Honestly my favorite ship from the kelvin timeline movies, probably because the third movie is the best of them, and this little engine that could played a big role in saving the day.
I love that they kind of mirrored our lead-up to the space shuttles as all the failed prototypes and back to the drawing board concepts until Columbia was finally a reality. Your Beta canon really does cover the bases of that struggle. Thank you again! I really enjoyed the background.
As always my friend, you are quite welcome. And yes, I try to approach all these videos from a logical and human standpoint... I feel it makes them more realistic and believable, and of course more fun :)
Neat video! Love these Beta Video's. I've always had a soft spot for that NX: Intrepid design. Would love to see a Beta on that ship and other "NX" type starships.
Bro the freedom class felt so slick and more modern comparable to that intrepid of TNG era and sleekness of it's design makes me wonder how good a TNG generation era of that class would be like
kind of want to compress the two eras designs[from the galaxy class ships], Get a ovoid galaxy saucer with the nacelles design off the freedom classes flared pylon and Nacelles. Either keep the full saucer or use the triangular cutout design of the old Freedom design.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done indeed and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed, And I myself like the Freedom class starship's and I own 2 of the model kits of it by Moebias and the Eaglemoss model and the Hallmark one and another one that came with the Blurey from Beyond as well,👌.
The NX Freedom class I honestly cringed at when I saw it in media promotions and remember even saying to my brother that I would actuelly prefer the Kelvin Constitution class than that. When I see it, it to me though expresses someone you dont like much, but when you are forced to spend time with them through no choice of your own you actually discover that the individual isnt that bad afterall, just misunderstood. The class can certainly withstand alot of punishment though, cant it? Between the regisry number and ship name that particular area around the saucer reminded me of the Discovery we saw in the first released trailer of it coming out of the asteroid before we got the other version and I liked the one we saw in the first trailer, so much better than the end result. The chunky nacelles as well still baffles me, but I am glad they were gotten rid of in place of what were put on the NX-01 in both universes, they remind me of a rub of toothpaste, thick at the front and then gets thiner the further back you go. You probably have already covered the reasoning behind this and I apologise if I seem ignorant but am I glad this wasnt a ship in a tv series but thats my own opinion. 6:07 I just have Akira class come to mind but without the torpedo launcher between the nacelles. 9:04 The giant green hand, I dont watch TOS that much but wasnt there an episode with a giant green hand in that or am i just totally remembering things differently? But a nice throw forward so to speak if i am correct, ha ha. I enjoyed it sir, and hope you are continuing to get better in yourself, take care out there
I love this episode…the Freedom Class is a fascinating design. However, I do have one quick question…was the fate of the USS Franklin the same in both timelines or did they suffer different fates altogether? Just curious.
based on when the divergence happened between the two universes, the USS Franklin should have gone on the same path in the prime timeline as it did in the Kelvin, as this happened long before the Kelvin was destroyed.
@@congaspy2058 Though you're most likely correct, that the Prime Franklin ended up at Altamid, there's also a theory in temporal mechanics that could be at play... That at the point of divergence, changes happen in a non-linear way. That because time isn't a constant when traveling through it, changes to the timeline travel in both direction, through the past and to the future... This is a hard concept to follow, but it does make sense in scientific way, and could make for an interesting story in the future :) Either way, aside from ending up on Altamid, the future outcome of the Franklin, IE meeting Kirk, Starbase Yorktown, Prime Starfleet's lack of Transwarp, means that the Franklins fate would be quite different in the Prime Timeline!
I believe the Franklin and her crew went through the same fate in the TOS timeline. The difference being, were they ever found? No doubt they were, just not by the Enterprise. The drones that ancient race built were tough as nails, and going up against a Starfleet that hadn't dealt with a ship like the Nerada would guarantee a win for them. But, Starfleet crews would be the same resourceful and determined bunch, even if the technology differed a bit. I have a thought. In another Truth or Myth video about the Joseph-designed Dreadnought(either the Dreadnought-specific one or the video covering all the Joseph designs) it was mentioned there was audio communication from Epsilon IX in ST:TMP with the USS Entente, one of the ships listed in the Technical Manual for the Dreadnought class. Leaves you to wonder, if there was a Starfleet Dreadnought within communication range of Epsilon IX, why wasn't it dispatched to intercept the V'Ger Cloud which had taken out three Klingon battlecruisers and threatened the communication station itself? Because they were busy dealing with Krall or had finished but left too damaged to take on the V'Ger Cloud. With the way the drones commanded by a former Starfleet officer handled an Enterprise more powerful than the original TOS Enterprise, then a TOS Dreadnought would definitely have a challenge. It's a thought. I honestly don't know if there is any lore on where the Gagarin Belt is in relation to the UFP-Klingon border. For all we know, the Station Yorktown might have been sitting a dozen light years from the Cardassians and didn't know it yet.
@@robertellison4889 No it isn't... Please keep in mind, though YOU might have a particular opinion on a starship or a class, that THAT opinion is merely yours and yours alone. So try and respect the basic fundamentals of the show you claim to cherish, IE Diversity and IDIC!
@@robertellison4889 No it isnt, that's merely your personal opinion with no factual basis at all. And as stated above try and respect the basic fundamentals of the show you claim to cherish, IE Diversity and IDIC! Which you're not doing here at all. EVERYONE is entitled to their personal opinion, but those personal opinions dont give you the right to try and bring someone elses down by making a statement of fact like "The bar is set so low though" when it's not a fact of any sort. Your opinion doesnt = fact so get over that. Do better and be better, learn from Star Trek! Because this negative, your opinion is the only right one attitude is NOT cherishing Trek from ANY Era at all! You should be ashamed! And Im not about to argue your nonsense or let you argue it with anyone else! Cya!
Great video. I really like this ship design, but think it’s design fits the TOS/TMP era. The hull design has a TMP look and has some similarities to the Miranda class when looking at it from the front. I could see it as a scout, or attack, ship during the TMP era. I could see the scout ship USS Columbia in the first movie being this class.
When I first saw this ship in a trailer, I thought this was the NX-01. Of course it's not. Still, it reminds me of the NX-01. The Freedom class is a cool little ship.
Would it be possible to see more videos like this on 22nd or 24th century starship classes such as the 22nd century Intrepid class or Poseidon class of the 22nd century and the 24th century Orleans class?
I was wondering any chance on the Yorktown class Starbase as Transwarp engines make transport and moving plus new Deep Space outpost to support it as a forward operating bases for the 5 year missions while also Starfleet aggressive expansion and support While overall a space colony unlike the Spacedocks but design to support and build new classes of Starships Overall Starfleet rapid responding thanks to the new drives gives these bases wide coverage
Honestly, I think this thing is a dumpy little boat, but I still enjoy hearing the stories regarding the various technologies used in these ships and their evolution through the years.
Yes but the disclaimer explains that because it was introduced in the Kelvin Timeline, it would be reasonable to assume that this video is in that timeline as well when it reaches the future of the class... And thus the disclaimer was made!
Yes but the ship is from before the kelvin time-line therefore making it prime universe as its even before the nx enterprise..... TIME TRAVEL HURTS MY HEAD!!
Right, but not everyone realizes or even knows that! There are MANY fans of Star Trek that have become fans since DSC's release... Again hence the disclaimer! I thought this through my friend, Ive got this, and did this to make sense to everyone!
"Since my first day on the job as a Starfleet captain I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these godforsaken paradoxes - the future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache. The question isn't where we are - it's *when* we are" - Janeway. Lol
I still can't figure out what was going on in the movie with this ship. They were using music to disrupt/confuse the robots. Did that make them explode or did this ship have way more firepower then the Enterprise? I had asked this question on another video only got a responsefrom person who didn't understand the question.
Well Kralls ships operated with an advanced computer system which connect all the little vessels together. This allowed them to operate like a swarm, so close to each other, that the sensors on board the Enterprise weren't even able to tell that it was hundreds of ships, rather thinking it was just one large starship. What Kirk and crew did, was use music to jam the computer signal that connected all the ships together and allowed them to operate in tandem. And so then, without Computer Control, the ships were so close to each other, that losing the Computer caused them all to crash in to each other... Hence the explosions!
One issue here: it would not be 'USS Freedom', the USS prefix didn't begin until the founding of the UFP. Ships became SS under the coalition, but the ship on launch pre-Enterprise would just be the 'Freedom'. After the Federation was founded ships still in service then would have received the appropriate prefix and registry numbers.
My issues with the NX Freedom is, well first the NX part of the name (never understood why Enterprise was even called the NX class, kinda lazy if you ask me) but then there's the registry. It's the NX-326. With Enterprise being the NX-01. Then there's the whole U.S.S. Freedom when U.S.S. only came into play after the founding of the Federation and even at that point Enterprise became the S.S. Enterprise.
Ahhhhh but you're thinking inside the box... :P First, this channel has a LOT of New Star Trek fans, that dont know or understand the Kelvin, Prime Mirror, etc Universes. So making it clear for them makes sense. And second, theres a theory in Quantum Mechanics that says once you create a divergent universe, the changes to the timeline head both ways in time, meaning forward and backward! Though the truth is, I made the distinction for the first point :P
so as far as i am aware the kelvin films are now treated as a separate universe with its own divergent history pre old spocks arrival so this class may not be canon in the prime continuity though just to be safe we should probably just think of it as canon until someone directly says otherwise since its canonicity doesn't actually change anything major
Actually you are incorrect... The movies themselves make clear the point of divergence is Kirks Birth, thus anything BEFORE Kirks birth is the same as in the Prime Universe, and since this Class Pre-dates the point of Divergence, it is in fact, Prime Canon! Also, just a question but, why did you like your own comment?
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics but star trek discovery season 3 directly refers to the kelvin timeline as a different universe when they briefly refer to it so i guess thats where the confusion comes from and as for why i liked my own comment its so you and others would see it. comments with more likes appear first in the comments section and thus get more attention. thanks for replying by the way!
Yes, We know an entirely new universe was created from the point of Divergence, that means that if you were to go back before the point Nero came through everything would be the EXACT same as in the Prime Universe during that very time, only it's the Kelvin Universe... Confusing I know, but that's how divergence works... Also, you don't have to falsely inflate your comments on this channel... I read EVERY single comment, and then try to respond to as many as I can... I love to interact with the community, it's why I started the channel... So just feel free to comment and rest assured Ill see it :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics see this is whjy i hate people who use time travel as a tope to make plots work. it just makes everything way more confusing like how in into darkness we see a model of the NX-01 but that ship only exists because of the events of first contact so that means despite the massive changes in events and tech of the kelvin universe the borg still go back in time to assimilate humanity and picard also goes back in time to stop them leading to the exact same alteration in the timeline as the prime universe and then there is the kelvin films saying that a large chunk of Romulan space was destroyed by the hobus supernova and that would have destroyed even more star systems if it hadnt been stopped but in star trek picard its implied that only Romulus was destroyed and the star that went supernova was never named. for most people inconsistencies dont mean anything but they annoy the hell out of me and they are all a result of using time travel as a plot device.
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I don't think Nero came back in the prime universe at all. I do believe he came back to alternate universe. Because Kirk's brother isn't there.
Also, how do you think it is that the NX freedom class served for 40 years while the NX Enterprise would serve for only ten years before being mothballed?
Is the freedom class not actually a prime universe ship because the Kelvin universe started to exist when the events of star trek 2009 started. So everything that happened before should be prime universe. But I could be wrong.
Yes but the disclaimer explains that because it was introduced in the Kelvin Timeline Movies, it would be reasonable for newer Trek fans to assume that this video is in that timeline as well when it reaches the future of the class... And thus the disclaimer was made!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I have a video idea: maybe you could make a series that covers the different technologies that you can see in star trek: for example a video that is only about the history of the transporter or the shield emitters.
A curve is not invented, it merely exists... And since each warp factor barrier required a new engine system and new breakthrough of discovery, it would be silly to think that Earth Scientists would know such things before invention... Even by the 24th century they were still learning about warp, how it worked etc... Hence rewriting the warp scale...
Even tho this ship class looks a bit weird It could maybe be humanities first exploration starship because of its smaller size and scientific research abilities ✔️
Well it cant, as we know from Canon that Starfleet's first TRUE exploration starship was the NX 01! Though im sure this class completed a LOT of it's own exploration missions!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I figured tge Franklin was a warp 3-4 pasenger ship used to travel between Earth and vulcan, Denubula apropriated for war use.
i never really like the story of the NX freedom just doesn't fit like the first warp 3 ship would more then likely been the warp-delta class warp 4 intrepid then warp 5 NX class though not cannon makes more sense then the freedom class
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I knew little about the Freedom Class and it's history when I saw it in Star Trek Beyond. Now, I know a bit more based in Beta Canon. Thanks TS.
On the plaque is say that this class starship is a Kelvin Class starship not the The Freedom Class starship and the the starship is a Kelvin Class Starship.
No it doesnt... Im sorry but you are incorrect! Please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Franklin_dedication_plaque to better understand what you're talking about! All it says is starship class a call back to the plaque of the Original Constitution Class Enterprise that said the same thing! Its the Freedom Class memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Freedom_class_(22nd_century) There is no Kelvin Class, merely the USS Kelvin of the Einstein Class that started the whole timeline...
I didnt mean to put Excelsior in there lol Im writing a script right now and Im talking in it about the Excelsior LOL Anyhow, Im not bothered by a lack of Deflector as Trek canon has showed us for almost 40 years that its indeed possible to have ships with out them!
The Class seems to be logical, but I'm not sure that the Vulcans would have let Starfleet build it. OTOH, Enterprise, as much as I liked the series, FAILED to explain WHY the Vulcans held Earth back for a Century. Yes, it was briefly touched on in Season 4, but the creators missed a golden opportunity presented in Voyager for a better explanation. In Voyager, Humanity launched Freedom One as an unmanned Warp capable Deep Space probe. As an unmanned probe, Earth may have equipped Freedom One with a Warp Drive that would have produced lethal amounts of radiation for a crew. The Vulcans may have felt that Humanity was pushing too fast after First Contact and wasn't prepared to handle long range interstellar space travel. Flash forward to Enterprise. According to Voyager, Earth had contact with Freedom One for decades at least. Given the Warp 5 engine, why couldn't Enterprise have been sent to follow Freedom One and establish First Contact with Species encountered?
I think you've misunderstood a bit about Enterprise and the Vulcans... The Vulcans at no time actually held back, or prevented Earth from doing anything. Some humans felt that they did because they refused to share their technology with humanity. Also the Vulcans, logical and cautious by nature, tended to give recommendations based on that philosophy, again viewed by some as holding humanity back... What I'm saying is that Vulcan holding humanity back was a feeling, rather then a physical fact! Also, you have Friendship One a little muddled as well... Its warp drive was not lethal at all, anymore then any warp drive is lethal I suppose... The problem there was that the probe contain the information to create an anti-matter reactor that caused their self-destruction. The scientist in the episode says that a containment failure in their antimatter power grid destroyed their planet. But until the Friendship One probe arrived, the natives had never conceived of antimatter. So to extend that to "Earth may have equipped Freedom One with a Warp Drive that would have produced lethal amounts of radiation for a crew" is a far stretch with no logical basis being that we saw Cochrane himself use an almost identical warp drive for his first warp flight and had no ill effects what so ever.... We dont know what course Friendship one traveled on, for all we do know, the original course chosen for Enterprise May have been close to that of Friendship one... Or perhaps in those decades, Friendship One found nothing of Interest being that Decades at warp 1 equals = only 10 Ly's per decade and Space is large, with not every system passed being inhabited... Finally, this starship class was built BEFORE First Contact, thus the Vulcans allowing anything doesnt play a factor, since humanity knew nothing of the Vulcans when they began to build this ship...
If you watch this video, the Intrepid couldn't handle a Warp 4 engine due to the Delta radiation. An unmanned probe wouldn't have the same issue. That's why I'm saying the Freedom One was problematic. The Vulcans may have felt that Humanity needed to work out the bugs in their Warp Drive and given negative interactions with other species may have been reluctant to share technology.
(First you do realize I dont need to watch the video as I wrote and made it right?) But you're incorrect about the Intrepid... It couldnt handle the Delta Radiation emitted from the Nacelles due to the proximity of the Nacelles to the actual hull... This problem was solved by simply moving the nacelles away from the ship... And the Vulcans philosophy of not giving tech to humanity is the basis for the Federations Prime Directive...
You should write ST books. Great video as usual!
Maybe one day! ;) Thanks Bill :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Una McCormack started our as a fanfiction writer!!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics - I wholeheartedly agree!
I do agree!
Hell the shows 2.
ME in the Theater: " That is a Loknar class Frigate!!
Everyone around me: ????????
Me showing my age lol.
omfg I never reailzed im so stupid
Love to see more of the NX ere ships. Maybe even ones of your own design.
More are coming :)
Honestly my favorite ship from the kelvin timeline movies, probably because the third movie is the best of them, and this little engine that could played a big role in saving the day.
I love that they kind of mirrored our lead-up to the space shuttles as all the failed prototypes and back to the drawing board concepts until Columbia was finally a reality. Your Beta canon really does cover the bases of that struggle. Thank you again! I really enjoyed the background.
As always my friend, you are quite welcome. And yes, I try to approach all these videos from a logical and human standpoint... I feel it makes them more realistic and believable, and of course more fun :)
just recently re-watch star trek: beyond and thinking about this Freedom class and somehow this video pop out right away.
Im watching you.... ;) :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComicsare you.....Q.
Loved seeing it in action in Star Trek Beyond.
"2 of the team's junior memebers", AKA a couple of red shirt- err red lined shirts...
LOL you got it ;)
thank you very much for nice BETA- The NX Freedom Class Video
It's my pleasure :)
Neat video! Love these Beta Video's.
I've always had a soft spot for that NX: Intrepid design. Would love to see a Beta on that ship and other "NX" type starships.
Coming soon Actually! Just be patient :)
I have this Eaglemoss model and love it
I dont have it yet :(
Well done! You made that fit in perfectly.
Thank you Michael!
This video is full of FREEEDOM!!
Thank you for the awesome video on the Freedom class what a true pionner craft keep up the great work =)
My pleasure James :)
I love it.
Love these episodes. The stories you create for these movies are always excellent! Truth! ;)
Glad you like them! Thank you so much for all the support you've given me :)
Wonderful!
Many thanks! :)
"...a giant green hand." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro the freedom class felt so slick and more modern comparable to that intrepid of TNG era and sleekness of it's design makes me wonder how good a TNG generation era of that class would be like
kind of want to compress the two eras designs[from the galaxy class ships], Get a ovoid galaxy saucer with the nacelles design off the freedom classes flared pylon and Nacelles. Either keep the full saucer or use the triangular cutout design of the old Freedom design.
One of my favorite designs.
Love this ship.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done indeed and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed, And I myself like the Freedom class starship's and I own 2 of the model kits of it by Moebias and the Eaglemoss model and the Hallmark one and another one that came with the Blurey from Beyond as well,👌.
The NX Freedom class I honestly cringed at when I saw it in media promotions and remember even saying to my brother that I would actuelly prefer the Kelvin Constitution class than that.
When I see it, it to me though expresses someone you dont like much, but when you are forced to spend time with them through no choice of your own you actually discover that the individual isnt that bad afterall, just misunderstood.
The class can certainly withstand alot of punishment though, cant it?
Between the regisry number and ship name that particular area around the saucer reminded me of the Discovery we saw in the first released trailer of it coming out of the asteroid before we got the other version and I liked the one we saw in the first trailer, so much better than the end result.
The chunky nacelles as well still baffles me, but I am glad they were gotten rid of in place of what were put on the NX-01 in both universes, they remind me of a rub of toothpaste, thick at the front and then gets thiner the further back you go. You probably have already covered the reasoning behind this and I apologise if I seem ignorant but am I glad this wasnt a ship in a tv series but thats my own opinion.
6:07 I just have Akira class come to mind but without the torpedo launcher between the nacelles.
9:04 The giant green hand, I dont watch TOS that much but wasnt there an episode with a giant green hand in that or am i just totally remembering things differently? But a nice throw forward so to speak if i am correct, ha ha.
I enjoyed it sir, and hope you are continuing to get better in yourself, take care out there
I love the ship but I agree that it would need more work and changes if it were to become a series ship
Did you say, 2147? Well then, Im looking forward to seeing the USS Freedom in less than 30 years from now.
Uhmmm Carlos, I dont know what century you're living in, But here we're in 2021... So thats about 130 years away :P
Love the new lore, I bet the Excelsior NX-2000 lived through the events of Star Trek Beyond instead of the Kelven Kirk.
Another great class! Good job
8:32 - Press "triangle" for the "heroes" that were, instead of the monsters that are.
Can you do the Niagara class ship next ? I love three nacelle ships.
I love this episode…the Freedom Class is a fascinating design. However, I do have one quick question…was the fate of the USS Franklin the same in both timelines or did they suffer different fates altogether? Just curious.
based on when the divergence happened between the two universes, the USS Franklin should have gone on the same path in the prime timeline as it did in the Kelvin, as this happened long before the Kelvin was destroyed.
@@congaspy2058 Though you're most likely correct, that the Prime Franklin ended up at Altamid, there's also a theory in temporal mechanics that could be at play... That at the point of divergence, changes happen in a non-linear way. That because time isn't a constant when traveling through it, changes to the timeline travel in both direction, through the past and to the future... This is a hard concept to follow, but it does make sense in scientific way, and could make for an interesting story in the future :) Either way, aside from ending up on Altamid, the future outcome of the Franklin, IE meeting Kirk, Starbase Yorktown, Prime Starfleet's lack of Transwarp, means that the Franklins fate would be quite different in the Prime Timeline!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics what is the kelvin timeline using transwarp?
@@masstv9052 Yes, they are!
I believe the Franklin and her crew went through the same fate in the TOS timeline. The difference being, were they ever found? No doubt they were, just not by the Enterprise. The drones that ancient race built were tough as nails, and going up against a Starfleet that hadn't dealt with a ship like the Nerada would guarantee a win for them. But, Starfleet crews would be the same resourceful and determined bunch, even if the technology differed a bit.
I have a thought. In another Truth or Myth video about the Joseph-designed Dreadnought(either the Dreadnought-specific one or the video covering all the Joseph designs) it was mentioned there was audio communication from Epsilon IX in ST:TMP with the USS Entente, one of the ships listed in the Technical Manual for the Dreadnought class.
Leaves you to wonder, if there was a Starfleet Dreadnought within communication range of Epsilon IX, why wasn't it dispatched to intercept the V'Ger Cloud which had taken out three Klingon battlecruisers and threatened the communication station itself?
Because they were busy dealing with Krall or had finished but left too damaged to take on the V'Ger Cloud. With the way the drones commanded by a former Starfleet officer handled an Enterprise more powerful than the original TOS Enterprise, then a TOS Dreadnought would definitely have a challenge.
It's a thought. I honestly don't know if there is any lore on where the Gagarin Belt is in relation to the UFP-Klingon border. For all we know, the Station Yorktown might have been sitting a dozen light years from the Cardassians and didn't know it yet.
The Freedom class is my favorite ship design of the Modern Star Trek Films.
@@robertellison4889 No it isn't... Please keep in mind, though YOU might have a particular opinion on a starship or a class, that THAT opinion is merely yours and yours alone. So try and respect the basic fundamentals of the show you claim to cherish, IE Diversity and IDIC!
@@robertellison4889 No it isnt, that's merely your personal opinion with no factual basis at all. And as stated above try and respect the basic fundamentals of the show you claim to cherish, IE Diversity and IDIC! Which you're not doing here at all. EVERYONE is entitled to their personal opinion, but those personal opinions dont give you the right to try and bring someone elses down by making a statement of fact like "The bar is set so low though" when it's not a fact of any sort. Your opinion doesnt = fact so get over that. Do better and be better, learn from Star Trek! Because this negative, your opinion is the only right one attitude is NOT cherishing Trek from ANY Era at all! You should be ashamed! And Im not about to argue your nonsense or let you argue it with anyone else! Cya!
I smell deleted comments here…
@@CASA-dy4vsCant speak for the original poster of the comment they've now apparently deleted, sorry!
Great video. I really like this ship design, but think it’s design fits the TOS/TMP era. The hull design has a TMP look and has some similarities to the Miranda class when looking at it from the front. I could see it as a scout, or attack, ship during the TMP era. I could see the scout ship USS Columbia in the first movie being this class.
When I first saw this ship in a trailer, I thought this was the NX-01. Of course it's not. Still, it reminds me of the NX-01. The Freedom class is a cool little ship.
Interesting
Thanks
Would it be possible to see more videos like this on 22nd or 24th century starship classes such as the 22nd century Intrepid class or Poseidon class of the 22nd century and the 24th century Orleans class?
I was wondering any chance on the Yorktown class Starbase as Transwarp engines make transport and moving plus new Deep Space outpost to support it as a forward operating bases for the 5 year missions while also Starfleet aggressive expansion and support
While overall a space colony unlike the Spacedocks but design to support and build new classes of Starships
Overall Starfleet rapid responding thanks to the new drives gives these bases wide coverage
Was the attempt to have the "open design" in your story and result in any way influenced by the push towards open design in businesses in current day?
Actually it was, great catch :)
Honestly, I think this thing is a dumpy little boat, but I still enjoy hearing the stories regarding the various technologies used in these ships and their evolution through the years.
nice seeing the pre federation ships! are you also going to do the Warpdelta?
Eventually, thats the plan, though I have to wait for a model to be available for it :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics nice too hear, will be looking forward too your future video's!
This ship is pre kelvin time-line, before the split, so is prime universe anyway
Yes but the disclaimer explains that because it was introduced in the Kelvin Timeline, it would be reasonable to assume that this video is in that timeline as well when it reaches the future of the class... And thus the disclaimer was made!
Yes but the ship is from before the kelvin time-line therefore making it prime universe as its even before the nx enterprise.....
TIME TRAVEL HURTS MY HEAD!!
Right, but not everyone realizes or even knows that! There are MANY fans of Star Trek that have become fans since DSC's release... Again hence the disclaimer! I thought this through my friend, Ive got this, and did this to make sense to everyone!
"Since my first day on the job as a Starfleet captain I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these godforsaken paradoxes - the future is the past, the past is the future, it all gives me a headache. The question isn't where we are - it's *when* we are" - Janeway. Lol
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:)
Too bad he couldn't use Sabotage as quiet background music when the ship charged the swarm. : )
In the other case. It should be considered as inspired speculation and not connected to the main constant of the original prime Star Trek universe.
I still can't figure out what was going on in the movie with this ship. They were using music to disrupt/confuse the robots. Did that make them explode or did this ship have way more firepower then the Enterprise? I had asked this question on another video only got a responsefrom person who didn't understand the question.
Well Kralls ships operated with an advanced computer system which connect all the little vessels together. This allowed them to operate like a swarm, so close to each other, that the sensors on board the Enterprise weren't even able to tell that it was hundreds of ships, rather thinking it was just one large starship.
What Kirk and crew did, was use music to jam the computer signal that connected all the ships together and allowed them to operate in tandem. And so then, without Computer Control, the ships were so close to each other, that losing the Computer caused them all to crash in to each other... Hence the explosions!
One issue here: it would not be 'USS Freedom', the USS prefix didn't begin until the founding of the UFP. Ships became SS under the coalition, but the ship on launch pre-Enterprise would just be the 'Freedom'. After the Federation was founded ships still in service then would have received the appropriate prefix and registry numbers.
All footage of the ship with in this video, was taken AFTER the forming of the Federation, therefore, no problem at all ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Using the retroactive technicality escape clause, eh? XD
Im smart like that ;) :P
So does the freedom class cone before nx01 enterprise?
Yes
My issues with the NX Freedom is, well first the NX part of the name (never understood why Enterprise was even called the NX class, kinda lazy if you ask me) but then there's the registry. It's the NX-326. With Enterprise being the NX-01. Then there's the whole U.S.S. Freedom when U.S.S. only came into play after the founding of the Federation and even at that point Enterprise became the S.S. Enterprise.
The Franklin ended up playing a pivitol role in the Kelvin timeline if memory serves 🤔
Yes it did, but of course, this is about the Prime Timeline Freedom Class only ;)
You know since it is from before the divergence. It should be the same in both prime and kelvin timelines.
Ahhhhh but you're thinking inside the box... :P First, this channel has a LOT of New Star Trek fans, that dont know or understand the Kelvin, Prime Mirror, etc Universes. So making it clear for them makes sense. And second, theres a theory in Quantum Mechanics that says once you create a divergent universe, the changes to the timeline head both ways in time, meaning forward and backward! Though the truth is, I made the distinction for the first point :P
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so as far as i am aware the kelvin films are now treated as a separate universe with its own divergent history pre old spocks arrival so this class may not be canon in the prime continuity though just to be safe we should probably just think of it as canon until someone directly says otherwise since its canonicity doesn't actually change anything major
Actually you are incorrect... The movies themselves make clear the point of divergence is Kirks Birth, thus anything BEFORE Kirks birth is the same as in the Prime Universe, and since this Class Pre-dates the point of Divergence, it is in fact, Prime Canon!
Also, just a question but, why did you like your own comment?
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics but star trek discovery season 3 directly refers to the kelvin timeline as a different universe when they briefly refer to it so i guess thats where the confusion comes from and as for why i liked my own comment its so you and others would see it. comments with more likes appear first in the comments section and thus get more attention. thanks for replying by the way!
Yes, We know an entirely new universe was created from the point of Divergence, that means that if you were to go back before the point Nero came through everything would be the EXACT same as in the Prime Universe during that very time, only it's the Kelvin Universe... Confusing I know, but that's how divergence works... Also, you don't have to falsely inflate your comments on this channel... I read EVERY single comment, and then try to respond to as many as I can... I love to interact with the community, it's why I started the channel... So just feel free to comment and rest assured Ill see it :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics see this is whjy i hate people who use time travel as a tope to make plots work. it just makes everything way more confusing like how in into darkness we see a model of the NX-01 but that ship only exists because of the events of first contact so that means despite the massive changes in events and tech of the kelvin universe the borg still go back in time to assimilate humanity and picard also goes back in time to stop them leading to the exact same alteration in the timeline as the prime universe and then there is the kelvin films saying that a large chunk of Romulan space was destroyed by the hobus supernova and that would have destroyed even more star systems if it hadnt been stopped but in star trek picard its implied that only Romulus was destroyed and the star that went supernova was never named. for most people inconsistencies dont mean anything but they annoy the hell out of me and they are all a result of using time travel as a plot device.
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I don't think Nero came back in the prime universe at all. I do believe he came back to alternate universe. Because Kirk's brother isn't there.
Stellaris Mod Star Trek Horizons uses this as first science ship for the federation
Also, how do you think it is that the NX freedom class served for 40 years while the NX Enterprise would serve for only ten years before being mothballed?
Is the freedom class not actually a prime universe ship because the Kelvin universe started to exist when the events of star trek 2009 started. So everything that happened before should be prime universe.
But I could be wrong.
Yes but the disclaimer explains that because it was introduced in the Kelvin Timeline Movies, it would be reasonable for newer Trek fans to assume that this video is in that timeline as well when it reaches the future of the class... And thus the disclaimer was made!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics OK I think I misunderstood the disclaimer then. English is not my native language.
Nice video BTW.
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I have a video idea: maybe you could make a series that covers the different technologies that you can see in star trek: for example a video that is only about the history of the transporter or the shield emitters.
Bad movie, but this version of the ship is better. Less steampunk.
Warp 4 isn't twice as fast as warp 2, it's 8 times as fast, why would they think it only require twice the power? That sounds odd.
Because power curves here on Earth when increasing speeds is usually a constant curve... In the case of Warp Factors it is not!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Yes, and you'd think the earth scientists would know that, they invented the curve.
A curve is not invented, it merely exists... And since each warp factor barrier required a new engine system and new breakthrough of discovery, it would be silly to think that Earth Scientists would know such things before invention... Even by the 24th century they were still learning about warp, how it worked etc... Hence rewriting the warp scale...
Odd that the NX-326 would come before the NX-01.......
It would be re-christened later on to that Registry after its refit! See Star Trek Beyond
Freedom class served in the early federation by then it lost the NX moniker
Im not exactly sure what this comment is about or trying to say...
Even tho this ship class looks a bit weird It could maybe be humanities first exploration starship because of its smaller size and scientific research abilities ✔️
Well it cant, as we know from Canon that Starfleet's first TRUE exploration starship was the NX 01! Though im sure this class completed a LOT of it's own exploration missions!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I meant by that, that if Humanity will build someday starships for exploration that could be a design idea 😅
Ahhh you're talking reality, I dont deal in reality, I deal in fantasy ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics 😅 Everyone has their own reality :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I figured tge Franklin was a warp 3-4 pasenger ship used to travel between Earth and vulcan, Denubula apropriated for war use.
i never really like the story of the NX freedom just doesn't fit like the first warp 3 ship would more then likely been the warp-delta class warp 4 intrepid then warp 5 NX class though not cannon makes more sense then the freedom class
I have no problem what so ever with where this starship fits in canon wise!
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Grats!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I knew little about the Freedom Class and it's history when I saw it in Star Trek Beyond. Now, I know a bit more based in Beta Canon. Thanks TS.
On the plaque is say that this class starship is a Kelvin Class starship not the The Freedom Class starship and the the starship is a Kelvin Class Starship.
No it doesnt... Im sorry but you are incorrect! Please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Franklin_dedication_plaque to better understand what you're talking about! All it says is starship class a call back to the plaque of the Original Constitution Class Enterprise that said the same thing! Its the Freedom Class memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Freedom_class_(22nd_century) There is no Kelvin Class, merely the USS Kelvin of the Einstein Class that started the whole timeline...
Am I blind or does this class not have a deflector dish?
It does not, it joins the ranks of the Miranda, Centaur, Oberth etc that have Deflector Emitters built in to their Hulls!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics excelsior has a dish, but Starfleet ships without deflectors always bothered me.
I didnt mean to put Excelsior in there lol Im writing a script right now and Im talking in it about the Excelsior LOL Anyhow, Im not bothered by a lack of Deflector as Trek canon has showed us for almost 40 years that its indeed possible to have ships with out them!
3:15 This is why I don't like the Magee Class
The Class seems to be logical, but I'm not sure that the Vulcans would have let Starfleet build it.
OTOH, Enterprise, as much as I liked the series, FAILED to explain WHY the Vulcans held Earth back for a Century. Yes, it was briefly touched on in Season 4, but the creators missed a golden opportunity presented in Voyager for a better explanation. In Voyager, Humanity launched Freedom One as an unmanned Warp capable Deep Space probe. As an unmanned probe, Earth may have equipped Freedom One with a Warp Drive that would have produced lethal amounts of radiation for a crew. The Vulcans may have felt that Humanity was pushing too fast after First Contact and wasn't prepared to handle long range interstellar space travel.
Flash forward to Enterprise. According to Voyager, Earth had contact with Freedom One for decades at least. Given the Warp 5 engine, why couldn't Enterprise have been sent to follow Freedom One and establish First Contact with Species encountered?
I think you've misunderstood a bit about Enterprise and the Vulcans... The Vulcans at no time actually held back, or prevented Earth from doing anything. Some humans felt that they did because they refused to share their technology with humanity. Also the Vulcans, logical and cautious by nature, tended to give recommendations based on that philosophy, again viewed by some as holding humanity back... What I'm saying is that Vulcan holding humanity back was a feeling, rather then a physical fact!
Also, you have Friendship One a little muddled as well... Its warp drive was not lethal at all, anymore then any warp drive is lethal I suppose... The problem there was that the probe contain the information to create an anti-matter reactor that caused their self-destruction. The scientist in the episode says that a containment failure in their antimatter power grid destroyed their planet. But until the Friendship One probe arrived, the natives had never conceived of antimatter. So to extend that to "Earth may have equipped Freedom One with a Warp Drive that would have produced lethal amounts of radiation for a crew" is a far stretch with no logical basis being that we saw Cochrane himself use an almost identical warp drive for his first warp flight and had no ill effects what so ever....
We dont know what course Friendship one traveled on, for all we do know, the original course chosen for Enterprise May have been close to that of Friendship one... Or perhaps in those decades, Friendship One found nothing of Interest being that Decades at warp 1 equals = only 10 Ly's per decade and Space is large, with not every system passed being inhabited...
Finally, this starship class was built BEFORE First Contact, thus the Vulcans allowing anything doesnt play a factor, since humanity knew nothing of the Vulcans when they began to build this ship...
If you watch this video, the Intrepid couldn't handle a Warp 4 engine due to the Delta radiation. An unmanned probe wouldn't have the same issue. That's why I'm saying the Freedom One was problematic. The Vulcans may have felt that Humanity needed to work out the bugs in their Warp Drive and given negative interactions with other species may have been reluctant to share technology.
(First you do realize I dont need to watch the video as I wrote and made it right?) But you're incorrect about the Intrepid... It couldnt handle the Delta Radiation emitted from the Nacelles due to the proximity of the Nacelles to the actual hull... This problem was solved by simply moving the nacelles away from the ship... And the Vulcans philosophy of not giving tech to humanity is the basis for the Federations Prime Directive...
The freedom class is the ugliest design in trek history.