To everyone who says should of had a helmet on here’s my opinion a helmet could have been used to save some scratches to the face but for those who been watching e-bike guy should also know not only did his best friend died with a helmet but also Angelo aka evil Knievel died wearing proper gear n a helmet if god is going to take you he will they say seat belt save life’s but in my accident if I was wearing one it would of killed me the meaning behind all of this no one knows when it’s ur time but enjoy the time you do have … helmets and proper gear is always good to have but does not mean it will always save you 💯 …. My friend broRider did suffer a black eye nothing broken other then his feelings that he could not complete the race 💯
Yah did not take Angelo. The person who turns in front of Angelo took his life. So, Yah took 10 million Congolese lives, or did an evil man named Leopold kill them?
Yeah, it doesn't mean it will always safe you but it can GREATLY REDUCE THE RISK of injury. A full face helmet would've 100% prevented him from having lacerations, maybe even no concussion and he could've just walked it off. I'm telling you, it's better to wear a helmet, stop being negligent.
The car did take his life but that helmet cracked causing his head to go into the helmet 😢but this is a sore subject so not responding no more about my brother Rip 😢
I think the race would have been closer if the Icon had a more knobby tire setup for dirt. But the fact that the Icon can compete with a $13k dedicated e-dirt bike is a testament to true diy capabilities!
I feel like the Tommebike would have still won if the rider had practice on the dirt, the distance and throttle control for take off at the line. Because even on mode 1 you can flip it instantly from 0 mph. I witnessed this personally with my Tommebike. My brother in law treated it like it was a motorcycle and it stood straight up. Plus those tires on the Stark kicks up hella dirt.
Bad accident today but that’s part of the game that bike life embedded in my dna Rip vandy and Rip Angelo I think about yall everytime I’m on a bike one thing about it two things for show ain’t nothing gone stop me from being bikelife trust me it ain’t over yet that’s a promise them bikes gone either kill me or make me and if I die on a bike at least I went doing my passion Riding thanks to everybody that checked on me and was worried bout me 💯❣️ #RipAngelo #RipVandy the real rough riders 💪🏾❤️
man i always wear goggles or glasses when i ride even a fly or rock going 80mph to the eyeball hurts bad not to mention the constant eye infections. dam he hit that floor crazy man hope he good.
No body should ride that power of Ebike unless you have experience riding them this definitely different than riding a dirt bike. Be safe. You don’t want to be saying what you should have did. Bless up⚡️⚡️⚡️
Oh man sorry that happened to him bro looked like a nasty fall. Good thing he wasn't going too fast towards the end but damn yea dirt roads scare the shit out me even with dual sports. Ride safe Tommy 🙌🏻⚡
Helmets are what test pilots call "brain Buckets" because if you get into an accident moving faster then 20mph the helmet is there to make clean up easier.
You are right about risks, CANNOT eliminate all risks. Always a judgement call on what protection you want and what risk you are willing to take. Glad to see you doing all this testing and building. You have to balance all risk and remember it's easy for people to criticize who aren't doing anything!
1. You must switch to at least brand new snow tire for traction. Those tires were basically bald compared to the terrain you were on. 2. I don't care if you live in Florida. You and your family must wear safety gear. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. FLIP FLOPS at 80mph. Not safe at all. 3. I love your channel please keep up the awesome innovation 4.I had an aluminum full suspension frame. I switched over to the Vector Typhoon frame. It's a full suspension steel frame. Yes I know you reinforce your frames but you need suspension flex. I seen going 80mph with 160mm rotors you need 220mm or 246mm for high speed runs. There are no real dirt bike tires for fat tire bikes. Going 60+ to over 100mph on a hardtail is insane. Full suspension is the wsy to go. With the right set up , it can make a difference on your bikes handling and stability. Much Love Peace my Brother.
FLIP FLOPS ARE THE CHOSEN FOOTWEAR OF WELL, SOMEONE ON THE BEACH. REINFORCE FRAMES THAT REINFORCING DOES FUCK ALL JUST LIKE TAPING LOLLYPOP STICKS TO THE FRAME AND THE WELDING, FFS/WTF, WELL THAT'S ANOTHER MATTER ENTIRELY
He crashed because the bike was fast and the front got light and squirrelly on the sand dirt but please invest in the best helmet you can afford because when you crash you can use that helmet to cushion the fall. Amassing traction
What’s up EbikeGuy this just dawned on me and hopefully people in the comment section can chime in but with your speaking voice you sound exactly like *SAMUEL JACKSON?* Have you ever been told that? Lol. Love the raw content as well…on e bikes.
To all the people with negative comments I was the one riding yall can’t bash e-bike guy for nothing I choose to race with no helmet and if yall no anything this is part of the game I run through the finish line I never stop I just got dusted and couldn’t see so I couldn’t tell where I was going but just know I’m okay and will still be running the Tommybike icon whenever we have a race I’m still gone ride you can’t take bikelife out me I’m gone ride till I’m paralyzed or can’t ride no more preciate e-bike for letting me run the bike and good job to the stark varg
@@vesc007you trippin fool I’ll beat the shit out of you on my son the batterys he build is better then any shit you got matter fact do you have a e-bike
Lmno , that bike of yours is not for dirt its only for tarmac ,sure you can cruise slowly on dirt but without rear suspension you asking for trouble 😊 ,luckily it was a very minor crash. 🙏
Repeat after me: A hub motor is not good for off road. Mid drives rule off road! I knew from the beginning that the Stark was in a different class. No hub motor home built can do that.Of course that Stark costs 20 times what your home built cost.
@@LarryRichelli why would anyone chop a frame and attempt to weld it back together, i showed my welder pal the video of the bike after the crash he asked me to stop as the frame showing the dent to downtube then spat coffee all over my carpet after he nearly choked on his drink due to laughing so much at Tommys welding skills, which FYi are none existant
@@LarryRichelli I know, it's where you want to stop the spending, Tommy must have invested over £2500.00 on this death trap and you can buy off the shelf an admitjet for $3000.00 that is designed to stop go and not snap, lol
Dirt was in his eyes he try to pull over and slow down hit a bump and crash has nothing to do with a stabilizer if anything it help him miss the tree when he did have a sec to react
17:10 imagine if that was the road and he fell face first to the ground. If y’all race in the road y’all definitely better wear a helmet, bro I mean y’all can do whatever y’all wanna do, but once you face implant into that concrete and your face open you can’t reverse time.
Bad idea from the get go...the Tommy bike's tires are never going to bite that terrain, only at low speeds. I think the Tommy Bike wins without racing anyways cause it's much less expensive and its top speed kills the Stark. Set up Both Bikes with the same tires then race again. Hope that Young man is alright...that was a nasty head plant.
It depends on the tires. If you have knobby tires, dirt is way better. You also walk away with less injuries if you do crash. If he slapped the asphalt the same way, he would be getting new teeth. Definitely get a helmet on for fast runs.
Bro you are a icon I love your videos and I love the honesty but I would take this video down unless you making some major safety changes on your channel. That was very hard to watch just being honest.
My thoughts exactly. This is crazy thinking that buying a metal bike frame and throwing the largest hub motor you can on it can compete with such a beautifully engineered machine like the Stark Varg is a joke.
Well you did not have to upload this incident of crashing and creating controversy. Your putting a driver that was not knowledgeable enough to be running such a high powered bike. He may have driven your bike a few times but doesn't have the experience. The guy on the Stark Varg was knowledgeable enough to know to wear a helmet at high speeds, just common sense and he did not crash because his bike had knobby tires for the dirt. We all know this bike can and has gone 103 mph GPS which is impressive but highly dangerous on a bicycle frame. Your the one that knows this bike inside out but your too heavy to get the maximum speed that this bike can deliver. A person should always learn from there mistakes but being cocky shows that they learned nothing especially when they don't get away with it..
In all honesty, y’all race on the road all the time maybe that dude didn’t have enough experience to be riding that bike. If we be honest I don’t see y’all race on this road a lot of times so you can’t really blame the elements.
Good job he had a helmet on "NOT" Tommy you are playing with gullible peoples lives allowing them to ride your super fast bikes on dusty loose trails without adequate tyres or bodily protection, i see a law suit coming your way soon Tommy.
helmets make you loose balance, Putting an object on your body doesn't make you safe. In fact if you see me wearing a helmet I usually will end up in the Emergency care. I'm 48 and every part of my body has been broken without a helmet on.
You just have to get used to wearing the helmet I used to be that way as a kid thinking the helmet would just make it harder to ride but it's actually cause your neck and head aren't used to the weight and feeling
I also can’t blame nobody but me for not having on gear it was my choice to ride and I will upload video later to my page so don’t nobody got to bashing the owner if it’s something said say it to me a helmet doesn’t always mean your not going to get hurt either this just come with the game but that stark varg yea that’s him but I kno 60 roll he beat @E-bikeguy pin this one
@@davidhazel36 sound dumb just because you haven’t had one yet that don’t delete all the people who have had them you do know that right just because you haven’t hit your head yet you can’t forget about the people who have hit their head and all the people who say just because you wear helmet, you can still die or have brain damage but it absorbs impact none of y’all can deny that
We see how fragile life is, people die wearing a helmet, and we STILL gamble by not wearing the minimal, basic safety gear... then try to justify the decision not to wear basic safety gear. This is entertaining AF... similar to a Yosemite Sam, or Daffy Duck cartoon!!! 😃
To everyone who says should of had a helmet on here’s my opinion a helmet could have been used to save some scratches to the face but for those who been watching e-bike guy should also know not only did his best friend died with a helmet but also Angelo aka evil Knievel died wearing proper gear n a helmet if god is going to take you he will they say seat belt save life’s but in my accident if I was wearing one it would of killed me the meaning behind all of this no one knows when it’s ur time but enjoy the time you do have … helmets and proper gear is always good to have but does not mean it will always save you 💯 …. My friend broRider did suffer a black eye nothing broken other then his feelings that he could not complete the race 💯
Yah did not take Angelo. The person who turns in front of Angelo took his life. So, Yah took 10 million Congolese lives, or did an evil man named Leopold kill them?
Bullshit
@@javiergarciajaraba2372 You must be a fool
Yeah, it doesn't mean it will always safe you but it can GREATLY REDUCE THE RISK of injury. A full face helmet would've 100% prevented him from having lacerations, maybe even no concussion and he could've just walked it off. I'm telling you, it's better to wear a helmet, stop being negligent.
The car did take his life but that helmet cracked causing his head to go into the helmet 😢but this is a sore subject so not responding no more about my brother Rip 😢
Glad he's going to be ok. It's a shame he had no crash helmet or other safety gear on.
Next time please make it happen and protect your guys.
Agreed
I think the race would have been closer if the Icon had a more knobby tire setup for dirt.
But the fact that the Icon can compete with a $13k dedicated e-dirt bike is a testament to true diy capabilities!
Yes most definitely
BS, there is nothing the guy to do with that large hub motor that would make it keep up with the Stark. Different universe!
I feel like the Tommebike would have still won if the rider had practice on the dirt, the distance and throttle control for take off at the line. Because even on mode 1 you can flip it instantly from 0 mph. I witnessed this personally with my Tommebike. My brother in law treated it like it was a motorcycle and it stood straight up. Plus those tires on the Stark kicks up hella dirt.
Man I'm happy the rider is going to be ok, congratulations on your builds accomplishment it speaks volumes .
Nice ride and im praying for the down driver and his speedy recovery.
Bad accident today but that’s part of the game that bike life embedded in my dna Rip vandy and Rip Angelo I think about yall everytime I’m on a bike one thing about it two things for show ain’t nothing gone stop me from being bikelife trust me it ain’t over yet that’s a promise them bikes gone either kill me or make me and if I die on a bike at least I went doing my passion Riding thanks to everybody that checked on me and was worried bout me 💯❣️
#RipAngelo #RipVandy the real rough riders 💪🏾❤️
man i always wear goggles or glasses when i ride even a fly or rock going 80mph to the eyeball hurts bad not to mention the constant eye infections. dam he hit that floor crazy man hope he good.
Safety first & always.
"Dirt road" is Florida talk for a road made from loose sand.
🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🙏🏾 glad he's good and recovering
Heck yeah 💯 he just got home to he going to talk about it soon
No body should ride that power of Ebike unless you have experience riding them this definitely different than riding a dirt bike. Be safe. You don’t want to be saying what you should have did. Bless up⚡️⚡️⚡️
I have experience you have to ride the bike to know it has to much torque you can’t even easy into it
Oh man sorry that happened to him bro looked like a nasty fall. Good thing he wasn't going too fast towards the end but damn yea dirt roads scare the shit out me even with dual sports. Ride safe Tommy 🙌🏻⚡
@JB360_NYC yeah bro he is in good spirit we did made another video about that
Helmets are what test pilots call "brain Buckets" because if you get into an accident moving faster then 20mph the helmet is there to make clean up easier.
You are right about risks, CANNOT eliminate all risks. Always a judgement call on what protection you want and what risk you are willing to take.
Glad to see you doing all this testing and building. You have to balance all risk and remember it's easy for people to criticize who aren't doing anything!
1. You must switch to at least brand new snow tire for traction. Those tires were basically bald compared to the terrain you were on.
2. I don't care if you live in Florida. You and your family must wear safety gear. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. FLIP FLOPS at 80mph. Not safe at all.
3. I love your channel please keep up the awesome innovation
4.I had an aluminum full suspension frame. I switched over to the Vector Typhoon frame. It's a full suspension steel frame. Yes I know you reinforce your frames but you need suspension flex. I seen going 80mph with 160mm rotors you need 220mm or 246mm for high speed runs. There are no real dirt bike tires for fat tire bikes. Going 60+ to over 100mph on a hardtail is insane. Full suspension is the wsy to go. With the right set up , it can make a difference on your bikes handling and stability. Much Love Peace my Brother.
FLIP FLOPS ARE THE CHOSEN FOOTWEAR OF WELL, SOMEONE ON THE BEACH. REINFORCE FRAMES THAT REINFORCING DOES FUCK ALL JUST LIKE TAPING LOLLYPOP STICKS TO THE FRAME AND THE WELDING, FFS/WTF, WELL THAT'S ANOTHER MATTER ENTIRELY
Made my Heart Stop!
So glad rider is doing okay.
Dang scary EBG
Peace Prospector Tripp
Thank you brother!
That fardriver screaming for help after the fall lol
Why does the e bike shake so much on the dirt and road? is it a stability issue or suspension?
Man he ditched it right on his face fuark that stark kicked it up dust everywhere. Hope the dudes good 👍
He is doing ok and in good spirits.
Aye im a fan of the whole E-bikeguy Crew & Fam & Always will be..
Im glad you all are Good.
I really do appreciate all the support you give me and my family 💯
Wow good video. I hope everybody's alright.
Epic battle. Im building my super ebike inspired by your vids.
RIGHT ON BRO!!!💯💯
He crashed because the bike was fast and the front got light and squirrelly on the sand dirt but please invest in the best helmet you can afford because when you crash you can use that helmet to cushion the fall. Amassing traction
Wounded bike and rider...🙏
Glad that nothing serious happened
What’s up EbikeGuy this just dawned on me and hopefully people in the comment section can chime in but with your speaking voice you sound exactly like *SAMUEL JACKSON?* Have you ever been told that? Lol.
Love the raw content as well…on e bikes.
tommebike definitely has more we need a more experienced rider (all love)
it wouldn't win against the stark varg but yeah it probably has more
aaaaaayooo that was wild. no damage to cells on the soft pack?
No the battery is safe battery bag saved the day
To all the people with negative comments I was the one riding yall can’t bash e-bike guy for nothing I choose to race with no helmet and if yall no anything this is part of the game I run through the finish line I never stop I just got dusted and couldn’t see so I couldn’t tell where I was going but just know I’m okay and will still be running the Tommybike icon whenever we have a race I’m still gone ride you can’t take bikelife out me I’m gone ride till I’m paralyzed or can’t ride no more preciate e-bike for letting me run the bike and good job to the stark varg
There's nothing negative about wanting you to ride safe
@@waygeHelmet and gear *
Which frame is it that that you are using on your latest ebike build?
It's a outroad fat tire mountain bike from Amazon
I don't understand the no helmet choice while racing on a dirt road 😕
You don't have to
@davihazel3653 you're right but he will
brother look at his absolute garbage battery builds that he should not be touching. a lot of important checklists items are not in this guys head.
@@vesc007you trippin fool I’ll beat the shit out of you on my son the batterys he build is better then any shit you got matter fact do you have a e-bike
@@vesc007 you a goof ball
Ouch!
Should have done the race on payment, not on a dirt road. Hope homie is alright 👍
@charlesdavis124 he is we have a video coming at 7:30
Hope he's okay, better find a paved road.
Lmno , that bike of yours is not for dirt its only for tarmac ,sure you can cruise slowly on dirt but without rear suspension you asking for trouble 😊 ,luckily it was a very minor crash. 🙏
we got a black Evil Knievel mf in da house !
(live and learn, my man, live and learn...prayers your ways)
@patcaza6166 heck yeah he told me the same thing.
Repeat after me: A hub motor is not good for off road. Mid drives rule off road! I knew from the beginning that the Stark was in a different class. No hub motor home built can do that.Of course that Stark costs 20 times what your home built cost.
"Costs 20 times more," i think not pal, why don't you ask Tommy the full build costings.
@howardridge1153 OK, So I was exaggerating, but I could build 4 or 5 electric bikes like the one in this video for the price of the stark
@@LarryRichelli why would anyone chop a frame and attempt to weld it back together, i showed my welder pal the video of the bike after the crash he asked me to stop as the frame showing the dent to downtube then spat coffee all over my carpet after he nearly choked on his drink due to laughing so much at Tommys welding skills, which FYi are none existant
@@howardridge1153 Anyone could buy a metal framed bike and put the largest, most powerful hub motor on it. It's not rocket science
@@LarryRichelli I know, it's where you want to stop the spending, Tommy must have invested over £2500.00 on this death trap and you can buy off the shelf an admitjet for $3000.00 that is designed to stop go and not snap, lol
Dang that sucks
I have a Big E bite but I don't have a helmet right now but I will be getting one believe that
Do a rematch drag race video on the road.
@Hybrid600 we will it's definitely coming soon
EB...yo!!! I love watching you guys, but you must start gearing up. Your bikes are too powerful to ride like that 4real. Be safe my dude!!.
Thank you 👊🏿 yes we did a video about this for now on we will gear up of that
@@E-bikeguy Keep doing what you do. I'm looking forward to amazing things with you and your channel. Peace!
@@cbw4sho thank you! I will for sure!
Welp.... My mid level MX3 is the slowest thing around.
Im guessing the steering stabilizer was adjusted too tight. Looked like he couldn't turn properly. A helmet would have been smart.
Dirt was in his eyes he try to pull over and slow down hit a bump and crash has nothing to do with a stabilizer if anything it help him miss the tree when he did have a sec to react
17:10 imagine if that was the road and he fell face first to the ground. If y’all race in the road y’all definitely better wear a helmet, bro I mean y’all can do whatever y’all wanna do, but once you face implant into that concrete and your face open you can’t reverse time.
Fast
What up Ebikeguy., do you have a Facebook page we can join and share pictures of our DIY bikes and info on how we can add upgrades.
@EddieED711 yes it's ebike neighborhood
@@E-bikeguy Ok man, thanks
Bruh😢😢😢 you looking kinda wreckless especially for a dad. You can't see that? 1❤
Facts!
Fact: helmets are good.
Edit: love your bikes.
I have the same bike rack as you
Bad idea from the get go...the Tommy bike's tires are never going to bite that terrain, only at low speeds. I think the Tommy Bike wins without racing anyways cause it's much less expensive and its top speed kills the Stark. Set up Both Bikes with the same tires then race again. Hope that Young man is alright...that was a nasty head plant.
I definitely agree we was wat out of our comfort zone.
Deffo need a helmet next time, as could of been alot worse. Enjoyed the video by the way ✌
@gaviscon4304 thank you bro next time we will
I don't understand the racing and speed runs on gravel and dirt! Use the road where you have traction and it's safer.
@@weshenry9592 I agree
It depends on the tires. If you have knobby tires, dirt is way better. You also walk away with less injuries if you do crash. If he slapped the asphalt the same way, he would be getting new teeth. Definitely get a helmet on for fast runs.
@tacticooldennis yes for now on it's a must now
@@E-bikeguy It also makes a great place to mount a GoPro. :)
Nah dude in the event of a spill, sand is where ya wanna be every time. I never broke a bone in sand crashes only hardpack.
Bro you are a icon I love your videos and I love the honesty but I would take this video down unless you making some major safety changes on your channel. That was very hard to watch just being honest.
I do understand the reason for showing the video and respected but I don't think it's going to be interpreted the way that you think
I love what you are doing but you all need helmets at least! I have broken two helmets the hard way in 20 years.
Yes we will have one on the next time we race
How the hell did you think you were gonna beat a varg with that
My thoughts exactly. This is crazy thinking that buying a metal bike frame and throwing the largest hub motor you can on it can compete with such a beautifully engineered machine like the Stark Varg is a joke.
How come no one wears helmets?!?! 🤔
Need front and rear cameras, paved road, equal weight riders, googles. Maybe use a drone to capture from above.
@@mrcleanisin true enough 💯
Helmets save lives pick some up bro.
Told you
My dude don't take this the wrong way but comb your hair and get a haircut
Well you did not have to upload this incident of crashing and creating controversy. Your putting a driver that was not knowledgeable enough to be running such a high powered bike. He may have driven your bike a few times but doesn't have the experience. The guy on the Stark Varg was knowledgeable enough to know to wear a helmet at high speeds, just common sense and he did not crash because his bike had knobby tires for the dirt. We all know this bike can and has gone 103 mph GPS which is impressive but highly dangerous on a bicycle frame. Your the one that knows this bike inside out but your too heavy to get the maximum speed that this bike can deliver. A person should always learn from there mistakes but being cocky shows that they learned nothing especially when they don't get away with it..
In all honesty, y’all race on the road all the time maybe that dude didn’t have enough experience to be riding that bike. If we be honest I don’t see y’all race on this road a lot of times so you can’t really blame the elements.
@FloridaVolts you right but he is learning tho he is used to dirtbike and stuff like that
Take your same setup and transfer it to an old Honda CRF ! Thank me later 🙂↕️
please start wearing helmets
That mean your bike dont run no more that 50 or 55 mph no mre base and what i just watch
Good job he had a helmet on "NOT" Tommy you are playing with gullible peoples lives allowing them to ride your super fast bikes on dusty loose trails without adequate tyres or bodily protection, i see a law suit coming your way soon Tommy.
keep save, that crash din't look nice, all sand between your teeth. glad you are oke. good its sand not street.
Thank you we have a video coming at 7pm about the whole situation.
helmets make you loose balance, Putting an object on your body doesn't make you safe. In fact if you see me wearing a helmet I usually will end up in the Emergency care. I'm 48 and every part of my body has been broken without a helmet on.
You just have to get used to wearing the helmet I used to be that way as a kid thinking the helmet would just make it harder to ride but it's actually cause your neck and head aren't used to the weight and feeling
Helmet don’t mean anything I know people who have died with full gear god was just with me and my brother Angelo Evil k was with me
I also can’t blame nobody but me for not having on gear it was my choice to ride and I will upload video later to my page so don’t nobody got to bashing the owner if it’s something said say it to me a helmet doesn’t always mean your not going to get hurt either this just come with the game but that stark varg yea that’s him but I kno 60 roll he beat @E-bikeguy pin this one
Dont you guys believe in helmets ? You are sending the wrong message to others in my opinion of course
Nah man, I've been riding for 25 years, no helmet, no head injuries. 💯 stay true
@@davidhazel36 sound dumb just because you haven’t had one yet that don’t delete all the people who have had them you do know that right just because you haven’t hit your head yet you can’t forget about the people who have hit their head and all the people who say just because you wear helmet, you can still die or have brain damage but it absorbs impact none of y’all can deny that
@FloridaVolts For sure, it would help. I choose to risk it! Now go be safe somewhere and get a stronger helmet. Ken!
We see how fragile life is, people die wearing a helmet, and we STILL gamble by not wearing the minimal, basic safety gear... then try to justify the decision not to wear basic safety gear. This is entertaining AF... similar to a Yosemite Sam, or Daffy Duck cartoon!!! 😃
Told yous it would never beat the stark 😂
@@BoSs0nE01 wasn't trying to beat it. Thank you
@@E-bikeguy do you not know how a race works?