It's bc the hilt was cracked and the crystal was directly touching her hand I think it's kinda stupid to do it when the lightsaber is on, from a creative perspective. And every other bleed we've seen in canon involved an explosion. This one did not. But the "how" part makes sense tbh, and it makes sense why anakins wouldn't have turned
I guess anakin wasn't dark and evil enough when he killed all those younglings back at 19 bby or when he killed the tusken raiders after watching his mother die.😢
I guess the shot is visually impressive but it raises some questions about how bleeding a kyber crystal actually works. For example Vader had to focus all his hatred and even then only managed it the second time (see Darth Vader 2017 #5). That's a big difference to how it happend with Osha, with her not even focusing on it.
I can think of a couple of explanations, though of course neither are perfect: 1. Osha no longer having an outlet for her anger after killing Sol allowed her to inadvertently channel it to bleed the crystal. 2. Qimir is actually the one bleeding the crystal, and he's allowing her to think she did it herself to convince her the dark side is her destiny. Of course, neither explanation covers the absence of the usual explosive plain and visions, and it's entirely possible we are misreading the scene and she is intentionally bleeding it.
@sebastianbonilla1323 Absolutely. Anakin's mind, as we see it, is a raging stormy sea, and he's in constant conflict, cutting off the small butterflies of light always swarming him. It's awesome imagery.
Looked really cool but like someone else has mentioned, shouldn't this have happened with Anakins saber in ROTS? Edit: I looked at it again, her hand is physically touching the crystal which gives a decent reason why this happens.
Speculation: it's possible that Anakin's rage wasn't directed at anyone in particular and was lashing out in anger to achieve his goal of saving Padmé. Osha, on the other hand, felt immensely betrayed by Sol and concentrated all of her hatred towards him and his crystal, bleeding it.
@@jecrex8349in episode 2 Anakin watched his mother die and he killed all the tusken raiders, women and children too but I guess they were just animals to him.
Something nobody is really talking about is, that was master Sol's saber, the very same one used to kill her mother. Others have asked why this didn't happen to Anakin's saber in ROTS but this would be a nice way of explaining that, whether it was intentional or not from the writters. It would make sense that part of her anger and hatred would be directed towards the saber, and with the crystal exposed and that close to her, it would make sense that it would bleed. The Acolyte was a bit iffy as a show on the whole for me, but I like the way it ended. Seeing a kyber crystal bleed in live action was awesome, the light saber combat was great and I'm glad Osha turned to the dark side and it wasn't just a happy Disney style ending. I'm looking forward to what will happen next with the characters.
I really like how it was done in the Acolyte, it sounded like the light saber was screaming as it turned, while giving the effect that the blood is leaching through the lightsaber.
No. Sith Crystals were synthetic so as to not be used the same way jedi used the sabers and as often. Thats why Sidious kept turning his off when he faced Maul... They would over heat
Not in Legends, no. Sith sabers usually used synthetic crystals due to both being restricted from gaining true crystals (due to the Jedi occupying most of the galaxy’s known sites of the crystals) and that even if they did get some, the crystals couldn’t handle the Dark Side’s more volatile and unstable energy. This is likely the way Vader in Legends obtained his saber, simply by making a new one after losing his older Jedi saber and using one such synthetic crystal. The current canon is what introduced the concept of “Bleeding a Kyber Crystal”, and as far as we know, the Sith when first pledging themselves to the Order, are tasked with hunting down a Jedi to take their lightsaber that’ll undergo the “bleeding” process in order to claim the corrupted blade as their own. Though technically ANY Dark Side force user (Dark Jedi, Imperial Inquisitors, etc) can do this with their own sabers, the Sith are usually the most known to do so. With only Ahsoka and Luke having been seen in the current canon having been able to reverse the bleeding process (though with different results).
I like the way bleeding was shown in Survivor best. I like the deconstructing the saber and spilling your hatred into the crystal. Also, Anakin, Pong Krell, etc don’t bleed the crystals because it’s an intentional action you must take onto the crystal. I prefer it this way. I prefer intention being the driver of bleeding crystals.
I wouldn't say that the one in Visions was necessarily bleeding, but it was strange to see it turn to green instead of white. I dunno, it's Visions, so take it as you will
Yeah, Visions was technically noncanon interpretation. The site calls it anime inspired. Also if I remember correctly, wasn't part of the plot that those crystals were special.
@@MichaelDeHaven Yeah, the one in Visions wasn't bleeding at all. The crystals were specially "tempered" by the saber smith to reflect the wielder. The way the episode handled it was phenomenal and kinda made me wish it was always like that, but that episode still pointed out that it's special even beyond it not being canon, so it can hardly be used as precedent for this.
Ik people said there is a plot hole and all with anakin but didnt the Star Wars visions episode say they were special lightsabers, i think she just had a special lightsaber not a normal one like anakin
For the people asking why Anakin's lightsaber didn't turn red in Revenge of the Sith: it's not as simple as the user doing evil things. Their hatred has to be channeled into the crystal. Anakin was doing terrible things in Revenge of the Sith, but his heart simply wasn't in it yet. He knew what he was doing was wrong and he didn't want to do it, but he felt he had to to save Padme. That's why there was a whole scene of him just crying on Mustafar after killing the Separatist leaders. Anakin and Vader were still at war within him, and it wasn't until after his fight with Obi-Wan (or possibly after he learned of Padme's death) that he fully turned.
I like in the vader 2017 comic, he steals it from a powerful jedi master Kirak who is a really awesome character, and then bleeds it himself. It's more explosive and difficult for him, probably both because of The power of Kirak's bond with the crystal and Vader's own inner conflict, unlike Mae who was certain when she killed the weaker Sol. Some people are disappointed that the show didn't focus more on the sith characters (although in the end, one of the good-guy characters did become sith), so I would recommend Vader 2017, as Vader, Palpatine, the inquisitors and the awesome Darth Momin are really cool there. I also hear that Kylo Ren comics by the same writer Charles Soule is good, but I haven't read those yet.
I dislike the idea of "bleeding" a crystal as the *primary* way a Sith gains a lightsaber. Because it ties the Sith too much to the Jedi, rather than letting them be their own thing. I think it'd be better if kyber crystal bleeding was just a sort of last "screw you" that Sith could do to Jedi they've vanquished, rather than some sort of ritual way they obtain their lightsabers.
@RaptorJesus the sith are an old splinter group of the jedi, so I think it makes sense. Even in a new hope, Tarkin says Vader is the last of their religion, so they have a shared religious foundation unlike other sects.
@@garbotoxins840 Ehhhh. That may be the route Disney decides to go with it, but I liked the way it was in Legends, where the Sith existed independent of the Jedi, only really becoming "connected" after the Schism and the exile of the Dark Jedi lead by Ajunta Paul landed on Korriban. They took over Korriban, which had been inhabited by a group of species called the Sith, and over time the term Sith would shift to refer to the Sith Order, rather than just the Sith race.
I really enjoyed actually seeing the Bleeding process. I feel like it’s something that’s been heard and mentioned, but it’s nice to actually see how it works
I think it's meant to involve power levels, maybe? Darth Vader was a being half-Force half-Human, he was easily one of the most powerful Force-wielders who ever lived, but he spent most of 20 years as a Jedi before he Fell. Trying to "Bleed" his lightsabre backfired because he was trying to override his own power, but he figured it out at the second attempt?
I heard bleeding a kyber Krystal is basically torturing it until all it feels is strain and pain and the sith can hear the screaming of the Krystal, making it harder for them to ever transition back to the lightside
Also a moment that Disney shows ho little they understand much of anything. If a Lightsaber crystal was bleeding in real time the end of the saber would not be blue. It would flicker with red light until the flickers became solid. A lightsaber beam is created from a focal point. Therefore anything coming out of that point would either be mixed or show as two separate colors. But thats just physics and the writers for the show care more about their headcanon than they do about anything else.
Did they not play Jedi survivor that showed it literally perfectly, and people going on about anakin wasn’t touching his crystal, neither was Dagan, just pushing his anger into it
This finale had it’s problems, but this moment and the choreography were awesome! I got chills watching that. Osha using her masters old sab with a bled kyber crystal is so cold.
Nah kyber bleeding is actually one of the better things they came up with. I agree legends tends to be better but a lot of yall just mindlessly trash disney bc it's disney at this point. 9th Jedi was interesting and I did like the episode but even those were synthetic crystals the guy made. I think it's kind of dumb. Lightsabers switching colors while they're on is corny af to me idk why
@@cloudmaster182 - the way the worked in _Ninth Jedi_ was like they were lenses, with the user focusing the Force through the crystal, so it made sense that the color and intensity would change with the user. and the idea that Sith and Dark Side users don’t have a natural, healthy connection to the Force that would lead them to a kyber crystal was decent, too… and so that they had to create a synthetic crystal was logical and neat, I thought. I know the canon system has aspects of both, but the way they showed it in this episode just now was pretty silly… and like, why would Anakin’s crystal not bleed in _Revenge of the Sith_ ?
@@Sam_T2000 how crystal bleeding works, is that the user has to first mentally prepare themselves and then focus their hatred specifically into the crystal. Anakin didn't have time for that, he had a mission. And he was still very emotionally unstable. Meanwhile here, she did it without even realizing it, which straight up contradicts what was established before.
@@Sam_T2000I'm not saying I'm totally behind it. But as someone else pointed out me, her hilt is open. So she's directly touching the crystal. That wasn't the case with Anakin. Not sure If I'm a fan, but it does deal with the issue at least.
You know what would be epic. If they had a bunch of Jedi in a room then their lightsabers slowly turn red form teh dark energy from like a Sith or something
Yeah thats not how it works lol, This is like that Anime Star Wars show. It's already canon that you need to full of your PAIN and ANGER into the Kyber. It takes mediation, "VADER" was told to head to Mustafar to chance the kyber he collected to focus his anger. It took Anakin days, if not weeks to turn the Crystal. I haven't watched any of the show, just short videos like this. But this is NOT how Bleeding the Kyber works. Unless everything else now isn't canon.
That's her character tho. She thinks she's different from her sister because she wants to be different, and wants to be unique. But even in the force, they are the same. She rejected to be trained until she sealed her own path to the dark side and thought there was no way back.
Sith/dark side users are supposed to concentrate their negative emotions onto the crystal itself to make it bend to the will of the user, hence making it bleed. Crystals are naturally light side and have any color (should be transparent until a jedi earns the crystal i think) so it takes immense and focused effort to make it bleed. It's almost a rite of passage and a bit difficult to do, but you can say she makes it look effortless because of the vergence thing. But then again, it took vader a ton of hatred and anger to make a jedi's crystal bleed
@@gig9499 Dagan made his kyber nleed pretty effortlessly too. So, it higly depends on many things, but Vader was so deep in his hatred and fear, so crystal star resisting to the piont of creating illusions.
I liked how the crystal bled inside the hilt. But I hated so much seeing the saber turn from blue to red. It looked so dumb. And if that's sabers change, rather than it being with the crystal itself, then some things don't translate well to live action. I loved it when we saw Dagan Gera bleed his crystal, but there it didn't look as silly
@@quintessentialmao3360 Bro, the Planet they were on was lowkey from the Plagueis Novel. Plagueis was there with his master to mine Cortosis. In fact it is even that very cave where Plagueis killed his master. Disney and Legends NEVER added a Muun into live action. Disney probably doesn't even know his species. It would be narratively pointless teasing a simple caveman so much and putting him into spot light. This "caveman" is 100% Plagueis
@@w.dgaster1635 Bro I read the book, it's just sad to see only scenes like this... idk its just dumb that we don't get a movie about palp and plagueis... But instead we get to see Plagueis in the worst "star wars" show that ever existed (bruh)
I have to say the writing of this show is very predictable and the plot was lacking, but it also introduced a lot of cool aliens and concepts into live action and I feel like it understood how to feel like a true Star Wars show. I also loved the lightsaber fights they were really well done (would’ve liked to see more in the finale though)
I really like this more positive take, since it breathes fresh air when we all need it most, and considers things we often don’t think of at first. But I’m afraid that the brewing comment wildfire brings up some good points. Guess you have your next clip?
Got to honest, seeing the change was cool, but saying the reason it happened so fast was cause she apparently was touching the crystal feels like a cop out explanation
It isn't really a cop-out when that is the established canon. The times we see bleeding, characters either touch it directly with their hands, or focusing the force directly on it.
@@garbotoxins840 yes but in the examples prior, the process to cause the crystals to change took a longer time while also requiring more focus to actively change it rather then seeming accidental
So stupid. Looks stupid and the idea is stupid. The only thing I've seen that was cool, is the metal that shuts down lightsabers. And that comes from the real EU.
I was kind of disappointed with the effect it just made me think of those toy lightsabers from saberforge for the price of the show I would have expected more
Anakin destroyed the youngling assaults in padme and fatally injured her. He slaughtered the droid leadership and the bug people. His saber doesn’t change. One girl scream bleeding an in use crystal is disgusting.
There’s certain things that work tho.Jedi Survivor is understandable and makes sense,Cartoon one had a whole different lore.But this is the same universe as anakin no? So how was anakin’s saber never gradually turned red? I don’t watch the accolyte so idk if there’s lore there.The only thing i saw and liked is the combat
I liked that in the end, he couldn't fully admit his failings. He killed their mother in fear, but even now he has to believe he did the right thing, no matter how wrong it was. He became like the opposite of Torbin.
Love this guy trying to pretend that the acolyte was actually a good show. Sad how hard people fight for a billion dollar company that actively hates them
Was it cool, yes. Does it make sense, no. How does Osha know how to bleed a crystal? She didn’t even complete her Jedi training. Vader needed Palatine to tell him how to bleed the Kyler crystal, and it was a torturous process. But I guess Osha can just kill one guy and that’s it
She didn't know how to bleed a crystal, but the lightsaber was cracked open, and she was touching it as she killed her master and father figure. If Luke had killed Vader while holding a crystal, it too would have bled. I think the same would have happened if Anakin killed Obi-wan while holding a crystal.
I still wish this SW element was a Legends thing first. Would kill to make it so via time travel, reality warping, or something. And even then, a shame this live action first is in an inevitably damned show by terms of future critical acclaim. Remember, RoboCop 2 did a kind of CGI first by way of using a certain villain's head for a figure interface in the endgame, but alas, it just wasn't a great film all while said effects are noticeably dated, so the achievement feels worthless.
Ass show, when sol jumped off the balcony backwards and they were both floating I knew there couldn’t be anymore defending this show. Absolutely tragic
I guess this is pretty cool? But the writing and storytelling is still the worst imho. Doesnt mean that anyone here has to agree with me, but this show redcon'd so much man...
Like i don’t care about George Lucas’s Star Wars, this entire series and era of star wars is devoid of any true quality content, period point blank. eckharts attempting to defend the series is laughable at the least and warrants a unsubscribe.
What took Vader personally slaughtering many his friends, the order that took him in & even the school of padawans osha did straight after her first kill/betrayal. Ok 👍🏼🤐😂
Vader didn’t care about bleeding his crystal, just achieving his goals. Osha did it on accident because the saber’s hilt was broken exposing the crystal for her to make "direct contact" with it.
Vader had no Hate against the Jedi he has killed, he thought it was necessary to save padme which he justified with it. Osha was full with sadness and hate as she was killing the person she always trusted after finding out he lied to her for over half her life. There is a clear difference
Hurry up and make Better Star Wars Animated Movies and Series Based on Famous Legends/EU characters and stories separate from garbage Dave Filoni Elseworld Universe for Star Wars could also have Multiverse and Elseworlds.
this is cool although it does raise the question, why did anakin lightsaber remained blue when he killed all those children, and even after that?
It's bc the hilt was cracked and the crystal was directly touching her hand
I think it's kinda stupid to do it when the lightsaber is on, from a creative perspective. And every other bleed we've seen in canon involved an explosion. This one did not. But the "how" part makes sense tbh, and it makes sense why anakins wouldn't have turned
@@cloudmaster182
I mean, gradual switch of blade's color does show her uncertainty in what she's doing.
Most likely because he wasn't putting conscious effort into bleeding the crystal.
He never touched the crystal. It remained in place. We see the crystal was displaced, poking out through the exterior sleeve.
@@cloudmaster182how does it come that Dagan managed to bleed the crystal without durectly touching it. He just let it hover worh the force.
I guess anakin wasn't dark and evil enough when he killed all those younglings back at 19 bby or when he killed the tusken raiders after watching his mother die.😢
That’s not how it works
It's not like that, you have to put your anger/hatred into the crystal
@@brentmation8454 I already had this conversation in a different comment. Go find it to see the conclusion.😂
@@brentmation8454 And Osha did that how?
@@Bayard1503the crystal was exposed. It isn't that hard
I guess the shot is visually impressive but it raises some questions about how bleeding a kyber crystal actually works. For example Vader had to focus all his hatred and even then only managed it the second time (see Darth Vader 2017 #5). That's a big difference to how it happend with Osha, with her not even focusing on it.
I can think of a couple of explanations, though of course neither are perfect:
1. Osha no longer having an outlet for her anger after killing Sol allowed her to inadvertently channel it to bleed the crystal.
2. Qimir is actually the one bleeding the crystal, and he's allowing her to think she did it herself to convince her the dark side is her destiny.
Of course, neither explanation covers the absence of the usual explosive plain and visions, and it's entirely possible we are misreading the scene and she is intentionally bleeding it.
Wasnt the whole point of the comic to show Vader's inner conflict?
@sebastianbonilla1323 Absolutely. Anakin's mind, as we see it, is a raging stormy sea, and he's in constant conflict, cutting off the small butterflies of light always swarming him. It's awesome imagery.
@@shahzebhasan9995 My theory is Sol's repressed darkness being exposed to the crystal all those years made it easier to bleed when Osha fell
@@violetentity7341 yeah, his connection to the light was weaker than many jedi.
Looked really cool but like someone else has mentioned, shouldn't this have happened with Anakins saber in ROTS?
Edit: I looked at it again, her hand is physically touching the crystal which gives a decent reason why this happens.
He didn't touch his kyber crystal.
Speculation: it's possible that Anakin's rage wasn't directed at anyone in particular and was lashing out in anger to achieve his goal of saving Padmé. Osha, on the other hand, felt immensely betrayed by Sol and concentrated all of her hatred towards him and his crystal, bleeding it.
@@odimusdir9857and osha did?
@@jecrex8349in episode 2 Anakin watched his mother die and he killed all the tusken raiders, women and children too but I guess they were just animals to him.
@@gabberaquit8914 with her finger, yes. It was slightly exposed.
It’s cool this is the second time we see someone bleed their Kyber Crystal after Dagan
Vader did it in the 2017 Darth Vader comics
all she did was have a sissy fit and get mad holing a lightsaber... it was so pathetic
'We see'
That was stupid.
@@Lucas-ek2uc"we see"
Something nobody is really talking about is, that was master Sol's saber, the very same one used to kill her mother. Others have asked why this didn't happen to Anakin's saber in ROTS but this would be a nice way of explaining that, whether it was intentional or not from the writters. It would make sense that part of her anger and hatred would be directed towards the saber, and with the crystal exposed and that close to her, it would make sense that it would bleed.
The Acolyte was a bit iffy as a show on the whole for me, but I like the way it ended. Seeing a kyber crystal bleed in live action was awesome, the light saber combat was great and I'm glad Osha turned to the dark side and it wasn't just a happy Disney style ending. I'm looking forward to what will happen next with the characters.
I really like how it was done in the Acolyte, it sounded like the light saber was screaming as it turned, while giving the effect that the blood is leaching through the lightsaber.
this is how vader got his red crystal in legends isn't it?
it was shown in a Darth Vader comic which is considered canon
@@JSerrato289 ah, cool.
No. Sith Crystals were synthetic so as to not be used the same way jedi used the sabers and as often. Thats why Sidious kept turning his off when he faced Maul... They would over heat
Not in Legends, no. Sith sabers usually used synthetic crystals due to both being restricted from gaining true crystals (due to the Jedi occupying most of the galaxy’s known sites of the crystals) and that even if they did get some, the crystals couldn’t handle the Dark Side’s more volatile and unstable energy. This is likely the way Vader in Legends obtained his saber, simply by making a new one after losing his older Jedi saber and using one such synthetic crystal.
The current canon is what introduced the concept of “Bleeding a Kyber Crystal”, and as far as we know, the Sith when first pledging themselves to the Order, are tasked with hunting down a Jedi to take their lightsaber that’ll undergo the “bleeding” process in order to claim the corrupted blade as their own. Though technically ANY Dark Side force user (Dark Jedi, Imperial Inquisitors, etc) can do this with their own sabers, the Sith are usually the most known to do so. With only Ahsoka and Luke having been seen in the current canon having been able to reverse the bleeding process (though with different results).
A canon comic
Looking at Darth Plagueis in the live action sends chills down my spine, and yeah also the crystal was cool
Despite this show’s many flaws, I love that we finally got to see someone bleed a kyber crystal in live-action.
I like the way bleeding was shown in Survivor best. I like the deconstructing the saber and spilling your hatred into the crystal. Also, Anakin, Pong Krell, etc don’t bleed the crystals because it’s an intentional action you must take onto the crystal. I prefer it this way. I prefer intention being the driver of bleeding crystals.
Retcons feel cool for about 5 seconds before you want the same treatment for the preexisting content.
I wouldn't say that the one in Visions was necessarily bleeding, but it was strange to see it turn to green instead of white. I dunno, it's Visions, so take it as you will
Yeah, Visions was technically noncanon interpretation. The site calls it anime inspired. Also if I remember correctly, wasn't part of the plot that those crystals were special.
Visions should never be brought near any conversation involving canon
@@MichaelDeHaven Yeah, the one in Visions wasn't bleeding at all. The crystals were specially "tempered" by the saber smith to reflect the wielder. The way the episode handled it was phenomenal and kinda made me wish it was always like that, but that episode still pointed out that it's special even beyond it not being canon, so it can hardly be used as precedent for this.
@@argentum909 I'm just saying, canon or not, that wasn't bleeding. It was more or less purified, but in their own twist
The shot where the crystal was exposed was there for a reason.
Ik people said there is a plot hole and all with anakin but didnt the Star Wars visions episode say they were special lightsabers, i think she just had a special lightsaber not a normal one like anakin
For the people asking why Anakin's lightsaber didn't turn red in Revenge of the Sith: it's not as simple as the user doing evil things. Their hatred has to be channeled into the crystal.
Anakin was doing terrible things in Revenge of the Sith, but his heart simply wasn't in it yet. He knew what he was doing was wrong and he didn't want to do it, but he felt he had to to save Padme. That's why there was a whole scene of him just crying on Mustafar after killing the Separatist leaders. Anakin and Vader were still at war within him, and it wasn't until after his fight with Obi-Wan (or possibly after he learned of Padme's death) that he fully turned.
I still prefer the EU where the saber color was determined by whatever gem/crystal used. But I'm kinda coming around to the whole bleeding.
I like in the vader 2017 comic, he steals it from a powerful jedi master Kirak who is a really awesome character, and then bleeds it himself. It's more explosive and difficult for him, probably both because of The power of Kirak's bond with the crystal and Vader's own inner conflict, unlike Mae who was certain when she killed the weaker Sol. Some people are disappointed that the show didn't focus more on the sith characters (although in the end, one of the good-guy characters did become sith), so I would recommend Vader 2017, as Vader, Palpatine, the inquisitors and the awesome Darth Momin are really cool there. I also hear that Kylo Ren comics by the same writer Charles Soule is good, but I haven't read those yet.
I dislike the idea of "bleeding" a crystal as the *primary* way a Sith gains a lightsaber. Because it ties the Sith too much to the Jedi, rather than letting them be their own thing. I think it'd be better if kyber crystal bleeding was just a sort of last "screw you" that Sith could do to Jedi they've vanquished, rather than some sort of ritual way they obtain their lightsabers.
@RaptorJesus the sith are an old splinter group of the jedi, so I think it makes sense. Even in a new hope, Tarkin says Vader is the last of their religion, so they have a shared religious foundation unlike other sects.
@@garbotoxins840 Ehhhh. That may be the route Disney decides to go with it, but I liked the way it was in Legends, where the Sith existed independent of the Jedi, only really becoming "connected" after the Schism and the exile of the Dark Jedi lead by Ajunta Paul landed on Korriban.
They took over Korriban, which had been inhabited by a group of species called the Sith, and over time the term Sith would shift to refer to the Sith Order, rather than just the Sith race.
I really enjoyed actually seeing the Bleeding process. I feel like it’s something that’s been heard and mentioned, but it’s nice to actually see how it works
Bruh the 9th Jedi Needs a full show
I liked it and loved the cameo and yes the Sith do need a series
Just because you use the power of the dark side, doesnt mean your lightsaber gonna change color instantly
so just like star wars vision, maybe this show is not canon
it's a small thing that can be explained.
It's not as big as creating the chosen one, lets focus on that maybe
Bro Vader nearly blew up the room he was standing in and it took it more than one try. What the fuck
I think it's meant to involve power levels, maybe? Darth Vader was a being half-Force half-Human, he was easily one of the most powerful Force-wielders who ever lived, but he spent most of 20 years as a Jedi before he Fell. Trying to "Bleed" his lightsabre backfired because he was trying to override his own power, but he figured it out at the second attempt?
Acolyte is pretty much bringing legends material to make up for the rest of the show.
I quite enjoyed the final, and with Osha bleeding the crystal that scene is quite amazing to watch.
Also saw comic version in the Darth Vader comic where he kills a Jedi & take’s his kyber crystal and corrupt’s it
I heard bleeding a kyber Krystal is basically torturing it until all it feels is strain and pain and the sith can hear the screaming of the Krystal, making it harder for them to ever transition back to the lightside
The best part about this "bleeding" crystal mess, that there are 100 different reasons how it's done and each more wildly inconsistent than the next.
Also a moment that Disney shows ho little they understand much of anything. If a Lightsaber crystal was bleeding in real time the end of the saber would not be blue. It would flicker with red light until the flickers became solid. A lightsaber beam is created from a focal point. Therefore anything coming out of that point would either be mixed or show as two separate colors. But thats just physics and the writers for the show care more about their headcanon than they do about anything else.
Did they not play Jedi survivor that showed it literally perfectly, and people going on about anakin wasn’t touching his crystal, neither was Dagan, just pushing his anger into it
The color switch is because the productors use Adobe after effects that makes switch color easy
This finale had it’s problems, but this moment and the choreography were awesome! I got chills watching that. Osha using her masters old sab with a bled kyber crystal is so cold.
Hahahaha
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_The Ninth Jedi_ did lightsaber color lore best, OG canon did it second best… but the current system is the worst.
Nah kyber bleeding is actually one of the better things they came up with. I agree legends tends to be better but a lot of yall just mindlessly trash disney bc it's disney at this point. 9th Jedi was interesting and I did like the episode but even those were synthetic crystals the guy made. I think it's kind of dumb. Lightsabers switching colors while they're on is corny af to me idk why
@@cloudmaster182 - the way the worked in _Ninth Jedi_ was like they were lenses, with the user focusing the Force through the crystal, so it made sense that the color and intensity would change with the user.
and the idea that Sith and Dark Side users don’t have a natural, healthy connection to the Force that would lead them to a kyber crystal was decent, too… and so that they had to create a synthetic crystal was logical and neat, I thought.
I know the canon system has aspects of both, but the way they showed it in this episode just now was pretty silly… and like, why would Anakin’s crystal not bleed in _Revenge of the Sith_ ?
@@Sam_T2000 how crystal bleeding works, is that the user has to first mentally prepare themselves and then focus their hatred specifically into the crystal.
Anakin didn't have time for that, he had a mission. And he was still very emotionally unstable.
Meanwhile here, she did it without even realizing it, which straight up contradicts what was established before.
@@Sam_T2000I'm not saying I'm totally behind it. But as someone else pointed out me, her hilt is open. So she's directly touching the crystal. That wasn't the case with Anakin. Not sure If I'm a fan, but it does deal with the issue at least.
Did, did Disney just fuse the ideas of bleeding and force connection dictating saber color?
You know what would be epic. If they had a bunch of Jedi in a room then their lightsabers slowly turn red form teh dark energy from like a Sith or something
Yeah thats not how it works lol, This is like that Anime Star Wars show. It's already canon that you need to full of your PAIN and ANGER into the Kyber.
It takes mediation, "VADER" was told to head to Mustafar to chance the kyber he collected to focus his anger. It took Anakin days, if not weeks to turn the Crystal.
I haven't watched any of the show, just short videos like this. But this is NOT how Bleeding the Kyber works. Unless everything else now isn't canon.
This bitck for 7 eps. I'm not my sister.
Ep 8 Begins: I will not join u.
End of Ep 8:I'll come train with u
That's her character tho. She thinks she's different from her sister because she wants to be different, and wants to be unique. But even in the force, they are the same.
She rejected to be trained until she sealed her own path to the dark side and thought there was no way back.
How does that work though?
So from what I understand if you rage really hard the blade turns red, but how come Anakins lightsaber stays blue?
You need to physucaly or throught force make a connection with kyber crystal.
@odimusdir9857 In this case, I believe her sense of betrayal from Sol caused her to bleed his crystal as she killed him.
@@jecrex8349 no, she really touched kyber with her finger. It was slightly exposed.
Sith/dark side users are supposed to concentrate their negative emotions onto the crystal itself to make it bend to the will of the user, hence making it bleed. Crystals are naturally light side and have any color (should be transparent until a jedi earns the crystal i think) so it takes immense and focused effort to make it bleed. It's almost a rite of passage and a bit difficult to do, but you can say she makes it look effortless because of the vergence thing. But then again, it took vader a ton of hatred and anger to make a jedi's crystal bleed
@@gig9499 Dagan made his kyber nleed pretty effortlessly too. So, it higly depends on many things, but Vader was so deep in his hatred and fear, so crystal star resisting to the piont of creating illusions.
I liked how the crystal bled inside the hilt. But I hated so much seeing the saber turn from blue to red. It looked so dumb. And if that's sabers change, rather than it being with the crystal itself, then some things don't translate well to live action. I loved it when we saw Dagan Gera bleed his crystal, but there it didn't look as silly
Dumb scene. Why would the blade gradually change color?
Like how my guy put spoiler warning but seriously who cares about spoilers in this show
Unfortunately I was spoiled about Plagueis appearance in the show which I very much did care about
@@w.dgaster1635 Well he was a fucking caveman so idk man... That's not Plagueis
@@quintessentialmao3360 Bro, the Planet they were on was lowkey from the Plagueis Novel. Plagueis was there with his master to mine Cortosis. In fact it is even that very cave where Plagueis killed his master. Disney and Legends NEVER added a Muun into live action. Disney probably doesn't even know his species. It would be narratively pointless teasing a simple caveman so much and putting him into spot light. This "caveman" is 100% Plagueis
@@w.dgaster1635 Bro I read the book, it's just sad to see only scenes like this... idk its just dumb that we don't get a movie about palp and plagueis... But instead we get to see Plagueis in the worst "star wars" show that ever existed (bruh)
I feel like lore is just all over the damn place now. Everything just happens for the sake of “cool”.
basically there is no consistency whatsoever, any lore doesn't matter and no laws about it need to be followed. Good to know.
I have to say the writing of this show is very predictable and the plot was lacking, but it also introduced a lot of cool aliens and concepts into live action and I feel like it understood how to feel like a true Star Wars show. I also loved the lightsaber fights they were really well done (would’ve liked to see more in the finale though)
I really like this more positive take, since it breathes fresh air when we all need it most, and considers things we often don’t think of at first. But I’m afraid that the brewing comment wildfire brings up some good points. Guess you have your next clip?
Seeing Vader looked way better than the shitty Acolyte version… I was even let down by Jedi Survivor’s version
Got to honest, seeing the change was cool, but saying the reason it happened so fast was cause she apparently was touching the crystal feels like a cop out explanation
It isn't really a cop-out when that is the established canon. The times we see bleeding, characters either touch it directly with their hands, or focusing the force directly on it.
@@garbotoxins840 yes but in the examples prior, the process to cause the crystals to change took a longer time while also requiring more focus to actively change it rather then seeming accidental
I liked Jedi Survivor explosive change more, but still was cool.
Stop praising this show it’s crap
Thought you had to hold the crystal to make it bleed.
Master Clips - do you honestly think she had enough darkside energy to do that so young and untrained - her eyes were not even turned sith ?!
IT IS NOT HOW KYBER CRYSTAL BLEEDING SHOULD WORK IT SHOULD BE A CHOICE
So stupid. Looks stupid and the idea is stupid. The only thing I've seen that was cool, is the metal that shuts down lightsabers. And that comes from the real EU.
I was kind of disappointed with the effect it just made me think of those toy lightsabers from saberforge for the price of the show I would have expected more
Kinda odd Osha become Mae and mea become oshe
It's because they are the same person, represented in two people
@HowardLogan-gv5kc I know that. I saying they switched positions in a way.
I prefer the Jedi Survivor/Vader Comics version. Far mor visceral and sudden that way.
It wasn't slow but gradual. It was slow but with stutters and insecurity. Yes she's turning, but she isn't so sure of if it's really the right thing.
Cue Anakin comment. I know it's semantics but it's a dumb retcon.
This series had many great ideas. Too bad the execution was horrible.
MY THOUGHTS TOO!
This show is garbage please fire her
Anakin destroyed the youngling assaults in padme and fatally injured her. He slaughtered the droid leadership and the bug people. His saber doesn’t change. One girl scream bleeding an in use crystal is disgusting.
There’s certain things that work tho.Jedi Survivor is understandable and makes sense,Cartoon one had a whole different lore.But this is the same universe as anakin no? So how was anakin’s saber never gradually turned red? I don’t watch the accolyte so idk if there’s lore there.The only thing i saw and liked is the combat
It would have been nice if se saw sith eyes after she killed Master Sol. Also I knew it was going to happen but I felt bad for Sol.
I liked that in the end, he couldn't fully admit his failings. He killed their mother in fear, but even now he has to believe he did the right thing, no matter how wrong it was. He became like the opposite of Torbin.
Love this guy trying to pretend that the acolyte was actually a good show. Sad how hard people fight for a billion dollar company that actively hates them
Was it cool, yes. Does it make sense, no. How does Osha know how to bleed a crystal? She didn’t even complete her Jedi training. Vader needed Palatine to tell him how to bleed the Kyler crystal, and it was a torturous process. But I guess Osha can just kill one guy and that’s it
She didn't know how to bleed a crystal, but the lightsaber was cracked open, and she was touching it as she killed her master and father figure. If Luke had killed Vader while holding a crystal, it too would have bled. I think the same would have happened if Anakin killed Obi-wan while holding a crystal.
I still wish this SW element was a Legends thing first. Would kill to make it so via time travel, reality warping, or something.
And even then, a shame this live action first is in an inevitably damned show by terms of future critical acclaim. Remember, RoboCop 2 did a kind of CGI first by way of using a certain villain's head for a figure interface in the endgame, but alas, it just wasn't a great film all while said effects are noticeably dated, so the achievement feels worthless.
That is not how you bleed a crystal. Nope.
Disney Star Wars is not canon.
Yes it is. Cope with it.
Bleeding the crystal as a concept was created by Disney do u even know what you're talking about. The red crystals used to be made in a lab
Nah red crystals are synthetic. The whole idea of bleeding the crystal is lame and it's just Disney's own rewrite of the lore.
Her had is touching the crystal. You all need to drop that anakin should have a red saber bs.
I totally missed a certain cameo because I was busy cancelling my Disney+ subscription.
Convinced at this point that cloudmaster182 is actually Leslye Headland using a burner account.
While the finale obviously sets up Season Two, I sincerely hope that never happens
it seems like they have absolutely nothing to say in these series
Lightsaber mood ring vibes and it was just so bad
How much you getting paid?
It was to fast for that bit of hate we saa more than one jedi killing in rage without colour chance, but i have missedit in theanimatio
Ass show, when sol jumped off the balcony backwards and they were both floating I knew there couldn’t be anymore defending this show. Absolutely tragic
Ughhhhh... I didn't see it for Anakin so it doesn't hit like it should here.
I guess this is pretty cool? But the writing and storytelling is still the worst imho. Doesnt mean that anyone here has to agree with me, but this show redcon'd so much man...
It didn't retcon anything. That's the whole point of having legends and canon. So they don't have to contradict each other
😐 all i have to say is
I wish I never knew this knowledge about this scene! Star Wars is completely ruined
I laughed out loud during that scene. This show was so ridiculously stupid.
Like i don’t care about George Lucas’s Star Wars, this entire series and era of star wars is devoid of any true quality content, period point blank. eckharts attempting to defend the series is laughable at the least and warrants a unsubscribe.
What took Vader personally slaughtering many his friends, the order that took him in & even the school of padawans osha did straight after her first kill/betrayal.
Ok 👍🏼🤐😂
Vader didn’t care about bleeding his crystal, just achieving his goals.
Osha did it on accident because the saber’s hilt was broken exposing the crystal for her to make
"direct contact" with it.
Vader had no Hate against the Jedi he has killed, he thought it was necessary to save padme which he justified with it. Osha was full with sadness and hate as she was killing the person she always trusted after finding out he lied to her for over half her life. There is a clear difference
hate this
lets just jam fan service into the show that is 98% shitting on it's fanbase. pathetic
Other way around. It's the prequels all over again
Legends/EU is True Canon and 1,000 times better.
Hurry up and make Better Star Wars Animated Movies and Series Based on Famous Legends/EU characters and stories separate from garbage Dave Filoni Elseworld Universe for Star Wars could also have Multiverse and Elseworlds.