NEW UK Drone Rules COMING! Everything is about to change?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Hey Everyone! For some time now, we have been discussing a VITAL public consultation regarding every aspect of how we fly our drones and model aircraft in the UK. Well, the process has now started with the UK CAA posing 18 key questions to us all to help form what will be their recommendations for comprehensive changes to all aspects of drone use in the UK. Tonight, Sean will breakdown the key elements and explain how to put your views across to the CAA. This is a vital stage in deciding the conversation, so come along and get involved!
Link to call for input:
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The document itself:
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Where to submit your responses:
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Can we get a summary of this somewhere please? Try to catch the full videos when I can, but the livestreams are often a little too long for me now, would really appreciate a 10 min summary video of these changes if possible 🙏🏻
I find it amazing that in the UK Authorities are going to such lengths to control hobbyists flying drones and model aircraft when, as far as I’m aware, there have been no accidents or fatalities related to such activities, yet we don’t licence dogs or require any sort of test for dog owners despite regular issues of dog attacks, not to mention dog welfare
Ultimately the end game is to prevent you from having the capability of monitoring and recording evidence of the states activities in a way that they cannot prevent/control and that could be used to publicly hold them to account. The whole manned flight safety excuse is just that - as many have pointed out there’s very little solid evidence of drones and RC aircraft coming into conflict with manned aircraft. Most pilot reports of drones could actually be anything - birds, balloons, you name it - ‘drones’ are just the default label for anything unidentified these days.
Simple reason: there are a lot more dog owners than drone owners, and dogs are man's best friend. Pressure of public opinion, in other words.
You can put cyclists in that category 😮😮😮😢😢😢
Exactly,they don't want public spying incase somebody discovers something I fly my drones where and when I want at what weight I want,as long has I don't hit anybody or property ,fuck em all, sort the criminals out first,not us.
two words drone deliveries
Thanks caa … you just put me off registering anything for good now ….
I've already responded. Important to do so, I think, even though you can only answer the specific questions they ask.
I think it's optimistic to assume these are just ideas that might go nowhere. The ideas show the way they are thinking and moving, and my assumption is that they are the direction of travel unless either there is significant pushback, or they prove to be practically unfeasible.
Being somewhat cynical about the exercise, I suspect it is damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you don't respond they can say "we asked, you weren't interested", if you do respond, most likely it has little effect, some token changes, maybe. I suppose we are a sort of stakeholder - more like a twig holder, maybe.
'Safe and secure by design' sounds like possible certification - and consequent restriction on home build.
Not meeting evolving safety and security risks might also tie in with looking at the sub 250g divide. They clearly think too many have hidden away in the sub 250g thicket.
Remote ID and/or geo-awareness for sub-250g, which look increasingly likely, will kill the whole thing for me. Unintended consequences? Pretty intended, I think.
I suspect the model RC part will simply break out old style fixed wing flyers, not any drones - camera, racing or freestyle. This is quite a neat political manoeuvre as it removes complaints and pressure from the original fixed wing flyers, who go back to how they were.
Xjet's point about unneeded regulation is good, life cannot be made completely safe and secure, it never will be. Trying to make it so just creates a straitjacket.
"Don't allow the bad side of things to inform your choice about everybody". Good sentiment - but the CAA do.
What gets me about all this is that the CAA come up with this humongous set of controlling regulations, which encompasses everything from a tiny whoop right up to potential unmanned delivery and passenger transport, and all those controls which may be quite necessary at the top end propagate right down to the bottom in a totally overbearing way. They have no concept or interest in that at the bottom this is a simple and enjoyable hobby, no more risky (not risk free) than cycling, football or golf - which seem to manage without all this, and that they are killing it. Currently I cannot even fly my 25g AUW FPV whoop in my garden without a spotter. Ridiculous. The CAA have been given the whole toy set to play with, and not surprisingly without any real oversight, they've gone totally over the top. Bureaucracy at its worst. The hobby should be completely taken away from them and given a protected niche of its own - but it won't be.
Can you do a 5 min vid to summarise all the points please
Could you do a very short video to summerise?
Never fails to amaze me the detail you go into. Class as always buddy
Could you do shorter videos, perhaps and additional video just summarising in less than a minute. Its a lot to take in but would like to get the gist.
Hey! Some topics take a little longer. We do have plenty of shows which cover a range of topics within 10/15mins but sometimes it needs longer. In terms of this one, we are breaking down the smaller areas into other shows.
I do get your point maybe chapters would be a good idea, for instance I have a mini 3 pro and would like to see what applies to me. With the greatest respect videos are full of info and on point.
Lets be honest here, for all the effort we put into these 'consultations', they've already decided what they're going to do anyway but have to appear to go through the 'public consultation' thing just to follow due process.
They clearly haven't got the resources or time to go through hundreds of thousands of responses, they might pick out a handful of random replies at best, the vast majority will go straight in the bin! ⚠️😲😳
Just like a place I used to work, they had to advertise a position, even though it had already been filled by someone within the company, they had to follow procedure.
So I remember my manager with a pile of applications and CVs just laughing as he tossed them all in the bin, including one very impressive leather bound CV with the applicants initials in gold leaf embossed on the front, he didn't even look inside! 😲🤔
You are right, but if no-one responds it's an own goal. They can just say "well, we asked, you weren't interested".
@@edcbabc They haven't listened to our previous responses, so what's the point. 🤔
There was an overwhelming opposition to registration and DEMARES but it all still went through regardless.
We used to have the sub 250g category classed as exempt for registration, then they suddenly changed it to, 'if it has a camera it has to be registered', which is pretty much every drone!
They'll continue to chip away at our ability to fly and make it increasingly difficult to comply.
RID will be the final nail and they will ultimately be heading towards a pay per flight or monthly subscription based model to fly and access the RID network.
If we had all stuck together and opposed registration in the first place, we wouldn't be here now, it would have sent then a firm and resounding 'NO!'
This all came out of the 'Gatwick incident', the drone that never was, despite not one shread of evidence to this day that a drone was involved, the authorities still pushed forward with their registration agenda.
Even the police reported, after a thorough and extensive investigation, they felt it was 'an inside job and they suspected there never was a drone involved.'
This was quickly retracted as a 'mistake', by a red faced government response.
The fact that other airports around that time were going through disruptions to air traffic systems, I suspect there was some other security or systems upgrade going on they had to cover up with a distraction, plus Gatwick was up for sale, maybe that was connected?
Who knows but I'm fairly certain a drone was never the issue.
@@pdtech4524 You are right, but if you reply they might (OK, unlikely) listen, if you don't, they 100% won't.
@@edcbabc That's what the guy who sent in the leather bound CV with his initials in gold leaf on the cover thought......😳😲😁
I'm old and cynical, seen it all before and basing my opinion on experience.
This is just how these kind of government influenced departments operate.
Pretty much like how everyone over in the USA were all opposed to the RID thing when the FAA put out a similar 'consultation', they still pushed ahead with it regardless.😳
@@pdtech4524 I know, but if the choice is the difference between tiny chance and no chance, I'll pick tiny chance, that's all.
It’s interesting to compare the regulation of UAVs in the UK with the active regulation of electric scooters and bikes capable of 15+ mph speeds. There’s a glaring difference between them. Are we worrying overly about the changes which may or may not be binding us in our hobby.
I can give you a list things we all enjoy doing BUT, the government has been targeting nearly everything we love doing for recreation such hobbies as electric shooters, e-bikes, hoverboard, canoeing/boats on rivers and canals airguns, petrol go-peds , Segways vehicles, Amateur radio, Pirate Radio stations, Public demonstration and marches the list goes on. Now these politicians target drones what next personally owned Robots?
You could argue that people have been killed and injured by and on e-bikes and scooters and I see lots of kids on them without lights at night and without helmets. Drones on the other hand - anyone been killed by one (not operated by the military)? I think the CAA risk level and "what if this happens" level is too high compared to other aspects of activities in society.
Are CAA really bothered what we think? Are they actively wanting our opinions. They don't seem to have a campaign. I'm registered for Op and Flyer IDs, where my email telling me about this? Are they promoting this on their website? We know about David, Sam and Billy's Mom on twitter, but have they mentioned this on twitter. Very poor CAA, very poor.
I was asking myself the same question :/ Why hasn't every registered user had an email with links to these CAA pages? Almost as if they would rather not have too much feedback. Just the perception they're putting out. And if it's going to take half a day to read through and answer the document and form they're not likely to get much feedback. I tried saving the form and got an error and lost my completed pages. Taking the ....
It feels like a "box ticking" exercise where they already have the key decisions made around what they want this to look like. Seems unlikely that any individual feedback from a drone hobbyist will hold any weight. However, we should resist divergence from what they currently do, and allow, in the EU. In this case, alignment is a positive thing. Also, will no doubt include increased powers for the police to identify and issue FPN to drone users. Remote ID should also be resisted. The very small number of incidents of illegal drone use is being used as an excuse for mass oversight of law-abiding hobbyists.
I got a Dji mini 249 gr and a Happymodel bassline hdzero 46 gr and a tiny whoop hdzero 24 gr. I want to see if there smart enough to not put them in the same category. Thanks to remote id in America. People are flying a lot of tiny whoops 1s everywhere.
I don't mind rules but there is a clear pattern going on in this country and that's the system is reaching far too much on the freedom's of those who follow the rules and work to afford nice things then tax them through further by laws..
Instead of punishing those who just want to go out and safely fly. Why are they not investing their time in more meaningful ways such as building more houses, cleaning the streets, improving our hospitals....
No they rather target those who already paid tax multiple times with more tax and rules..
Thank you for taking the time to wade thru all the details and explain it to everyone. Normally I am more critical but this time, I appreciate your efforts in this video.
Drip-drip-drip goes the rights you thought you had, and the enjoyable activities that used to be normal. In a democracy, the rules should be clear and narrow... Face accountability if you hurt someone or damage their property.
Remote ID should be available to law enforcement not joe public with an app.
Agree BUT only If there Is reasonable evidence that a crime has been committed .The police should NOT be given our details on a whim. They do not have the right for details now if there is no crime, remote ID should not erode our rights and would constitute a data protection breach at the moment if supplied. The CAA will have a responsibility to ensure the correct use of our details as data handlers.
Shouldn't be there at all.
@ThatMicro43Guy it's only like driving around with number plates on your car - what's wrong with that? Police don't need to think a crime/offence has been committed to know who the car is registered to. Don't necessarily know the driver, same way you can't guarantee the RP from RID, but it's a start for an investigation should something go wrong. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Joe public shouldn't. With cars you can check tax and Mot etc, imagine if you could find out more, like names and addresses! It would be chaos!
@@mesjakeon6013 it's definitely not like a numberplate. The operator ID we put on our drones is our numberplate! Remote ID would be like having a GPS on your car that constantly uploads your location to a government database whenever you drive your car so that you can be tracked, and the history of where you went is all recorded. Not only that but anyone from the public can open an app and see the location and details about any car and driver around them, including ones on private land. That is exactly what the CAA is proposing
@@mesjakeon6013 I think there's plenty wrong with that.
(1) cars have a long tradition of killing and injuring a lot of people each year, drones don't. (2) If I have private space, and choose to run my car there, I don't need a registration plate, drones will. (3) I don't like the cost, weight and size on a small drone. (4) I don't like broadcasting my location to anyone who might decide to find me. (5) I don't want my hobby flying logged on some government database.
It's about proportionality, and there isn't any here. It's overreach, we can so we will.
But, if you think it's the public spirited thing to do, why wait? Get yourself a US module (the final spec will probably be the same), fit it and broadcast away. There are apps around that can decode it. Go for it.
Thank you for taking the time to go through this very important document Sean. However, Somewhat confused by your comment about geofencing, as what is being suggested already exists for DJI drones. My DJI drones already prevent me flying into areas restricted by the geofencing. I work in areas where there are a lot and have regularly had the drone both warn me, and stop in the air. I know DJI appears to be the only drone company at the moment with this but that’s what most of us fly!
Hey Brian! The DJI geofence is something they created and although it is a good attempt, if you like that kind of thing, it is not built to the official maps and instead uses their own version. This means it is not always accurate. Any version created under a regulation would need to be highly accurate of course.
@@Geeksvana thanks for the reply Sean, yes that does make sense. We have an aerodrome close to us that has a full NFZ but isn’t shown on the DJI maps.
Thank you Sean 👍👍. You really help sieve the detail from the white noise for me 👍👍👍
I guess next they will implement a ruling your drone will have to be taxed to use the open airspace and MOT certification
yeah I feel the same here in USA.. like the Radio waves ..
i knew remote id would be coming from across the pond. I feel sick tbh.
That’s a bada$$ title sequence soundtrack - love it!!!
Most of us probably renew our operator id at the end of the year so we should all refuse to renew until they stop all this nonsense about remote id and security concerns. The CAA didn't inform us directly about this consultation even though they've got all our contact information. It's just a hobby pastime for goodness sake. Someone should start a campaign called "Renewal Refusal".
You've touched on WHY they forced the Registration.
Jeepers that CAA feedback request has taken me nearly four hours to read and fill in! No wonder it was such a long video / livestream. 🤓
I need to read the consultation document, more specifically how this will affect normal fixed wing model aircraft (Not FPV) but over 250g, I live in a rural but tourist area (Norfolk Broads), personally I am not bothered about the occasional drone being used to take video over the waterways. Remote ID is not ridiculous but a WiFi or cellular bearer is not ideal in many areas.
Like many other legislative moves, it is a blunt knife, anyone with malicious intent will be able to disable geo fencing or remote ID. As for the safety test on boot-up, it is a little ridiculous in a world where you can jump into a car and just turn the key and go. A lot of damage to the hobby has been done by "auditors" who may be acting within the law but have caused a lot of complaints to be made.
I've now spent 4 hours of my time trying to understand the questions and responding accordingly..... no such luck ..... deleted what i thought as the response i gave didnt really seem to answer the question they were asking after referring back to the maain document. I'll have to watch this video again!!
I only want to take pictures with my drone, it.s never worth it. all this stuff is over the top and crazy, time to sell
Don't sell, just ignore them and carry on as normal.
Do you think the safety aspect should include whether your drone has obstacle avoidance and how much it's got as I think ones that have got it are safer than ones that don't have it especially for beginners to the hobby as long as it's switched on of course
How would the remote ID system connect to the internet? Not I hope using our mobile phones! We aren't all on unlimited data contracts or want them. I'm on PAYG with a limited bundle of data each month, which would be used up in he first 10 minutes of flight time!! Or have I missed something here :/
As a filmmaker I am seeing less need for drones - I think people are getting over the craze possibly ?
We can give as much feedback as we want but it’ll fall on deaf ears, these consultations are nothing more than box ticking exercises to follow the law, asking us for our feedback is just a way to make us feel involved which is utter crap. I worked in local government 35 years ago and this crap won’t on back then and hasn’t changed.
Someone I know gave the CAA feedback at the original drone workshops nearly a decade ago, and every bit of feedback they got that day was ignored, they’d already made their minds up on what they were doing.
Just look at what TFL has done over the ULEZ, covered up information, lied and ignored feedback from the public and pushed on regardless.
hi his there anything on the minis i have the mini dji 3 its bafling to me i am 79 years can i fly out of my garden john nottingham
Sean hope your well as can be great as always giving us the lowdown on this topic and many others 👍 I remember when we did that survey for legacy drones from memory 95% of use filled out that survey and the CAA agreed with us🙂 This changing of more rules and legislation is just confusing many potential drone flyers😟 Personally I don't like the idea of remote id?
Why is there literally no consideration for self build drones? This includes everyone who builds model planes and flies in a field, where the industry started from, and where most of the innovation comes from!
Great stream that I have only just caught up on. I feel remote ID is inevitable, the government clearly see the commerciisation of the airspace currently occupied by hobbiest drones as a priority. It is driven by the recognition that commercial stakeholders (Amazon/DPD/UPS) will be willing to pay for access to drone airspace or corridors. It will be a big earner for HM Gov. Given the rate of development re drone delivery technology I (like many) feel more restrictions on when & where we fly are inevitable. I would like to be a bit more optimistic but from the questions the CAA are asking it certainly looks like the hobby (in its current form) only has 3-5 years max. Thanks for the information and I guess you better start looking to start another channel.😉 Geeksstampcollectingvana? 😂😂😂Cheers. SAA
If every Quadcopter needs a c mark. They're taking a big part away from Quadcopters And a hobby. No more building what copies yourself. I don't want to buy another dji drone. I rather build it myself.😢
Indeed!. I don't have a commercially produced quad. My interest is in the development of my own models etc. For example I have a quad-plane that is designed around a 1.6m motor glider and a home-brew H-frame.
Soon they will stop you doing anything but if you're willing to go along with that, no problems.
Hello all, considering the current state of affairs is it worth getting a drone in 2023?
I mainly intend to video hiking, climbing and camping but it seems all the national parks and open spaces all have byelaws restricting all drones from flying?
IF it was a security risk they would have Amazon stuck on the side AND clone their Remote I.D...
Are the CAA Stats for quad drones only or are model aircraft included, there is a subtle difference?
Are the new regs covering up other rules, that maybe implemented though the back door.?
Sssi locations should have certain colours, ones that don't affect drone, like you said in a previous video rock formations, and a different colour for do not fly because it could affect wildlife. I had no intention connection the other day and couldn't check the sssi site. Having different colours might help a bit. I have my fligher id even though i only have a DJI mini 3 pro. Ive only been flying for just over a week. Alot to take in. Im not a fan of being tracked by public for having a fly camera. Doing nothing but enjoying a brilliant new hobby. Imagine your flying and a crime happens some where close to you, would be be blamed for helping with that crime through doing surveillance for that crime to take place.
Q , can drone delivery operators fly beyond line of sight , if they can why cant we ? Valid question i'm sure many would like the answer
Drone delivery flights will happen in the Certified category. So those aircraft will be much closer in terms of approvals and checks to full manned aviation. Also, the training and qualifications for the pilots will be much higher, closer again to full aviation.
Similar to the difference between riding a moped to running a HGV haulage business. Drone delivery companies will essentially be airlines.
No. In my opinion it has a lot more to do with the regulator and government having no clue drones etc would be so popular. Then overreacting by thinking harsh rules are needed.
What also feeds it is the lack of compliance. Sadly, the common held thought that if we don't comply will stop the regs just doesn't work. All they do is add even more regs. And we end up in the circle we have now.
But I do not think this is clearing the skies for drone delivery. The sky is already available enough for them.
Geeksvana should go and do a Collab with DJ and try out some auditing with him.
DJ can't Audit a paper bag
@@Gkofilms
thats why is so populair unlike you
This is a ridiculously complex survey, honestly!!!, The CAA are going way beyond their mandate in terms of privacy 1) I think they are responding with restrictions based on privacy concerns from the public and not safety. How many sub 250g have injured the public or been flown recklessly? the legislation needs to respond to real world need for legislation. Remote ID you have a fundamental right to privacy, an enforcement officer does not have the right to your ID unless there is reasonable suspicion of a crime. There needs to be control of access to this data
LOL UK g0vt don't care about the people, it's opportunity to rake in more tax monies , just like in the U$, eventually, you'd have to pay just to take a walk, you will have pay to drive into L0ndon. Capital!sm the best system in the world.
I can honestly see companies losing products out of the air from people shooting them down looting them for there content. When they're being delivered by a person no one's going to rob the ups or USPS driver for Amazon packages but in a drone who's really watching them? Even if they have a camera on them it still won't help finding the people that looted the drones and companies will have to rely on physical drivers to deliver packages to the customers. I don't see drone deliveries ever panning out. Even with flying taxi's when something goes wrong and fall out of the sky to their death it's never going to work. Nice ideas but not plausible. We have satellite trash in space and now we're trying to put more trash in our airspace for money, on top of all the air traffic we have today.
The authorities are terrified of drones after seeing what they are capable of from the Ukraine conflict.
Exactly this mate, people don’t talk about because they know it will be the END of us all flying, it’s coming without a doubt- of that I’m certain 👍
Not really. Let's face it most people use drones for photography .our average 30 minute flight is a huge difference to military drones . basically hobby drones are no different from a camera .many photographers now have drones
@@michaelbuglass5764 Not really? Where has your head been buried for the last two years? The Ukrainians are using low cost every day commercially availble drones to bomb the crap out of the Russians. Not to mention the surveilance they have been providing.
There's nothing really stopping you entering the "incorrect" remote ID details on your device - Or actually making one up.
So malicious actors will not comply with it really.. so pointless.
or feeding the device with 1 volt instead of 3,7, wrap it in tinfoil ,switchable from your remote just flick it on if a copper appears the list goes on where ever there is tech there will always be counter tech a couple of weeks later, just keep flying people and don't let this type of nudge propaganda video put you off !which by the way seem to crop up when you watch drone videos ...........wonder why
If they implement remote ID, who is going to pay for this? As I sure as hell can't afford it, I'm unemployed and it's going to kill my hobby that I enjoy.
Amazon and the like will buy the airspace below 400ft, thus .aking it illegal for the public to fly their drones. 😢
Buy it from who? I'm not selling my 500ft of airspace to anyone
@@davidgavin7280they will offer like a trillion
hi as a new drone user, I would like to give my input on this document, but have not used my drone sufficiently or read all current legislation enough to ensure I am able to give constructive views, should I attempt to give my views or not. Having watched a few of DJ Audits videos I can understand one of the main reasons for this cosultation, if people would use common sense regarding where we fly and how we react to anyone cocerned about why we are flying over beautiful landscapes and vdeoing the beauty of our country, and not taking the view that we are on public ground and are within the law. FLYING ON PUBLIC GROUND AND USING A CAMERA WITH ZOOM FILMING PRISONS ETC IS ONLY ASKING FOR REGULATIONS TO BE AMENDED.
I'm a registered operator with my DJI mini. I pay my fees like a responsible owner and always consider my surroundings when flying. I use the drone assist app to help me decide where to fly. Then you see people on You Tube (so called auditors) flouting any rules and more often than not fly in areas they are not supposed to. Even when they advertise their eploits on line, you never see or hear of any action taken against them from the authorities. Unless they start enforcing the current laws and rules, then adding more seems pointless and only makes drone flying more difficult for the law abiding among us. Why does it have to be Geeksvana who keeps other drone pilots up to date. Why has NATS not told us all via email which can be monitored so they can see the user has read it. Thanks Geeksvana for keeping us in the loop.
You need to update yourself on the law. You are TOTALLY wrong. With a 249 gram (or lighter) drone you can land on the head of a police officer if you want to.
@@swedishpsychopath8795you liked your own comment! 😅 almost psychopathic 😂 👍
@@bugsy742 How did u know?
please give details of these videos on youtube????
@@swedishpsychopath8795 🤣🤝 glad you got the joke mate
All these rules are so overwhelming, it’s got to the point where I don’t want to fly my drone anymore through fear of being arrested and maybe prison.
It doesn't happen. that would be if your using it for terrorism or to cause harm,drone laws have been on UA-cam and online so much its scared people,be responsible and respect people and property etc,you'll be fine I fly heavy drones and small and as long as you sensible carry on,some of these people on UA-cam have lost the plot your not supposed to use phone while driving but doesn't stop many etc etc
The whole thing is pretty useless. Aimed to control “illegal” flights, active (within the UAS) and passively (by rules & regulations). My point, a malicious actor will ignore the rules or strip any drone of these built in controls or build a basic delivery system. Building a basic multi rotor drone is hardly rocket science. Let's face it, the cats out of the bag and all this scrambling around by authorities to control malicious actors is futile. It only succeeds in penalising the innocent of us who have been using the airspace safely over decades. Thousands of rules and regulations will only ever effect those of us who are trying to continue as responsible persons.
Seems backwards logic.
They don't need to adapt drones, there are 100s of thousands of drones that currently exist without RID. At least I'll have a market to sell mine as I for one certainly won't fly again if it means my locations is available to anybody that cares to look.
there is only 1 thing that matters, tax, soon you'd have to pay a tax for all hobbies, capital!sm the best system in the world.....extract money from the p00r.
So-called ‘auditors’ are destroying the hobby. That’s a challenge that needs to be addressed before all flyers get penalised for the irresponsible actions of a few.
Auditors are dickheads.
just go rouge now 🤣🤣🤣
AI and Google earth will eventually make drones obsolete!!