Elden Ring: Is Swift Slash Still Overpowered After The Recent Nerf?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Invasions testing out how powerful swift slash is after it was nerfed in the recent patch
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I live in Texas- walked into a store today and no lie, you were on all 3 TVs in the store invading lol All the guys there were huge fans of you man- never thought I’d see such a thing.
what kind of store was it? that's awesome
@@gamedjinni9543it was a smoke shop lol
that's sick lol, I think I'd get a bit of whiplash if I saw that
my jaw would hit the floor dude thats awesome
thats honestly the coolest thing ever! thanks for sharing that man! I appreciate all kindness the community has shared with me over the years
There are only two types of Fromsoft nerfs
1. "Range on the third hit reduced by 1.5 pixels, added hyper armor to compensate"
2. "Base damage reduced by 97%, added 500 recovery frames, using this skill will now personally alert Miyazaki to come to your house and torsion your testicles."
How they nerfed bloodhound step was fucking tragic. Fp nerf would've been fine, multiple uses having more delay and more fp costs, fine. But bruh, that range nerf was fucking brutal and basically entirely killed the ash of war.
@@IntimacyMNbro bhs is not dead, literally every knowledgeable invader runs bhs soft swap.
BHS nerfed into ground - not even usable to cross swamp areas (which was really practical and now have to trudge through those awful sections of the game)
The new blinkbolt ash may help though
bhs is balanced now, it was insanely broken on release. The only people who have trouble using it after patch were people who used it as a crutch before the patch.
Imagine getting invaded by Chase but it’s Swift Slash review day
POV:your boss wants to talk to you
"I need you to do something."
-(talking to client? Bigger project?)
"To leave this company"
I remember a similar comment on the moonveil showcase.😂
No skill is what that ash of war shows
TL;DR: “Yes, it’s still overpowered”
condolences to the poor souls fighting a swift slash chase
Condolences to the poor souls fighting a -swift slash- chase
Fixed that for you
@@Popmycherryyo Real, they wouldn't even stand a chance against bare-fist chase.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3i mean... im positive someone with st. Trina's torch might stand a chance
2:36 The phantom casually hiding behind the bridge column trying to avoid being killed. 😂
“He can’t see me if I don’t move.”
@@williamhenning4700 🤣 True.
You lived long enough to become the villain
Elden Ring : Is Nanaya's Torch still overpowered after the recent nerf?
Unironically no, the deathblight bug got fixed
If it hits right it can madness almost immediately, so I'd say it's still pretty good
@@Wraggle3000 if you lock on it hits right, since it tracks
@@KogasaTatara514but the madness build up is still a lot
@@KogasaTatara514fake news. Even with max focus I get madness'd twice in a single health bar during duels. It's absurdly broken.
Guy who sneaked attacked was crouched in the bush next to you, you could see his bubble buff to your left
I don't actually think that was him because the guy DIDN'T have a buff of any sort on (that's easily visible like bubble) when he attacked chase. what I thought was a bubble was actually one of the ghost graves in that area. I THINK the guy was actually mimic veiled cuz no matter how I look I can't see where he was and I could swear I hear the sound of it dissipating before chase gets attacked.
Ye, it's still OP, I think it needs a fundamental overhaul.
(Latency makes it an even bigger chore to play against more-so than other things)
Agreed. You literally either trade into it with good spacing or you're just not doing anything and taking chip. Very easy to be permanently on the back foot.
You didn’t use it at its full potential after nerf. You can put it on bleed and soft cap arcane, if you hit them with both parts of the ash of war you will almost always proc bleed, which completely negates the poise damage nerf since no amount of poise prevents the bleed flinch. If you count the damage from the bleed proc, plus you run varres mask and lord of bloods exultation instead of the sword insignia, you can also completely negate the damage nerf. Yep, this ash is still absolutely ridiculous and broken.
Ive noticed chase values just straight up physical AR above all else.
Yeah the new weapons didn't get the powerstance status nerf so they all apply status super fast. They also didn't get the poise dmg buff but that doesn't matter when you bleed/frost in 1-2 hits.
Funny how the highest damage potential on this setup is also the safest. Something is clearly broken if there is not a single downside. Imo it has too much range, damage, status buildup, and too little recovery time.
i summoned some invader named eat my nuts thinking i’m hot shit and bro bleed me in every hit of the ash, it would miss me and still build up bleed too from the after slashes so op😪
I think chase's build being unoptimized for damage is the point. Even when you aren't using bleed or frost buildup, swift slash is still op in comparison to other reasonably powerful ashes.
That ash is fundamentally broken, a simple damage nerf was barely a slap on the wrist
@@Laxcaden it's a crutch my guy 1v3s were possible prepatch and they still are without skill slash
@@Laxcadenhard disagree with your opinion. Hardcore pvp players will probably get uses to it but your average player will not. It has way to much of an advantage with little to no downside.
Needs poise damage neef(again), reduced poise, more recovery time, less buildup, and more stamina cost.
They should make it parryable lmao
@@Laxcaden if you want to chase down the kill just use the running light attacks on the backhand blades. you literally keep moving after the attack ends. it's the single best chase tool in the game
you are literally relying on this skill as a crutch to solve a problem the weapon class itself has a built-in solution for. there's no excuse
Formal petition for Chase to become the finger enforcer using the finger weapons.
Try finger but hole
His videos is my daily things before going to sleep lately, wouldn't have it any other way. This guy just enjoys his life way too much
Same!
Honestly Blind Spot is more OP now, I-Frame dodge like BHS with an attack afterwards, which is also Pierce Damage to make it do even more damage since it's so fast it will hit the enemy while they're still attacking you
they're both still completely busted.
You also need a modicem of skill to use blind spot, ran into someone spamming it and they landed 3 of the 8 attacks they tried
@@ferro9926 no you don't literally watched someone use his forehead to press L2 to win a duel using blinspot
I swear someone was literally trying to fight tooth and nail to say blindspot is balanced. I'm thinking to myself have you played the game
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT that's more telling of how shit their opponent was lol
Imagine you finally get a chance to fight Chase and it's swift slash day...
The sniper balls in the fissure makes me feel like I have my own little spam wizard in the back
Igon Harpoon or bow and shout in fake rage most of the video. "HOOOOOOOST I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN GANK, WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS!"
Ansbach's Longbow next, it`s been a while since chasethebow
i love that thing so much i pray they dont nerf the only good bow
@@exq884 It will 100 percent get nerfed it's fundamentally not working as intended. They will probably nerf it to a point where it will be like every other bow in the game tbh which are all pretty damn bad.
I hope it gets nerfed so bad, mfrs will see a fanning projectile that is guaranteed to hit for 8 arrows worth of damage and say it's fine, bro if you wanna play a low skill projectile spammer make an int build
@@leonardo9259 lol cry harder kid.
"That was wholesome,
for us. 😎"
-ChasetheBro 2024
You may try the Lizard Greatsword, It's a Claymore with a ranged heavy.
Havent watched the video yet and I already know it’s about to be a blood bath
😂😂
the death knight twin axes are quite fun with their unique ash, they lack hyper armor between the blink and spin but ironjar may solve that? the ash also procs multihit talismans and can do some substantial damage. Would be a neat build to see! maybe some form of "dash" build with revenger's blade, swift strike, and blinkbolt?
Nice idea for the iron jar!
That guy went and stood in the corner😂
Chase, love the vids! I’d love to see how your wizard build has evolved with the new spells added! Next vid on that maybe???
Look forward to your daily uploads greatly brothechase. Ty for the good content ❤️
I can't wait for you to try the Gazing Finger in one of your videos. Just found it yesterday and it's so much fun!
I was the invader at 18 mins in! I’ve been watching you for years and decided to do my first invasions that day, didn’t even realize my swift slash savior was my favorite ER player. Was surreal hearing you say my name haha. Glad I made it to a video! Cheers Chase!
Very nice vid chase, this ash is going strong especially on a bleed archane build it procs bleed so fast.
Best part of my day when chase posts love the videos bro 🙏
Oof pair that with the non-existent running r1 recovery frame is terrifying
The short answer is yes, it’s still OP
Your vids are like therapy Chase. Every time I’m bored or just wanna watch something your vids always come in clutch 👍 thanks bro
Really wishes that there were more backhand blades man. There’s only 3 in total and two of them are fucking discs. Same with light greatsword…
I hope that whatever From makes next in the Souls vein starts with all these new weapon categories. I'd love to play with some new weapons in a first playthrough
Velvet sword of st Trina should've been a light greatsword instead of a near-identical copy of the regular trina sword
definitely the most OP pvp weapon to be released in Elden Ring (pre-nerf)
Yeah it was ridiculous. It still needs a rework or something.
And post nerf
Even considering that Moonveil used to one-shot?
Meh, we had the Glintstone Pebble Ash of War that true combo'd and did like 2700 damage in PvP on a well optimised build.
@@lharsay yes because you can dodge moonveil
Hoping you look into The Poison Flower Blooms Twice. Poison can get three attack buffs now thanks to the new poison hand weapon. Not sure ifvthey all stack but the aow is really strong. Just gotta hope the latency doesn't let the other players roll through the poison burst proc.
this can be crazy,bro,and great video
oh how I long for DS3-style multiplayer, wish it was in this game
No covenants and 4 player limit btw
4 player limit will kill the multiplayer in the long run, I think.
Hi Chase! Awesome video as always, bringing back all the painful memories of the invaders who’d spam this ash of war constantly. Can you perchance do a showcase for Prime Radahns Greatswords 🥴👌
The first couple invasions had Chase just walk up to each opponent and kill them almost instantly. I'd say the skill is still busted.
The third group fought competently, but all Chase had to do was spam Swift Slash and there was no way to counter it.
So my friend tried doing some coliseum duels and he just kept running into swift slash users, so in the patch notes when he saw it was getting nerfed he got excited, then I showed him this video lmao
Can't wait for you to try messmers orb I'm having so much fun with it (:
Duels and invasions!!! Please chase 🔥🔥🔥
Immaculate invasions today bro 🔥
So the answer is yes..
In my opinion the best way to balance an ash of war is by changing the FP consumption, i feel like you only should be able to use it 3 times if your mind level is 15-17 with the pre patch damage or something lower than that a bit. Because if they nerfed it to the ground nobody’s going to use it but if they increase the consumption it’s not going to be useless but more expensive to use so it’s going to be balanced
Honestly that’s a pretty solid idea.
With it's spammability, it should take more stamina rather than fp and I think that you recover far too fast from the ash because nobody can even land an attack on you if you use it
@@fadifarris4594 the same thing can be said about the damn glintstone magic shard. It’s easily spammable, tracks well and does crazy high damage. People pick 1 thing and complain about it meanwhile tons of other things go untouched/unnoticed like the new thorn spell
This kind of nerf only affects ‘meta’ level ranges though (125-150) when people are point pinching to reach soft caps. For players higher than 150 that nerf wouldn’t actually do anything since people wouldn’t have to skimp on mind.
@@fadifarris4594 yh totally agree u cant catch the user
It can be countered using the death axes ash of war. Just saw Lost do it in his recent video.
Nothing that does that much damage & range should be that spammable & unreactable at close range. Fundamentally broken & makes revengers blade feel honest
ChaseTheBro can you do a video on the sword lance its my favourite weapon for PvP. I love your videos so much btw
It would be interesting to see you try to use the stone-sheathed sword. I've only ever seen anyone talk about the sword of light or sword of dark, but stone-sheathed seems like a fairly good sword with square off and actually does strike damage. I've seen no one talk about just using the base stone-sheathed sword.
Chase I have a request/suggestion!! The Milady with cragblade has an insane two handed charged attack I think you would love. It face trades with just about any weapon and haw amazing stamina use for catching spam rolling! One of the most fun combos I've used in pvp
Amazing, something think, which erdtreeblossom you consum xD
I found a true death combo and you inspire me to it. Madding ash of war and the sword of night truecombo you show. Greyrolls roar is a hits everytime , even not chard messmer "rasengan". Thank you to inspire :)
Whenever me and my friends are screwing around together in ER and get invaded, the first thing we check is if the guy is using a backhand blade. If he is, we immediately assume its swift slash, pull out our own, then all spam it back at them.
Otherwise we just use other weaps.
You should definitely try the claws of night on a multi hit build! The ash works with multi hit talismans, and can stagger casters out of their incantation animations as well
id love to see the cursedblade's cirque the ash on it deadly dance looks amazing.
Bro Chase is the most wholesome and chill content creator
Try the banished knight halbred tooth whip ash true combo. Add all the posion attack scaling stuff and a weapon with scarlet blooms twice to finish them off, or if poison procks, it'll do just as much damage as the combo
The 1 time I see chasethebro using the same button constantly
I thought chase was gonna die to that ambush but then i realised "CHASE NEER DIES"
imagine the difference between noticing chase is invading your world with swift slash compared to st trinas torch
Can’t wait for that serpent sword video 🔥
dueling shield counters swift slash pretty well
Dmg was actually super low. 600 including slash and vacume is an underperformer. But general evasiveness and online punish window lag still makes it very good for that alone.
Thats 600 after Bro's normal consumable stacks. FYI raw dmg would be even worse.
Still completely broken tho
try this: vennomous fang poison flower blooms twice AoW, poisoned hand in the off hand, poison talisman mushroom crown talisman that improves kicks and divine bird greaves
I love using nanayas torch🔥 and madding hand on my mad knight build⚔️
Chase will you do some invasions with the Star Lined Sword? I love it in PVE I’d like to see what you can do with it invading.
Why is the ash of war art dude for this one cheeked?????
Bro look up wing stance the cake was being served in spades this dlc
He works out the glutes for optimal dashing.
Yo chase you should do a video with the Euphoria twinblade! It has a pretty interesting design behind it, and as a plus it looks cool
Have you looked at the Horned Warrior Greatsword? Its AoW looks like the Serpent Hunter during the Rykard fight.
So many things I've not seen yet; I love all these new toys...
hi Chase, hope you’re doing good today brother
Thiollier's needle? bring tarnished across the lands between the slumber they need.
brain is on flower power for some reason, so now I want to see builds with either festive grease (apparently increases physical AR a small amount?) and, of course, the mighty flower head itself, which might go well with your nemesis elden stars and that new flower incantation
i think it would be fun to see you use the radahn greatswords (lord) variant. they have hilarious ash of war built to 1v3
LOL, still looks pretty strong to me. Great stuff and really excited to see all the builds you're going to cook up with the DLC
Had a pvp fight with 2 people. Sadly died but one of the dudes I managed to kill, I just spammed running light attacks on him since he kept dodge rolling away. The running light attacks are soooooo satisfying
I think the only think that can trade with higher damage is piercing fang, as it can get pretty nutty damage, especially with claymaore
It’s the distance in the crazy tracking that’s the problem. That’s why it’s very OP.
3:08 "I'm coming in hot on all 3 of you guys" - ChaseTheBro
Idk if anyone will agree with me on this. While I love getting invaded and have time for it all day. I do not have time for an invader who after attacking decides that he wants to run away expecting me to chase them all the way through the level.
yes it's really annoying. usually its cause they expect their gimmick to one shot like usual but when it gets counter played they have nothing left and run for enemies.
i really wish in the open world, caves/dungeon entrances were like fog walls that the host could enter so you aren't held hostage cause the invader is wasting your time.
15:31 Chase finally understood the fun of L2 gaming.
Chase anything looks OP in your hands
Power-stance Milady has become my weapon of choice lately, tried to power-stance some great katanas too but they're waaay too slow to be effective
Chasethebro definitely has an arteria leaf plug
He uses cloud save states to just reset a file after he's done invading.
@leebard9335 wow now that's meta
I swear i started to seing your videos because the "chase the bro here" 🗣️
I would love to see if St. Trina’s Torch is still as powerful as it was before the new DLC meta!
Love the content! Would like to see a katana dual wield with the wakizashi as the left hand weapon.
invading by the sniping orbs and proceeding to use backhand blade AOW may just be the most despicable behavior i’ve seen on this channel 💀
Hey Chase!
I'm seeing more and more of your videos rocking the level 150 builds! Would you consider it the new staple level for meta? Or will it slowly reverse back to 125-139?
Love your videos dude!
That’s actually because I only have a level 150 that has gone through the DLC. In the next coming days, I plan to do a play through on my level 125 or 138 character.
@@ChaseTheBro Oh gotcha! Ty for the answer, I'll stay tuned for your next vids!
Has there been a ChasetheBro PvP community event? Even though I'd probably get recked I'd love to 1v1 CTB. There really should be a community fight schedule lol
Great video 🌹
"That was wholesome... for us" priceless :))
Unbeknownst to us Chase actually has an entire throwing weapon build setup but he still needs to get a golem fist 😉
Dr Octagonapus is just barely short enough to fit as a character name 😂❤
This ash is so fkin foul tarnished...
Honestly, this Ash is always gonna be OP just by virtue of the fact that it closes so much distance so fast, more so than really any of other ash. It's now my main go to set up for all PVE mobs. I use it on the smith script throwing circle weapon for more versatility and it's stupidly effective on bosses.
Use ansbachs longbow chase actually a viable bow (besides greatbows)
There's a talisman you get for betraying the hornsent that increases dash attacks. I'm curious if that also stacks with the ash of war
lol it’s 50/50 but I use frenzy build and when I see those blades and I got space and they get close enough I time the walking frenzy and follow as they try to dodge..it’s a quick kill
The video that is about the slash of the swift variety
2:02 Goodbyyyyyyye Mooooonviel (as sung by FART from Season 1 Rick and Morty)