Good that educated people like him are unveiling the blind narratives spread by Western intellectuals and peacefuls for centuries... Ramayana and Mahabharata are the two greatest epics that happened thousands of years back.... There are many such incidents took place..... Hopefully more Eternal truth will come out........
Some incidents like asking Eklavya to give his thumb as gurudakshina seems cruel. Advising two warring famies to war rather thanfind peacefull settlement is disappointing . The seniors of the kauravas not attempting to bring peace between waring cousins is bad
Thank you for inviting me to the show. It's a pleasure to share my research for the benefit of everyone. I will be sharing in depth analysis on Indian History on my channel.
नमस्ते अंकीत जी, अाप कृपया श्री. निलेश निळकंठ ओक इनके यु ट्युबपर महाभारत और रामयण पर जो व्याख्यान है उनको भी सुनीयै। उनकी किताबे भी अभ्यासपुर्ण है। आप अचंभीत होंगे। उनके शोधनिबंध और व्याख्यान सारे के सारे विज्ञान के उपर ही आधारीत है। कृपया उन्हें जरुर जरुर सुनियें। धंन्यवाद! ।।जय जय श्री राम।।
Chandru Rameshji your sacrificing the career for seeking truth is greatly applouded as this type of incidents are mile stones in the renaissance of our civilization.I wish you great success in your effort. God bless you and people like you.
good discussion and thanks to Chandru Ramesh for his excellent work. History should be a multi-disciplinary system is completely agreed. New areas that should be added for history research should be-language, culture, plants, animals, genetics, blood groups, haplogroups, human migrations, anthropology, earth and ice core samples, geology, climatic events, etc.... This will give you 2 important things: 1. It will prove to you with conclusive evidence that Indian history is real and true history in our scriptures, literatures and writings. 2. Indian history should be the standard benchmark for all historical events as no other ancient civilizational timelines can give you such multi-disciplinary records and accuracy as available in Indian scriptures, literature and other historical records.
Wow! Young man, go ahead and be able to give a new message to the world community about Mahabharata, no matter even it may need more research to provide archaeological evidences and even if it takes time given your age!
The origin of human inhabitation was south of Tamil Nadu in the Kumari Khandam when the entire earth was in one Khandam (=piece). Their primeval gods were Kumari (Sati / Shakti) and Shiva (Pashupati - the Lord of all Animals [humans included]). Later the earth split and became many khandams and Kumari disappeared. (Perhaps due to volcanic eruptions). This is denoted by story of Sati the Mother’s death at the yajna Shaala (volcano?) of her own father - Prajaa-pati Daksha. (There is a place named Kottiyoor in Kerala, a makeshift temple where it is believed that Daksha performed the yajna. Kerala which might have been part of the Kumari-Khandam that sunk, is on the west of the western ghats and is believed to have been restored from the Arabian Sea by Parashurama by throwing his Parashu weapon from Gokarna - a seat of Shiva to KanyaKumari - a seat of Shakti and hence is known as the gods’ own land). The story goes that Vishnu, (literally meaning the all spreading / pervading), cut the body of Sati into many pieces and distributed it across the world. That indicates the drifting away of the continents as we see today. That is also one reason that there is very much similarity between the tribes of Tamil Nadu, of the Sentinels, of the Africans etc. Later part of puranic history talks about people moving northward into the newly formed indian peninsula and there was peace - Shiva moving to the Himalayas in Dhyana / meditation. Thereafter, when there was severe drought conditions for centuries continuously, that when people even found it difficult to offer obituaries to their departed forefathers, King Bhrigu attempted to bring Ganga water from the skies and it was Lord Shiva who positioned himself upon mount Kailasa to accept the heavenly Ganga (possibly a great comet with plenty of minerals filled water content). It pounced into earth and later disappeared into the earth, until Shiva helped again, in bringing it out from the depth of earths crust, thus obtaining the position of GangaDhara turning it filtered into a sacred water of the Himalayas - also further being sanctified and purified by Maharishi Jhanava and getting credited with the name of Jhaanavi after passing thru his ears. Therefore we see the cultural transition from the world’s oldest language of Tamil turning into Sanskrit and spreading Northwards. All the eastern languages which evolved from original Tamil can be found to be in the phonetic system - Abujida alphasyllabary viz., Chinese, Korean etc. However after the Mahabharata war, when forces of Gandhara (Khandahar) attacked mercilessly the children of Lord Krishna, known as the famous command/curse of Gandhari upon SriKrishna and his children and fellow beings, Krishna advised his folks to move out of India and settle elsewhere in the world, disguised by dress, language and culture. That is when Sanskrit language became transformed to the Alphabet system and compressed into Latin, Hebrew, Greek, Roman, German, Russian, Aramaic,Arabic etc. whose similarity with Sanskrit is also well known. We can even see the DNA trace from the Tamil Nadu region in India spreading across the coastal part upto and beyond Africa. This is because, when the Kumari Khandam split, people stayed back on the drifting borders for some more time as they still communicated and commuted by ferries for some time until they lost their connection with their kin completely when the distance between the lands widened. However, we can also see how kings like Kubera and Ravana had relationships with countries and cultures on the other side of the globe. Kubera owned a vimaana - an apparatus that could travel in the air by which he could deliver & distribute all his annual earnings once every year across everyone in the world. (Though it was interrupted for some time when Ravana captured and ruled SriLanka- the wealthiest nation of that time). [ we can see the story of Kubera modified as Santa Claus ] Thus, the Pashupati seals found in the Indus Valley excavations were of Tamil origin Harappan means HaraAppan (Haran Appan). Haran is Shiva. Shiva is the primeval god. The concept of Shiva and Shakti - Sati originated in the Kumari Khandam which was the single continent where mankind lived. Later that continent sank into the Indian Ocean. This is referred to as the Great Flood wherein Vishnu took the form of Matsya Avatar. (There is also reference to this as Noah’s Ark). After the Great flood, the continent was restored by Varaha Avatar which probably was a Cold Volcano (Varaha means dig out / erupt out from depth). The reference of Varaha destroying the Hiranya Aksha which means Golden Eye explains how the central fire of the volcano was controlled by dousing through filling up with external cool rocks. The fight of Varaha with the Hiranya Aksha is the dousing act. Thereafter we can find Hiranya-Kashipu meaning the Golden Nucleus. (We can even find the reference of Kashyapa Prajaapati as being the source seed of all living creatures - begotten thru his various wives in Human, Birds, Snakes, Gods, Demons etc. When started controlling / ruling / destroying the different organisms, Vishnu took the Avatar of NriSimha meaning negative controller / ruler (Nr meaning not; Simha meaning controller / ruler/ destroyer - HimSa). The story goes that HiranyaKashipu even started trying to destroying its own child thru various means of rolling down from heights, drowning in waters, burning in fire etc., (sort of auto-immuno-cancer, so to say) but couldn’t, thanks to the power of NriSimha - anti- destructive power of Vishnu / NriSimha. Thereafter, we find the first human dwarf form called Vaamana, which grew into the atmospheric/ celestial spheres as well, and occupied the whole of the earth, heavens and even the other organisms that bore the seed of HiranyaKashipu (the golden nucleus). Prahlada his son is the great vibration (prakarshena hiltate iti Prahlada - as in vibration of Aahlaada). Once the human form stabilised, thereafter we can find the evolution as SriRama the perfect human, SriKrishna the SuperHuman etc. It has been observed by scientists that the area identified as Kumari khandam has very low gravity compared to other places on the Earth. (ua-cam.com/users/shortsJudicDgvoZg?si=SxT2quZtC_jo46Zw) Coming back to the Kumari Khandam, the single continent, where all life forms of the present originated, near the equator and in the Indian Ocean, the resulting force of the Volcano which was controlled by Varaha Avatar, again caught fire which is referred as the great yajna by prajapati daksha. Daksha prajapati avoided inert Shiva and his own daughter who is also the consort of Shiva, called Energy/Shakti because he felt that equilibrium of the continent would be affected by their presence (matter & energy - Shiva & Shakti). However Shakti participated per force of her own will against wishes of Shiva as well as Prajapati, (probably referring to a disfunction of the yajna) and that led to dissipation of Shakti. This dissipation of matter is known as Sati. The destroyed continent exploded to all directions, by the Sudarshana (360 degree wheel) of Vishnu and split the Kumari khanda. Thus we see the different continents of the world are pieces of the same, and seem to have been drifted away. The last tip that remained from being drifted was called Kannya Kumari (Cape Comorin - Virgin Power) which is today indicated by the tip of the Indian peninsula. Thus we find the human race spilt from the Kumari Khandam to Africa Australia Asia and hence we see their ancient cultures quite similar to the original Dravidian culture of India. The name Dravida comes from Sanskrit which literally translates to Peninsula. Therefore the whole of India was once known as Dravida until renamed after King Bharata as BharataVarsha due to the intense knowledge streams and philosophies that were developed in this part. (For that matter, the Pandyas and Pallavas were known as Bharatavars - meaning descendants of Bharata). Thus Shiva can be thereafter seen referred as related to the Himalayas as the condensation of volcanic matter is found in the Himalayas. Matter itself was thus considered daughter of Himalayas and called as Parvati. The primeval Lord Shiva therefore can be seen worshiped in the Arabian continent in the KaAba Mecca as Makkeshwara which is a twisted form of pronunciation of Maheshwara. The black vaginal form of rock which the pious Muslims kiss in the Kaaba is the mother matter or mother Parvati who was reborn form of Energy (Shakti). Both Matter and Energy (Prakriti and Shakti) are in Shiva which literally means Peace. Many of the flat earth mentions in the western scriptures is probably referring to the Kumari Khandam itself. It is only in the Indian scripture that we find Varaha bringing forth our Mother Earth in the form of a sphere. It is also mentioned that Tamil came from one side of Shiva’s damroo and Sanskrit from the other side. Moreover, the Sanskrit grammar is codified as Maheshwara Sutra. The vowels and consonants are scientifically arranged in both these languages and that shows that they originated together. Tamil was used for local vernacular use while Sanskrit was used for Science.
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Sir, Shri Nilesh Oak is also an engineer turned historian, who has dated Ramayana and Mahabharata on the basis of world events. The great Flood, which submerged Dwaraka in the year 5525 BC. He also used astrological charts of Mahabharata war and Prabhu Shri Ram's birth chart by back calculating the planetary Mahabharata is dated 7000 years ago and Ramayana,14000 years ago. Sugreeva' s Atlas is also a good document for reading.
Nilesh ji's work is based on false assumptions and speculations based on astronomical dating of a singular Arundhati Vashista phenomenon. I have critiqued and disproved his theory. I have proven the dating of the Mahabharata through a multi disciplinary research work. Also, Thousands of years of tradition hase been painstakingly maintained by our ancestors. Kindly read Mahabharata Myth or history to understand the real history. Please Read perspectives and researches of multiple scholars
@@realhistorikaAstronomical data can not be falsifiable if done in a scientific way and Nileshji proves it methodically. If you guys collaborate things may come out tobe precise one. Collaboration is healthier than disapproving .
@@ajay007au Namaste ajay ji. looks like you have not read the works of other scholars. Please read my book Mahabharata Myth or History where 5561 BCE is critiqued and disproved.
@@realhistorikaNamaste, then why don't you have live debate with him. He is always open to healty debate and ready to accept tge new evedences backed by scientific basis and data...I trust Nilesh jis work more than anybody...thx.
Thank you sir for your information. In kannada a novel called Parva, is there written by famous author S.L Bhyrappa. It's translated into all indian languages. It's also quite good and how Mahabharat might have happened. After reading that book I realised Mahabharat is not mythology, but history
Most enlightening. God bless Chandra Rameshji on the great literary and research work to dig out and correctly connect gems of Mahabharata events to uphold Bharat with great clarity. Jay Hind Jay Bharat
Notes: Pramaan=evidence. Tamil Sangam literature talks of Lord Krishna and Arjuna! Lord Pashupathi was a prominent God in the Indus. The word myth traces its origins to Sanskrit (Mithya or Mithak). Periplus of the Erythraean Sea is a 2000+ year Greek travelog by an unkown author, which gives the location of Dwarakha (calls it Barakha). Megasthanis 2300+ a Greek traveler talks of Sandrokotus (Chandragupta). Kurukshetra war dating is 3101BCE that's about 5115 years ago (according to Chandru Ramesh). Kaliyug begins and Yudistir Shakha (?) after the war. For this dating there are thousands of (shila lekh) inscriptions and 400+ literature evidences are available from Kashmir to Kanya Kumari and Gujrat to Thailand. So far we are at 5125 of Kaliyug.
Watch Nilesh oakji’s scientific research on Mahabharata and Ramayana. Those who are commenting that there are no proofs will get boggled by the amount of research and authenticity of these epics and which proves that they are our Itihaas( as it happened) and not myths.
In J&K, it is said that pandavas visited north india (north of delhi) during vanvas, there are many temples and places linked to their stay here in hills during agyaatvaas. There is a village named Jakh near Jammu on Jammu pathankot highway, where there is one large pond and temple. It is said that yudhisthir answered yaksh questions here only.
MahaBharat is an epic made of collections of small urban stories then and also tells us about a war between two brothers of same family, that teaches us how the lust of throne can bring destruction of a Famous Bharat Vansh. There are so meny Byas are there still today, they are called Byas means they realize and devide the vedas as per their inner meaning, the 1st Person who started this that is Krishnadwaipayan, Veda Byas, he was the Person who started classifying the Vedas according to their Subjective and also meterialostic approaches. Don't try to find the what is the truth or fact or artifacts from this Epic, but find the lessons that depicted in that Epic. Mahabharat is Epic that tells us the Social structure, and culture of that time. This is truly the history of ancient India.
We have uploaded 10 videos on book Holy Science on PMC UA-cam channel..we are now in dwaparyug..chaturyug ended on 1700AD. Eternal Himalayan masters have revealed the cycles of chaturyugi..
There are enough evidences for Mahabharat , it's time for Ramayana! But ASI don't do anything large scale excavations on their sites, fact is For Mahabharat there are mpre convincing evidence than Buddha Mahavira Zarathustra Socrates etc.
I've watched up to 13:23 and have the following comment. Finding coins depicting Lord Krishna and Lord Balarama is not proof that they were historical figures or that the Mahabharat was historical (though I hope so on both counts). They could be coins based on oral stories/legends at that time, which could be of historical or mythological origin. For example, we have idols of Lord Krishna in many temples. If a 1000 year later, these are discovered by some archeologist, it does not prove or disprove historical origin of Lord Krishna. A contemporary example: in a Thai or Indonesian airport there is a massive sculpture depicting the Samudra Manthan, that is apparently based on mythology. But just because that sculpture is there does not mean it was sculpted because it was known that it was a historical event. Similarly, at the time the aforementioned coins were minted, it does not necessarily mean they were minted because it was known that Lord Krishna and Lord Balarama were historical figures.
महाभारत को मिथ कहना भगवान कृष्ण को नकारना है……ऐसी भूल ना करें…… भारतीयों को अपनी पुरातन संस्कृति पर गर्वान्वित होना चाहिए……प्रमाण हैं, यद्यपि जिज्ञासा ही हमें इतिहास की सत्यता की ओर जाने का एकमात्र उद्देश्य होना चाहिए…..
there is a difference of app 2000 yrs as the year of MB war between Nilesh Oak and your dating. He also gives data other than astronomy. Is it nnot possible to fight among yourselves all & fix one date of MB war so that historicity of Indian scripture is firmly established ?
Position of Nakshtras given by Rishi Valmiki. Arundhati and Vashista position works out to be more then 7000 bc. ii) sea level increases about a meter in 1000 years. Depth of Ram Setu from surface is about 9 meters. iii) It was also discovered that rocks on top of Ram Setu matches the rocks of surrounding areas and different from sea rocks below. These are some of the evidences that Ramayana period is about 7000bc.
Your work is laudable but Astronomical data is most clinching evidence in determining time line all other data are corroborative. All indologists need to come together and concur on some correct date.
Ma'am, ऐसे ही बहुत ही प्रख्यात गुजरात में स्टेच्यू ऑफ यूनिटी से सिर्फ १५० किलोमीटर दूर आठ चिरंजीवी में से एक गुरु द्रोणाचार्य के पुत्र अश्वत्थामा पांच हजार साल से रहते हैं यह तो वो एविडेंस है महाभारत युद्ध का जो अभी भी जिन्दा है।
आप जैसे कम दिमागवाले अंधभक्त हिंदू धर्म डुबाकर रखेंगे.हिंदू धर्म आत्मज्ञान देकर जीवन, मृत्यू के चक्र से हमेशा के लिये जीव को मुक्ती देता है.इसलिए वह सर्वश्रेष्ठ है.आत्मा का परमात्मा से योग कर देता है.अंधश्रद्धा और कर्मकांड फैलाकर लोगों को लुटनेवाले पुजारी, पुरोहितों ने उसे बरबाद कर दिया.
Extremely disappointing conversation. There is no deep dive into any event. There is no deep dive into the link with Indus Valley or any of the so called research this so called researcher has put together. The discussion was so shallow and underwhelming that there is nothing new or exciting this man has shared here. This is why I like Raj Vedam. He brings out fascinating and real research which shows he has done real research. Requesting the team to bring genuine people for their podcast.
It's the first podcast. The beginning. The start is always simple. It'll start becoming technical with further podcasts. To understand my genuinity and capability as a researcher, read Mahabharata myth or History. 5* ratings with 5000+ copies sold. Best wishes.
Absolutely I agree. There's no depth and it seemed shallow. He's using AI and ML and 400 books as reference, seems more about using technology and less research part. He's not actually a scholar or archeologist, atleast he's not give any details about the research which can offer anything substantial. I don't know about his books though. I've listened to a podcast of another person I forgot his name who actually is a sanskrit scholar, he went through many literature and original sanskrit artifacts and came up with accurate dates on timing of events and also used geological and astrological data to offer a substantive evidence. He explained his process of research, learning experiences, mistakes, flaws found in general and findings quite well. Also, there's another guy named Yajnadevam from US who's a cryptologist, and someone who's finally cracked indic script based on falsification to prove his findings using scientific means. He's given an interview recently to one of the news channels and explained the process and offeres depth of his findings and the process. It was an interesting interview.
@@vish5798 Pls read my book and let me know if you have the same thoughts after reading. 5+ years of research. Data from 13+ academic disciplines. 300+ evidences. 1000+ academic citations. Critique my work. Appreciate if you can do that. Regards and best wishes.
Mr. Chandru is really an icon and should be the role model for today's youth for contribute to the nation.
Good that educated people like him are unveiling the blind narratives spread by Western intellectuals and peacefuls for centuries... Ramayana and Mahabharata are the two greatest epics that happened thousands of years back.... There are many such incidents took place..... Hopefully more Eternal truth will come out........
Some incidents like asking Eklavya to give his thumb as gurudakshina seems cruel. Advising two warring famies to war rather thanfind peacefull settlement is disappointing . The seniors of the kauravas not attempting to bring peace between waring cousins is bad
Thank you for inviting me to the show. It's a pleasure to share my research for the benefit of everyone. I will be sharing in depth analysis on Indian History on my channel.
🙏 blessings of Bhagwan Krishna always with you
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Which language and script/writing is used in the village Ajaagar rock inscriptions?
Nice podcast, pls debate with SJ, Rational World YT channel, he's denying everything about Mahabharat, Ramayan with proofs & evidence
@@ridinghightidesindia6847 yeh nahi tik paingey bhai
Mujhe hi kuchh karna hoga
Finally someone is trying to restore the dent given by mughals and britishers!!! This should have been done years ago. Great job brother!!!
Thank you
Many people are doing now.
नमस्ते अंकीत जी, अाप कृपया श्री. निलेश निळकंठ ओक इनके यु ट्युबपर महाभारत और रामयण पर जो व्याख्यान है उनको भी सुनीयै। उनकी किताबे भी अभ्यासपुर्ण है। आप अचंभीत होंगे। उनके शोधनिबंध और व्याख्यान सारे के सारे विज्ञान के उपर ही आधारीत है। कृपया उन्हें जरुर जरुर सुनियें।
धंन्यवाद!
।।जय जय श्री राम।।
Very impressed and understand the difference between myth and reality of Maha Bharat by proving with proof of evidence.Great !!!
Chandru Rameshji your sacrificing the career for seeking truth is greatly applouded as this type of incidents are mile stones in the renaissance of our civilization.I wish you great success in your effort. God bless you and people like you.
ॐ जयन्ती मङ्गला काली भद्रकाली कपालिनी दुर्गा क्षमा शिवा धात्री स्वाहा स्वधा नमोऽस्तुते।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
Enke short clips banay tabhi youth Tak jayegi
good discussion and thanks to Chandru Ramesh for his excellent work. History should be a multi-disciplinary system is completely agreed. New areas that should be added for history research should be-language, culture, plants, animals, genetics, blood groups, haplogroups, human migrations, anthropology, earth and ice core samples, geology, climatic events, etc.... This will give you 2 important things:
1. It will prove to you with conclusive evidence that Indian history is real and true history in our scriptures, literatures and writings.
2. Indian history should be the standard benchmark for all historical events as no other ancient civilizational timelines can give you such multi-disciplinary records and accuracy as available in Indian scriptures, literature and other historical records.
ॐ कृष्णाय वासुदेवाय हरये परमात्मने प्रणतः क्लेशनाशाय गोविन्दाय नमो नमः।।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
ॐ वसुदेवसुतं देवं कंसचाणुरमर्दनम् देवकी परमानन्दं श्री कृष्णं वन्दे जगद्गुरुम्।।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
बहुत सुंदर मिथ और इतिहास के आधार पर महाभारत का तथ्यों के साथ अद्भुत वर्णन 5125 वर्ष पूर्व सत्य को प्रस्थापित करता है😊
Wow! Young man, go ahead and be able to give a new message to the world community about Mahabharata, no matter even it may need more research to provide archaeological evidences and even if it takes time given your age!
The origin of human inhabitation was south of Tamil Nadu in the Kumari Khandam when the entire earth was in one Khandam (=piece). Their primeval gods were Kumari (Sati / Shakti) and Shiva (Pashupati - the Lord of all Animals [humans included]).
Later the earth split and became many khandams and Kumari disappeared. (Perhaps due to volcanic eruptions). This is denoted by story of Sati the Mother’s death at the yajna Shaala (volcano?) of her own father - Prajaa-pati Daksha. (There is a place named Kottiyoor in Kerala, a makeshift temple where it is believed that Daksha performed the yajna. Kerala which might have been part of the Kumari-Khandam that sunk, is on the west of the western ghats and is believed to have been restored from the Arabian Sea by Parashurama by throwing his Parashu weapon from Gokarna - a seat of Shiva to KanyaKumari - a seat of Shakti and hence is known as the gods’ own land).
The story goes that Vishnu, (literally meaning the all spreading / pervading), cut the body of Sati into many pieces and distributed it across the world. That indicates the drifting away of the continents as we see today.
That is also one reason that there is very much similarity between the tribes of Tamil Nadu, of the Sentinels, of the Africans etc.
Later part of puranic history talks about people moving northward into the newly formed indian peninsula and there was peace - Shiva moving to the Himalayas in Dhyana / meditation.
Thereafter, when there was severe drought conditions for centuries continuously, that when people even found it difficult to offer obituaries to their departed forefathers, King Bhrigu attempted to bring Ganga water from the skies and it was Lord Shiva who positioned himself upon mount Kailasa to accept the heavenly Ganga (possibly a great comet with plenty of minerals filled water content). It pounced into earth and later disappeared into the earth, until Shiva helped again, in bringing it out from the depth of earths crust, thus obtaining the position of GangaDhara turning it filtered into a sacred water of the Himalayas - also further being sanctified and purified by Maharishi Jhanava and getting credited with the name of Jhaanavi after passing thru his ears.
Therefore we see the cultural transition from the world’s oldest language of Tamil turning into Sanskrit and spreading Northwards.
All the eastern languages which evolved from original Tamil can be found to be in the phonetic system - Abujida alphasyllabary viz., Chinese, Korean etc. However after the Mahabharata war, when forces of Gandhara (Khandahar) attacked mercilessly the children of Lord Krishna, known as the famous command/curse of Gandhari upon SriKrishna and his children and fellow beings, Krishna advised his folks to move out of India and settle elsewhere in the world, disguised by dress, language and culture. That is when Sanskrit language became transformed to the Alphabet system and compressed into Latin, Hebrew, Greek, Roman, German, Russian, Aramaic,Arabic etc. whose similarity with Sanskrit is also well known.
We can even see the DNA trace from the Tamil Nadu region in India spreading across the coastal part upto and beyond Africa. This is because, when the Kumari Khandam split, people stayed back on the drifting borders for some more time as they still communicated and commuted by ferries for some time until they lost their connection with their kin completely when the distance between the lands widened.
However, we can also see how kings like Kubera and Ravana had relationships with countries and cultures on the other side of the globe. Kubera owned a vimaana - an apparatus that could travel in the air by which he could deliver & distribute all his annual earnings once every year across everyone in the world. (Though it was interrupted for some time when Ravana captured and ruled SriLanka- the wealthiest nation of that time). [ we can see the story of Kubera modified as Santa Claus ]
Thus, the Pashupati seals found in the Indus Valley excavations were of Tamil origin
Harappan means HaraAppan (Haran Appan). Haran is Shiva.
Shiva is the primeval god.
The concept of Shiva and Shakti - Sati originated in the Kumari Khandam which was the single continent where mankind lived.
Later that continent sank into the Indian Ocean. This is referred to as the Great Flood wherein Vishnu took the form of Matsya Avatar. (There is also reference to this as Noah’s Ark).
After the Great flood, the continent was restored by Varaha Avatar which probably was a Cold Volcano (Varaha means dig out / erupt out from depth). The reference of Varaha destroying the Hiranya Aksha which means Golden Eye explains how the central fire of the volcano was controlled by dousing through filling up with external cool rocks. The fight of Varaha with the Hiranya Aksha is the dousing act.
Thereafter we can find Hiranya-Kashipu meaning the Golden Nucleus. (We can even find the reference of Kashyapa Prajaapati as being the source seed of all living creatures - begotten thru his various wives in Human, Birds, Snakes, Gods, Demons etc. When started controlling / ruling / destroying the different organisms, Vishnu took the Avatar of NriSimha meaning negative controller / ruler (Nr meaning not; Simha meaning controller / ruler/ destroyer - HimSa). The story goes that HiranyaKashipu even started trying to destroying its own child thru various means of rolling down from heights, drowning in waters, burning in fire etc., (sort of auto-immuno-cancer, so to say) but couldn’t, thanks to the power of NriSimha - anti- destructive power of Vishnu / NriSimha.
Thereafter, we find the first human dwarf form called Vaamana, which grew into the atmospheric/ celestial spheres as well, and occupied the whole of the earth, heavens and even the other organisms that bore the seed of HiranyaKashipu (the golden nucleus). Prahlada his son is the great vibration (prakarshena hiltate iti Prahlada - as in vibration of Aahlaada).
Once the human form stabilised, thereafter we can find the evolution as SriRama the perfect human, SriKrishna the SuperHuman etc.
It has been observed by scientists that the area identified as Kumari khandam has very low gravity compared to other places on the Earth.
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Coming back to the Kumari Khandam, the single continent, where all life forms of the present originated, near the equator and in the Indian Ocean, the resulting force of the Volcano which was controlled by Varaha Avatar, again caught fire which is referred as the great yajna by prajapati daksha. Daksha prajapati avoided inert Shiva and his own daughter who is also the consort of Shiva, called Energy/Shakti because he felt that equilibrium of the continent would be affected by their presence (matter & energy - Shiva & Shakti).
However Shakti participated per force of her own will against wishes of Shiva as well as Prajapati, (probably referring to a disfunction of the yajna) and that led to dissipation of Shakti. This dissipation of matter is known as Sati. The destroyed continent exploded to all directions, by the Sudarshana (360 degree wheel) of Vishnu and split the Kumari khanda. Thus we see the different continents of the world are pieces of the same, and seem to have been drifted away. The last tip that remained from being drifted was called Kannya Kumari (Cape Comorin - Virgin Power) which is today indicated by the tip of the Indian peninsula.
Thus we find the human race spilt from the Kumari Khandam to Africa Australia Asia and hence we see their ancient cultures quite similar to the original Dravidian culture of India. The name Dravida comes from Sanskrit which literally translates to Peninsula. Therefore the whole of India was once known as Dravida until renamed after King Bharata as BharataVarsha due to the intense knowledge streams and philosophies that were developed in this part.
(For that matter, the Pandyas and Pallavas were known as Bharatavars - meaning descendants of Bharata).
Thus Shiva can be thereafter seen referred as related to the Himalayas as the condensation of volcanic matter is found in the Himalayas. Matter itself was thus considered daughter of Himalayas and called as Parvati.
The primeval Lord Shiva therefore can be seen worshiped in the Arabian continent in the KaAba Mecca as Makkeshwara which is a twisted form of pronunciation of Maheshwara. The black vaginal form of rock which the pious Muslims kiss in the Kaaba is the mother matter or mother Parvati who was reborn form of Energy (Shakti). Both Matter and Energy (Prakriti and Shakti) are in Shiva which literally means Peace.
Many of the flat earth mentions in the western scriptures is probably referring to the Kumari Khandam itself.
It is only in the Indian scripture that we find Varaha bringing forth our Mother Earth in the form of a sphere.
It is also mentioned that Tamil came from one side of Shiva’s damroo and Sanskrit from the other side.
Moreover, the Sanskrit grammar is codified as Maheshwara Sutra.
The vowels and consonants are scientifically arranged in both these languages and that shows that they originated together. Tamil was used for local vernacular use while Sanskrit was used for Science.
Great! My respects for this marvelous write up!
आदौ देवकी देव गर्भजननं गोपी गृहे वर्धनम् मायापूतन जीविताप हरणं गोवर्धनोधारणम्। कंसाच्छेदन कौरवादिहननं कुन्तीसुता पालनं एतद् श्रीमद्भागवतंपुराण कथितं श्री कृष्णलीलामृतम्।।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
Bahot accha laga podcast...
Muje History Janna bahot accha lagta hai
Aise hi aur Guest ko bulaya kariye podcast par jo hame hamari prachin sanskriti se vakef karaye
Chandru Ramesh jee, you are GREAT !
Sir, Shri Nilesh Oak is also an engineer turned historian, who has dated Ramayana and Mahabharata on the basis of world events. The great Flood, which submerged Dwaraka in the year 5525 BC. He also used astrological charts of Mahabharata war and Prabhu Shri Ram's birth chart by back calculating the planetary Mahabharata is dated 7000 years ago and Ramayana,14000 years ago. Sugreeva' s Atlas is also a good document for reading.
Nilesh ji's work is based on false assumptions and speculations based on astronomical dating of a singular Arundhati Vashista phenomenon. I have critiqued and disproved his theory. I have proven the dating of the Mahabharata through a multi disciplinary research work. Also, Thousands of years of tradition hase been painstakingly maintained by our ancestors. Kindly read Mahabharata Myth or history to understand the real history. Please Read perspectives and researches of multiple scholars
@@realhistorikaAstronomical data can not be falsifiable if done in a scientific way and Nileshji proves it methodically.
If you guys collaborate things may come out tobe precise one. Collaboration is healthier than disapproving .
@@realhistorika Looks like you haven't seen his data. No one can challenge Nilesh Ji's work. He has proven with multidiscipline evidence.
@@ajay007au Namaste ajay ji. looks like you have not read the works of other scholars. Please read my book Mahabharata Myth or History where 5561 BCE is critiqued and disproved.
@@realhistorikaNamaste, then why don't you have live debate with him. He is always open to healty debate and ready to accept tge new evedences backed by scientific basis and data...I trust Nilesh jis work more than anybody...thx.
Namaste.... Really appreciate your knowledge. Now everyone should accept Mahabharat is not a Myth. Thank you....
Thank you sir for your information. In kannada a novel called Parva, is there written by famous author S.L Bhyrappa. It's translated into all indian languages. It's also quite good and how Mahabharat might have happened. After reading that book I realised Mahabharat is not mythology, but history
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Most enlightening. God bless Chandra Rameshji on the great literary and research work to dig out and correctly connect gems of Mahabharata events to uphold Bharat with great clarity. Jay Hind Jay Bharat
It's just a beginning....go on 🎉
शानदार प्रोग्राम।👌👌 इतनी सटीक जानकारी बहुत कम सुनने या जानने की मिलती है।
सर के साथ इसके आगे के लिए और वीडियो बनाए। 🙏🙏
Good Podcast....new way of research
Wow! Got to hear real, in depth knowledge after soo long. Will follow this guest. 🎉
Very deep sir thank you so much JAI SIYARAM JAI HANUMAN ❤️🙏❤️🙏
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रघुपति राघव राजाराम पतित पावन सीताराम सुन्दर विग्रह मेघाश्याम गंगा तुलसी शालिग्राम भद्रगिरीश्वर सीताराम भगत जनप्रिय सीताराम जानकीरमणा सीताराम जय जय राघव सीताराम।।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः सर्वे सन्तु निरामयाः। सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यन्तु माकश्चिद्दुःख भाग्भवेत।।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
Notes:
Pramaan=evidence.
Tamil Sangam literature talks of Lord Krishna and Arjuna!
Lord Pashupathi was a prominent God in the Indus.
The word myth traces its origins to Sanskrit (Mithya or Mithak).
Periplus of the Erythraean Sea is a 2000+ year Greek travelog by an unkown author, which gives the location of Dwarakha (calls it Barakha).
Megasthanis 2300+ a Greek traveler talks of Sandrokotus (Chandragupta).
Kurukshetra war dating is 3101BCE that's about 5115 years ago (according to Chandru Ramesh). Kaliyug begins and Yudistir Shakha (?) after the war. For this dating there are thousands of (shila lekh) inscriptions and 400+ literature evidences are available from Kashmir to Kanya Kumari and Gujrat to Thailand. So far we are at 5125 of Kaliyug.
Very nice conversation both of you and ilaji looking very beautiful with nice sweet voice n long straight hair ❤.
Hinduism is based upon science. Everything is logical in Mahabharat.
Watch Nilesh oakji’s scientific research on Mahabharata and Ramayana. Those who are commenting that there are no proofs will get boggled by the amount of research and authenticity of these epics and which proves that they are our Itihaas( as it happened) and not myths.
Very nice brother. Proud of your choice and courage.
Informative and insightful podcast
Thank you
ॐ ईश्वरः परमः कृष्णः सच्चिदानंद विग्रहः। अनादिरादिर्गोविन्दः सर्वकारणः कारणम्।।🕉️🇮🇳🚩🙏
In J&K, it is said that pandavas visited north india (north of delhi) during vanvas, there are many temples and places linked to their stay here in hills during agyaatvaas. There is a village named Jakh near Jammu on Jammu pathankot highway, where there is one large pond and temple. It is said that yudhisthir answered yaksh questions here only.
Neelmat Puran me Krishna Hain
Please telecast more discussions. D. Dikshit, Kolkata
And for determine the time of Mahabharat war, Please refer to Rishi Bankimchandra Chattapaddhaya's Krishna Charitra
The Hmm Hmmm from the anchor.. 🙃
But, its very knowledgeable podcast. Thanks.
Chandru sir aap ka fan ban gaya hoon me 🙏🏼
He is such a good researcher
Great effort❤
japan and china me bhi ek ek city mila hai under water
Chandru Ramesh ji,
Any input in making 3D model of Sri Yantra & try recreate it in 3D physical model.
Ekdam sahi Mahabharat history hi he
Yes
Excellent research work
awesome work! keep it up sir
MahaBharat is an epic made of collections of small urban stories then and also tells us about a war between two brothers of same family, that teaches us how the lust of throne can bring destruction of a Famous Bharat Vansh. There are so meny Byas are there still today, they are called Byas means they realize and devide the vedas as per their inner meaning, the 1st Person who started this that is Krishnadwaipayan, Veda Byas, he was the Person who started classifying the Vedas according to their Subjective and also meterialostic approaches. Don't try to find the what is the truth or fact or artifacts from this Epic, but find the lessons that depicted in that Epic. Mahabharat is Epic that tells us the Social structure, and culture of that time. This is truly the history of ancient India.
great information thank you dear sir
🙏🌼🙏Jai Shri Krishna
🌼🙏🌼Aapka bahut aabhar
It's high time that Govt must declare Ramayana and Mahabharata as history.
Interesting !
व्हेरी व्हेरी इंटरेस्टिंग
He is very right
Mahabharat parmaan ke sathh h jo adbhut h jai shree krishna 🙏
Very nice information ❤❤👌🙏🕉🇮🇳
We have uploaded 10 videos on book Holy Science on PMC UA-cam channel..we are now in dwaparyug..chaturyug ended on 1700AD. Eternal Himalayan masters have revealed the cycles of chaturyugi..
Mahabharat was in Dwapar yug and that was about 5000 years ago.
Genius❤❤
Great job 👏 👍
Best knowledge in small age keep it up attract younger generation just like Lawrence Pawan and many
Thank you 🙏
There are enough evidences for Mahabharat , it's time for Ramayana! But ASI don't do anything large scale excavations on their sites, fact is For Mahabharat there are mpre convincing evidence than Buddha Mahavira Zarathustra Socrates etc.
I've watched up to 13:23 and have the following comment. Finding coins depicting Lord Krishna and Lord Balarama is not proof that they were historical figures or that the Mahabharat was historical (though I hope so on both counts). They could be coins based on oral stories/legends at that time, which could be of historical or mythological origin. For example, we have idols of Lord Krishna in many temples. If a 1000 year later, these are discovered by some archeologist, it does not prove or disprove historical origin of Lord Krishna. A contemporary example: in a Thai or Indonesian airport there is a massive sculpture depicting the Samudra Manthan, that is apparently based on mythology. But just because that sculpture is there does not mean it was sculpted because it was known that it was a historical event. Similarly, at the time the aforementioned coins were minted, it does not necessarily mean they were minted because it was known that Lord Krishna and Lord Balarama were historical figures.
महाभारत को मिथ कहना भगवान कृष्ण को नकारना है……ऐसी भूल ना करें……
भारतीयों को अपनी पुरातन संस्कृति पर गर्वान्वित होना चाहिए……प्रमाण हैं, यद्यपि जिज्ञासा ही हमें इतिहास की सत्यता की ओर जाने का एकमात्र उद्देश्य होना चाहिए…..
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Great …..
Do you guys have an English version of this .
there is a difference of app 2000 yrs as the year of MB war between Nilesh Oak and your dating. He also gives data other than astronomy.
Is it nnot possible to fight among yourselves all & fix one date of MB war so that historicity of Indian scripture is firmly established ?
Position of Nakshtras given by Rishi Valmiki. Arundhati and Vashista position works out to be more then 7000 bc. ii) sea level increases about a meter in 1000 years. Depth of Ram Setu from surface is about 9 meters. iii) It was also discovered that rocks on top of Ram Setu matches the rocks of surrounding areas and different from sea rocks below. These are some of the evidences that Ramayana period is about 7000bc.
14000 bc he boss
सनातन संस्कृति का उत्थान होने वाला है, भारत विश्वगुरु बनने वाला है इसलिए ऐसे एविडेंस को खोजने,सामने लाने वाले लोग आ रहे है ।ये लोग चुने हुए है ।
Your work is laudable but Astronomical data is most clinching evidence in determining time line all other data are corroborative. All indologists need to come together and concur on some correct date.
Nilesh oaks reserch is convincing
Problem is not believing the stories. ... problems lies on side of magic that is in the stories.
Something had happened, But there is not any Family Chronology of Pandvas or Kouravas
Ma'am, ऐसे ही बहुत ही प्रख्यात गुजरात में स्टेच्यू ऑफ यूनिटी से सिर्फ १५० किलोमीटर दूर आठ चिरंजीवी में से एक गुरु द्रोणाचार्य के पुत्र अश्वत्थामा पांच हजार साल से रहते हैं यह तो वो एविडेंस है महाभारत युद्ध का जो अभी भी जिन्दा है।
Aapko yakeen hai ??
Yes wo waha roj aate he . @@komalhooda8073
Sanskrit sab bhashao ki janni hai
@@vaishnavipriya9749 yes ...known as language of God.
आप जैसे कम दिमागवाले अंधभक्त हिंदू धर्म डुबाकर रखेंगे.हिंदू धर्म आत्मज्ञान देकर जीवन, मृत्यू के चक्र से हमेशा के लिये जीव को मुक्ती देता है.इसलिए वह सर्वश्रेष्ठ है.आत्मा का परमात्मा से योग कर देता है.अंधश्रद्धा और कर्मकांड फैलाकर लोगों को लुटनेवाले पुजारी, पुरोहितों ने उसे बरबाद कर दिया.
Akshat gupta and Chandru sir ko ek sath apne show me bulaiyga pls
शायाद युद्धिष्ठिर का नाम इसलिये नहीं है क्यों की यक्ष्ने सिर्फ इन charपांडव को ही कण्ट्रॉलकिया था, ना की युधिष्ठीर को.
Carbon dating or C 14 dating related to Mahabharata?
where those shilaleks are kept??? Please tell me like in any museams??
दीदी एक बार मोहनजो दारो के बारे में जरूर पॉडकास्ट करे
मोएआ जो ढेर।।
जय सनातन धर्म परिवार
How can we be sure of dating Kaliyug as 3102 BCE ? Can it be disputed ?
अजागर inscription किस लिपी मे लिखित है ?
Extremely disappointing conversation. There is no deep dive into any event. There is no deep dive into the link with Indus Valley or any of the so called research this so called researcher has put together. The discussion was so shallow and underwhelming that there is nothing new or exciting this man has shared here. This is why I like Raj Vedam. He brings out fascinating and real research which shows he has done real research. Requesting the team to bring genuine people for their podcast.
It's the first podcast. The beginning. The start is always simple. It'll start becoming technical with further podcasts. To understand my genuinity and capability as a researcher, read Mahabharata myth or History. 5* ratings with 5000+ copies sold. Best wishes.
Absolutely I agree. There's no depth and it seemed shallow. He's using AI and ML and 400 books as reference, seems more about using technology and less research part. He's not actually a scholar or archeologist, atleast he's not give any details about the research which can offer anything substantial. I don't know about his books though.
I've listened to a podcast of another person I forgot his name who actually is a sanskrit scholar, he went through many literature and original sanskrit artifacts and came up with accurate dates on timing of events and also used geological and astrological data to offer a substantive evidence. He explained his process of research, learning experiences, mistakes, flaws found in general and findings quite well.
Also, there's another guy named Yajnadevam from US who's a cryptologist, and someone who's finally cracked indic script based on falsification to prove his findings using scientific means. He's given an interview recently to one of the news channels and explained the process and offeres depth of his findings and the process. It was an interesting interview.
@@vish5798 Pls read my book and let me know if you have the same thoughts after reading. 5+ years of research. Data from 13+ academic disciplines. 300+ evidences. 1000+ academic citations. Critique my work. Appreciate if you can do that. Regards and best wishes.
द्वि =2. Dwarka
Bi =2. Biaraka
Looking like kushan coins
जैन धर्म के प्रथम तीर्थंकर भगवान वृषभ नाथ (आदिनाथ)के पुत्र प्रथम चक्रवर्ती सम्राट भरत के नाम सेअपने देश का नाम भारत हैं.
Kiun jhuth bol Rahe ho....Mahabharat books 3000yrs pahele hua ...bharat naam Raja Dusmanta bete Bharat ka naap pe
Koi proof??
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Aryan invasion theory really twist ki gayi he bhai
Better to narrate in English so that the reach will be more!
D read n write as B can be proven my 2boys under 6 yo still reads interchangeably
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Where can we buy this book
Search for Mahabharata myth or History on Google
When did Ramayan occur and in which Yug .
Treta
Sandro Kotus is Chanra Kayastha
Krishna ate fish because he lived in ocean side dwarika
Nope
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Please listen to nilesh oak for exact date of mahabharat
Paras from parshv ,grandson of king manu, now Iran
यदुवंश के राजा देवेन्द्र का राज मिश्र मे था जीसकी सीमाए अफगानिस्तान,आज का पाकिस्तान तक थी
Bahut achha laga.
Aap humare desh ke saputra ho.
Jay Hind
Can i have contact details of chandru ramesh ji to talk and share my works as well.