How to Play "4+20" by Stephen Stills (Off CSNY's Déjà Vu)
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- In this video, I attempt to show you how to play "4+20" by Stephen Stills. It is a great song to learn if you're just beginning to experiment with different tunings. It's also a great song to practice your finger picking.
Let me know if the video is helpful in the comments. I may do some more if people find them useful. Hope you enjoy!
Thank you for ending 40+ years of wondering how he did it. Marvellous. Now I can play it. 6 and zero years ago I come into this life........
From Wynnwood, PA a big thank you. I like your tuning the best of all. And appreciate your slow instruction. When I learn it I might even use my new computer to post something for the first time.
This was extremely helpful. I've played for 32 years but only now discovered this tuning. I would have never tried this without your video. It was easy, concise and comprehensive. I can play this song now and I owe that to your video. Thank You.
Thank you for the great lesson. 2 + 70 years and always wondered.
So nice from you working out this gem from CSN, you nailed. Same as the guy below, 40 years figuring out how to play it, thanks thanks
Very good lesson on a really great song. Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic. Nice , calm , detailed lesson
Thanks very much. Haven't tried it yet, but you made it very simple and straight forward.
I found your tutorial really easy to follow , such a lovely tune from Stills , thanks .
Wow, very clear and incredibly helpful. Think I'll mess around with it here in front of my computer tomorrow. Thanks very much!
Thanks so much for the lesson! Answers a lot on questions about this song!
lovely lesson, so clear, thank you!
First time I have ever seen one of your lessons. Good job! Thank you.
Really well done 👍
Many thanks from London
If you want the same sound that Stills played on the Dick Cavett show, tune your guitar to Eb Eb Eb Eb Bb eb. Some people thought it was just straight EEEEBe, but after searching everywhere and finally finding something that made sense, I tried it out and it was spot on. Good luck playing!
Great lesson! Helped me figure out the end of the chorus, thanks!
Have always wanted to play this beautiful tune and you have made it look fairly easy so gonna have a go so thank you very much my friend............
Thank you for the clarity
Great lesson mate, i just learned to play this great song thanks to you!! Thanks for posting
Take care,
John
Nice job. I like the DADDAD tuning as that is the same tuning that I learned Suite Judy Blue Eyes. Thanks this was very helpful.
Nice video! Thanks for the help
Cheers, very clear and precise... practising like the devil to be more...
Great lesson thanks
Fair enough. For what it's worth, I've never seen Stills play it the same way twice. He plays around with the chord progression and experiments with different highlights. If you're really interested in a particular version (e.g., the album version), I'd recommend getting a note-for-note transcription. Regarding the picking pattern, that's also an artistic choice you can make. I'm basically using a variation of a Travis picking pattern. But Stills's actual pattern is more complex than mine.
Many thanks. Very clear and well done!
Very nice lesson, good job, thanks
thanks for that, very clear lesson ....... nice one
Real nice. Great lesson thanks for your time.
Holy shit Daniel...that was excellent!! Thanks for not droning on, story telling, trying to be a comedian! And special thanks for not trying to show/teach (going a little deeper into) the "fingerpicking"!! That is so boring! You either got or you don't...
Some of us just want to learn the basics of the song! Stills plays if differently every time anyway...
I've used Open "e" (Havens), open "g" (Mitchell) for some time, but this was really different. Clean cut, real smooth rendition on your part, nice! Is that an Ibanez(Talman), if so I have its brother LOL! Thank You!
Great video! Thanks for posting.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! If you get it down, I'd love you to post a video playing it.
Thanks so much for this lesson. The little bit where you hammer on and slide up to the d shape that you spoke about, i think instead of hammering on and sliding up, it looks and sounds like he picks the second string on the second fret and pulls off to open before going back to the 4 5 d shape. But like you say its what ever feels natural. Thanks again!
I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching.
Great lesson!! Thank heaps!
loved it.
CLEAR......THANK YOU
Excellent vid. Thanks!
this was awesome! thank you! I am quite familiar with dadgad so just changing one note to make it daddad was not so hard, (although I had to watch several times to get it right) but this is perfect. thanks again!
Nicely Explained.....Thank you!
Then I play the two “outer” notes again, but this time in sequence: the open A string (P) and then the 2nd fret of the B string (M). Finally, I repeat the “inner” notes in sequence.
If you visualize each of the chords in the song as just four string, you can continue this pattern for most of the song. Sometimes your “lowest” note will have to drop down to a lower string, but it’s the same idea.
Hope that helps.
Nice and clear !
excellent, bro, thanks. Play what you feel!!
I had been fakin it for so long. Thanks!
@docsocrates Hey thanks for posting. Clear and concise.
Thanks again.
Very Good. -- Thank You for sharing.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for such an excellent tutorial on this awesome song :o))))))))))))))))
You‘re welcome! I know what you mean about the pull-off. I had been used to playing it with a hammer-on, but noticed it the second I went back to take a listen to the original recording again. But the recording was already out the door. ;-)
@chepster77
Glad you liked it! Be sure to post a video reply when you get it down! I'd love to hear it.
thank you! always loved that, but didn't know the alt. tuning
@shakeyyoung Sure thing. First, read up on PIMA fingering if that's unfamiliar. A quick Google search should dot he trick. The fingering I typically use is: PM (together), P, M, P, I, P, M. That's played over one measure, with each finger playing for an 1/8th note in duration with the exception of the double-pluck at the beginning, which lasts a 1/4 note in duration.
Thank you sir!
No offense taken. I'm curious what you mean by "waaay off beat." It's not out of time. Is it just the fact that I speed it up? I checked the original and Stills plays it at 71 bpm; mine is at about 78 bpm - significant, but not crazy. I agree that there's more character to the original song. Stills is pretty hard to beat and I don't sing very well. But for the purposes of an instructional "how-to" video, I think the attempt is adequate. I can only teach the notes. You must provide the soul.
Nice and helpful, but I hear a pull-off or at least the picked note that would occur from the pull-off where you have the hammer-on. INMO. Otherwise, this has been the best lesson I've seen.
Sure thing. First, you’ll have to be familiar with the PIMA finger lettering. If not, you can Google it.
For each chord, I begin by simultaneously playing the “outer” notes. Consider an open A chord. I simultaneously pluck the open A string (P) along with the 2nd fret of the B string (M).
Then I play the two “inner” notes in sequence: first the 2nd fret of the D string (P) and then the 2nd fret of the G string (I).
thank you
Great lesson! Would you/could you chart out or explain the "inside outside" finger picking technique? Thanks
thank you very muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuchh!!!!!
@auntysuejackson Glad you found it useful!
Thank you ;)
Aha, in vestapol tuning. A bit like what you can find from Stefan Grossman, who also explains some things.
close on the tuning....it's actually (in your tuned down version) DDDDAD, same as yours, except the 5th string is tuned all the way down to D, so you have 2 sets of unison D strings. he uses the same tuning on 'suite: judy blue eyes'
Have you played Do For The Others? I wanted to learn the lead part within the song. Thanks
Greetings. Nice job. For those of us without fingerpicking expertise, could you please (or have you already) break down the right hand? Thanks.
@sjcucinottaesq That's wonderful. Let me know if you post anything and I'll check it out.
I love this song! A classic indeed. It was fun learning to play this. Check out my cover.
very good video sir to help spread Stephen's songs, but actually Stephen rarely sticks to just the EEEEBE tuning anymore...he plays it more DDDDAD live...specially now since his cancer...he uses medium strings so they dont flop because he uses that tuning for well over 20 and more of his songs..i know...cause i spent time with sir SS @ Caribou Ranch during recording of Illegal Stills..true the DADDAD kinda works...but tune doen 5A to 5E then you will be surprised how that really makes it happen
You should alternate between the 6th and 4th strings through the song..
it is significant for me, sorry i can tell those small differences and they do end up making a big difference....i just want to learn how to play it exactly the way he does, and can you actually show the picking pattern slower because its not very clear what your doing. Thanks.
You planning any more videos?? Come on man!!
Modal D or drop d?
also known as the BRUCE PALMER MODAL TUNING
Is that a stratacoustic
why not go into little deeper inthe picking
no offense man, good job by the way cause you know where to put your fingers, but you are waaay off beat...you play it too fast, theres more of a character to the actual song....i dont know....just saying, thanks though.
Is that a stratacoustic
+Thunder Death 2 It is, indeed, a Stratacoustic. It’s the guitar I always keep lying around my office because it is compact and durable.