Talking With Docs I was told that I have a severe tear of the meniscus with arthritis behind the knee. My doctor recommended surgery. I had an MRI done and they said it was shown there. I'm supposed to have the surgery in 15 days. If it is a severe tear, can it heal on its own? Do I absolutely need to have the surgery or are they just opting for that for money purposes? Please respond asap! Also, what would be the standard treatment?
Anne Bradley I know right! But I did go forward with the procedure and I'm a couple weeks out so I'm still in the healing process. I had an amazing staff of surgeons and doctors present during my surgery so everything went extremely well. I had my post-op visit, and my doctor stated that everything is healing beautifully. I thank God and Jesus for ensuring my safety and protection all the way through.
I had two meniscus tears in my right knee, and x-rays show I'm bone on bone arthritic so not a case for meniscus repair. Instead, my surgeon said I'm a candidate for a total knee replacement. After 4 months, I couldn't be happier with the surgical outcome. I can now fully straighten my leg to 0 degrees, and can now bend it to 123' flexion. My left knee only goes to 121'. And no more knee pain, now scheduled to get the left knee TKR in May 2023. By the way, just watched a medical program on a Japanese station (NHK) where they extracted pieces of the torn meniscus and combined it with stem cells from the patient. Once out of the culture, the stem cells mixed with the "chopped up" meniscus was injected into the patient's knee. Ultimately the stem cell cocktail helped to regrow the meniscus. More clinical trials underway, but this sounds promising. Keep up the good work!
Dear docs, You guys are amazing. By chance I came across your UA-cam video titled torn meniscus - diagnostics and treatment and I was very happy with the information presented! It was so clear and easy to understand! I am 49 years old and I used to run a lot. I used to suffer from occasional knee pain after my runs, but nothing that wouldn't go away after a couple of days rest. About 9 months ago after I started a new physical activity; boxing. I soon developed knee pain which would not go away. Back then my knee was hurting so much that I was limping heavily. My pain has now almost completely disappeared and so has the limping. I would rate my knee pain as 1 out of 10. I never had any issues with a locked knee. My only limitation right now is being unable to reach my glutes with my heel (ie when I am standing on my right leg and trying to bend my left leg back so that the heel can touch my glute). I recently had an MRI done at the Jewish General hospital in Montreal. The results came out and I was diagnosed with a minor tear of the medial meniscus and a sprained ACL. As I said my pain is quasi non existent. I am able to do all my daily activities regularly except running. I have stopped running and I have decided to stick to walking. I am able to walk up to 8 kms without issues or pain. I consulted an orthopedic surgeon recently and he said I should have surgery. I am very undecided and skeptical on the benefits of arthroscopic surgery. I am also afraid that a surgery would possibly lead to future arthritis without necessarily eliminating my knee pain completely. I would love to have your opinion on the matter. Should I get surgery or not? Thank you so much!
Hi Carlos. You are very kind. We feel surgery is for pain or to potentially allow you to do other activities. There is no guarantee so if you are happy with what you are doing we would typically say wait. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
most doctors don't have a time to explain which the DOCS explained us. I really appreciated and learned a lot about the torn meniscus which I have. Thank you very much.
Wow, I don't usually comment on these informative videos but, I have to give you accolades. Short sweet and to the point. Extremely informative well-done eh!!
I can't have an MRI because of a spinal stimulator. I had arthroscopic surgery 9 months ago but the first week I felt and heard something pop. My whole leg swelled and turned black and blue. I have more pain now than before my surgery. What do you recommend?
Excellent information for those of us dealing with chronic, recurrent knee issues. Appreciate the detailed, understandable explanations for the indications of arthroscopy, MRI vs x-rays or US, repair indications vs TKR, and other treatment modalities, and arthritis vs more acute tears of the meniscus. Thank you!
"The meniscus doesn't like to heal itself because it doesn't have a great blood supply" (6:58) This is great, useful info and explains why surgery might be a good option. Thanks
It’s not supposed to have blood supply, it uses a synovial fluid instead. I would have to think this fluid provides the necessary nutrients gathered from the blood which is outside but in the vicinity of the knee. Has anyone attempted to inject more of this fluid to promote healing?
54-years-old, life-long distance runner, had the exact same pain in both knees hit me at age 44. I had tears in both medial meniscus. Underwent arthroscopy on each, about one year apart, and the dr. said he removed 70% of the meniscus. He also told me 6 weeks before running again, but that was way too soon. 8 months later I was 100% back to normal, full range of motion, and no pain after running. 10 years later I am running 3-6 miles a day, pain free. After watching this video, I guess the arthritis will catch up with me in the future. Does the meniscus ever regenerate?
@@annshirley2267 I did three miles of intervals on the track Sunday, a 9.5 mile run last Tuesday. Wear good shoes, and back off if you are hurting. Good luck!
Hi lovebois12. Thank you so much for the positive feedback. We are working hard to keep it straightforward and to the point. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I am a retired nurse as of one year ago from the facility you both work in. Nothing but good to say about these two doctors. These videos are excellent and answer just about every question a patient can think of. Love the humour and relaxed atmosphere! I do have a question. I have a medial meniscal tear in my left knee. This tear happened last Christmas Eve and I am still in excrutiating pain. That aside, I also get a searing pain like an ice pick that feels like its going through the back of my knee cap. May be referred pain? Sometimes this pain happens when I am not feeling pain in the meniscus. On top of this I have a large Bakers cyst I am told is caused from all the swelling from the fluid around my knee. My biggest "concern" with all of this is the cyst. I get terrible pressure at the back of my knee that travels down the back of my leg to my calf. Intermittently. Quite often my knee becomes very mottled. Could this be compression of the popliteal artery? Can this cyst be removed during arthroscopy at the same time meniscus tear is repaired? Hopefully I am worrying about nothing! I have an appointment in three weeks but feel a little anxious.
Hi Susan. Thanks for your kind words. So the long and short of it is that an appointment is a good idea. The cyst is typically caused by the tear and/or some arthritis that may be causing the pain under the knee cap. Yes there could be pressure on both the arteries and veins in the back of your knee and that could cause pain and potentially the mottling. If you went on to have arthroscopy often the cyst will decompress however it is not really a discrete structure that you see and can remove per se. The cyst occurs because of fluid buildup and pressure inside your knee that sneaks out a valve between the muscles into the back of your knee. Hope that helps and good luck!
Very informative and insight into Treatment for a Torn Meniscus. I have a Torn Meniscus and I find it nice to understand the perspective of a Doc when dealing with a injury.
Thanks so much for taking the time to make these informative videos. Husband is deciding on whether or not to do knee replacement surgery; he is bone on bone. Synivisc starting tomorrow with fingers crossed. You shed honest light on what to expect after surgery. He is 65 today and active...likes to hike (with pain now) in the mountains with elevation.
I’ve had arthritis in my knees since I was in my 20s. I’ve had nine arthritis related surgeries. It has been very beneficial to have the meniscus trimmed during my younger years even with substantial arthritis. .
Excellent info, I've been researching my symptoms and this is the best info I've seen so far. I just had X-Rays done and waiting for the results. I have the locked knee and sharp sudden pains in addition to the dull and stiff pains that also effect the other knee. I can't squat or kneel at all. The pain intensity comes and goes but flares up if I put weight on it for an extended period of time, not necessarily just walking. I'm in my 30's so my concern is that I'm arthritic already. Could an improper gait cause this damage? This came on gradually after years of working out on a treadmill and my concern is that I have ruined my joints in the process.
An improper gait can lead to abnormal loading of your joints and theoretically lead to damage but typically degeneration of the knees is caused by injuries (subtle or not so subtle) as well as general use and the aging process. It would likely be unfair to blame the treadmill entirely. Running does load the knees more than other activities but there are many runners that do not have arthritis. Hope that helps
NO SURGERY!! I Tore my meniscus 3x (FML)... Here are my experiences.. 1st - Was just shy of a full horizontal tear...took 9 months to heal and gain FULL explosion in my jump back. (No Surgery) Right knee. 2nd - Was a long vertical tear.... took 7 months to heal and gain FULL explosion back. Rested month 1...Played on it next 3 months... rested the next 3 months. *When I played on it for 3 months, It would become very swollen and ache, I would develop a tender Meniscal Cyst that protruded from the side of my knee. (No Surgery) Left Knee 3rd - Is a smaller horizontal tear....Currently dealing with it.. Im projecting a 2 month timetable to heal this one... I wont be using it in sport so It an heal quicker... Physical Therapy to the max...Eat a healthy diet and your body will want to heal that tear as quick as possible. (Not getting Surgery) Left Knee...Slight Cyst. -Every single TEAR occurred while Coming Down after jumping (exploding) ... All occurred jumping up to grab a rebound during basketball.. -1st and 3rd TEARS were Deja Vue, triggered by to much pressure hitting the meniscus after coming down and landing side ways spraining my ankle outward...that second of standing on the sprained ankle.. was enough stress that the TEAR occurred. -2nd tear was just landing on the side/heel after coming down from a jump... This was first day out after months off... went to hard to fast. -Another point - IT is said that when the Meniscus develops the Meniscal Cyst that 100% of the time surgery is needed because the type of tear associated with the Cyst occurrence... I can tell you that I have NEVER received SURGERY for any of my meniscal tears... and they have ALL healed on their own. I also do not attribute previous meniscal tears, to others that have occurred..I do not believe they are related in anyway... I believe I fully recovered and it is simply bad luck.
@@berngalvin967 I have just had a mri and I have a horizontal meniscus tear and miniscus cyst I believe this happened 2 weeks ago as it was then my knee doubled in size and I could not walk with out pain I have took 2 weeks off work and it looks kinda normal now and I don't have any pain when walking and I can fully bend my knee but I am not sure if It will get worse if I don't have surgery or if I can fix it myself ie pain management and full use
@@berngalvin967 pl guide me. I have had a meniscal tear 3 months ago. I dont have any pains now after months of rest and washing my knee with hot water 2 3 times a day resting alot as I am retired now, but when I stand up for my knee swells up and the right side if my knee I see a small portion or vain protruding. I have lateral meniscal tear in my right knee. Please tell me how did your got healed uo.
I just had a meniscus surgery a coupe of days ago because it was torn and wanted to get some input on the topic but when I saw a couple of guys ¨dressed up like surgeons¨ I thought it was going to be a complete different video. I am blown away for the simplicity and how this topic was explained as well as the range of information you covered. I was told by my surgeon after arthroscopy that he noticed my cartilage been very damaged so in my follow up appointment I´ll know more about how will this impact my life quality in the long term or if this is a signal of arthritis on my knee. Thank you for your service to the online community.
So informative. Thank you. I was an athlete my entire life and once I turned 42 years old, which is current, my body has broken down one piece at a time. I am no longer able to 90% of what I was able to do before. Psychologically and physically that has done a number on me. Aside from my primary physician and ortho, any further info for common exercises would be appreciated.
Hi M.P.A. Sorry for the delayed response. You are very welcome. We all age. We do have a couple videos for general leg strengthening which are for total knee replacements but are good for anyone. Hope that helps. Good luck and thanks for watching.
Your description matches my reality at a 100%,at age 50 after an entire life commited to sports recreationally my knees started to break down and a domino effect has caused imbalance in hips and low back,i've been laim for the past 8 years and after all sort of procedures nothing seems to help, I swim with a pool buoy three times per week, do floor pilates and try to keep up with life since depression is always present, I wonder if all the sports I did were really worth!
Just discovered your channel and I am absolutely amazed at the way in which you simplify the topic.. very understandable for lay people.. I am a dancer and was just diagnosed with a torn meniscus in BOTH KNEES!! The pain is unbearable.. Exactly what you said occurred.. X-rays then had the MRI... now I am weighing my options.. seeing a specialist soon.. now I have the background information I need to make a more informed decision.. thank you thank you.. and you are both easy on the 👀s...🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰💯❤️🌺🙏🏽
Hi Feminine One. Thanks so much for your kind words! So glad we could help in any small way. Best of luck with your upcoming specialist visit. Keep us posted! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
I recently had an MRI which confirms I may need surgery for a meniscus injury. Your video was very informative and allayed some of my fears and answered my questions on how to proceed. Many thanks from the USA.
I have a large tear and root detached per MRI. Having this surgery on April11th and praying it is successful. I’ve never had any knee issues and have hardly any arthritis. Doc hated to take it out and is hoping to repair with a lengthy recovery. 🙏🏻
Just had my Arthriscopic meniscus repair, knee locked at 30 degree angle in brace for 2 weeks. Hurts an awful lot. Mine happened nearly 5 months ago an yet still able to repair it. Other Doctors at practice i went to told me its rare to repair a tear an it's usually partially removed or totally removed. Excellent explanation guys, an I'll be 49 in October now i see what "getting old" is all about and I'm not liking it much lol. You Doctors are awsome, Thank you for what u do
Thanks so much James. So glad your procedure worked out for you. Yes middle age sucks. All the best! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
I had an MRI a few weeks ago do to persistent knee pain. I've had a Bakers cyst behind that right knee for years and sometimes it grows and sometimes it shrinks. The pain was just getting to me so finally the doc ordered the x ray then MRI and saw some fluid in the knee and decided try 1 cortisone injection if that showed relief then 3 shots of some injection, I forget what it is to lubricate , maybe hyaluronan injections . The MRI didn't show a ton of stuff and he definitely did not feel a meniscus surgery was appropriate. So I got my first shot and 4 days later I'm drying the windshield of my truck hanging from the front edge of the hood. My fingers slipped and I went backwards stepping off the running board with my right foot. The moment the right foot touched the ground I felt a pop, loud and painful. I thought for sure I had torn my ACL, again. X ray showed nothing, but the MRI said: Complex tearing of the posterior horn of the medial meniscus including the inner third of the posterior horn medial meniscus extending to superior and inferior articular surfaces which is new, since 9/5/2018 plus Truncation and subtle tearing posterior horn of lateral meniscus similar appearance in the interval. and last Early degenerative joint disease of medial and lateral femoral-tibial compartments. So I go to the Doc today and he recommends the surgery, which I will most definitely have done, my orthopedic surgeon is good and he reconstructed the ACL in that knee like 12 years ago and I've been biking and snowboarding on it with out any trouble. Now at the tender age of 66 I have no desire to stop either activity and sit on the side lines waiting for nature to take it's course. All this progress in medicine is to be taken advantage of. The only sad thing is that as good as my doctor is as a surgeon he lacks in explaining exactly what the damage is. Maybe the words sound worse than the actual events, but I sure would like to understand it better. I found your video to be really excellent at explaining all the different stages of a tear of the menisci, I wish all doctors would take a little more time to fully explain to their patients exactly what is going on.
i have my surgery this thursday and im so nervous for the pain that comes afterward. i tore my meniscus when i was pregnant now i’m 3 months postpartum and finally getting it fixed hopefully i heal fast and get back to being myself again!! i have the tear where it is in my knee but they said they would put surtures
Hi Christina. It sounds like you have a torn meniscus that can be repaired. There is some pain after surgery but with proper medication, icing, rest and physio you can get through it. Good luck! And follow us on Instagram!
Talking With Docs hey docs so i’m going into my 4th week of recovery woohoo! but, i started physio and bending my knee sounds like the sutures are moving which doesn’t sound good to me it makes a squeaking noise when i walk sometimes or when i bend it. should i be worried?
Ciora Nixon on a scale of 1-10 the pain right after surgery when I woke up was a 10 forsure. After that the pain when down to 9 and 8 after the days went by. I got narcotics for the pain but they made me dizzy so I stopped taking them but if they work for you, go right on. Trust me I was so scared it was my first surgery but it went well. I am walking and have back pain but it’s better than the pain I had before. I hope it all goes well for you and make sure you don’t give up when you have PT(physical therapy) !! It will get better. 💖
Christina-I have my orthopedist appointment tomorrow to go over the bucket handle tear of my lateral meniscus. I am currently 15 weeks pregnant. Why did you opt to wait until post-baby?
Knee has been locking up with pain for a few hours at a time intermittently. MRI in 2 days. Now I know what questions to ask my doctor after the MRI. Very helpful video.
Amazing video explained it better then my surgeon! I'm that rare case buckle handle tear lateral meniscus with a locked knee and torn collateral ligaments for two weeks with Aussie doctors had no idea what was going on til i finally got into the surgeons office and he operated that day. Today is 8 days Post OP so much harder then the standard recovery still cant bend my leg fully and movement is minimal! Hardest recovery i've been through. You legends have helped me understand what all those big words meant and gives me piece of mind.
Hi Danni! So glad we could help and that you are on the road to recovery. Yes, the lateral bucket is rare and will take some time to recover from. Lots of hard work should get you there. Thanks for watching and good luck going forward!
Hi Roshni. Keep working hard with physiotherapy. Consider using ice and or medication to control the pain to allow you to push through some of the discomfort. Thanks for watching.
Nice Video, Docs Any suggestion for this MRI result: Horizontal tear involving the anterior horn of the lateral meniscus. Discoid appearance of the lateral meniscus. The knee with pain can not stretch straight
Hi Jason. It is difficult to give advice specifically on just an MRI result however if you have pain along the lateral joint line that is aggravated with kneeling squatting and planting and twisting type activities it may be related to the tear in the meniscus. A decision on what to do should be based on your symptoms and how they are progressing. Hope that helps!
Thank you so much, Docs! MRI result suggests ligament and bone are normal. I feel much better now than a week ago. But my leg can not stretches straight because of the knee. My doctor suggests me go for surgery but I just want to be conservative and watch for a few more weeks to see how they are progressing. Thank you again! Your video is really informative.
@@jasonli1420 So what happened? I have 1) Horizontal tear involving the posterior horn and body of the medial meniscus. 2) Bakers 's cyst. 3) Mild tricompartmental degenerate joint disease. 4) Small to moderate joint effusion.
My surgery #1 at the age of 19 was the removal of the meniscus. Sitting here now with a polar ice cube on my knee as I recover from surgery #7 total knee replacement at age 56. The meniscus is very important!
@@davidh6838 yes. It was damaged and stuck within the joint so I could not fully straighten my knee. It was a long time ago, perhaps now a days some part of it would have been saved.
Hi Lana. If the tear is acute and depending on its location, sometimes they can be repaired. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Hi Docs, thanks for this very informative video! I have been recently diagnosed with a lateral meniscus tear after doing one squat too heavy at CrossFit 3 weeks ago. Since then I’ve been having pain occasionally while walking as well as bending my knee past a certain point. While I try a conservative (non-surgical) approach first, is there a time frame by which should I consider doing surgery instead? I do wish to return to sports, something that I’m unable to do right now due to the pain (definitely no running for me). In the meantime, should I avoid all sports activities - will that worsen the tear and subsequently long term prognosis of my knee? Thanks!
Hi Kimberly. Thanks for the question. In general, patients will often 6 weeks of non operative treatment and reassess their pain and dysfunction at that point. If your tear is confirmed on an MRI, the decision to perform surgery is really up to the patient. Yes some activities can worsen the pain and potentially aggravate the tear so trying to avoid anything that hurts a lot or is high impact is generally advised especially at the beginning. And it is always best to discuss more specific questions with your supervising health care professional. Hope that helps. And thanks for watching.
I am a 56 year old male life-long tennis player. When you get a moment would you be so kind as to offer your thoughts of the report below - should I get the meniscectomy? Thank you in advance for any input you have time to provide! With gratitude. Medial compartment -Medial meniscus: There is a complex peripherally extruded medial meniscal tear. The tear mostly involves the posterior horn and meniscal body. -Cartilage: There is grade 4 chondral loss with mild subchondral edema. Small osteophytes are present. Lateral compartment: All normal Posterolateral Corner: All Normal Anterior Compartment: -Patellar cartilage: grade 4 control loss along the medial facet with mild subchondral edema. - Trochlear cartilage: multifocal control fissuring with subchondral edema along the central trochlea. Small osteophytes. -Hoffa fat pad: mild edema Popliteal cyst: small popliteal cyst Impression: 1. complex peripherally extruded medial meniscal tear. Grade 4 chondral loss in the medial compartment and along the medial facet of the Patella. 2. small joint effusion and popliteal cyst.
My knee started hurting recently when i try to squat or when i try to stand up from a squat...(it does feel like its locked...) So months ago when I was walking, there is a pop sound and when im climbing up the stairs, it starts to hurt. But it went away after a while so i thought nothing of it. However the pain came back again... So im wondering if it is caused by meniscus tear or calcium deficiency ...
Hi j.xyx. Thanks for the question. It is hard to say definitively what the problem is but calcium deficiency would rarely cause those kinds of symptoms. It may be a torn meniscus but it really depends on the location of the pain. It can be intermittent like that. The best way to determine the cause for sure is to be examined and possibly have some imaging done. Hopefully that helps. Good luck.
I'm 55 and in good health, not fat, and was just walking when I screwed up my Miniscus. I was just walking slightly faster than normal and pushing off from my right foot BANG electricity, pain, and knee locked up. Man it sucks to get old.
Hi John. At this point there is a lot of research taking place with respect to stem cell treatment. There is however no convincing evidence that shows stem cell treatment can heal a torn meniscus. Time will tell.
Talking With Docs Nor does surgery fix the meniscus and pain. After my surgery, pain was better but still had pain. Doc had “trimmed it up” he said. After healing which was horrible (I can’t imagine pain after knee replacement nor being drugged up constantly), my knee always felt like the henge (back part of knee) was not stable. How can knee be stabilized?
I’m a 27 y/o avid weightlifter (M). I started noticing low level pain in my left knee about 2 months ago, and am finally going to orthopedic doc tomorrow to get an assessment. I have difficulty bending my knee deeply, it feels locked up and the pain is primarily in the front of my knee. Tried icing and resting for weeks and unfortunately only provided temporary relief. I think I do have a meniscus tear, however, seeing mixed opinions online about surgery. Some say most meniscus injuries can heal themselves. We will see.
I just found out i have torn my lateral meniscus horizontally & also have a baker’s cyst. I am hoping it will heal it’s self. I was recommended that i need surgery but if my knee isn’t painful than i should not go ahead with surgery. That was from my family physician. Thank you for this video. Very helpful.
Hi Katherine. Sorry to hear that you have a torn meniscus. It is very common. We agree that if you do not have any pain, keep doing what you are doing and see what happens. You can always decide to have surgery at a later date. Best of luck and thanks for watching.
Hi Ken, good question. There is ongoing research about injecting platelet rich plasma into the knee for a torn meniscus and arthritis. The findings at this point are not conclusive as to its benefit but there are many anecdotal and early reports that certain cases may benefit from such an injection. It is always prudent to review the risk and benefits of any procedure with your treating surgeon as well as the expected outcome. Good luck
Great video! I got more information from you than my actual doctor. This video indeed helped me understand and be able to make a better informed decision.
Thia video made me feel better after my knee pain started a few dya ago on the inside area. Didn't wanna be off of work for a longtime if surgery was needed, thanks guys!
Great video! Such great info. I had a MRI done about a week ago and have gotten the results back on it. I was told that I had a torn medial meniscus and knee bilateral. When I hear of the symptoms of a torn meniscus, I hear how the knee locks, swells and lots of pain. I have very little to no pain now, ( i did in the beginning) , it has never locked on me, but it has been swollen now for almost 2 years or more. Two years ago when i found out, I did physical therapy. It did help with the pain but not the swelling. With the 1st MRI 2 years ago, i was told I need surgery. Now 2 years later with another MRI, Dr. said the tear has gotten worst, but I still have no pain or locking. I don’t want to have surgery. I am still able to walk and exercise as much as I like and I am scared that the surgery could change that. The two procedures he say I need are a partial medial meniscectomy, hght and a chondroplasty patellofemoral joint, please, can you explain these 2 procedures. Thank you in advance for your help.
Hi cocogonenatural. Those are all very sensible questions and a practical approach. Typically the operation is to treat pain rather than swelling. We tell our patients they can continue with activities as tolerated even if they do have a tear diagnosed on MRI. The partical medial meniscectomy is where we remove the torn part of the meniscus through the camera (arthroscopy). The chondroplasty refers to smoothing some of the cartilage along the patella and the groove of the femur (trochlea). Pain is the best guide to whether or not you should proceed to the next step. Hope that helps. And thanks for watching.
I am 45 and twisted my knee getting out of the car about 2 weeks ago. It has been sore since with certain movements causing severe pain. I had microfracture surgery on the same knee 3 years ago which was very helpful and up until now has not caused me any problems . I see my family doctor next week. I am hoping to not have surgery as being on crutches for 6 weeks was absolutely horrible. Thanks for this informative video.
Hi Theresa75. Sorry to hear about your trouble. Yes rest, ice and medication can help. It may be related to a tear of the meniscus but often happens when two arthritic areas get in contact with certain positions. Hopefully it gets better! Thanks for watching and for subscribing if you did.
Very informative video. Currently have a torn in each knee. One is 15 years old, doesn't lock or hurt any longer fortunately. Used to lock and I would have to grab my toe and pull my leg back as if stretching my quad. The joint would open and the meniscus would get free from the joint allowing me to straighten it again. The other knee is new, doesn't lock but is much more painful than when I tore the first one. Really painful. Only thing about this video was when he mentioned prescribing pain med. Everyone's pain tolerance is different but pain meds are scary. That part of the video didn't age too well. Live with the pain and you won't have to worry about becoming an addict and ruining your life over a meniscus tear. I may be speaking from experience.
My entire meniscus was removed when I was 12.... I have arthritis now 15 years later still in a severe amount of pain. I didn't need PT when I first had it done but recently had PT because of the pain. Getting a brace tomorrow as my work is just stairs and doing them about 14 times a day has been causing my knee to give out
I fell down the stairs while carrying my 28-pound granddaughter. I somehow managed to protect her so she wouldn’t get hurt, but in exchange I badly injured my knee. It bent in the normal way, but somehow it did it so forcefully (like slamming a door) that it was instantly shot through with a searing hot pain, and I heard a snapping noise. These last 6 weeks I’ve tried to “baby” it myself with RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation) and Advil, but to no avail. The pain is excruciating sometimes. I saw my family doc today and he did some manipulation tests, two of which were so painful it took my breath away and then I cried. He believes it’s a torn meniscus so he’s sending me for an x-ray and PT. I am desperate for relief. I’ve never known pain like this; I can’t walk without limping. Stairs are almost impossible and the worst thing of all - sorry to be so blunt - is standing up from or sitting down on the toilet. I truly have to psych myself up to go because I know it’s going to be sooo painful to sit and stand. Thank you for this informative video. You have given me hope for a brighter tomorrow!
Hi 120wpm. Thanks for sharing your story. Hopefully with time the pain will subside. Yes xray is a good start and if your doctor feels that it is appropriate they may order an MRI. Good luck and thanks for watching.
So can you a menially torn meniscus heal by stopping the activity (surfing) that the injury occurred over a few weeks? Excellent breakdown. Thanks very much🙏
I know you are not talking about what I’m getting ready to ask but…… can you guys do a segment or a you tube session on gout. Ouch. I have arthritic gout & it is so painful at times. I don’t eat shelled fish 😢😢; my fav is lobster, crab, & shrimp… 😢😢; I don’t eat pork or beef… but recently I did eat some cabbage that had very tiny pieces of pork.. it was soooo good but the repercussion is so painful! Anyhew; I look forward to a session about gout!! 😊😊 Thank you & God bless you & yours…. I love what you guys are doing !! ❤❤
Many thanks for this video. I am 6 days post Meniscus tear surgery and doing very well. Between my Orthopedist's information and your excellent video, I was well prepared for the surgery and what to expect afterwards.
So glad to hear you are doing well and that we could help in any small way Linda! Best of luck during your recovery. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
Thank you both for taking the time to post this very informative video. I felt like you were talking directly to me- have a medial meniscus tear and onset of Arthritis (runs in the family). I'm 37 and really want to get back to being normal again in all activities (even walking is painful and I can't bend knee fully without pain). Have the sharp stabbing pain when knee is moved a certain way and have been suffering for 4 months now. Thank you for making me feel more educated on what I am dealing with.
I have had degenerative torn meniscus on my both knees. I believe it was a cumulative traumatic events on them from my sports and other activities. Arthroscopic procedures done to repair the " hanging hair". I wish I was told how much damaged meniscus (in % ) has been removed. Nevertheless my knees feel great, but the true can't be hide that low atmospheric pressure can aggravate knee pain usually around the medial area, I guess some arthritic activity is happening and I have to live with that. Best advice from my surgeon that I seriously took was to stop running and permanently and I too believe it is right for me not to induce pain anymore. Thank you for sharing your discussion and questions on the topic. Keep up a great work. Cheers
Subscribed.. Docs, The pain that used to occur in the initial days after the injury, has reduced significantly. But i also back then, used to get popping sensations and sound from the knee while making my leg straight. It still occurs every time i make my leg straight from bend. But no pain.. So does it require special attention if it's not causing any pain or not interfering with daily life but keeps making cracking/popping sound everytime? Hope it doesn't increase chances of arthritis more than how it would otherwise be?!? (I am 24, was injured while playing a sport)
We worry less about the sounds and more about the pain. If it bothers you an MRI is not unreasonable. Maybe see your doctor and have a chat. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thank you, Dr. Paul Zalzal and Dr. Brad Weening for your informative and helpful videos! I have a meniscus tear and osteoarthritis. -From your video, is surgery my only option? I heard that if someone has a meniscus tear surgery and osteoarthritis, inevitably, that person will need to have a knee replacement. -My knee locks out when I get into certain positions and it's painful to come out of these locked positions.-I am 66 years old. -I received differing recommendations from 2 Orthopedists. Both recommend surgery. However, one doctor told me I could return to work immediately and resume my daily activities, including walking or riding a bike on a flat surface (just avoid pivoting movements). Another doctor said I could do no activity for about three weeks. Thank you for any advice you can offer me (I sent my X-ray pics via e-mail).
Thank you--I've torn mine four times in the past four months. I start feeling better and increase activity and POP, back to square one. I know now what's happening to me.
I don't think you can tear a meniscus several times, the meniscus is a very thin layer of cartilage and, at least in my case, I couldn't walk after my knee pop. You should find a Dr
Hi Doctors, I'm Thobile from SA. I just seen your video on your UA-cam channel of torn meniscus diagnosis. December 2018 on the 14th I had a knee athroscopy surgery. My orthopedic surgeon put me on braces, I attended physio and finished all my sessions. After 8 weeks or so it seemed to get better, I was attending to my surgeon for check ups until he was pleased. Months after the surgery the pain is back and now on both knees extending to the feet. I can't remember when last I managed to walk normally and sleep peacefully with no pains on both knees and feet. This has affected badly on my life and work, I'm no longer the person I used to be physically as this restricts me. I manage with soft flip flops, any other shoes especially closed or tekkies hurt me more. I'm hoping to receive your positive feedback. Thank you so much. Regards, Thobile.
Hi Thobile. So it is uncommon that you would retear your meniscus without significant trauma. If the pain is radiating down to both of your feet, it is unlikely related to your meniscus. There can be many causes. Best to be reassessed by your family physician and go from there. Thanks for watching.
@@TalkingWithDocs thanks Docs for responding, I'm from seeing my orthopedic surgeon today and last week Monday. Last week Monday he injected my left knee with steroids and the pain did not get any better . Today he explained that when he had the athroscopy my cartilage was damaged/teared. He now is also puzzled as to what could be the problem with both my knees. Both of them are painful and goes down to the feet. As MRI scans do not show anything, he is wanting to have another look on both of the knees next week Tuesday the 25th. I honestly do not want to go through another surgery... I am confused, hurt, in pains everyday and night, my life is affected, I am mostly chair and couch ridden. I hope you can assist, with perhaps suggesting another medical route or a Doctor specializing in a certain field. thank you very much.
Well sorry to hear that Judy. It may improve. If it doesn’t you may require arthroscopy if there is minimal arthritis. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
So glad I watched this. 2nd time tearing the same knee :( I'm Canadian but now living in the UK and my health care experience here thus far has made me a bit frustrated. Just had my mri and waiting on results and really hoping no need for surgery as being in a new country I have no doubt the doctors are good but still makes me nervous. So hope I don't need to go that route. But it's been 2 months now and still can not fully straighten my knee. But after seeing this video I feel more confident about what to expect. Thank you!
Hi Kelly. Thanks for the positive feedback. The MRI should give you much more information about what is going on. Inability to fully extend is an issue that should be addressed. It can be related to many factors. Take comfort in knowing that the UK training system for doctors is very similar to Canadian standards. Good luck!
@@amandalovehsoes I got my mri results 2 weeks ago but for some reason the doctor here now has to get a referral from someone else to tell me my next step?? Im tired of waiting so Ive taken into my own hands ...got a copy od my results and had my first session with an osteopath today. Along with my own stretching I am finally feeling more hopeful and doing everything I can to avoid surgery. Thank you for the inquiry :)
CAN YOU TREAT MENISCAL TEAR WITH PLATELET RICH PLASMA? I HAVE IT DOWN IN JULY 2018 THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTOR SAYS BUT FEEL WITH PHYSICAL THERAPY I AM GOING FOR THE SECOND ONE IN SEPTEMBER. THANKS
How was your experience with PRP method? My wife has knee Degenerative meniscus problem. One our doctors here recommended HYALURONIC ACID treatment and then after PRP. What you suggest? How was your experience? Does it work to help or heal or make yourself walkable?
I turn 59 this February and simply stepped downward about 6 inches and felt incredible pain! I did my best to ignore for two days at work. On Monday, the VA Hospital tried an xray then an MRI; a torn medial miniscus. A very degenerative/ arthritic knee.
That sounds like what happened to me last year, stepped down to go outside a clients home and the step below was a lot further down than I thought and I got that horrible pain as well. Previously had an MRI that showed a torn meniscus of the lateral horn, so I think that may have been the reason for the intense pain. I’m guessing any. Osteophytes could have been the reason, maybe. Anyway I had a TKR in that knee Feb 24th this year and healing up nicely. Anyone debating knee replacement who is in stage 3-4, I highly recommend.
Hi Doctors I went upstairs and then something pop a second time in the last few years and it hurt pretty bad. It is my left knee on the outside side. What is it ?
It is hard to say. It could be your lateral meniscus or your IT band. Need to get assessed if it is giving you trouble. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Very informative.... I’m having surgery tomorrow, also have a cyst to decompress.... is it safe to assume that once you guys get in there and see what it really looks like... if the OA is that bad, you would be able to, with confidence, say it time for a partial/full joint replacement??
Dear talking with docs hi I want to know what causes pain on the inside of the side of the left knee I been in so much pain inside the side of the left knee ps thanks Rachel Grant
Great videos! I was diagnosed with a tear with an in office fiber optic scope. Do you feel that is better than MRI or is it better to get MRI if considering surgery? So far treating with injections to hold off surgery (sometimes works, sometimes not). Any other non surgical options?
Hi Lynn. Not familiar with the scope diagnosis. MRI is currently the gold standard other than surgery. Meds, injections, physio, topicals and bracing are the non op choices. Best of luck to you. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Hi Docs, thanks so much for your helpful information. I had arthroscopic surgery to debride a meniscus tear. I've been doing my PT exercises but still having sharp, stabbing pains when going up or down stairs or trying to slowly run a couple of steps. I also still have swelling in the knee, I have been diagnosed with arthritis although I don't feel any pain from this. My surgery was 4 months ago, do I have another tear possibly? I was told I have only 50% left of the meniscus. Thank you !
Hi Terri. Thanks for sharing your story. People can retear however this is rare. A lot of the symptoms will fluctuate in severity. If it is severe and persists, the best way to assess it is with another MRI unfortunately. Thanks for watching and good luck.
I have psoriatic arthritis in my knees & other joints (was on DMARDs for it). I ended up with a suspected meniscus tear 10wk ago just from over-stepping, as I didnt realise the floor sloped downward in a building I was leaving. Ive only just been referred for an MRI now, as I still can't fully straighten my leg and have pain when trying to walk/manoeuvre. I have been and still am really worried about the outcome - Im not even 40 yet, and have a toddler I can't keep up with. Your videos are helping me prepare for the MRI and follow-up appointments - I always have really high anxiety over anything medical.
I wish I could have been under your care or been counselled by two " Most Excellent Dudes Doctors" such as you before having my knee scoped! Again! Regards!
Wonderful explanation. I have a grade III meniscus tear in my rt knee. Seeing the video has helped me a lot to understand the type of problem I have and I feel well informed now to absorb what my dr. would say.
These two Docs are in another league when it comes to describing the symptoms and treatments for a meniscal tear. Thank you guys!!!
Thanks Colwyn! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Talking With Docs. Enjoyed listening to you guys I just had knee arthroscopy & partial menisectomy. Understand more clearly now, Thank you
Talking With Docs I was told that I have a severe tear of the meniscus with arthritis behind the knee. My doctor recommended surgery. I had an MRI done and they said it was shown there. I'm supposed to have the surgery in 15 days. If it is a severe tear, can it heal on its own? Do I absolutely need to have the surgery or are they just opting for that for money purposes? Please respond asap! Also, what would be the standard treatment?
@@GODSlove1358 Too bad you didn't get a reply before surgery date - or even after. Maybe you got a second opinion. I hope so.
Anne Bradley I know right! But I did go forward with the procedure and I'm a couple weeks out so I'm still in the healing process. I had an amazing staff of surgeons and doctors present during my surgery so everything went extremely well. I had my post-op visit, and my doctor stated that everything is healing beautifully. I thank God and Jesus for ensuring my safety and protection all the way through.
I had two meniscus tears in my right knee, and x-rays show I'm bone on bone arthritic so not a case for meniscus repair. Instead, my surgeon said I'm a candidate for a total knee replacement. After 4 months, I couldn't be happier with the surgical outcome. I can now fully straighten my leg to 0 degrees, and can now bend it to 123' flexion. My left knee only goes to 121'. And no more knee pain, now scheduled to get the left knee TKR in May 2023.
By the way, just watched a medical program on a Japanese station (NHK) where they extracted pieces of the torn meniscus and combined it with stem cells from the patient. Once out of the culture, the stem cells mixed with the "chopped up" meniscus was injected into the patient's knee. Ultimately the stem cell cocktail helped to regrow the meniscus. More clinical trials underway, but this sounds promising.
Keep up the good work!
Glad your total knee is doing well. Hopefully stem cells will help. Time will tell
Dear docs,
You guys are amazing.
By chance I came across your UA-cam video titled torn meniscus - diagnostics and treatment and I was very happy with the information presented! It was so clear and easy to understand!
I am 49 years old and I used to run a lot. I used to suffer from occasional knee pain after my runs, but nothing that wouldn't go away after a couple of days rest.
About 9 months ago after I started a new physical activity; boxing. I soon developed knee pain which would not go away. Back then my knee was hurting so much that I was limping heavily.
My pain has now almost completely disappeared and so has the limping. I would rate my knee pain as 1 out of 10. I never had any issues with a locked knee. My only limitation right now is being unable to reach my glutes with my heel (ie when I am standing on my right leg and trying to bend my left leg back so that the heel can touch my glute).
I recently had an MRI done at the Jewish General hospital in Montreal. The results came out and I was diagnosed with a minor tear of the medial meniscus and a sprained ACL.
As I said my pain is quasi non existent. I am able to do all my daily activities regularly except running. I have stopped running and I have decided to stick to walking. I am able to walk up to 8 kms without issues or pain.
I consulted an orthopedic surgeon recently and he said I should have surgery.
I am very undecided and skeptical on the benefits of arthroscopic surgery. I am also afraid that a surgery would possibly lead to future arthritis without necessarily eliminating my knee pain completely.
I would love to have your opinion on the matter. Should I get surgery or not?
Thank you so much!
Hi Carlos. You are very kind. We feel surgery is for pain or to potentially allow you to do other activities. There is no guarantee so if you are happy with what you are doing we would typically say wait. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
most doctors don't have a time to explain which the DOCS explained us. I really appreciated and learned a lot about the torn meniscus which I have. Thank you very much.
Hi reiko. That is exactly why we made this channel. Thanks for watching and so glad it has been helpful. Spread the word
Wow, I don't usually comment on these informative videos but, I have to give you accolades. Short sweet and to the point. Extremely informative well-done eh!!
Hi GoTeamCook. Thanks for the positive words. We do our best to try and keep it simple yet useful. Glad we could help!
I can't have an MRI because of a spinal stimulator. I had arthroscopic surgery 9 months ago but the first week I felt and heard something pop. My whole leg swelled and turned black and blue. I have more pain now than before my surgery. What do you recommend?
Excellent information for those of us dealing with chronic, recurrent knee issues. Appreciate the detailed, understandable explanations for the indications of arthroscopy, MRI vs x-rays or US, repair indications vs TKR, and other treatment modalities, and arthritis vs more acute tears of the meniscus. Thank you!
Welcome
"The meniscus doesn't like to heal itself because it doesn't have a great blood supply" (6:58) This is great, useful info and explains why surgery might be a good option. Thanks
Hi corsomagenta. Glad we could help and you are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
It’s not supposed to have blood supply, it uses a synovial fluid instead. I would have to think this fluid provides the necessary nutrients gathered from the blood which is outside but in the vicinity of the knee. Has anyone attempted to inject more of this fluid to promote healing?
So thorough! Thank you for this. Just got an MRI. I’m hoping for a tear and NOT arthritis
Good luck to you Kayla! Keep us posted. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
54-years-old, life-long distance runner, had the exact same pain in both knees hit me at age 44. I had tears in both medial meniscus. Underwent arthroscopy on each, about one year apart, and the dr. said he removed 70% of the meniscus. He also told me 6 weeks before running again, but that was way too soon. 8 months later I was 100% back to normal, full range of motion, and no pain after running. 10 years later I am running 3-6 miles a day, pain free. After watching this video, I guess the arthritis will catch up with me in the future.
Does the meniscus ever regenerate?
Hi pam. It may but runners like to run. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Thanks ,you give me hope
@@annshirley2267 I did three miles of intervals on the track Sunday, a 9.5 mile run last Tuesday. Wear good shoes, and back off if you are hurting. Good luck!
This video Is so easy to understand, these doctors are very professional and knows what they are taking about!
Thank so much!
Hi lovebois12. Thank you so much for the positive feedback. We are working hard to keep it straightforward and to the point. Good luck and thanks for watching!
I am a retired nurse as of one year ago from the facility you both work in. Nothing but good to say about these two doctors. These videos are excellent and answer just about every question a patient can think of. Love the humour and relaxed atmosphere! I do have a question. I have a medial meniscal tear in my left knee. This tear happened last Christmas Eve and I am still in excrutiating pain. That aside, I also get a searing pain like an ice pick that feels like its going through the back of my knee cap. May be referred pain? Sometimes this pain happens when I am not feeling pain in the meniscus. On top of this I have a large Bakers cyst I am told is caused from all the swelling from the fluid around my knee. My biggest "concern" with all of this is the cyst. I get terrible pressure at the back of my knee that travels down the back of my leg to my calf. Intermittently. Quite often my knee becomes very mottled. Could this be compression of the popliteal artery? Can this cyst be removed during arthroscopy at the same time meniscus tear is repaired? Hopefully I am worrying about nothing! I have an appointment in three weeks but feel a little anxious.
Hi Susan. Thanks for your kind words. So the long and short of it is that an appointment is a good idea. The cyst is typically caused by the tear and/or some arthritis that may be causing the pain under the knee cap. Yes there could be pressure on both the arteries and veins in the back of your knee and that could cause pain and potentially the mottling. If you went on to have arthroscopy often the cyst will decompress however it is not really a discrete structure that you see and can remove per se. The cyst occurs because of fluid buildup and pressure inside your knee that sneaks out a valve between the muscles into the back of your knee. Hope that helps and good luck!
Very informative and insight into Treatment for a Torn Meniscus. I have a Torn Meniscus and I find it nice to understand the perspective of a Doc when dealing with a injury.
Hi Kay. Thanks so much for the positive feedback and for watching our channel. Good luck going forward.
Thanks so much for taking the time to make these informative videos. Husband is deciding on whether or not to do knee replacement surgery; he is bone on bone. Synivisc starting tomorrow with fingers crossed. You shed honest light on what to expect after surgery. He is 65 today and active...likes to hike (with pain now) in the mountains with elevation.
Hi David. You are very welcome. Good luck with the synvisc injections and the decision to potentially go ahead with surgery. Thanks for watching.
I’ve had arthritis in my knees since I was in my 20s. I’ve had nine arthritis related surgeries. It has been very beneficial to have the meniscus trimmed during my younger years even with substantial arthritis. .
Excellent info, I've been researching my symptoms and this is the best info I've seen so far. I just had X-Rays done and waiting for the results. I have the locked knee and sharp sudden pains in addition to the dull and stiff pains that also effect the other knee. I can't squat or kneel at all. The pain intensity comes and goes but flares up if I put weight on it for an extended period of time, not necessarily just walking. I'm in my 30's so my concern is that I'm arthritic already. Could an improper gait cause this damage? This came on gradually after years of working out on a treadmill and my concern is that I have ruined my joints in the process.
An improper gait can lead to abnormal loading of your joints and theoretically lead to damage but typically degeneration of the knees is caused by injuries (subtle or not so subtle) as well as general use and the aging process. It would likely be unfair to blame the treadmill entirely. Running does load the knees more than other activities but there are many runners that do not have arthritis. Hope that helps
Thanks again for the great info, I appreciate your time and attention.
NO SURGERY!!
I Tore my meniscus 3x (FML)... Here are my experiences..
1st - Was just shy of a full horizontal tear...took 9 months to heal and
gain FULL explosion in my jump back. (No Surgery) Right knee.
2nd - Was a long vertical tear.... took 7 months to heal and gain FULL
explosion back. Rested month 1...Played on it next 3 months... rested
the next 3 months. *When I played on it for 3 months, It would become
very swollen and ache, I would develop a tender Meniscal Cyst that
protruded from the side of my knee. (No Surgery) Left Knee
3rd - Is a smaller horizontal tear....Currently dealing with it.. Im
projecting a 2 month timetable to heal this one... I wont be using it in
sport so It an heal quicker... Physical Therapy to the max...Eat a
healthy diet and your body will want to heal that tear as quick as
possible. (Not getting Surgery) Left Knee...Slight Cyst.
-Every single TEAR occurred while Coming Down after jumping (exploding)
... All occurred jumping up to grab a rebound during basketball..
-1st and 3rd TEARS were Deja Vue, triggered by to much pressure hitting
the meniscus after coming down and landing side ways spraining my ankle
outward...that second of standing on the sprained ankle.. was enough
stress that the TEAR occurred.
-2nd tear was just landing on the side/heel after coming down from a
jump... This was first day out after months off... went to hard to fast.
-Another point - IT is said that when the Meniscus develops the Meniscal
Cyst that 100% of the time surgery is needed because the type of tear
associated with the Cyst occurrence... I can tell you that I have NEVER
received SURGERY for any of my meniscal tears... and they have ALL
healed on their own. I also do not attribute previous meniscal tears, to
others that have occurred..I do not believe they are related in
anyway... I believe I fully recovered and it is simply bad luck.
@@berngalvin967 I have just had a mri and I have a horizontal meniscus tear and miniscus cyst I believe this happened 2 weeks ago as it was then my knee doubled in size and I could not walk with out pain I have took 2 weeks off work and it looks kinda normal now and I don't have any pain when walking and I can fully bend my knee but I am not sure if It will get worse if I don't have surgery or if I can fix it myself ie pain management and full use
@@berngalvin967 pl guide me. I have had a meniscal tear 3 months ago. I dont have any pains now after months of rest and washing my knee with hot water 2 3 times a day resting alot as I am retired now, but when I stand up for my knee swells up and the right side if my knee I see a small portion or vain protruding. I have lateral meniscal tear in my right knee. Please tell me how did your got healed uo.
I just had a meniscus surgery a coupe of days ago because it was torn and wanted to get some input on the topic but when I saw a couple of guys ¨dressed up like surgeons¨ I thought it was going to be a complete different video. I am blown away for the simplicity and how this topic was explained as well as the range of information you covered. I was told by my surgeon after arthroscopy that he noticed my cartilage been very damaged so in my follow up appointment I´ll know more about how will this impact my life quality in the long term or if this is a signal of arthritis on my knee. Thank you for your service to the online community.
Hi Rod Rod. Glad we could help. And thanks for watching. Good luck
So informative. Thank you. I was an athlete my entire life and once I turned 42 years old, which is current, my body has broken down one piece at a time. I am no longer able to 90% of what I was able to do before. Psychologically and physically that has done a number on me. Aside from my primary physician and ortho, any further info for common exercises would be appreciated.
Hi M.P.A. Sorry for the delayed response. You are very welcome. We all age. We do have a couple videos for general leg strengthening which are for total knee replacements but are good for anyone. Hope that helps. Good luck and thanks for watching.
M. P.A. Fuck, I can relate. Heart goes out to you.. you used your body well, pushed it to limits.. going through the same
Your description matches my reality at a 100%,at age 50 after an entire life commited to sports recreationally my knees started to break down and a domino effect has caused imbalance in hips and low back,i've been laim for the past 8 years and after all sort of procedures nothing seems to help, I swim with a pool buoy three times per week, do floor pilates and try to keep up with life since depression is always present, I wonder if all the sports I did were really worth!
I really like your videos. You come across as two reasonable people wanting to help rather than someone on an ego trip. Thank you! 👍
Thanks so much Debbie. We would like to think so. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Tore my meniscus skiing. MRI next week. I live in Lake Tahoe and ski season is over for me. Thanks for the awesome explanation!
Hi o Field. Sad to hear the season is over. Good luck with the MRI. Glad we can help!
The best explanation on this topic I have seen. Thanks Docs!
You're very welcome!
Well done....Canadian Doctors are the BEST!!!
Hi Stephen. Thanks for the positive feedback and for watching.
@@TalkingWithDocs I've had a "few" surgeries in the Past!!!
Just discovered your channel and I am absolutely amazed at the way in which you simplify the topic.. very understandable for lay people.. I am a dancer and was just diagnosed with a torn meniscus in BOTH KNEES!! The pain is unbearable.. Exactly what you said occurred.. X-rays then had the MRI... now I am weighing my options.. seeing a specialist soon.. now I have the background information I need to make a more informed decision.. thank you thank you.. and you are both easy on the 👀s...🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰💯❤️🌺🙏🏽
Hi Feminine One. Thanks so much for your kind words! So glad we could help in any small way. Best of luck with your upcoming specialist visit. Keep us posted! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
EXCELLENT Informative Video! Thank you for sharing this valuable information!
Hi Kevin. You are very welcome. Thanks for watching.
I recently had an MRI which confirms I may need surgery for a meniscus injury. Your video was very informative and allayed some of my fears and answered my questions on how to proceed. Many thanks from the USA.
Hi Gary! Thanks for watching and you are very welcome. Good luck going forward.
WOW, you guys answered all my questions! Even better than my actual Dr. Thanks!
Hi Cuca R. Thanks so much and glad we could help!
I have a large tear and root detached per MRI. Having this surgery on April11th and praying it is successful. I’ve never had any knee issues and have hardly any arthritis. Doc hated to take it out and is hoping to repair with a lengthy recovery. 🙏🏻
Good luck Laura!
Thank you so much for doing this video. It gives very useful and practical informations. And I think you guys are cute!
Thank you Qi Li. Glad that you enjoyed the videos.
Just had my Arthriscopic meniscus repair, knee locked at 30 degree angle in brace for 2 weeks. Hurts an awful lot. Mine happened nearly 5 months ago an yet still able to repair it. Other Doctors at practice i went to told me its rare to repair a tear an it's usually partially removed or totally removed. Excellent explanation guys, an I'll be 49 in October now i see what "getting old" is all about and I'm not liking it much lol. You Doctors are awsome, Thank you for what u do
Thanks so much James. So glad your procedure worked out for you. Yes middle age sucks. All the best! Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
I had an MRI a few weeks ago do to persistent knee pain. I've had a Bakers cyst behind that right knee for years and sometimes it grows and sometimes it shrinks. The pain was just getting to me so finally the doc ordered the x ray then MRI and saw some fluid in the knee and decided try 1 cortisone injection if that showed relief then 3 shots of some injection, I forget what it is to lubricate , maybe hyaluronan injections . The MRI didn't show a ton of stuff and he definitely did not feel a meniscus surgery was appropriate. So I got my first shot and 4 days later I'm drying the windshield of my truck hanging from the front edge of the hood. My fingers slipped and I went backwards stepping off the running board with my right foot. The moment the right foot touched the ground I felt a pop, loud and painful. I thought for sure I had torn my ACL, again. X ray showed nothing, but the MRI said: Complex tearing of the posterior horn of the medial meniscus including the inner third of the posterior horn medial meniscus extending to superior and inferior articular surfaces which is new, since 9/5/2018 plus Truncation and subtle tearing posterior horn of lateral meniscus similar appearance in the interval. and last Early degenerative joint disease of medial and lateral femoral-tibial compartments. So I go to the Doc today and he recommends the surgery, which I will most definitely have done, my orthopedic surgeon is good and he reconstructed the ACL in that knee like 12 years ago and I've been biking and snowboarding on it with out any trouble. Now at the tender age of 66 I have no desire to stop either activity and sit on the side lines waiting for nature to take it's course. All this progress in medicine is to be taken advantage of.
The only sad thing is that as good as my doctor is as a surgeon he lacks in explaining exactly what the damage is. Maybe the words sound worse than the actual events, but I sure would like to understand it better. I found your video to be really excellent at explaining all the different stages of a tear of the menisci, I wish all doctors would take a little more time to fully explain to their patients exactly what is going on.
Going in for my surgery in a few weeks. This video really put my mind at ease on a lot of things!!!
So glad to hear that. Good luck
i have my surgery this thursday and im so nervous for the pain that comes afterward. i tore my meniscus when i was pregnant now i’m 3 months postpartum and finally getting it fixed hopefully i heal fast and get back to being myself again!! i have the tear where it is in my knee but they said they would put surtures
Hi Christina. It sounds like you have a torn meniscus that can be repaired. There is some pain after surgery but with proper medication, icing, rest and physio you can get through it. Good luck! And follow us on Instagram!
Talking With Docs hey docs so i’m going into my 4th week of recovery woohoo! but, i started physio and bending my knee sounds like the sutures are moving which doesn’t sound good to me it makes a squeaking noise when i walk sometimes or when i bend it. should i be worried?
Hi Christina I'm scheduled for my surgery in November. How was the pain after yours. I'm dreading to bend it afterwards
Ciora Nixon on a scale of 1-10 the pain right after surgery when I woke up was a 10 forsure. After that the pain when down to 9 and 8 after the days went by. I got narcotics for the pain but they made me dizzy so I stopped taking them but if they work for you, go right on. Trust me I was so scared it was my first surgery but it went well. I am walking and have back pain but it’s better than the pain I had before. I hope it all goes well for you and make sure you don’t give up when you have PT(physical therapy) !! It will get better. 💖
Christina-I have my orthopedist appointment tomorrow to go over the bucket handle tear of my lateral meniscus. I am currently 15 weeks pregnant. Why did you opt to wait until post-baby?
Knee has been locking up with pain for a few hours at a time intermittently. MRI in 2 days. Now I know what questions to ask my doctor after the MRI. Very helpful video.
Glad we could help Susan. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Great information. Thank you!
Very welcome David. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Amazing video explained it better then my surgeon!
I'm that rare case buckle handle tear lateral meniscus with a locked knee and torn collateral ligaments for two weeks with Aussie doctors had no idea what was going on til i finally got into the surgeons office and he operated that day.
Today is 8 days Post OP so much harder then the standard recovery still cant bend my leg fully and movement is minimal! Hardest recovery i've been through. You legends have helped me understand what all those big words meant and gives me piece of mind.
I also have the same problem for 1 month and still not getting a small amount of healing
Hi Danni! So glad we could help and that you are on the road to recovery. Yes, the lateral bucket is rare and will take some time to recover from. Lots of hard work should get you there. Thanks for watching and good luck going forward!
Hi Roshni. Keep working hard with physiotherapy. Consider using ice and or medication to control the pain to allow you to push through some of the discomfort. Thanks for watching.
Nice Video, Docs
Any suggestion for this MRI result: Horizontal tear involving the anterior horn of the lateral meniscus. Discoid appearance of the lateral meniscus. The knee with pain can not stretch straight
Hi Jason. It is difficult to give advice specifically on just an MRI result however if you have pain along the lateral joint line that is aggravated with kneeling squatting and planting and twisting type activities it may be related to the tear in the meniscus. A decision on what to do should be based on your symptoms and how they are progressing. Hope that helps!
Thank you so much, Docs! MRI result suggests ligament and bone are normal. I feel much better now than a week ago. But my leg can not stretches straight because of the knee. My doctor suggests me go for surgery but I just want to be conservative and watch for a few more weeks to see how they are progressing. Thank you again! Your video is really informative.
Good news Jason. Good luck.
@@jasonli1420 So what happened? I have 1) Horizontal tear involving the posterior horn and body of the medial meniscus. 2) Bakers
's cyst. 3) Mild tricompartmental degenerate joint disease. 4) Small to moderate joint effusion.
@@btexpress3356 have
My surgery #1 at the age of 19 was the removal of the meniscus. Sitting here now with a polar ice cube on my knee as I recover from surgery #7 total knee replacement at age 56. The meniscus is very important!
Did they fully remove your meniscus?
@@davidh6838 yes. It was damaged and stuck within the joint so I could not fully straighten my knee. It was a long time ago, perhaps now a days some part of it would have been saved.
We would agree Lana! Best of luck during your recovery. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Hi David H. In the mid 80s they may have. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Hi Lana. If the tear is acute and depending on its location, sometimes they can be repaired. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Hi Docs, thanks for this very informative video! I have been recently diagnosed with a lateral meniscus tear after doing one squat too heavy at CrossFit 3 weeks ago. Since then I’ve been having pain occasionally while walking as well as bending my knee past a certain point. While I try a conservative (non-surgical) approach first, is there a time frame by which should I consider doing surgery instead? I do wish to return to sports, something that I’m unable to do right now due to the pain (definitely no running for me). In the meantime, should I avoid all sports activities - will that worsen the tear and subsequently long term prognosis of my knee? Thanks!
Hi Kimberly. Thanks for the question. In general, patients will often 6 weeks of non operative treatment and reassess their pain and dysfunction at that point. If your tear is confirmed on an MRI, the decision to perform surgery is really up to the patient. Yes some activities can worsen the pain and potentially aggravate the tear so trying to avoid anything that hurts a lot or is high impact is generally advised especially at the beginning. And it is always best to discuss more specific questions with your supervising health care professional. Hope that helps. And thanks for watching.
I am a 56 year old male life-long tennis player. When you get a moment would you be so kind as to offer your thoughts of the report below - should I get the meniscectomy? Thank you in advance for any input you have time to provide! With gratitude.
Medial compartment
-Medial meniscus: There is a complex peripherally extruded medial meniscal tear. The tear mostly involves the posterior horn and meniscal body.
-Cartilage: There is grade 4 chondral loss with mild subchondral edema. Small osteophytes are present.
Lateral compartment: All normal
Posterolateral Corner: All Normal
Anterior Compartment:
-Patellar cartilage: grade 4 control loss along the medial facet with mild subchondral edema.
- Trochlear cartilage: multifocal control fissuring with subchondral edema along the central trochlea. Small osteophytes.
-Hoffa fat pad: mild edema
Popliteal cyst: small popliteal cyst
Impression:
1. complex peripherally extruded medial meniscal tear. Grade 4 chondral loss in the medial compartment and along the medial facet of the Patella.
2. small joint effusion and popliteal cyst.
My knee started hurting recently when i try to squat or when i try to stand up from a squat...(it does feel like its locked...)
So months ago when I was walking, there is a pop sound and when im climbing up the stairs, it starts to hurt. But it went away after a while so i thought nothing of it. However the pain came back again... So im wondering if it is caused by meniscus tear or calcium deficiency ...
Hi j.xyx. Thanks for the question. It is hard to say definitively what the problem is but calcium deficiency would rarely cause those kinds of symptoms. It may be a torn meniscus but it really depends on the location of the pain. It can be intermittent like that. The best way to determine the cause for sure is to be examined and possibly have some imaging done. Hopefully that helps. Good luck.
I'm 55 and in good health, not fat, and was just walking when I screwed up my Miniscus. I was just walking slightly faster than normal and pushing off from my right foot BANG electricity, pain, and knee locked up. Man it sucks to get old.
Yes Russell often no specific traumatic event. Thanks for watching and subscribing
What about stem cell treatment?
Hi John. At this point there is a lot of research taking place with respect to stem cell treatment. There is however no convincing evidence that shows stem cell treatment can heal a torn meniscus. Time will tell.
Talking With Docs Nor does surgery fix the meniscus and pain. After my surgery, pain was better but still had pain. Doc had “trimmed it up” he said. After healing which was horrible (I can’t imagine pain after knee replacement nor being drugged up constantly), my knee always felt like the henge (back part of knee) was not stable. How can knee be stabilized?
I’m a 27 y/o avid weightlifter (M). I started noticing low level pain in my left knee about 2 months ago, and am finally going to orthopedic doc tomorrow to get an assessment.
I have difficulty bending my knee deeply, it feels locked up and the pain is primarily in the front of my knee. Tried icing and resting for weeks and unfortunately only provided temporary relief.
I think I do have a meniscus tear, however, seeing mixed opinions online about surgery. Some say most meniscus injuries can heal themselves. We will see.
Time will tell J. Good luck tomorrow. Thanks for watching and subscribing
"a design flaw" - haha
Hi Lynda. We are imperfect beings. Thanks for watching.
I just found out i have torn my lateral meniscus horizontally & also have a baker’s cyst. I am hoping it will heal it’s self. I was recommended that i need surgery but if my knee isn’t painful than i should not go ahead with surgery. That was from my family physician. Thank you for this video. Very helpful.
Hi Katherine. Sorry to hear that you have a torn meniscus. It is very common. We agree that if you do not have any pain, keep doing what you are doing and see what happens. You can always decide to have surgery at a later date. Best of luck and thanks for watching.
what about Platelet Rich Plasma injections?
Hi Ken, good question. There is ongoing research about injecting platelet rich plasma into the knee for a torn meniscus and arthritis. The findings at this point are not conclusive as to its benefit but there are many anecdotal and early reports that certain cases may benefit from such an injection. It is always prudent to review the risk and benefits of any procedure with your treating surgeon as well as the expected outcome. Good luck
Great video! I got more information from you than my actual doctor. This video indeed helped me understand and be able to make a better informed decision.
Glad it was helpful!
You guys are AAAAWESOME! :):):):):):) Serious!
Thanks Nestor. We released another video today on both instagram and UA-cam about arthroscopic knee surgery. Hope you like it.
Thank you both for the vlog.
Very welcome Zatosan. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great information! thanks for sharing!
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Thia video made me feel better after my knee pain started a few dya ago on the inside area. Didn't wanna be off of work for a longtime if surgery was needed, thanks guys!
Hi carlos. Glad to hear we could help. Keep getting better and just pay attention to your symptoms and intervene as required. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Such great info. I had a MRI done about a week ago and have gotten the results back on it. I was told that I had a torn medial meniscus and knee bilateral. When I hear of the symptoms of a torn meniscus, I hear how the knee locks, swells and lots of pain. I have very little to no pain now, ( i did in the beginning) , it has never locked on me, but it has been swollen now for almost 2 years or more. Two years ago when i found out, I did physical therapy. It did help with the pain but not the swelling. With the 1st MRI 2 years ago, i was told I need surgery. Now 2 years later with another MRI, Dr. said the tear has gotten worst, but I still have no pain or locking. I don’t want to have surgery. I am still able to walk and exercise as much as I like and I am scared that the surgery could change that. The two procedures he say I need are a partial medial meniscectomy, hght and a chondroplasty patellofemoral joint, please, can you explain these 2 procedures. Thank you in advance for your help.
Hi cocogonenatural. Those are all very sensible questions and a practical approach. Typically the operation is to treat pain rather than swelling. We tell our patients they can continue with activities as tolerated even if they do have a tear diagnosed on MRI. The partical medial meniscectomy is where we remove the torn part of the meniscus through the camera (arthroscopy). The chondroplasty refers to smoothing some of the cartilage along the patella and the groove of the femur (trochlea). Pain is the best guide to whether or not you should proceed to the next step. Hope that helps. And thanks for watching.
I am 45 and twisted my knee getting out of the car about 2 weeks ago. It has been sore since with certain movements causing severe pain. I had microfracture surgery on the same knee 3 years ago which was very helpful and up until now has not caused me any problems
. I see my family doctor next week. I am hoping to not have surgery as being on crutches for 6 weeks was absolutely horrible.
Thanks for this informative video.
Hi Theresa75. Sorry to hear about your trouble. Yes rest, ice and medication can help. It may be related to a tear of the meniscus but often happens when two arthritic areas get in contact with certain positions. Hopefully it gets better! Thanks for watching and for subscribing if you did.
Very informative video. Currently have a torn in each knee. One is 15 years old, doesn't lock or hurt any longer fortunately. Used to lock and I would have to grab my toe and pull my leg back as if stretching my quad. The joint would open and the meniscus would get free from the joint allowing me to straighten it again. The other knee is new, doesn't lock but is much more painful than when I tore the first one. Really painful. Only thing about this video was when he mentioned prescribing pain med. Everyone's pain tolerance is different but pain meds are scary. That part of the video didn't age too well. Live with the pain and you won't have to worry about becoming an addict and ruining your life over a meniscus tear. I may be speaking from experience.
Awesome video. Masterfully done.
Thank you so much Rochielle. Very kind. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Great video Easy to understand and ....the 2 docs are adorable !
Hi Diane. Thanks for the positive feedback. We are certainly glad to help. And thanks for watching.
Fantastic guys , answered all my concerns.
Glad you liked it Susan. Thanks for watching and subscribing
This was very helpful and easy to follow...I appreciate you making this video docs.😊
We are glad that you found them helpful Lindsey. All the best. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Another informative video! Love your channel!!
So glad you like it Debbie. Thanks for watching and subscribing
This video was very informative!! Thank you for this!! You guys are wonderful!😍
Glad you liked it Alida. Thanks for watching and subscribing
My entire meniscus was removed when I was 12.... I have arthritis now 15 years later still in a severe amount of pain. I didn't need PT when I first had it done but recently had PT because of the pain. Getting a brace tomorrow as my work is just stairs and doing them about 14 times a day has been causing my knee to give out
Unloaded brace is a great idea. Injections may help. Keep the leg strong. Hang in there Sydney. Thanks for watching and subscribing
I fell down the stairs while carrying my 28-pound granddaughter. I somehow managed to protect her so she wouldn’t get hurt, but in exchange I badly injured my knee. It bent in the normal way, but somehow it did it so forcefully (like slamming a door) that it was instantly shot through with a searing hot pain, and I heard a snapping noise. These last 6 weeks I’ve tried to “baby” it myself with RICE (rest, ice, compression, elevation) and Advil, but to no avail. The pain is excruciating sometimes. I saw my family doc today and he did some manipulation tests, two of which were so painful it took my breath away and then I cried. He believes it’s a torn meniscus so he’s sending me for an x-ray and PT. I am desperate for relief. I’ve never known pain like this; I can’t walk without limping. Stairs are almost impossible and the worst thing of all - sorry to be so blunt - is standing up from or sitting down on the toilet. I truly have to psych myself up to go because I know it’s going to be sooo painful to sit and stand. Thank you for this informative video. You have given me hope for a brighter tomorrow!
I fractured my tibia along with the torn meniscus. I had the same snap sound and reactions. It sounds like a bone fracture too.
Hi 120wpm. Thanks for sharing your story. Hopefully with time the pain will subside. Yes xray is a good start and if your doctor feels that it is appropriate they may order an MRI. Good luck and thanks for watching.
So can you a menially torn meniscus heal by stopping the activity (surfing) that the injury occurred over a few weeks?
Excellent breakdown. Thanks very much🙏
It really depends on the location and age of the patient. The symptoms can improve without healing the tear sometimes
I know you are not talking about what I’m getting ready to ask but…… can you guys do a segment or a you tube session on gout. Ouch. I have arthritic gout & it is so painful at times. I don’t eat shelled fish 😢😢; my fav is lobster, crab, & shrimp… 😢😢; I don’t eat pork or beef… but recently I did eat some cabbage that had very tiny pieces of pork.. it was soooo good but the repercussion is so painful! Anyhew; I look forward to a session about gout!! 😊😊 Thank you & God bless you & yours…. I love what you guys are doing
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Thanks Sarah. Yes we can talk about gout for sure!
Thank you for explaining so well.
Glad you enjoyed it Lucia. You are very welcome. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
Bert and Ernie of the medical world 🌎 👌 really good viewing, great stuff guys
Hi Danno. Doing our best. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Wow, this was very informative!!! Thanks for explaining the procedure and the post op recovery.
Hi Lee Lee. So glad you liked it. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did
Many thanks for this video. I am 6 days post Meniscus tear surgery and doing very well. Between my Orthopedist's information and your excellent video, I was well prepared for the surgery and what to expect afterwards.
So glad to hear you are doing well and that we could help in any small way Linda! Best of luck during your recovery. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
Thank you both for taking the time to post this very informative video. I felt like you were talking directly to me- have a medial meniscus tear and onset of Arthritis (runs in the family). I'm 37 and really want to get back to being normal again in all activities (even walking is painful and I can't bend knee fully without pain). Have the sharp stabbing pain when knee is moved a certain way and have been suffering for 4 months now. Thank you for making me feel more educated on what I am dealing with.
Glad we could help CP! Good luck in getting back to your normal activity.
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I have had degenerative torn meniscus on my both knees. I believe it was a cumulative traumatic events on them from my sports and other activities. Arthroscopic procedures done to repair the " hanging hair". I wish I was told how much damaged meniscus (in % ) has been removed. Nevertheless my knees feel great, but the true can't be hide that low atmospheric pressure can aggravate knee pain usually around the medial area, I guess some arthritic activity is happening and I have to live with that. Best advice from my surgeon that I seriously took was to stop running and permanently and I too believe it is right for me not to induce pain anymore. Thank you for sharing your discussion and questions on the topic. Keep up a great work. Cheers
What is the treatment for horizontal posterior tear ...I can flex knees etc so would physio be better
Thank you for your great explanation. My MRI shows a complex flap tear in the lateral meniscus.
Hi Carl. You are very welcome. Best of luck with your tear. What are you planning on doing? Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing if you did.
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Docs, The pain that used to occur in the initial days after the injury, has reduced significantly. But i also back then, used to get popping sensations and sound from the knee while making my leg straight. It still occurs every time i make my leg straight from bend. But no pain.. So does it require special attention if it's not causing any pain or not interfering with daily life but keeps making cracking/popping sound everytime? Hope it doesn't increase chances of arthritis more than how it would otherwise be?!? (I am 24, was injured while playing a sport)
We worry less about the sounds and more about the pain. If it bothers you an MRI is not unreasonable. Maybe see your doctor and have a chat. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Agreed - don't call it a design flaw!!
Ha!
Thanks very useful information
Glad it was helpful Dina. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did
Really helpful video.
Glad it was helpful Akko. Thanks for watching, subscribing and sharing with someone if you did.
Dear talking with docs when should i get a joint knee replacement sugery
When you have advanced arthritis and can no longer treat the pain in other ways. Best of luck Rachel
Thank you, Dr. Paul Zalzal and Dr. Brad Weening for your informative and helpful videos!
I have a meniscus tear and osteoarthritis.
-From your video, is surgery my only option? I heard that if someone has a meniscus tear surgery and osteoarthritis, inevitably, that person will need to have a knee replacement.
-My knee locks out when I get into certain positions and it's painful to come out of these locked positions.-I am 66 years old.
-I received differing recommendations from 2 Orthopedists. Both recommend surgery. However, one doctor told me I could return to work immediately and resume my daily activities, including walking or riding a bike on a flat surface (just avoid pivoting movements). Another doctor said I could do no activity for about three weeks.
Thank you for any advice you can offer me (I sent my X-ray pics via e-mail).
Thank you--I've torn mine four times in the past four months. I start feeling better and increase activity and POP, back to square one. I know now what's happening to me.
Hi laywrite. Be careful! Glad we could help clear things up for you. Good luck and thanks for watching.
I don't think you can tear a meniscus several times, the meniscus is a very thin layer of cartilage and, at least in my case, I couldn't walk after my knee pop. You should find a Dr
Excellent infos from the Experts!!!
Thanks so much Edlyn! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
lol, well, I'm one of those old cars. Excellent video, covered all the bases. so helpful.
Glad you liked it Leah. Old cars are the best. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
excellent presentation and information. thank you two.
You are very welcome david.
What about partial or full knee replacement surgery? At what point does that become a viable alternative?
Hi Doctors,
I'm Thobile from SA. I just seen your video on your UA-cam channel of torn meniscus diagnosis.
December 2018 on the 14th I had a knee athroscopy surgery. My orthopedic surgeon put me on braces, I attended physio and finished all my sessions. After 8 weeks or so it seemed to get better, I was attending to my surgeon for check ups until he was pleased. Months after the surgery the pain is back and now on both knees extending to the feet.
I can't remember when last I managed to walk normally and sleep peacefully with no pains on both knees and feet.
This has affected badly on my life and work, I'm no longer the person I used to be physically as this restricts me.
I manage with soft flip flops, any other shoes especially closed or tekkies hurt me more.
I'm hoping to receive your positive feedback.
Thank you so much.
Regards,
Thobile.
Hi Thobile. So it is uncommon that you would retear your meniscus without significant trauma. If the pain is radiating down to both of your feet, it is unlikely related to your meniscus. There can be many causes. Best to be reassessed by your family physician and go from there. Thanks for watching.
@@TalkingWithDocs thanks Docs for responding, I'm from seeing my orthopedic surgeon today and last week Monday. Last week Monday he injected my left knee with steroids and the pain did not get any better . Today he explained that when he had the athroscopy my cartilage was damaged/teared. He now is also puzzled as to what could be the problem with both my knees. Both of them are painful and goes down to the feet. As MRI scans do not show anything, he is wanting to have another look on both of the knees next week Tuesday the 25th. I honestly do not want to go through another surgery... I am confused, hurt, in pains everyday and night, my life is affected, I am mostly chair and couch ridden. I hope you can assist, with perhaps suggesting another medical route or a Doctor specializing in a certain field. thank you very much.
64 year old female, avid hiker, cyclist here.I just was told. MRI, have torn meniscus from fall on sidewalk. Feeling depressed and anxious.
Well sorry to hear that Judy. It may improve. If it doesn’t you may require arthroscopy if there is minimal arthritis. Good luck. Thanks for watching and subscribing
You are exceptional!!!! Thank you, doctors! Thank you! I will spread the word about you.
Hi AliceQQQ. That is very sweet. You are very welcome and so glad we could help. Thanks for watching.
So glad I watched this. 2nd time tearing the same knee :( I'm Canadian but now living in the UK and my health care experience here thus far has made me a bit frustrated. Just had my mri and waiting on results and really hoping no need for surgery as being in a new country I have no doubt the doctors are good but still makes me nervous. So hope I don't need to go that route. But it's been 2 months now and still can not fully straighten my knee. But after seeing this video I feel more confident about what to expect. Thank you!
Hi Kelly. Thanks for the positive feedback. The MRI should give you much more information about what is going on. Inability to fully extend is an issue that should be addressed. It can be related to many factors. Take comfort in knowing that the UK training system for doctors is very similar to Canadian standards. Good luck!
How are u now? Its been a.month. did u get any results? Surgery?
@@amandalovehsoes I got my mri results 2 weeks ago but for some reason the doctor here now has to get a referral from someone else to tell me my next step?? Im tired of waiting so Ive taken into my own hands ...got a copy od my results and had my first session with an osteopath today. Along with my own stretching I am finally feeling more hopeful and doing everything I can to avoid surgery. Thank you for the inquiry :)
Good luck to you. Hopefully u will skip surgery and recover quickly by other methods!!🤗😘
CAN YOU TREAT MENISCAL TEAR WITH PLATELET RICH PLASMA? I HAVE IT DOWN IN JULY 2018 THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTOR SAYS BUT FEEL WITH PHYSICAL THERAPY I AM GOING FOR THE SECOND ONE IN SEPTEMBER. THANKS
How was your experience with PRP method?
My wife has knee Degenerative meniscus problem. One our doctors here recommended HYALURONIC ACID treatment and then after PRP. What you suggest? How was your experience? Does it work to help or heal or make yourself walkable?
I turn 59 this February and simply stepped downward about 6 inches and felt incredible pain! I did my best to ignore for two days at work. On Monday, the VA Hospital tried an xray then an MRI; a torn medial miniscus. A very degenerative/ arthritic knee.
Hi William. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully the symptoms subside or at least decrease. Good luck going forward and keep us posted. Thanks for watching.
That sounds like what happened to me last year, stepped down to go outside a clients home and the step below was a lot further down than I thought and I got that horrible pain as well. Previously had an MRI that showed a torn meniscus of the lateral horn, so I think that may have been the reason for the intense pain. I’m guessing any. Osteophytes could have been the reason, maybe. Anyway I had a TKR in that knee Feb 24th this year and healing up nicely. Anyone debating knee replacement who is in stage 3-4, I highly recommend.
Hi Doctors
I went upstairs and then something pop a second time in the last few years and it hurt pretty bad. It is my left knee on the outside side. What is it ?
It is hard to say. It could be your lateral meniscus or your IT band. Need to get assessed if it is giving you trouble. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Very informative.... I’m having surgery tomorrow, also have a cyst to decompress.... is it safe to assume that once you guys get in there and see what it really looks like... if the OA is that bad, you would be able to, with confidence, say it time for a partial/full joint replacement??
Dear talking with docs hi I want to know what causes pain on the inside of the side of the left knee I been in so much pain inside the side of the left knee ps thanks Rachel Grant
Likely medial meniscal tear. Your MRI help determine the cause
Great videos! I was diagnosed with a tear with an in office fiber optic scope. Do you feel that is better than MRI or is it better to get MRI if considering surgery?
So far treating with injections to hold off surgery (sometimes works, sometimes not). Any other non surgical options?
Hi Lynn. Not familiar with the scope diagnosis. MRI is currently the gold standard other than surgery. Meds, injections, physio, topicals and bracing are the non op choices. Best of luck to you. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Thank you for sharing this information. It’s very helpful to me.
Hi linjubar. So glad to hear that we could help. Thanks for watching.
Great info!!
You are very welcome Rhonda! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.
Hi Docs, thanks so much for your helpful information. I had arthroscopic surgery to debride a meniscus tear. I've been doing my PT exercises but still having sharp, stabbing pains when going up or down stairs or trying to slowly run a couple of steps. I also still have swelling in the knee, I have been diagnosed with arthritis although I don't feel any pain from this. My surgery was 4 months ago, do I have another tear possibly? I was told I have only 50% left of the meniscus. Thank you !
Hi Terri. Thanks for sharing your story. People can retear however this is rare. A lot of the symptoms will fluctuate in severity. If it is severe and persists, the best way to assess it is with another MRI unfortunately. Thanks for watching and good luck.
I have psoriatic arthritis in my knees & other joints (was on DMARDs for it). I ended up with a suspected meniscus tear 10wk ago just from over-stepping, as I didnt realise the floor sloped downward in a building I was leaving. Ive only just been referred for an MRI now, as I still can't fully straighten my leg and have pain when trying to walk/manoeuvre. I have been and still am really worried about the outcome - Im not even 40 yet, and have a toddler I can't keep up with. Your videos are helping me prepare for the MRI and follow-up appointments - I always have really high anxiety over anything medical.
Good luck and glad we could help Maz. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Fantastic explanation!
Glad we could help Fluffdc! Thanks for watching.
I wish I could have been under your care or been counselled by two " Most Excellent Dudes Doctors" such as you before having my knee scoped! Again! Regards!
Wow, thank you!
Wonderful explanation. I have a grade III meniscus tear in my rt knee. Seeing the video has helped me a lot to understand the type of problem I have and I feel well informed now to absorb what my dr. would say.
Hi Neeraj. So glad we could help you become informed. Good luck.
God bless you both such amazing well spoken men
Thank you so much for your kind words Sadia. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did.