It was good that you showed the fist failed attempt before finding the solution on the next attempt. It helps to show that you ruled out other areas of the stem causing the creaking issue. Like a lot of Australians, I love your vids!
My Achilleus just started creaking after the first ride, appreciate the video! I also added teflon tape around the stem then the silicone spray and its gone 100% now!
Good video getting to the inside of that hinge. You can sandpaper that bezel where it makes contact to the metal and that also offers a big improvement. We've been doing it to a lot of the new models we are seeing.
Howdy - Thanks for another good video. I tried just about everything to fix the creak on my DT Thunder II stem and even with Teflon film, copper film, lubricants of all sorts and extreme tightening, nothing stopped it completely. But it squeaks no more... I don't fold the stem so I purchased a custom clamp with 6 very strong bolts and after installing, it is rock solid and totally silent. Best of luck to all. Have fun and stay safe.
cool to see youre riding your storm :D if the creaking comes back, a solution that usually holds up for a longer time is to clean it out like you did, but wrap the part of the stem that you insert with teflon tape, then use black silicone spray on the tape and inside the stem hole. its a bit more permanent :D worked great on my Ultra 2. Another tip is to exchange those folding arms on the clamp for just regular bolts and use a tool to make it super solid with 0% stem wobble. its still easy enough to loosen if you need, but its heck of a lot tighter that way, and you dont have to hurt your hands tightening it.
Something you might try in the future for things is a product called friction paced. We use it in the bicycle world when we are attaching carbon fiber to carbon fiber it helps it grip and not spin or slip and not have to be over toward it is basically in assembly lube with something like pulverized glass in it basically feels like sandpaper cream it might work really well for things like that
Thanks to this channel I just got my first scooter - Kaabo Wolf Warrior X Pro(was even lucky to get the facelift version, with the upgraded rear springs and the new side lights. I was amazed by how it performs, how long the battery lasts with me(115 kilos, like every winter) and how fast it goes. With me I was able to reach 65 km/h on my very first ride and got scared.
Lol. That's a helluva awesome first scooter. I bought a nine bot 2 months ago put 300 miles on it and now upgraded to the varla eagle one. There is absolutely zero comparison. The ninebot is a prius and varla is Lamborghini. The torque will throw you if caught off guard. Have fun. Gear up n b safe
Great video. The current release Victor now has to the stem glued . So you cannot remove clean or lube. Even if you remove the screws. Not sure if it is the same for the storm.
Thanks for the video I’m glad you figured it out. 3 weeks ago I just bought MiniMotors new BlueTran Lightning scooter and the same stem and clamp is used from the Dualtron line. I had the squeaky stem 2 or 3 days out of the box. I watched all the Dualtron squeaky stem videos and it just seemed there was an easier way. So like you I sprayed corrosionX on top of the clamp area and my squeaky issue disappeared. Lastly my bad I should have went to Saturday nights ride. Those are so much fun.
Yup once you grease up all those spots you won’t get anymore noise. I did this once when I got my Thunder and never had to do it again. No noise no nothing. Love your videos btw.
Scooter collection looking good👌do you by chance know what would be wrong with a zero 11x/tw phaeton when all the speed settings are turned up but it only goes around 25mph but says it’s going 7mph? I’m thinking maybe a blown controller but I don’t have any codes so maybe it could be the throttle display or turbo button
I have the Ultra 2, literally 1 day old, and as I type this after a ride I now have 24 miles on it. I now have a "popping" in the bars similar to whats in this video, just not as severe (yet). My clamp is slightly different and had one QR instead of 2. I replaced the QR with a nut and bolt and got it tightened down more plus greased it. Popping noise got better but still present. When I get a chance later I plan to remove the stem from the upper hinge bracket and try the "clean and cover in grease trick". But if that doesn't work, I was told by Minimotors that I could completely clean and degrease the stem and inside the upper hinge bracket, cover it in red lock-tite, reinstall, tighten the two bolts, and let it sit overnight. He said this works great and is more permanent, but obviously would make it hard to remove the stem if ever needed. Has anyone here tried using lock-tite for this? If so, any feedback?
Hey. Thanks for the video..i own the varla eagle one and the stem is creaky but not like this .what I did is put a strip of electrical tape at the lower and upper part where it folds. I first cleaned w rubbing alcohol and ONLY WENT AROUND ONE TIME ...there is not enough room ...it's that tight. I haven't tries it yet but it's gotta be better. Any opinions ???? Also. ..what about putting straight bolts through and torque down? It will take more time to fold and you'll need to carry tools but those nuts w the embedded plastic washers x 2 would be super tight. Thanks again for the good vids
I just got a dualtron and found you need to put a hose clamp on top of the folding clamp to stop it coming loose because rocking the stem back and forth makes the clamp work its way up making a gap that results in stem wobble.
i really cant understand how Dualtron have not dealt with this problem, its not just individual scooters that get this problem, its ALLLLLL OF THEM, the money we spend on their scooters should be well spent NOT kinda or Sorta well spent, this problem should be fixed
Yeah, I always held Dualtron on a pedestal as 'the best'. No more. Their short wiggly creaky stems are a total buzzkill. Makes it hard to find enough redeeming qualities to justify the cost imo.
Because Dualtron it's not at fault, neither double QR clamp system. My Spider 2 stem was wobbling out of the box, the reason was both quick releases fit to close on one side which they aren't designed to work correctly. Try to put one of them on the other side, find a sweet spot (not too tight, not too lose).. magic - no wobble, no creaking anymore😊😅
That was the first thing i did when I got my Dualtron Ultra 2 i made Minimotors NYC cause that's where i got the scooter from they didn't even deliver it to my house i only live about 20min from them i went there picked it up and rode it home but the first thing i did before I left i made them grease the shit out of the stem the bottom part where u were talking about and the top part of the stem where the handlebars are thats was creaking too so he used some crazy black lithium grease then wrapped the stem in some thin plastic and put it back together so the metal shavings dont get on everything again cause thats why its creaking the metal hitting metal but yea that was the first thing i did before even leaving the store i don't know how u could deal with that noise i would go crazy lol
Theres a fast charger option for Dualtrons. I got mine from Minimotors for $150. I charge with both the stock charger and the fast charger goin at the same time. Takes about 5 hours or so to charge a dead Dualtron Ultra 2 .
I'll try to get a GOW workshop video done for that task ASAP. might not be uploaded for a couple weeks though as I'm about to leave on a trip for the next couple of weeks.
Good video I might get one next year. I'll be getting a starter scooter first. And see how do I like it. I'll thanking about getting chaos freeride scooter 2400w. I got to find a job first close to my house. Gas price is going up. Can you ride in the rain or wet out or damp with the dualtron storm? Let me know. How did you know what scooter you should get like the storm over the dualtron city? I like the storm lot better then the city. I know lot more money. I'll what it goes down in price maybe next year. Is it worth get the fast charger? Or get a stock charger have two of them going at the same time?
@@GingerOnWheels Yep 👍 It turns out my squeak was coming from the little baseplate that holds the steering damper on my Storm Limited. Tightening the screws seems to have helped for now.
That sucks. They need a solid non folding stem for high performance scooters ...at least make it an option. The only thing that should fold on a scooter is the kickstand really. I mean the most vulnerable part of a scooter should never cause question in the riders mind.
Will report back in a couple hundred miles. I put 50 on it last night and so far so good. 👍 I hope your Nami is up and running again soon so you can come ride with us!
@@slik I'm 260 lbs and with my backpack and gear, probably close to your weight. I just got the Dualtron Ultra 2 a day ago, and so far I've gone 52mph on it, plenty of power, great battery range. Took it on some rough off road terrain today on my lunch break and aside from getting the usual handlebar popping/creaking, it did great with me on it.
Hang on, aren't they designed to squeak like that to remind the rider that they are not on a scooter of Japanese quality? Would be so awesome if a company like Yamaha or Honda decided to produce an electric kick scooter.
Nope. Storm is the range king for now. Something about those super whiney loud motors gets really good range at cruising speed. Wolf uses 20-30% more watt hours per mile. I wish I knew why, but I don't.
@@GingerOnWheels electric scooter guide performance tests also show the storm getting more range when driven at max speeds although the king gt is significantly faster with way more peak power.
sorry, by faster i meant overal performance in regards to speed, both acceleration and top end, overall its significantly more capable than the storm. on esg the storm topped at 51 wheras the king gt topped at 61, and the range difference was 55 for the gt and 43 for the storm. i respect ur experience with the storm and i dont doubt wat u experienced but the esg results are more in line with i consistently hear regarding the storm and king gt. wats ridiculous is the price of that gt, its such a steal compared to anything else on the market.
HA. That shit don’t work. It’s a material issue. Get used to it. PS The 2 Firelight 2000 lumen lights are all I could hope for. Actually brighter than an ordinary car headlight, you need to angle the lights (a GO PRO mount is the SHIzt) in regards to this. Luv the heavy metal construction!
Listen man, you don’t even know what you are doing. What you did is just temporary ( like one day fix). It will come back again. Thats a big issue with dualtrons. They are lazy to fix this , its been there since 1gen dualtron thunder. The only proper way to fix it temporary ( abt 1 month) is covering the whole joint you pulled out with a teflon tape and greese. WD 40 and cleaning is 1 day fix. Give us an update after a day or two.
@@alexander3here One of the guys over at Monimotors SF said another more permanent option is to clean and degrease the stem and upper hinge where it insert's into, then cover in red lock-tite, reassemble, let sit overnight.....I'm hesitant to try this but would like to know if anyone has tried it and can provide some feedback?
It was good that you showed the fist failed attempt before finding the solution on the next attempt. It helps to show that you ruled out other areas of the stem causing the creaking issue. Like a lot of Australians, I love your vids!
My Achilleus just started creaking after the first ride, appreciate the video! I also added teflon tape around the stem then the silicone spray and its gone 100% now!
Good video getting to the inside of that hinge. You can sandpaper that bezel where it makes contact to the metal and that also offers a big improvement. We've been doing it to a lot of the new models we are seeing.
Hey, good idea! Thanks for the tip 👍
Howdy - Thanks for another good video. I tried just about everything to fix the creak on my DT Thunder II stem and even with Teflon film, copper film, lubricants of all sorts and extreme tightening, nothing stopped it completely. But it squeaks no more... I don't fold the stem so I purchased a custom clamp with 6 very strong bolts and after installing, it is rock solid and totally silent. Best of luck to all. Have fun and stay safe.
cool to see youre riding your storm :D if the creaking comes back, a solution that usually holds up for a longer time is to clean it out like you did, but wrap the part of the stem that you insert with teflon tape, then use black silicone spray on the tape and inside the stem hole. its a bit more permanent :D worked great on my Ultra 2. Another tip is to exchange those folding arms on the clamp for just regular bolts and use a tool to make it super solid with 0% stem wobble. its still easy enough to loosen if you need, but its heck of a lot tighter that way, and you dont have to hurt your hands tightening it.
Good tips! Thanks
Something you might try in the future for things is a product called friction paced. We use it in the bicycle world when we are attaching carbon fiber to carbon fiber it helps it grip and not spin or slip and not have to be over toward it is basically in assembly lube with something like pulverized glass in it basically feels like sandpaper cream it might work really well for things like that
I googled friction paced. Nothing came up.
O nevermind I found it. Friction Paste*. Yeah maybe I'll give that a shot if the noise comes back.
Thanks to this channel I just got my first scooter - Kaabo Wolf Warrior X Pro(was even lucky to get the facelift version, with the upgraded rear springs and the new side lights. I was amazed by how it performs, how long the battery lasts with me(115 kilos, like every winter) and how fast it goes. With me I was able to reach 65 km/h on my very first ride and got scared.
Lol. That's a helluva awesome first scooter. I bought a nine bot 2 months ago put 300 miles on it and now upgraded to the varla eagle one. There is absolutely zero comparison. The ninebot is a prius and varla is Lamborghini. The torque will throw you if caught off guard. Have fun. Gear up n b safe
Great video. The current release Victor now has to the stem glued . So you cannot remove clean or lube. Even if you remove the screws. Not sure if it is the same for the storm.
Excellent technical Mr. Wheels, thanks. Hoping to see video of the group ride in Seattle...
Thanks for the video I’m glad you figured it out. 3 weeks ago I just bought MiniMotors new BlueTran Lightning scooter and the same stem and clamp is used from the Dualtron line. I had the squeaky stem 2 or 3 days out of the box. I watched all the Dualtron squeaky stem videos and it just seemed there was an easier way. So like you I sprayed corrosionX on top of the clamp area and my squeaky issue disappeared. Lastly my bad I should have went to Saturday nights ride. Those are so much fun.
Yup once you grease up all those spots you won’t get anymore noise. I did this once when I got my Thunder and never had to do it again. No noise no nothing. Love your videos btw.
Scooter collection looking good👌do you by chance know what would be wrong with a zero 11x/tw phaeton when all the speed settings are turned up but it only goes around 25mph but says it’s going 7mph? I’m thinking maybe a blown controller but I don’t have any codes so maybe it could be the throttle display or turbo button
My experience with any Chinese mechanicals is they never use lubricants or grease sufficiently.. there's usually more grease on a fast food wrapper! 😁
The internets best electrically wheeled ginger!
I have the Ultra 2, literally 1 day old, and as I type this after a ride I now have 24 miles on it. I now have a "popping" in the bars similar to whats in this video, just not as severe (yet). My clamp is slightly different and had one QR instead of 2. I replaced the QR with a nut and bolt and got it tightened down more plus greased it. Popping noise got better but still present. When I get a chance later I plan to remove the stem from the upper hinge bracket and try the "clean and cover in grease trick". But if that doesn't work, I was told by Minimotors that I could completely clean and degrease the stem and inside the upper hinge bracket, cover it in red lock-tite, reinstall, tighten the two bolts, and let it sit overnight. He said this works great and is more permanent, but obviously would make it hard to remove the stem if ever needed. Has anyone here tried using lock-tite for this? If so, any feedback?
Hey. Thanks for the video..i own the varla eagle one and the stem is creaky but not like this .what I did is put a strip of electrical tape at the lower and upper part where it folds. I first cleaned w rubbing alcohol and ONLY WENT AROUND ONE TIME ...there is not enough room ...it's that tight. I haven't tries it yet but it's gotta be better. Any opinions ???? Also. ..what about putting straight bolts through and torque down? It will take more time to fold and you'll need to carry tools but those nuts w the embedded plastic washers x 2 would be super tight. Thanks again for the good vids
Use thread lock and a bit of Teflon tape! Works like a charm ! 2k and no problem about any noise
Hey good to know. I never thought about Teflon tape.
If the problem re-occurs in the future I would recommend using lithium grease
Sir,
Could you please let me know the type and size of the screws and nuts of the shaft. Ie: M6 60MM etc
Thanks so much
I just got a dualtron and found you need to put a hose clamp on top of the folding clamp to stop it coming loose because rocking the stem back and forth makes the clamp work its way up making a gap that results in stem wobble.
Yeh and that's seriously bad design. I'd rather not have a folding scooter than a stem I have to question while doing 35mph
Hey just wanna know what type of grease you used for it
Thanks for always making such great videos!
What about flex, does the stem flex?
More scooters should have a motorcycle style front end like the Wolf series
Hey Up Ginge. Is the Thunder 2 better than Storm 1 or 2 and why please. Thanks
i really cant understand how Dualtron have not dealt with this problem, its not just individual scooters that get this problem, its ALLLLLL OF THEM, the money we spend on their scooters should be well spent NOT kinda or Sorta well spent, this problem should be fixed
Yeah, I always held Dualtron on a pedestal as 'the best'. No more. Their short wiggly creaky stems are a total buzzkill. Makes it hard to find enough redeeming qualities to justify the cost imo.
Because Dualtron it's not at fault, neither double QR clamp system. My Spider 2 stem was wobbling out of the box, the reason was both quick releases fit to close on one side which they aren't designed to work correctly. Try to put one of them on the other side, find a sweet spot (not too tight, not too lose).. magic - no wobble, no creaking anymore😊😅
That was the first thing i did when I got my Dualtron Ultra 2 i made Minimotors NYC cause that's where i got the scooter from they didn't even deliver it to my house i only live about 20min from them i went there picked it up and rode it home but the first thing i did before I left i made them grease the shit out of the stem the bottom part where u were talking about and the top part of the stem where the handlebars are thats was creaking too so he used some crazy black lithium grease then wrapped the stem in some thin plastic and put it back together so the metal shavings dont get on everything again cause thats why its creaking the metal hitting metal but yea that was the first thing i did before even leaving the store i don't know how u could deal with that noise i would go crazy lol
Hi i cracked LED light covers on stem lights work fine still just the covers are cracked wanna change them any idea how to do that
Thank you for this video I am going home to do this too my thunder it doesn’t squeak that bad but i want it done lol
Think its the cable covers that making the squeak, simple fix a small amount of grease around the bottom of the cable wraps
No it's the poorly engineered sleeve for the clamp.
I love your videos men I’m about to order my scooter I have i question do you can buy a fast charger for the scooter.?
Theres a fast charger option for Dualtrons. I got mine from Minimotors for $150. I charge with both the stock charger and the fast charger goin at the same time. Takes about 5 hours or so to charge a dead Dualtron Ultra 2 .
Hello, I am writing to you from Turkey. I have a handlebar squeak on my device. How can I stop it?
Brotha how do you grease your gtr can’t find any info on good scooter maintenance thank you
I'll try to get a GOW workshop video done for that task ASAP. might not be uploaded for a couple weeks though as I'm about to leave on a trip for the next couple of weeks.
Thinking about purchasing a Thunder 2. I suppose I'll have to deal with this as well. Not sure why most Dualtrons do this. :(
My thunder did it too, developed in under 50 miles.
They have a new latching piece out, it's supposed to work.
This the dualtron storm or the 2nd new version?
Good video I might get one next year. I'll be getting a starter scooter first. And see how do I like it. I'll thanking about getting chaos freeride scooter 2400w. I got to find a job first close to my house. Gas price is going up. Can you ride in the rain or wet out or damp with the dualtron storm? Let me know. How did you know what scooter you should get like the storm over the dualtron city? I like the storm lot better then the city. I know lot more money. I'll what it goes down in price maybe next year. Is it worth get the fast charger? Or get a stock charger have two of them going at the same time?
Ginger how many e-scooters do you own?
What is the music track in the background?
I’ve got a dualtron mini and it’s 2 years old.
The stem has started to creak a lot and I can’t figure out where it’s coming from.
Any ideas?
Other than the couple of spots I pointed out in this video, no. Sorry, best of luck. Dualtron really needs to up their game.
how do you have the time on your deck
😅 that's the voltage readout for the battery.
ah okay gotcha lol @@GingerOnWheels
They have a new latching piece for the stem wobble.
link?
@@MDbandit10 Awh man, I wouldn't even have that info now, been like 2 or 3 years
How long was the ride you were going on?
About 45 miles
@@GingerOnWheels I'm guessing you didn't want to take any chances with the wolf at low voltage lol
@@JoseMartinez-mm8gj SNR is a high speed ride. Wolf would be dead before I got home.
Man that sounds fun I need to find something like that where I'm at, everything here is like 15-20mph
@@JoseMartinez-mm8gj its usually like that in summer time. But our winter rides are faaasst. 35-40mph. You should come visit 😀
I tried this same fix with lithium grease and I swear the creak came back even louder with a vengeance 😳 lol
Did you watch the whole video? That second area I put grease on did the trick for me.
@@GingerOnWheels Yep 👍 It turns out my squeak was coming from the little baseplate that holds the steering damper on my Storm Limited. Tightening the screws seems to have helped for now.
That sucks. They need a solid non folding stem for high performance scooters ...at least make it an option. The only thing that should fold on a scooter is the kickstand really. I mean the most vulnerable part of a scooter should never cause question in the riders mind.
Thin brass liner fixes that😊
That was a pretty simple fix. Let us know if it stays fixed.
Will report back in a couple hundred miles. I put 50 on it last night and so far so good. 👍
I hope your Nami is up and running again soon so you can come ride with us!
@@GingerOnWheels its coming back in a day or two, trust me lol
@@stoneklef true, mine got back in 2 weeks
@@GingerOnWheels hello does it make any stem creak or its still going well? And how many miles have u done?
@@soffianfar1d559 there are probably about 500 miles on the Storm since the fix in this video. No creaking yet so far.
plz help anyone I'm 300lb 6.2 and I want to buy an electric scooter what's my options and what you guys recommend me getting?
money isn't an issue
You anywhere near Seattle? There is a Phaeton with 300 miles on it for $2950. Comes with $500 Ohlins damper and 2x spare tubes and 2x spare tires.
@@GingerOnWheels I'm from Spain :P just wanted to know which brand and model is good for tall big guys
@@slik I'm 260 lbs and with my backpack and gear, probably close to your weight. I just got the Dualtron Ultra 2 a day ago, and so far I've gone 52mph on it, plenty of power, great battery range. Took it on some rough off road terrain today on my lunch break and aside from getting the usual handlebar popping/creaking, it did great with me on it.
Hang on, aren't they designed to squeak like that to remind the rider that they are not on a scooter of Japanese quality?
Would be so awesome if a company like Yamaha or Honda decided to produce an electric kick scooter.
Neither of the Wolves have the range needed?
Nope. Storm is the range king for now. Something about those super whiney loud motors gets really good range at cruising speed. Wolf uses 20-30% more watt hours per mile. I wish I knew why, but I don't.
@@GingerOnWheels electric scooter guide performance tests also show the storm getting more range when driven at max speeds although the king gt is significantly faster with way more peak power.
@@okdok3742 significantly? 4mph faster for me. GT pro does accelerate a bit faster though. What did ESG show?
sorry, by faster i meant overal performance in regards to speed, both acceleration and top end, overall its significantly more capable than the storm.
on esg the storm topped at 51 wheras the king gt topped at 61, and the range difference was 55 for the gt and 43 for the storm.
i respect ur experience with the storm and i dont doubt wat u experienced but the esg results are more in line with i consistently hear regarding the storm and king gt.
wats ridiculous is the price of that gt, its such a steal compared to anything else on the market.
Sadly, I said "That's what she said" at exactly the same time as you...
HA. That shit don’t work. It’s a material issue. Get used to it.
PS The 2 Firelight 2000 lumen lights are all I could hope for. Actually brighter than an ordinary car headlight, you need to angle the lights (a GO PRO mount is the SHIzt) in regards to this. Luv the heavy metal construction!
It’s always the 10mm hahaha
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Hi :)
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That smell reminds me of gun powder undoing bolts
Yeah! It sorta does.
Listen man, you don’t even know what you are doing. What you did is just temporary ( like one day fix). It will come back again. Thats a big issue with dualtrons. They are lazy to fix this , its been there since 1gen dualtron thunder. The only proper way to fix it temporary ( abt 1 month) is covering the whole joint you pulled out with a teflon tape and greese. WD 40 and cleaning is 1 day fix. Give us an update after a day or two.
my thunder 1 has been greased and flawless for a year already
Its more of a 3 month fix to be honest. Not really that big of a deal. Need to use lithium grease and fixes it for months.
@@alexander3here One of the guys over at Monimotors SF said another more permanent option is to clean and degrease the stem and upper hinge where it insert's into, then cover in red lock-tite, reassemble, let sit overnight.....I'm hesitant to try this but would like to know if anyone has tried it and can provide some feedback?
Why wouldn’t you show what actually worked instead of describing it? 🙄
Because I didn't get it on camera.
I Fix My Daughter Thunder Different Way
omg that sounds terrible!!!!