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can we be sure dude wasn't also some form of police captain or commissioner? in many towns and small citys the mayor acts as captain of the city guard. so im just curious if hes out of line or just a crappy boss
Is there ever any new content on your other channel? Cuz I've seen all that is there now a while back... and there hasn't been anything new? Am I missing something? 🤔
And may all police have a government willing to challenge their power. The system only works when both the lawmakers and law enforcement have a healthy fear/respect for one-another.
In most municipalities the Mayor is the highest authority over the Police force; an elected official, like the Sheriff. What you just saw was their boss showing up and telling them to clear the scene. They arrested him for it. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY!!
Regardless of the right or wrong, you're absolutely correct on that we need more mayors working for their people instead of blindly supporting the cops
Yeah, I was thinking do I like this guy? Yeah, I do. He may be government but he's not nice to the thugs.... Maybe he's an exception from the normal government employee....idk but good job getting those pigs Mr mayor
The only thing that concerns me is a disorderly conduct statute that allows police to be the complainant or injured party. Many states have recognized that such a statute is easily abused in “contempt of cop” situations and have eliminated/revised them.
@@rixmail93292 Still not a good idea to allow police to be an “injured party” for D.C. I would support an arrest for failure to comply with a lawful order though.
Bingo. Disorderly conduct never covers criticism of the police or state. Never. Protest is always 1st amendment protected activity. This case is total BS and "Audit the Audit" failed us again. Contempt of cop is never a crime. Never.
This channel is definitely biased but still very informative. To be fair it’s impossible for anyone to be completely unbiased though, it is what it is, i’m biased in my views and so are you but we can still all learn and listen to each opinion.
@@Eskay94 doesn't matter what happened in the past because the Mayor make an assumption and fallacies beforehand. He shouldn't assume the worst of everyone
@@Lamzilla24 Yes he gave both the Cops an A. For arresting someone who wasn’t a threat or obscene. Did he make there jobs slightly harder, sure, did he annoy people yes, but imo the arrest on the spot was a stretch regardless of how the local courts ruled. It’s very expensive to appeal and the mayor probably didn’t feel it was worth it but imo that Disorderly Conduct wouldn’t of held up by the own wording of similar case law. So yes it’s biased towards the Police and yes this channel is swayed that way but like I said I still respect everyone’s opinion and am not dissing this creator in anyway as he puts a lot of effort into it.
Some Minnesota specific information for you. When the cops said, "you can talk to our TZD Coordinator if you don't like what we're doing" at around 2:58, this is a Minnesota program called "Toward Zero Deaths". The cops are from 2 different towns performing stops on MN-371, which is not illegal for them to do although the Pequot Lakes officer was slightly outside his patrol zone, however TZD pay requires a minimum of 2 contacts per hour. In my opinion TZD is extra pay for a quota that often ends up as fishing expeditions to find drugs or other things unrelated to their initial stop. MN Revisor 169.985 prohibits quotas, but TZD has a mandatory number of stops per hour in order to get the pay, so I personally dislike these kinds of contradictions.
Quotas in policing are like asking for corruption. And where are the supposed positives for citizen safety? Im having hard time figuring out any. But thanks for the added info, OP, it makes the motives crystal clear here.
What's even worse, is the jail and prison system! My opinion, if you didn't commit a hangout crime (murder, rape, pedophile) the system should do everything to help them be better, but instead the system literally fucks you
I agree with what your saying, but in this specific incident the mayor should've kept his distance and talked to them after the fact, or gone through proper channels to affect change, he's not going to do that through the officers. That wasn't the time or place.
Not exactly. Usually its the state polices jurisdiction to patrol the highway. I think that its what he was getting at and telling them something about go to patrol around.
He absolutely should’ve been arrested. Crossing a four-lane highway? With the dog? Yelling at police officers from a few feet away? Standing on the fog line? His dog gets loose on a highway… On a traffic stop?!?!?!? He’s creating a very dangerous situation. When factoring the totality of the circumstances. Each individual act in itself may be legal. But in totality, he created a dangerous situation for himself, others on the road, and everybody involved in the traffic stop. Wearing a ski mask is legal. Walking into a bank is legal. Handing the teller a note is legal. But in totality… Walking into a bank wearing a ski mask, and handing the teller a note… Creates probable cause. It’s always about the totality and not each individual act.
@@jonstone9741 no, it really doesn’t. Just walking into a bank with a ski mask on. That’s probable cause. Why do you think banks remained closed after the pandemic and businesses were opening back up ? Because people were still wearing mask long after everything was declared “safe” . So banks kept their doors locked.
The worst part is probably the travesty of justice and the waste of public funds for thus whole ordeal. But i'll grant you that i held my breath anytime the dog was between the mayor and the highway. He had no control over that dog, and given the location, it was terrifying.
I think it mentioned at the beginning of the video that the mayor crossed 4 lanes of traffic to get to where the officers were. Talk about butting into something that he had no knowledge about.
I also have to say @AuditTheAudit is one of if not the most unbiased channels when it comes to this kind of content and i appreciate the commitment and integrity to the truth the rule of law and accountability.
@@tadmccalister2234 don’t know about more likely because those field tests are not quick and if it’s really worth investigating then time and effort shouldn’t be an issue
An additional charge the wanted to add. Once cops make a shaky arrest they need to add as many charges as they can to assure something will stick. Since disorderly is a vague charge -- like loitering -- its always a good choice, and it worked.
If police suspect you of intoxication, and you know you're not intoxicated, ALWAYS specifically consent for a blood test, instead of a blow test, or other "tests".
Would you consider doing an update of the cases that were "ongoing" when you first covered them, but have then since resolved? You could do a handful of the interesting ones in a single video, I'd turn up for that
Notice that cop tried to immediately jam him up on a subjective dui test then after the mayor asserted he wanted a blood test, the officer switched up and admitted he didn't smell alcohol?
From my understanding the police are operating outside of their jurisdiction for the state police. If I were a mayor I’d be pretty entitled about this too. I’m paying you to police my town not the highway that’s the state police’s responsibility.
@@FatBoy42069city municipalities have jurisdiction over interstate highways, the exception being turnpikes. So what are you saying 😂 I treat traffic stop on interstate highway the same as state highway the same as residential street.
How can the Minnesota cops arrest somebody in Illinois? That's a "little bit" out of there jurisdiction. You might as well ask for the Mossad to do it. 😅😅😅😅
@@FrauditorsBane Well, they can perform a citizens arrest in another state I think, I can't see how Mossad would do anything! They generally either kidnap you for interrogation or assassinate you!
I’m betting the Mayor and the cops didn’t like each other long before this traffic stop. In this case I think I side with the mayor. It’s his legal right to film the police from public property.
@@krane15 The mayor, which was told to keep a safe distance if he wanted to keep recording and insult them? The mayor who instead kept insulting and walked back into the scene he was told to keep a safe distance from? He was never stopped for exercising his rights and should be punished. If he's walking back into the scene and insulting them it SHOULD be taken as fighting words for disorderly and interfering. All he had to do was stay a safe distance back if he wanted to keep being a dickhead legally. So yeah I'd feel better knowing my cops aren't giving the mayor a free pass
I love that you are willing to show good cops on your channel. A lot of other police interaction channels will only show bad cops and seemed to intentionally foster an us vs them mentality.
But was the stop over. I saw the officer give the ticket and let him go. Then it cuts to the guy on the hood. So what happened. If the stop was over it was over.
"Why do you want to do a blood test"...and then miraculously they don't think he's drunk anymore. Cops are free to pick anything out in roadside tests to support charging you, drunk or not. Go for the blood/breath test every time.
Cops that are looking to trump up charges (on a jerk who isn't breaking the law) should never get an "A" from Audit the Audit. This channel pisses me off sometimes.
SFST is an internationally recognized and scientifically supported test. Also if you’re actually impaired it’s in your best interest to refuse as it can provide reasonable doubt
@@dicksherman284 If you watch enough of these videos, you see people who pass the test are failed, and the people who fail the test are let go. The test requires competence to be valid and many are incompetent. More importantly, the test requires integrity to be valid. And we find that many cops lack integrity. They are incentivized to make arrests. Or they act on their emotions (like anger) instead of the test results. When field sobriety is passed (as physically able as the person can be), and the breathalyzer is zero, the cops switch to drug intoxication and haul you to jail anyway. Many people due to age, weight, or disability, are unable to complete field sobriety while they are sober. A valid test requires the basic capacity for balance and mobility, which many drivers don’t have.
I think the issue the mayor was addressing was that officers from his department are out on the highway writing tickets when they should be patrolling the town. We have the same problem in our small town.
They were working specialized patrol in the area called TMZ. It’s basically a traffic patrol paid by the state, not by the budget set by the city/county they work for. So while they may have been officers on duty from his city, they were being paid by the state to run traffic.
To any that may wonder, a lot small cities and towns in America the city or town council president is given the honorary title of mayor. They are not the chief executive of the city or town. They are not in charge of the police force. The council hires a city or town administrator who is actually in charge and answers to the council.
Correct! I believe nearly 6,000 municipalities function either a council/manager system of government. A mayor is the leader of the council, but it's the City Manager who really is more of a CEO, so to speak, of that cities government
It depend on where he's a strong mayor or not. They could have the final say, or no more than a vote like any other council member. Obviously this mayor was the latter. Also the mayor typically appoints the chief of police.
Yep. In my town the City Manager has all that authority. The mayor is really just a town mascot of sorts. Doesn’t even have an office. He’s a nice guy and is sure to be at every little event in town he can attend, and he does attend the council meetings to share any issues he might observe, but he only even gets a vote if the council is somehow tied.
Where I live mayors are appointed, not elected. It is subject of significant debate, but when I sometimes see small town mayors in the US I'm kind of okay with it.
I saw something similar over 40 years ago in a smaller town. The Mayor of the town coasted through a stop sign and got pulled over and ticketed. He commented that if he did something wrong, he pays the price. I think this was a stunt to curb low level corruption forming. Some town council members were getting off on speeding and other things. The Mayor made a few enemies that day, but got the public behind him.
I didn’t see where anyone got behind him. The council censured him, the court found him guilty of disorderly, and the voters voted him out next election 100 votes for him and 1000 for his opponent.
This wasn't a case of the First Amendment not being "absolute". He wasn't restricted in any way from recording, only from standing in the middle of the traffic stop to do it. Also... Child: Can I have a cookie? Parent: Not before dinner. ...5 minutes later... Child: (eats cookie) Parent: (administers spanking) Child: YoU dIdN't WaRn Me!
Mayor was angry that the cops were tossing the contents of the car onto the road over the fact the occupants had a LEGAL amount of cannabis. I'm with hizzonor on this one.
@@oivi3iv635 then its his job to put forth that proposition to the city officials/township council and have them stopped at the legal level until it is done so and no judge has ordered what they are doing is illegal, mayor cant do shit.
I live in MN and know where this happened. I don't live where this happened but I'm guessing the mayor is pissed that town cops were on a state highway pulling people over and not in the town where they work. Not sure the laws and rules, but mostlikley they do have jurisdiction to patrol the hiway as well. Where the mayor probably thinks it's the State patrols job......
I live in Pequot lakes and that's correct, state 371 north and south are patrolled both by Pequot lakes police and nisswa PD as well as the highway patrol does
Why is okay to be close to officers sometimes but not others? There have been videos when you commend people for not backing down when an officer says video at a safe distance, saying safe is subjective. Why is it not subjective in this case?
At the end of the video the cop admits the stop was over when they arrested him for interfering with the stop. In other instances you would have called this out, it seems because the mayor is the more powerful person in the video you don't want to do this
Or maybe there's a chance he missed over it.. I don't think he cares about the Mayor and his power that's an odd thing,why would Audit the Audit would care about the mayor's power
Not necessarily, they cold have arrested him during it but warned him. They can go back on that warning for the behavior he showed, and still arrest him as the scene was still active.
I’ve spent a lot of time in the Pequot Lakes area. My longtime friend was a realtor in the area and had a house on one of the lakes. She passed away 2 years ago. Her daughter still works at the APine restaurant there
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The mayor was a belligerent, unprofessional ***hole. BUT, in the narrow context of the video, it looks like the officers DID arrest him because their feelings were (understandably)hurt, one of them lost his temper, and went "hands on." Then they tried to justify it with the "obstruction," "disorderly conduct," DUI insinuations with the ol' "if-you-haven't-been- drinking, why-would-you- refuse-a-sobriety-test routine." Maybe I missed something, but the "safety" issue they kept mentioning was about the _mayor's_ safety, not "officer safety"! So it seems a stretch to equivocate that into an officer safety / interference issue. From what's shown in the video, it also appeared the officers had no issues completing their interaction with the original detainees, so again, it didn't look like interference, bringing it back to whether the mayor's unhinged diatribe equals DC. Shockingly unprofessional and (based solely on the context of the video) unwarranted, absolutely. But unlawful?? Hmmmmm.
Holy crap! This is my home town. Two miles from my house. That lake in the background is the lake I live on. I’ve never had a bad encounter with the Nisswa police. Always been real chill.
Can you imagine getting pulled over, The mayor rocks up and is just the worst person ever instantly taking any heat off you. Their friends will never hear the end of this LMAO
Boy it sure looked like the other officer was handing back documents like the stop had concluded right before if not the same time they said he was interfering. 🤔
Im stuck on the mayor saying that his officers are not licensed to be out on the state highway pulling people over. LEOs *CANNOT* be the complaintants in a DC, period. Why did the body cams not record the mayor "yelling at the driver" that was pulled over?
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then again, judging the mayor as if he was in the line of work, calling him unprofessional while walking the dog... you are judging and reviewing a citizen, not a mayor on his capacity.
@@drantilHim saying "Im the mayor" very much clarified this is his normal attitude to his position and was likely as much of an idiot in the office as out of it
I like that Mayor, even though he was drunk and ignored the police orders to stand back. That was awesome, the Mayor took the walk and had to squat and cough. Hell yeah Mayor!
Anyone department not wearing body cams at this point is because they want to be able commit crimes. It would have been an uphill battle to convict a mayor without their cameras.
@@nod2009 in most cities the elected mayoral / city hall activities are heavily documented or open to the public, most citizens just don’t care to watch or show up
@@nod2009Almost all of their actions is recorded as either public record emails, letters, speeches, etc. they also don’t have free reign to kill or beat whoever they want and claim they were in fear for their life, that’s just cops.
@@meerkatmanorjr.2085 well... maybe it's just in Brazil... But here, many meetings are not documented. Or what goes on the paper is not exactly what has been said. That's why there is corruption....
The officers deserves a way lower grade. Did I hear the Mayor right? Did he not say the officers weren't in their correct area to patrol and pull people over? The Mayor knew how corrupt these police officers can be. It is sad the Mayor was standing up for the citizens but they wanted him gone (no longer a Mayor). He was also concerned about people who comes to visit and tour around the town. If those citizens saw police doing unlawful activities it would surly scare away tourist that comes to their town/city and buy items in their businesses. This is the second video I saw of Audit the Audit where he gave the officers a good grade and the citizen a bad grade. Did he switch sides? Just wondering...
As always I appreciate you being the most even handed channel covering police activities instead of either being 100% pro or anti law enforcement like the other channels out there.
I have to disagree with you about the even handedness of the commentary on this particular video. The law and words uttered are very specific. The devil, after all, is in the details. My disappointment with the narrator is that he didn't seem to catch what the officers initially said to the mayor: '... it's not safe for YOU.' I am assuming that this statement and no initial claims for officer safetly, was one of the reasons the prosecution didn't pursue an obstruction charge.
@@DC-lf8fj I don't understand why telling the mayor, who was antagonizing a calm situation mere feet from fast moving traffic, that it was unsafe for him is meaningful to the bias of the narrator in any way. Are you upset that he didn't point out a detail that felt important to you?
In the US Supreme Court 1989 decision in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the court concluded that the police have "no duty to protect..." the public without the subject under arrest or detainment. Still the police want to give directives "for your safety". When you need protection the police are not obligated but when they give orders its invariably for "your safety".
It’s always refreshing to see peace officers doing the right thing. When there are continually so many examples to the contrary out there, I think we risk confirmation bias. Celebrating the best law enforcement shouldn’t be mutually exclusive to exposing & weeding out the seemingly ever-growing abscess that exists within law enforcement. Appreciate adding some positive reinforcement to the mix.
I didn't' see the cops "doing the right thing" I saw two cops arrest the mayor because they didn't like what he had to say. Then turn freedom of speech into a crime. They were threatened or hurt. This was purely vindictive. You can tell that by the fake intoxication charge the cop tried to add. Trumped up charges is classic corrupt cop behavior. That's what I saw. The mayor's behavior may have been annoying, but hardly criminal. If it was, then hundreds of people should also be behind bars.
I actually like that the Mayor is so aggressive in protecting his constituents from excessive policing, and willing to face arrest in defending citizens' rights. I'd give him an 'A.' We need more mayors who are this zealous in police oversight.
Well sure but there's a legal way to do that, and disobeying a direct, lawful order to stand away from the scene/investigation is not that. That's why he got arrested in the first place ... even though the obstruction charge was later dropped (sometimes this is due to legal maneuvering and it wasn't specified why the charge was dropped)
Although I watched the entire video and encounter, I really only needed to watch up until he allows his dog get unleashed next to a busy multi-lane road to know how this was going to end. Let’s also note that there was seeming little concern when it happened because of his ego, it’s actually pretty disgusting.
I TRULEY appreciate this unbiased quality content. I commend and thank all involved with the creation and content of Audit the Audit. We, as a society, need more channels like this one. Thank you all again. 🙏
I personally find it refreshing to see a mayor criticizing their town's police force! More should call them out on potentially unlawful orders and actions on its citizens!
I agree! How did the Mayor get an F for the same conduct that Auditors get an A+. And how do the cops get an A+ for what Auditors usually give an F-? I think ATA should go back to Auditing college because he got this one Bass Akwards!
@@Sakuodo You may ask. It's apparent you have no idea why traffic stop took place, if any laws were broken by the drivers/passengers, if the police violated any policies. You just find it refreshing to see a mayor make a horse's ass of himself and get in the face of two officers who, for all you know, a good cops who are doing their jobs.
That cop pulled that dog back off the road multiple times. This idiot wasn't even warching his dog, if it wasnt for the cop itd be dead most likely. Or worse, if the driver swerved.
so you didn't hear the officer lying and saying that the mayor was obstructing traffic, and fishing for other crimes... How about you focus on the fact that the officers was doing a search on a car for no apparent reason and it didn't look like they found anything so the mayor was right... Why in the world did everyone not stand for a mayor taking on the police????? because the police chief did what he said he was gonna do... If you want police showing up if you get robbed you would vote him out to... but that's control and a dictatorship way of think
The whole concept of 'fighting words' , in present day society, is absurd. The idea that mere words could provike violence and thus should be criminalized - instead of criminalizing any actual violence in reaponse to mere words is repugnant. Meet speech with speech...and actual violence with defensive violence.
sorry, seen WAY to many fights over words that have been said to think we do not need this term still. YOU might never get mad when someone says something to you that is designed to provoke you, but the vast majority of humans will indeed respond to those words...that is why they are still around and why it is still on the books. I am simply giving you the common human reaction, however, be the change you want to see, and maybe you can see that change start to take off and make a difference.
IKR the wording of so called fighting words 'physically obstructing' movement or causing 'physical pain' is silly. Still these guys did the right thing and fined this guy for assholeishness.
@@DaleHartley…so, by your logic a woman shouldn’t wear clothing that may be considered provocative by some, because some will be driven to molest that woman…and so the woman has the burden to prevent her attack?
@@charliepiland3285 that makes absolutely no sense as a comparison. 1) in my post the person doing the illegal thing is deliberately instigating a fight with words in yours no words are said, the women just wears what she wants. Deliberate, vs none deliberate. 2) Fighting, and the use of violence to achieve a person goal...is to me a mental instability...a mental health problem. 3) I tirelessly and vebosely campaign on here for better mental health coverage and for an end to violence use for personal problems 4) in YOUR example the woman is not deliberate, BUT even if she were deliberate, NO violence towards here would NOT be acceptable ( although just to note, a hard wired rape response has been suggested in evolutionary terms... I have not followed the discussion, and it has been a few years since I say that...but... I do not accept religion even though we are hard wired for a sense of awe and wonderment as well) 5) The person speaking fighting words is the aggressor... guess you did not get that. The woman is not. 6) If a woman dresses to be sexually appealing, they generally ARE sexually appealing. That is what the woman wants as a reaction, but to respond to that with anything more then words ( such as compliment, or asking her out, striking up a conversation or just standing there with your jaw on the floor) and especially violence towards here is wrong. 6) many things are in humans, some are social norms, some are hard wired, some are just habits....And I am not going to get into social engineering with you because it is far to big ( verbose even to me :) lol) and has a checkered history ( several bad groups have tried to use it and given it a bad reputation) BUT the use of violence is tolerated too much, and becoming too prevalent in society. point blank...You presented a false narrative that made false assumptions ( that people do not use fighting words anymore) I countered with not only personal observations, but real world info ( no one in a civilized country should be starting wars...but putin did). You countered that with a dis-similar example of non-deliberate nature Point get through?
@@charliepiland3285 there are words that will cause a physical response...such as calling someone a slur while you are face to face with them in an argument. There was no reasonable reason to utter the slur, other than to illicit a response. That is just one example of why we need the "fighting words" ruling.
Sometimes it feels good to see good police officers. We so often highlight the bad ones, that I really appreciate episodes like this. Those two handled the situation perfectly.
They was but hurt for doing an impractical stop in the first place ripping everything out of the first person car then arresting the mayor just to show there authoriti who would see the actual issues more than the mayor there was a very good reason he was upset but it doesn't show in this video
I CANT STAND WHEN THESE KARENS STRESS OUT THEIR DOGS LIKE THIS! If i somehow found myself in a conflict while walking my dog, the id tell the other person how lucky they are that my dogs getting upset & walk away before i let him get scared anxious or agitated for several minutes. Let alone however long he had to wait to get home if i got arrested or worse.
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can we be sure dude wasn't also some form of police captain or commissioner? in many towns and small citys the mayor acts as captain of the city guard. so im just curious if hes out of line or just a crappy boss
Typo in the video title. Should either be *_"Cops_* Arrest..." or "Cop *_Arrests..."_* not "Cop Arrest..."
@@aaronhobbs4592 Good he's passionate
Is there ever any new content on your other channel? Cuz I've seen all that is there now a while back... and there hasn't been anything new? Am I missing something? 🤔
May all elected officials have cops willing to arrest them in their presence at all times
And may all police have a government willing to challenge their power.
The system only works when both the lawmakers and law enforcement have a healthy fear/respect for one-another.
@@soylencerno shit
And may all elected officials be willing to not back up their officers when in the wrong.
In most municipalities the Mayor is the highest authority over the Police force; an elected official, like the Sheriff. What you just saw was their boss showing up and telling them to clear the scene. They arrested him for it. ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY!!
The cops are a bigger problem than a mayor. Particularly of a smaller city.
You love to see a mayor actively not giving a single shit about his police force or how people view them.
Regardless of the right or wrong, you're absolutely correct on that we need more mayors working for their people instead of blindly supporting the cops
@@someguycalledCh0wdahCrazy how fast they forget who elected them. Usually the same day.
I love to see that the police gave zero shits that he was the mayor of their town.
@@austinflake3938 If they give a zero shit to the mayor, the pigs will give minus shit for you.
Yeah, I was thinking do I like this guy? Yeah, I do. He may be government but he's not nice to the thugs.... Maybe he's an exception from the normal government employee....idk but good job getting those pigs Mr mayor
The only thing that concerns me is a disorderly conduct statute that allows police to be the complainant or injured party. Many states have recognized that such a statute is easily abused in “contempt of cop” situations and have eliminated/revised them.
100% he shouldn't have been able to be arrested for disorderly conduct in this situation.
Good on the towns revising these 👍
This time it was different and justified.
@@rixmail93292 Still not a good idea to allow police to be an “injured party” for D.C. I would support an arrest for failure to comply with a lawful order though.
Bingo. Disorderly conduct never covers criticism of the police or state. Never. Protest is always 1st amendment protected activity. This case is total BS and "Audit the Audit" failed us again. Contempt of cop is never a crime. Never.
The mayor sounds drunk.
100%
Prob off some prescription benzos😂
MATE WAS OFF THE PILLS OR SOME
100% was acting like he was on something
Cops sound like they are on Adderall and steroids like 99 percent of the police force so who cares 😂
This is why I like this channel... Both the positives and negatives in law enforcement are shown without biases.
Makes me wonder what one or both of those departments have done in the past for the mayor to act that way with them 🤔
This channel is definitely biased but still very informative. To be fair it’s impossible for anyone to be completely unbiased though, it is what it is, i’m biased in my views and so are you but we can still all learn and listen to each opinion.
@@cliff5381 can you clarify what are the biases in this particular video?
@@Eskay94 doesn't matter what happened in the past because the Mayor make an assumption and fallacies beforehand. He shouldn't assume the worst of everyone
@@Lamzilla24 Yes he gave both the Cops an A. For arresting someone who wasn’t a threat or obscene. Did he make there jobs slightly harder, sure, did he annoy people yes, but imo the arrest on the spot was a stretch regardless of how the local courts ruled. It’s very expensive to appeal and the mayor probably didn’t feel it was worth it but imo that Disorderly Conduct wouldn’t of held up by the own wording of similar case law. So yes it’s biased towards the Police and yes this channel is swayed that way but like I said I still respect everyone’s opinion and am not dissing this creator in anyway as he puts a lot of effort into it.
Some Minnesota specific information for you. When the cops said, "you can talk to our TZD Coordinator if you don't like what we're doing" at around 2:58, this is a Minnesota program called "Toward Zero Deaths". The cops are from 2 different towns performing stops on MN-371, which is not illegal for them to do although the Pequot Lakes officer was slightly outside his patrol zone, however TZD pay requires a minimum of 2 contacts per hour. In my opinion TZD is extra pay for a quota that often ends up as fishing expeditions to find drugs or other things unrelated to their initial stop. MN Revisor 169.985 prohibits quotas, but TZD has a mandatory number of stops per hour in order to get the pay, so I personally dislike these kinds of contradictions.
Sounds like an unconstitutional quota system, were a constitutional challenge raised.
Quotas in policing are like asking for corruption. And where are the supposed positives for citizen safety? Im having hard time figuring out any. But thanks for the added info, OP, it makes the motives crystal clear here.
Police having quotas is the dumbest shit ever!
What's even worse, is the jail and prison system! My opinion, if you didn't commit a hangout crime (murder, rape, pedophile) the system should do everything to help them be better, but instead the system literally fucks you
I agree with what your saying, but in this specific incident the mayor should've kept his distance and talked to them after the fact, or gone through proper channels to affect change, he's not going to do that through the officers. That wasn't the time or place.
I'm just happy the dog was okay. Was scared this would turn into another Sunshine situation. 😢
To hell wit sunshine 😂😂😂
@@kingejbgm6730😂😂😂 asshole. But goddamn, that comment made me burst out with laughter.
@@kingejbgm6730keyboard warrior
That was awful about sunshine,, she looked so cute with that cowboy hat
@@commentsforcomments3018 what makes you say that ? You mad about dog you don’t know? 🤔
“If you guys weren’t pulling people over I wouldn’t be out here” isn’t that part of a police officers job? 😂
Not exactly. Usually its the state polices jurisdiction to patrol the highway. I think that its what he was getting at and telling them something about go to patrol around.
2:55 not even three minutes into this video and watching the mayor’s attitude, I can already see where this is going… 🤣
I'm always happy when the cops get an A.
That's the goal of channels like this. Thank you for your tireless hours of work.
He absolutely should’ve been arrested. Crossing a four-lane highway? With the dog? Yelling at police officers from a few feet away? Standing on the fog line? His dog gets loose on a highway… On a traffic stop?!?!?!? He’s creating a very dangerous situation.
When factoring the totality of the circumstances. Each individual act in itself may be legal. But in totality, he created a dangerous situation for himself, others on the road, and everybody involved in the traffic stop.
Wearing a ski mask is legal. Walking into a bank is legal. Handing the teller a note is legal. But in totality… Walking into a bank wearing a ski mask, and handing the teller a note… Creates probable cause. It’s always about the totality and not each individual act.
Depends on what the note says. It might say "Hey gorgeous, wanna go skiing?"
@@jonstone9741 no, it really doesn’t. Just walking into a bank with a ski mask on. That’s probable cause.
Why do you think banks remained closed after the pandemic and businesses were opening back up ? Because people were still wearing mask long after everything was declared “safe”
. So banks kept their doors locked.
@@jonstone9741I shouldn't, but I have to give that a lol.
Worst part was the dog could have been hit by a car!
4 lane highway ..mayor just let’s dog go the officer was concerned but not the mayor.. good indicator of his character
Should be charged for animal endangerment too
The worst part is probably the travesty of justice and the waste of public funds for thus whole ordeal. But i'll grant you that i held my breath anytime the dog was between the mayor and the highway. He had no control over that dog, and given the location, it was terrifying.
Waaa waaaaa waaaaa y’all sound like cry babies 😊
That was my first think I thought of too.
Is possessing weed legal in Minnesota? And where did the mayor even come from? He’s walking his dog on the highway?? LOL
From what i know it is legal as of Aug 1 this year
He must have parked the car somewhere. I'm not done with the video but I'm wondering if the kids that were pulled over know and called the mayor
I think it mentioned at the beginning of the video that the mayor crossed 4 lanes of traffic to get to where the officers were. Talk about butting into something that he had no knowledge about.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@DetectiveStablerSVUyeah man. These randoms called the mayor and he ran right over with his dog. 🤡
I also have to say @AuditTheAudit is one of if not the most unbiased channels when it comes to this kind of content and i appreciate the commitment and integrity to the truth the rule of law and accountability.
I love how they were deterred from investigating intoxication by the suggestions of a blood test because it’s actually accurate
More likely it would have been more time and effort than they were willing to expend.
@@tadmccalister2234 don’t know about more likely because those field tests are not quick and if it’s really worth investigating then time and effort shouldn’t be an issue
An additional charge the wanted to add. Once cops make a shaky arrest they need to add as many charges as they can to assure something will stick. Since disorderly is a vague charge -- like loitering -- its always a good choice, and it worked.
@@krane15The cooked spaghetti tactic 👍
If police suspect you of intoxication, and you know you're not intoxicated, ALWAYS specifically consent for a blood test, instead of a blow test, or other "tests".
Would you consider doing an update of the cases that were "ongoing" when you first covered them, but have then since resolved? You could do a handful of the interesting ones in a single video, I'd turn up for that
Agreed
The mayor must have been watching auditing videos all morning 😂 he is a huge fan of long Island audits lol
Notice that cop tried to immediately jam him up on a subjective dui test then after the mayor asserted he wanted a blood test, the officer switched up and admitted he didn't smell alcohol?
RIGHT?!? i know!
Just listening to the mayor I thought he must be drunk. But, it turns out he is just a jerk all the time.
He simply asked him if he was drinking, there was no mention of a “test”.
@@jonnyroy2008well the police that stay at the side of the road wasting their time catching people for stupid reasons *are* bastards.
@@sunmeadfarmhe asked if he would take the sobriety test and he said no I will take the blood test
Whoever has the highest level of entitlement is generally in the wrong, whether it be a police officer, a citizen, a witness, or a mayor.
From my understanding the police are operating outside of their jurisdiction for the state police. If I were a mayor I’d be pretty entitled about this too. I’m paying you to police my town not the highway that’s the state police’s responsibility.
@@FatBoy42069city municipalities have jurisdiction over interstate highways, the exception being turnpikes. So what are you saying 😂 I treat traffic stop on interstate highway the same as state highway the same as residential street.
Maybe these cops can now go arrest the corrupt Dolton mayor!
How can the Minnesota cops arrest somebody in Illinois? That's a "little bit" out of there jurisdiction. You might as well ask for the Mossad to do it. 😅😅😅😅
@@FrauditorsBane Well, they can perform a citizens arrest in another state I think, I can't see how Mossad would do anything! They generally either kidnap you for interrogation or assassinate you!
I’m betting the Mayor and the cops didn’t like each other long before this traffic stop. In this case I think I side with the mayor. It’s his legal right to film the police from public property.
Thanks for the relevant analysis! Bravo 👏 to the cops for doing a great job during this interaction and protecting his right to record in a safe spot!
What great job? They arrested the mayor on a trumped up charge. Would that make you feel safer?
@@krane15 The mayor, which was told to keep a safe distance if he wanted to keep recording and insult them? The mayor who instead kept insulting and walked back into the scene he was told to keep a safe distance from? He was never stopped for exercising his rights and should be punished. If he's walking back into the scene and insulting them it SHOULD be taken as fighting words for disorderly and interfering. All he had to do was stay a safe distance back if he wanted to keep being a dickhead legally.
So yeah I'd feel better knowing my cops aren't giving the mayor a free pass
@@apensalesman The mayor was filming from a safe distance when the cop approached and started antagonizing him.
I love that you are willing to show good cops on your channel. A lot of other police interaction channels will only show bad cops and seemed to intentionally foster an us vs them mentality.
There's no such thing as a good cop. All cops perpetuate the same failed system and if there were good cops, we wouldn't have bad ones.
But was the stop over. I saw the officer give the ticket and let him go. Then it cuts to the guy on the hood. So what happened. If the stop was over it was over.
"Why do you want to do a blood test"...and then miraculously they don't think he's drunk anymore.
Cops are free to pick anything out in roadside tests to support charging you, drunk or not. Go for the blood/breath test every time.
Cops that are looking to trump up charges (on a jerk who isn't breaking the law) should never get an "A" from Audit the Audit. This channel pisses me off sometimes.
SFST is an internationally recognized and scientifically supported test. Also if you’re actually impaired it’s in your best interest to refuse as it can provide reasonable doubt
@@Kissypoohthis comment right here. The "A" was based on a whole lot of what ifs
@@Kissypooh The channel is massively biased. It is what it is. It's not proper journalism or objective content.
@@dicksherman284 If you watch enough of these videos, you see people who pass the test are failed, and the people who fail the test are let go. The test requires competence to be valid and many are incompetent. More importantly, the test requires integrity to be valid. And we find that many cops lack integrity. They are incentivized to make arrests. Or they act on their emotions (like anger) instead of the test results. When field sobriety is passed (as physically able as the person can be), and the breathalyzer is zero, the cops switch to drug intoxication and haul you to jail anyway. Many people due to age, weight, or disability, are unable to complete field sobriety while they are sober. A valid test requires the basic capacity for balance and mobility, which many drivers don’t have.
I think the issue the mayor was addressing was that officers from his department are out on the highway writing tickets when they should be patrolling the town. We have the same problem in our small town.
I think the cops were from a jurisdiction other than this mayor's town.
Don’t think these cops were under the mayor’s department
They were from a police group specifically tasked with doing such stops. TZD, I think.
@@markstevenson6635 1 cop was from the Mayors town, the other wasn't
They were working specialized patrol in the area called TMZ. It’s basically a traffic patrol paid by the state, not by the budget set by the city/county they work for. So while they may have been officers on duty from his city, they were being paid by the state to run traffic.
Doesn't the mayor have anything better to do than harassing cops?
It's so nice to see the cops getting in a on this channel, especially when dealing with a corrupt public official
To any that may wonder, a lot small cities and towns in America the city or town council president is given the honorary title of mayor. They are not the chief executive of the city or town. They are not in charge of the police force. The council hires a city or town administrator who is actually in charge and answers to the council.
Correct! I believe nearly 6,000 municipalities function either a council/manager system of government. A mayor is the leader of the council, but it's the City Manager who really is more of a CEO, so to speak, of that cities government
It depend on where he's a strong mayor or not. They could have the final say, or no more than a vote like any other council member. Obviously this mayor was the latter. Also the mayor typically appoints the chief of police.
Yep. In my town the City Manager has all that authority. The mayor is really just a town mascot of sorts. Doesn’t even have an office. He’s a nice guy and is sure to be at every little event in town he can attend, and he does attend the council meetings to share any issues he might observe, but he only even gets a vote if the council is somehow tied.
A mayor who knows police are just harassing and collecting rather than serving and protecting!!!...he can come be our mayor any time.
Yup😊
Wow, you are so woke...
@@morbidmanmusic lol no we just like good people and hate criminal cops. O and spamming this Chanel with 100 crap comment isn't helpful bud
when the cop responded `we`re making stops` was clear that they are fishing, 100% with the mayor in this one, cops should have better things to do
Where I live mayors are appointed, not elected. It is subject of significant debate, but when I sometimes see small town mayors in the US I'm kind of okay with it.
The dog displayed better sense than Mayor by escaping and leaving the scene (and not getting hit by a car)
I saw something similar over 40 years ago in a smaller town. The Mayor of the town coasted through a stop sign and got pulled over and ticketed. He commented that if he did something wrong, he pays the price. I think this was a stunt to curb low level corruption forming. Some town council members were getting off on speeding and other things. The Mayor made a few enemies that day, but got the public behind him.
I didn’t see where anyone got behind him. The council censured him, the court found him guilty of disorderly, and the voters voted him out next election 100 votes for him and 1000 for his opponent.
@@pauladouglass9456the comment you're replying to is referring to a different incident.
He was the one man that could walk straight to the Police Chief’s Office.
And the police chief would tell him he has NO AUTHORITY here.
So ‘boisterous’ behaviour that causes ‘resentment’ is enough?
What a ridiculous piece of law 😂
This wasn't a case of the First Amendment not being "absolute". He wasn't restricted in any way from recording, only from standing in the middle of the traffic stop to do it.
Also...
Child: Can I have a cookie?
Parent: Not before dinner.
...5 minutes later...
Child: (eats cookie)
Parent: (administers spanking)
Child: YoU dIdN't WaRn Me!
That traffic stop was over with, that was 100% an unlawful arrest
So they gave yhe driver his ticket and license which means the stop is over. How do you impede them when its no longer ongoing?
Mayor was angry that the cops were tossing the contents of the car onto the road over the fact the occupants had a LEGAL amount of cannabis. I'm with hizzonor on this one.
Why was the mayor so up and adamant anyway? The entire encounter seems very strange and random.
He doesn't want local police harassing drivers.
@@bobthetitanicthey can easily argue this as drug trafficking unfortunately if it's over a certain quantity
Local pd on highway is the issue I believe
@@oivi3iv635 then its his job to put forth that proposition to the city officials/township council and have them stopped at the legal level until it is done so and no judge has ordered what they are doing is illegal, mayor cant do shit.
Because he doesn't like bad policing, and it's obvious he has bad cops harassing citizens in his town.
I live in MN and know where this happened. I don't live where this happened but I'm guessing the mayor is pissed that town cops were on a state highway pulling people over and not in the town where they work. Not sure the laws and rules, but mostlikley they do have jurisdiction to patrol the hiway as well. Where the mayor probably thinks it's the State patrols job......
I live in Pequot lakes and that's correct, state 371 north and south are patrolled both by Pequot lakes police and nisswa PD as well as the highway patrol does
@cainclemmer8050 yeah, they are all fighting for money!!
Why is okay to be close to officers sometimes but not others? There have been videos when you commend people for not backing down when an officer says video at a safe distance, saying safe is subjective. Why is it not subjective in this case?
This mayor should not be a mayor. He impedes a traffic stop? Walks across a four lane highway with his dog? This mayor is insane.
Well done mayor!!!!
Can’t wait to see the next moves. Update’s definitely needed on this one
Yessir we need popcorn 🍿 for the updates to this because it’s going to be an action packed sequel 😂
"I know what the F I'm doing"
LITERALLY INSTANTLY his dog is loose... What an absolute clown
At the end of the video the cop admits the stop was over when they arrested him for interfering with the stop. In other instances you would have called this out, it seems because the mayor is the more powerful person in the video you don't want to do this
Or maybe there's a chance he missed over it.. I don't think he cares about the Mayor and his power that's an odd thing,why would Audit the Audit would care about the mayor's power
Audit the Audit is afraid of repercussions from a shit-canned mayor, you heard it here first.
@Lanny-io9bi sure he did, that why he gave the cunts an A, and said "it's good they didn't cow under the mayor's authority."
Ok Brian🥴
Not necessarily, they cold have arrested him during it but warned him. They can go back on that warning for the behavior he showed, and still arrest him as the scene was still active.
In the old days it took 1cop to write a minor ticket now they got 5-6 cops and they r all scared grow some punks
I’ve spent a lot of time in the Pequot Lakes area. My longtime friend was a realtor in the area and had a house on one of the lakes. She passed away 2 years ago. Her daughter still works at the APine restaurant there
I'm special.
I'm important.
I'm "kind of a big deal".
I'm the Mayor!
So....many....jerks.
This is possibly the earliest I’ve ever been. Glad to be here!
Everyone's laughing and getting along, until the Mayor shows up 🤣
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The mayor was a belligerent, unprofessional ***hole. BUT, in the narrow context of the video, it looks like the officers DID arrest him because their feelings were (understandably)hurt, one of them lost his temper, and went "hands on." Then they tried to justify it with the "obstruction," "disorderly conduct," DUI insinuations with the ol' "if-you-haven't-been- drinking, why-would-you- refuse-a-sobriety-test routine."
Maybe I missed something, but the "safety" issue they kept mentioning was about the _mayor's_ safety, not "officer safety"! So it seems a stretch to equivocate that into an officer safety / interference issue. From what's shown in the video, it also appeared the officers had no issues completing their interaction with the original detainees, so again, it didn't look like interference, bringing it back to whether the mayor's unhinged diatribe equals DC. Shockingly unprofessional and (based solely on the context of the video) unwarranted, absolutely. But unlawful?? Hmmmmm.
Holy crap! This is my home town. Two miles from my house. That lake in the background is the lake I live on. I’ve never had a bad encounter with the Nisswa police. Always been real chill.
The voters who dunked Heidmann out of office get an A+
Mayor was needlessly antagonistic
Can you imagine getting pulled over, The mayor rocks up and is just the worst person ever instantly taking any heat off you. Their friends will never hear the end of this LMAO
Boy it sure looked like the other officer was handing back documents like the stop had concluded right before if not the same time they said he was interfering. 🤔
I’m happy to see the videos of great cops as much as the ones that show corrupt ones. Both need to be shown.
Im stuck on the mayor saying that his officers are not licensed to be out on the state highway pulling people over.
LEOs *CANNOT* be the complaintants in a DC, period.
Why did the body cams not record the mayor "yelling at the driver" that was pulled over?
I have a feeling these two officers would not have been so patient if that were anyone else, but I’m glade they were and let the mayor show who he is.
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The mayor did nothing wrong! Those cops are bitches!
Who is he? A guy who likes the 1st amendment and wants a blood test?
Imagine taking sides with these cops getting their quotas 😂😂
@@montezuma6962 mayor
weird choice for a mayor if you ask me, but let the voters vote I guess
then again, judging the mayor as if he was in the line of work, calling him unprofessional while walking the dog... you are judging and reviewing a citizen, not a mayor on his capacity.
@@drantilHim saying "Im the mayor" very much clarified this is his normal attitude to his position and was likely as much of an idiot in the office as out of it
Since when does votes have to do with elected politicians?😁
US is such a hellhole to a small town level? @@montezuma6962
The mayor is correct to hate the cops and tell them to get out of his town.
How strange lol. Why in the world is the mayor so combative with the cops? They should be working together to ensure the community is safe...
I like that Mayor, even though he was drunk and ignored the police orders to stand back. That was awesome, the Mayor took the walk and had to squat and cough. Hell yeah Mayor!
3:23
Mayor: "I know what the ---- I'm doing!"
As his dog gets loose right by the road lmao
Anyone department not wearing body cams at this point is because they want to be able commit crimes. It would have been an uphill battle to convict a mayor without their cameras.
Just thinking... Wouldn't be nice if mayors themselves used bodycams?
Imagine how many things would surface.....
@@nod2009 in most cities the elected mayoral / city hall activities are heavily documented or open to the public, most citizens just don’t care to watch or show up
@@nod2009Almost all of their actions is recorded as either public record emails, letters, speeches, etc. they also don’t have free reign to kill or beat whoever they want and claim they were in fear for their life, that’s just cops.
@@meerkatmanorjr.2085 well... maybe it's just in Brazil... But here, many meetings are not documented. Or what goes on the paper is not exactly what has been said.
That's why there is corruption....
@@nod2009 I understand, but even with things public here there is still corruption lol
So they couldn't tow the suspect's car so we'll tow an innocent bystanders car.
The officers deserves a way lower grade. Did I hear the Mayor right? Did he not say the officers weren't in their correct area to patrol and pull people over? The Mayor knew how corrupt these police officers can be. It is sad the Mayor was standing up for the citizens but they wanted him gone (no longer a Mayor). He was also concerned about people who comes to visit and tour around the town. If those citizens saw police doing unlawful activities it would surly scare away tourist that comes to their town/city and buy items in their businesses. This is the second video I saw of Audit the Audit where he gave the officers a good grade and the citizen a bad grade. Did he switch sides? Just wondering...
I never thought I'd see a video from you from my own county. Very informative on the situation
My friend was a long time realtor in the area. She passed away 2 years ago. I spent a lot of time at her house on Ossi
As always I appreciate you being the most even handed channel covering police activities instead of either being 100% pro or anti law enforcement like the other channels out there.
I have to disagree with you about the even handedness of the commentary on this particular video. The law and words uttered are very specific. The devil, after all, is in the details.
My disappointment with the narrator is that he didn't seem to catch what the officers initially said to the mayor: '... it's not safe for YOU.'
I am assuming that this statement and no initial claims for officer safetly, was one of the reasons the prosecution didn't pursue an obstruction charge.
@@DC-lf8fj I don't understand why telling the mayor, who was antagonizing a calm situation mere feet from fast moving traffic, that it was unsafe for him is meaningful to the bias of the narrator in any way. Are you upset that he didn't point out a detail that felt important to you?
11:10 the officer even admits the stop was over.
The mayor was more upset than the people getting their car searched damn
In the US Supreme Court 1989 decision in DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the court concluded that the police have "no duty to protect..." the public without the subject under arrest or detainment. Still the police want to give directives "for your safety".
When you need protection the police are not obligated but when they give orders its invariably for "your safety".
Now, I need a video on cops arresting mr krabs for selling SpongeBob’s soul
Yes absolutely
Did I miss the part where he talked about how the traffic stopped was over so how could it possibly be interfering
The old "You can't arrest me" politician.....
Omg! Gell froze over! Cops get an A and a politician got an F . Well I too would put politician s below a cop too
It’s always refreshing to see peace officers doing the right thing. When there are continually so many examples to the contrary out there, I think we risk confirmation bias.
Celebrating the best law enforcement shouldn’t be mutually exclusive to exposing & weeding out the seemingly ever-growing abscess that exists within law enforcement. Appreciate adding some positive reinforcement to the mix.
I didn't' see the cops "doing the right thing" I saw two cops arrest the mayor because they didn't like what he had to say. Then turn freedom of speech into a crime. They were threatened or hurt. This was purely vindictive. You can tell that by the fake intoxication charge the cop tried to add.
Trumped up charges is classic corrupt cop behavior. That's what I saw. The mayor's behavior may have been annoying, but hardly criminal. If it was, then hundreds of people should also be behind bars.
Clear cut obstruction. Far less his disorderly conduct And he even unleashes his dog to deepen his obstruction. Spot on on the analysis.
I thought the dog pulled out of his collar.
I actually like that the Mayor is so aggressive in protecting his constituents from excessive policing, and willing to face arrest in defending citizens' rights. I'd give him an 'A.' We need more mayors who are this zealous in police oversight.
Well sure but there's a legal way to do that, and disobeying a direct, lawful order to stand away from the scene/investigation is not that.
That's why he got arrested in the first place ... even though the obstruction charge was later dropped (sometimes this is due to legal maneuvering and it wasn't specified why the charge was dropped)
Although I watched the entire video and encounter, I really only needed to watch up until he allows his dog get unleashed next to a busy multi-lane road to know how this was going to end. Let’s also note that there was seeming little concern when it happened because of his ego, it’s actually pretty disgusting.
I loved when he called their asking bluff about alcohol like yeah no lets document that I am not under the influence.
Vote mayor heidemann! HeideManns mine, yours, ours - THE - Man!
(Heidemann sp*)
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Can you imagine if they convict him,. That means every cop on the force should be in jail then.
I personally find it refreshing to see a mayor criticizing their town's police force!
More should call them out on potentially unlawful orders and actions on its citizens!
I agree! How did the Mayor get an F for the same conduct that Auditors get an A+. And how do the cops get an A+ for what Auditors usually give an F-?
I think ATA should go back to Auditing college because he got this one Bass Akwards!
Sounds like you hate all police. What a refreshing and original stance.
@@Solo-RoadHow does it sound like that, may I ask?
@@Sakuodo You may ask. It's apparent you have no idea why traffic stop took place, if any laws were broken by the drivers/passengers, if the police violated any policies. You just find it refreshing to see a mayor make a horse's ass of himself and get in the face of two officers who, for all you know, a good cops who are doing their jobs.
That cop pulled that dog back off the road multiple times. This idiot wasn't even warching his dog, if it wasnt for the cop itd be dead most likely. Or worse, if the driver swerved.
so you didn't hear the officer lying and saying that the mayor was obstructing traffic, and fishing for other crimes... How about you focus on the fact that the officers was doing a search on a car for no apparent reason and it didn't look like they found anything so the mayor was right... Why in the world did everyone not stand for a mayor taking on the police????? because the police chief did what he said he was gonna do... If you want police showing up if you get robbed you would vote him out to... but that's control and a dictatorship way of think
It sure looked like the traffic stop was over when they arrested the Mayor.
The whole concept of 'fighting words' , in present day society, is absurd. The idea that mere words could provike violence and thus should be criminalized - instead of criminalizing any actual violence in reaponse to mere words is repugnant.
Meet speech with speech...and actual violence with defensive violence.
sorry, seen WAY to many fights over words that have been said to think we do not need this term still. YOU might never get mad when someone says something to you that is designed to provoke you, but the vast majority of humans will indeed respond to those words...that is why they are still around and why it is still on the books.
I am simply giving you the common human reaction, however, be the change you want to see, and maybe you can see that change start to take off and make a difference.
IKR the wording of so called fighting words 'physically obstructing' movement or causing 'physical pain' is silly. Still these guys did the right thing and fined this guy for assholeishness.
@@DaleHartley…so, by your logic a woman shouldn’t wear clothing that may be considered provocative by some, because some will be driven to molest that woman…and so the woman has the burden to prevent her attack?
@@charliepiland3285 that makes absolutely no sense as a comparison.
1) in my post the person doing the illegal thing is deliberately instigating a fight with words
in yours no words are said, the women just wears what she wants.
Deliberate, vs none deliberate.
2) Fighting, and the use of violence to achieve a person goal...is to me a mental instability...a mental health problem.
3) I tirelessly and vebosely campaign on here for better mental health coverage and for an end to violence use for personal problems
4) in YOUR example the woman is not deliberate, BUT even if she were deliberate, NO violence towards here would NOT be acceptable
( although just to note, a hard wired rape response has been suggested in evolutionary terms... I have not followed the discussion, and it has been a few years since I say that...but... I do not accept religion even though we are hard wired for a sense of awe and wonderment as well)
5) The person speaking fighting words is the aggressor... guess you did not get that. The woman is not.
6) If a woman dresses to be sexually appealing, they generally ARE sexually appealing. That is what the woman wants as a reaction, but to respond to that with anything more then words ( such as compliment, or asking her out, striking up a conversation or just standing there with your jaw on the floor) and especially violence towards here is wrong.
6) many things are in humans, some are social norms, some are hard wired, some are just habits....And I am not going to get into social engineering with you because it is far to big ( verbose even to me :) lol) and has a checkered history ( several bad groups have tried to use it and given it a bad reputation)
BUT the use of violence is tolerated too much, and becoming too prevalent in society.
point blank...You presented a false narrative that made false assumptions ( that people do not use fighting words anymore) I countered with not only personal observations, but real world info ( no one in a civilized country should be starting wars...but putin did).
You countered that with a dis-similar example of non-deliberate nature
Point get through?
@@charliepiland3285 there are words that will cause a physical response...such as calling someone a slur while you are face to face with them in an argument. There was no reasonable reason to utter the slur, other than to illicit a response. That is just one example of why we need the "fighting words" ruling.
Oh the irony of the mayor telling them they're being unsafe while walking his dog along the highway. What a maroon!
Yeah what a more on!
I kind of like the Mayor. He should sue the city for a million dollars.
The first time I've seen a person with power start berating police not in their own stop 😅 that mayor really wanted to be an auditor 😂
You can tell these two thugs were fabricating a scene when they said: "stop pulling, stop resisting" and ot was the officer pushing the guy.
This mayor is a legend!
In his own mind
Sometimes it feels good to see good police officers. We so often highlight the bad ones, that I really appreciate episodes like this. Those two handled the situation perfectly.
They was but hurt for doing an impractical stop in the first place ripping everything out of the first person car then arresting the mayor just to show there authoriti who would see the actual issues more than the mayor there was a very good reason he was upset but it doesn't show in this video
"Good" cops? Not in this video!😂😂😂
That guy walked up with his mind made up about what was going on and what those cops were doing.
I CANT STAND WHEN THESE KARENS STRESS OUT THEIR DOGS LIKE THIS!
If i somehow found myself in a conflict while walking my dog, the id tell the other person how lucky they are that my dogs getting upset & walk away before i let him get scared anxious or agitated for several minutes. Let alone however long he had to wait to get home if i got arrested or worse.