Yes, but if you consider everything you are getting. It is a good deal. Think about buying what it can do individually. Even if you found cheaper clones of the effects and amps, this would still run cheaper. Just my 2 cents. I am perler happy with my Boss ir200 and Blackstar CV10 and pedalboard.
@@KoaCharvel the problem is that it doesn't live in a vacuum. Modelers have always provided better value than all the pieces of gear that are modelled in it, but this product offers worse value than most if not all of its competitors.
@christianmichaud7897 I mostly agree with you. I do believe you are paying a premium just because it says Fender on it. But features and ease of use, it sits within its other competition.
Good to see Fender making improvements and supporting the device. I think it is an excellent sounding digital modeller and is just going to get better.
@@AmericanNationalist852Do you Fractal fan boys ever shut the hell up? We get it. Nothing is as good as Fractal. Fractal is superior in every way to every other modeler. You win. Now please stop commenting it on every video involving any other product. Thanks.
i'm not a fractal guy (i have a real pedalboard) and can confidently say that tonemaster pro is the worst all in 1 modeler. Helix, Fractal, Kemper are all better.@@NS-tc9kk
I listened very hard, but couldn't find what you mean. Ola keeps it generic. You want Vivian Campbell sound? Jcm800, boost it with super overdrive or use a graphic EQ pedal as a boost and crank up the mids. The latter is used for Rainbow in the dark.
I didn't know there was a new firmware update. I've not cared for the EVH amps on my TMP. Hopefully, this update with change that, it sure sounds like it will. Thanks Ola!
I think it sounds killer! Been a 5150 fan since the 90's. I actually had a Peavy Tribute 60. I read it had the EVH circuitry when Eddy was still a Plexi guy. He just tweeted it a bit for the 5150.
I was getting so hyped watching all of your videos on this little unit - its just so intuitive and it sounds great! ...then i saw how much it was and my heart sank. Its amazing! But $2300+AUD? That's ALOT.
@@seanbarnelli3335 Actually it is only 4399 AUd. A far cry from 4500. Stop simping for the weak. It only makes you look like someone who simps for the weak. Simp.
Australia is out of control with inflation - politicians dont GAF cos they pay themselves $1 milllion a year - so its not gonna get any better there. Get a good job or get out of there.
Thanks for the info. I am still using my Headrush unit and probably wouldn't consider switching to Fender until they offer more amps and goodies within. However, that sounded amazing the tones you created on the fly. Well done!!
One of the better demos I have heard with this thing. I'm wondering if others maybe didn't crank the volume enough because in a lot of demos it sounds lifeless and missing a ton of top end. It also seems to be missing a ton of front end gain. Your demo didn't seem too affected by those issues. Maybe the "magic" they did in the volume modeling causes too much darkening at lower volume knob settings. I had written this thing off. Why'd you have to go and make it sound good hahaha.
To be honest the Fender Tone Master sounds bad ass and very organic as well, I dare to say even better than the Helix in my opinion of course. Great review as usual bro.
Sounds good...Must say though, I still go back to your demo of the Tremoverb. That was, for me, the most brutal and heavy tone I've heard on this channel. If you haven't made a capture of that bad boy....please do. :)
Dude my Tremoverb is a beast... Also some kind of magic microphone combo and placement in that particular video. It's scooped but extremely nice... Glad you acknowledge that because it's my favorite too :D
@@OlaEnglund The face you made after that first chug mirrored mine exactly. Went on the hunt for one right after. Unfortunately, got a couple lemons and took them back. But I’m not dead yet. There’s still time. Plus, I’ve already cleared it with my neighbors. It’s a lot of amp! 🤘
Yeah man, the Tremoverb into a Friedman cab with a 421 and a 57 on opposite speakers with the phase popped 180 is the tone. JHS even did a video breaking down this tone and then MADE A PEDAL CALLED THE DRACYRYS. That is tone that is real. When JHS models your tone with an exclusive pedal you know the gangstas be poppin the blunts in oaktown for realz.
@@Dustinchugs Kemper does not have an algorythm capable of capturing it. Rick Beato did a video explaining the limitations of the Kemper with Mesa amps and cabs. Tonewars also did a video explaining that the new Nueral Software does an amazing job of capturing the Tremoverb and Ola's cab setup. It all comes down to mic placement and the pre gain distortion feeding into a saturated but not clipping power amp section.
I have a kemper. With some absolute killer sounds. But when i got the tone master i loved its simplicity And its tone is just there. I have a hand wired 65 twin i no longer have to lug around anymore. There are many haters, but this device is a beast.
I will wait for the BluGuitar AmpX, I was really hoping JB was going to have more input on something like he did with Peavey and the TubeFex and Transtube Fex stuff he developed.
Have we as a guitar community ever thought about how most of us are watching product tone demo vids on our cell phones with exceptionally shitty speakers? That being said pretty much everything Ola plays sounds badass.
Ola Englund There is a new firmware update. SLO 100, Super Overdrive & Orange and many more. I've tried the Super Drive --> Split A Chorus --> British 800 --> British G65 (Wet) and Split B British 800 --> British G65 (Dry). Tweak it a little and that is Zakk's tone without a doubt!
How is the Tonemaster pro (new-tech) compared to the Fractal AX8(old-tech)? Of course usability is vastly improved. But soundwise i am not sure how big the gap is.
They have gone on FOR E VER about how fancy and perfect their 5150 models were and even they they think they sucked up. This doesn’t sound much better than a BOSS GT-1, and those cost like 60 bucks used.
I was digging mine, but after having more time with the tone x, thats now my go too over my quad cortex now , and touring it , Tone x has been reliable, being on a long run of shows, where as sadly our victory Kraken v4 units died, incl the back up unit within the first 3 weeks
@@horvathpeter8130 Do you understand how acquisitions work? Any EVH exists under Fender's umbrella, meaning Fender has all of their trade knowledge...
a guy on Reddit took a picture of his Tone Master Pro with a crack going through the screen and entire unit. 2 months old and never left his house. These units will not hold up on the road. Fender needs to come out with a sub-$1000 unit that is smaller and more rugged.
@dv8322 I played with one at L&M and didn't think it was durable at all compared to my HX Stomp. I will wait for the smaller, cheaper unit with less switches and I/O, LED touch instead of OLED, etc.
I think at this point Kemper Profiler Player or Helix Stomp for smaller units. It’s hard to compete with the tones of those small ones. I would love to see both the Tone Master and Quad Cortex in a smaller format. Oh and fractal too!
Is there a connection between the Tonemaster and Tonex? Seems weird they simultaneously released updates with almost identical changes. 🤔 And apparently the interface is the exact same too? I had no idea.
@flips220 true. I did like my helix delays and reverb better than fractal come to think of it. I think fractal does modulation,comp, and overdrive pedals better imo. Plus snapshots functionality on helix are amazing
Hey, I hate to sound like a complete moron. I’ve had my tone master now for a little over a month. I do really like it, however, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to update it on a PC I don’t so I have to download five things lol I would like to update it. Help
All of these electronic simulators sound somewhat characterless. There's something in the mids which doesn't sound right. They're all nice, but... characterless. I believe the pedal amps are the future, for those which can't afford a real amp.
It’s better sounding than it was when Ola tried it the first time, but it’s still very sterile compared to the big players. The harmonics are not as bright and punchy. If you put this Fender head to head on similar settings with a QuadCortex or Tonex, it’s just not at that level. I still wouldn’t pay more than $400 for this Fender even with the updates (if I had the money lol). It’s sad. I don’t know who they hired to make these tones, but there are tons of kids fresh outta school who could make this sound world class. There’s like no excuse for subpar modeled/simulated tones in this day and age.
@@MashaT22Have you formed this opinion by actually playing the unit for just spouting fanboyisms you read from other people who haven't played it on the Internet?
@@gdawgs101 Pretty easy to form an opinion on how it sounds, being that there are plenty of videos with this and other units. Doesn't take owning one to have a like or dislike for it.....
I've always loved the Green sound effect cabinet for riffing!!!
That effect is what makes Metal sound disgustingly brutal!!!!!
For realz. The shitz nitz be pakin the cabs for ball bustinz tonez and the gangstaz be hittin the pipez straight hard core dawg!!
i didn't expect it to sound this gnarly
Now I have to go listen to five minutes alone, thanks Ola 🥳
That is actually really brutal sounding I like how that distortion has a even break up to it . I just wish it didn't cost so much.
Yes, but if you consider everything you are getting. It is a good deal. Think about buying what it can do individually. Even if you found cheaper clones of the effects and amps, this would still run cheaper. Just my 2 cents. I am perler happy with my Boss ir200 and Blackstar CV10 and pedalboard.
@@KoaCharvel the problem is that it doesn't live in a vacuum. Modelers have always provided better value than all the pieces of gear that are modelled in it, but this product offers worse value than most if not all of its competitors.
@christianmichaud7897 I mostly agree with you. I do believe you are paying a premium just because it says Fender on it. But features and ease of use, it sits within its other competition.
I'm eyeing to get one of these later in the year and I'm happy to see Fender is supporting the hardware as they have done with the Mustang Amps.
I'm glad you are covering this product. Great review 👍
Good to see Fender making improvements and supporting the device. I think it is an excellent sounding digital modeller and is just going to get better.
...It's almost the price of an FM9 and has like 15% of its capability 🤷🏻♂️....
@@AmericanNationalist852Do you Fractal fan boys ever shut the hell up? We get it. Nothing is as good as Fractal. Fractal is superior in every way to every other modeler. You win. Now please stop commenting it on every video involving any other product. Thanks.
i'm not a fractal guy (i have a real pedalboard) and can confidently say that tonemaster pro is the worst all in 1 modeler. Helix, Fractal, Kemper are all better.@@NS-tc9kk
@@AmericanNationalist852Not where I live the FM9 is about $1,000 more and with the features and ease of use the TMP competes quite favourably.
All these tones sound freaking amazing here
the first preset switch you clicked instantly sounded like Dio: Rainbow in the Dark
I listened very hard, but couldn't find what you mean. Ola keeps it generic.
You want Vivian Campbell sound?
Jcm800, boost it with super overdrive or use a graphic EQ pedal as a boost and crank up the mids.
The latter is used for Rainbow in the dark.
I swear!
I think the Marshall sounds very useable. Moreso than a lot of JCM models I've heard. I'm listening on a phone, mind you, so YMMV.
I didn't know there was a new firmware update. I've not cared for the EVH amps on my TMP. Hopefully, this update with change that, it sure sounds like it will. Thanks Ola!
I think it sounds killer! Been a 5150 fan since the 90's. I actually had a Peavy Tribute 60. I read it had the EVH circuitry when Eddy was still a Plexi guy. He just tweeted it a bit for the 5150.
This sounds really amazing. Seems finally you can play and feel with digital stuff
I dig that rhythm tone on the intro!
I was getting so hyped watching all of your videos on this little unit - its just so intuitive and it sounds great! ...then i saw how much it was and my heart sank. Its amazing! But $2300+AUD? That's ALOT.
Yet it's cheaper than Fractal FM3 Turbo, FM9 Turbo, Kemper stage/head, Helix, and Quad Cortex in Australia.
What is "alot" is your comment. IT is "alot" of nonsense.
AXE FXIII was $4500 Aud
@@seanbarnelli3335 Actually it is only 4399 AUd. A far cry from 4500. Stop simping for the weak. It only makes you look like someone who simps for the weak. Simp.
Australia is out of control with inflation - politicians dont GAF cos they pay themselves $1 milllion a year - so its not gonna get any better there. Get a good job or get out of there.
I bought the Tone Master Pro and love it. Never like modelers.
Thanks for the info. I am still using my Headrush unit and probably wouldn't consider switching to Fender until they offer more amps and goodies within. However, that sounded amazing the tones you created on the fly. Well done!!
That EVH through two marshalls is fabulous!
Sounds great! I would love to see a new Helix Floor video after all of the recent updates and improvements. You always seem to get such a great tone.
One of the better demos I have heard with this thing. I'm wondering if others maybe didn't crank the volume enough because in a lot of demos it sounds lifeless and missing a ton of top end. It also seems to be missing a ton of front end gain. Your demo didn't seem too affected by those issues. Maybe the "magic" they did in the volume modeling causes too much darkening at lower volume knob settings.
I had written this thing off. Why'd you have to go and make it sound good hahaha.
Love your gear reviews. Wish you would do more of them. I miss the frequent will it chugs.
To be honest the Fender Tone Master sounds bad ass and very organic as well, I dare to say even better than the Helix in my opinion of course.
Great review as usual bro.
Sounds good...Must say though, I still go back to your demo of the Tremoverb. That was, for me, the most brutal and heavy tone I've heard on this channel. If you haven't made a capture of that bad boy....please do. :)
Dude my Tremoverb is a beast... Also some kind of magic microphone combo and placement in that particular video. It's scooped but extremely nice... Glad you acknowledge that because it's my favorite too :D
@@OlaEnglund The face you made after that first chug mirrored mine exactly. Went on the hunt for one right after. Unfortunately, got a couple lemons and took them back. But I’m not dead yet. There’s still time. Plus, I’ve already cleared it with my neighbors. It’s a lot of amp! 🤘
@@OlaEnglundI’m with this guy, I’d love a Kemper capture of that amp!
Yeah man, the Tremoverb into a Friedman cab with a 421 and a 57 on opposite speakers with the phase popped 180 is the tone. JHS even did a video breaking down this tone and then MADE A PEDAL CALLED THE DRACYRYS. That is tone that is real. When JHS models your tone with an exclusive pedal you know the gangstas be poppin the blunts in oaktown for realz.
@@Dustinchugs Kemper does not have an algorythm capable of capturing it. Rick Beato did a video explaining the limitations of the Kemper with Mesa amps and cabs. Tonewars also did a video explaining that the new Nueral Software does an amazing job of capturing the Tremoverb and Ola's cab setup. It all comes down to mic placement and the pre gain distortion feeding into a saturated but not clipping power amp section.
Please keep covering this And making videos
Very Loomis-ish rhythm tone in that intro song I must say Ola!
Listen with headphones, great tones ! Ola
I have a kemper. With some absolute killer sounds. But when i got the tone master i loved its simplicity And its tone is just there. I have a hand wired 65 twin i no longer have to lug around anymore. There are many haters, but this device is a beast.
sounds sick to me!!! I'm an axe fx3 guy though, so won't be buying one of these any time soon, but they obviously did a ton of r & d on it..
I will wait for the BluGuitar AmpX, I was really hoping JB was going to have more input on something like he did with Peavey and the TubeFex and Transtube Fex stuff he developed.
Everything sounds great nowdayz.
Those evh models are probably the best sounding 5150 amp models.
Have we as a guitar community ever thought about how most of us are watching product tone demo vids on our cell phones with exceptionally shitty speakers? That being said pretty much everything Ola plays sounds badass.
B&W PI7 S2 or Sennheiser Momentum TWS 3 earbuds are the way to go!
Ola Englund There is a new firmware update. SLO 100, Super Overdrive & Orange and many more. I've tried the Super Drive --> Split A Chorus --> British 800 --> British G65 (Wet) and Split B British 800 --> British G65 (Dry). Tweak it a little and that is Zakk's tone without a doubt!
hey Ola, do you have a stash of backing tracks that you use floating around? or do you make a new one each video
This is something I wrote for Sunday With Ola
How is the Tonemaster pro (new-tech) compared to the Fractal AX8(old-tech)?
Of course usability is vastly improved. But soundwise i am not sure how big the gap is.
Did you try the new helix firmware? 3.7 slaps!
Cant wait to get mine
Hey Ola you should do a Bolt Thrower tone video! …For Victory or, Those Once Loyal in honour Martin Kearns, his birthday would have been March 7.
Second this bigtime!
Catchy tune dude.
It wasn't just Floods it was another tri item to the brother's. Fucking cool man.....
Sounds very good.
is this better sounding then the neural DSP? more choices with Neural but it looks like the response from this is faster?
They have gone on FOR E VER about how fancy and perfect their 5150 models were and even they they think they sucked up.
This doesn’t sound much better than a BOSS GT-1, and those cost like 60 bucks used.
I was digging mine, but after having more time with the tone x, thats now my go too over my quad cortex now , and touring it , Tone x has been reliable, being on a long run of shows, where as sadly our victory Kraken v4 units died, incl the back up unit within the first 3 weeks
You couldn't use IRs when you demoed it before launch. Can you use them now?
Yeah IR support has been around for awhile now
Fun intro riff cool
Where can I get a string plug like that for the headstock dude?
It is pretty sharp. I use rubber tube or foam under the strings.
Fender just learning metal right now.
fender owns evh... so they know their shit for a while
Yeah they learnt something from Van Halen.@@pitaorj
@@horvathpeter8130 Do you understand how acquisitions work? Any EVH exists under Fender's umbrella, meaning Fender has all of their trade knowledge...
Good day, Ola.
a guy on Reddit took a picture of his Tone Master Pro with a crack going through the screen and entire unit. 2 months old and never left his house. These units will not hold up on the road. Fender needs to come out with a sub-$1000 unit that is smaller and more rugged.
@dv8322 I played with one at L&M and didn't think it was durable at all compared to my HX Stomp. I will wait for the smaller, cheaper unit with less switches and I/O, LED touch instead of OLED, etc.
Did anyone seen SonicDriveStudios video about Tonemaster? The evh isnt even close to Evh.
What modeler would be the easiest to get great tones with less movement . Had the helix couple times. Any suggestions. Plugin and play.
I think at this point Kemper Profiler Player or Helix Stomp for smaller units. It’s hard to compete with the tones of those small ones. I would love to see both the Tone Master and Quad Cortex in a smaller format. Oh and fractal too!
What do you mean by less movement?
@@jessehutchings twisting turning knobs.
@@jconner3891 TMP then
Fender is the last name that comes to mind when i think of metal lol
I’ve had their rare Metalhead amp for 20 years. Not their first venture into metal territory
but the first name that come to mind when you think of neo-classical ummm well, metal.
Sounds good to me
Wicked!
So Fender Tone Master Pro or Quad Cortex? 🤔
Is there a connection between the Tonemaster and Tonex? Seems weird they simultaneously released updates with almost identical changes. 🤔
And apparently the interface is the exact same too? I had no idea.
The interface on both looks really similar to the headrush
204th! That's practically 3rd! 🪨
The EVH mode sounded good until you switched to Red mode. That doesn’t sound right or accurate. It got much much darker. That one needs more work.
Let’s goooooo
Can you run two amps in parallel?
Yes with 2 différent cab and mic!!🤘🤘
what is the latest version of firmware now?
I have always said that fender can't do metal... This time I think i might have to take that back lol not that bad tbh.
Isn’t the EVH brand stuff Fender. Doesn’t sell by the fender brand but think it still counts as a fender product and EVH Amps metal so good
Sh*ts N giggles Ola.
I'm one of the few undead!!
Great interface, so so tones.
the tones sound great here
Can you try to create a chainsaw sound with the tmp?
🤘🤘
How's your back bro?
Brutality
Can you please add your presets to the cloud?
why don't include them before releasing?
they were, but they've worked on them improving them!
It sounds ok
That stretch is not happening for me
So far, i think kemper has the best amp sounds, but fx go to fractal
I had to get an HX effects because I didn't like Fractal's effects. Not say you're wrong at all, just different preferences.
@flips220 true. I did like my helix delays and reverb better than fractal come to think of it. I think fractal does modulation,comp, and overdrive pedals better imo. Plus snapshots functionality on helix are amazing
Can you load your ir on this?
Yeah you can, I did in my first video
@@OlaEnglund I was curious cause I didn't hear your ir, I kinda use it as a reference.
its very austrian Samael - Exodus type of tone! very much so..
Still should only be like $1099, tops
$999, with matching expression pedal included. And a free gig bag. And a free t-shirt.
I dig it and it’s hella lighter than and 51503 and cab yeah that shits heavy
I like it. I don’t like the price.
🖖🤘
10
Fractal rocks! FM9 or FM3
Supraised that this product is still relevant
when you play a British amp you have to keep one pinky out
16th yay me
Quiet I mean
Sounds Gargantuan…
Tone master pro, why you so pricey
👀👀
Olá tudo bem 😂😂😂😂
Hello Sir
Hey, I hate to sound like a complete moron. I’ve had my tone master now for a little over a month. I do really like it, however, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to update it on a PC I don’t so I have to download five things lol I would like to update it. Help
I want
The main fault is the price
Give us Mrak
Seems scratchy
Agreed
Quite as Tick fart
Its 2024 and I still refuse to go digital. Analog from fingers to ears
All of these electronic simulators sound somewhat characterless. There's something in the mids which doesn't sound right. They're all nice, but... characterless. I believe the pedal amps are the future, for those which can't afford a real amp.
they all sound the same except for evh
It's still meh.
And costs waaaaaay too much
Quad Cortex for the win?
It’s better sounding than it was when Ola tried it the first time, but it’s still very sterile compared to the big players. The harmonics are not as bright and punchy. If you put this Fender head to head on similar settings with a QuadCortex or Tonex, it’s just not at that level. I still wouldn’t pay more than $400 for this Fender even with the updates (if I had the money lol). It’s sad. I don’t know who they hired to make these tones, but there are tons of kids fresh outta school who could make this sound world class. There’s like no excuse for subpar modeled/simulated tones in this day and age.
@@MashaT22Have you formed this opinion by actually playing the unit for just spouting fanboyisms you read from other people who haven't played it on the Internet?
@@gdawgs101
Pretty easy to form an opinion on how it sounds, being that there are plenty of videos with this and other units. Doesn't take owning one to have a like or dislike for it.....
🤘 first !