A crucible with a few holes drilled on one side towards the top works fantastic. Once your silver is molten you use tongs to tip the crucible just far enough for the silver to pour through the holes. Same effect as what you’re doing now, just capable of producing more shot per melt. Your method works great, just another option to keep in mind if you(or any other viewers) have a furnace and crucible they want to make shot with. Great videos, keep em coming!
I had missed this one, beautiful clean products but look how you have come one, if you'd done this in your 20's you'd be a major refiner in the country now.
Awesome sir I have been waiting for ur videos I just love love to watch ur videos sir pls upload some videos thank you for sharing ur knowledge great sir
I see from you're newer videos, that this experiment didn't work so well for your needs. Thank you for making all these videos, shows best practices, does and don'ts. Just about to jump in and start my very first batch in about two weeks. #ProfessorSreetips
I thought of that too. That the pressure of the gasses would blow the powder around. And your welcome for the offer and it will always stand. By the way did you tell your wife about my comment on the Christmas vid and how it made me cry. You see, you are a lucky man. Divorce can get evil to the point when you can’t even see your own grand kid.
That sounds terrible. I told her about your comment on the Christmas tree video. She and I both know how lucky we are to be together this long, and there's no relief in sight! But neither of us would have it any other way. Unless we both go at once, there'll come a day when one of us gets left behind holding the bag. I hate to even think about it.
Do you still use the same method today?? As far as melting and pouring precious metals this video is in the top 3 greatest!! VERY GOOD VIDEO SREETIPS!!!!
Have you ever had a melting dish break? Not just during shot production, but at any point while using them to cast or melt? I'm wondering how often they will break (I've read they do occasionally but haven't had it happen to me yet)
I have not. But I've been warned by an experienced refiner who did have one break on him while melting two troy ounces of gold. He said, "never ever use a cracked melt dish. I did once and it broke just as the metal melted. It spilled out and hit the concrete forming millions of tiny balls that went every where". But then he went on to say that he carefully swept the floor and recovered all but two tenths of a gram. Very lucky. So I always look at my melt dish before melting to verify there are no cracks in the fused silica melt dish.
I've been thoroughly enjoying your refining videos. Here is Canada it is almost impossible to get nitric acid unless you're a licensed and registered company so I've been having a really tough time finding alternate methods of refining my silver. I'm curious if you have any other options for silver refining that are reasonably faster and do not require the use of nitric acid. There are two methods I have that work to any degree: soak the silver in hot HCL with H2O2 for a LONG time, agitating with glass marbles to knock off any passivated silver chloride. This takes a VERY long time though. Or make a VERY weak nitric by dissolving a nitrate salt in HCL and bubbling through 35% H2O2 with a very fine air stone. I soak the silver in the H2O2 while I continually bubble the H2O2 and let the silver dissolve while the nitric acid forms. This works but it too is PAINFULLY slow and nitrate salts in concentrations high enough to be effective are also VERY hard to come by here in Canada. Interested in your thoughts.
I've used sulfuric acid to dissolve silver, but it doesn't do it very well. I put a few pieces of sterling silver in dilute 50/50 sulfuric acid. It's been sitting for several months now and I can tell that the pieces have shrunk, but it sure has taken a long time. To get the silver out I'll add HCl to it and precipitate the silver chloride. There has got to be a way to make nitric suitable for dissolving silver. I've never tried it because I can get the nitric easily. You should check with a friend who has a business that can order it for you and you pay a small fee to them for doing it.
sreetips Just order it online. You don't need a license to buy nitric acid. It's cheaper to make it though. Combine ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid and then distill it. There you go, nitric acid, easy.
Hey sreetips, just watching your shot making video. I think you need more height to allow the surface tension to form spheres. When lead shot was made they built a huge tower to allow the shot to form spheres. Just a thought. T
Tim, I agree. I may get a tall garbage container and place the metal pot at the bottom with the entire container full of water to form a tall column of water. The pot that I use is just not tall enough to allow the molten silver to freeze. That's why it gets welded together on the bottom like it did.
I read the article on Wikipedia. Thank you for that reference. Learned something new here. The molten metal forms a perfect sphere while falling through the air and into water at the bottom of the tower. It doesn't fall through the water. In my situation, perfect spheres are not needed. I just need the silver to freeze BEFORE they hit the bottom so they don't weld together like they did in my video.
Do you happen to remember what size bit you used to drill the small hole in the dish? I tried this for a first run with 2 ounces and it came out nice, but I also had a handful of “flakes” and not shot. I’m wondering if the hole I drilled is too large or if maybe I didn’t wait for the water to get cold enough. Thanks in advance for any advice, and thank you for all the great videos!!!
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Would this method work on shot made from silver plated items, or do you need to start with almost pure silver for the cell to work? Also is it economical to refine silver plated items or would you just stick with sterling? Thanks for all the great videos
If you just put a piece of metal underwater at an angle it will deflect the shot and prevent clumping, idealy you would want something an inch under the surface that is shaped like a funnel so you could deflect in a bunch of angels to prevent them forming together, easy.
@sreetips I've been curious about elecrolitic refining for a while. With all the electronic scrap, there's so little precious metals that you eat your profit away with the price of all the consumables (not to mention the cost if you buy your scrap). What do you think about running a copper cell, then running the slimes through the silver cell (after meeting with some silver that needs refined anyway), then all that's left is to refine the Platinum group metals and gold. It should, to some degree, reduce the amount of consumables needed right? Not knowledgeable in these things, just extremely curious about the subject and don't know how to message directly.
That's how it's done at the industrial lever. Silver is a by-product of refining copper. But I think that refining copper would consume more resources than it's worth.
How about testing to compress that cement silver using a hydraulic jack? Thus creating pucks of silver with a far greater surface area for use directly in that silver cell. With the right tool you might even incorporate that anode bar straight into the puck. If this works you will save a lot of time and money using less gas.
I know that gold powder can be cold pressed in a gold ingot in the way that you described. But I'm not sure about silver powder. If it can then that would be a great suggestion.
You can make a small sample by simply pressing a small ammount in a pair of wise grips. If it in some way compresses to a small flat disk'ish square it will most likely work.
@@sreetips thank you… I understand 2 methods that I e seen in your videos which are awesome btw… my question is… which method should I use to convert silver playing solution, use a silver cell like you have or use chloric acid ? And at the strength of 999 silver in the 500ml bottle,.. suggesting that the mole is about…9.25 roughly.. producing approximately 997 grams of silver… what’s your opinion. If have s click on this,.. the clock is my future in a very real way. I cannot fail or I’m in for a ride of my life.
Silver chloride conversion with lye and sugar, if done properly, will produce three nines pure silver and eliminate the need for using the silver cell to get high purity silver. I dissolve 600 grams of pure silver then add enough distilled water to achieve about 150g per liter concentration. I’m not familiar with moles, I’m not a chemist.
@@sreetips thank you…. Other than the silver plating solution which doesn’t seem economically feasible, can you suggest another way to produce silver in rapid fashion ?
Could you please do a video for a complete noob without experience? I really want ro grow some silver crystals but it does semm intimidating..xan you do a video thats for a beginner? Maybe a series... Would be great!! Much reapect!! Please consider this...thank you!
Please help me understand. I’ve watched a few videos of yours about these silver cells. But I’m still unclear.... What is the purpose to them? Don’t you get several 9s fine from the chemical refining?
Three nines is the goal. Cement silver is very close to three. Silver chloride conversion is very close to three. But the only way to be sure is in the silver cell.
It seems like it would cost more to go through all of this than the resulting silver... and would cost quite a bit to start up something like this. I did take your tip though and invested in $7,500 worth of silver bars. 400 Oz of it,
Would it make sense to make that melting process into a more continous process (slowly adding cement silver to the dish), or would that be unrealistic? It seems like a lot of work for one person to melt a relatively small amount of silver, stop, add ice, add cement, reheat the dish and cement etc. etc. I know it's a sort of first-world problem, but melting all that silver is a days work it seems, starting and stopping all the time. Great video again :D P.S. Why is it relevant to get the silver from 995 to 999 to 9999? It seems to take a lot of time, energy and effort for just under ½ percent more pure. Is there really that much value in that last .5 percent (or even .05 percent)?
Industry standard is three nines fine. Sometimes I make silver bars and sell them. When silver gets up over $50 per troy ounce, I'll start doing that again. If, by some chance, a customer decided to have one of my bars tested, then the test result had better come back as three nines or my credibility would be shot. Ruining credibility is something that a refiner, at any level, wants to avoid like the plague! The only way to guarantee that my silver is three nines fine, or better, is to run it through the electrolytic silver cell. In fact, I plan to run all my silver crystal back through the cell a second time, any silver I sell today has already been through twice. That silver should be up around five nines fine. What goes around - comes around.
Oh, I know - but if you advertize it as 995 (or whatever) would the price really be that much lower? Rather than spending what must me several man-hours on melting, drying, electrolyting, remelting etc. Not to talk about the gas, chemicals and electricity you spend. I love to see you do it, because it makes great videos. But I don't understand the financial side of it. Btw. silver is at a very low price ATM. About 16 $/oz. So it might take a while to hit 50. What do you do with all that silver? You have many kilos in this video. You just stack it for better times? Regarding your stock-pot, I think I recall you saying that you have a stock-pot for silver only. Have you refined that yet? Can we see it maybe? :D
Hi there, if someone was just starting out making crystals for the first time is there a tutorial on the best way to make the electrolyte, and where to get the impure silver shot from. many thanks
I have videos on making the cell from years ago. Also on how to make the electrolyte in a recent video. The impure silver shot comes from my gold refining videos. I use sterling/925 silver to alloy with karat gold, then pull the silver back out with hot dilute nitric acid. I “cement” the silver out of those solutions on clean copper, rinse and dry the 99% pure silver powder, then melt it and pour the molten metal into water to for silver shot/granules, then run that through the electrolytic silver cell to get high purity silver. The sterling/925 silver comes from local sales. My wife gets most of it for me.
Sir this is the second or third time I’ve watched this vid. Just wondering why you don’t use a rose bud torch instead of the cutting torch? Hope all is going well with you and your family.
My dear friend I hope I didn’t offend you. I just was thinking ( that ain’t always good. Just ask my wife.) working with steal, what takes several minutes with a cutting torch to heat up to a cherry red only takes seconds with a rose bud. If you have a Victor style small torch I’ll give you one of my extra rose buds. My email address is nickdun28y@outlook.com Email me and I’ll confirm then send it to you. Maybe you like it maybe you hate it.
No foul, I was just answering your question. I prefer the cutting head because a rosebud might blow the silver powder out of the dish. Thank you for the kind offer.
I've got a new way to do this, the best method that I've found so far. I copied it from a tv commercial about precious metals. The guy held a water-soaked wooden paddle under a stream of molten silver that dispersed the silver into small droplets that then fell into a tank of water. I made a video of it about a month ago. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/F_Md0Lc6F94/v-deo.html
I have silver powder rendered by cementing it out on copper. But I go to melt it, it does not melt. It just gets red hot at 2000 degrees. What am I doing wrong?
I've really been enjoying your videos over the past several days. Thanks for this info. It peeked my interest so before i start running my silver, i decided to run copper in a copper sulfate solution for experience. I was wondering if there is a reason you run the cell at 3v. From what i have read about current determines speed of purification. I built the same setup you show and i also have the same lab power supply rated at 5A. i've been running the cell for four days now at 3v x 1.4A and all it seems to be doing is plating the SS bowl. I'm not getting any shoots. Would the process still work if i run it up to 9v x 4.75A?
Also, i know there is a bit of zinc in the copper i am running. Is there a color change from saturated copper to saturated zinc? if the solution were to become saturated with zinc would the cell start dumping zinc into the cell and leave the copper in the basket?
I usually run my silver cell at 3.5 volts. The voltage should be kept there. It's the current flow that does the work. Current flow (amps) will vary depending on electrolyte conc. Im not familiar with zinc or copper sulfate or copper cell, no experience there.
If you look at part two of my silver refining complete process for the amateur refiner video, it shows exactly how to made the electrode bar for the anode basket.
Hey there Sreetips! Another totally awesome video. :-) I do have a question on this new method of making shot. How do you keep your crucible from cracking with the hole drilled through the crucible? Also noticed you didn't use borax as a flux? Is that something new you do as apposed to the old way you used to melt silver?
Eric, I've not noticed any cracks in the fused silica melt dish crucible. The crucible has already been treated with borax before I drilled the hole. A few pinches of borax wouldn't hurt to get the tiny balls of silver that cling to the sides of the dish to flow down into the main mass of molten silver.
sreetips have you tried making the hole in your melt dish smaller than 2mm? If you have what were your results? It seems like a very cool and efficient way to melt silver shot.. I've had a 50/50 luck ratio when I prime my melt dishes they're either cracked when I get them or crack due to heating borax to glaze the melt dish. I'm afraid to try drilling a hole because I think it would ruin the integrity of the melt dish. Any suggestions?
Eric, I've never had a melt dish crack while coating it with molten borax (please see my video on how to treat the melt dish crucible with borax). I have, in the past, added too much borax while treating a new melt dish and the borax will form tiny cracks after it solidifies. But this has never hurt the integrity of the actual fused silica melt dish. However, if you do see cracks in the melt dish itself then it's best just to throw it away. Melting metal in a cracked dish will cause the molten metal to spill out and form tiny beads that go in every direction onto the concrete floor. A real nightmare.
Ha ha ha ha ha you're welcome. Im doing some more gold pins. 200 lbs sulphuric cell. Smh. Hey i have the uwin. 700 formula. But i dont have it perfected. The drill the hole shout out is appreciated
Can concentrated brine dissolve silver chloride? I read somewhere that concentrated HCl can dissolve AgCl due to the formation of a soluble (AgCl2)- complex. It appears that the Cl- ions from HCl is responsible, so i thought maybe NaCl works too. Can you test it out?
The only compound that I know of that will dissolve silver chloride is ammonia. Brine (salt water), when mixed with an aqueous solution of silver nitrate, instantly forms silver chloride. So I doubt very seriously that concentrated brine will dissolve silver chloride - it will not. Same goes for hydrochloric acid (HCl).
sreetips I know that when Cl- ions are added to dissolved Ag+, insoluble AgCl will be precipitated first. But im thinking that an extraordinary abundance of Cl- ions could form a soluble dichlorosilver complex. This is similar to how ammonia would first precipitate Ag2O from a silver solution, but an excess of ammonia would redissolve the oxide to form a soluble diammine silver complex. Many research papers claim that conc HCl could dissolve AgCl via a complex formation.
Very few of the chemicals I use are lab-grade. I buy 10% ammonia at the grocery store, it is used as a household cleaning agent. I get my hydrochloric acid at the hardware store, it's used to clean concrete. 98% concentrated sulfuric acid is Rooto Drain Cleaner sold at the hardware store. None of these chemicals are even vaguely illegal to own where I live either.
I enjoy watching these videos but I do not like the way you use the torch. You should set it so you get a small baby blue flame, at the tip of this flame you will get the most heat and as you go away from the tip the heat drops off very fast. All the best, Edgar
Hey so how u keep it from eating the metal bowl cuz I m bout do that but trying figure it out so positive wire gose on were silver connected to top of were anoid basket is right
@@sreetips The powers that should not be are spraying silver iodide into the atmosphere. How can get that silver iodide from the atmosphere and refine it. How could I take the toxic barium from the atmosphere?
Been refining and casting for 25 years and I'm still learning! Thanks Sreetips for your detailed process.
A crucible with a few holes drilled on one side towards the top works fantastic. Once your silver is molten you use tongs to tip the crucible just far enough for the silver to pour through the holes. Same effect as what you’re doing now, just capable of producing more shot per melt. Your method works great, just another option to keep in mind if you(or any other viewers) have a furnace and crucible they want to make shot with. Great videos, keep em coming!
Times have changed a fraction but I do like this idea. It seems to help with safety issues giving a free hand. ? Cheers. Paddy down under.👍🇦🇺
That setup for quick shot making was genius
I had missed this one, beautiful clean products but look how you have come one, if you'd done this in your 20's you'd be a major refiner in the country now.
Love your work Sreetips! Keep up the awesome content! ❤
Awesome new method!
You seem very impressed with it, and so am I!
Thanx for the new vid, and the new way of thinking. :)
Awesome sir I have been waiting for ur videos I just love love to watch ur videos sir pls upload some videos thank you for sharing ur knowledge great sir
AWESOME, Sreetips awesome chemistry 💯%😊
I see from you're newer videos, that this experiment didn't work so well for your needs.
Thank you for making all these videos, shows best practices, does and don'ts. Just about to jump in and start my very first batch in about two weeks.
#ProfessorSreetips
Very cool video, I'm looking at getting into purification and recovery of precious metals myself, not sure what I'm doing at the moment though, lol.
Great returns my friend.
By the way love your shows they really are intriguing.....
Still playing catch up but I like finding new well new to me videos to watch.
Awesome video well done!
ONE MORE ..... NICE VIDEO ... ! thank you and KEEP GOING ....!
I thought of that too. That the pressure of the gasses would blow the powder around. And your welcome for the offer and it will always stand. By the way did you tell your wife about my comment on the Christmas vid and how it made me cry. You see, you are a lucky man. Divorce can get evil to the point when you can’t even see your own grand kid.
That sounds terrible. I told her about your comment on the Christmas tree video. She and I both know how lucky we are to be together this long, and there's no relief in sight! But neither of us would have it any other way. Unless we both go at once, there'll come a day when one of us gets left behind holding the bag. I hate to even think about it.
You always come up with the nice setup sreerips, cool!
Greate job 👏👏👏
I love your videos.... If you ever list a single ounce ill get it... I prefer the smaller pieces..... Thanks so much
I'll list an
Do you still use the same method today??
As far as melting and pouring precious metals this video is in the top 3 greatest!!
VERY GOOD VIDEO SREETIPS!!!!
Thanks lot well got mine same as urs I made silver anoide today
If you make the water deeper it will also stop the shot welding together and also make a better and more consistent shot
Place a stainless screen over the container and pour through it to make smaller shot. Saw it on another channel. Works well.
Thanks for your help . Where would I get the same melting dish that you used in your UA-cam video?
I bought from Miller’s Jewelry Supply in Chicago twelve years ago. I bought ten dozen. But I think you can get them from eBay.
Could you use this same process to eliminate the chemical separation of the silver and only refine it via electrolysis?
Greate Tip, but you need only a deeper Pot.. i use a 1m plexiglas tube with destill water best regards jürgen
Deeper pot would solve it. Thank you.
super cool video, Sr. Chief! if you were starting with a clean silver cell, how long would it take to convert 1Kg of shot to silver crystal?
It takes me about 10 days to get 1.5 kilos of pure silver crystal.
The silver bouncing off the ice was cool
Have you ever had a melting dish break? Not just during shot production, but at any point while using them to cast or melt? I'm wondering how often they will break (I've read they do occasionally but haven't had it happen to me yet)
I have not. But I've been warned by an experienced refiner who did have one break on him while melting two troy ounces of gold. He said, "never ever use a cracked melt dish. I did once and it broke just as the metal melted. It spilled out and hit the concrete forming millions of tiny balls that went every where". But then he went on to say that he carefully swept the floor and recovered all but two tenths of a gram. Very lucky. So I always look at my melt dish before melting to verify there are no cracks in the fused silica melt dish.
I've been thoroughly enjoying your refining videos. Here is Canada it is almost impossible to get nitric acid unless you're a licensed and registered company so I've been having a really tough time finding alternate methods of refining my silver. I'm curious if you have any other options for silver refining that are reasonably faster and do not require the use of nitric acid.
There are two methods I have that work to any degree: soak the silver in hot HCL with H2O2 for a LONG time, agitating with glass marbles to knock off any passivated silver chloride. This takes a VERY long time though. Or make a VERY weak nitric by dissolving a nitrate salt in HCL and bubbling through 35% H2O2 with a very fine air stone. I soak the silver in the H2O2 while I continually bubble the H2O2 and let the silver dissolve while the nitric acid forms. This works but it too is PAINFULLY slow and nitrate salts in concentrations high enough to be effective are also VERY hard to come by here in Canada.
Interested in your thoughts.
I've used sulfuric acid to dissolve silver, but it doesn't do it very well. I put a few pieces of sterling silver in dilute 50/50 sulfuric acid. It's been sitting for several months now and I can tell that the pieces have shrunk, but it sure has taken a long time. To get the silver out I'll add HCl to it and precipitate the silver chloride. There has got to be a way to make nitric suitable for dissolving silver. I've never tried it because I can get the nitric easily. You should check with a friend who has a business that can order it for you and you pay a small fee to them for doing it.
Thank you. I would like to try and make some but I just don't have the time. I'm far behind on my videos. But I will get caught up.
sreetips Just order it online. You don't need a license to buy nitric acid. It's cheaper to make it though. Combine ammonium nitrate and sulfuric acid and then distill it. There you go, nitric acid, easy.
I am using a Tabletop furnace to melt the silver with.
Hey sreetips, just watching your shot making video. I think you need more height to allow the surface tension to form spheres. When lead shot was made they built a huge tower to allow the shot to form spheres. Just a thought. T
Tim, I agree. I may get a tall garbage container and place the metal pot at the bottom with the entire container full of water to form a tall column of water. The pot that I use is just not tall enough to allow the molten silver to freeze. That's why it gets welded together on the bottom like it did.
Check out Chester Shot tower on d net thats a smallish one as well.!
I read the article on Wikipedia. Thank you for that reference. Learned something new here. The molten metal forms a perfect sphere while falling through the air and into water at the bottom of the tower. It doesn't fall through the water.
In my situation, perfect spheres are not needed. I just need the silver to freeze BEFORE they hit the bottom so they don't weld together like they did in my video.
You need to drop your molten shot from a higher distance up to give the shot time to bead up on its way down before it hits the water.
Agree
Do you happen to remember what size bit you used to drill the small hole in the dish? I tried this for a first run with 2 ounces and it came out nice, but I also had a handful of “flakes” and not shot. I’m wondering if the hole I drilled is too large or if maybe I didn’t wait for the water to get cold enough. Thanks in advance for any advice, and thank you for all the great videos!!!
It was about 1/8 inch
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Would this method work on shot made from silver plated items, or do you need to start with almost pure silver for the cell to work? Also is it economical to refine silver plated items or would you just stick with sterling? Thanks for all the great videos
The silver going in must be relatively high purity to begin with.
@@sreetips copy, thank you for the reply
Sir...did you drill the hole before glazing the dish? Super idea!!
Yes
If you just put a piece of metal underwater at an angle it will deflect the shot and prevent clumping, idealy you would want something an inch under the surface that is shaped like a funnel so you could deflect in a bunch of angels to prevent them forming together, easy.
I use a piece of wood fixed at an angle and pour the molten silver on to the wood. It works perfect.
Here is a link to a short video that shows the method that I now use: ua-cam.com/video/F_Md0Lc6F94/v-deo.html
@sreetips I've been curious about elecrolitic refining for a while. With all the electronic scrap, there's so little precious metals that you eat your profit away with the price of all the consumables (not to mention the cost if you buy your scrap). What do you think about running a copper cell, then running the slimes through the silver cell (after meeting with some silver that needs refined anyway), then all that's left is to refine the Platinum group metals and gold. It should, to some degree, reduce the amount of consumables needed right?
Not knowledgeable in these things, just extremely curious about the subject and don't know how to message directly.
Possibly increase the longevity of the electrolyte for the silver cell to?
That's how it's done at the industrial lever. Silver is a by-product of refining copper. But I think that refining copper would consume more resources than it's worth.
Which dose hot go on the anoid basket or the side of it
How about testing to compress that cement silver using a hydraulic jack? Thus creating pucks of silver with a far greater surface area for use directly in that silver cell. With the right tool you might even incorporate that anode bar straight into the puck. If this works you will save a lot of time and money using less gas.
I know that gold powder can be cold pressed in a gold ingot in the way that you described. But I'm not sure about silver powder. If it can then that would be a great suggestion.
You can make a small sample by simply pressing a small ammount in a pair of wise grips. If it in some way compresses to a small flat disk'ish square it will most likely work.
Have you tried using salt to make chloride then use sodium hydroxide to get to ph 13 then run either formaldehyde or peroxide
No, I haven’t.
Hi sir
Plz make gold electrosis refine video
Very great video
I desperately need your help
I can answer simple questions here in the comments section. But don’t offer any training or tutoring services.
@@sreetips thank you… I understand 2 methods that I e seen in your videos which are awesome btw… my question is… which method should I use to convert silver playing solution, use a silver cell like you have or use chloric acid ? And at the strength of 999 silver in the 500ml bottle,.. suggesting that the mole is about…9.25 roughly.. producing approximately 997 grams of silver… what’s your opinion. If have s click on this,.. the clock is my future in a very real way. I cannot fail or I’m in for a ride of my life.
Silver chloride conversion with lye and sugar, if done properly, will produce three nines pure silver and eliminate the need for using the silver cell to get high purity silver. I dissolve 600 grams of pure silver then add enough distilled water to achieve about 150g per liter concentration. I’m not familiar with moles, I’m not a chemist.
@@sreetips thank you…. Other than the silver plating solution which doesn’t seem economically feasible, can you suggest another way to produce silver in rapid fashion ?
639👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing
Could you please do a video for a complete noob without experience? I really want ro grow some silver crystals but it does semm intimidating..xan you do a video thats for a beginner? Maybe a series... Would be great!! Much reapect!! Please consider this...thank you!
I did a 3-part series on building and operating a small one liter silver cell.
@@sreetips sorry ill have to go find it... Super cool thanks!
Please help me understand. I’ve watched a few videos of yours about these silver cells. But I’m still unclear....
What is the purpose to them?
Don’t you get several 9s fine from the chemical refining?
Three nines is the goal. Cement silver is very close to three. Silver chloride conversion is very close to three. But the only way to be sure is in the silver cell.
It seems like it would cost more to go through all of this than the resulting silver... and would cost quite a bit to start up something like this.
I did take your tip though and invested in $7,500 worth of silver bars.
400 Oz of it,
Would it make sense to make that melting process into a more continous process (slowly adding cement silver to the dish), or would that be unrealistic? It seems like a lot of work for one person to melt a relatively small amount of silver, stop, add ice, add cement, reheat the dish and cement etc. etc.
I know it's a sort of first-world problem, but melting all that silver is a days work it seems, starting and stopping all the time.
Great video again :D
P.S. Why is it relevant to get the silver from 995 to 999 to 9999? It seems to take a lot of time, energy and effort for just under ½ percent more pure. Is there really that much value in that last .5 percent (or even .05 percent)?
Industry standard is three nines fine. Sometimes I make silver bars and sell them. When silver gets up over $50 per troy ounce, I'll start doing that again. If, by some chance, a customer decided to have one of my bars tested, then the test result had better come back as three nines or my credibility would be shot. Ruining credibility is something that a refiner, at any level, wants to avoid like the plague! The only way to guarantee that my silver is three nines fine, or better, is to run it through the electrolytic silver cell. In fact, I plan to run all my silver crystal back through the cell a second time, any silver I sell today has already been through twice. That silver should be up around five nines fine. What goes around - comes around.
I'll probably get a larger melt dish so that a bigger charge of silver can be melted at one time.
Oh, I know - but if you advertize it as 995 (or whatever) would the price really be that much lower? Rather than spending what must me several man-hours on melting, drying, electrolyting, remelting etc. Not to talk about the gas, chemicals and electricity you spend.
I love to see you do it, because it makes great videos. But I don't understand the financial side of it.
Btw. silver is at a very low price ATM. About 16 $/oz. So it might take a while to hit 50. What do you do with all that silver? You have many kilos in this video. You just stack it for better times?
Regarding your stock-pot, I think I recall you saying that you have a stock-pot for silver only. Have you refined that yet? Can we see it maybe? :D
I suppose that would make sense.
I think that those who buy my silver would shun it if my bars were advertised as 995. But you are right that it is a tiny amount, almost nothing.
Hi there, if someone was just starting out making crystals for the first time is there a tutorial on the best way to make the electrolyte, and where to get the impure silver shot from. many thanks
Zi haven't found one yet
Great question,I've been taking so meny notes
I have videos on making the cell from years ago. Also on how to make the electrolyte in a recent video. The impure silver shot comes from my gold refining videos. I use sterling/925 silver to alloy with karat gold, then pull the silver back out with hot dilute nitric acid. I “cement” the silver out of those solutions on clean copper, rinse and dry the 99% pure silver powder, then melt it and pour the molten metal into water to for silver shot/granules, then run that through the electrolytic silver cell to get high purity silver. The sterling/925 silver comes from local sales. My wife gets most of it for me.
Sir this is the second or third time I’ve watched this vid. Just wondering why you don’t use a rose bud torch instead of the cutting torch?
Hope all is going well with you and your family.
I've always used a cutting torch because that's what I started with and it works great for melting silver.
My dear friend I hope I didn’t offend you.
I just was thinking ( that ain’t always good. Just ask my wife.) working with steal, what takes several minutes with a cutting torch to heat up to a cherry red only takes seconds with a rose bud. If you have a Victor style small torch I’ll give you one of my extra rose buds. My email address is nickdun28y@outlook.com
Email me and I’ll confirm then send it to you. Maybe you like it maybe you hate it.
No foul, I was just answering your question. I prefer the cutting head because a rosebud might blow the silver powder out of the dish. Thank you for the kind offer.
Much loves ty sir
I was wondering..What if you upped the amount of ice and dropped the amount of water and made a slush to drop the molten silver into?
I've got a new way to do this, the best method that I've found so far. I copied it from a tv commercial about precious metals. The guy held a water-soaked wooden paddle under a stream of molten silver that dispersed the silver into small droplets that then fell into a tank of water. I made a video of it about a month ago. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/F_Md0Lc6F94/v-deo.html
Hey I put copper around mine n it touch water n made mine turn black an I dry it out then redesolved it an now restarting do u think it restart
Not sure
Hey. I have a question. I have a dirty gold powder. How better to clean it? Dissolve in Aqua Regia or melt with silver and boil in nitric acid? Thanks
A dirty gold powder? I don't know what to tell you. How you proceed will depend on what contaminates the gold powder.
XRF Analyzer shows:
Au - 92.8%
Sn - 0.28%
Ag - 5.67%
Pb - 0.19%
Pt - 0.46%
Cu - 0.05%
Ni - 0.17%
Fe - 0.38%
I would inquart with silver, part with hot dilute nitric, then dissolve in AR.
I have silver powder rendered by cementing it out on copper. But I go to melt it, it does not melt. It just gets red hot at 2000 degrees. What am I doing wrong?
That’s baffling. I’ve never experienced anything like that
I've really been enjoying your videos over the past several days. Thanks for this info. It peeked my interest so before i start running my silver, i decided to run copper in a copper sulfate solution for experience. I was wondering if there is a reason you run the cell at 3v. From what i have read about current determines speed of purification. I built the same setup you show and i also have the same lab power supply rated at 5A. i've been running the cell for four days now at 3v x 1.4A and all it seems to be doing is plating the SS bowl. I'm not getting any shoots. Would the process still work if i run it up to 9v x 4.75A?
Also, i know there is a bit of zinc in the copper i am running. Is there a color change from saturated copper to saturated zinc? if the solution were to become saturated with zinc would the cell start dumping zinc into the cell and leave the copper in the basket?
I usually run my silver cell at 3.5 volts. The voltage should be kept there. It's the current flow that does the work. Current flow (amps) will vary depending on electrolyte conc. Im not familiar with zinc or copper sulfate or copper cell, no experience there.
Where can i get a silver anode from Mr. Seetips
If you look at part two of my silver refining complete process for the amateur refiner video, it shows exactly how to made the electrode bar for the anode basket.
Hello ..Can i know what kind of mask you are using?
3mP95
great videos, but i must have missed something. where does the electrolyte come from?
The electrolyte is silver nitrate. I dissolve the silver with nitric acid. But you could use silver nitrate crystals dissolved in distilled water.
How many ozt of silver does it take take to do a cycle in the silver cell
Not sure, never taken the time to figure it out
Hey there Sreetips! Another totally awesome video. :-) I do have a question on this new method of making shot. How do you keep your crucible from cracking with the hole drilled through the crucible? Also noticed you didn't use borax as a flux? Is that something new you do as apposed to the old way you used to melt silver?
Eric, I've not noticed any cracks in the fused silica melt dish crucible. The crucible has already been treated with borax before I drilled the hole. A few pinches of borax wouldn't hurt to get the tiny balls of silver that cling to the sides of the dish to flow down into the main mass of molten silver.
sreetips have you tried making the hole in your melt dish smaller than 2mm? If you have what were your results? It seems like a very cool and efficient way to melt silver shot..
I've had a 50/50 luck ratio when I prime my melt dishes they're either cracked when I get them or crack due to heating borax to glaze the melt dish. I'm afraid to try drilling a hole because I think it would ruin the integrity of the melt dish. Any suggestions?
Eric, I've never had a melt dish crack while coating it with molten borax (please see my video on how to treat the melt dish crucible with borax). I have, in the past, added too much borax while treating a new melt dish and the borax will form tiny cracks after it solidifies. But this has never hurt the integrity of the actual fused silica melt dish. However, if you do see cracks in the melt dish itself then it's best just to throw it away. Melting metal in a cracked dish will cause the molten metal to spill out and form tiny beads that go in every direction onto the concrete floor. A real nightmare.
This was my first experiment with drilling a hole. It worked perfectly so I've never tried it with a smaller hole.
Wts the material of bowl kept on iron ring ?
The silver cell bowl is stainless steel.
Ha ha ha ha ha you're welcome. Im doing some more gold pins. 200 lbs sulphuric cell. Smh. Hey i have the uwin. 700 formula. But i dont have it perfected. The drill the hole shout out is appreciated
So that was you. Thanks for the tip. It works so much better!
Is this a profitable endeavor? How much do gas, electricity, and chemicals add up for extracting 1kg of 99% silver?
I’ve never taken the time to figure it. This is my hobby. My electric bill was a hundred bucks last month,
Can concentrated brine dissolve silver chloride? I read somewhere that concentrated HCl can dissolve AgCl due to the formation of a soluble (AgCl2)- complex. It appears that the Cl- ions from HCl is responsible, so i thought maybe NaCl works too. Can you test it out?
The only compound that I know of that will dissolve silver chloride is ammonia. Brine (salt water), when mixed with an aqueous solution of silver nitrate, instantly forms silver chloride. So I doubt very seriously that concentrated brine will dissolve silver chloride - it will not. Same goes for hydrochloric acid (HCl).
sreetips I know that when Cl- ions are added to dissolved Ag+, insoluble AgCl will be precipitated first. But im thinking that an extraordinary abundance of Cl- ions could form a soluble dichlorosilver complex. This is similar to how ammonia would first precipitate Ag2O from a silver solution, but an excess of ammonia would redissolve the oxide to form a soluble diammine silver complex. Many research papers claim that conc HCl could dissolve AgCl via a complex formation.
From where i come from, lab-grade reagents like ammonia and mineral acids are not commercially available (or even vaguely illegal to own).
HCl dissolving silver chloride - I never would have thought that it was possible.
Very few of the chemicals I use are lab-grade. I buy 10% ammonia at the grocery store, it is used as a household cleaning agent. I get my hydrochloric acid at the hardware store, it's used to clean concrete. 98% concentrated sulfuric acid is Rooto Drain Cleaner sold at the hardware store. None of these chemicals are even vaguely illegal to own where I live either.
I thought silver could not be made, that any silver is what is unearthed from the earth's crust.
I’m not “making” silver. I’m refining it. No additional silver is made in the cell. All you get out is what’s been put in, less all the impurities.
The reflect on the pot at 6:05 looks like a cat!
sreetips loves cottage cheese
What's the difference at the price on pure silver and crystals? I supposed that pure silver are crystals.?
Not sure
You could use a bigger spoon
I enjoy watching these videos but I do not like the way you use the torch. You should set it so you get a small baby blue flame, at the tip of this flame you will get the most heat and as you go away from the tip the heat drops off very fast. All the best, Edgar
Hey why don't it eat threw the metal bowl is it water down lot or how u keep it from going threw bowl
Science
Hey so how u keep it from eating the metal bowl cuz I m bout do that but trying figure it out so positive wire gose on were silver connected to top of were anoid basket is right
How many days is it take is that how u get most ur silver
I ve watched bout all ur shows on u tube
Can u do copper same way can I use serfric acid
Do u make profit with this
Yes
Woot! Made it in the first 10
Could someone explain what a silver cell is
I think this is melting the silver powder into granules so I can run it through the silver cell.
Cant you just out the cemented silver directly to the anode basket
Clogs the filter
What is the source of silver?
Sterling silver that I used to refine gold.
@@sreetips The powers that should not be are spraying silver iodide into the atmosphere. How can get that silver iodide from the atmosphere and refine it. How could I take the toxic barium from the atmosphere?
I'm so confused! You take silver. And make more silver? Even after watching a few videos I'm lost as as can be
No, I’m purifying the silver to greater than three nines fine. I only get out what I put in, less impurities.
FROM THE NECK UP...
Meathead
Also turn your pot do you don’t build a volcano
Turn the pot!!!
Hey guys I’m a newbie just trying to enter the game can someone help me reach out to me I need a mentor
Жаль английский не понимаю
seems kinda a lot for $16 an oz.
"Any thing worth doing is worth over doing"
Which dose hot go on the anoid basket or the side of it
Which dose hot go on the anoid basket or the side of it