Mayweather wasn't being slapped around with combinations in both hands and never had his right hand taken away from him. Mayweather with his defense could shut you down and simplify your fight strategy. while all this is happening he's hitting a jab, little combination, couple counters, pot shotting, making you miss, etc. Watch mayweather's fights. Watch Mayweather fight Canelo actually. Mayweather did GGG's game 1 million times better, but you'd give that fight to ggg on the merit that he had more jabs landed like its the basketball arcade game at Chucki Cheese. Canelo dominated
@@pvnchos1478 they don't care that Canelo will dominate a round for over 2 minutes. his power punches, combinations, counters, and defense don't mean shit lol apparently
Ronald Quin wtf. Mayweather shit canelo down. It wasn’t even competitive. That fight changed Canelo for the better tho. The judges will score a power shot over 3 jabs it’s just they way it is
I met Teddy personally in a beach town one time. It was an amazing experience. I always admired his opinion me being a life long boxing fan. I was working at Verizon one day and heard the unmistakable voice of Teddy Atlas to my left. I turned around and there he was talking to his friend. I said, “Are you Teddy?” Before I could finish he said, “Atlas.” He was such a humble man. We talked a little boxing. When he shook my hand before leaving, it was like shaking a hand of steel. He wasn’t flexing at all. This guy is the real thing, no joke. You just automatically feel naturally comfortable around this guy when talking to him. He is such a genuinely nice guy.
@Alfred Stanback I think Canelo lost the first ggg fight, but definitely won the second. He’s defeated Daniel Jacobs and Callum Smith who was arguably the best super middleweight at the time. He then defeated an out of his prime kovalev, who was still regarded as the best LHW at the time. I’m not a big Canelo fan, but dang is it hard to argue against his recent accomplishments. Now he’s preparing to fight Saunders. If Canelo wins this, the only person he has left to fight is Beterbiev or however you spell his name. Andrade and Charlo should both fight it out, they both have been avoiding any real competition hoping Canelo looks their way.
@DanTheMan GGG Canelo first fight was definitely not a draw, the second fight was closer to a draw (Canelo winning was a justifiable decision). Canelo had his back on the ropes the whole first fight, he’d work for 30 seconds then take the rest of the round off while Golovkin had him back peddling the whole fight
Who's the bigger cash cow for the boxing industry? The fighter at the end of his career in his late 30's or the younger guy who can continue to sell out arenas and sell millions of ppv's for the next 5+ years? GGG was only going to win by TKO/KO.
By far Teddy deserves a lot of RESPECT because he has openly called out the injustices done to fighters. He makes it a point to address things on the spot. He has called the sport of Boxing out for being bias and unfair. He loves the fighters and what they sacrifice to get where they are. He doesn’t back promoters and the social aspect of selling a fight. He sees the sport for what the fighters put in and do in the ring. Joe, I’ve become a big fan of yours over the years. I appreciate your eye on more than just sports. I loved the 2nd fight greatly. I did not appreciate the unprofessionalism GGG showed by leaving the ring but I also am not GGG and I don’t know the emotions he was feeling at that very moment when losing the fight so I can not appreciate it but I can not condemn him for it. Real people have real emotions and this sport has a huge toll on fighters mentally as well as physically. Great job by both fighters. I’ve watched the fight 4 times and loved it every time. We couldn’t have asked for a more action packed fight.
Imagine being robbed in the first fight. No one can honestly say that was a draw by any standard. And then the second fight, which GGG definitely did enough to win that fight, gets robbed a second time. I’d you want to say the second fight was a draw I’d be fine with that. But Canelo did not win either of those fights and 100% lost the first one.
I agree with Teddy, I thought GGG won both fights. But the second fight was very close, and 117-112 for GGG is a bit wide. He’s right, that judges award “aggression” too much, and for me much of the fight Canelo was in affective. I had it 116-114 for GGG and that was being generous to Canelo
And you can see the double standard s again, first fight GGG was the agresor and punching cheatnello through the ring and it's a draw,second fight cheatnello landed a couple shot's,he is in their eyes clearly the agresor and won the fight. They such ruined boxing so badly that the people are more and more looking to MMA
Jujhar Bling everytime i watch teddy atlas speak, he has this way about him where i just want to shut up, and listen to everything hes got to say! Hes so interesting and opinionated. He has a view on everything, but more importantly, his views are always original. Like an artist, he takes in what he sees, and then shares his views and opinions in a very deep way to the world. Im so glad hes on JRE! He should be regular guest
@@Wendigo922 Nah. GGG outboxed him. And you say that GGG was gassed by the 7th round yet he's the one who won all of the late rounds and almost KO'd Canelo in those rounds.
I just think it’s interesting that ever time someone goes the distance with Golovkin that they “ obviously “ beat him. You can’t knock out everyone!! That’s why there’s a point system. I’m a little “Old School “. ... I believe you have to beat the champ convincingly to take the title.
Aaron Chambers get the fuck outta here robbed my ass he wasn’t robbed the second fight at all I don’t give a fuck what you say rewatch it until you get it right stop being biased I saw the fight 10 fucking times it could have gone either way nobody got robbed
In the first fight GGG was the effective aggressor and should have won; in the second fight, he decided to box (mainly) and should have won on volume of punches landed. Two questionable decisions -- well, outright robbery. Anyone might imagine there was an element of corruption in boxing. Well, whoda thunk it?!
“He decided to box” yeah no he didn’t 😂 he didn’t have a choice canelo pushed him back the entire fight, out worked him n out landed him. I can understand someone thinking ggg won by a round but robbery? Have a day off canelo was hitting him clean all night long n also did great body work while ggg neglected the body completely. No one can complain about canelo getting the win. GGG won the first fight n slightly showed his age in the second
@@slickdon1 It was a long time ago. I'd argue that GGG won the first bout by a margin and Canelo did enough to win the second. There was a crazy woman judge in the first fight who may have surprised even Canelo.
First fight had fewer swing rounds and it ended up with a draw with one judge having it extremely wide for Canelo. Second fight had a lot more swing rounds and Canelo seems to have received all of those and two definitive rounds that should have favored Golovkin
I used to think so also. He’s a brilliant mind and a deep thinker. Listen to his whole interview. Yeah, he rambles but when he gets to the point, he really nails it.
I was always told snapping someones head back with jabs causes the lower back to tighten up. At a point in the fight canelo started stretching his back in between rounds and continued doing this the rest of the fight.
Alfredo Salgado it’s a mentality thing , you are too pre occupied with ads and making money right before the biggest fight of your career , one that would define your legacy . He wasn’t as prepared that’s y Mayweather outboxed him and won easily and the fight was a letdown
Haha..he has respect for ybe sport? Your a fool as well. You ever hear him shit on the sport or accuse boxers of cheating w no PROOF? or you just happen to miss that? He is A prejudice old man..leaving in the past.
@@jacobdestern4288 except I am denying that he won the second one. Triple G got hosed because he was older and on the way out, the only reason canelo was able to get the draw and ultimately the “win”
@@pillcosby3949 Canelo heavily outlanded GGG in both Body shots and Total Power punches during the second fight. And walked him down the entire time. There’s absolutely no way you could give that fight to GGG 😂
What Atlas didn't mention when talking about "the easy route" is how in Boxing they take "the easy route" and give it to the guy who walks forward and that they agve it to Canelo this time for it, but did not give it to GGG in the first fight despite Canelo was walking backwards the whole fight. A lack of consistency... glad he talk about the boxing corruption in this same podcast!
@@juancena8329 yeah, okay. He 100% lost the 1st 7 rounds. Go back and watch the fight... or ask Abel Sanchez why he told him he was losing the fight. How are you gonna cry about mexican style for a year, call someone out and then run... especially when GGG was the natural 160. Sorry, bro.
G boxed around canelo.bcanelo never drove him back. Last time I checked, canelo was backing up in the ropes. Not G. and canelo was the one that was hurt in the fight.
@@poppat3238 I like how you completely skip over the first fight because we all know that was a clear robbery, the second one was closer but GGG still outboxed him and the fight and round stats reflect that. Sure he didn’t walk them down but real boxers do whatever it takes to win, if Mayweather made a career out of winning using jabs and landing soft punches then GGG definitely won the second fight too. Also the “natural 160” comment is a bs excuse because canelo always fought smaller opponents at 155 and only went up 5 pounds for this fight with a clause for GGG so that he couldn’t weigh more than 160 even on fight night, and canelo was visibly the fuller more muscular framed fighter (who has even fought at 175). Face it, canelo needed PEDs, crooked judges, a lot of time to duck and avoid and wait for GGG to get older, an 8 YEAR youth advantage (HUGE in boxing) just to stand a chance and get a controversial win.
It's messed up what they did to GGG, boxing corruption always has the more popular fighter as the winner. It's not the first time and it won't be the last.
He did control the space and showed superior command and boxing . He did this after everyone said he can do nothing but come forward. Gennady is the only person to do this to Alvarez. Robbed and it's driving me from the sport
All constructive criticism are ok but I remember when Canelo ggg 1 happened teddy got laugh and said that it was a robbery for ggg , when ggg sergy fought he had a total different reaction you can tell who he likes as a fighter
Canelo/GGG 2 post fight... Canelo’s so 90% of the people watching excluding so called boxing experts couldn’t catch the dog shit ass beating he put on G 😂
Uzair Waheed that’s what I’m saying. Lol you got to take what females say when it comes to sport with a grain of salt man. Most of the time they don’t know what they’re talking about and are just repeating what their boyfriend said
@@Ramirezbaby24 When I watched it live I though it was a draw or a close decision either way. I wasn’t mad Canelo won bu GGG needed that W in major way.
Originally I scored this fight 116-114 for Golovkin. Then I rewatched it and had it 117-113 for Golovkin. I then analysed the punches and then rescored it 115-114 for Golovkin. It could have been a Draw, but I think GGG deserved the win. Canelo didn’t win this fight
GGG Clearly won the first fight on all counts, and GGG also won the closer 2nd fight among the boxing writers around the world. Las Vegas corruption / money grab for the younger Las Vegas guy canelo. GGG is the one who is the great middle wt - and his record shows it. GGG hold the record for the most middle wt title defenses...
@@Karimkarim-bj4gi Seriously? You are joking are you not? or do you know fu** all about fighting? The jab is the most important in boxing it sets everything else up. For a start it provides distance and makes the opponent defend. Muhammad Ali used his jab like no other as he threw it from low down because its hard to see coming
The 1st fight wasn't a draw. It was for GGG. This second fight imo, should've been a draw. It was close. Edit: It would've made more sense if this fight was to come out as a draw. It was a close fight. I just dont see how the 1st fight was a draw.
steveninthe Canelo did nothing impressive to win the 1st fight. GGG stalked him the whole fight and was the better fighter. The second fight could've gone to either fighter or even a draw
Most of Joe's guess even scientist Joe got them thinking and argued about but Teddy is so smart about fighting related stuff that kept even Joe speechless or less interruption,Joe just listens to Teddyr
The only time Joe had been completely speechless listening to someone speak mesmerized by the sty they were telling was with Tyson Fury. Tyson was telling him how he got out of his depression and went on to tell his story and you could see Joe wide eyed mouth opened listening attentively not wanting to skip a bit. Never seen that from Mr. Rogan to this day
So let me explain something to those of you just counting the power punches, boxing does not work that way. Clean punches and power shots count. Power shots can outweigh a jab, however the number of power shots has to be close to the number of jab and it wasn’t. Skill wins fights, Canelo didn’t show up to fight he showed up to survive and get the nod.
GGG won the first. Then they made him fight Alvarez again. Just didn't look like GGG thought it would be fair. Pretty sad when they called it a draw bc suddenly jabs don't matter.
I thought it was close , and could be scored either way , but the biggest surprise to me was Canelo looking like the more aggressive fighter , I didn’t expect ggg to be backing up
Wouldn't it be great if they put the rules for judging up before every fight? Power shot Strong jab Body shot Defensive technique Aggression Etc and made a clear demarcation of what is valued in these
For me the crowd was the difference in both fights, Every time canelo farted the crowd went bananas. Judges should be in an environment where they cannot hear the crowd but can head the fight (connection of punches etc).
I completely agree with Joe. First fight was triple G and second fight was def a draw, and I usually disagree with him. And the point of body's are to gas your opponent. I wouldn't score a good body punch higher than jabs. If the clean body punches don't gas out the opponent then it wasn't that good of a hit. Now I could easily see g getting tired but he tanked that shit so good , once it got to the later rounds he was still throwing and then canelo was getting tired, so second fight was easily a tie leaning toward triple G slightly
@@austinroccaro2219 With a Knockdown for GGG in that fight, Jacobs would have needed to win 8 rounds to win the fight. He didn't. The most generous you can be to Jacobs is to give him 6 rounds, but then that's still a win for Golovkin, since he has 6 rounds and a knockdown. Same for Derevyanchenko. Golovkin put them both on their arses, so even though they both fought well, neither of them won the 8 rounds they needed after the knockdowns. This is why Golovkin took both fights.
@@user-nn2fh5yo5w I agree with you. I think GGG got robbed. The second fight I scored the same as Teddy. No one gives credit for golovkins jabs. It's not like those are pawing jabs they were strong stiff jabs. He fought like the taller longer boxer should.
@@seanpiersonjr8964 his last comment says 7 months ago, this one said 3 months ago.. That means he wrote this one 4 months later,, you wrote 3 months later .. Just an observation.
The important tool for a boxer is the liver shot, ko punch, upper cut, and the power punch. But most people end up focusing on what themselves can throw. There have been many boxers that forget they have more tools. That is why a good coach is better than a jab...Khan was ko by Canelo because of bad instructions by his coach. no instructions is worse Check it out... Many ko happen that way.
@Azzury Street you're right from what I've seen this generation of New Yorkers sound middle American or retarded/uneducated or a parody of rapper. These observations are coming from a foreigner (Brit). You probably know more than me
GGG has the jab of a 300lb heavyweight. Those Kazakh bones are made of titanium. Every punch hurts his opponent. He never gets in the ring with any other plan than get the other guy out of there asap. Cuts the ring off and breaks you up.
Accuracy doesn't mean anything, it's who lands more in total. If I throw 100 punches and land 60 (60% accuracy), and you throw 70 and land 50 (71% accuracy), I'm still beating you by a good margin.
I knew from the beginning that teddy was upset with the results of the fight, he knows boxing but cause ur boxer looses also pay respect 117-112 wtf was is that come on.
Idk why but teddy is the type of guy where when you agree with him on an issue you love him and agree 100% but when you disagree with his point of view you want to hate him and think he’s insane lol
With Canelo, you'll have to knock him out to beat him now. He'll never lose on the cards, too many people making money off him. And even if you do KO him, they'll give him a 20 count and smelling salts.
Andrew Morisseau look it up bro I’m not telling lies, he said after the fight canelo deserved that win. I was impressed I thought ggg was going to win and I had canelo up by the end of the fight.
Damn Deal Done don’t be a moron. Spread lies? You can literally look up Sanchez saying it on UA-cam? After the fight he said canelo deserved the win and respect to him and his team. I expected ggg to win the second fight like he won the first, but to my surprise canelo won a solid fight. If you don’t box don’t speak on it because right now you sound like a ggg fangirl. Go away kid
Going into the 10th I had Canelo up 6 rounds to 3 & I thought he was gonna win. Then he faded & GGG stepped on the fucking gas and easily won 10,11 &12. I definitely think it could've been a draw. GGG landed absolute bombs in those last 3 rounds, can't believe some of the judges gave Canelo the 12th
agree completely anyone saying the second fight was a landslide either way is talking our their arse. In the first fight ggg was way more dominant then either in the second
@@jordymanunited those people saying that mustve closed there eyes for the last 3 rounds, haha. What's killing me in the fans that are saying they don't want to see a 3rd fight, that they've seen enough and that Canelo will win easy. Its funny cuz I remember a lot of fans saying the same thing going into Pac v Jmm 3 and look what happened. There's a reason y both fights between Canelo & GGG were close and competitive.
@@BrownBomber92181 the only reason that I might not want to see the third is because since the first fight ggg has been gradually declining and Canelo is hitting his prime. Considering he's been robbed at least once I would rather ggg not have two losses to canelo. it really doesn't reflect the skill level of the pair.
Jesus Christ! I mean, I disagree with Atlas' opinion of Mike Tyson, but I love this man's ZERO BS approach to life. Unbelievable. I would love to be coached by him if only in the psychological aspect.
Can y’all imagine Teddy Atlas as a kid explaining to the teachers why he didn’t do his homework.
And that teacher laying in bed at night, eyes wide open thinking about the lesson that was learned. 🤣
No.
watching at x2 speed is still not quick enough - so much bumbling babbling baritone waffle
BECAUSE TYSON WAS WEAK!!!! AND WHENEVER HE GOT TESTED, HE SHOWED THAT!!! AND CUSS SHould have listeeeeeeeeened😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
They'd do a swan dive out the window
GGG's jab is not really just a jab. whenever he landed it he snapped Canelo's neck back
No it didn’t. The jabs couldn’t even keep canelo back
@@israel1567 yea you are blind
@@RedloxBeats let’s make this civil. I’m rewatching the fight currently, whats your scorecard and which rounds did you score for GGG.
GGG has a jab like Sonny Liston's jab. It hurts like solid attention getting punch.
@@joesoto690 well said!
Teddy is the epitome of that uncle saying “boxing in my time was far better than today” at every bbq
Teddy takes a long time to answer but when he does answer you know more after than you did before.
Such a deep thinker.
No need to be edgy, just answer the question.
he sounds like a politician!!!😂😂
Fr dude talking all kind a stuf circling round and round, when i just want to hear his opinion on Nelo G
Atlas is a boxing genius
Ill say it since Teddy was being courteous... so the jabs counted for Mayweather but not for GGG? Double standards eh? Teddy is correct 100%
Mayweather wasn't being slapped around with combinations in both hands and never had his right hand taken away from him. Mayweather with his defense could shut you down and simplify your fight strategy. while all this is happening he's hitting a jab, little combination, couple counters, pot shotting, making you miss, etc. Watch mayweather's fights. Watch Mayweather fight Canelo actually. Mayweather did GGG's game 1 million times better, but you'd give that fight to ggg on the merit that he had more jabs landed like its the basketball arcade game at Chucki Cheese. Canelo dominated
So canelos body punches dont count?
@@pvnchos1478 they don't care that Canelo will dominate a round for over 2 minutes. his power punches, combinations, counters, and defense don't mean shit lol apparently
Ronald Quin wtf. Mayweather shit canelo down. It wasn’t even competitive. That fight changed Canelo for the better tho. The judges will score a power shot over 3 jabs it’s just they way it is
@@GGtheRealest u ain't never seen may vs castillo 1 or him vs maidana 1.
0:01 trying to wipe the dot of my screen, but it's just a mole on Joe's head.
Dead Right thanks for ruining this video for me 😂
@Jkong Hong It's a pay per view mole. Joe doesn't do undercard moles since $50 mil ago.
Lol
Same here lmao
i could've sworn he didn't have it yesterday
As Larry Merchant said, “ Some fighters enter the ring like they are going to a funeral, Manny Pacquiao enters like he’s going to a New Year’s Party.”
Then there's Fedor who looks like he's going to pick up groceries.
Lorendrawn fedor all around looks like your friendly neighbor that's a father of five.
Loved Teddy's comment that people don't wait and see about greatness anymore. One good year means someone is great is whack.
I met Teddy personally in a beach town one time. It was an amazing experience. I always admired his opinion me being a life long boxing fan. I was working at Verizon one day and heard the unmistakable voice of Teddy Atlas to my left. I turned around and there he was talking to his friend. I said, “Are you Teddy?” Before I could finish he said, “Atlas.” He was such a humble man. We talked a little boxing. When he shook my hand before leaving, it was like shaking a hand of steel. He wasn’t flexing at all. This guy is the real thing, no joke. You just automatically feel naturally comfortable around this guy when talking to him. He is such a genuinely nice guy.
He is a fake and bitter "man". Look at what he did and has said to mike tyson.
Teddy is a righteous dude. Boxing could use more like him.
That Tyson thing was in the past, they forgave eachother.
That is a cool story.
@@johnnyflorence219 he literally said he doesnt consider him one of the greats like 2 months ago? Wtf😂
The two Canelo and GGG fights have aged really well considering how dominant Canelo has been since.
@Alfred Stanback who is the “best” according to you. He literally faced GGG, the second best boxer right now in his division
@Alfred Stanback I think Canelo lost the first ggg fight, but definitely won the second. He’s defeated Daniel Jacobs and Callum Smith who was arguably the best super middleweight at the time. He then defeated an out of his prime kovalev, who was still regarded as the best LHW at the time. I’m not a big Canelo fan, but dang is it hard to argue against his recent accomplishments. Now he’s preparing to fight Saunders. If Canelo wins this, the only person he has left to fight is Beterbiev or however you spell his name. Andrade and Charlo should both fight it out, they both have been avoiding any real competition hoping Canelo looks their way.
@Alfred Stanback I should’ve expected that type of comment with that pfp
@DanTheMan GGG Canelo first fight was definitely not a draw, the second fight was closer to a draw (Canelo winning was a justifiable decision). Canelo had his back on the ropes the whole first fight, he’d work for 30 seconds then take the rest of the round off while Golovkin had him back peddling the whole fight
@DanTheMan top guys? Ha you're funny. He is fighting nobodys
Girlfriend: who is Jessica
Me: 4:23
coogi down 2 da socks that made my day
Brilliant
lol!!!
good one m8
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Instead of getting canelo vs ggg we got mayweather vs Pac-Man 🤣
Don’t get it!!
Teddy was and is always a pac hater. What a bitter guy. 🤣🤣🤣
@@olivermaneja5475 pac man hater and canelo hater as well
@@pap_e7389 he’s not a hater he’s speaking truth
@@pap_e7389 how the hell is he a hater??? Stop rising Pacmans nuts
Who's the bigger cash cow for the boxing industry? The fighter at the end of his career in his late 30's or the younger guy who can continue to sell out arenas and sell millions of ppv's for the next 5+ years?
GGG was only going to win by TKO/KO.
AnishaD23 very well said
Canelo beat him get over it stop making excuses
2 words: -> roid meat???? 🍖🍗💪😬👊😵
xOSAMAxLG still salty get over it Canelo is ggg daddy
Canelo is ggg daddy
Teddy Atlas is straight out of central casting for a boxing trainer.
By far Teddy deserves a lot of RESPECT because he has openly called out the injustices done to fighters. He makes it a point to address things on the spot. He has called the sport of Boxing out for being bias and unfair. He loves the fighters and what they sacrifice to get where they are. He doesn’t back promoters and the social aspect of selling a fight. He sees the sport for what the fighters put in and do in the ring. Joe, I’ve become a big fan of yours over the years. I appreciate your eye on more than just sports. I loved the 2nd fight greatly. I did not appreciate the unprofessionalism GGG showed by leaving the ring but I also am not GGG and I don’t know the emotions he was feeling at that very moment when losing the fight so I can not appreciate it but I can not condemn him for it. Real people have real emotions and this sport has a huge toll on fighters mentally as well as physically. Great job by both fighters. I’ve watched the fight 4 times and loved it every time. We couldn’t have asked for a more action packed fight.
Imagine being robbed in the first fight. No one can honestly say that was a draw by any standard. And then the second fight, which GGG definitely did enough to win that fight, gets robbed a second time. I’d you want to say the second fight was a draw I’d be fine with that. But Canelo did not win either of those fights and 100% lost the first one.
@@traviscarver4708 That's a 2 year old comment my dude but you nailed it anyway
Exactly.
I agree with Teddy, I thought GGG won both fights. But the second fight was very close, and 117-112 for GGG is a bit wide. He’s right, that judges award “aggression” too much, and for me much of the fight Canelo was in affective. I had it 116-114 for GGG and that was being generous to Canelo
And you can see the double standard s again, first fight GGG was the agresor and punching cheatnello through the ring and it's a draw,second fight cheatnello landed a couple shot's,he is in their eyes clearly the agresor and won the fight. They such ruined boxing so badly that the people are more and more looking to MMA
Nah 117-112 GGG is exactly right because if you add the rounds and points he won 117-112 GGG
I had it 115-113 or 116-112 for G. Canelo definitely did not deserve the nod, that’s for sure
@@robertvz9923 because 99% of Canelo fans are bandwagoners. Even worse is the DAZN panel and commentators. Sickening to listen to
"YOU DONT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TEDDY"- KANYE
I've been waiting for this
Help I need 14,100 subs by the end of this week or my two girlfriends will leave me for my brother Taylen
Me too!
Jujhar Bling everytime i watch teddy atlas speak, he has this way about him where i just want to shut up, and listen to everything hes got to say! Hes so interesting and opinionated. He has a view on everything, but more importantly, his views are always original. Like an artist, he takes in what he sees, and then shares his views and opinions in a very deep way to the world. Im so glad hes on JRE! He should be regular guest
Canelo got to ggg with some nasty body shots. Golovkin was gassed by the 7th round. It was really close but canelo ultimately got a slight edge.
@@Wendigo922 Nah. GGG outboxed him. And you say that GGG was gassed by the 7th round yet he's the one who won all of the late rounds and almost KO'd Canelo in those rounds.
I just think it’s interesting that ever time someone goes the distance with Golovkin that they “ obviously “ beat him.
You can’t knock out everyone!! That’s why there’s a point system. I’m a little “Old School “. ... I believe you have to beat the champ convincingly to take the title.
You dont have to be anything he was robbed both times the sexond time they where smart about it
What? No one is saying that. How many people said lemieux obviously beat him? Gtfo, stop being a fanboy.
And also that " you have to convincingly take the belts" is a myth. No one judge has that in mind round by round.
Aaron Chambers get the fuck outta here robbed my ass he wasn’t robbed the second fight at all I don’t give a fuck what you say rewatch it until you get it right stop being biased I saw the fight 10 fucking times it could have gone either way nobody got robbed
Todd Morris that doesn’t matter if you win then you win you don’t have to knock out the champ who gives a fuck it only matters if you win
In the first fight GGG was the effective aggressor and should have won; in the second fight, he decided to box (mainly) and should have won on volume of punches landed. Two questionable decisions -- well, outright robbery. Anyone might imagine there was an element of corruption in boxing. Well, whoda thunk it?!
“He decided to box” yeah no he didn’t 😂 he didn’t have a choice canelo pushed him back the entire fight, out worked him n out landed him. I can understand someone thinking ggg won by a round but robbery? Have a day off canelo was hitting him clean all night long n also did great body work while ggg neglected the body completely. No one can complain about canelo getting the win. GGG won the first fight n slightly showed his age in the second
@@slickdon1 It was a long time ago. I'd argue that GGG won the first bout by a margin and Canelo did enough to win the second. There was a crazy woman judge in the first fight who may have surprised even Canelo.
Keep scratching my screen to get that black dot off his head
😂🤣😂🤣
its like that fly in the movie 'the ring'
Lmfao
Joseph Corsaro its a chocolate chip you fucks
Joseph Corsaro this is why bald people should die 😂😂
First fight had fewer swing rounds and it ended up with a draw with one judge having it extremely wide for Canelo. Second fight had a lot more swing rounds and Canelo seems to have received all of those and two definitive rounds that should have favored Golovkin
EXACTLY !
This guy rambles a lot of random shit. Joe simply wanted to talk about gggvcanelo
I used to think so also. He’s a brilliant mind and a deep thinker.
Listen to his whole interview. Yeah, he rambles but when he gets to the point, he really nails it.
Lol true ..
CTE
@@izzojoseph2 he is but he really struggles staying on topic.
It’s called you not being able to understand what he’s saying. Many can’t, and that is okay. Stick to simpler guests.
Teddy's the man with fight knowledge 👍
EVERY BOXING COACH TELLS HIS BOXERS 'THE JAB IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PUNCH IN BOXING'!!!!!!
Thank you Teddy
Jab, jab, move , body shot.
Jab, jab, hook, move body shot
Jab, jab, jab, move, jab, jab, body shot, body shot, hook
That doesn't mean it counts more you idiot. Important in the sense that it can set up other shots, not in the sense that it counts more.
Come on Teddy spit it out!!!!
I was always told snapping someones head back with jabs causes the lower back to tighten up. At a point in the fight canelo started stretching his back in between rounds and continued doing this the rest of the fight.
FINALLY .....Someone raises the selfie situation
So what?
Idiot
@@dazhwood What happened with the selfie? Was it CCC?
Alfredo Salgado it’s a mentality thing , you are too pre occupied with ads and making money right before the biggest fight of your career , one that would define your legacy . He wasn’t as prepared that’s y Mayweather outboxed him and won easily and the fight was a letdown
The fight was about lots of money lose or win, I don’t get how the selfie is bad. Making more money, that’s smart.
Thanks Teddy 👍🏼
Good guest, he’s like that one older guy we have in the neighborhood he can tell a good story.
Teddy Atlas knows better who always win the fight! 👍 He got respect for the Sports!
Haha..he has respect for ybe sport? Your a fool as well. You ever hear him shit on the sport or accuse boxers of cheating w no PROOF? or you just happen to miss that? He is
A prejudice old man..leaving in the past.
If there was a draw, it was the second fight.. the first was a GGG win for sure
If you want to argue the first fight was a GGG win there’s absolutely no way you can deny that Canelo won the second
@@jacobdestern4288 except I am denying that he won the second one. Triple G got hosed because he was older and on the way out, the only reason canelo was able to get the draw and ultimately the “win”
@@pillcosby3949 Canelo heavily outlanded GGG in both Body shots and Total Power punches during the second fight. And walked him down the entire time.
There’s absolutely no way you could give that fight to GGG 😂
Take a drink when you hear Rogan say "Fight" on his podcasts
A drink of water? Ok
Because Bro everyone needs a reminder especially the judges!!!
Hey incredible!
Excellent analysis and no swearing.
Love ur podcast can u interview more boxers more often
agree 100% with ATLAS-A REAL BOXING AUTHORITY.
What Atlas didn't mention when talking about "the easy route" is how in Boxing they take "the easy route" and give it to the guy who walks forward and that they agve it to Canelo this time for it, but did not give it to GGG in the first fight despite Canelo was walking backwards the whole fight. A lack of consistency... glad he talk about the boxing corruption in this same podcast!
Teddy Atlas: he sees the end of a sentence but... just... can't... quite... get there...
GGG: Meet me in the middle! MEXICAN STYLE.
CANELO: Okay. *Pow Pow*
GGG: Nvm...
GGG still outboxed him twice
@@juancena8329 yeah, okay. He 100% lost the 1st 7 rounds. Go back and watch the fight... or ask Abel Sanchez why he told him he was losing the fight. How are you gonna cry about mexican style for a year, call someone out and then run... especially when GGG was the natural 160. Sorry, bro.
G boxed around canelo.bcanelo never drove him back. Last time I checked, canelo was backing up in the ropes. Not G. and canelo was the one that was hurt in the fight.
@@poppat3238 I like how you completely skip over the first fight because we all know that was a clear robbery, the second one was closer but GGG still outboxed him and the fight and round stats reflect that. Sure he didn’t walk them down but real boxers do whatever it takes to win, if Mayweather made a career out of winning using jabs and landing soft punches then GGG definitely won the second fight too. Also the “natural 160” comment is a bs excuse because canelo always fought smaller opponents at 155 and only went up 5 pounds for this fight with a clause for GGG so that he couldn’t weigh more than 160 even on fight night, and canelo was visibly the fuller more muscular framed fighter (who has even fought at 175). Face it, canelo needed PEDs, crooked judges, a lot of time to duck and avoid and wait for GGG to get older, an 8 YEAR youth advantage (HUGE in boxing) just to stand a chance and get a controversial win.
@@juancena8329 you must be one of them flat earther-Q people if u believe all that lol he got beat fair and square.
I love the sound of my voice atlas
Teddy Atlas... you are great.
Canelo and GGG 2 fight was awesome. The old school fighters were awesome too. A lot of so so fighters today.
It's messed up what they did to GGG, boxing corruption always has the more popular fighter as the winner. It's not the first time and it won't be the last.
He did control the space and showed superior command and boxing . He did this after everyone said he can do nothing but come forward. Gennady is the only person to do this to Alvarez. Robbed and it's driving me from the sport
that is not possible. Canelo dominated ggg.
Canelo lost to Lara to Mayweather and 2 times Triple G
@@nickycraig1594 Canelo Lost once. You're on crack
Bye Felicia
@@GGtheRealest you must not have watch the Lara fight or either Triple G fights
All constructive criticism are ok but I remember when Canelo ggg 1 happened teddy got laugh and said that it was a robbery for ggg , when ggg sergy fought he had a total different reaction you can tell who he likes as a fighter
No, because they’re entirely different fights with different results you fucking doughnut
Teddy dont like Canelo & loves GGg
Canelo/GGG 2 post fight... Canelo’s so 90% of the people watching excluding so called boxing experts couldn’t catch the dog shit ass beating he put on G 😂
Uzair Waheed that’s what I’m saying. Lol you got to take what females say when it comes to sport with a grain of salt man. Most of the time they don’t know what they’re talking about and are just repeating what their boyfriend said
@@jimothyasteward1829 lmaoooo tell me about it dude
GGG and Abel Sanchez should have never been talking about “Mexican Style” going into the rematch.
Even Abel admitted Canelo won the 2nd fight lol
alex valencia A win is a win. Canelo got the decision, what I was saying is that all that talking team GGG did going into the fight didn’t help.
Ggg got robbed
@@Ramirezbaby24 When I watched it live I though it was a draw or a close decision either way. I wasn’t mad Canelo won bu GGG needed that W in major way.
@@Unclejack328 second one ggg was old if he'd fought him 5 years before hand would've been a v bad night for Canelo
Originally I scored this fight 116-114 for Golovkin. Then I rewatched it and had it 117-113 for Golovkin.
I then analysed the punches and then rescored it 115-114 for Golovkin.
It could have been a Draw, but I think GGG deserved the win. Canelo didn’t win this fight
I scored the 1st fight 114-113 for GGG and the 2nd fight 114-113 for Canelo
Good thing you aren’t a judge
GGG Clearly won the first fight on all counts, and GGG also won the closer 2nd fight among the boxing writers around the world. Las Vegas corruption / money grab for the younger Las Vegas guy canelo. GGG is the one who is the great middle wt - and his record shows it. GGG hold the record for the most middle wt title defenses...
Two legends talking. Ima smoke weed run my cnc machine and listen
Hey man that was an excellent discussion. Cheers.
AND THE JAB IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PUNCH IN BOXING!!!!!!!
Not when your eating combinations all night😂
the jab is the laziest punch in boxing bro .
@@Karimkarim-bj4gi bro you'd prolly get stunned by a jab 💀 you dont know shit bout boxing
The jab is like the immigrants..... U dont see it coming 😆 😆
@@Karimkarim-bj4gi Seriously? You are joking are you not? or do you know fu** all about fighting? The jab is the most important in boxing it sets everything else up. For a start it provides distance and makes the opponent defend. Muhammad Ali used his jab like no other as he threw it from low down because its hard to see coming
The 1st fight wasn't a draw. It was for GGG. This second fight imo, should've been a draw. It was close.
Edit: It would've made more sense if this fight was to come out as a draw. It was a close fight. I just dont see how the 1st fight was a draw.
U stupid
steveninthe Canelo did nothing impressive to win the 1st fight. GGG stalked him the whole fight and was the better fighter. The second fight could've gone to either fighter or even a draw
hybridrift 86 Just as your reply idiot
I agree.
Ggg both
Most of Joe's guess even scientist Joe got them thinking and argued about but Teddy is so smart about fighting related stuff that kept even Joe speechless or less interruption,Joe just listens to Teddyr
The only time Joe had been completely speechless listening to someone speak mesmerized by the sty they were telling was with Tyson Fury. Tyson was telling him how he got out of his depression and went on to tell his story and you could see Joe wide eyed mouth opened listening attentively not wanting to skip a bit. Never seen that from Mr. Rogan to this day
Respect Teddy, but Alvarez landed quicker more effective punches in both fights. Negated triple GGGs power. Made him look slow..
So let me explain something to those of you just counting the power punches, boxing does not work that way. Clean punches and power shots count. Power shots can outweigh a jab, however the number of power shots has to be close to the number of jab and it wasn’t. Skill wins fights, Canelo didn’t show up to fight he showed up to survive and get the nod.
Teddy Atlas is all over the map :-)
GGG won the first. Then they made him fight Alvarez again. Just didn't look like GGG thought it would be fair. Pretty sad when they called it a draw bc suddenly jabs don't matter.
And canelos a cheater lmao, foo got caught using performance enhancers
@@gingerbreadman7357 lost on steds how embarrassing ahaha
Canelo was the favorite, Ggg had to win without a doubt and that did not happen.
May weather lost to Castillo by far and he also lost to Maidana
They robbed the man and its ruining boxing
Teddy Atlas could play the perfect Richard 'Ice Man' Kuklinski in a movie
Kuklinski was 6ft 5..Teddy is 5ft 8 apart from the 9 inch height difference you may have a point.
I thought it was close , and could be scored either way , but the biggest surprise to me was Canelo looking like the more aggressive fighter , I didn’t expect ggg to be backing up
Wouldn't it be great if they put the rules for judging up before every fight?
Power shot
Strong jab
Body shot
Defensive technique
Aggression
Etc and made a clear demarcation of what is valued in these
ushojedi i agree!!! but boxing hasnt really developed into a sport 100%. its a fight or a boxing match and sometimes both.
But it’s easy to see who’s won that’s why some fights are controversial if boxing wasn’t corrupt every fight would be fair
It’s boxing, everybody wins except the fans 🤷♂️💰
I won 2k, thanks to Canelo 😀
You’re not a real fan if you expect everything to go on your way everytime
Damaskino on monopoly for sure
@@unclonmas And judges lol. Must have been nice. lol
@@unclonmas thanks to the judges *
I dont always agree with Teddy but i will always respect his honesty.
Teddy knows a robbery when he sees it
Teddy sounds like Arnold Schwarzenegger and New York accent combined lmao.
True that lmao...
For me the crowd was the difference in both fights, Every time canelo farted the crowd went bananas. Judges should be in an environment where they cannot hear the crowd but can head the fight (connection of punches etc).
3:00 was funny...and when i remembered teddy trained bradley it was much more funnier 😂🤣🤣😂
I completely agree with Joe. First fight was triple G and second fight was def a draw, and I usually disagree with him. And the point of body's are to gas your opponent. I wouldn't score a good body punch higher than jabs. If the clean body punches don't gas out the opponent then it wasn't that good of a hit. Now I could easily see g getting tired but he tanked that shit so good , once it got to the later rounds he was still throwing and then canelo was getting tired, so second fight was easily a tie leaning toward triple G slightly
Teddy spitting facts as usual.
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Charlo is now the wbc interim middleweight champion.
Canelo/Charlo will be a good fight to make.
Joe Rogan loves hagler lmao. He made sure to mention him instantly when teddy named off the greats lmaool
4:24 when your teacher ask you a question in class
I knew this fight was fixed....i thought it was a draw but they explained it way better n its GGG who should of have won
Teddy Atlas ...... Absolute legend, straight up guy, honest as the day is long ........ Top Man!
He full on said my shoulder is in pain
i love Teddy's take on this.
4:26 😂 I jus eh em uhhh ya huh mmm
Tony Nellins lmfao
It's very sad when a boxer loses due to being robbed.
Yeah it sucks when it happened to Jacobs vs ggg
or ggg vs the dervenchenko guy
@@austinroccaro2219 GGG destroyed jacobs bro
@@austinroccaro2219 With a Knockdown for GGG in that fight, Jacobs would have needed to win 8 rounds to win the fight. He didn't. The most generous you can be to Jacobs is to give him 6 rounds, but then that's still a win for Golovkin, since he has 6 rounds and a knockdown.
Same for Derevyanchenko. Golovkin put them both on their arses, so even though they both fought well, neither of them won the 8 rounds they needed after the knockdowns. This is why Golovkin took both fights.
@@austinroccaro2219 you’re so fucking delusional. GGG put Jacobs on his ass. GGG beat Canelo twice in both fights.
2nd fight VERY close! Either could've won in my opinion. But GGG got ROBBED in the first fight!!
Naaa Canelo won the 2nd.....barely...but still won...GGG clearly won the 1st
@@Mossman4reel I agree 100% it should be 1-1
@@Mossman4reel Nqh, Canelo lost the both fight. And it wasn`t that close.
@@user-nn2fh5yo5w I agree with you. I think GGG got robbed. The second fight I scored the same as Teddy. No one gives credit for golovkins jabs. It's not like those are pawing jabs they were strong stiff jabs. He fought like the taller longer boxer should.
Agreed.
That clip felt waaaay longer than 12mins.
Clenelo fans keep bringing up that there are some pro boxers that say that Clenelo won. Well, there are LOTS of pro boxers that say GGG won it!!!!!
The only thing that matters is what the judges say lol
This guy said "clenelo"😂😂😂
Abel Sanchez even told GGG he was losing 😂😂
@@elvisteran494 he said that just to motivate GGG
And the jab is the ''MOST IMPORTANT PUNCH IN BOXING'''!!!!!!!!!
Bro why say the same comment 3 months later🤔😂
@@seanpiersonjr8964 7-3=4...just saying...
@@peterthe3rdbanks287 what bro?
@@seanpiersonjr8964 his last comment says 7 months ago, this one said 3 months ago.. That means he wrote this one 4 months later,, you wrote 3 months later
.. Just an observation.
The important tool for a boxer is the liver shot, ko punch, upper cut, and the power punch. But most people end up focusing on what themselves can throw. There have been many boxers that forget they have more tools. That is why a good coach is better than a jab...Khan was ko by Canelo because of bad instructions by his coach. no instructions is worse
Check it out...
Many ko happen that way.
Teddy atlas is a boxing dictionary he knows the sport !
Lose the judges and fight until knockout. This solves the issue of judges being fixed/inconsistent and people get what they want in the knockout.
When deniro and teddy atlas are dead is anybody gonna be talking like that any mo? I love the NY accent... ❤️
You mean Italian New Yorkers because there a few Jewish and African American New Yorkers still knocking about
@Azzury Street you're right from what I've seen this generation of New Yorkers sound middle American or retarded/uneducated or a parody of rapper. These observations are coming from a foreigner (Brit). You probably know more than me
And now all you fools know the truth,GGG got Robbed twice if you know a little bit about boxing you know what im talking about
Ggg got his ass whooped😂
GGG has the jab of a 300lb heavyweight. Those Kazakh bones are made of titanium. Every punch hurts his opponent. He never gets in the ring with any other plan than get the other guy out of there asap. Cuts the ring off and breaks you up.
He asked if the jab doesnt count anymore but yet people forget that better accuracy also counts
Accuracy doesn't mean anything, it's who lands more in total.
If I throw 100 punches and land 60 (60% accuracy), and you throw 70 and land 50 (71% accuracy), I'm still beating you by a good margin.
I knew from the beginning that teddy was upset with the results of the fight, he knows boxing but cause ur boxer looses also pay respect 117-112 wtf was is that come on.
Idk why but teddy is the type of guy where when you agree with him on an issue you love him and agree 100% but when you disagree with his point of view you want to hate him and think he’s insane lol
And I slept half through the video 😶😶
When Joe Says Champion of the World...
Joe Rogan is the World.
117-112?? REALLY???
You believed it when canela had that score
Guy guy guy
@@gar.es.bar_ You believe 118-110 Canelo though, right?
Estuvo parejota, la verdad yo pensé que sería empate agaim
Teddy you need to go away lol......dementia
With Canelo, you'll have to knock him out to beat him now. He'll never lose on the cards, too many people making money off him. And even if you do KO him, they'll give him a 20 count and smelling salts.
Nobody is knocking out Canelo.
So true
@@nailchristian03 ggg prime would've had a chance imo but we will never know. Either way two of the best chins in boxing
If GGG trainer says canelo won, that win is confirmed. Canelo fought GGG’s fight and came forward from the start of the bell.
Sanchez never said Canelo won
Anthony is too stupid and lazy to ever bother corroborating the nonsense he reads. Just a moron that spreads lies.
Andrew Morisseau look it up bro I’m not telling lies, he said after the fight canelo deserved that win. I was impressed I thought ggg was going to win and I had canelo up by the end of the fight.
Damn Deal Done don’t be a moron. Spread lies? You can literally look up Sanchez saying it on UA-cam? After the fight he said canelo deserved the win and respect to him and his team. I expected ggg to win the second fight like he won the first, but to my surprise canelo won a solid fight. If you don’t box don’t speak on it because right now you sound like a ggg fangirl. Go away kid
@@abecerra3060 Saying he "deserved the win" is completely different than saying Canelo won.
117-112 GGG??? He wasn’t watching the same fight!
the only way ggg would win that fight was by ko. end of story.
Did he even try to win?
No shit how is he going to outbox canelo? Who is clearly the best boxer.
be don't forget he pop positive hes a cheat
The only way people will accept that Canelo beat GGG is if he wins by KO!!
Random Google Name GGG got like a 97% KO ratio, why hasn't he done it?
Going into the 10th I had Canelo up 6 rounds to 3 & I thought he was gonna win. Then he faded & GGG stepped on the fucking gas and easily won 10,11 &12. I definitely think it could've been a draw. GGG landed absolute bombs in those last 3 rounds, can't believe some of the judges gave Canelo the 12th
agree completely anyone saying the second fight was a landslide either way is talking our their arse. In the first fight ggg was way more dominant then either in the second
@@jordymanunited those people saying that mustve closed there eyes for the last 3 rounds, haha. What's killing me in the fans that are saying they don't want to see a 3rd fight, that they've seen enough and that Canelo will win easy. Its funny cuz I remember a lot of fans saying the same thing going into Pac v Jmm 3 and look what happened. There's a reason y both fights between Canelo & GGG were close and competitive.
@@BrownBomber92181 the only reason that I might not want to see the third is because since the first fight ggg has been gradually declining and Canelo is hitting his prime. Considering he's been robbed at least once I would rather ggg not have two losses to canelo. it really doesn't reflect the skill level of the pair.
@@BrownBomber92181 as a fight fan it still would be unreal one but think its just cause I feel bad for ggg from the first two
Canelo did win the 12th round
Jesus Christ! I mean, I disagree with Atlas' opinion of Mike Tyson, but I love this man's ZERO BS approach to life. Unbelievable. I would love to be coached by him if only in the psychological aspect.
Canelo easily won the second one, the first one was a draw. Both decisions correct.