shes good for him. shes realistic and hes realistic. but she is a firecracker but hes more tame. makes complete sense. yet they also have fun and are goofy together. ugh this is what makes a lasting foundation.
Seeing Joe be happy after being depressed all day really made me smile like it’s soooo cuteee. LIKE I LOVE THEM TOGETHER. AND IM GLAD HES GONNA STAY NOW
I don’t think it’s fair that everyone is saying every early 20 year old is immature and looking for different things. When I was 22 I already knew what I wanted and I dated guys in their early and mid 30s and they didn’t know what they wanted and were really immature. Age doesn’t matter, what matters is the type of people you meet. You could meet a guy whose 24 and have him be really mature while a 37 year old can be extremely immature. It really comes down to the person or people really…
Your BRAIN isn't fully developed until age 25 or 26. Age DOES matter !! If you look at the divorce stats, the divorce rate goes way down if couples are 27 or 28 or older when they marry.
@@shelleycharlesworth5177 I totally agree! Especially the male brain LOL. Studies show that female brains mature by around age 21, whereas male brains don't fully develop until they're 25-26. My biggest fear for some people marrying too young is what if they have some sort of existential midlife crisis where they want to do everything later in life they wish they had done in their early years (like date/sleep around). I was always told growing up that, for most men, it's important for them to get dating multiple women out of their system BEFORE they settle down and get married, otherwise they may cheat. I never used to believe this until I reached my 20s and saw it myself. I'm not saying all men and couples should be this way and I do really admire young love, but it's very tough nowadays. Also, having a stable career and source of income (maybe even savings) usually happen when both partners are older.
@@georginab7009 - thank you and I agree with all you say. The main thing you gain when you give yourself time to mature is self-knowledge. I knew myself way better at age 26 than I did at age 22. I also had 4 years of being a teacher under my belt and had my just bought my own condo at age 26. So I had some life experience. I had savings and a paid off car ! I had dated a lot and traveled a bit.
I'm surprised when she said she's only 23. She looks young but I thought she's older because the way she carry herself & acts mature for her age even when she was at Matt's season. I'm more concern about her getting heart broken because Joe is older & may not over Kendall yet. She seem like a great person inside & out. I Hope they continue to get to know each other & hope things works out.
Just curious, having gotten further into the season do think Joe is over Kendall? Do you think they have more or less of a chance now that you’ve watched more?
Serena is so cute smiley and positively adorable you can see her injecting Joe with loads of serotonin and endorphins._.. Suddenly his heart is beating so much harder as she breathes life into his 35 year old jaded psyche ; they both have unique characteristics & perspective to balance out each other and make this potentially a really successful relationship
I am really excited to see what will happen between these two. I really like her energy for Joe. He's so quiet and introverted and shes bubbly. Great first episode so far!
I can most certainly see Joe giving up everything to be wherever Serena wants to be..... Looks like he's more smitten with her than he was with Kendall. I can just imagine him like, "Whatever you want, Serena. Lets do that".
When I was 20 I dated a 27 year old and I remember thinking that he was so much older and mature. 12 years is a lot but for someone like Joe who cares lol. His goofiness and awkwardness is adorable.
i mean the age difference is a little weird so i get the hesitancy. especially since joe already did the whole dating and breakup because of wanting different things in life. they’re like in different life stages
People are talking about their age difference but Lauren and Arie had almost the same age gap and they got married and went on to have lots of kids. People need to stop infantilizing Serena. Just last year people were talking about how grown she was and now it's oh she doesn't know any better. she's a grown woman who knows what she wants, and stop projecting what you did when you were 23. Things like " the brain doesn't fully develop until you're 25" is complete bs. I cant believe people are making a big deal of two consenting adults wanting to be together. America is so weird.
@@kate.3110 Lauren and Arie have a 10 year age gap and Serena & Joe have a 12 year age gap. My parents also have a 12 year age gap and they've been married for over 35+ years. I think once you're out of college an age gap should no longer be an issue. It's a relationship between two consenting adults. Guys in Serenas age are not looking for long term relationships, they're still in their early 20s and would not want to settle down until they're in their 30s. Having a guy like Joe whos financially stable, knows what he wants and is actually looking for a committed relationship long-term is what attracted Serena to him ( this is speculations just by their interaction). I do see them going the distance.
Does anyone else feel that the judgement regarding the age difference is only valid for GSJ/Serena and not so much towards Brendan/Pieper even though they have a considerable age-gap as well? I can understand the bias because of GSJ's questionable, controversial energy but if it's an age-gap we are criticising, shouldn't it apply to Brendan/Pieper too?
You should remember that it is case by case. Plenty of men seek out younger women in order to be in control. That control may be from different aspects (mental,financial, you name it). And often these women don't even realize as ''he is older and more stable''. Lauren and Arie had already both lived and knew what they want. Arie didn't seek her out. And I think it's just as fine here as neither doesn't seek the other out on purpose due to some personal issues. They clicked naturally. They could be just in different points and it may not be even about commitment. Or it could work just fine. BUT with that being said, your mindset is pretty dangerious. Two years is not the same as 12. And it's creepely interesting to see what older party sees in much younger partner who has barely lived as an adult.
That's kinda a huge gap. Don't know what a 38 year old man would have in common with someone so much younger. Generally it's cos they're emotionally immature that's why they go for younger women.
@@hoangtran2292 If you have both clearly communicated what you want ie marriage, kids, how to raise a family, where to live, career choice etc and if those things are the same it does work.
@@Crystalbomb321 A lot, we had a similar background and even though it was at different times the values and morals and things he held to a high standard were the same for me.
I’m conflicted. I loved him and Kendall and I feel like it was less mutual than he would have us believe. But also, Serena is sweet and they are cute together.
@@franziskamaria5157 That’s a fair reason to breakup. But from the spoilers (I won’t say) it just sounds like Joe was the one to make the final cut in the relationship, or maybe he was just able to move on more easily. In my personal experience ‘mutual’ breakups are never 50/50. One of the two always pushes for the breakup a bit more than the other. Or in some cases one wants to break it off so they start doing things that will push the other person away until eventually they come to a point where they agree its not working. But one person has to initiate the conversation that leads to the breakup and make that final cut. I’ve been on both sides.
@@LoveLaw for sure. It was definitely a little more on Joes part since he moved back to Chicago after moving in together with Kendall, but they broke up early last year and that’s enough time to be ready and open for a new relationship, so I don’t agree with some people who say he is still hung up on her. I know about the spoilers and hope they are still true after everything airs out.
@@franziskamaria5157 I have a feeling that Kendall and him talk as friends when she comes back. At this point they have been apart for awhile. For the people saying he's not over her, though. I mean, the way he talks about her is red flaggish. And tries really hard not to cry and even talking to Serena, reminding him of Kendall. It does concern me for Serena. It doesn't mean it won't work out, it could be the best relationship ever (I don't know, at all). But, starting a relationship with someone when he's mourning the loss of his past relationship (no matter how much time has passed), is not the surest start. I watched when him and Kendall got together and it was so mutual. I don't love the power dynamic between them. But this is just day 1. If he says he loves her later, I'm sure the relationship develops a lot and fast. I also think Kendall was blindsided when they split. It may have ended up "mutual", but it seems like it was a surprise to both parties (although it doesn't sound like there was a 'bad guy').
I don't think he was comparing serena to kendall, i think he was identifying his in love or special feelings in the past or remembering the last time he felt that way which was with kendall, i think it was an observation, but yes, i think his emotional reaction tells me that he has unhealed wounds from his relationship with kendall & then to suddenly flip & decide to stay after 1 conversation with serena, i find it questionable
Don’t judge a book by its cover I was 22 and I have dated guys that age and guys my own age. One isn’t more mature than the other it really comes down to the people you meet. Theres nothing wrong with that. Everyone has their own preferences.
@J Kinng that’s not true I’ve dated 30+ year olds who are still really immature and don’t want anything serious and I was like in my early 20s. I never partied even in college. Everyone is different. Don’t judge.
I do have to say it was reassuring to hear him speak about BIP as a success before. And to miss Kendall and think of her. Not that I'm glad that he was sad. But it did seem almost respectful. I respect each of them in what they need to do. But yah, I loved them together.
I love them as a couple. He need to clear his head, of the heart ache, of his past. Make the way clear, to get to know her. He need new memories, and I think that she can give them to him. ❤️
@@brieb4317 If you didn’t do as I said;. You should know, I wasn’t talking about you. If you didn’t send that comment, to the one’s that I were talking about, “then close your pie hole”. 👎 Now! I said what I saw. Serena, didn’t have a lot of makeup. Someone said she wasn’t the most attractive one. That.’s when I stepped in. Stop trying to get likes, and show some love . ❤️✌🏽
I usually think this but if u pay close attention to the music in the background when they kiss, they only ever play music like that if it's a solid couple that goes pretty far.And by the previews, I'm going to assume they go really far + i heard rumors that they're engaged
Every single guy in his 30s and 40s choosing girls in their early 20s. Seen it all before. Funny how I don’t see that for single women in their 30s and 40s.
not feeling them at all. the age difference and relocation will probably become a hurdle if they stay 2gether. I was totally seeing her with maybe ivan or demar. but u never know.
I think I'm mostly bothered by the way she reacts to his age. Maybe she's not bothered by it but teasing him...I dated a guy twelve years older than me and he often brought up our age difference and I didn't. I have had friends a lot older than me who didn't talk down to me or bring it up as much as he did. Joe really needs a certain type of person and I dunno if she's it
Paradise is different to the Bachelor though. They spend 24/7 together on that beach. The Bachelor U have heard contestants say that your lucky to spend 30 hours total together and that's if your the person they pick.
I find it to be so much more respectable when a man of his age can acknowledge the age difference and step away. 23 is a very young woman. He can find her attractive and cool and all that and still say- you’re just too young. but instead he’s smiling all goofy and it’s grossing me out for real…
“You getting engaged at the end of this”
Cut to the finale, these two getting engaged and everyone is happy to see it!
shes good for him. shes realistic and hes realistic. but she is a firecracker but hes more tame. makes complete sense. yet they also have fun and are goofy together. ugh this is what makes a lasting foundation.
Paradise always gives us the unexpected couples and I love it
This is why I watch
I feel like I understood her personality more in this one clip than I did the whole time she was on bachelor. I see why Matt was enamored with her :)
Thats because she wasnt into Matt, Matt wasnt good looking or a nice guy. Clearly she is into Joe.
@@joelsmoe1998 Good looking for many, probably not good-looking also for many...
@@joelsmoe1998 are you kidding me? Matt is so handsome and seems like a sweetheart
But Matt was more in love with Rachel. Serena was more on guard and it wouldn't work with Matt.
She was so not into Matt. She's been so open with her feelings to Joe.
Seeing Joe be happy after being depressed all day really made me smile like it’s soooo cuteee. LIKE I LOVE THEM TOGETHER. AND IM GLAD HES GONNA STAY NOW
Serena's laughter is so infectious, what a sweet heart; she knows how to make Joe blush and.come out of his shell.
I don’t think it’s fair that everyone is saying every early 20 year old is immature and looking for different things. When I was 22 I already knew what I wanted and I dated guys in their early and mid 30s and they didn’t know what they wanted and were really immature. Age doesn’t matter, what matters is the type of people you meet. You could meet a guy whose 24 and have him be really mature while a 37 year old can be extremely immature. It really comes down to the person or people really…
Your BRAIN isn't fully developed until age 25 or 26. Age DOES matter !! If you look at the divorce stats, the divorce rate goes way down if couples are 27 or 28 or older when they marry.
@@shelleycharlesworth5177 I totally agree! Especially the male brain LOL. Studies show that female brains mature by around age 21, whereas male brains don't fully develop until they're 25-26.
My biggest fear for some people marrying too young is what if they have some sort of existential midlife crisis where they want to do everything later in life they wish they had done in their early years (like date/sleep around). I was always told growing up that, for most men, it's important for them to get dating multiple women out of their system BEFORE they settle down and get married, otherwise they may cheat. I never used to believe this until I reached my 20s and saw it myself. I'm not saying all men and couples should be this way and I do really admire young love, but it's very tough nowadays. Also, having a stable career and source of income (maybe even savings) usually happen when both partners are older.
@@georginab7009 - thank you and I agree with all you say. The main thing you gain when you give yourself time to mature is self-knowledge. I knew myself way better at age 26 than I did at age 22. I also had 4 years of being a teacher under my belt and had my just bought my own condo at age 26. So I had some life experience. I had savings and a paid off car ! I had dated a lot and traveled a bit.
@@shelleycharlesworth5177 I totally agree with you! You have much more self-knowledge, self-awareness, and experience! I'm 27 and feel the same way!
@@georginab7009 when they say the brain stops developing after 25 it applies to women too
Joe is so funny and odd but in such a good way and despite their age gap they are both odd and funny together. They are just adorable.
I don’t think he’s odd, he’s shy and nervous around a woman he likes.
Joe is so adorable. I'd take him in a hearbeat.
So adorable
He's really nice
I'm surprised when she said she's only 23. She looks young but I thought she's older because the way she carry herself & acts mature for her age even when she was at Matt's season. I'm more concern about her getting heart broken because Joe is older & may not over Kendall yet. She seem like a great person inside & out. I Hope they continue to get to know each other & hope things works out.
Just curious, having gotten further into the season do think Joe is over Kendall? Do you think they have more or less of a chance now that you’ve watched more?
People talk about the age difference between Joe and Serena. What about Mari and Kenny, there is a big gap between them as well.
Serena is so cute smiley and positively adorable you can see her injecting Joe with loads of serotonin and endorphins._.. Suddenly his heart is beating so much harder as she breathes life into his 35 year old jaded psyche ; they both have unique characteristics & perspective to balance out each other and make this potentially a really successful relationship
Well put!😁
@@GoldenRule7 thx Donna ; I think we're all going to enjoy that relationship watching Joe and Serena beaming while being infatuated with each other
🤣🤣🤣 I love the subtle digs at old man Joe
He looks and sounds like the love child of Tony Danza and Sly Stallone
Joe has this cute boyish charm and he’s cute. She makes him laugh.
I am really excited to see what will happen between these two. I really like her energy for Joe. He's so quiet and introverted and shes bubbly. Great first episode so far!
THEY MARRIED NOW
I can most certainly see Joe giving up everything to be wherever Serena wants to be..... Looks like he's more smitten with her than he was with Kendall. I can just imagine him like, "Whatever you want, Serena. Lets do that".
"They're like, fully, like... cuddling on a massive pillow" 😂
When I was 20 I dated a 27 year old and I remember thinking that he was so much older and mature. 12 years is a lot but for someone like Joe who cares lol. His goofiness and awkwardness is adorable.
Matt wasn't her person she self eliminate but I hope she finds love bachelor in paradise
What a great pair! The laughter is awesome. Perfect couple. They enjoy each other’s company so much!
i mean the age difference is a little weird so i get the hesitancy. especially since joe already did the whole dating and breakup because of wanting different things in life. they’re like in different life stages
I Totally agree with you 🙂👍
@Massimiliano Giacometti lol
I completely agree. I think he is to old for her
@Massimiliano Giacometti it does. It prolly won't last between them
Joe and Kendall didn’t get engaged!
I have always loved Joe's sense of humor 🥰
I am here for Joe and Serena 🥰❤️💋
@Massimiliano Giacometti sameee sis I need it . She is great at conversations 😭
What will happen when Kendall shows up!?!
@@sylviahaynes5394 I honestly don’t know what Kendall is going to do in paradise maybe she wants to find love again or just to get joe back
@@bryanawilliamson5772 then she has to be willing to leave LA? He lived in LA for a while for her...
@@bryanawilliamson5772 I think she wants Joe back!!! 🤔
People are talking about their age difference but Lauren and Arie had almost the same age gap and they got married and went on to have lots of kids. People need to stop infantilizing Serena. Just last year people were talking about how grown she was and now it's oh she doesn't know any better. she's a grown woman who knows what she wants, and stop projecting what you did when you were 23. Things like " the brain doesn't fully develop until you're 25" is complete bs. I cant believe people are making a big deal of two consenting adults wanting to be together. America is so weird.
How old are they?
@@kate.3110 Lauren is 29 and Arie is 39
@@kate.3110 Lauren and Arie have a 10 year age gap and Serena & Joe have a 12 year age gap. My parents also have a 12 year age gap and they've been married for over 35+ years. I think once you're out of college an age gap should no longer be an issue. It's a relationship between two consenting adults. Guys in Serenas age are not looking for long term relationships, they're still in their early 20s and would not want to settle down until they're in their 30s. Having a guy like Joe whos financially stable, knows what he wants and is actually looking for a committed relationship long-term is what attracted Serena to him ( this is speculations just by their interaction). I do see them going the distance.
Does anyone else feel that the judgement regarding the age difference is only valid for GSJ/Serena and not so much towards Brendan/Pieper even though they have a considerable age-gap as well? I can understand the bias because of GSJ's questionable, controversial energy but if it's an age-gap we are criticising, shouldn't it apply to Brendan/Pieper too?
You should remember that it is case by case. Plenty of men seek out younger women in order to be in control. That control may be from different aspects (mental,financial, you name it). And often these women don't even realize as ''he is older and more stable''. Lauren and Arie had already both lived and knew what they want. Arie didn't seek her out. And I think it's just as fine here as neither doesn't seek the other out on purpose due to some personal issues. They clicked naturally. They could be just in different points and it may not be even about commitment. Or it could work just fine. BUT with that being said, your mindset is pretty dangerious. Two years is not the same as 12. And it's creepely interesting to see what older party sees in much younger partner who has barely lived as an adult.
Of course they have to drop the Kendall Bomb in later in the show. Predictable move. Hope they can survive it.
they're so cute! it feels so genuine.
i think distance will be a bigger factor than age though. joe is never leaving chicago 😂
UGH I hope they make it through! They are cute together😭
I hope so too but I’m not so sure since we are gonna see Kendall come in later . Wonder what will happen there
When I was 22 I dated a 38 year old. Age is just a number if the connection is there it’s there. Age won’t stop it. I like them together.
The connection is one thing but in the long term does it work? Being in different stages of life is a big thing too and what you value is important.
That's kinda a huge gap. Don't know what a 38 year old man would have in common with someone so much younger. Generally it's cos they're emotionally immature that's why they go for younger women.
Dated but did you marry? Huge difference
@@hoangtran2292 If you have both clearly communicated what you want ie marriage, kids, how to raise a family, where to live, career choice etc and if those things are the same it does work.
@@Crystalbomb321 A lot, we had a similar background and even though it was at different times the values and morals and things he held to a high standard were the same for me.
I’m conflicted. I loved him and Kendall and I feel like it was less mutual than he would have us believe. But also, Serena is sweet and they are cute together.
They both individually talked about neither of them being willing to move so 🤷♀️
Kendall also said it was the ultimatum that was big for her. They both seemed sad and I really liked them together, too.
@@franziskamaria5157 That’s a fair reason to breakup. But from the spoilers (I won’t say) it just sounds like Joe was the one to make the final cut in the relationship, or maybe he was just able to move on more easily. In my personal experience ‘mutual’ breakups are never 50/50. One of the two always pushes for the breakup a bit more than the other. Or in some cases one wants to break it off so they start doing things that will push the other person away until eventually they come to a point where they agree its not working. But one person has to initiate the conversation that leads to the breakup and make that final cut. I’ve been on both sides.
@@LoveLaw for sure. It was definitely a little more on Joes part since he moved back to Chicago after moving in together with Kendall, but they broke up early last year and that’s enough time to be ready and open for a new relationship, so I don’t agree with some people who say he is still hung up on her. I know about the spoilers and hope they are still true after everything airs out.
@@franziskamaria5157 I have a feeling that Kendall and him talk as friends when she comes back. At this point they have been apart for awhile. For the people saying he's not over her, though. I mean, the way he talks about her is red flaggish. And tries really hard not to cry and even talking to Serena, reminding him of Kendall. It does concern me for Serena. It doesn't mean it won't work out, it could be the best relationship ever (I don't know, at all). But, starting a relationship with someone when he's mourning the loss of his past relationship (no matter how much time has passed), is not the surest start. I watched when him and Kendall got together and it was so mutual. I don't love the power dynamic between them. But this is just day 1. If he says he loves her later, I'm sure the relationship develops a lot and fast. I also think Kendall was blindsided when they split. It may have ended up "mutual", but it seems like it was a surprise to both parties (although it doesn't sound like there was a 'bad guy').
35 years old on the bachelor equals: jaded, grizzled, broken, and edging towards retirement.
Okay joe is so much more attractive here and I love them together. Both so genuine
Him constantly comparing her to Kendall idk just doesn’t bode well for a healthy start!!! This age difference is also…. We shall see
they won't last
Where has he constantly compared her to Kendall? He said his first conversation with her reminded him of Kendall. That's all.
I don't think he was comparing serena to kendall, i think he was identifying his in love or special feelings in the past or remembering the last time he felt that way which was with kendall, i think it was an observation, but yes, i think his emotional reaction tells me that he has unhealed wounds from his relationship with kendall & then to suddenly flip & decide to stay after 1 conversation with serena, i find it questionable
Imagine yourself at 23. Would you be comfortable dating a 35 year old? I used to think 35 year olds were old
Me being 21 lol idk can’t wrap my mind around that I’m too immature 🤣🤣
I am 23 I think I’d push to 30 but more is a lot
Don’t judge a book by its cover I was 22 and I have dated guys that age and guys my own age. One isn’t more mature than the other it really comes down to the people you meet. Theres nothing wrong with that. Everyone has their own preferences.
@J Kinng that’s not true I’ve dated 30+ year olds who are still really immature and don’t want anything serious and I was like in my early 20s. I never partied even in college. Everyone is different. Don’t judge.
I used to think 28 was old at 23 lol.
I am here for this 😍 let's go!! I've been hearing a lot about them so I want to see how they will connect deeper and further on the island 🏝💯
@Massimiliano Giacometti ok I will watch it and see what couples I like so far. I only seen this clip on UA-cam cause I missed the premiere 😩
@Massimiliano Giacometti lol we'll catch it next time 😆😂
I am liking these two!
Serena is an impressive young lady, she is very mature and wise for her age. She sounds older.
for now but in the future she won't be the same person she is currently
Is it just me, or does Joe look and act 23 anyway? :o
Look? I'm not sure 🤭 but he sure does act like it
Serena acts 35. They should swap ages. Lol. She’s pretty mature tbh
@@coolsaint6044 for her age but she won't be the same person in the future
Yes and Serena acts more mature.
They are the cutest thing ever 😍
Their makeout session was sooo pure and cutee
Kendall and Joe were my favorite couple. Still not over them
I do have to say it was reassuring to hear him speak about BIP as a success before. And to miss Kendall and think of her. Not that I'm glad that he was sad. But it did seem almost respectful. I respect each of them in what they need to do. But yah, I loved them together.
He's 35?! What the heck, I didn't know that.
And Wells is two years older and looks younger than Joe.
@@coolsaint6044 He looks older than 35 though. Kenny is 40 and looks a decade younger than Joe.
@@Jess-hf9me maybe Joe was a smoker? Smoking ages people really bad!
I love them as a couple. He need to clear his head, of the heart ache, of his past. Make the way clear, to get to know her. He need new memories, and I think that she can give them to him. ❤️
Aww joe and Serena I actually am here for it and so what the age difference you could see they don’t care I’m here for it
I love joe and Serena. They are so cute and adorable 🥰. I seriously hope that they stay together.
I personally won't go for a guy as much as 12years older but I've seen it work for others
My brother-in-law is 12 years older then his wife, they are really good together, 5 children together. 💚
Joe, Joe, you are soooo cute, I hope he finds a keeper....if not a strong love would be great....Chi Town....
And now they’re married EEEEEEEP so smiley
These 2 are the cutest!
35 is so young though 🥺🥺
Not for this...
They’re in too complete different life stages. What can they have in common besides physical attraction?
Not if ur 23 😅
@@thequeen3834 ikr. Wonder what Alex Trebek was thinking at age 50 marrying a 27 yr old 🙄🙄
@@kjbennie9245 Well I'm going to guess this is what she was thinking🤑
the brendan and ivan bromance
I’m here for this
I love them together however, if his last relationship ended because neither wanted to move to a different state… try different countries 🥴
I just don't see them together in the long run but this was a cute scene.
I love them!!!!
Serena’s naturally beautiful, without all that makeup, unlike the other’s. ❤️
You know you can compliment one woman without bringing others down right?
@@brieb4317 If you didn’t do as I said;. You should know, I wasn’t talking about you. If you didn’t send that comment, to the one’s that I were talking about, “then close your pie hole”. 👎
Now! I said what I saw. Serena, didn’t have a lot of makeup. Someone said she wasn’t the most attractive one. That.’s when I stepped in. Stop trying to get likes, and show some love . ❤️✌🏽
This seems more like a crush. It's always iffy being close to people right off the bat. But then again who knows! Maybe they are each other's person.
I usually think this but if u pay close attention to the music in the background when they kiss, they only ever play music like that if it's a solid couple that goes pretty far.And by the previews, I'm going to assume they go really far + i heard rumors that they're engaged
Serena is very mature for a 23 year old
Every single guy in his 30s and 40s choosing girls in their early 20s. Seen it all before. Funny how I don’t see that for single women in their 30s and 40s.
there's a few women in their 30s on that season but it's rare to see anyone over 35 on paradise since it's only happened a few times
@@mitchellmartinsky2299 we will have to see how many women in their 30s date men in their early 20s this season. Haha.
@@magnisky if only we could see that but it's rare period to see an age gap that's more than 5 years on paradise
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@@RW-ir2bq yep the one and only. Haha.
Joe's robbin the cradle
That’s how 35 year olds do it 😂😂😂😂
prefer Ivan and Serena or Ivan and Jessenia but haven't seen either of them interact
@J Kinng me neither, i don't remember their introduction
Everyone wanna see Joe win
I hope they last. I ship them
The unlikely couple lol. Who knew 🤷🏽♀️
LOVE this duo!!!!!!
I REALLY hope that this first season back EVERYONE becomes & STAYS a couple & gets married ;)
I read a spoiler …I DONT think it’s true what it says buuuutttt for some relationships…I love it lol
@@cindy_rodriguez As long as Serena & Abigail find love........ I couldn't care less about the other couples
They're cute tho
She totally busting his balls. She is a lot more relaxed with him. So cute!
I hated Joe and Kendall together. She ended up with Joe by default and lets be honest Kendall has the personality of a rock. She doesnt deserve joe
I can see them together. Lol they're both a little quirky
Do they really want the same things at this point in their lives.
I would definitely marry her
Joe looks like a great kisser woooooh. I am in Chicago,Joe!!! Come get me
Joe slow down Serena gonna break your heart
not feeling them at all. the age difference and relocation will probably become a hurdle if they stay 2gether. I was totally seeing her with maybe ivan or demar. but u never know.
In terms of facial features she kinda resembles his last ex (Kendall)
They kind of act a like too lol
And speak like each other; I find their voice to be really similar
Agreed. He definitely has a type lol
I think I'm mostly bothered by the way she reacts to his age. Maybe she's not bothered by it but teasing him...I dated a guy twelve years older than me and he often brought up our age difference and I didn't. I have had friends a lot older than me who didn't talk down to me or bring it up as much as he did. Joe really needs a certain type of person and I dunno if she's it
12 years 😳
@alice that’s quite an age gap
23??
he is cute
Why I still want him to be with Kendall! ! 😔😔😔
Joe is the way to go if she’s looking for serious long term relationship. The other guys that are younger are probably not that ready.
and she is ?
I love Serena she's my faver.
She just said he’s in a whole different stage of life so… I’m confused
she has many qualtity as kendell
I don't see it
Awwwwwww
Serena is gorgeous, watch Joe break her heart. BIP couples has a 1 out 10 chance of lasting. Good luck Serena those dudes not loyal.
How is he insecure he’s hot lol
iduno if him and his ex broke up cuz of logistics how is he going to work out with a 23 year old at a completely different stage in life
She said on Matt's season that she likes to take the rship really slow.. if she gets engaged at the end of paradise, I'm gonna be surprised
Paradise is different to the Bachelor though. They spend 24/7 together on that beach. The Bachelor U have heard contestants say that your lucky to spend 30 hours total together and that's if your the person they pick.
It’s weird because Serena looks at least 30 to me. Can’t believe she’s 23.
Serena is back again I wouldn't take her serious.
Didn’t expect Serena to be a hot commodity with so many of the guys this season lol...
What does that mean? Genuinely asking lol
@@baerares2743 She’s not the most attractive girl there lolll
@@michaelacaleb7919 ??? then who is ???
@@-vanny-5445 I could name like 6 other girls who I would’ve guessed would be the most popular lol, just not her
@@michaelacaleb7919 yes she is
23/35 Nope, I'll be on to the next hottie if i was her. (◔‿◔)
Me smiling this whole video... WE STAN Kendall haters.
I wish he wouldnt have brought his baggage to the island..Kendal is the past let go, move on.
She has the same voice as kendall .. 😅 i like them 😍
The age difference worries me a bit but they are so beautiful together I hope it works.
Serena’s 23?!??
I find it to be so much more respectable when a man of his age can acknowledge the age difference and step away. 23 is a very young woman. He can find her attractive and cool and all that and still say- you’re just too young. but instead he’s smiling all goofy and it’s grossing me out for real…
But they’re two consenting adults lol
He’s too old for her.