Are Ronald Acuna Jr Cards Doomed?

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  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
  • Ronald Acuna Jr tore his ACL on Sunday afternoon. Acuna also tore his ACL in 2021 in the opposite knee. Acuna was able to bounce back and win the 2023 NL MVP and be an All-Star. In this video the Spitballin' team shares their thoughts on Acunas injury and if we think that he can return to his MVP form like he did after his first injury. We also discuss if Acuna's cards will have hobby relevance and value in the short and long term

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  • @dylanl3845
    @dylanl3845 2 місяці тому +6

    I collect vintage and modern. It’s awesome collecting players from the current era that you can watch in person, on your fantasy team, it gives you an extra reason to root for them. What’s fun about vintage is being a baseball historian, reading up on players from 50-100 years ago and seeing how they changed baseball forever makes it fun collecting those players

    • @fliplife67
      @fliplife67 2 місяці тому +2

      For Ron Jr when he does come back healthy he might not be able to steal bases but he is still capable of 30 plus homer’s in a season so maybe DH would be a safe option.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      Jeff here: Love this perspective, I may give it a shot. Thanks for commenting!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +3

      Chris here - thanks for sharing, Dylan. We may beach out a bit into vintage some time
      Soon.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      @@fliplife67 Chris here - he definitely has the bat to do that, but I don’t know if he’ll be ok with it. We shall see what kind of player he is when he returns.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @ianmelody4767
    @ianmelody4767 2 місяці тому +2

    As a fan of the Braves and just getting back into collecting after 25 yrs, I was SUPER stoked to pull a mini Acuna jr to 100 from my first blaster box. 😢 what a shame

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - it’s an absolute gut punch. Some
      Guys just have no luck at all!
      Hopefully the team can pull together an maybe even make a Cinderella run in October

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Great pull!

    • @ianmelody4767
      @ianmelody4767 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin yeah, his RC too from '18 topps heritage. I sure hope he can make a comeback

    • @ianmelody4767
      @ianmelody4767 2 місяці тому +1

      First blaster box of any kind in my life. At least I pulled Soto's base from it too

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      @@ianmelody4767 could’ve been A LOT worse!! Haha

  • @fishepa
    @fishepa 2 місяці тому +6

    From an investment perspective, VOO has never torn an ACL and never lets me down.

  • @thekeithy4999
    @thekeithy4999 2 місяці тому +3

    Sad topic, but great content and conversation fellas. Appreciate you guys!

  • @pk3739
    @pk3739 Місяць тому +2

    Acuna prices will be fine, he is a hobby darling and doesn’t need all the nerd stats. Kyle Tucker is a great example of why stats don’t always matter in the hobby for many players. Gotta have that “x” factor and acuna has it for people.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  Місяць тому

      Chris here - I love the Kyle tucker example. Spot on!

  • @davidthecardcollector
    @davidthecardcollector 2 місяці тому +7

    I don't remember Ricky Henderson ever tearing his ACL. What are these players doing now days with all the injuries. Nolan Ryan pitched 100 mph 27 seasons with no Tommy John surgeries.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, it’s crazy. Maybe just too much year-round hyperfocus on training? It really sucks.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +2

      Chris here - this is a great question. It makes you wonder. Will we ever get an actual explanation? I don’t know.
      Thanks for commenting. It’s really curious to think about. Especially in this age of better fitness and nutritional information.

    • @willzsportscards
      @willzsportscards 2 місяці тому +2

      Also...Ricky (and Kareem) were both early with the whole stretching/yoga craze. Not a coincidence they played their respective sports into their 40s. It think a lot of athletes in their mid/late 20s don't take this seriously...they think they're tendons/ligaments etc are still like a childs..and they're clearly not.

    • @daniellarsen889
      @daniellarsen889 2 місяці тому +1

      I think they spend too much time in the gym trying to get ripped.

    • @B0bDylAnFan82
      @B0bDylAnFan82 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@willzsportscards great point. Ichiro was really big on yoga and stretching as well. Corey Seager has been on 🔥 this last 2 weeks with 7 HRs in 7 games. I saw him do pregame warm ups before Ranger games, and his focus was on stretching and yoga poses. I think longevity and speed is more important than power for a career.

  • @JenniferMedina-bg1zb
    @JenniferMedina-bg1zb 2 місяці тому +3

    I’ve bought 3 high end Acuna rookie cards in the past day from people who are panicking and having fire sales. Paid about 50% what they were selling for just a month ago.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      Jeff here: Nice! I must confess I’ve sold a couple, though not for a 50% discount. Yet!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - I love the play at 50%. Jeff and I have moved a couple of our Acunas. Not selling all, but thinning the herd for sure.
      What have you picked up?

    • @JenniferMedina-bg1zb
      @JenniferMedina-bg1zb 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards Bowman chrome 1st and Topps chrome RC

  • @johnrosans9429
    @johnrosans9429 2 місяці тому +5

    Though their games and positions are vastly different, I think Acuna’s future might be akin to Don Mattingly, who was a beloved Yankee, played for no other team, did some absurd things offensively for a couple years in his mid-20s, then saw a big drop in performance beginning in his age 27 season. There were still gold gloves and a couple all-star appearances, but it was never the same. And a sure-fire HOF career ended with a career WAR in the low 40s and forever talks of what might have been. And, yet, Mattingly rookies are still very collectible. He holds a soft spot in the hearts of many.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Jeff here: as a huge Mattingly fan growing up, this comparison seems apt. Hopeful for more from Acuna, but two repaired knees is tough!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - I actually think this comparison could be very appropriate. Acuna will always be popular with Atlanta fans and card collectors because of the way he played the game and absolutely amazing 2023 season he gave us.
      Maybe he’ll have some more magic for us.

  • @JohnNP3
    @JohnNP3 2 місяці тому +2

    Tough topic to talk about. As far as what to do with his cards, there’s no right answer for everyone. Ask yourself why you bought the card to begin with. That may help guide you on what to do next.
    I completely agree with what was said towards the end-this is making me reevaluate how I spend hobby dollars. Becoming a vintage collector isn’t appealing to me, but maybe I need to take a somewhat more conservative approach to current players.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Jeff here: thanks for the thoughtful comment. I'm right there with you on re-evaluation of my spending on current players.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - hey Jon, yeah I admit I’ve been gunshy on a couple cards I was excited to bid on since his injury.
      Definitely going to be more cautious and actually will probably sell more non-Acuna cards this year because of this.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @JasonBrown974
    @JasonBrown974 2 місяці тому +5

    OMG I love this show so much but seriously Scott it's not expessially is ESPECIALLY lol I hate so much when people pronounce it wrong. Seriously though you guys are awesome!!!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +3

      I am sorry, I was born in Idaho. I probably pronounce a few words differently because of it. I will work on it for the next episode 🙌

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      Thanks for the support! 💪🏼

    • @forpetesake20
      @forpetesake20 2 місяці тому +2

      its just makes it more esciting 😂

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      @@forpetesake20 😂😂😂

  • @craigbrown7880
    @craigbrown7880 2 місяці тому +2

    Sorry Chris such a bummer.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      It’s a gut lunch for sure. I love Acuna. Pains me and (almost) all baseball fans to lose him again.

  • @B0bDylAnFan82
    @B0bDylAnFan82 2 місяці тому +3

    Could Acuna become the next Eric Davis? People forget Eric Davis was putting up crazy stats like Acuna in the 80s, but could never keep healthy.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Jeff here: Chris made that comp when we did our Live on the Blabbin’ ‘Bout Slabbin’ channel the night Acuña got hurt. Seems appropriate right now. Hopefully Ronnie can come back stronger than David did from his injuries. Thanks for commenting!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - I hope not

  • @Fudgetheglobalists
    @Fudgetheglobalists 2 місяці тому +4

    “The penny wise of our group” bro chris never change 🤣🤣

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂 oh, I’m too old to change now

  • @jeffjones8866
    @jeffjones8866 2 місяці тому +3

    Mike Trouts cards have dropped a lot since his injury more than 20% in most cases for his high end cards. So I would guess Ronald Acuna cards might drop even more than that.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - sadly, I’ve got to agree with this and Acuna only had one MVP so far, not three.

  • @davidheatwole6634
    @davidheatwole6634 2 місяці тому +1

    People collect Yordan Alvarez and he has been a DH for his entire career with two bad knees. Can’t remember if he had the ACL repairs or not. People already writing off Acuna’s career is insane.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - to be fair, Yordan is nothing in the hobby compared to Acuna. And I like Yordan a lot! I was expecting 2024 to be the huge breakout season we’ve been waiting for. Just hasn’t gotten going yet.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Two homers for Yordan today, maybe he's breaking out of it!

  • @ianmelody4767
    @ianmelody4767 2 місяці тому +2

    Ronald acuna jr topps heritage rc mini up for auction on ebay

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - thanks for sharing. I’m not a fan of minis but I bet it’s a cool looking card

  • @davidwilsing1545
    @davidwilsing1545 2 місяці тому +1

    Acuna is this generations Eric Davis.

  • @willzsportscards
    @willzsportscards 2 місяці тому +3

    Great stuff guys. ACL is a small ligament. You can have an isolated ACL tear that doesn't hurt...at all. Or you can tear the ACL, have a big meniscal tear, torque injury with bone bruises and a ton of blood in the joint ...yaddah yaddah... and those hurt like hell. I found it silly to hear the media quote an athlete assessing their own injury. Chris--off top of my head, two guys I remember who came back successfully..in football...Frank Gore (same knee X 2) and Terry Allen (possibly different knees?) If someone can come back as a RB, it certainly is in play for Acuna.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the details and success references!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - it’s definitely possible. I just don’t know if he’ll be the same kind of player. Hopefully his power will return at least!
      Thanks for watching and for the thoughtful comment, Will!

  • @mofny
    @mofny 2 місяці тому +5

    I love the 2019 RC class.
    Luis Arraez
    Austin Riley
    Will Smith
    Kyle Tucker
    Corbin Burnes
    Most are pretty affordable and have had great careers so far.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +3

      Will Tucker ever get any hobby respect/love!?

    • @forpetesake20
      @forpetesake20 2 місяці тому +2

      your list was missing my boy mister pete alonso, lol

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - Great list and you’re right, they still sell under Guerrero.
      Looks like your forgot Alonso!

    • @forpetesake20
      @forpetesake20 2 місяці тому

      @SpitballinCards he was t boned, rolled his truck and still didnt miss a preaeason game, lol

    • @baseballbrownie2317
      @baseballbrownie2317 2 місяці тому +1

      Jose Ramirez should also be on this List.

  • @frankiefortch
    @frankiefortch 2 місяці тому +5

    this should be a lesson for ALL collectors of any level. do NOT put too many eggs in one basket, and do NOT invest in a player or card with more money than you would care to lose.
    after all, we all started this hobby for the love of it. don't F it up by overinvesting in one player or team

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Absolute truth 💪🏼

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - this is the truth and a very great piece of advice. Problem is that like 50% or more of the hobby is player collectors.
      We collect who we like to watch play. It’s a dangerous combo sometimes.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @tonyconte1933
      @tonyconte1933 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards Vintage is the way to go. Always has been.

  • @JeffreyBeckerPhotographs
    @JeffreyBeckerPhotographs 2 місяці тому +2

    I should just be a guest speaker on the show sometime!! :) My opinion as to why Acuna’s prices were stagnant during his MVP 2023 season were due to 1 big factor and 1 small one. In 2023 MLB had two star players actually more exciting than Acuna. 1) Ohtani’s hobby love during the summer of 2023 was like a vacuum for all the hobby money. Ohtani’s market value dominated baseball for months - overshadowing Acuna’s amazing season. At the National in 2023, it was all Ohtani, and almost nothing for Acuna. 2) Elly De La Cruz, to a far lesser extent, also became more exciting to watch (and collect) than Acuna. So, I believe Acuna’s 2023 prices remained static due to Ohtani’s market absolutely dominating the money in the hobby, and then Elly came into the league with very exciting hype and also overshadowed Acuna.

    • @Philmington
      @Philmington 2 місяці тому +2

      Interesting theory to ponder. Elly seemed to fade from the spotlight around mid-late August with his struggles.
      Btw Chris now has my old microphone 🎤

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - everybody in the baseball world plays in Ohtani’s shadow. Especially while he was pitching last year.
      Elly over shadowing Acuna? Idk. 40/70 was historic.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Jeff here: There was Elly-mania for awhile, but I feel that faded down the stretch when the 40/70 was heating up.

  • @BatoMijac
    @BatoMijac 2 місяці тому +4

    Hi Guys. Good topic here. Modern Cards like Acuna AT the high "baked in" values that they have are way too risky. Prices of Ronald Acuna Jr are based on him being a Hall of Famer and Playing for 15 to 20 years. Not to Mention Way too many Population cards. Go for older Vintage cards from the 1960's or 1970's of Hall of Fame Baseball players that may be underpriced. Cheers.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Jeff here: hard to argue with anything here. As someone who isn’t a fan of vintage cards, preferring cards of players I can watch right now, there is no denying that in many ways vintage is a safer bet. But, just like all cards, it still is a “bet”

    • @Bravetrain13
      @Bravetrain13 2 місяці тому

      Vintage is safer because they won’t get injured but I don’t think it’s safer long term compared to guys like Soto and Ohtani IF they don’t get injured. I worry about how bad the pop reports are getting with a lot of vintage. Modern guys have parallels and SSP’s

  • @LeoMcGregor1
    @LeoMcGregor1 2 місяці тому +5

    Let's put in perspective of Aaron Judge rookie autos from the injury. It seems incredibly difficult for prices to reach it's peak. I'd assume Judge would need to put up 60 plus homers and Acuna to go 40 70 to potentially touch the numbers it peaked at.

  • @daniellarsen889
    @daniellarsen889 2 місяці тому +1

    2nd major knee injury.... I'm a Twins fan and seeing Buxton deal with his knees, sell all your Acuna's. He will be a shell of his former self and be on a 120 game per season availability.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Man, I hope not!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - glass half empty approach here, but honestly as an Acuna card holder it’s the way we HAVE to look at it.
      Thanks for watching

  • @Moon3PO
    @Moon3PO 2 місяці тому +2

    I talked about his cards and his stats in a video I made. Based on his numbers, he is lower in terms of WAR by age compared to some HOFs and even Betts.
    I will keep an eye out for some his cards and pick up a few if the price is right

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Yeah for whatever reason WAR was never his oath to the HOF. His path was based on excitement and power.
      Not sure it’s still there. We’ll have to wait and see.

  • @williamskinner4833
    @williamskinner4833 2 місяці тому +3

    Call me crazy but i think Kelenic should be lead off hitter. He has the talent just needs the opportunity

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Jeff here: would live him to get 300 at bats there this season!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      I’d give him a shot there against RH pitching.
      Braves need him to step up now.

  • @forpetesake20
    @forpetesake20 2 місяці тому +2

    as a met fan thats been through a lot i want to say to chirs that i love you brother and things will get better. you have family and friemds that all care about you very much. dont do anything drastic. time heals all pain. its rough to see you going on tour with the bad news, lol.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      Jeff here: “Going on tour…” 😂

    • @forpetesake20
      @forpetesake20 2 місяці тому +1

      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin i missed the emergency episode of blabbin live but i did get to watch it. what channel will chris be on next, lol.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      @@forpetesake20 ESPN likely 🤩🤣

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      @@forpetesake20 hey man, it felt therapeutic to express the sadness and commiserate with my fellow fans.
      Still struggling to get to acceptance.

  • @tubenachos
    @tubenachos 2 місяці тому +5

    Acuña is a DH forever and he absolutely has to be Ortiz v2.0 for his HOF chances

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      Jeff here: this is where I’m at too, Tube. Maybe a few more years in the field (hopefully left) and then 8-10 years of mashing like Papi.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - yeah sad to have to admit this, but it’s absolutely right.

  • @rage508cardsngrails
    @rage508cardsngrails 2 місяці тому +2

    Adrian Peterson came back after 2 acl an mcl tears in both knees an broke his career high an rushed for 2k yards! An was 1 of only a few other players to do so (stem cells) an modern medicine is godtier so have hope 💪🏻💯🙏🏻

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - did he tear BOTH ACL’s during his career?
      I remember his comeback in 2012 (around there) was amazing.

  • @lescamp79
    @lescamp79 2 місяці тому +6

    holding too long is a risk all collectors run into..I have some really sweet acuna's that is looking like I'm going to have to take a loss, which is insane considering he's coming off his MVP season..it sucks...

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Same. Right there with you, buddy. It’s hard to *NOT* hold too long when you are a fan and collector 😢

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - it’s bad enough to see any day go down with serious injury, but when it’s a guy on your team that you love to watch and collect it’s almost too much.

  • @dsphillips16
    @dsphillips16 2 місяці тому +3

    Great show fellas

  • @ryanra44
    @ryanra44 2 місяці тому +2

    It sucks that MLB has so many issues keeping their superstars healthy. Are these guys pushing their bodies too far these days with these max effort swings, runnings, and pitching?
    I’ve already moved a couple of Acuna’s after the injury. I will likely keep a few but move a decent chunk of my Acuna’s unfortunately.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - unfortunately Ryan, I’ve done the same. It hurts. I want these cards in my PC long term, but I can’t handle watching them drop and drop in value.
      What’s causing these injuries? Great question. Hopefully teams can figure it out.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for commenting, right there with you ☹️

  • @erichjenson7278
    @erichjenson7278 2 місяці тому +3

    Some good points made. Looking at BB Reference and making comparisons, I just don’t see Acuna reaching the numbers once possible. Especially as you guys mentioned his best years have been basically squandered due to injuries and Covid. Unfortunately, what is acuna without the stolen bases and accumulated runs at full reckless speed? Sell and buy again at a later date would probably be advised.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Jeff here: Thanks for watching and commenting. Think I’m right there with you, selling most and buying back later.

    • @erichjenson7278
      @erichjenson7278 2 місяці тому

      @@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbinthanks for producing these videos, real entertaining format and well done.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - sad but probably true.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @daniellarsen889
    @daniellarsen889 2 місяці тому +2

    Braves won there last World Series without Acuna and now they have Harris.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - this is true, but right now Harris can’t hit at all. Thankfully his defense is still spectacular. All the non-ozuna bats have been asleep. Time to WAKE UP.

  • @johnnylv5452
    @johnnylv5452 2 місяці тому +1

    Sell and I’m buying!!! Cards that I’m looking for at half price 😎👌 But, I wish for a healthy recovery 🙏💪🏽 we need fun baseball players like him.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      I’m not ready to sell at half price yet, but seems like a great buying point!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - there will definitely be some good Acuna deals out there. 50% seems like a big discount but by January, who knows?

  • @Kicks_Clothing
    @Kicks_Clothing 2 місяці тому +3

    Always remember, Charizard won't ever pull his ACL

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Very true. And he’s won’t get in trouble legally either

    • @Kicks_Clothing
      @Kicks_Clothing 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards

  • @jorgescards18
    @jorgescards18 2 місяці тому +2

    I was not collecting baseball cards whenever Tatis got hit with the suspension but I can’t imagine the feeling in peoples stomachs when they opened Twitter and saw him get suspended for 80 games

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - Jorge it was a hobby wide gut punch. Blowout forums was filled with anger and denial. So much value just evaporating into thin air.
      Same thing happened last year when the Wander news started to trickle in.

  • @simondaughtry4619
    @simondaughtry4619 2 місяці тому +7

    Since Tatis' steroid bust ...his slugging is down 150 points...... so not only are steroids a stigma for collectors but his performance has clearly been hindered by not having the steroid confidence boost mentally and physically. He isnt the same guy clean as we saw lighting MLB on fire 3 years ago. BTW I love Scotty's pile on the Acuna injury update with the fact he got caught stealing during the injury lol... in fact that's really why I decided to sell my Acuna collection.. not the injury but the lowering fangraphs score is just a killer.. I cant have my collection associated with that kind of a frivolous, low standard......I love ya Scotty Buttons.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +2

      Simon - another outstanding comment, thanks for watching! 😂

    • @Ryan-yh3zw
      @Ryan-yh3zw 2 місяці тому +5

      Tatis also had wrist and shoulder surgery so I don't think it's fair to solely blame the weak steroid he was taking during rehab

    • @popsmoke99
      @popsmoke99 2 місяці тому +3

      Buttons his dog? lol....that's right.

    • @nickdrago7390
      @nickdrago7390 2 місяці тому +1

      Tatis has always been skinny in his upper body but now he is also skinny in his lower half. If you go back and watch video of him in 2021 look at the size difference in his glutes and legs.

    • @tubenachos
      @tubenachos 2 місяці тому +1

      His approach to the plate is much different too than 2019. A more open stance and less load. Agree though 30/20 is probably Tatis ceiling

  • @jacobfain6504
    @jacobfain6504 2 місяці тому +2

    Safest money was to always invest in the GOATS. But as Jeff said, it's so fun to collect your current favorite players in the game today. Feel bad for Acuña collectors and Braves fans! He's such a stud. Injuries suck!

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Jeff here: as I said on the video, I definitely need to rethink some of my all-current-players strategy. Thanks for watching!

    • @jacobfain6504
      @jacobfain6504 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin Easier said than done, Jeff! Lol

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      @@jacobfain6504 no doubt! 🤣

  • @stevenbetge6538
    @stevenbetge6538 2 місяці тому +2

    I question the long-term value of most modern players. Too many cards, too many similar talented players to divide collectors money.
    I think Harper will hold more long-term value than most modern players

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - steve, I’m right there with you. I love Harper as a player. Just don’t like watching him vs the Braves.
      And yes, there are simply too many cards right now. Too many different rookies, too many paralles, and too many autos.
      Spot on.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Too many cards is right, you definitely have to be discerning with current players.

  • @tedjerdee1028
    @tedjerdee1028 2 місяці тому +5

    Hot take, but I think he is still on a HOF track. At 26, he can easily get 500 hr and 3k hits assuming he stays healthy. With 25 WAR, he could easily get to 40 WAR by age 30 no problem. IDK if his cards will be a great investment, but he for sure can still be an all time great

    • @duanetomka6559
      @duanetomka6559 2 місяці тому +2

      Totally agree. My gage is 250 HRs by age 30 and you are a good path for 500 with a healthy late stage of your career.

    • @BringingTheHeat-VBC
      @BringingTheHeat-VBC 2 місяці тому +1

      so could trout and wandering franklin. better go pump Mario Soto and T-Lance and T-Law and anyone else with a dumb s** nickname. Try to dollar cost avg into the S & P 500 for your investments skip.

    • @tedjerdee1028
      @tedjerdee1028 2 місяці тому +1

      @@BringingTheHeat-VBC I mean Trout is already a first ballot HOFer and Wander is a Pedo so... yeah. I don't buy cards as investments as that would be dumb. I just follow baseball and I view cards as an alternative to sports betting which again, not in it to make money. The $100 cards I buy will not affect my financial well being

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      There definitely is a path for him to get to the Hall of Fame, but he will need a lot of luck and health on his side. But, as mentioned, there are just as many cautionary tales. So, be careful of looking at any cards (especially Acuña, per this discussion) as any sort of “investment”

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      @@BringingTheHeat-VBC A good reminder that “investments” are found in much better places than cardboard of current athletes.

  • @AlanForest
    @AlanForest 2 місяці тому +2

    Scottie I made a comment on your video “The reason why you shouldn’t buy Ronald Acuna rookie cards” a few months based on my evaluation of him

  • @tjboyd17
    @tjboyd17 2 місяці тому +2

    Shout of to my GF hailey for listening to my depressive talk after ronald's injury. As a Braves longtime fan, Ronnie been my favorite player since watching videos of him as a prospect. I just really hate that some athletes can't ever hit their full potential due to "being too athletic for their own body." Such a shame man. Last year was magical for him and I can't imagine going through something like that not once but twice. I also work in physical therapy and tbh the physical part with ACLs or any ligament damage isn't the problem during rehab (if surgery goes well), It's all mental once you're cleared for sports again. When do you start to trust that leg again, or do you ever trust it long term? Thats what scares me long term. Will we ever see him be the ronnie of his MVP type season again, probably not. I don't wanna be all negative so the only optimistic thing I could say is that maybe he will shock the world and come back and prove me and everyone else wrong. He did it once but idk if he can again as he ages. A Braves 2025 or 26 World Series with ronnie being MVP would make for a killer 30 for 30 though.🤣

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the insights!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - that’s a 30 for 30 I’d watch on repeat!
      Hopefully he can come
      Back and just focus on hitting and let the base stealing go. Not worth the risk anymore.
      Thanks for watching and props to Hailey for listening!

  • @barfyman-dm6zx
    @barfyman-dm6zx 2 місяці тому +2

    If Acuna had a third knee he'd probably tear that one too

  • @rockiesinoctober
    @rockiesinoctober 2 місяці тому +1

    Scott, please don't hate Ronald Acuña Jr.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      tell him, Lance!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      This is a false narrative pushed by big media (AKA Chris).

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      I don’t know, Scott was basically the Bill Hader impression of Keith Morrison during this show.
      “Tell me how this makes you feel!”

  • @therookiecardking
    @therookiecardking 2 місяці тому +3

    Thoughts in comment section are way too complicated on this. He has yet to play a full season and now, at 26 has two bad knees. His two monster seasons are 4 years apart, not to mention he’s not a disciplined hitter, an average at best fielder, and his war is avg at 5.8. He is unfortunately toast in the sport and in the hobby. Any other assessment is just adult men convincing themselves that their “investment” in him is still justified, but in their alone time, they know they are screwed.
    The sweet spot for “investing” in any player, any sport is and always has been after roughly 5 years of consistent solid production.
    Cris Carter said it best “Regardless of athletic talent, it is impossible to be great if you are never available.”

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      "The best ability is availability."

    • @BaseHeadSports
      @BaseHeadSports 2 місяці тому

      So you already know he is done. I'm Not the biggest Acuna Jr.....but dude this is baseball. Bad knees may limit his speed, but guy can hit, he is too disciplined!!!.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - I agree with most of your first paragraph, but I can’t say that he’s completely done.
      But his ticket to the inner circle of greatness is most certainly gone.

  • @willzsportscards
    @willzsportscards 2 місяці тому +3

    "The Pennywise of our group" 😅😅😆😆

  • @rookiedog1
    @rookiedog1 2 місяці тому +3

    When Acuna comes back next year and he will have only played 2 full seasons. Being able to get to Hall of Fame is not at all likely. I am a huge braves collector and my PC's value just took a huge hit. Depressing times.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Sorry man, I feel your pain. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - yeah man, what a shitty weekend. It really hurts. Sucks for the the Braves, their fans, their collectors, and especially for Acuna himself. We know how much he loves the game of baseball. And it just keeps hurting him.
      Heartbreaking

    • @rookiedog1
      @rookiedog1 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards Only silver lining is a few months from now some of his cards that were not affordable to me might become attainable to complete a team set. Go Braves!

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      @@rookiedog1 this is very true. I’ll keep an eye out for some of his rarest image variations.
      🍻

  • @marthabrito503
    @marthabrito503 2 місяці тому +2

    Hate seeing a star injured but I don’t trust acuña i like Soto more

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - Soto’s game definitely leaves him less likely to get injured. And right now, that’s very appealing.

  • @teddo997
    @teddo997 2 місяці тому +1

    ok question.....long term Acuna or Vladdy?

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Ugh. Chris here - What a terrible question. Not that you asked it, but that I’m actually struggling for an answer.
      At this point, Vlad has a shot at 3,000
      Hits and Acuna really doesn’t.
      But Acunas overall popularity - he’s beloved by most fans - could keep his cards afloat.
      Right now, I can’t answer this. Just being honest.

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      I’ve got to say Acuña, BUT if Vladdy ever gets that launch angle fixed…

  • @richardbianco9674
    @richardbianco9674 2 місяці тому +2

    Here's the thing, the market is still going thru the correction of the pandemic boom. Almost every card was way overvalued across the board. So even with great seasons, momentum was not favoring price increases. This trend isn't even sport specific. Ultra modern has never been a good investment unless you are flipping or doing very short term. If you're holding for any length of time, 99% of cards go down, and that applies to every player.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - I think you’re probably right.
      Maybe 90% vs 99%. But otherwise, I can’t argue.

    • @richardbianco9674
      @richardbianco9674 2 місяці тому

      @SpitballinCards we've seen examples of even cards like x fractors and other 1 of 1s drop dispite championships and great seasons ( Luka comes to mind immediately). Even now though, Victor is another that dispite having a great rookie of the year campaign, most of his have fallen by half or more. The shear amount of cards regardless of rarity or perceived rarity ( dozens of low numbered parallels for example). The supply outweighs the demand eventually.

  • @josiahmcctchn
    @josiahmcctchn 2 місяці тому +2

    I think Acuna has been having a problem since the season started and it wasn't addressed. He hasn't been himself for sure.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - he’d been asked constantly about his health and his legs since the spring training run down. I truly feel like if there was an issue, the team wouldn’t put him out there every day.
      Having said that, you’re right. He didn’t seem like himself. Timing was off, swinging through pitches he was crushing last year.
      No idea why. Maybe history was just tired because he didn’t rest enough in the off season. He was definitely frustrated. And so were we!

    • @josiahmcctchn
      @josiahmcctchn 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards yeah he got thrown out 2 times leading off first base in one game... That's not him.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      @@josiahmcctchn very true. Could always be a case of trying to do too much to make up for the slow start.

  • @jonfishmacon
    @jonfishmacon 2 місяці тому +1

    DALE murphy was going to the hof in 1988 but not in 1993

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - he sure was! Poor guy just fell off a cliff.

  • @koach672
    @koach672 2 місяці тому +1

    My theory is that stolen bases do not increase card prices. Collectors know that 50+ stolen base seasons will most likely result in injuries and reduced career lengths.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - stolen bases are exciting!
      But you’re right, a player has to do more. That’s why 40/40 seasons are so rare and the hobby goes nuts when we get one!

    • @koach672
      @koach672 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SpitballinCards I completely agree. It just seems like seasons like that have a high probability of hurting the player long term. I probably have some recency bias here as well

  • @bangers_sportscards
    @bangers_sportscards 2 місяці тому +1

    Now I gotta know what happened to your horror story red ink soto, Chris

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Let’s just say the PSA gem pop isn’t going up because of us. Nether is the 9 pop.
      Or 8.
      Or 7…

  • @jonfishmacon
    @jonfishmacon 2 місяці тому +1

    i am in austin riley saddnes :(

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - Riley still has 100+ games to play. He didn’t completely forget how to hit.

    • @smartluck100
      @smartluck100 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards I wish he would forget how to strike out

  • @BringingTheHeat-VBC
    @BringingTheHeat-VBC 2 місяці тому +3

    they have been doomed. Follow along class. If if if...you have to stay on the field to be great. Sorry to "Break" that 1 little fact to you. Maybe "invest in Spencer Swollenbach"? He's supposed to be the next Vope and Francisco Domingos

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      An excellent reminder - The best ability is availability.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - absolutely. Can’t put up numbers from the IL.

  • @JsmithVB757
    @JsmithVB757 2 місяці тому

    Scott reminds me of Jeff Wilson.

    • @BringingTheHeat-VBC
      @BringingTheHeat-VBC 2 місяці тому +2

      not nearly the douche as Goof, losing 6 mil in 4 years in the hobby while calling himself an investor. Then there's Pea Pott.

  • @jmilb10053
    @jmilb10053 2 місяці тому

    Is the 2018 rookie class becoming the 1991 rookie class?

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +3

      Chris here - it still has Ohtani, Soto, Devers, and Albies. Lots of fire power and possibly the most famous, iconic player of all time.
      And don’t forget that 1991 Rookie Card Class has Chipper Jones!
      Thanks for watching!

    • @jmilb10053
      @jmilb10053 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards 91 has 3vHOFes and a lot of guys fell apart based on injuries and other issues. Looks pretty similar to me. Edit 3 I forgot Chippers rookie card is that year.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      @@jmilb10053 chipper and Mussina. Who am I forgetting?

    • @jmilb10053
      @jmilb10053 2 місяці тому

      @@SpitballinCards my 2 were Pudge and Bagwell. I forgot Chipper and Mussina. I must be getting old. Maybe 1991 was not as bad as I remember or it could be Knoblauch and Plantier make it seems worse?

  • @teddo997
    @teddo997 2 місяці тому +1

    Soto is an absolute snooze fest

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - very boring compared to Acuna but he has stayed healthy and that’s obviously a big deal. You can only
      Put up crazy numbers when you’re actually playing.
      Don’t snooze on Sotos csrds!
      Thanks for watching

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Booo! Jeff here: I live watching Soto’s at bats. On defense and the bases? Not so exciting…

    • @JenniferMedina-bg1zb
      @JenniferMedina-bg1zb 2 місяці тому

      Soto is a bad investment.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      @@JenniferMedina-bg1zb what makes you say that?

  • @mauriciobori
    @mauriciobori 2 місяці тому +2

    Sorry but I’m in Scottie team for this one I also hate acuña openly like he does and like we all know 😂😂

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +1

      Chris here - not many baseball players are truly hate-able. Maybe guys who consistently pimp hits they think are home runs but stay in the yard.
      Acunas energy seems so infectious and loveable. Maybe I’m blinded by the jersey.

  • @suitcasemurphy1220
    @suitcasemurphy1220 2 місяці тому +2

    eBay as a platform is on way down.
    Card values will continue to drop as Americans think fast food is “luxury”.
    Sell as fast as your fingers can type. 💸💸💸

    • @bencool8239
      @bencool8239 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes!! Sell....sell....sell.....😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Kiku-fz6xe
    @Kiku-fz6xe 2 місяці тому +2

    bankruptcy for Acuna collections

  • @stevepotts5931
    @stevepotts5931 2 місяці тому +1

    😂cards are investments….

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому

      Bad investments! (Usually!)

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - they shouldn’t be treated as such but if you spend $1000 on something because you expect to increase in value, what else is it?
      (Probably dumb - haha)

    • @stevepotts5931
      @stevepotts5931 2 місяці тому

      History is a great way to learn about what will happen in the future. Still waiting to see why all these “influencers” feel this recent card “boom” is different then all the other card “booms”. I don’t feel bad for the adults who will crash and burn, it’s the innocent kids who got convinced by these same adults by listening to them ramble on with well edited videos about how cards are investments.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      @@stevepotts5931 agreed. The parallels between what topps/fanatics are doing now, and what happened inspiring the junk era of the 90’s are very troubling.

  • @alphaomega9563
    @alphaomega9563 2 місяці тому

    guy is garbage he been in league long enough and people be moving on its all down from here PRO tip 99.99% players be in dollar bins stop buying cards anything above 10$ its a man on cardboard

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - but sometimes that same man signs the card!!!!

  • @mauriciobori
    @mauriciobori 2 місяці тому +1

    Lol chris the guy who said judge is not a lock for the hall of fame now says it’s time for kelenic ok good luck with those predictions not aging very week so gay we will see

    • @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin
      @Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin 2 місяці тому +1

      Jeff here: I’m hoping Kelenic.does take advantage of this opportunity and runs with it. But, that’s far from a given.

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому +2

      Chris here - judge is definitely not a lock for the hall of fame. Not yet anyway. Could he get there, absolutely. Will he? We don’t know yet.
      Is this not kelenic’s maybe last chance to show what he can do? Sure seems like it.
      Will he take off? Who knows. His history says probably not, and I’m not buying any of his cards.

  • @soccerplyr8
    @soccerplyr8 2 місяці тому

    He's a bum. How you get hurt running to 3rd? Baseball man

    • @SpitballinCards
      @SpitballinCards  2 місяці тому

      Chris here - it’s crazy what movements cause these top athletes to go down. Remember trout’s calf injury jogging to third base??
      It doesn’t make sense.