Audio From the Past [E09] - WW2 - Air Battle at Dover with Charles Gardner (1940)
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- On the 14th of July 1940, the Battle of Britain rages on. As violent dogfights occur over the English Channel, BBC reporter Charles Gardner reports on an encounter between three RAF Hurricanes and over 40 Luftwaffe aircraft.
The German pilot that Gardner thought he had spotted bailing out and landing in the sea was actually RAF Pilot Officer Michael Mudie, who died of his injuries the following day.The broadcast became controversial, as the correspondent's tone was thought to be unsuitable as he appeared to get carried away with excitement.
I'm 100% certain that scholars of ancient/medieval warfare would trade their lifetime's worth of research just to hear 7 minutes of audio from an iconic battle. What we're listening to here is priceless.
Polpiv4tifish
What on earth does "iconic" mean.
@TheBritishBulldog Not so.
@John6ytWhy are you telling ME that?
gratitude is the only word I can think of
Oh god, the things I'd be prepared to do for a time machine! Or let have done to me! Whatever, nearly anything
Only the British would consider this an "innapropriate level of excitement". Gotta love em:)
snowflakesafespace there's another audio clip on UA-cam of an avro Lancaster intercom crew chatter .. its is the best. ..their speech is absolutely calm..non chalant while they are getting hit with flak and fighters.. great stuff, reminds me of Monty Python
funshootin1 Yes! I too thought that video sounded like a Monty Python skit hahah The way they were just talking like it was just a short walk around the block, instead of a possibly fatal mission.
funshootin1 I've heard it and got it saved
Its called being 'Mature' not childish like...lets say yanks
Their Anglo-English use of language uses words a little differently. It's also an indicator of their personality. IF the U.S.A. hadn't of entered the war- Hitler eventually would of overran them.
My dad watched a dogfight going on over Middlesbrough when a nipper he was stood in the garden watching it he said there was bullet cases dropping all over rattling from roofs . His next door neighbour came out clipped him around the lug and dragged him into the house . My dad's nearly 90 now and remembers it like yesterday . . In the 1970s the houses got a refurb and some bullet cases from that day where found in the roof tiles of the houses .
Beautiful story, love it.
My Nana saw something similar from the top deck of a bus. Everyone rushed to one side to see it and she said it felt like it was tipping over. I also remember her saying that 'I had a dispatch rider under me in the war' which, now I'm much, much older, rather makes me wonder about what she meant...
@@Hartley_Hare 😆
This is a wonderful time capsule of the Battle of Britain
Truly a opportune time to be able to listen to their conversations now.
At about 1500 hours, Ju 87 Stuka dive-bombers of IV/LG 1, escorted by Bf 109s of III/JG 3 and II/JG 51, were despatched to attack the convoy codenamed BOOTY off Eastbourne. They were intercepted by Hurricanes from Nos. 151 and 615 Squadrons along with Spitfires from No. 610 Squadron. One Stuka and one Bf 109 were shot down. Another Bf 109 was badly damaged and crash-landed at Wissant. A Hurricane was also lost. During the attack, the vessel SS Island Queen (779 tons) was sunk and several other ships were damaged.
The aerial battle was witnessed by BBC radio reporter Charles Gardner standing on the cliffs of Dover. He gave a live running commentary that was later to become famous:
Thanks!
It is truly fascinating that we can listen to this over 80 years later, to still hear the bursts of the onboard armament, to hear the bombs and also the chatter of the crowd that has gathered to watch the fight in the background. It makes you think of what the fight must have looked like, what the crews on either side were experiencing as some held victories while some were shot down or limped home. I find it incredibly thankful that this was recorded. A fine bit of history.
A wonderful recording which i have on 78rpm record.🐒🐻🤗👍
"This is war! Not a game of cricket!"---I can understand why some people would be upset, commentating on a battle as if it's a cricket match, but we're human beings. We naturally are curious about what other humans are doing, and none of us today were there to see an aerial battle between Hurricanes and Stukas trying to bomb a British convoy. This is a remarkable recording of history as it happened, and it is perfectly natural for the radio broadcaster to have done it in the way he's done it, because war, while terrible, is also exciting! For all the civilians on the homefront, whose morale needs to be kept up, this is a brilliant report to those unable to witness the events in person--and hence, why it is so wonderful we have it preserved for us today.
exactly..."and none of us were there to see"....when people have fought in battle, then they can criticise
And it's important to recall that from the reporter's perspective, these men are both fighting to either subjugate him, or keep him free. His excitement is justified by the gravity of what that one fight represents. Success at any one point could, from his perspective, mean his whole life being turned upside down. Or ended. Something we can't fully appreciate from a point 80 years distant...
Yes indeed.
The ultimate outcome of this is a good deal more important than the outcome of any sports.
I first heard this in a documentary, and I have to admit, this broadcast really takes you into the moment of such a big battle.
@James Taylor That was the way we were back then.
Just as well, wasn't it.
Counselling and Compensation British - style in 1940:
'You need to pull yourself together, lad!
Sit down and get this mug of tea down yer. You'll soon be right!'
The reporter had no idea that in 80 years time, I'd be listening to this at 0.5 playback speed.
If you want to hear 'excited' listen to Charles at 2x speed. :)
Hitler: I feel it to be my duty before my own conscience to appeal once more to reason and common sense in Great Britain. I consider myself in a position to make this appeal since I am not the vanquished begging favors, but the victor speaking in the name of reason.
RAF: Hold my ale
Beautifully fucking illustrated
That's hilarious!! That's what we say in Texas 😹😹👍🏻
sounds like he's commentating on a sport rather than reporting a battle
He got into a lot of trouble over the broadcast, reporting in such a way whilst people were being killed.
Who cares if he got in trouble? The Germans were invading his homeland.
And yet freely available on the web, is an official report commissioned by the BBC at the time into the public's reaction to the broadcast. It shows the public appreciation was overwhelming, with just a few dissenting voices.
No it doesn’t
Only those who never had to fight a battle can criticise
My grandma can still recall the dog-fighting as a girl of 8. She says they used to stand in the garden and watch!
@Bas Finnis Silly boy.
I feel like that would be something I’d do
@@immortalsuislide5511 same
My nan and her sisters did the same thing they lived in Dover at the time and went up to the hills between Folkestone and Dover where the majority of the aerial combat took place with her friends and uncle, they had a picnic with their meagre rations as they watched planes burn and men die.
80 years on and nothing but respect.
Thank you for saving our nation 🇬🇧❤️🇮🇩
Yes.
Too bad we in the west have utterly squandered what they gave us.
Makes me feel rather ashamed to be honest.
Listening to this I get chills. My visuals going wild
His pronunciation is so lovely. 3:26 the way he rolls the 'r' in 'Really' as an example. Beautiful old Britain.
I've always been fascinated by this. It's as if the narrator is calling a football match.
Can’t believe recordings like this exist, it’s quit incredible.
Came across this today June,2020! I loved it and hope you have many more we could listen to? I am so grateful for this as a family member was a Pilot in the Battle of Britain.
somewhere after 6:20, the excitement in his voice really takes you back
I couldn't even imagine just being a witness to this. Just must have been absolutely incredible
Sunday afternoon at the battles
Cup of tea anyone ?
😂😂 drink your tea it's getting cold
My Nan was an East end girl and was shot at by a stuka .
She was pushing my auntie in a pram in 1940 and ran for her life to save the pair of them . They moved from London to Berkshire in 41 when my dad was born . My grandad stayed in the east end . After both grand parents passed we found love letters and within them were details of Gerry on bombing runs over London dropping incendiary bombs. The description was so calm no sense of panic just an every day occurrence.
For me between 1914 to 1945 was a generation of super heroes . incredible people
This brought tears of pride to my eyes, amazing courage by few.!
This is magnificent to hear the audio of such history
a dozen tech nerds out there,make a CGI battle reconstruction,w gardner narrating how kyooll that would be
🤞
it's amazing every now and then you can here the machine guns firing. We are actually hearing history as it's happening. This recording is priceless
While Edward R. Murrow garnered fame and glory doing terrific broadcasts from London and, much later Buchenwald, this broadcast shows he wasn't the only radio man to do an outstanding job when the mike was turned on and the action was hot. Gardner was smart enough to tell his audience when he couldn't see, and when what he could see was happening too fast to describe.
Yes guy that bailed was 24 year old Michael Murdie, he dies the next day of gun shot wound to the face and burns. Poor bastard. Also, Gardner got the aircraft wrong, it was 109's vs. Hurricanes. Incredible audio though and RIP to the fallen on both sides
Fantastic moment in history and to be able to hear it....wow
It’s refreshing to hear the BBC rooting for the British. You don’t get that these days 😂
😂
Just scarenews today
Boohoo
Ah, here we go everyone, we’ve found the whining right wing windbag, and his phony victimhood!😂
that must have been incredible to see
Mike McLaughlin there is film footage of this
Got a link or source?
John Mason Link?
its on you tube
@@growlanser5600 the world at war 7 CD documentary.
This was July, known as "Kanalkampf" or "Channel Battle" by the Germans. The Germans had not started bombing mainland Britain yet, the attacks were on British convoys. In August would begin "Adler Angriff" or the attempt to bomb the RAF airfields and sector stations out of existence.
This man should be the commentator for a topless darts match at Roehampton.
🤣
Incredible commentary
And of the going down of the sun...we will remember them.
That artwork is very fitting (fetching?). I like the picture and the broadcast!
If there is anybody from that generation watching ...THANK YOU ! Can't praise you enough !
Cant imagine watching these engagements above my land. Must have been surreal to see.
What a gem 💎 this recording is man 👌🏽
I think this would have lifted the spirts of any listener of the day.
Excellent-beats the audio of any World Cup final hands down!
Unfortunately, the Stuka usually had a crew of two. I assume the other "Caught a packet".
Jdr Eldridge the plane was actually a hurricane
Wish there was more of these recordings. A very different time.
Very British.
The plane he described crashing with the pilot bailed out was in fact a Hurricane from 615 Sqn, P/O M.R. Mudie died of his wounds the next day. Also, that journo sounded dissapointed the convoy wasn't hit.
This is a fantastic recording! & some thought it to be “controversial “ because the reporter gets excited? How absurd! Of COURSE he’s excited! He’s calling it play-by-play! 🇬🇧
Eric Sevareid of CBS made reference to this broadcast during the network's regular morning newscast four days later...
Surreal
I was given a 33rpm record of this recording by an elderly lady when I was young, It was amongst a pile of 1940 records that I once had along with an old wind up gramophone. There was another similar recording on the other side.
When I was about 8 I checked out a record from the library "Sounds of WWII" and it had this on it and I adored playing it. It also have Princess Elizabeth and Margaret Rose wishing the best of luck to the people of Britain. Also the D-Day landings and of course Chamberlain's sorrowful announcement that they were at war with Germany.... it was a fantastic record. They had one from WWI as well but it wasn't as exciting. Less on the spot recordings.
5:35 He sounds like Lindybeige describing a dogfight 😂
I live a few miles from Dover & I often see a house with a good view over the channel & I think "That'd be a good place to live in WWll to watch the dogfights during the battle of Britain."
Dover was terribly hit during the war though. And Folkestone just down the coast a bit. Only 20 miles from occupied France.
People said that you could stand on The Leas in Folkestone (a clifftop view of France in the middle of Folkestone town) & see the muzzle flash from the big German guns. Then count the seconds before a huge shell hit somewhere in town.
You can see the effect that both wars had on Dover & Folkestone all around you here. The town's were never evacuated.
Brave, brave people.
I often wonder what those people would say about the European Union. How peace had been maintained for 70 years. And that we pulled out of it.
I think they'd be bloody angry
Jolly good show!
I love Britain as if it was my own country, It would be terrible if Britain had been under German control to this day. In that respect not one single life during the war has been lost in vain.
Yes it was,and all because of bankers,the same people in control to day,are destroying all western countries,so they can stay on top of the shit heap.
@@paullooney2522 How has your changed with Putin invading Ukraine?
He gets excited about a German bomber going down, he was in fact mistaken and it was a English hurricane that went down thst day.
Simon Francis well researched. P/O M.R. Mudie of 615 Squadron reported bailed badly wounded & died the next day. Rest in Peace brave man. Thank you for your sacrifice.
RIP.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
1 Stuka went down.
“Go on George you’ve got him”😂
This is the Britain I love! God what a bunch of Heroes, to be alive during that time must have been every feeling under the sun, excitement and adrenaline filled misery! Make the most of some positive outcomes! Love hearing these gems!
The Junkers Gardener described as going down was in fact a Hurricane.
Pilot bailed out and was rescued by the Navy but died of his injuries the next day.
Source.
Battle of Britain
A day by day chronicle by Patrick Bishop.
Page 92.
He seemed almost disappointed that they had not hit any of the shipping. LOL
This made me want to experience what it’s like in the air.
May PO Michael Mudie, rest in peace
Cricket commentary with a little edge. Enjoyable. When’s the new ball due? A good wicket no doubt and the weather was absolutely splendid. One wicket down to the Germans - good catch at mid-on.
Brilliant broadcast. Gotta love the BBC ;)
What the BBC used to be.
All thats missing is Vin Scully providing some color commentary.
A random story about a guy he spoke to who built Messerschmits
"And wouldn't you know it, when I asked him, he said he didn't want to build airplanes as a boy. No, he said he always wanted to be a sea captain."
I would give so much to hear coms from pilots in a fur ball. Maybe something from the Battle of Britain, the Battle of Y29, or even more pilot coms from British or American bomber pilots. I’d even like to hear the Germans of Japanese during a fight
This can be also heard on BBC.
Michael Mudie was 24 when he died. His brother Arthur died iin Albania in November that year and he was only 22.
Many thanks for this Chuck. A time in which the fate of Europe may have been determined for many decades. As Ustio says - he sounds like a commentator on rugby match.
I think there’s an exhibit at the Museum if Science and Industry with this exact audio. The description of the exhibit also said the announcer was criticized for being overly excited,
Jolly good
Wtf, how do people expect him to sound? Disinterested? Imagine if you watching the same thing and describing to someone on the phone. You also would get excited (not from the pleasure) but the sheer Holy Hell im actually witnessing this!
Orville Wright passed away on January 30, 1948. I wonder what he thought about audiovisuals like this? :)
Years ago I remember hearing a similar recording of a German bombing raid which was broken up by Spitfires. I think the reporter referred to the bombers as looking like a dark cloud approaching and the Spitfires as little midges breaking it up. I also think that the raid was over Virginia Water in Surrey. However, I have done internet searches using various keywords, but can't find it. Anybody know where this recording may be found?
There is film to accompany that commentary, but evidently you don't have access to it.
And they’ve stopped play for tea.
Back to base for kippers and crumpets. God bless our brave airmen 🇬🇧
Some where there's a video that goes with this audio
Very well commentated this match and a long swim ashore for the ju87 pilot or gunner.
Im offended that the commentator is assuming the pilots' genders.
I assume old chap your taking piss
@@stevecooper3010 its hard to tell nowadays isnt it haha
Well their big balls hanging out of the undercarriage must have gave the game away 😂
I laughed.
Where did you find these recordings? Are there more publicly available?
Wow this made the hair on my neck stand up, you can easily visualise what's going on. 👌
You would think this guy was calling a football game!
Its sad really, this is actual commentary whilst people are getting killed .most of us listening to this have absolutely no concept of the trauma people ,be they german or british. went through just whilst actually chucking these aircraft about let alone when an aircraft got hit , ever seen the damage the 20mm cannon shell off the Me109 did to the skin of an aircraft ,then just imagine the pilot getting hit as well, ,,pinch yourself and feel the pain now multiply that 1000 fold. we just cannot fathom the intense trauma. Really so sad
the commentary takes you to the coast in what must have been quite a sight to see.. but i agree this is war commentary people died serving there countries. to think afew months after this audio perhaps all those pilots german and brit died.
He got into a lot of trouble over the broadcast, reporting in such a way whilst people were being killed.
whitestuff1959 bf 109*
ludvig schroll bf109 and me109 are the same shit.
Me109 was used more by the he brits and germans while bf109 was more of an american calling name for the planes.
bf109 was used by brits and still is because its correct
What's really eerie to think about is that the ju87 had a 2 man crew a pilot and gunner I assume the gunner didn't make it
Chase Alvarez some time the ju87's had only the pilot in them, for example in big fleets of ju87's flew with only half of them having gunners on board.
Squadrons that is
TehRacer That only happened if they were carrying a 1,000 + SC bomb and only in early variants. The pilot that bailed out was a Spitfire. The commentator thought it was a Stuka. Read the description.
The Growlanser
Why read when you can react? Welcome to the future of mankind.
Chase Alvarez Well the ju87 that went down in this was actually a hurricane
I cant seem to find any footage from the ground of dogfights like 2 of these audio recordings mention. Is unfortunate seems like an interesting POV
The pilot bailed; I bet he left his gunner screaming obscenities for bailing first. Once the pilot got out of the JU87 the poor gunner was trapped.
That 'Stuka' was actually a Hurricane.
So fortunately no second crewman was trapped, unfortunately the pilot died of his wounds.
If the announcer was any more RELAXED, he would be ASLEEP
Oh how times have changed.
Now, not only do they want an 'excited reporter', but they make stuff up, treat conjecture like fact and are generally completely unprofessional.
Would have been amazing to witness
So laid back think he was commenting on a cricket match! Class!
We may not know them all,but we owe them all
Well said... Cheers
It was a beautiful clear day. Jet streams snaked chaotically all over the sky. The planes were little more than spots. When a plane attacked you would see the puffs of smoke about 2 seconds before you hear the sounds. A remarkable and at the time quite a frightening sight. The germans were dominating the war at the time. Britain was the only country still at war with germany and was near to defeat.
It was the first battle that Hitler lost - and the one that decided the fate of humanity. Thank God the RAF and the armed services, supported by the whole country, won the Battle of Britain. Respect! 👍
Oh I say old boy ....
The Junkers are flown by two.
God bless our young lads, couldn't imagine the fear up there.
Wow! Just wow.
Back when the BBC was patriotic.
Lose some weight, then comment again, rightard.
Ahh politics!
Poli = many
Tics = bloodsuckers
Neil Wilson and tell me what's wrong with being patriotic?
absolutely bloody nothing,well done that man!!!.
lefty traitor!!!.
This is amazing
He was not that excited. At no point did he say 'Gosh!' or 'My word!'
And now both sides take a break for tea scones in the pavilion
Out numberd and out manned but not out gunned well done lads
When you know where they are and they do not know where you are you can do quite a lot with not very much at all.
- The brief history of the virtues of RADAR. I Thank God for Hugh Dowding.