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Why didn't you guys create individual cut off valves for each limb, you had to have realized a puncture/cut hydraulic line was a very real possibility?
My biggest recommendation as a motorcycle racer: there is nothing more epic than cockpit and helmet cam footage... The pilots always mention how epic it is inside the cockpit... So show us!
Yup... 360° coverage would also be great next time. A camera on each sides in the back would not have been a luxury. Most of the fight would have looked more epic from these viewpoints. Though this was definitely an improvement. Close-up of damages and repairs during the animation are still another possible upgrade.
And here they are folks.... they're coming at eachother..... Gonna collide eventually..... any day now..... and now here he goes, swinging back for a hit! Still back swinging! And here comes the punch! Still coming... still coming..... and there it goes! It hit... the foam.... this is history folks... history.
that was a significant improvement over the last match in my opinion. A suggestion now would be focusing on weapon types, trying to determine which weapons would be effective in the given scenario. the potential is huge.
Gatta say I think Iron Glory stood no chance here lol. That armour tearing and hydraulic fluid stuff was cool. Appreciate the work you guys put into doing this stuff.
I'm not sure I follow, Iron Glory stopped working because it ran out of hydraulic fluid in Round 2 and Round 3. If you watch the live stream you can watch Iron Glory be refilled with hydraulic oil and repairs be made.
After springing a major leak, smaller-scale hydraulic systems lose all pressure (therefore all force it can exert) immediately, and even minor leaks cause a system to be dead in the water within a minute. This is inherent to how hydraulic systems work. Also, I don't know what kind of hydraulic fluid they were using, but if it's anything like brake or transmission fluid, they couldn't have all those people there during a major leak. Brake fluid, like most petroleum products, is toxic to humans, though brake fluid is especially toxic and transmission fluid is so bad that you're advised to wash your hands immediately if you get some on them. I dripped some brake fluid on my plastic headlights, wiped it off as soon as I could, and they still got a spot on them I had to buff out.
You guys need weight classes. Kuratas was clearly in a much lower class weighing alot less than Eagle Prime and soooo much less hp at 80hp to Eagles 400hp. And engineering and arsenal would play a part in it too. Bringing weight classes into it would help make the fights alot more balanced and fair and make for a more exciting match as it could go either way. Example. Iorn Glory would be rank one. Kuratas would be rank two. And Eagle Prime would be like rank three XD
We definitely agree on weight classes! What do you think about piloted robots getting weight handicaps over remote control robots, though? Is 2X weight too much of a handicap?
I feel like remote controlled robots should be in a different division than piloted ones, Because when there are no pilots your are more free to use more dangerous weapons as opposed to when there are pilots that you have to be mindfull of so you dont seriously injure them, Fighting a Remote controlled robot would give the pilot an unfair advantage because the Remote controlled one would have to watch what weapons to use and where to use them and the one with the pilot would not have to
Also that could mean more interesting shows too, because those that want to see more carnage would tune into the non piloted ones because it would be a no holds bard match up because there are no humans. And the ones with piloted bots would be damaged but the damage would be fixable because of the human element and that also means a higher chance of seeing that robot fight again which would give the audiance the option of chosing favorites instead of expecting to see one completly destroyed never to return
Robots: doing hugs Announcer: OH MY GOD THIS IS INSAAAAANE NEVER SEEN THAT IN MY LIFE dude calm down there is really nothing happening, just robot dying by himself
The grapple is a bit OP, I feel like the battles would be much more spectacular and long-lasting if they had to rely on punching, with big windups and hard hits. When iron glory punched eagle prime during the second part everyone cheered, I think that's where its at.
Missed it live, so im glad i can watch a shorter version here instead of going through what i imagine was an hour or 2 long stream over on twitch. After finishing the video, i love the idea of using foam as armour, not only does it make the destruction more visually appealing but i'd assume it would also be cheaper and lighter allowing the machines to be faster.
I think as more regulations are agree upon (especially concerning safety of the pilots) more destructive weapons will be allowed allowing for and creating the need for better armor. It will still be visually appealing, just way more intense.
Brian P well yeah, we saw a glimpse of the more destructive effects with the chainsaw, but those weapons aren't going to be used as often as the claws which seem to be more or less just scratching the opponent...
I suggest that there be several types of battles, battles involving piloted robot vs piloted robot, controlled robots, ranged fights using paint cannons, mixed fights, blunt weapon fights, sharp weapon fights etc. Good work guys, this really is the beginning of a whole new type of sport.
This was substantially more entertaining than the prior staged fight, you can actually feel the excitement and scale with this one. Less staged drama and more bass busting engines grinding against each other while smacking 500-pound weapon limbs around.
Love the personal feedback from MegaBots. After a lot of people felt let down after the first fight, this is a great way to learn and understand what the community wants to see and what they can get hype behind!
The commenting here was so much better than the battle with Kuratas. The people there seemed more alive and involved (especially when interviewing/socializing with the pilots), though I felt like the phrase "This Is Live" was used like 15 times (I didn't count). The first round, in comparison to 2nd and 3rd round, seemed to have the most logical rules with no grabbing or knocking over allowed. More fight time means more experience. But all in all, everyone here seemed so much happier and interactive (than the prerecorded battle and random commentators). I look forward to seeing more! Keep asking your fans and yourselves questions on how to proceed and ideas!!
I was there, and it was so awesome to see in real life. I get that people think the announcer was lame, but I'm positive that's because how awesome this was doesn't come through in the video as well. In real life, it was so awesome!
I watched the stream. Heart damn near got broken when Iron Glory suffered the malfunction before they could really get into it. Hopefully such issues don't come up in later battle tests.
It was great! Glad to see 3 rounds! And malfunctions like that are the norm in robot fighting. happens on the small bots in robot wars so why not here?
That's what testing is for, even if the fight had a fatal flaw like that something important was learned as far as future development into this kind of technology.
Very cool idea! But honestly they barely moved. And I feel like the bad camera angle was on purpose. So much work to set this up! Then, bad camera work? I doubt it.
Eagle prime: *Flex* Iron glory: *Flex* *SUDDENLY CRACKS SPINE* *BLEEDS ITS FLUIDS EVERYWHERE* Rinse, Add eagle prime punching iron glory in round two, repeat
+brandonac45 gaming I don't think that is ever going to happen. These things cost millions of dollars, they are way to expensive to replace after every fight. There are plenty of ways to have a good fight without it being to the death. UFC isn't to the death, and its got plenty of fans. And as for "real guns" what do you mean? Because tank are already the best weapons platform available for land vehicles, so there's no point in making expensive robots to tell us that. Unless of course you want a rc, live sized tank battles, which would be admittedly cool as hell, although it would be different from this. Do you mean keep it mostly about melee combat but give them machine guns to destroy sensitive parts of the robot? Because that doesn't seem like it would make up for the entertainment lost by making them unmanned.
So, you want to go watch "Robot Wars". That's what you're talking about. It's a great show but part of the draw of this is that the pilots have to be INSIDE of the machine. Also, tanks may not be the BEST land based weapons platform. Mostly because tanks have never faced "Giant Robots" though.
Great job guys! This is a great step in the right direction. I'm still hoping for a full league someday. Still you guys seem to have really helped reignite the imagination of a generation for mechs. It was my dream growing up, and it's getting closer every day now. Although, there seems to be a big mismatch between the two of them, and with only the two fighting that makes it less interesting over a long period. It also isn't as exciting when they get into the big grapple. They just don't twist fast enough to make the clinch look like pulse pounding action. I'd prefer to see more long and mid range mixed back in. Even if it meant adding areas that shut down different parts of the mech when hit. Sort of like a kill switch if that makes sense.
This was great!! THATS how you dual giant robots!!! I think Matt needs to moderate ALL the duals! His excitement and enthusiasm was fantastic!!! Thank you, MegaBots Inc for including your fans in your testing process!
don't listen to haters and dumbasses, this shit is balla as hell, its good as chips n dip, its the bees knees. Mecha fights are the future of entertainment (or at least, I want them to be badly enough)
Totally one side battle! But I love watching robots doing battle! Would like to see another international fight again! China & Korea both have working mechs! Although I think Korea's robot is just for demonstrating design & functionality! China's robot has a staff weapon!
Speaking long-term for the possible sport you're trying to build (and we hope you succeed in building!), I can only really see two ways of making the fights both impressive to watch but keep people from being injured or killed. 1. Both robots are remote controlled, hopefully with a secure system because no one wants a rampaging robot. 2. Both are piloted, the weapons are designed to pose no real threat to the pilots, and the robots are designed to take damage in some flashy fashion like with break away parts, maybe aluminum panels or otherwise things.
I loved this guys, keep up the great work, I really want to see this become a bigger deal, and maybe get involved one day, either with you guys or against you :P
What about robots flipping each other over, grinding each other in an arena, slicing each other to bits, and torching each other is fake? If anything normal wrestling is considerably more fake, because they're pulling their punches! In robot wars, those pilots are out to kill the other robot with there own, so they pull no punches.
Put the men in a "pod" that simulates the inside of the cockpit, and maybe have some way of telling if the cockpit has been ruptured or the pilot dead to be an alternate way to stop the robot
I'm happy that you're actively pursuing making robot fights a reality! I think almost all of us who grew up watching cartoons and anime wished that our beloved robots/mechs would become reality someday. Although this thing is still in its infancy, I can already imagine a future where battles would actually resemble those that we have fantasized about from our cartoons/anime shows. In my opinion, one way to add excitement to a fight is SPEED. I think this is one problem that you'll really need to solve. Giant robots that barely move aren't that exciting. I would rather see smaller robots that are more agile, able to jump or cling to walls and then shoot projectiles or perform neat acrobatic attacks. Then again, that wouldn't really be "giant robot" battles anymore. I guess one solution that I can imagine is the use of "boosters" if that can actually work in real life and not just cartoons/anime. For example, a giant robot that wants to perform a dashing attack can use a quick burst of speed using its boosters. The robot will then move faster with more force as if it's some angry dude wanting to bash a beer thief. Of course those things are very advanced but I'm sure your level of technology will get to that point someday. By the way, one thing that I enjoyed with the fight against the Kurata was when they launched that unexpected drone in the air. Although it was pretty much pointless (what was it even supposed to do?!), it did add something different to the fight. I think having drones or assistant bots would be great in fights. For example, maybe you could have a set limit of drones or assistant bots a giant robot fighter can have. Maybe a limit of 2. One drone can probably perform distraction like launching little smoke grenades, while the second drone can either lodge itself in the opponent robot's mechanical parts to hinder its movements or completely immobilize it. Another thing that would be cool is if the robots can use MARTIAL ARTS to do battle! Imagine robots doing judo throws or WWE wrestling moves, that would be entertaining! It would also be great if each robot had a signature finishing move. Just because this is a "real" robot battle doesn't mean you can't be flashy and have style! Just imagine a battle between two giant robots. Robot A launches two drones, one to distract Robot B and another to jam one of its limbs. The drones manage to distract Robot B and the sacrificial drone successfully jams itself into Robot B's left defensive arm, rendering it useless. Sensing that Robot B is now a sitting duck, Robot A pulls out its "Axe of Destruction!" from its back and then it uses its booster to charge right into Robot B! As Robot A charges forward, it performs a spin attack with its axe called "Hell's Tornado" and then it chops off Robot B's upper body from the lower body! The crowd cheers and Robot A's theme song plays in the background! Anyway those are just things that immediately come to mind for me. I wish to see more giant robot battles and I hope we'll someday get closer to those cartoon/anime style battles! Oh yeah, it would also be awesome if you could somehow engineer the bots to have legs and not just wheels. Entertainment doesn't mean they always need to be made for functionality. Maybe we could have different types of battles. A stylistic one where robots can have legs or maybe even hover on the ground where fights are meant to be for fun and excitement, and then also a "realistic functional" battle where everything is technical, meant for maximum efficiency, and entertainment is not the main point. Keep up the great work!
MegaBots Inc first live giant robot battle! We brought.. most of our kids, just did it in the back. We hella recorded it... >:/ this deserves fair grounds, bleachers, and vendors.
That was so cool. You guys Improved so much in such a short period of time. There's no way you can keep people in those bots though. One unlucky stab and you could kill those pilots.
This was actually pretty good given the disaster the kuratas fight was. It's getting better! Good job boys! Keep it up. I'm glad you guys are listening to your fans! Can't wait for the next vid! We
Guys the fight was absolutely awesome, Really happy to see you guys having fun with it live. That is worth more than all the kayfabe in the world. Rock on, you robot jox. BIG THING THOUGH: PILOTS OF EAGLE PRIME NEED TO START WEARING HANS DEVICES RIGHT AWAY. These are very common in all existing motorsports(which is what you guys basically are). This fight proved tipping is a huge possibility, and protecting your necks from whiplash in the fall is gonna be critical.
Just would like to add that perhaps weapons ranging from ranged to up close should me be made available. If limited projectiles such as paint balls are used then why not have kill switches throughout the mechs that cause armor ejections or disabling of system or limbs if hit. It would help in giving a reason to have weapons other then hugging and grappling each other until something gives. Keep up the god work guys. This is the future just like the Drone Racing League!
after seeing this i finally know what's wrong here in my opinion using hydraulics was a poor choice a robot that's electric from the "waist" up would be superior due to the massive torque that electric motors have and the redundancy they provide (if one burns out the others can keep going instead of one leak powering down all systems) if done right a bot with such hardware would be able to pull off quicker , more sudden movements , making the fights more organic ,on top of that without hydraulics in the way it would be hardier to provide power to such a beast id that the newly developed solid state lithium batteries that simoutaneously provide2-3 times the energy density of a current tech lithium battery while being impossible to explode obviously remote control would be superior , remooving the risk would allow for more extreme combat , a control cockpit with a vr headset as the interface that would follow the head's movement (as they use for drone racing) would be perfect and control would be done in a specialised cockpit with intuitive control systems speaking with controls i would suggest grouping up with suitobashi and developing an arm following technology (i've seen something similar in one of their vids) that would allow the robot's arms to be controlled by following the movement of the arms of the user making combat even more organic finally adding one "hand" by implementing the previously mentioned control system could allow "holster sidearms" such as swords or guns a robot could use alongside it's mounted weapons (imagine a massive rifle or sword being wielded ...... orgamsic) though this would result in a bulkier bot it would be closer to what we see in sci-fi
I totally agree with electronic motors being an interesting idea. The only issue that I can see with electric components, would be the battery issue. Lithium ion batteries catch fire when punctured, and there is a high potential for that in this type of fight. Pilot safety is the key factor. As for the remote controled versions, I say don't use them. The appeal of these fights is for piloted machines. If you go remote controled, then it just becomes a scaled up version of RoboWars.
Joshua Abrams i addressed the issue with batteries Solid electrolyte lithium batteries don't explode and can store more energy (also for responsiveness and arm control tech that mechs could use look at the all electric method 2 mech that a Korean company made)
fl00fydragon electric motors are much more fragile than electric, and the heat generated by them is much greater than that of hydraulics. They just did a poor job of protecting the lines and creating remote shut off valves at each limb to prevent "bleeding out"
muy buena idea manejar el robot con control remoto para que asi no se limite la capacidad de destruccion entre los robots,espero que mas adelante creen mas robots que se manejen con control remoto y sean mas rapidos sus movimientos;es muy interesante el futuro que tiene este proyecto de la liga de robots gigantes, yo los apoyo
You dont bloody need a nickname for someone literally named Orion! Come on man! Its the ultimate mech pilot name. What, if someone's literally named "Prometheus" you would ask for a nickname too? Dude..
This is crazy amazing! It's definitely a different feel from the Kuratas fight. The price you pay is stuff like round 1 happening in the shot, but hey if that's what people want, I say give 'em live! Personally I don't actually think the prerecorded version of the Kuratas fight was necessarily a mistake. It was an experiment, and you learned from it. I'm sure it also let you iron out some of the kinks off camera so that for this round you had a better idea of what you were doing going in. I eagerly await to see how this evolves and to see what you guys come up with for next time. Mad props!! To everyone who only thinks this is "lame" or that "the pilots are bad": you clearly have no grasp of the limitations of current technology (and without an unlimited budget no less) compared to whatever you see in the movies, on TV, or in an anime; nor do you understand the concept of a learning curve. Everyone starts somewhere. Right now we're newbies and we're still learning how things work in a practical context. Memorizing controls, training muscle memory, adapting to unfamiliar situations, and reacting to unforeseen problems are just a few of the time intensive things that can only now finally start to happen now that we actually have a giant fighting robot that we can practice with.
As I thought, the weapons that relied on ke generated by the arms and torso weren't particularly useful. Powered weapons look like they are going to be the way to go for awhile. Some better armour will also allow the mechs to give bigger and harder hits; which is more fun for everyone. Weapons like grinders, Tombstone-esk spinners, abrasive jet saws, pneumatic hammers, pneumatic spikes, wrecking ball flails, and shields will all be some cool weapons to see. Also, strategic placing of small, dremel tool like buzz saws on the forearms should discourage grappling in favor of striking ua-cam.com/video/wIHwqPAgA9I/v-deo.html that would mess up and grabbing implements. They also obviously need to sort out their engines, and they need some better protection for their hydraulic lines, but I'm optimistic that they can pull it off.
Yep, working on it. All of our camera gear (like all the GoPros we put everywhere on the robots) is set up for recording to tape. We're working on beefing up our livestream game, slowly but surely.
I have to say this was SO MUCH better than the previous one. Thank you for listening and wanting to do better. Before and after discussions with pilots was a lot more interesting this time around. Would have liked to have heard from the engineers a bit as they were fixing them up. Obviously there's a lot to improve on but much of that is easily due to this being a much lower budget and live event and obviously I expect that as you are beta testing what this is eventually going to look like so all the following comments are with that in mind. We need better camera work. The first match especially looked incredibly disappointing despite apparently there being quite a few hits in. This is true of later fights but here especially I think a lot more of the action was on the opposite side of what wee saw. A non-live fight (but still real-time) would have the time to better pick angles. More camera angles. With the robots up close for a lot of the fight they obscure each other. A drone camera or two getting arial shots would provide a better view and more interest cut in with the rest. Similarly a go-pro or two on the arms or cockpit so we can see hits and see what a pilot would be seeing (more so than the cockpit seeing the pilots). Sound. Again something that would need to be done in post by mixing the channels but we don't get to hear much of the bangs and scrapes. It would be great to hear the relevant pilot chats too, Starting positions. All 3 fights start with a straight movement in and I think that's going to get old. Even just having them face away or behind obstacles would help. This means there's more tactical decisions at the start. Do you turn right around, try and circle in etc and also gives an edge to having maneuverability. Looking forward to the next test fight. Hoping you can find ways to integrate long range or useful objects in the arena (eg picking up cars to hit each other with).
yuuna chan Well at one point remote control mech is also being call as a mech, take type-3 Kiryu as example, it's control by two white hero or something from far, and Kiryu is also been call MechaGodzilla 3
i cant believe i get to see the first days of something as big as this. if history repeats itself and this is the equivalent of being awe struck at a color tube TV. then i cant wait to see the "flat 4k tvs" of this sport.
This is a big step here, not a whole lot of movement going on but with every battle, every step it shows what needs to be improved and what strategies can be made. I for one would totally equip my own bot(if I had one) with a cannon that would shoot an oil slick, the opposing bot would lose traction and then I could perform a series of bashes with a ram or claw, easy win.
Bohemond I of Antioch The fights need to be about in pilot skill and responses with the mech. As well as the mech being tuned to the pilots response.. Put the man in the bot and give it human response not a safe guy in the corner with a remote controls... That guy doesn't feel fear thar would make him act to change his moves
One ting to consider is the production side. These need to be cheap and easy to make while they are in battle testing so less impressive camera shots and editing. Also being live means that picking the right camera for a certain shot or even having enough cameras is an issue for now. Unlike the last fight where they used production to cover up an unimpressive fight I'd rather they focus on the fight format first then work out the production to show it off.
I absolutely love what you guys are doing and appreciate that this is early days, but the impacts reeeeeeally need more force. For instance, the pneumatic fist on Cherno Alpha from Pacific rim packs a meaty punch (to illustrate my point:)) Also I think making them remote controlled is a great idea, so you can have more dangerous fights. Even though pilots are awesome 😊😊
I don't think force is the problem -- they're both too heavily armoured (to protect the pilot) versus the damage they put out. They seem to do alright pummeling up cars, so once they go full remote-controlled perhaps there'll be less need for heavy armour and thus (a) more impact, (b) more agility... ?
Yo it seems like the armor falls off so easily like literally the armor fell off from getting grabbed. It’s like it’s not even welded on, you could do that to a car and the body would just dent but that’s it
Was a lot more fun than the first one. If robots get faster and stonger, this will be interesting. Also as already stated in other comments, more different camera angles would be nice. Especially a top view with a drone would really help.
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Thx man
Why didn't you guys create individual cut off valves for each limb, you had to have realized a puncture/cut hydraulic line was a very real possibility?
My biggest recommendation as a motorcycle racer: there is nothing more epic than cockpit and helmet cam footage... The pilots always mention how epic it is inside the cockpit... So show us!
Eben Adams
They should fight China's Wukong robot
Yup... 360° coverage would also be great next time. A camera on each sides in the back would not have been a luxury. Most of the fight would have looked more epic from these viewpoints.
Though this was definitely an improvement.
Close-up of damages and repairs during the animation are still another possible upgrade.
And here they are folks.... they're coming at eachother..... Gonna collide eventually..... any day now..... and now here he goes, swinging back for a hit! Still back swinging! And here comes the punch! Still coming... still coming..... and there it goes! It hit... the foam.... this is history folks... history.
that was a significant improvement over the last match in my opinion. A suggestion now would be focusing on weapon types, trying to determine which weapons would be effective in the given scenario. the potential is huge.
Definitely agree.
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I chose hammer and mace.
Yes, rather than focusing on the vital technology within the robots just give them harder to implement weapons.
high pressure water cannon
It's like watching two elderly men fight over a parking space.
You need more camera angles, or a couple of AP drones.
I agree. Can they get Japans?
They have giant mechas but no drone with a cam
You saw what Eagle Prime did to that other drone
Bobert Games drone for camera angles so you can actually see shit. Not for distractions ffs
Drones gunners sounds nice, lol
Gatta say I think Iron Glory stood no chance here lol. That armour tearing and hydraulic fluid stuff was cool. Appreciate the work you guys put into doing this stuff.
That was easily the fakest thing in either robot fight. No hydraulic system could lose that much fluid and still function on any level.
I'm not sure I follow, Iron Glory stopped working because it ran out of hydraulic fluid in Round 2 and Round 3.
If you watch the live stream you can watch Iron Glory be refilled with hydraulic oil and repairs be made.
After springing a major leak, smaller-scale hydraulic systems lose all pressure (therefore all force it can exert) immediately, and even minor leaks cause a system to be dead in the water within a minute. This is inherent to how hydraulic systems work.
Also, I don't know what kind of hydraulic fluid they were using, but if it's anything like brake or transmission fluid, they couldn't have all those people there during a major leak. Brake fluid, like most petroleum products, is toxic to humans, though brake fluid is especially toxic and transmission fluid is so bad that you're advised to wash your hands immediately if you get some on them. I dripped some brake fluid on my plastic headlights, wiped it off as soon as I could, and they still got a spot on them I had to buff out.
Drinking Challenge: Every time he says "first", "Live robot fight", "fortress one" or "Heyward, California" take a shot...
I died 20 seconds into the match from alcohol poisoning.
*Iron Glory engine dies
Announcer: IT IS ON FIRE THIS IS AMAZING! IRON GLORY HAS EXPLODED IN A PLUME OF SMOKE, SMOKE IS FILLING THE BATTLEFIELD HERE
THE POWER PLAT HAS EXPLODED IN IRON GLORY!!!!!!!!
You guys need weight classes. Kuratas was clearly in a much lower class weighing alot less than Eagle Prime and soooo much less hp at 80hp to Eagles 400hp. And engineering and arsenal would play a part in it too. Bringing weight classes into it would help make the fights alot more balanced and fair and make for a more exciting match as it could go either way. Example. Iorn Glory would be rank one. Kuratas would be rank two. And Eagle Prime would be like rank three XD
We definitely agree on weight classes! What do you think about piloted robots getting weight handicaps over remote control robots, though? Is 2X weight too much of a handicap?
MegaBots Inc I'd say maybe a 10-20% handicap on weight would be fair, 2x is a bit much I think
Handicaps will help the "eb and flow" of varying budgets/designs coming in from different teams.
I feel like remote controlled robots should be in a different division than piloted ones, Because when there are no pilots your are more free to use more dangerous weapons as opposed to when there are pilots that you have to be mindfull of so you dont seriously injure them, Fighting a Remote controlled robot would give the pilot an unfair advantage because the Remote controlled one would have to watch what weapons to use and where to use them and the one with the pilot would not have to
Also that could mean more interesting shows too, because those that want to see more carnage would tune into the non piloted ones because it would be a no holds bard match up because there are no humans. And the ones with piloted bots would be damaged but the damage would be fixable because of the human element and that also means a higher chance of seeing that robot fight again which would give the audiance the option of chosing favorites instead of expecting to see one completly destroyed never to return
Robots: doing hugs
Announcer: OH MY GOD THIS IS INSAAAAANE NEVER SEEN THAT IN MY LIFE
dude calm down there is really nothing happening, just robot dying by himself
Real deal! Thank you for listening to your fans!!!
The grapple is a bit OP, I feel like the battles would be much more spectacular and long-lasting if they had to rely on punching, with big windups and hard hits. When iron glory punched eagle prime during the second part everyone cheered, I think that's where its at.
I think some stragtegic placing of some of these would help: ua-cam.com/video/wIHwqPAgA9I/v-deo.html
Missed it live, so im glad i can watch a shorter version here instead of going through what i imagine was an hour or 2 long stream over on twitch.
After finishing the video, i love the idea of using foam as armour, not only does it make the destruction more visually appealing but i'd assume it would also be cheaper and lighter allowing the machines to be faster.
I think as more regulations are agree upon (especially concerning safety of the pilots) more destructive weapons will be allowed allowing for and creating the need for better armor. It will still be visually appealing, just way more intense.
Brian P well yeah, we saw a glimpse of the more destructive effects with the chainsaw, but those weapons aren't going to be used as often as the claws which seem to be more or less just scratching the opponent...
I suggest that there be several types of battles, battles involving piloted robot vs piloted robot, controlled robots, ranged fights using paint cannons, mixed fights, blunt weapon fights, sharp weapon fights etc. Good work guys, this really is the beginning of a whole new type of sport.
This was substantially more entertaining than the prior staged fight, you can actually feel the excitement and scale with this one. Less staged drama and more bass busting engines grinding against each other while smacking 500-pound weapon limbs around.
Love the personal feedback from MegaBots. After a lot of people felt let down after the first fight, this is a great way to learn and understand what the community wants to see and what they can get hype behind!
The commenting here was so much better than the battle with Kuratas. The people there seemed more alive and involved (especially when interviewing/socializing with the pilots), though I felt like the phrase "This Is Live" was used like 15 times (I didn't count). The first round, in comparison to 2nd and 3rd round, seemed to have the most logical rules with no grabbing or knocking over allowed. More fight time means more experience. But all in all, everyone here seemed so much happier and interactive (than the prerecorded battle and random commentators). I look forward to seeing more! Keep asking your fans and yourselves questions on how to proceed and ideas!!
I was there, and it was so awesome to see in real life. I get that people think the announcer was lame, but I'm positive that's because how awesome this was doesn't come through in the video as well. In real life, it was so awesome!
I watched the stream. Heart damn near got broken when Iron Glory suffered the malfunction before they could really get into it.
Hopefully such issues don't come up in later battle tests.
We're working on battle-hardening both robots for future tests!
That was real tho! It was so awesome to watch them get back together and two more awesome rounds in!
MegaBots Inc Iron Glory needs some love on the engineering department
It was great! Glad to see 3 rounds! And malfunctions like that are the norm in robot fighting. happens on the small bots in robot wars so why not here?
That's what testing is for, even if the fight had a fatal flaw like that something important was learned as far as future development into this kind of technology.
I’m not sure what fight the commentator was watching but he was way too excited for that show
Build them for speed and ranged attacks and the people will come.
Great job guys.
Announcer could have toned it down a little, but it was interesting. Probably about as chaotic as you can make it at this point I imagine. :D
He had to entertain a live crowd
and he's been working for two years to make this happen
STFU
+Rodrigo Rivera love you too XOXOXOXO
hocadidilyocutt we just need stronger motors, we have the tech to fight hardcore small robots, not big ones yet though
Very cool idea! But honestly they barely moved. And I feel like the bad camera angle was on purpose. So much work to set this up! Then, bad camera work? I doubt it.
It is getting way better!
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@@augustajones4 wtf is wrong with you
LOL I LAUGHED WHAT'S WRONG WTF MAN
I'll be honest, this was more exciting than the Kuratas fight, mostly because this felt less scripted.
Let's go iron glory!!!!! What? I can't be the only one.
LET'S GO PRIME
Narrator: THIS IS AMAZZINNNNGGGG
Me:dude some smoke appeared, that's it, nothing happened
“RELENTLESSLY ATTACKING”
*tap tap*
Honestly, 2 bulldozer going head to head is probably more interesting
Eagle prime: *Flex*
Iron glory: *Flex* *SUDDENLY CRACKS SPINE*
*BLEEDS ITS FLUIDS EVERYWHERE*
Rinse, Add eagle prime punching iron glory in round two, repeat
I'd say go fully remote, and focus on less grappling. Backing up after a big hit should happen, instead of the two just getting locked in.
Amiibo Charles fully remote wouldn't be as fun or entertaining
MrTarfu it will be because then they could use real guns and actually destroy each other
brandonac45 gaming not realistically, the legality issues for putting actual guns on the robots is complex.
+brandonac45 gaming I don't think that is ever going to happen. These things cost millions of dollars, they are way to expensive to replace after every fight. There are plenty of ways to have a good fight without it being to the death. UFC isn't to the death, and its got plenty of fans. And as for "real guns" what do you mean? Because tank are already the best weapons platform available for land vehicles, so there's no point in making expensive robots to tell us that. Unless of course you want a rc, live sized tank battles, which would be admittedly cool as hell, although it would be different from this. Do you mean keep it mostly about melee combat but give them machine guns to destroy sensitive parts of the robot? Because that doesn't seem like it would make up for the entertainment lost by making them unmanned.
So, you want to go watch "Robot Wars". That's what you're talking about. It's a great show but part of the draw of this is that the pilots have to be INSIDE of the machine. Also, tanks may not be the BEST land based weapons platform. Mostly because tanks have never faced "Giant Robots" though.
Great job guys! This is a great step in the right direction. I'm still hoping for a full league someday. Still you guys seem to have really helped reignite the imagination of a generation for mechs. It was my dream growing up, and it's getting closer every day now.
Although, there seems to be a big mismatch between the two of them, and with only the two fighting that makes it less interesting over a long period. It also isn't as exciting when they get into the big grapple. They just don't twist fast enough to make the clinch look like pulse pounding action. I'd prefer to see more long and mid range mixed back in. Even if it meant adding areas that shut down different parts of the mech when hit. Sort of like a kill switch if that makes sense.
This was great!! THATS how you dual giant robots!!!
I think Matt needs to moderate ALL the duals! His excitement and enthusiasm was fantastic!!!
Thank you, MegaBots Inc for including your fans in your testing process!
don't listen to haters and dumbasses, this shit is balla as hell, its good as chips n dip, its the bees knees. Mecha fights are the future of entertainment (or at least, I want them to be badly enough)
You guys are making every kid's dream come true! Thank you for all of your efforts. You rule!!!
Totally one side battle! But I love watching robots doing battle! Would like to see another international fight again! China & Korea both have working mechs! Although I think Korea's robot is just for demonstrating design & functionality! China's robot has a staff weapon!
China robot is rubbish, their just can copy only.
I loved to see it yesterday with my family! Looking forward to the next fight!
28:00 Why using FOAM as armor?
Because their projectiles are paintballs and similar objects. They're not trying to kill each other.
There on a budget, and iron glory was mainly just for show
As Jem said. Iron Glory was more proof of concept than battle ready. They'll need 2 eagle primes to make this an even match in terms of design.
Be cuz fck it
YCCCm7 No one has the money for another eagle prime :(
Speaking long-term for the possible sport you're trying to build (and we hope you succeed in building!), I can only really see two ways of making the fights both impressive to watch but keep people from being injured or killed.
1. Both robots are remote controlled, hopefully with a secure system because no one wants a rampaging robot.
2. Both are piloted, the weapons are designed to pose no real threat to the pilots, and the robots are designed to take damage in some flashy fashion like with break away parts, maybe aluminum panels or otherwise things.
could you imagine if the Transformers movie was like this....
Autobots roll out. *scoots away with 2 miles per hour, hitting a rock allong the way unable to proceed*
Or Guntanks from Mobile Suit Gundam.
@@petezah4597 😹😹😹😹😹😹
That would be so boring lol
Much better than last time. At least it's not scripted.
Amen.
I loved this guys, keep up the great work, I really want to see this become a bigger deal, and maybe get involved one day, either with you guys or against you :P
I Like eagle prime
Wow its nice to be able to see something like this in my lifetime!
Loved it, looking forward to seeing more. A drone camera could be good for getting a nice view of those clinches though
These are getting better and better!
We need more camera angles!
just about to comment that... , when the angle switched mid fight I suddenly got more hyped up!
Stuart Dilts
No body wants to get close to that shit lol
I wonder if it could've seemed more intense if they had a decent announcer.
In 5 years this could be as big as Robot Wars. In ten years; League of Legends status.
MrBuffalohorn thats want they want to make money from crap fake American robot wrestling
It really did; it’s airing new episodes every Sunday.
"As big as Robot Wars" isn't really saying much, it's a fun show but not exactly topping any charts in terms of popularity.
What about robots flipping each other over, grinding each other in an arena, slicing each other to bits, and torching each other is fake? If anything normal wrestling is considerably more fake, because they're pulling their punches! In robot wars, those pilots are out to kill the other robot with there own, so they pull no punches.
U mean battlebots man. Robot Wars is kinda a shit ripoff of it
I think these fights would benefit from some drone cameras for more dynamic footage, make it look more action packed.
MUCH better than the original fight. Thank you for taking fans opinions in consideration!
What about to put Eagle Prime against an Excavator?! :)
Put the men in a "pod" that simulates the inside of the cockpit, and maybe have some way of telling if the cockpit has been ruptured or the pilot dead to be an alternate way to stop the robot
Even the giant robot fights in ROBOT JOX were less awkward than this :/
I think the biggest take away from this fight is that you need more cameras in better places
This is both fun and funny to watch.
Way better then the fight against kuratas!
Mr. Abrams
Ehhh, I don't knowwww🤔
I'm happy that you're actively pursuing making robot fights a reality! I think almost all of us who grew up watching cartoons and anime wished that our beloved robots/mechs would become reality someday. Although this thing is still in its infancy, I can already imagine a future where battles would actually resemble those that we have fantasized about from our cartoons/anime shows.
In my opinion, one way to add excitement to a fight is SPEED. I think this is one problem that you'll really need to solve. Giant robots that barely move aren't that exciting. I would rather see smaller robots that are more agile, able to jump or cling to walls and then shoot projectiles or perform neat acrobatic attacks. Then again, that wouldn't really be "giant robot" battles anymore. I guess one solution that I can imagine is the use of "boosters" if that can actually work in real life and not just cartoons/anime. For example, a giant robot that wants to perform a dashing attack can use a quick burst of speed using its boosters. The robot will then move faster with more force as if it's some angry dude wanting to bash a beer thief. Of course those things are very advanced but I'm sure your level of technology will get to that point someday.
By the way, one thing that I enjoyed with the fight against the Kurata was when they launched that unexpected drone in the air. Although it was pretty much pointless (what was it even supposed to do?!), it did add something different to the fight. I think having drones or assistant bots would be great in fights. For example, maybe you could have a set limit of drones or assistant bots a giant robot fighter can have. Maybe a limit of 2. One drone can probably perform distraction like launching little smoke grenades, while the second drone can either lodge itself in the opponent robot's mechanical parts to hinder its movements or completely immobilize it.
Another thing that would be cool is if the robots can use MARTIAL ARTS to do battle! Imagine robots doing judo throws or WWE wrestling moves, that would be entertaining! It would also be great if each robot had a signature finishing move. Just because this is a "real" robot battle doesn't mean you can't be flashy and have style! Just imagine a battle between two giant robots. Robot A launches two drones, one to distract Robot B and another to jam one of its limbs. The drones manage to distract Robot B and the sacrificial drone successfully jams itself into Robot B's left defensive arm, rendering it useless. Sensing that Robot B is now a sitting duck, Robot A pulls out its "Axe of Destruction!" from its back and then it uses its booster to charge right into Robot B! As Robot A charges forward, it performs a spin attack with its axe called "Hell's Tornado" and then it chops off Robot B's upper body from the lower body! The crowd cheers and Robot A's theme song plays in the background!
Anyway those are just things that immediately come to mind for me. I wish to see more giant robot battles and I hope we'll someday get closer to those cartoon/anime style battles! Oh yeah, it would also be awesome if you could somehow engineer the bots to have legs and not just wheels. Entertainment doesn't mean they always need to be made for functionality. Maybe we could have different types of battles. A stylistic one where robots can have legs or maybe even hover on the ground where fights are meant to be for fun and excitement, and then also a "realistic functional" battle where everything is technical, meant for maximum efficiency, and entertainment is not the main point.
Keep up the great work!
FIRST!
Wow.
I call hackz
Jemcm123spy for real. Hahahahah
MegaBots Inc you need sponsors. Skaters get sponsors. Coke vs. Toyota!!!
MegaBots Inc first live giant robot battle! We brought.. most of our kids, just did it in the back. We hella recorded it... >:/ this deserves fair grounds, bleachers, and vendors.
Please add cockpit and helmet cams for the pilots. Action is always better from the pilot's seat
badass!
welp time to get an old car and some freinds. im gonna try and make my own bot.
cog wheel. Just get a excavator and add armor
Chicks dig giant Robots
in the end, the spectators lose, because they get bored
That was so cool. You guys Improved so much in such a short period of time. There's no way you can keep people in those bots though. One unlucky stab and you could kill those pilots.
thats teh fun of it though. the thrill of the fight!
This makes me nostalgic for Robot Jox!! I Can't wait for the robots to have more fluid movements.
second round was quite a thrill!
This was actually pretty good given the disaster the kuratas fight was. It's getting better! Good job boys! Keep it up. I'm glad you guys are listening to your fans!
Can't wait for the next vid! We
This is real!⚡ 😂
Guys the fight was absolutely awesome, Really happy to see you guys having fun with it live. That is worth more than all the kayfabe in the world. Rock on, you robot jox.
BIG THING THOUGH:
PILOTS OF EAGLE PRIME NEED TO START WEARING HANS DEVICES RIGHT AWAY. These are very common in all existing motorsports(which is what you guys basically are). This fight proved tipping is a huge possibility, and protecting your necks from whiplash in the fall is gonna be critical.
I enjoyed this direction more than the Kuratas fight. I prefer robot fights as something more like NASCAR than WWE.
Just would like to add that perhaps weapons ranging from ranged to up close should me be made available. If limited projectiles such as paint balls are used then why not have kill switches throughout the mechs that cause armor ejections or disabling of system or limbs if hit. It would help in giving a reason to have weapons other then hugging and grappling each other until something gives. Keep up the god work guys. This is the future just like the Drone Racing League!
after seeing this i finally know what's wrong here
in my opinion using hydraulics was a poor choice
a robot that's electric from the "waist" up would be superior due to the massive torque that electric motors have and the redundancy they provide (if one burns out the others can keep going instead of one leak powering down all systems)
if done right a bot with such hardware would be able to pull off quicker , more sudden movements , making the fights more organic ,on top of that without hydraulics in the way it would be hardier
to provide power to such a beast id that the newly developed solid state lithium batteries that simoutaneously provide2-3 times the energy density of a current tech lithium battery while being impossible to explode
obviously remote control would be superior , remooving the risk would allow for more extreme combat , a control cockpit with a vr headset as the interface that would follow the head's movement (as they use for drone racing) would be perfect and control would be done in a specialised cockpit with intuitive control systems
speaking with controls i would suggest grouping up with suitobashi and developing an arm following technology (i've seen something similar in one of their vids) that would allow the robot's arms to be controlled by following the movement of the arms of the user making combat even more organic
finally adding one "hand" by implementing the previously mentioned control system could allow "holster sidearms" such as swords or guns a robot could use alongside it's mounted weapons (imagine a massive rifle or sword being wielded ...... orgamsic)
though this would result in a bulkier bot it would be closer to what we see in sci-fi
I totally agree with electronic motors being an interesting idea. The only issue that I can see with electric components, would be the battery issue. Lithium ion batteries catch fire when punctured, and there is a high potential for that in this type of fight. Pilot safety is the key factor. As for the remote controled versions, I say don't use them. The appeal of these fights is for piloted machines. If you go remote controled, then it just becomes a scaled up version of RoboWars.
Joshua Abrams i addressed the issue with batteries
Solid electrolyte lithium batteries don't explode and can store more energy
(also for responsiveness and arm control tech that mechs could use look at the all electric method 2 mech that a Korean company made)
if the eagle prime was electronic then the water bottles on the kurtas would actually be useful lol
BeaconBot boltz design redundancy and waterproof the shit out of it ;)
Look at method 2 arm's movements and tell me it's not worth the risk
fl00fydragon electric motors are much more fragile than electric, and the heat generated by them is much greater than that of hydraulics. They just did a poor job of protecting the lines and creating remote shut off valves at each limb to prevent "bleeding out"
muy buena idea manejar el robot con control remoto para que asi no se limite la capacidad de destruccion entre los robots,espero que mas adelante creen mas robots que se manejen con control remoto y sean mas rapidos sus movimientos;es muy interesante el futuro que tiene este proyecto de la liga de robots gigantes, yo los apoyo
You dont bloody need a nickname for someone literally named Orion!
Come on man! Its the ultimate mech pilot name.
What, if someone's literally named "Prometheus" you would ask for a nickname too? Dude..
Great fight guys, definitely better live keep it upppppppppppp
When I win the lottery I want to be part of the league with my team 😄
BOTCON SHOW can i join your teamas a pilot
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of course 😄😄😄
as long as I can be the co pilot sure 😄😄😄
BOTCON SHOW sweet
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This is crazy amazing! It's definitely a different feel from the Kuratas fight. The price you pay is stuff like round 1 happening in the shot, but hey if that's what people want, I say give 'em live! Personally I don't actually think the prerecorded version of the Kuratas fight was necessarily a mistake. It was an experiment, and you learned from it. I'm sure it also let you iron out some of the kinks off camera so that for this round you had a better idea of what you were doing going in. I eagerly await to see how this evolves and to see what you guys come up with for next time. Mad props!!
To everyone who only thinks this is "lame" or that "the pilots are bad": you clearly have no grasp of the limitations of current technology (and without an unlimited budget no less) compared to whatever you see in the movies, on TV, or in an anime; nor do you understand the concept of a learning curve. Everyone starts somewhere. Right now we're newbies and we're still learning how things work in a practical context. Memorizing controls, training muscle memory, adapting to unfamiliar situations, and reacting to unforeseen problems are just a few of the time intensive things that can only now finally start to happen now that we actually have a giant fighting robot that we can practice with.
As I thought, the weapons that relied on ke generated by the arms and torso weren't particularly useful. Powered weapons look like they are going to be the way to go for awhile. Some better armour will also allow the mechs to give bigger and harder hits; which is more fun for everyone. Weapons like grinders, Tombstone-esk spinners, abrasive jet saws, pneumatic hammers, pneumatic spikes, wrecking ball flails, and shields will all be some cool weapons to see. Also, strategic placing of small, dremel tool like buzz saws on the forearms should discourage grappling in favor of striking ua-cam.com/video/wIHwqPAgA9I/v-deo.html that would mess up and grabbing implements. They also obviously need to sort out their engines, and they need some better protection for their hydraulic lines, but I'm optimistic that they can pull it off.
I wonder why this isn’t wildly popular
Is there anyway we could get a better camera angle next time? It was hard to see the hits.
Yep, working on it. All of our camera gear (like all the GoPros we put everywhere on the robots) is set up for recording to tape. We're working on beefing up our livestream game, slowly but surely.
MegaBots Inc That's awesome! I really appreciate you guys being so responsive to your fans. Super cool.
"THIS IS REAL" XD love this guy's passion
Here is a hint. The only way to stop people from whining about it not being live is to stream right here on UA-cam.
I have to say this was SO MUCH better than the previous one. Thank you for listening and wanting to do better.
Before and after discussions with pilots was a lot more interesting this time around. Would have liked to have heard from the engineers a bit as they were fixing them up.
Obviously there's a lot to improve on but much of that is easily due to this being a much lower budget and live event and obviously I expect that as you are beta testing what this is eventually going to look like so all the following comments are with that in mind.
We need better camera work. The first match especially looked incredibly disappointing despite apparently there being quite a few hits in. This is true of later fights but here especially I think a lot more of the action was on the opposite side of what wee saw. A non-live fight (but still real-time) would have the time to better pick angles.
More camera angles. With the robots up close for a lot of the fight they obscure each other. A drone camera or two getting arial shots would provide a better view and more interest cut in with the rest. Similarly a go-pro or two on the arms or cockpit so we can see hits and see what a pilot would be seeing (more so than the cockpit seeing the pilots).
Sound. Again something that would need to be done in post by mixing the channels but we don't get to hear much of the bangs and scrapes. It would be great to hear the relevant pilot chats too,
Starting positions. All 3 fights start with a straight movement in and I think that's going to get old. Even just having them face away or behind obstacles would help. This means there's more tactical decisions at the start. Do you turn right around, try and circle in etc and also gives an edge to having maneuverability.
Looking forward to the next test fight. Hoping you can find ways to integrate long range or useful objects in the arena (eg picking up cars to hit each other with).
Minerals > Vitamins
Nice! Loved the hydraulic fluid.
umm i think they should call it mech .. mech and robot are different .. mech has pilot in it .. while robot is remote controlled pilot
+Aian Lacruzel if my recall is right tetsujin 28 doesnt have a pilot in it so i think its robot
yuuna chan Well at one point remote control mech is also being call as a mech, take type-3 Kiryu as example, it's control by two white hero or something from far, and Kiryu is also been call MechaGodzilla 3
Hopefully this grows and improves
Like it allot but take the Mic away from Matt. And the camera angles weren't very good you couldn't see allot of the fight .
No way! Matt was awesome!
i cant believe i get to see the first days of something as big as this. if history repeats itself and this is the equivalent of being awe struck at a color tube TV. then i cant wait to see the "flat 4k tvs" of this sport.
Kuratas rules.
First live giant robot fight, first live giant robot fight!! First live giant robot fight😂😂 oh my gosh does he enjoy saying that
There was a lot of effort made in making those robots. But it's still a lame fight.
I agree. They barely moved. Cool concept though.
I just imagine someone hacking iron glory, then you have a legit robot fight with them. 🤣
That useless cannon arm though, still good fight
This is a big step here, not a whole lot of movement going on but with every battle, every step it shows what needs to be improved and what strategies can be made. I for one would totally equip my own bot(if I had one) with a cannon that would shoot an oil slick, the opposing bot would lose traction and then I could perform a series of bashes with a ram or claw, easy win.
Do not take men out of the cockpits damn it....!!!!
Why?
Bohemond I of Antioch
The fights need to be about in pilot skill and responses with the mech. As well as the mech being tuned to the pilots response.. Put the man in the bot and give it human response not a safe guy in the corner with a remote controls... That guy doesn't feel fear thar would make him act to change his moves
Oh, I miss read your comment, I thought it said "Take the men out of the cockpits damnit!!!" :). Carry on good sir.
The commentator is much more excited than the actual fight, which left me yawning and fast forwarding through it.
I thought it would be... i don't know, maybe more epic? I feel disappointment
lFoRGoTl id they were smaller it would be faster and exciting but since it's big it's kinda slow tbh...
Dude we are writinf history.. if you want epicness go warch transformers
The first tanks weren't all that impressive, granted tanks are actually practical.
lFoRGoTl give it some time, in 40 years they'll be doing backflips.
One ting to consider is the production side. These need to be cheap and easy to make while they are in battle testing so less impressive camera shots and editing. Also being live means that picking the right camera for a certain shot or even having enough cameras is an issue for now.
Unlike the last fight where they used production to cover up an unimpressive fight I'd rather they focus on the fight format first then work out the production to show it off.
Better than the first fight in my opinion even if one wasn't piloted, felt more like the stakes were high at least in the 3rd round
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It was more or less a reference to Alex Jones, but yeah..
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I absolutely love what you guys are doing and appreciate that this is early days, but the impacts reeeeeeally need more force.
For instance, the pneumatic fist on Cherno Alpha from Pacific rim packs a meaty punch (to illustrate my point:))
Also I think making them remote controlled is a great idea, so you can have more dangerous fights. Even though pilots are awesome 😊😊
I don't think force is the problem -- they're both too heavily armoured (to protect the pilot) versus the damage they put out. They seem to do alright pummeling up cars, so once they go full remote-controlled perhaps there'll be less need for heavy armour and thus (a) more impact, (b) more agility... ?
Ditmar Van Belle that's a good point, maybe they can limit armour thickness or something
Yo it seems like the armor falls off so easily like literally the armor fell off from getting grabbed. It’s like it’s not even welded on, you could do that to a car and the body would just dent but that’s it
The angles were pretty bad as well. most of the fight I had no clue what was going on.
Was a lot more fun than the first one. If robots get faster and stonger, this will be interesting. Also as already stated in other comments, more different camera angles would be nice. Especially a top view with a drone would really help.