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КОМЕНТАРІ • 374

  • @mrzimm
    @mrzimm Рік тому +271

    Cool
    But did you think of using bearings for gears ? You already use non printed axels
    Bearings can significantly reduce friction between gears and axels, resulting in much higher resulting speed.
    Also bearings will help with precision which will help to reduce friction between gears and will not let them wobble (this is frictions losses too)
    And if you mad enough you can end up using ceramic bearing instead of usual ones, which do not need grease and have extremely low friction.
    This will give you the best result, but using ceramic bearings will be very costly in comparison to usual bearings

    • @kirknelson156
      @kirknelson156 Рік тому +11

      took the words right out of my mouth, thanks for saving me the time to type that 🙂

    • @DroidzandBrix
      @DroidzandBrix Рік тому +3

      Not to mention it would greatly reduce wear on the gears, since there is nothing between the shaft and the gear

    • @aidenkyle6627
      @aidenkyle6627 Рік тому

      With just 120 rpm I got it going 50 rps using gears

    • @schrodingersmechanic7622
      @schrodingersmechanic7622 Рік тому +2

      I built a 3d printed fidget spinner that used ceramic bearings and had a steel outer ring for maximum rotating mass. Best hand spin was a little over 7 minutes. Ceramic bearings are next level

    • @shiranduarte
      @shiranduarte Рік тому

      Add a weight wheel so you can accelerate slowly but with little increment of torque. The spinning torque will be kept by the momentum of the heavy wheel, so you can add more gears if torque is the problem

  • @waldfruchttee
    @waldfruchttee Рік тому +800

    im not a engeneer or something like that but i think torque would be a problem

    • @kintex6441
      @kintex6441 Рік тому +65

      It is. Just an inevitability from the engines

    • @jascow
      @jascow Рік тому +37

      Yes, but there is no load. Its like picking up nothing vs picking up a tv, you would run out of torque to pick up the tv but not the nothing because there is nothing to lift

    • @kintex6441
      @kintex6441 Рік тому +68

      @@jascow here there is something to "lift" though. Each gear acts as tension applied, creating the need for torque.

    • @bongogorillatag7025
      @bongogorillatag7025 Рік тому +1

      That’s what I was thinking lol

    • @Cyberlong
      @Cyberlong Рік тому +18

      ​@@jascowbruh, you forgot friction inefficiency. Even without a load, if the gears have too much friction, the machine won't work.

  • @virrebooi93
    @virrebooi93 4 місяці тому +159

    Use bearings wtf

    • @Fedsema124
      @Fedsema124 4 місяці тому +15

      It’s a gear box not a bearing box

    • @yobtnirp3D
      @yobtnirp3D 4 місяці тому +17

      @@Fedsema124he means to use bearings on the gears

    • @Fedsema124
      @Fedsema124 4 місяці тому +10

      @@yobtnirp3D oh that makes more sense

    • @Fedsema124
      @Fedsema124 4 місяці тому +5

      @@yobtnirp3D sorry

    • @pixelcube6329
      @pixelcube6329 3 місяці тому +1

      Bro its suppoded to be 3d printed

  • @billdoodson4232
    @billdoodson4232 Рік тому +521

    You would get higher speeds just by lubricating the gears with a silicone spray. You could do a before and after run to see how large the improvement is.

  • @mosesm.3431
    @mosesm.3431 Рік тому +44

    The key is, for that 35,000 rpm motor on Amazon, that rating is given with ZERO load. (And that motor is probably not strong enough to sustain that RPM with a load)
    So potentially a 2:1 gear ratio attached to it might have such a load as to reduce the motor speed by half, thereby only maintaining 35,000 on the output side of this 2:1 gear ratio.

  • @Thexiledemon
    @Thexiledemon 6 місяців тому +6

    0:12 blud became McQueen

  • @DavidIsTheWalrus
    @DavidIsTheWalrus Рік тому +43

    I would also consider teeth design, I recall another creator finding herringbone gears handling the friction problem a lot better when it comes to 3D printing.

  • @gqinc1202
    @gqinc1202 Рік тому +53

    You need a way better power supply, that brick can't supply the amperage that motor needs, that's why it shut off

    • @fss1704
      @fss1704 Рік тому +1

      pwm controller not psu

    • @kevinroscom
      @kevinroscom Рік тому +2

      ​@@fss1704PWM isn't magic, if it's a 350 watt motor and you run it at 100% duty cycle you're still going to saturate whatever the power supply limit is. Judging by the thin gauge of the wires connecting to the PWM controller as compared to the motor, yeah he's definitely running out of current

    • @Denis7947.
      @Denis7947. 6 місяців тому

      It needs 31-30 amps for that motor

    • @Denis7947.
      @Denis7947. 6 місяців тому

      If is a 12v motor

  • @pixelapse9613
    @pixelapse9613 7 місяців тому +2

    5:36 Best Quote ever for Mechanical Engineering students

  • @JoeBlow-zr2ru
    @JoeBlow-zr2ru Рік тому +6

    The motor is *_not_* going to suddenly "stall" as the power continues to be increased (unless it burns out). Instead, it would simply reach a maximum speed. Probably you reached the current (or temperature) limit of your supply's regulator (or maybe the speed controller), and it shut off it's output to prevent damage, until the load was disconnected (or the semiconductor device cooled down). You can check this with a voltmeter across the motor wires.

    • @TheRaidingGamer
      @TheRaidingGamer 8 місяців тому

      I was thinking the same thing! Brushed DC motors like the one he showed don’t “stall” since they’re mechanically commutated (they can stall but not in the same way as BLDCs, like the guy in the video is describing)

  • @null_0x00
    @null_0x00 8 місяців тому +2

    That tiny little power supply will never be able to drive a 350 watt motor.

  • @Kevin-k8l2z
    @Kevin-k8l2z 5 місяців тому +1

    0:42 UA-cam captions : ya that’s sounds like music to me

  • @deadshot6477
    @deadshot6477 Рік тому +4

    I'm not an engineer but I think it's common sense to add bearing

  • @Bomber_fireworks
    @Bomber_fireworks Рік тому +7

    Hey, just a thought, you could try to use magnetic gears to avoid friction, plus put gears on a special high speed ballbearings. Eventually, the speed is limited by the material strength, at some point the gear will self destruct by the centrifugal force, so maybe the last gear could be made from metal. Theoretically, few houndreds thouthands PRM could be reacheble

  • @ogysmet9667
    @ogysmet9667 8 місяців тому +1

    For speeds like that, ball bearings with the proper C value will be a game changer, every C value is for a particular rotation speed. This will enable you to stop the gears from rubbing and shifting back and forward on the axle. I use C3 barrings up to 20k rpm. Above, you would probably need type C4.

  • @JakeMiller-p7w
    @JakeMiller-p7w 8 місяців тому +2

    being more accurate and putting more care into your craft will result in a better product, not just slapping stuff together

  • @PipeManPeep
    @PipeManPeep 10 місяців тому +2

    The motor isn't stalling. The power supply is being overloaded. Assuming that 350 W motor runs from 24 V, you'll need a 15 A power supply. That one you showed doesn't look like it could do mote than 2!

  • @ruthberryman937
    @ruthberryman937 7 місяців тому +2

    I just love watching his videos

  • @PrinceofWalesisland
    @PrinceofWalesisland 6 місяців тому +5

    Your wires feeding your motor are way too small! You're not getting near the output the motor is capable of. The leads coming from the motor are designed to be connected directly to an ESC. If you need to extend these wires you have to run a heavier gauge. In your case you have a smaller gauge wire running to the bigger wires from the motor, no bueno! BTW if you're really trying to get insane rpms you either need to run bearings or tight tolerance lubricated bushings. The motor didn't stall when you fed more power, you had runaway thermal impedance in that tiny wire you're feeding the motor with, I'm surprised it didn't catch on fire!

  • @Twostrokejoe
    @Twostrokejoe 8 місяців тому +1

    the large pivots are a high point of friction. make them a lot smaller, or place the gears on bearings. i think the limit for speed will be when one of the gears flys apart.

  • @user-mw4po9mx1t
    @user-mw4po9mx1t 10 місяців тому +3

    Something is telling me that you should try to cut with that..

  • @Anton_X69
    @Anton_X69 Рік тому +6

    Said it before, Order some small bearings and press into the gears, And ull notice a huge diffrence

    • @themonsterunderyourbed9408
      @themonsterunderyourbed9408 5 місяців тому

      He's a UA-camr that's decent at 3d printing. He has no idea how to make those design better.

  • @deeznuts-u4s
    @deeznuts-u4s 5 місяців тому +1

    at this point the main issue is not friction, but centrifugal force, because i'm scared it will tear itself apart at 100,000 rpm.

  • @Derpynewb
    @Derpynewb 7 місяців тому +1

    torque multiplication also works the othet way. thay ratio also works in reverse for multiplying the resistance of that gear.

  • @trk.is.trippin
    @trk.is.trippin Рік тому +15

    at this point just build it out of metal

    • @AJSkyler-pe6gq
      @AJSkyler-pe6gq 4 місяці тому

      Yes

    • @Chiknnuggut
      @Chiknnuggut 4 місяці тому

      Smart

    • @Jason_69-gb1it
      @Jason_69-gb1it Місяць тому

      Smart but metal 3d printers is very expensive

    • @trk.is.trippin
      @trk.is.trippin Місяць тому

      @@Jason_69-gb1it or use a block of metal and cut it to a gear. Who even 3d prints metal?

  • @danamatic7216
    @danamatic7216 Рік тому +2

    Time to build a transmission.

  • @jesse-dg8yx
    @jesse-dg8yx 10 місяців тому +2

    Ever heard of grease? Most gearboxes have a layer of it. Also, like someone else said, torque is the issue in this equation.

  • @simoesp
    @simoesp Рік тому +1

    some issue you have is also power the wires and transformer you were using definitively doesn't trow 14 Amps for the motor to hold on the 350W

  • @andymuzzo8568
    @andymuzzo8568 Рік тому +3

    How many watts is that power supply. Does look like it can output greater than 350w. Also makes the setup with less parts. And get some needle rolling bearings

  • @iangreenhoe6611
    @iangreenhoe6611 8 місяців тому +1

    A great experiment to repeat WITH THE AXLES ON BEARINGS

  • @enigmatique1387
    @enigmatique1387 Рік тому +3

    What if we implemented this design into vehicles? Would it result in less fuel consumption if the motors are spinning slower gears but putting out a faster rotation?

    • @romefalls.
      @romefalls. Рік тому +4

      that's already implemented with those 10 speed gearboxes that are becoming sorta common nowadays. at the cost of stressing the bleep out of the engine, you could theoretically have your engine sitting at idling rpm while driving at 60mph on the highway.

    • @romefalls.
      @romefalls. Рік тому +2

      forgot to mention it does impact fuel consumption in a good way, because in a nutshell lower rpm equals lower fuel consumption... theoretically. im not a motor wagon fixer person

  • @dheerajkr.7899
    @dheerajkr.7899 6 місяців тому +1

    you should add a flywheel to the last gear to get maximum output

  • @bricoschmoo1897
    @bricoschmoo1897 Рік тому +2

    I love how you fidget spinned the variable speed controller at the begining of the video :'D

  • @Chris-ue7zr
    @Chris-ue7zr 20 днів тому

    6:17 I love this quote

  • @ChadDidNothingWrong
    @ChadDidNothingWrong Рік тому +1

    Lube the gears with Teflon powder.
    It's like dry graphite lubricant, but less dirty and way more slippery-er.

  • @jakobvelepec5131
    @jakobvelepec5131 Рік тому +5

    power supply for the motor definitely cant provide 350w

  • @bombn4779
    @bombn4779 Рік тому +4

    Try building a transmission where you can change gears to build speed more efficiently, also try installing bearings on each gear to reduce friction

  • @ShadyHero
    @ShadyHero 6 місяців тому +1

    0:21 roughly half a horsepower for anyone wondering.
    0.469358 HP to be exact

  • @hestonbriant1969
    @hestonbriant1969 Рік тому +1

    Incase you overcome your friction loss issues: Depending on the radius, a 100k rpm shaft speed could cause the gear teeth to exceed the speed of sound.

  • @Impossible_Fishy
    @Impossible_Fishy Рік тому +2

    You need a 15 amp 24 volt psi minimum, a wall wart isn’t doing that

  • @Damian-v3h7o
    @Damian-v3h7o 28 днів тому

    1. Use a more powerful motor (i recommend kunray brushless 3000w motor kit)
    2. Use metal bearings
    3. Keep your gear design, it's good!

  • @Austinsairplanes
    @Austinsairplanes Рік тому +1

    Not sure those tiny wires from your power source would even provide enough current to get that motor up to speed

  • @a-randomfloof
    @a-randomfloof 3 місяці тому +1

    add some bearings, add some sillicone spray, and we’ll get a lot more speed

  • @_cody
    @_cody Рік тому +1

    the plug you used to power that motor i guarantee wasn't enough amps I've used those motors they take a lot use 2 12 volt battery's to power the motor and it should reach 100k rpm that power brick can at most give 3 amps of power and that motor uses 14 amps under load

  • @traviszane5334
    @traviszane5334 25 днів тому

    Reducing the friction or creating a variable gear box to step up the speed slowly to reduce the required torque would greatly increase the top speed

  • @sharonbradford4494
    @sharonbradford4494 5 місяців тому +1

    Speed controller also works as a light dimmer

  • @hoyakim4280
    @hoyakim4280 Рік тому +2

    Tesla turbine with compressed air will achieve the fastest speed you can get with plastic parts.

  • @CrestRising
    @CrestRising Рік тому +1

    bearings and shims to stop the gears slapping off the stanchions as they rotate

  • @carolalambo5730
    @carolalambo5730 29 днів тому

    0:50 sounds like a very fast piano swipe

  • @rowanrichard8037
    @rowanrichard8037 10 місяців тому +1

    Maybe use bearings, the friction due to vibration might be really affecting the rotation of the last gear, I could be wrong cause I’m not an engineer 🤷‍♂️

  • @Dazdigo
    @Dazdigo Рік тому +1

    Also there is little surface contact between the gears so any sort of work on it would break teeth.

  • @SuperLowe1
    @SuperLowe1 Рік тому +1

    for the axles, next time freeze them and then tap them in, then let them seat as they come up to temp

  • @BJL2142
    @BJL2142 Рік тому +1

    Also worth noting that the torque is reduced due to the multiplication, its always a trade off, multiply torque/ruduce speed or multiply speed/reduce torque

  • @plutohell811
    @plutohell811 29 днів тому

    this guy has the best brain in the entire world in my opinion

  • @alexander2856
    @alexander2856 Рік тому +2

    you can also calculate the speed of movement of the extreme point on the last gear, and estimate how close you are to the speed of light o_O

  • @Caramel---
    @Caramel--- 5 місяців тому +2

    If you really wanted high RPM he could get a Castle Creations brushless 7700kv motor when you run it on 4S or 16.8 volts full charge you should get just about 100,000 RPM and you could put bearings in between the shaft and the gears, also adding grease you could probably geared up two to three times skit about 200,000 to 400,000RPM
    The RPM and gear ratio was a estimate but the motor should be able to run the high of RPM and don't run it for too long or the motor might heat up

  • @aidanschmidt
    @aidanschmidt 7 місяців тому +1

    I am pursuing an internal combustion engine development career. I think that a simple $100 harbor freight 212cc engine could have enough torque to get 100k rpm

  • @joshanderson1019
    @joshanderson1019 Рік тому +2

    Your biggest problem is that you are trying to feed a 300w motor with a tiny power supply and when the motor overloads the power supply, it shuts off. Borrow one from a 3d printer and try again.

    • @3DPrinterAcademy
      @3DPrinterAcademy  Рік тому

      !! the Ender 3 has a 24v 350w power supply, would be perfect for this motor

  • @nickolaslandon4640
    @nickolaslandon4640 Рік тому +1

    Silicon spray lubricant would help wonders

  • @ElliesDragneel
    @ElliesDragneel 5 місяців тому +1

    You should build a launcher for bayblades
    Have you ever thought of launching a bayblade with this crazy rpm?

  • @RyuKyu316
    @RyuKyu316 4 місяці тому +1

    It's over 9000!

  • @_cody
    @_cody Рік тому +1

    also amazon has a kit with up to a 3000watt brushless motor that has high rpm that would do great for this and its less then 200$

  • @jaivierbirring9757
    @jaivierbirring9757 11 місяців тому

    Make a air raid siren with this motor, big brain to scare your neighbors

  • @anonymous-mj8wb
    @anonymous-mj8wb Рік тому +1

    bearings and very light oil. that would make the last one spin over 100k rpm

  • @CZD31095
    @CZD31095 3 місяці тому

    2:25 me: making a saw blade with the tiny gear

  • @asa7398
    @asa7398 7 місяців тому +1

    You could've used a brushless motor or a 775 dc motor that can easily top 7k to 30k rpm

  • @StevenHouse1980
    @StevenHouse1980 Рік тому +4

    Yes but if you setup the drive wheel to give power to 6 other wheels in a Hex configuration around it could you get each one to make enough power to the drive wheel and a bit more?

  • @Superarabr
    @Superarabr 10 місяців тому +1

    Can You Please Make That Spreadsheet Public to make copies?
    Thank You!

  • @joshuameredith4602
    @joshuameredith4602 Рік тому +1

    I think I have an idea to make it gearbox spin fast, so what is of course you start with a big gear and you know attached to a small gear simple, instead of adding a bigger gear to the small gear to the small gear. How about you add a small gear to it that has more teeth and then have a smaller for that gear(with less teeth of course), I hope you get the point

  • @Voice_Of_Truth467
    @Voice_Of_Truth467 Рік тому +1

    Try using some bearings next time. That way the force of friction will be reduced to a minimum, may achieve a higher rpm that can be sustained. This will also increase the efficiency of the system.

  • @mcbeenb
    @mcbeenb Рік тому +1

    those gears flopping around have huge losses. lock down those axles, and get some bearing in there to control your motion.

  • @PhilmoreJenkins
    @PhilmoreJenkins Рік тому +1

    Isn't the torque of DC motors directly connected to their speed (input voltage)? Wouldn't an ac motor be better suited for this type of application? That way you get max torque even at lower speeds in order to fight that high torque?

  • @johngicistechcom
    @johngicistechcom Рік тому +2

    This would be dramatically improved by using bearings

  • @jenniferwhichelo4787
    @jenniferwhichelo4787 Рік тому +1

    You would need a bigger motor for it to be faster

  • @sizzlinggrandma2609
    @sizzlinggrandma2609 Рік тому

    "look at my cool gear train" *epic boss music starts playing*

  • @parzival7071
    @parzival7071 8 місяців тому

    im so thankfull mate i have an RPM problem with one of my projekts and didnt even think about such a controller

  • @AndrewWorkshop
    @AndrewWorkshop Рік тому

    Very cool experiment!

  • @Theminer5-6
    @Theminer5-6 Рік тому

    "Speed. I am speed." McQueen. "SPEED IS KEEEYYYYYYY!" jacksepticeye.

  • @MrRelevance02
    @MrRelevance02 8 місяців тому

    Dyson vacuum cleaner sitting there at 120,000 RPM

  • @havem_0
    @havem_0 8 місяців тому

    the guy just created fan mode 4

  • @fpaonchart
    @fpaonchart Рік тому +1

    So with 43 525 RPM and finally gear with rayon to 2cm we have ((43525(2pi))/100)*60*3.6 ≈ 590 000 km/h ≈ 367 000 mph ≈ 1/500 of celerity.

  • @nikolus24
    @nikolus24 10 місяців тому

    Im pretty sure your power supply is the limiting factor. The motor can pull way more then the supply can well supply.

  • @josephroche9311
    @josephroche9311 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the video. Would it help to add wheel bearings (e.g., 608 bearing) to reduce friction from the axle. Also, I would be super grateful if you may please let me know how I may get the STL/other 3D printing files for your gear designs. Thank you!

  • @slapyomommahard
    @slapyomommahard 5 місяців тому +2

    If it could hold the weight of a car and still go the same rpm, that car would theoretically move at exactly 3,730.71428576 MPH

  • @EpicToadRage
    @EpicToadRage Рік тому +1

    Why not use skateboard bearings to reduce friction?

  • @sajidmohammad3190
    @sajidmohammad3190 Рік тому +1

    Increase power handling capability of your electric source and and speed controller.

  • @mrrp_mrowp
    @mrrp_mrowp 5 місяців тому

    this is the offical release of the video 2 min ago, the comments 9 months ago was group members n stuff

  • @Rvqvr
    @Rvqvr 3 місяці тому

    were getting energy before solar flare!!

  • @aleksije21feb
    @aleksije21feb Рік тому

    Keep it up, I learned everything about gears all thanks to YOU !!! Greetings from Balkans

  • @kenanderson2002
    @kenanderson2002 6 місяців тому

    put a propeller on the end and see how much air it blows

  • @SKORPION0
    @SKORPION0 8 місяців тому

    Give us the max speed man

  • @alexanderrog9940
    @alexanderrog9940 Рік тому +3

    very interesting video! thanks a lot for all your videos!
    I have one question. with no gears the motor spins with 3300 rpm , and with the load of the gears at the end it spins with 3482 rpm? Am i missing something?

    • @Lucas_sGarage
      @Lucas_sGarage Рік тому

      my guess is that the long tape at the beginning was tricking the tachometer

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  • @RCboii1
    @RCboii1 3 місяці тому

    The reason why it cuts off is because the power supply that you are using does not supply enough amps

  • @HypersonicMissile77
    @HypersonicMissile77 5 місяців тому

    That is the exact same motor as my go cart

  • @manoyjayme8633
    @manoyjayme8633 10 місяців тому

    Try doing it directly, remove those 3 gears in the middle, it will be much faster.

  • @saber-dragon4292
    @saber-dragon4292 Рік тому

    Imagine putting this in a ebike

  • @MrKornnugget
    @MrKornnugget Рік тому +2

    Need to invest in some good bearings.

  • @kishutissue
    @kishutissue 7 місяців тому

    You should attach a dynamo to the end and see it blow up!

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya Рік тому +4

    Maybe use ball bearings to help reduce friction

  • @gamingchannle681
    @gamingchannle681 Місяць тому

    Just connect a 85L supercharged v24 engine to the gearbox for a little bit of extra RPM