I can attest to myself that infact, the fresh and fit podcast was making my life worse, and I noticed that when I was subscribing to they're rhetoric that I was acting like an asshole towards my then girlfriend and after I stopped watching them things got better and now she's my wife.
@@AccountabilityPill “simp again” nigga get a life, telling this dude the reason they got married was because he was toxic? Why you like this? Is it cause your daddy left to get milk and never came back cause their marriage was toxic?
@@tukuhauaitu8296 I hate to agree with him, but he does have a point. He needed to show her that he doesn't take any bs for her to actually take him serious. Now that she knows, he can treat her nicely without having to fear her disrespecting him. It's weird but, it works
@@JK-ci3yu you would call that a toxic relationship. You don’t treat a woman or anyone matter of fact like shit so they stay with you, nigga that’s toxic and unhealthy and you need help.
@@JK-ci3yu you talk about her like she was the one being an asshole when he clearly said he was the one being an asshole. So basically there is no way a woman can ever be in the right and its always her fault even after shes the victim. And no i doubt she stayed cuz he was being an asshole, she stayed cuz he changed and she knew that she needed to have patience
Crazy for me, is that they bring these women on, and then expect them to sit silently and be lectured. The girl said ‘your twisting her words’ and ‘why did you invite me here if we aren’t going to talk’ and got booted. Like they just want their egos stroked.
She just said a bunch of bullshit when she went back. Go watch that entire podcast she had plenty of chances to talk and was over powering the other girls. It was after 2 hours that Myron said that for the 5th-6th time to chill out.
They give dating advice, but I couldn't imagine either of them being in an actual healthy, loving, meaningful relationship with someone they would call a "high value woman"
And they aren’t! When one of them was, it was very telling his “gf” was really a sugar baby. They don’t seem to have the potential or experience to pull genuine women that like them and have genuine intentions. To me, that reason is because they don’t attract genuine women.
They do that on purpose because they don't want to bring women who can actually challenge their ideas, they want lower IQ girls who can make them look smart & feel justified for kicking them out for their fans satisfaction.
Yeah, folks that use the terms “alpha” and “beta” only show their own insecurity. Same goes with “high value”. Wtf does that even mean? High value to who and how?
@@Minotaur-ey2lg at first I used to think high value person was someone with good family values 🤣 thanks to these fools fresh and fit I figured it means the shallow stuff like guys who make no less than $300k+ lol
I'd have to disagree a little bit here. It's not a bad thing we have "packages" of ideals wrapped up in a bundle with a name. Gives us some basis for comparison... do you like this "alpha" business? Does the "sigma" mindset appeal to you? Every person doesn't create himself and his aspirations from scratch; we build off the work of others who have put thought and energy into thinking about what people should strive for. You may not like one or another of these ideals, but it's worth noting that they're popular enough to have a following.
@@hoi-polloi1863 Hard disagree. It doesn't matter what following these ideals have lol. Maybe get off social media and stop focusing on which ideals have more of a following, and start living how you want to live with ideals that YOU believe in. The world doesn't operate like social media. You can believe in whatever you want, but at the end of the day, the more you stop trying to be what everyone wants you to be and stop trying to appeal to certain categories of people, the happier you'll be. Social media is toxic when you wrap yourself too much into it. "Every person doesn't create himself and his aspirations from scratch; we build off the work of others who have put thought and energy into thinking about what people should strive for." If you're trying to live to be someone else, you're missing the point of life. Do you. Isn't that the point of living? Why are you living to categorize yourself with something that isn't you?
The way my father raised me, a key part of masculinity is controlling your emotions and reamining calm under pressure, even when others are impassioned or unreasonable. How these dudes purport to help men be "alpha males" and then model this type of emotional, irrational behavior at the slightest irritation is beyond me.
@@RobinXlone nah you just a bird bruh. Y’all gotta learn how to fight, gain great paying employment and get some pussy. Too many women told you no and this is the result. Do better King.
I don’t like F and F but asking someone to stop talking multiple times and then asking them to leave isn’t that deep. Just cause we don’t like them don’t mean we gotta nit pick and every little thing.
Woman: articulates herself clearly, even though English is not her first language Misogynist: "Let me translate from womanese..." Proceeds to completely misintepret her and gets butthurt when he is called out.
@@eastwaters4082 Nobody needs to mention Myron being misogynist when his actions speaks for his character better than anyone else. Saying what a women said as "womanese" is inherently discriminating against women. She said everything in plain English but Myron somehow has to jump in to show that a woman can't even explain something, something which only will come from an underlying prejudice.
The crazy thing is if they were to actually bring on intelligent, modest, respectable and attractive women then the conversation still wouldn't be great because Myron will be defensive the entire time instead of trying to have open dialog like a normal person
The few times they have had older women or non IG OF girls on that’s pretty much what happened. That’s why they don’t do it any more. Not that I would know I stop giving them views a long time ago.
That's why I think they're gender bend version of SJW feminazis who are also ugly but have high standards when it comes to dating their opposite gender.
I used to think that an “alpha male” was someone composed, elegant in manners and how he treats others, with goals in life, etc. Alpha M transmitted this kind of definition to me; he tried to help dudes overcome their insecurities over their height and stuff, teach them how to dress, and other cool stuff. I don’t know when all this alpha stuff got so twisted that it’s now about dunking on women and trying to get a ‘gotcha!’ out of a interaction with them.
I also originally always thought that "alpha" meant someone who oozes non-chalant elegance! Now it just looks like little kids having a tantrum is alpha because ...???
@@DrBitchcraft. the term like many things has been subverted by the younger masses (30 and under and I'm included) so terms like sigma male have come along to replace them or the Chad archetype it used to be almost exclusively used to mock people like that however with incels and other groups started identifying with the doomer and other "nerdier" archetypes leading to the chad archetype to be seen as a traditional alpha archetype
God every time I see a clip of these guys talking to women I’m reminded of what the word misogyny actually means. It’s so weird how their attitude towards women specifically is so different. Not to mention that they clearly choose women who they believe are “dumb” or that they can make look dumb so that they appear superior. It’s disgusting
@@Gchildwarrior Untrained guest for a podcast is hell. You have to pay attention and be respectful. FreshandFit went too far with the disrespect of black woman in general, but kicking her out wasn’t too far she deserved to get kicked out for that behavior. She took what they said personal, but they were going off of their experiences with black woman and how it’s bad to date them a majority of the time. If she wants to be a host of a podcast, she better start her own like them instead of being a guest and ruining the show for clout.
@@OmnipotentSaiyan i get it but when she called him « mean as fuck » the convo didn’t have to escalate at ALL. He could have just chuckled and kept it pushing but he got rlly emotional so things got wayyy too heated, thus wasting time when it didn’t have to be that deep at all. They shouldn’t have been chatting on the side but there’s a way to tell ppl to be quiet respectfully which would lead to little or no conflict.
I followed Red Pill content and it was empowering at first but then it made me miserable. Beware of anger and rage masquerading as masculinity and virtue
The girl they kicked didn't even seem to be the stereotypical ig model, I liked the way she handled herself in that situation and definitely has more emotional intelligence and restraint than Alpha Myron 🤣
This has been my issue. He invites 10 girls, puts mics in front of them, feeds them alcohol, and expects them to be silent for half of the show while you scream random facts. If that was 10 guy's they'd be talking to purely out of bordem. Have 4-6 girls max and have actual conversations with them.
Facts. You wouldn't be able to get any 10 people - regardless of selection process, to sit in front of a mic while sipping heavy and then listen to these dudes without saying anything.
they all don't drink alcohol.. its offered...Their show is original, I fairly enjoy the laughs. So, don't hate on the platform, enjoy it, or don't watch.
Logistically, how do you have 10 people on a podcast and expect them all to contribute to the conversation without talking over each other. The women are clearly invited to be seen and not heard.
Actually, I have to disagree. They have a variety of women on the podcast. Lawyers, artists, feminists, onlyfans models, gamers. In my opinion when they have beyond 5 I think the quality goes down yes, however, I have watched some excellent episodes with great dialogue with 10 guests. It does happen. I think 5-7 is a better number. You would be shocked though. There have been some highly intelligent women come on, add great points to the discussion and get asked back and come back on. But I get why you would think that. Partially you are right though, it doesn't hurt to have eye candy as well.
Or you debate like ration humans and wait your turn rather than talking over each other. Idk mabey as their on one topic you sit quietly and when someone's done just politely raise your hand or ask if you can express your thoughts when someone is done. Rather than just talk over, scream into the mic and blabber on. But that would depend on the individual and if their respectful enough not to have side conversation or interupt hence the rules they tried to set. Wow!
It’s MUCH HARDER to have people contribute if you don’t enforce rules about side conversations during the podcast! They WERE trying to enforce the rules tho… and here we are 😂
Mainstream's idea of an alpha male and my idea of an alpha male are different. My father was an alpha male. Everyone stopped to pay attention when he walked into a room. Everyone liked him. Not because he was a people pleaser, but because everyone respected him. He never put others down, was kind and giving, but had a backbone when it was needed.
My father is who I think of as well when people say alpha male. He's not boisterous, but confident in the fact that he knows where he belongs. Doesn't care if other men make fun of him for not getting drunk, for taking my mother's wishes into consideration, and when he took turns caring for me when my mom couldn't. My dad would chase off boys like Fresh and Fit lol, even if he has to chase them off using a walker. 😁❤
Man using dudes bald spot for the advert read was ruthless as hell. How can’t you love these guys? They are genuine and try to be sincere while also keeping accountability of their own conversations. Not only will they break down toxicity or wild shit, but they will also try to learn and acknowledge things they’ve said as well.
It was hilariously savage. I wouldn't had laughed so hard if Mylon wasn't a jerk... as a South Floridian, I feel embarrassed to share the same county and district. 😱😓
Bruh Aba really roasted both of the Twin Sisters lmao, Fit as a segue to sponsorship, and then Fresh to get back to the content. That's poetic, exactly what i needed to wrap up my day.
He WANTS to beef with these women! It’s a calculated setup for him to flex his attitude on them. It’s not about the behavior of his guests, it’s the predictable actions of the host 🙄
@@richspeck8932 To be honest his talking points are not his issue, it's his massive fragile ego and him constantly losing his shit as well as his lack of integrity
@@richspeck8932 Just rewatching that clip with aba, the girl says "I don't mind leaving." in a calm tone and they respond with "Get the fuck out! Get out", a completely unnecessary and desperate escalation of the situation . The girl said she did not mind leaving and they could have just let her leave but felt the need to forcibly establish dominance over a whole lot of nothing. So fragile.
My dad used to say "respect isn't given, it is earned". People might fear you because you have power, but fear is not respect. Why would these girls "respect" them or their show when F&F don't respect themselves? They lie all the time, for starters. I wish men would quit giving these losers money. They aren't teaching anything you couldn't already find on the internet.
Men have fallen for the “all girls are the same” and “get chicks” nonsense. And it makes them feel as if their masculinity lies in whore-mongering. That is why they watch these guys. You’ll never see a high value man watch this crap. Because a high value man isn’t interested in “bodies” but in a partner worthy of his time. A high value woman. Low value men, such as F&F are basing their value on women and how they can not only disrespect, but bag them. Your dad is high value. A man who built a family and secured his lineage. A man who made great sacrifices for important things. These men aren’t like your dad
@@clementine7655 yeah don't get caught up having sex with randoms just for body count and ego. It sounds cool yet it's a waste of time. Wasted energy, brings fatigue, headaches etc. I'm not saying don't go eventually have sex once in a while but don't go being a slave to your pleasures.
@@mgbm8335 I’m a wait till marriage person so I’m not worried about it. Literally sex, imo, with anyone other than at LEAST a gf/bf is a waste of time and risk to me
I had a colleague who went into a heated argument about how to grow MY hair faster.He was very anoying, cuting me off all the time,repeating the same thing...When he pissed me off i just said: I only take advice from ppl who can show up results...and that was the moment when he realised he is bald.(My hair is over waistline btw).
@@floatpool8307 mkay .glad to know your sense of humor is so boring you find me asking a question related to her comment so funny. Feel free to screenshot it even. Enjoy.
As a Christian, I pray to God to show me what it means to be a man. This is one example I'll use so I don't follow this behavior. God, help me to see through false prophets.
"I don't think that is what she said." (defending a girl who was getting talked over) "Stop cutting me off!" "Are you mad?" "No!🧢😡" Fit's angry face killed me, he looked like his eye was about to twitch. lol
Myron is the kind of guy who has never had success over women and the podcast gives him all the power and when he forces them out he gets that gratification which he never had
Tbh Asian is a “hood chick” saying someone is mean is more of a playful thing than calling out his character. Fit or whatever took it as an attack on his “authority” when it could’ve actually become a lighthearted playful moment of course of course he would have to understand women and have some sort of charisma to pull that off .
@@yaboyreflex1919 Defend being called "mean"? Again it was playful, but you'd have to actually have experience with women to know that. The way he reacted was irrational and emotional. You are just as delusional and beta as he is.
@@fatib3200 he didn't get upset he simply stated why he isn't mean. Which he isn't your on his show he had being saying no side conversations the entire podcast and Asian doll came late and got mad because he said it's his show which it is. Y'all weird only wanna see facts when your fav Yt MAKES up facts when u got proof right in your face
I have never personally watched a Fresh & Fit podcast all the way through; however, what I have seen just makes me cringe. I find it comical as well that they invite all of these 'clout-chasing' Instagram models onto their forum solely on the pretense of their looks & often simply to degrade them for views. So in essence, they are proportionally monopolizing off of these women because their other content is simply inadequate. These women are NOT the standard of modern women today and this podcast is harmful/toxic to BOTH men and women alike. I would love to see these two invite a woman onto their podcast with substance and little or no social media presence and see how their 'alpha male' dynamic begins to crumble. Also, why do they always have to slide in how people are jealous of them and want to be like them? If you have to constantly vocalize that, I have to wonder whether you're trying to convince me or yourself. Confidence and silent. Insecurities are loud. I hope these men reach puberty at some point in their careers because right now it just looks like someone gave two toddlers some microphones and a bunch of camera equipment.
They talk about High value men and women yet get no one who fits that description on there channel, it’s full of ratchet looking women or immature men.
How to spot a fake “alpha male” anytime they feel like they can or should make people feel like shit or put people beneath them. If you’re a true Alpha then you lead people by example, you help build them up and not rip the down. When did being an alpha and being a bully become the same thing. Being an alpha means you build the path so people can come behind you. Not burn the bridges so you can be alone. Love the work Aba and Preach keep it up!
Not to be rude but alpha or leader is not what u thought since day one being an alpha is being fake. Hell even i thought the same thing for longest time but when u get a trade in business technology. They tell you alpha is the worse way to go bcuz its proven in the business world theyre all bark n no bite.
I can't stand all of that alpha and beta bullshit. I have my own mind. People are people. Either you're a good person who does what they're supposed to do or you aren't. Either your character is in tact or it's not.
I think the girl who was like "I'm happy to leave if I'm not allowed to talk" is a legitimate strong empowered female...and she was fine as fuck too. Who was she? I must know.
@@TheJJMonsta whether or not she "for the streets" is irrelevant...I'm not simpin tho I would def smash. My point is that she was responding, and being calm and eloquent. Her hoe status isn't the issue.
Fit looks so insecure. My guess is that he was the guy who was pushed around by ladies and started working out and adopted a rude and aggressive attitude towards women to change. He is so bitter about how he was treated in the past its almost like he wants revenge(hence the whole "we kicked these racket bitches out" motif). Like, he tries so hard to come off as a "true alpha male", by just shitting on women and saying those disgusting things to Preach, that it's sad.
When men get pussy every week and you dont and people laugh at you, and you even get bullied by ugly women. At some point you will break. And i am glad he got his act together. And pump and dumps these thots. Nothing is as sweet as revenge.
@@piraat070got his act together? He reeks of insecurity and tries so hard to look intimidating but backs up last moment. He claims to be alpha and a leader, yet he cant even compose himself when someone questions him. Also revenge? My god you need some help if you think making others suffer just as you suffered will make you happy in life.
What's interesting is both fish and fraud display a lot of narcissist traits. The underlying insecurity, the desperate need for validation, the narcissistic rage and gaslighting...
Been saying they were frauds for months now. Myron has always had the attitude of a petulant spoiled child who has no ability to convey his thoughts or ideas without having the perfect g setting/atmosphere. The instant his protected bubble of manufactured self confidence gets dinged, he freaks out. It's as if he immediately worries whether the world will question his manhood so he has to "violently" try and regain whatever perceived position he had prior to someone disagreeing with him.
@@revolverocelot1919 I hear you, but it's a podcast with 8+ people on at the same time who all have something to say. A little bit of interjection and harmless interruption is gonna happen. She didn't even seem aggressive or overtly loud in the clip to me 🤷🏿♂️
@@revolverocelot1919 how many is several? Because in the clip he mentions twice. Unless it's been less than an hour I wouldn't call that 'several'. That aside, Myron doesn't have that same energy for male guests despite interruptions by them. Has he ever asked a male guest to stop interrupting him after they have? I don't follow these guys so idk
@@DrAlchem01 lol!!! Watch the whole video before you start complaining !!! There are episodes where Myron has kicked off male guest for several reasons…he doesn’t treat the men different you goober…..but your bias is showing.
Maybe Preach is right. It's about the flashiness. It is boring to simply ask a happily married couple (10yrs +) to talk about what makes a healthy relationship and maintaining ones identity while in a relationship advice but a wildly single person who is caught in perpetual dating, hook-ups or divorced is interesting and entertaining. Sometimes the most truthful and helpful stuff is boring and not instant; the cure for overcoming that is self determination, time, and an attention span longer than a 15 second tiktok.
I've been viewing the manosphere for 5+ years and in the last year or so it has gotten VERY toxic especially against black women so im glad you guys are putting F&F on blast and holding them and their influence on their audience accountable
I don't watch any redpil nonsense anymore . We used to be children having fun. How tf did we end up in this adult world with also this nonsense . The devil controls your phone and social media so be carefull what u feed urself
@@riasilva4579 true I've watched for months and started liking gossip. I shamed women online and acted like kevin samuals with all this data. All this men vs women war made me lose my brain cells and it became boring I"m a handsome 6'1 men And I always got compliments from girls treating me with love. I got many options to date So I don't even need that stuff I used it as boredom or escape my tought from my trauma. But now looking at it whenever I see people talk about genders on tiktok etc I keep scroll it away or remove it. Looking at it back I see how many people are desperate tbh. This stuff is damaging our mentall health and is deviding our community
"You mad that you aint kickin out ratchet women everyday!" Ratchet women were doing their own thing away from you and you got them on your show and getting mad that they ratchet. This whole thing is a grift. They are out here to validate insecure and angry men who think that all women are hoes by bring on exactly the type of women they think all women are. Even if only 1% of women are like that, that's still a lifetime worth of women for the show. Confirmation bias confirmed
So wait are you saying not all women are dumb bimbos who only care about money and shit? Next thing you'll know you are going to tell me there isn't an evil plot by the people in the shadows because life is ultimately boring as fuck.
@@TyonKree He never said that bimbos don't exist. He stated that Ratched women were being Ratched on their own. Myron went out of his way despite the hate he has for them. He decided to drag them into his show just so that he can Express his hatred for them.
@@TyonKree i know you are being sarcastic but socio bubbles are real man. i have met good people who live in their own bubble and think things and people are a certain way. a lot of people are conditioned to be slaves to their bubble since they are kids too
They won't stop inviting these type of women onto their platform bc this is exactly the type of reactions they want. It probably won't change until someone actually gets hurt or worse on their show, which I could definently see them using for even more exposure.
Asian Doll did better than I thought. She easily could've had them hemmed up, but she got up and left instead. She did say she'd get her crew after them tho.
@@lavonnealexander6936 I'm not a fan of Fresh and Fit at all, but if she is going to do that then it may not end up well for her. They could easily call the police on her tbh.
Facts, I don't ever want to be called king tbh because i don't need my ego boosted. I'm secure in myself and whenever someone calls me that i correct them accordingly. I'm just a man. Calling yourself king is especially weird. Like who is he trying to convince?
It's ironic because I've never met any of these "manosphere" men in real life. I see all of these comments projecting their stereotypes about Black American women but I've never heard any man talk like this in real life. Yall can't even pick our "make believe" struggle... Either we're ratchet and ghetto, or highly educated but can't keep a man because of our ego. In my family (my generation), all of the women are married with no kids out of wedlock. I'm from the south side of Chicago and our men aint perfect by no means, but they don't behave like this. Heterosexual black men with southern roots don't think like this... Thank God!
@@2crisp63 Gotta disagree on that one lol. What FnF did was embarrassing because they typically have good truth in what they say but they let their emotions get them here and I was never a big fan of them I just acknowledge that they mostly speak the truth. Cardi B and other gangsta rap/pop artists are always saying dumb shit and have much more influence. The reason the FnF podcast is not good is because of the Cardi B like women they bring on the show. There's no good women they bring on. Maybe one decent women once in a blue out of the masses they've brought on.
Asian Doll deals with shooters. I know they got rules for their show.. However, he needs to tread lightly with some of these women. You don't know how they are mentally or who tf they know. This could have turned out bad.. Edit: Myron suffers from not getting his ass whooped at any point in his life, and I say this because you have to be careful how you address situations.
I think the most Alpha or Masculine thing we can do as men is control ourselves. Controlled chaos. “Don’t ever let anyone else control you or your reactions. No one should ever be able to make you step outside of your “box””. -my father to me growing up.
They invite women on their platform that they don’t respect then lecture them with dating analytics on why men don’t want them and cry when the tables are turned on them.
We live in America where if you tell women to be accountable for their actions you will get labeled a misogynist. No wonder women are hustling dudes out here everyday. There’s a reason why these red pill content creators tell dudes to work on themselves and be careful with certain type of women, if you attack fresh and fit y’all might as well attack Kevin Samuels and the others. And when these dudes show statistics on the current dating game today. When you have 70-80% divorce rates initiated by women,Women addicted to Social Media, OnlyFans/Snapchat premiums,Women wanting to abuse the court system on thousands of men everyday,Women making fun of men looks and height, False charges on men,All of a sudden it’s a problem when you have conversations with many women about the situation that’s going on today. That is why men are not dealing with majority of the Western women. The truth hurts but it’s just facts.💯🤷🏻♂️
You know what I really appreciate about you guys? You're funny and authentic. Authenticity is awesome and y'all's personality is so refreshing BUT what sets you apart in my opinion is that you're always respectable along the way. Many people sell out or fake the funk to get by but this is something that will never get old....... Lol Preach, I'd see you live for stand up if I could you're hilarious bro. 😋🤙🏽
Truth. These guys are respectable and open minded. They criticize bad behavior on both sides. Also, they actually have successful relationships. FnF don't seem to even have a desire for that. Just to smash hoes then demean them for being hoes because it's easy for a girl to be a hoe and hard for a guy, which apparently makes it morally justifiable. Most guys actually want a good woman to commit to. They are just encouraging the breakdown of families. You can't go criticizing women for being single moms cause they chose bad dudes while basically encouraging every guy to be one of those dudes.
Their show is fueled by so much hate towards women. Which is even worse in comments. They show no respect so they shouldn't expect it back. I'm glad you guys call it out
Thank You FINALLY!! Someone says it on UA-cam. F&F never allow a well-headed and leveled, pretty woman on their show. I've seen women (very few) break down F&F whole premise. Myron -ofcourse- gets upset and says "Why you disrespectful?" .... F&F are disingenuous, insecure, ignorant, petty. They have an incredible opportunity to make real conversation BUT they choose to be cornballs...they whack.!! I would love to see all of the guests walk out altogether.
They definitely do that on purpose. Not saying that the women that they invite are stupid, but they purposely invite the same type of women because they are afraid that if they invite a different type they will lose the argument. They like the power.
You can be a model and have character . You can be unattractive and have no character. Character is independent trait born from integrity and action that one takes to assume that a model who is attractive will be lacking in character shows bias . I believe in you give people the benefit of the doubt first and let them prove who they are on what they actually do . The kicking the guests off the show brings in money and revenue for their channel that’s why they do it - because the audience supports it
IG "models" and models are in different universes. some people live their life obsessively shooting selfies and advertizing crap consumer goods, not only for money but also because they are insecure as hell and require a constant stream of attention from strangers to survive the day. can they have character, wit, actual skills, education, hobbies and some self-respect? yes. is it likely though?
It really sucks. When i found FnF i really thought men had an outlet to express our problems with dating. They really are the Jerry Springer of mens issues and I’m glad i left them alone
That guy just comes across as a massive misogynist. First he puts words in her mouth and when she tries to correct him he throws a tantrum about her cutting him off. I get this “I bought you on here to look pretty and not to voice an opinion, so get back in your box” vibes from this guy.
Look up the definition of misogynist. It means you HATE women. Freshnfit would never have any women on the show if they HATED women. You sound like a gutless coward d riding on the wave of hate for Freshnfit by the politically correct clown world we live in. Imagine being butt hurt about a dudes sexual preference 😂😂😂. Keep whining and crying like a little girl. You’re such a coward you disabled the feature for people to @ you 🤡🤡🤡.
@@AuschwitzMyPants did you really just accuse them of d riding and calling them a clown while getting severely but hurt that someone criticized fnf? Dude you sound like a d riding clown lol. If you can't see they do some shady shiz that needs to be called out, then you got issues mate. I'm not saying they're like onision or anything, but they sure aren't the saints their fan boys are trying to make them out to be.
@@bamboobtchslap Hannibal Lector makes a point though.People really need stop acting like Fresh and Fit don’t hold men to standards as well and aren’t upfront about what they are and want.
@@Drago1467 There is a difference between holding someone to standards and be deliberately patronising towards a guest. When you invite someone on to your show they are a guest and therefore as their host you should treat them with respect and curtesy. When he said “let me translated that from womenese” what he is saying is: women are incapable of expressing themselves in a rational or logical way, therefore I am going to tell you what she meant to say. This is extremely patronising. When the women rightly stood up for herself and refused to sit there like a meek little lady. He threw a tantrum because how dare a women interrupt him while he insults and belittles her. This attitude of real men dominate women belongs in the Stone Age.
@@chelsea9641 Facts. I never understood why women would go on this show. I was on the Kevin Samuels show one night last year and he was very courteous. So a few nights later I jumped on to watch the show and the chat room kept egging me to call in, so I did. Samuels was menstruating that night and he gave me H3LL 🤣🤣🤣 Unsubbed and never went back. These women need some self-respect. I know that they do it for “the clout” but there’s not enough clout in the universe that’s worth this bs. Nah.
I think that if they were to have a respectable woman on the podcast they would absolutely bomb it, they would not know how to handle a woman like that. It might feel like a threat to their ego, so as long as they keep bringing “problematic” women on the show their ego stays intact and fed. 🤷🏻♀️
@@bootlegtim7216 let’s be real, are the people tuning in for those rare livestreams, if they even happen that often? no, y’all (their viewers) like the belligerent content
I find it hilarious that as soon as the female guest start defending themselves and start debunking/challenge their bullshit they immediately start to crack and get defensive which leads to showing their true "beta" selves. Hilarious.
@@abzyman1 can you imagine their reactions if a solid woman with principles started dunkin' on their bullshit? I can almost guarantee that they'll either have a massive fit or go into a corner and start crying like babies.
They keep choosing the same type of woman so they can say, "See, this is how they ALL are". That, for me, signals weakness. If you can only prove your point by stacking the deck, your point was never that strong to begin with.
Not all but you could pull up tiktok and find so many videos of the nonsense going on especially the abuse of the family court system. I don't hate women but I may move to another country with a better court system.
😂😂😂 I like y’all. The transition into the promo had me in literal tears 😭. You brought up an excellent point about them that I also mentioned about Kevin Samuels. Energy is everything. I notice men who claim to be high value or alpha male are in the presence of women with weird energy. The very women these men complain about are the same women they entertain. Truth is they secretly want different women but know they haven’t done the work they need to do as men to attract them. It will be interesting to see what becomes of their show. I also notice these men worry too much about women. Where are the podcast to help better men. There’s no diversity in the space for men. As a BW we have femininity spaces, boss girl spaces, cooking spaces, mom spaces and men don’t seem to have that same diversity. Do they even want it? Great video as always.
Woah Aba & Preach, making fun of someone's bald head for your sponsored video doesn't make you any different from F&F making fun of your overgrown bush and fat wife... I agree with you guys 95% of the time but you missed big on this one... I thought you guys were better but nah. That's very disappointing.
@@Waterbug1591 they already said they don’t care if you joke about each other they are comedians. But talking about someone’s wife is over the line. And they didn’t start joking about them till they crossed that line. Once you disrespect someone’s loved one don’t expect their respect for you to be the same
Let's be real, if there was a female version of Fresh&Fit and a bunch of men went on it to get clowned every week, we'd all know those men are bums just for showing up.
No the women that go on their podcast are idiots for going there. They are hungry for Instagram followers and the fact that they go on this podcast just shows their desperation
nah i would love to show up. thats free clout for what i got goin on. plus i ant even trying to go on to smash. i will let my homies handle that. its gonna be like back in highschool again. we in the same group project but i don’t rock wit none of you people💯💯💯😂😂🤣
These guys invite the same type of woman on the show every time because they are BEGGING for the drama. Their highest rated videos are almost always the one where they make some edgy clickbait title about the women they have to kick out. They live for the drama because it's what gets them views in the algorithm. Sure as hell isn't their "lifestyle advice," anyone who's been a normal and functioning member of society, i.e.: seen how real people interact in everyday life, knows their lifestyle and persona is all a front. And anyone who legit believes it, you're gonna have a rough few years lol. They live on the hype and shock, they're just UA-cam shock-jocks.
We really need to differentiate IG / onlyfans girls and ACTUAL MODELS ….it’s insulting to keep getting lumped in with these women …real models have far more class and intelligence and wouldn’t be caught dead on a show like Fake & Fraud.
Just because they’re on different platforms doesn’t mean they are lesser. Check your misogyny. It’s ironic that you’re making this “differentiation” yet talking about “class and intelligence.” ☠️
@@GretchenV95 They simply don’t do what actual models do they are 2 different categories and in the industry they are definitely seen as lesser, just telling you the facts , fashion designers are not interested in booking OF girls for major campaigns.
Naomi Campbell was notoriously abusive to her staff. Walking down runways in Europe don't make you classy or intelligent. I'm sure you can find plenty of real models that are complete morons and IG chicks who are very smart just as you can the opposite
@@GretchenV95there is a clear distinction between ig/onlyfans models and real models. it is not misogyny to point that out. even the irony you pointed out makes no sense and is not creditable 😢
Yeah I only watch them for that reason, not gonna lie to you. I don’t really take their advice seriously, while some of it may be true, not all of it is meant to be internalized and added into my daily life. It’s not that deep.
Both actually. If the viewers love it, they'll love doing it again. The only episode I watched from beginning to the end were the episodes where they brought in the lawyer couples.
"Alpha" was a made up concept anyways. Wolves in the wild don't have that. The wolf pack consists of two parents and their children... eventually these kids set out to find another pack, find a mate and form their own pack separately. Orcas have similar dynamics... the pods are mainly run by females, their children, and grandchildren and in one case scientists found some females are even great grandmother helping raising these grand-babies.
After that incident where that dude pulled up to their spot to fight, that should’ve been a sign to start hosting your podcast in a separate location & NOT your home.
@@RobinXlone what’s your point? A dude still pulled up ready on some violent shit. Stop defending these dudes in any capacity. You’re not a dumb person and I won’t call you one for defending them or being more so on your side. Sometimes though you gotta pick your battles correctly and realize what’s worth fighting for. They ain’t it. Do better.
We live in America where if you tell women to be accountable for their actions you will get labeled a misogynist. No wonder women are hustling dudes out here everyday. There’s a reason why these red pill content creators tell dudes to work on themselves and be careful with certain type of women, if you attack fresh and fit y’all might as well attack Kevin Samuels and the others. And when these dudes show statistics on the current dating game today. When you have 70-80% divorce rates initiated by women,Women addicted to Social Media, OnlyFans/Snapchat premiums,Women wanting to abuse the court system on thousands of men everyday,Women making fun of men looks and height, False charges on men,All of a sudden it’s a problem when you have conversations with many women about the situation that’s going on today. That is why men are not dealing with majority of the Western women. The truth hurts but it’s just facts.💯🤷🏻♂️
Back in old days people like F&F were simply called CLOWNS 🤡 .. And that bit about teaching people this and that was cringe... This whole compilation just showed how insecure and immature they are.. Women kept rejecting me so imma start juicing and make a podcast and invite 20 chicks because im natural alpha male so i can assert my dominance by randomly kicking people out 🤔
Right you can clearly tell fresh and fit were the dudes at their highschool who idolized the jocks and guys who got lots of females and they then got bitter and jealous and never let that stuff go
Can't believe that at some point in my life, I was a fan of their's....... Thank GOD it only lasted 3 weeks, since they bored me out FAR before the drama started, bullet dodged tbh.
Same lol exactly same im so ashamed of myself for liking these frauds especially fresh. i agree with like 40% of what they say but that other 60% is fucking way off.
Alpha’s exert their power in silence. They don’t need to be catty, emotionally and bully like. You can tell Myron has no game. He uses his strict demeanor to hide his social awkwardness. He doesn’t know how to interact with women. He has a hard time navigating situations. A cool man would have laughed off the “ mean” comment. Insert something friendly or flirty to try to change the mood. Instead he gets defensive and uses his platform to control and bully. He doesn’t know how to deescalate a situation. The boy gotta get over his childhood.
Listen... Not when youve been nice for 2 hours. I'm sorry after the 6th time imma kick you out. Now the Asian doll chick was cursing under her breath and saying all sorts of stuff.. the audience can hear her. The clip aba and preach showed didn't show Asian doll cursing first nor did it show the countless times the fit dude said.. please please hold down the side conversations, you will get a turn. The girl was admittedly snorting cocaine before she got there and drinking before she got there. I don't take up for rachet people ever.. now his corny ass talking about his dating preference is another issue completely
We women can pick up on insecure, little boys like him! I don’t know how the women in the group can keep a straight face every time he chucks a tanty! 😂🤣🤣
That’s statistically not true. Women on average are attracted to men with dark triad (psychopathy, narcissism and machiavellianism) traits than men without. Strange but true.
Myron talks to these women with hostility in his voice. And these women sense that that's why they come at him. They're grown ass adults not children, they're not just gonna let some random dude talk to them like that. And him and his defenders will say the way you say things doesn't matter when thags not true. They way you say something shows the intent behind why you're saying it.
FnF reminds me of some high school kid dunking on pre school kids using that fissure price net. These girls can barely put together an argument let alone when they do Myron just riles them up emotionally or just dismisses their points with some shitty gloss over. Petty Aba is the hero we need during these trying times.
This whole debacle reminds me of the maxim 'Never interrupt your enemy whilst they're making a mistake'. My hope is that people like these and Jack Murphy don't stop the genuine work that gets done to help men find themselves and their authenticity.
Don't worry, they wont. In the market place of ideas, the truth and best ideas always rises to the top eventually. The good advice will always grow and spread.
These "people" are frauds that are doing men more harm than good. Snake oil salesmen infested the manosphere not long after it was put together and it's been that way for a very long time. The more their exposed the better it will be for men to swift through the frauds and find the few that genuinely can help them.
Come on, you know they deliberately throw women off the show to say, "Look at me! I'm an alpha male!" They are such snowflakes that they are triggered over petty things like being interrupted and have to boost their egos this way!
I think their best podcasts were when Aba and the Rommates were invited. You can clearly see when someone is trying to make interesting conversaion vs the hosts that just want to get into kicking out girls because they know that's where the money is. Nice ad!!
This topic Aba talked about is exactly what I felt regarding the Jack Murphy anger with Sydney Watson. It was ironic to see a man guru who markets making good men, lose his temper so swiftly. The outburst with Sydney appeared totally unwarranted based off how things unfolded. But then he later talked so calmly with another man about the same topic. It was only with a woman that he had an outburst with.
@@Orapac4142 Murphy is a normal guest on Timcast and is a straight creep. Anyway having a lie of a story about how he apologized to Sydney and had drinks That that other guy “clearing the air” Tim pool let that happen and made no further comment on someone who claim to be a journalist and all for free media he’s covering this story just like msnbc or cnn would his live chats are hilarious!! Fans aren’t letting it go because Tim belittled them and filtered a lot of SUPERCHATS
Wow. That was straight mansplaining though. The lady said what she said and then he went "let me translate that womanese for you..." like sir, let them say what they're saying and mean what they're saying. It really seemed like he was nervous that viewers would actually think she made a point and you can't have that on their show.
The fact that the whole Alpha, Beta thing came from research on wolves that was debunked by the guy who did the initial research really puts this into perspective lmao
That doesn't change the fact that people behave and live within the context of social hierarchy. Regardless of what you call it, in MANY scenarios there is a person in charge who others defer to
The funniest shit about the Alpha thing. The Alpha wolf was a female wolf 😂 it just cracks me up everytime when someone say they are Alpha I ask them "so you are a female then?" 😂😂
Can we just admit that they (possibly subconciously) do it intentionally to feel powerful? There's always a power dynamic between men and women, that's why a lot of relationships are so toxic...That's what this boils down to. They choose these low class women so they can exert some modicum of fictional power over them to massage their egos. Even the layout of the show is intentional...Their guests are trapped between them and the wall/table. It prevents people from just getting up and walking away without making an exceptionally desparate looking scene. It also puts the guests center camara while FNF themselves are pretty much hiding off to the side. Literally everything about their show is a psychological game intended to make them feel better about themselves. Also, that was the best sponser ad I've ever seen.
You just put my thoughts into words. This dudes can't have any type of bond with a woman if they ain't "submissive". They try to find easy targets and degrade women.
There's always a power dynamic between people, not just men and women. It's just more noticeable between men and women because of our clear physical differences and why people gravitate easily to this recognition. If there were just men and no women in this world (just suspend reality for a few minutes), then fresh and fit would be doing this alpha behavior onto other men just to feel more important than anybody else. With clear physical differences between men, Fresh and Fit would not last long with their mouth running the way it does with men bigger than them, however they would be using this tactic on men smaller than them.
I started watching Aba and preach when I was about 15 summer after my freshman year. The way they take a step back and look at everything and give such a calm well thought out viewpoint has been a great example to me and helped me grow as a young man. It seems corny but I truly believe these guys do help lead either young, or misguided men. I hope you guys keep up the great work.
It's really not "alpha" to call yourself alpha. Idk it's like that person needs a label to make them feel confident but a confident person doesn't need that. People calling themselves alpha is similar to a person saying "I'm an empath" or "I'm a good person". A good person or an empath doesn't need to say what they are, they show it.
I think these days a lot of people just need labels to identify themselfs. I know who I am. I dont need labels that tell me who I am. People are just so lost these days with low self esteem and so much image struggles it baffles me honestly
9:49 I don't think people are now realising the "alphas" are frauds, I think it's more like what it means to be "alpha" or "high value" is slowly but steadily changing. The idea of hot headed assholes who flaunt their power and insults any chance they get is starting to get old, and ideas like humility, respect, wisdom are starting to get the recognition they deserve alongside the already appreciated qualities of confidence and assertiveness. Your channel is doing great work moving us toward that shift and I appreciate that, guys.
I would argue this has been the case because the latter views are timeless. Media is distorting traditional values for commercial gain and this is taxing for the uneducated observer.
I love how the man told Myron , nah she ain’t leaving, *crickets * . He didn’t say shit to that man. He’s a coward who gets off on intimidating women to make himself feel superior. He’d never be able to stand up to another man
@@Vuirotto Your comment is a perfect example of why, I respect these guys. They don't try and change the context of the discussion to meet their needs. I never spoke to motive: my comment was purely about how they approach supporting their argument. It wasn't purely about F&F but how they conduct business in general. If you feel a way about their motive, that's fine but it in no way negates my comment. They are skilled debaters (period). You can debate an issue that you are passionate about and still employ critical thinking to get your point across. argument shouldn't be.
I agree. You know someone’s a good speaker if you don’t agree with everything they say but still want to listen to their insight. If you listen to F&F and then these two, they are far far more mature and intellectual. F&F is so cringe. They’re like little boys in 30 year old bodies and then wonder why quality women don’t want them LOL
I can attest to myself that infact, the fresh and fit podcast was making my life worse, and I noticed that when I was subscribing to they're rhetoric that I was acting like an asshole towards my then girlfriend and after I stopped watching them things got better and now she's my wife.
She's your wife because you did those things. Simp again and let's see how long you'll be married for lol
@@AccountabilityPill “simp again” nigga get a life, telling this dude the reason they got married was because he was toxic? Why you like this? Is it cause your daddy left to get milk and never came back cause their marriage was toxic?
@@tukuhauaitu8296 I hate to agree with him, but he does have a point. He needed to show her that he doesn't take any bs for her to actually take him serious. Now that she knows, he can treat her nicely without having to fear her disrespecting him. It's weird but, it works
@@JK-ci3yu you would call that a toxic relationship. You don’t treat a woman or anyone matter of fact like shit so they stay with you, nigga that’s toxic and unhealthy and you need help.
@@JK-ci3yu you talk about her like she was the one being an asshole when he clearly said he was the one being an asshole. So basically there is no way a woman can ever be in the right and its always her fault even after shes the victim.
And no i doubt she stayed cuz he was being an asshole, she stayed cuz he changed and she knew that she needed to have patience
Crazy for me, is that they bring these women on, and then expect them to sit silently and be lectured. The girl said ‘your twisting her words’ and ‘why did you invite me here if we aren’t going to talk’ and got booted. Like they just want their egos stroked.
Pretty much the standard mentality of insecure men.
She just said a bunch of bullshit when she went back. Go watch that entire podcast she had plenty of chances to talk and was over powering the other girls. It was after 2 hours that Myron said that for the 5th-6th time to chill out.
It's time the girls started going out in style.
@@mcbride991 bruh; stop it
@@mcbride991 So what he is a tool.
They give dating advice, but I couldn't imagine either of them being in an actual healthy, loving, meaningful relationship with someone they would call a "high value woman"
Myron’s response would be “there’s no such thing as a high value women” lmao
And they aren’t! When one of them was, it was very telling his “gf” was really a sugar baby. They don’t seem to have the potential or experience to pull genuine women that like them and have genuine intentions. To me, that reason is because they don’t attract genuine women.
the twin sisters dating advice is to pay to box or to clout on podcast to box, those virgin marys got less game than blizzard developers
@@colleenr3358 imagine your parents asking what your boyfriend does and showing them that podcast lmao
Well to be fair no one will be in a the type of relationship forever.
They do that on purpose because they don't want to bring women who can actually challenge their ideas, they want lower IQ girls who can make them look smart & feel justified for kicking them out for their fans satisfaction.
I doubt it.
EXACTLY
@@RealJayNice I don't, I highly think this is what they do.
no because any woman with iq would agree with them.
exactlyy!!! been thinking this
don’t be an alpha male, don’t be a sigma male, don’t be a beta male. be yourself. the less you try to categorize yourself, the better
Yeah, folks that use the terms “alpha” and “beta” only show their own insecurity. Same goes with “high value”. Wtf does that even mean? High value to who and how?
@@Minotaur-ey2lg at first I used to think high value person was someone with good family values 🤣 thanks to these fools fresh and fit I figured it means the shallow stuff like guys who make no less than $300k+ lol
The more those alpha bullshit terms are used, the more I hate them. They're so stupid and mean nothing.
I'd have to disagree a little bit here. It's not a bad thing we have "packages" of ideals wrapped up in a bundle with a name. Gives us some basis for comparison... do you like this "alpha" business? Does the "sigma" mindset appeal to you? Every person doesn't create himself and his aspirations from scratch; we build off the work of others who have put thought and energy into thinking about what people should strive for. You may not like one or another of these ideals, but it's worth noting that they're popular enough to have a following.
@@hoi-polloi1863 Hard disagree. It doesn't matter what following these ideals have lol. Maybe get off social media and stop focusing on which ideals have more of a following, and start living how you want to live with ideals that YOU believe in.
The world doesn't operate like social media.
You can believe in whatever you want, but at the end of the day, the more you stop trying to be what everyone wants you to be and stop trying to appeal to certain categories of people, the happier you'll be. Social media is toxic when you wrap yourself too much into it.
"Every person doesn't create himself and his aspirations from scratch; we build off the work of others who have put thought and energy into thinking about what people should strive for." If you're trying to live to be someone else, you're missing the point of life.
Do you. Isn't that the point of living? Why are you living to categorize yourself with something that isn't you?
I'll never understand how people see blatant insecurity/hate and somehow see "confidence/manliness"
Cause they're also insecure and hateful so they share those views with each other
Because people who are their fans are also operating from a space of rejection and hate
I’ve been saying the same thing since this started. These clowns are painfully insecure and don’t like women. Race aside, they don’t like women period
It’s because those people don’t understand what real confidence & masculinity is or what it looks like.
ask women lmaoooo
Bruh, the fact that Aba rolled in a solid roast of Myron during his sponsorship presentation is all I needed for my week to be complete! 🤣🤣🤣🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Now I want a smooth scalp just like Myron. I do! I really do!
Fake and Fraud are on the phone with their lawyers RIGHT NOW .. Lmao
He on a whole nother advertising level
And at the end "So you can actually look FRESH the camera pan 😂" Brah
@@Londonlink this took me out!!!!
The way my father raised me, a key part of masculinity is controlling your emotions and reamining calm under pressure, even when others are impassioned or unreasonable. How these dudes purport to help men be "alpha males" and then model this type of emotional, irrational behavior at the slightest irritation is beyond me.
man stop any alpha male or whatever u wanna call gonna get mad telling someone to shut up more than 5 times
@@RobinXlone nah you just a bird bruh. Y’all gotta learn how to fight, gain great paying employment and get some pussy. Too many women told you no and this is the result. Do better King.
@@RobinXlone bruh EVERYONE GETS MAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 dafuq are y’all on right now lmao
super emotional
I don’t like F and F but asking someone to stop talking multiple times and then asking them to leave isn’t that deep. Just cause we don’t like them don’t mean we gotta nit pick and every little thing.
Woman: articulates herself clearly, even though English is not her first language
Misogynist: "Let me translate from womanese..." Proceeds to completely misintepret her and gets butthurt when he is called out.
Yeah, none of your comment makes sense.
@Claudia Yeah...but it'd assume we're all watching FnF and that we know what the fuck episode he's talking about (or she).
@@eastwaters4082 Then maybe you should reread it again, because I understood @Raptoress.
@@summerrose8110 Where does it mention Myron being a misogynist? Do you even know the definition of that or are you parroting what people say?
@@eastwaters4082 Nobody needs to mention Myron being misogynist when his actions speaks for his character better than anyone else. Saying what a women said as "womanese" is inherently discriminating against women. She said everything in plain English but Myron somehow has to jump in to show that a woman can't even explain something, something which only will come from an underlying prejudice.
The crazy thing is if they were to actually bring on intelligent, modest, respectable and attractive women then the conversation still wouldn't be great because Myron will be defensive the entire time instead of trying to have open dialog like a normal person
The few times they have had older women or non IG OF girls on that’s pretty much what happened. That’s why they don’t do it any more. Not that I would know I stop giving them views a long time ago.
It’s a debate most of the time and if you can’t argue your point oh well get more informed
Show me a modest or respectable women in 2022
Then don’t watch simp
@@macktheripper7454 Foo, you know full well it's hard to find quality *people* in general. Don't be @-ing any ol group like that lol.
The audacity of them to judge ppl based on their looks when they look like THAT 😂💀im screaming
You just judged them bcuz they're clapped...
It’s always the weird lookin dudes lmao making their insecurities so obvious.
That's why I think they're gender bend version of SJW feminazis who are also ugly but have high standards when it comes to dating their opposite gender.
bro looks like humpty from digital underground
ALL the Red pill guys are ugly....Rollo, Rich, Fresh and Fit....
Nah the transition into the paid promo is smoother
Than Myron's bald spot?
😆🤣🤣
Facts
Smooth like your skin after using Tiege Hanley for a week.
Highlight of the video 😭
@@amiedaniel1591 that’s exactly what I was gonna say
I used to think that an “alpha male” was someone composed, elegant in manners and how he treats others, with goals in life, etc. Alpha M transmitted this kind of definition to me; he tried to help dudes overcome their insecurities over their height and stuff, teach them how to dress, and other cool stuff.
I don’t know when all this alpha stuff got so twisted that it’s now about dunking on women and trying to get a ‘gotcha!’ out of a interaction with them.
With everything in this society currently morphing into human psychosis, some are already there.
Damn alpha M was doing good this entire time
I always thought those Alpha beta thing were memes.
I also originally always thought that "alpha" meant someone who oozes non-chalant elegance!
Now it just looks like little kids having a tantrum is alpha because ...???
@@DrBitchcraft. the term like many things has been subverted by the younger masses (30 and under and I'm included) so terms like sigma male have come along to replace them or the Chad archetype it used to be almost exclusively used to mock people like that however with incels and other groups started identifying with the doomer and other "nerdier" archetypes leading to the chad archetype to be seen as a traditional alpha archetype
God every time I see a clip of these guys talking to women I’m reminded of what the word misogyny actually means. It’s so weird how their attitude towards women specifically is so different. Not to mention that they clearly choose women who they believe are “dumb” or that they can make look dumb so that they appear superior. It’s disgusting
💯
Plus, they have too many women at one time. Side conversations would go up with more people. You would think they would know better, but no
@@Gchildwarrior Untrained guest for a podcast is hell. You have to pay attention and be respectful. FreshandFit went too far with the disrespect of black woman in general, but kicking her out wasn’t too far she deserved to get kicked out for that behavior. She took what they said personal, but they were going off of their experiences with black woman and how it’s bad to date them a majority of the time.
If she wants to be a host of a podcast, she better start her own like them instead of being a guest and ruining the show for clout.
@@OmnipotentSaiyan i get it but when she called him « mean as fuck » the convo didn’t have to escalate at ALL. He could have just chuckled and kept it pushing but he got rlly emotional so things got wayyy too heated, thus wasting time when it didn’t have to be that deep at all. They shouldn’t have been chatting on the side but there’s a way to tell ppl to be quiet respectfully which would lead to little or no conflict.
muh misogyny
I followed Red Pill content and it was empowering at first but then it made me miserable. Beware of anger and rage masquerading as masculinity and virtue
Read the 5 stages of unplugging from the matrix by Rollo Tomassi
So you’re a sexist pos
Yeah and they project it on women
Same
@@natashaphilip6725 badly placed sarcasm.
The girl they kicked didn't even seem to be the stereotypical ig model, I liked the way she handled herself in that situation and definitely has more emotional intelligence and restraint than Alpha Myron 🤣
This has been my issue. He invites 10 girls, puts mics in front of them, feeds them alcohol, and expects them to be silent for half of the show while you scream random facts. If that was 10 guy's they'd be talking to purely out of bordem. Have 4-6 girls max and have actual conversations with them.
Facts. You wouldn't be able to get any 10 people - regardless of selection process, to sit in front of a mic while sipping heavy and then listen to these dudes without saying anything.
Feeds them alcohol? What?
He is idiot because people react differently to alcohol.
Not even random facts. Just random nonsense
they all don't drink alcohol.. its offered...Their show is original, I fairly enjoy the laughs.
So, don't hate on the platform, enjoy it, or don't watch.
Logistically, how do you have 10 people on a podcast and expect them all to contribute to the conversation without talking over each other. The women are clearly invited to be seen and not heard.
Actually, I have to disagree. They have a variety of women on the podcast. Lawyers, artists, feminists, onlyfans models, gamers. In my opinion when they have beyond 5 I think the quality goes down yes, however, I have watched some excellent episodes with great dialogue with 10 guests. It does happen. I think 5-7 is a better number. You would be shocked though. There have been some highly intelligent women come on, add great points to the discussion and get asked back and come back on. But I get why you would think that. Partially you are right though, it doesn't hurt to have eye candy as well.
Exactly. That's what happens in a conversation. People are supposed to interrupt each other.
Or you debate like ration humans and wait your turn rather than talking over each other. Idk mabey as their on one topic you sit quietly and when someone's done just politely raise your hand or ask if you can express your thoughts when someone is done.
Rather than just talk over, scream into the mic and blabber on. But that would depend on the individual and if their respectful enough not to have side conversation or interupt hence the rules they tried to set.
Wow!
It’s MUCH HARDER to have people contribute if you don’t enforce rules about side conversations during the podcast! They WERE trying to enforce the rules tho… and here we are 😂
@@thebxsavage exactly
Inviting people into your spot and then kicking them out angrily isn't going to end well. They have the address.
Also if it goes to court,level of agression they display will make their case weaker
💀💀💀💀💀💀
that being said.......
Bullets
His colleague chooses who comes. He doesn't meet them until they come on the show
Mainstream's idea of an alpha male and my idea of an alpha male are different. My father was an alpha male. Everyone stopped to pay attention when he walked into a room. Everyone liked him. Not because he was a people pleaser, but because everyone respected him. He never put others down, was kind and giving, but had a backbone when it was needed.
My father is who I think of as well when people say alpha male. He's not boisterous, but confident in the fact that he knows where he belongs. Doesn't care if other men make fun of him for not getting drunk, for taking my mother's wishes into consideration, and when he took turns caring for me when my mom couldn't. My dad would chase off boys like Fresh and Fit lol, even if he has to chase them off using a walker. 😁❤
Shout out to tiege hanley for letting aba say whatever he wants for their sponsorship that was hilarious 😂
Fam I fuckin CRIED!!!!!
Tiege Hanley actually works. Got me looking like Taye Diggs.
I'm still recovering... that shit killed me lol
That shit made me drop my joint😂😂😂 ABA wildin for that... If you're balding... That's tuff😂😂😂😂😂
It was incredible
Part of me wishes Fake and Fraud got their channel deleted. Other part is just sitting here with popcorn and wanting more. 🥴
How is this from an hour ago????
U ain’t the only one I’ll tell u that
@@cs.o6639 magic
We all want popcorn fam, share some.
@@cs.o6639 it was previewed an hour ago
Man using dudes bald spot for the advert read was ruthless as hell. How can’t you love these guys? They are genuine and try to be sincere while also keeping accountability of their own conversations. Not only will they break down toxicity or wild shit, but they will also try to learn and acknowledge things they’ve said as well.
It was hilariously savage. I wouldn't had laughed so hard if Mylon wasn't a jerk... as a South Floridian, I feel embarrassed to share the same county and district. 😱😓
@@LadyCoyKoi u should feel embarrassed about the idiotic women that live there.
Their hypocrites😂😂😂 When they get roasted they want an apology but they are roasting other people always even before F&F
@@ikilledthemoon simping for shiet CCs is next level delusion
Bruh Aba really roasted both of the Twin Sisters lmao, Fit as a segue to sponsorship, and then Fresh to get back to the content. That's poetic, exactly what i needed to wrap up my day.
the way he handled her "cutting him off" is so childish. There's a million ways to handle that without escalating stuff
He WANTS to beef with these women! It’s a calculated setup for him to flex his attitude on them. It’s not about the behavior of his guests, it’s the predictable actions of the host 🙄
Yes he is talking about triggering things like biology or mens preferences....the nerve....
@@Dreamdancer11 Probably one of the truest things I've read in this comment section
@@richspeck8932 To be honest his talking points are not his issue, it's his massive fragile ego and him constantly losing his shit as well as his lack of integrity
@@richspeck8932 Just rewatching that clip with aba, the girl says "I don't mind leaving." in a calm tone and they respond with "Get the fuck out! Get out", a completely unnecessary and desperate escalation of the situation . The girl said she did not mind leaving and they could have just let her leave but felt the need to forcibly establish dominance over a whole lot of nothing. So fragile.
I can only laugh at such puddles of men but they’re the types to get violent when called out.
My dad used to say "respect isn't given, it is earned". People might fear you because you have power, but fear is not respect. Why would these girls "respect" them or their show when F&F don't respect themselves? They lie all the time, for starters. I wish men would quit giving these losers money. They aren't teaching anything you couldn't already find on the internet.
Men have fallen for the “all girls are the same” and “get chicks” nonsense. And it makes them feel as if their masculinity lies in whore-mongering. That is why they watch these guys.
You’ll never see a high value man watch this crap. Because a high value man isn’t interested in “bodies” but in a partner worthy of his time. A high value woman. Low value men, such as F&F are basing their value on women and how they can not only disrespect, but bag them. Your dad is high value. A man who built a family and secured his lineage. A man who made great sacrifices for important things.
These men aren’t like your dad
@@clementine7655 yeah don't get caught up having sex with randoms just for body count and ego. It sounds cool yet it's a waste of time. Wasted energy, brings fatigue, headaches etc.
I'm not saying don't go eventually have sex once in a while but don't go being a slave to your pleasures.
@@mgbm8335 I’m a wait till marriage person so I’m not worried about it. Literally sex, imo, with anyone other than at LEAST a gf/bf is a waste of time and risk to me
"Real power comes from respect"
- D-mob
Def jam Fight for NYC
To exent that is true.
I had a colleague who went into a heated argument about how to grow MY hair faster.He was very anoying, cuting me off all the time,repeating the same thing...When he pissed me off i just said: I only take advice from ppl who can show up results...and that was the moment when he realised he is bald.(My hair is over waistline btw).
😂😂😂🤣
Whats your secret to hair growth? Mine is a few inches past my shoulders, would love to get mone longer.
Had a similar experience with a bald man. He was always giving unsolicited advice. I told him when you change your hairstyle, we can discuss mine
@@floatpool8307 mkay .glad to know your sense of humor is so boring you find me asking a question related to her comment so funny. Feel free to screenshot it even. Enjoy.
for his defence if he is bald and heated about that argument he probably did do a lot of research to get his own hair
As a Christian, I pray to God to show me what it means to be a man. This is one example I'll use so I don't follow this behavior. God, help me to see through false prophets.
Beautiful to see men want better
Read the scriptures…it shows you how
Be urself ,and be human that's it
Amen 🙏
Find confidence within and women will show themselves, to you. You'll know, when you do.
Bro, that girl barely cut him off. I'm not even sure if she did. Good for her for leaving. She sounded like she actually had a personality.
"I don't think that is what she said." (defending a girl who was getting talked over)
"Stop cutting me off!"
"Are you mad?"
"No!🧢😡"
Fit's angry face killed me, he looked like his eye was about to twitch. lol
I think she was cutting him off, but she only did it one time. That's no reason to get mad.
@@aj3706 yeah. It happens in conversation. I do that all the time. Sometimes you have a thought and spout it off right after someone starts speaking.
Na. She was trash
@@jsgr5382 😂
Myron is the kind of guy who has never had success over women and the podcast gives him all the power and when he forces them out he gets that gratification which he never had
Indeed. But he’s balding and in his 30s and still acts immature , he’s Sad.
@@MelaniaRose 😂😂😂😂😂
Fkn dead, Right?! He’s created his mini version of a castle where he gets to feel like a king lol 🤣🤣🤣 It’s cute and sad! 😆
@@Nah-ah He's become the villain that Aba and Preach can't stop talking about.
He was the musty kid in school!
Tbh Asian is a “hood chick” saying someone is mean is more of a playful thing than calling out his character. Fit or whatever took it as an attack on his “authority” when it could’ve actually become a lighthearted playful moment of course of course he would have to understand women and have some sort of charisma to pull that off .
All he did was defend his name he didn't get loud or disrespectful until she did
@@yaboyreflex1919 exactly
@@yaboyreflex1919 she said “you’re mean”in a. Playful tone he’s just emotional
@@yaboyreflex1919 Defend being called "mean"? Again it was playful, but you'd have to actually have experience with women to know that. The way he reacted was irrational and emotional. You are just as delusional and beta as he is.
@@fatib3200 he didn't get upset he simply stated why he isn't mean. Which he isn't your on his show he had being saying no side conversations the entire podcast and Asian doll came late and got mad because he said it's his show which it is. Y'all weird only wanna see facts when your fav Yt MAKES up facts when u got proof right in your face
I have never personally watched a Fresh & Fit podcast all the way through; however, what I have seen just makes me cringe. I find it comical as well that they invite all of these 'clout-chasing' Instagram models onto their forum solely on the pretense of their looks & often simply to degrade them for views. So in essence, they are proportionally monopolizing off of these women because their other content is simply inadequate. These women are NOT the standard of modern women today and this podcast is harmful/toxic to BOTH men and women alike. I would love to see these two invite a woman onto their podcast with substance and little or no social media presence and see how their 'alpha male' dynamic begins to crumble. Also, why do they always have to slide in how people are jealous of them and want to be like them? If you have to constantly vocalize that, I have to wonder whether you're trying to convince me or yourself. Confidence and silent. Insecurities are loud. I hope these men reach puberty at some point in their careers because right now it just looks like someone gave two toddlers some microphones and a bunch of camera equipment.
Well said.
They talk about High value men and women yet get no one who fits that description on there channel, it’s full of ratchet looking women or immature men.
How to spot a fake “alpha male” anytime they feel like they can or should make people feel like shit or put people beneath them. If you’re a true Alpha then you lead people by example, you help build them up and not rip the down. When did being an alpha and being a bully become the same thing. Being an alpha means you build the path so people can come behind you. Not burn the bridges so you can be alone. Love the work Aba and Preach keep it up!
Not to be rude but alpha or leader is not what u thought since day one being an alpha is being fake. Hell even i thought the same thing for longest time but when u get a trade in business technology. They tell you alpha is the worse way to go bcuz its proven in the business world theyre all bark n no bite.
😂 by telling someone to constantly stop talking because they’re ruining your show is putting them beneath you?!
Agree but sometimes the objective truth does feel like shit
Alpha/beta/sigma/gamma is like healing crystals and horoscopes for the "manosphere"
I can't stand all of that alpha and beta bullshit. I have my own mind. People are people. Either you're a good person who does what they're supposed to do or you aren't. Either your character is in tact or it's not.
I appreciate the editor when he zoomed in on Myron's hat.
Myron: "I'm not mad"
Editor: "🧢"
Perfection.
Ikr!? Had me rolling💀💀
It's so perfect that he was wearing a blue cap too🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
I’m glad that Aba pointed out the energy of how they treat men vs women who interrupt them. These men are very “beta”.
They never said they were alpha so it's ok 🥴
@@Malthizar yea , they just call others beta 🤦
FNF kicked out men too, because most women can't control their emotions like men, they get kicked out more often. What's wrong with that?
@@Waterbug1591 lol Kodak answered a call on the pod and all Myron ain’t so shit.
They seem to get especially mad if a woman doesn't let them talk over them.
I think the girl who was like "I'm happy to leave if I'm not allowed to talk" is a legitimate strong empowered female...and she was fine as fuck too. Who was she? I must know.
Right?!
That’s the problem. Myron is a loser no doubt, but don’t justify her bc of that. She’s been shown to still be for the streets.
Asian doll, king Von’s ex.
@@TheJJMonsta whether or not she "for the streets" is irrelevant...I'm not simpin tho I would def smash. My point is that she was responding, and being calm and eloquent. Her hoe status isn't the issue.
Lmfao.
Fit looks so insecure. My guess is that he was the guy who was pushed around by ladies and started working out and adopted a rude and aggressive attitude towards women to change. He is so bitter about how he was treated in the past its almost like he wants revenge(hence the whole "we kicked these racket bitches out" motif). Like, he tries so hard to come off as a "true alpha male", by just shitting on women and saying those disgusting things to Preach, that it's sad.
this. he even admitted to didnt have much dating experience in his 20s. literally an incel thats 6 ft tall and in good shape
He is sudanese. A lot of their man dont respect women
When men get pussy every week and you dont and people laugh at you, and you even get bullied by ugly women. At some point you will break. And i am glad he got his act together. And pump and dumps these thots. Nothing is as sweet as revenge.
@@piraat070got his act together? He reeks of insecurity and tries so hard to look intimidating but backs up last moment. He claims to be alpha and a leader, yet he cant even compose himself when someone questions him. Also revenge? My god you need some help if you think making others suffer just as you suffered will make you happy in life.
@@lefterisstefanidis3157 yup
What's interesting is both fish and fraud display a lot of narcissist traits. The underlying insecurity, the desperate need for validation, the narcissistic rage and gaslighting...
You're giving Fresh too much credit. He is a non-thinking follower. He can barely form sentences, let alone gaslight someone.
@@FLdancer00 you have a point
@@FLdancer00 they're like a bad version of Abbott and Costello.
They are jokes. I can’t believe people really show up to listen to them and get them money.
Stop the virtue signalling. Everybody is a narcissist. You prioritise your own interests first, don’t you ?
Been saying they were frauds for months now. Myron has always had the attitude of a petulant spoiled child who has no ability to convey his thoughts or ideas without having the perfect g setting/atmosphere. The instant his protected bubble of manufactured self confidence gets dinged, he freaks out. It's as if he immediately worries whether the world will question his manhood so he has to "violently" try and regain whatever perceived position he had prior to someone disagreeing with him.
We knew this
It had been addressed
But its sad now I gotta watch fresh fit that I hate
Via here lol
No. Aba and Preach have been saying they’re frauds and you’ve been repeating it. Don’t treat ur words as if they’re ur own
@@2ndYHWH Here is a crazy concept... Maybe multiple people came to the same conclusion based on a wealth of evidence.
@@benja303 Watching A&P’s first video and making ur own assumption is still copying A&P
@@benja303 same evidence that was easily cleared up
I can't imagine being the girlfriend of that dude. Like there's no way he's not a physical abuser. Scary shit.
I love that the lady respected herself and said she would leave if shes not allowed to speak.
she's allowed to speak just not when she's talking over other guest talking....its bad for viewers ears.. lmao.
@@revolverocelot1919 I hear you, but it's a podcast with 8+ people on at the same time who all have something to say. A little bit of interjection and harmless interruption is gonna happen. She didn't even seem aggressive or overtly loud in the clip to me 🤷🏿♂️
@@DrAlchem01 in the clip??…go back and watch the whole thing..he warned her several times and she was too entitled to take it seriously…
@@revolverocelot1919 how many is several? Because in the clip he mentions twice. Unless it's been less than an hour I wouldn't call that 'several'.
That aside, Myron doesn't have that same energy for male guests despite interruptions by them. Has he ever asked a male guest to stop interrupting him after they have? I don't follow these guys so idk
@@DrAlchem01 lol!!! Watch the whole video before you start complaining !!! There are episodes where Myron has kicked off male guest for several reasons…he doesn’t treat the men different you goober…..but your bias is showing.
Maybe Preach is right. It's about the flashiness. It is boring to simply ask a happily married couple (10yrs +) to talk about what makes a healthy relationship and maintaining ones identity while in a relationship advice but a wildly single person who is caught in perpetual dating, hook-ups or divorced is interesting and entertaining. Sometimes the most truthful and helpful stuff is boring and not instant; the cure for overcoming that is self determination, time, and an attention span longer than a 15 second tiktok.
Yup this is just entertainment.. just like everything else with an audience
👏👏👏
Exactly
"Are you mad?"
Myron: "Not at all"
Meanwhile the camera pans and zooms in on his 🧢......when I tell you I was in tears, that is no exaggeration
Lol wow why didn’t i booked that?
@Mitchendo64 LOL, both!
Elite editing 😭😭
@@tormentorchick1755 most def both
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
I've been viewing the manosphere for 5+ years and in the last year or so it has gotten VERY toxic especially against black women so im glad you guys are putting F&F on blast and holding them and their influence on their audience accountable
6 months was enough for me. It will bring you negative energy.
I don't watch any redpil nonsense anymore . We used to be children having fun. How tf did we end up in this adult world with also this nonsense .
The devil controls your phone and social media so be carefull what u feed urself
@@riasilva4579 true the devil co trols your phone
@@Moesie Its addictive too.
@@riasilva4579 true I've watched for months and started liking gossip.
I shamed women online and acted like kevin samuals with all this data.
All this men vs women war made me lose my brain cells and it became boring
I"m a handsome 6'1 men And I always got compliments from girls treating me with love. I got many options to date
So I don't even need that stuff
I used it as boredom or escape my tought from my trauma.
But now looking at it whenever I see people talk about genders on tiktok etc
I keep scroll it away or remove it.
Looking at it back I see how many people are desperate tbh. This stuff is damaging our mentall health and is deviding our community
"You mad that you aint kickin out ratchet women everyday!"
Ratchet women were doing their own thing away from you and you got them on your show and getting mad that they ratchet.
This whole thing is a grift. They are out here to validate insecure and angry men who think that all women are hoes by bring on exactly the type of women they think all women are. Even if only 1% of women are like that, that's still a lifetime worth of women for the show. Confirmation bias confirmed
So wait are you saying not all women are dumb bimbos who only care about money and shit?
Next thing you'll know you are going to tell me there isn't an evil plot by the people in the shadows because life is ultimately boring as fuck.
@@TyonKree He never said that bimbos don't exist. He stated that Ratched women were being Ratched on their own. Myron went out of his way despite the hate he has for them. He decided to drag them into his show just so that he can Express his hatred for them.
@@TyonKree i know you are being sarcastic but socio bubbles are real man. i have met good people who live in their own bubble and think things and people are a certain way. a lot of people are conditioned to be slaves to their bubble since they are kids too
They won't stop inviting these type of women onto their platform bc this is exactly the type of reactions they want. It probably won't change until someone actually gets hurt or worse on their show, which I could definently see them using for even more exposure.
Apparently, Asian Doll was going to get her gang after them. He is big trouble, if that does happen.
Ak getting gun pun on him is scary
Asian Doll did better than I thought. She easily could've had them hemmed up, but she got up and left instead. She did say she'd get her crew after them tho.
@@lavonnealexander6936 I'm not a fan of Fresh and Fit at all, but if she is going to do that then it may not end up well for her. They could easily call the police on her tbh.
@@lavonnealexander6936 nobody scared of crash dummy gangmembers 😂 they cry when they spend life in prison
“Any man who must say, 'I am the king,' is no true king".
Power and authority are understood. Homie just ends up looking like a clown
"I'm not a king'
"That means he is a king".
The Mom: "He's not a king. He's a very naughty Little boy".
Tywin Lannister
Facts, I don't ever want to be called king tbh because i don't need my ego boosted. I'm secure in myself and whenever someone calls me that i correct them accordingly. I'm just a man. Calling yourself king is especially weird. Like who is he trying to convince?
@@The_Real_Black_Jesus its good you dont need to be called king and are humbly able to accept being called just blaq jesus instead haha
@@jcn91 lmao
It's ironic because I've never met any of these "manosphere" men in real life. I see all of these comments projecting their stereotypes about Black American women but I've never heard any man talk like this in real life.
Yall can't even pick our "make believe" struggle... Either we're ratchet and ghetto, or highly educated but can't keep a man because of our ego.
In my family (my generation), all of the women are married with no kids out of wedlock. I'm from the south side of Chicago and our men aint perfect by no means, but they don't behave like this. Heterosexual black men with southern roots don't think like this... Thank God!
If I ever learned that my son were following these F&F clowns and admiring their way of thinking, I'd feel like a failure as a father.
Thanks to Aba and Preach, i saw their real face. These two FnF clowns acting like agressive lil kids.
podcasts give me migraines with people like this
True but even worse is daughters listening to Cardi B and the likes as the gospel.
@@1nf1ni7e_GG nah this is way worse
@@2crisp63 Gotta disagree on that one lol. What FnF did was embarrassing because they typically have good truth in what they say but they let their emotions get them here and I was never a big fan of them I just acknowledge that they mostly speak the truth. Cardi B and other gangsta rap/pop artists are always saying dumb shit and have much more influence. The reason the FnF podcast is not good is because of the Cardi B like women they bring on the show. There's no good women they bring on. Maybe one decent women once in a blue out of the masses they've brought on.
Myron is such a control freak. When the women ain't doing what he wants them to he loses his chill.
loses his hair too
@@n-wordheelflips2648 😂
@@n-wordheelflips2648 Well stress does cause hair fall, so it doesn't surprise me.
Asian Doll deals with shooters. I know they got rules for their show.. However, he needs to tread lightly with some of these women. You don't know how they are mentally or who tf they know. This could have turned out bad..
Edit: Myron suffers from not getting his ass whooped at any point in his life, and I say this because you have to be careful how you address situations.
so he shouldve just tolerated the disrespect because its asian doll lmaoo
Ike Asian Dolls bf was King Von these dudes are dumb 🤦🏾♂️
@@RobinXlone Yeah they should be way more careful dummy
@@RobinXlone So alpha to be worried all the time about respect. That's treading to Jack Murphy territory.
🤣
I think the most Alpha or Masculine thing we can do as men is control ourselves. Controlled chaos. “Don’t ever let anyone else control you or your reactions. No one should ever be able to make you step outside of your “box””. -my father to me growing up.
6:34
Aba is soo petty and we love every single step of it
Yo I cried out loud!
I can't with this man!!😂
I spit my water out 🤣🤣🤣
They invite women on their platform that they don’t respect then lecture them with dating analytics on why men don’t want them and cry when the tables are turned on them.
no they show analytics to show how men are not fucking anybody. all the stats show that guys are lacking
Whats the purpose for these conversations?
@@melanesianqueen93 so that guys can see that women dont live in reality dating wise. so u can see first hand how women act and respond
We live in America where if you tell women to be accountable for their actions you will get labeled a misogynist. No wonder women are hustling dudes out here everyday. There’s a reason why these red pill content creators tell dudes to work on themselves and be careful with certain type of women, if you attack fresh and fit y’all might as well attack Kevin Samuels and the others. And when these dudes show statistics on the current dating game today. When you have 70-80% divorce rates initiated by women,Women addicted to Social Media, OnlyFans/Snapchat premiums,Women wanting to abuse the court system on thousands of men everyday,Women making fun of men looks and height, False charges on men,All of a sudden it’s a problem when you have conversations with many women about the situation that’s going on today. That is why men are not dealing with majority of the Western women. The truth hurts but it’s just facts.💯🤷🏻♂️
@@RobinXlone oh okay. I come from a patriachal culture so i was confused.
You know what I really appreciate about you guys? You're funny and authentic. Authenticity is awesome and y'all's personality is so refreshing BUT what sets you apart in my opinion is that you're always respectable along the way. Many people sell out or fake the funk to get by but this is something that will never get old....... Lol Preach, I'd see you live for stand up if I could you're hilarious bro. 😋🤙🏽
Truth. These guys are respectable and open minded. They criticize bad behavior on both sides. Also, they actually have successful relationships. FnF don't seem to even have a desire for that. Just to smash hoes then demean them for being hoes because it's easy for a girl to be a hoe and hard for a guy, which apparently makes it morally justifiable. Most guys actually want a good woman to commit to. They are just encouraging the breakdown of families. You can't go criticizing women for being single moms cause they chose bad dudes while basically encouraging every guy to be one of those dudes.
Their show is fueled by so much hate towards women. Which is even worse in comments. They show no respect so they shouldn't expect it back.
I'm glad you guys call it out
Thank You FINALLY!! Someone says it on UA-cam. F&F never allow a well-headed and leveled, pretty woman on their show. I've seen women (very few) break down F&F whole premise. Myron -ofcourse- gets upset and says "Why you disrespectful?" .... F&F are disingenuous, insecure, ignorant, petty. They have an incredible opportunity to make real conversation BUT they choose to be cornballs...they whack.!! I would love to see all of the guests walk out altogether.
They definitely do that on purpose. Not saying that the women that they invite are stupid, but they purposely invite the same type of women because they are afraid that if they invite a different type they will lose the argument. They like the power.
That would be a great moment if all the the girls just got up and left their show it'll be hilarious
F & F wouldn’t have decent conversations with intelligent and stable minded men or women on the show , because they aren’t on that level.
They had a practicing lawyer on last night, but she ended up leaving earlier b/c it was too ratchet.
That is not how it goes if u watch the show
You can be a model and have character . You can be unattractive and have no character. Character is independent trait born from integrity and action that one takes to assume that a model who is attractive will be lacking in character shows bias . I believe in you give people the benefit of the doubt first and let them prove who they are on what they actually do . The kicking the guests off the show brings in money and revenue for their channel that’s why they do it - because the audience supports it
IG "models" and models are in different universes.
some people live their life obsessively shooting selfies and advertizing crap consumer goods, not only for money but also because they are insecure as hell and require a constant stream of attention from strangers to survive the day.
can they have character, wit, actual skills, education, hobbies and some self-respect? yes.
is it likely though?
IG models character is out of touch with reality and pink feminism
For the most part attractive women have no character and that's becuase they don't feel the need to develop one.
That's just how hypergamy works
@@adamzoubi96 gonna have to agree on that.
@@adamzoubi96 dats not true .
It really sucks. When i found FnF i really thought men had an outlet to express our problems with dating. They really are the Jerry Springer of mens issues and I’m glad i left them alone
I feel you bro. I thought they were cool asf but then I realized "holy shit why do they keep kicking all these ladies out?"
It is depressing that many UA-cam channels on relationships has turned into just that... a Mega Jerry Springer Show.
Ei, Asian here. What's the context behind the Jerry Springer thing? I know of the show but not the use here. I'm curious.
Did you find good advice?
What about that show gave u that vibes the second they introduced adult content creators you should have known what it was lol
That guy just comes across as a massive misogynist. First he puts words in her mouth and when she tries to correct him he throws a tantrum about her cutting him off. I get this “I bought you on here to look pretty and not to voice an opinion, so get back in your box” vibes from this guy.
Look up the definition of misogynist. It means you HATE women. Freshnfit would never have any women on the show if they HATED women. You sound like a gutless coward d riding on the wave of hate for Freshnfit by the politically correct clown world we live in. Imagine being butt hurt about a dudes sexual preference 😂😂😂. Keep whining and crying like a little girl. You’re such a coward you disabled the feature for people to @ you 🤡🤡🤡.
Very true
@@AuschwitzMyPants did you really just accuse them of d riding and calling them a clown while getting severely but hurt that someone criticized fnf? Dude you sound like a d riding clown lol. If you can't see they do some shady shiz that needs to be called out, then you got issues mate. I'm not saying they're like onision or anything, but they sure aren't the saints their fan boys are trying to make them out to be.
@@bamboobtchslap Hannibal Lector makes a point though.People really need stop acting like Fresh and Fit don’t hold men to standards as well and aren’t upfront about what they are and want.
@@Drago1467 There is a difference between holding someone to standards and be deliberately patronising towards a guest. When you invite someone on to your show they are a guest and therefore as their host you should treat them with respect and curtesy. When he said “let me translated that from womenese” what he is saying is: women are incapable of expressing themselves in a rational or logical way, therefore I am going to tell you what she meant to say. This is extremely patronising. When the women rightly stood up for herself and refused to sit there like a meek little lady. He threw a tantrum because how dare a women interrupt him while he insults and belittles her. This attitude of real men dominate women belongs in the Stone Age.
Straight up - Myron's treatment of women is despicable.
Mommy issues no doubt about it.
@@NewYorkNadia absolutely notice how he won’t talk to a man that way.
@@chelsea9641 Facts. I never understood why women would go on this show. I was on the Kevin Samuels show one night last year and he was very courteous. So a few nights later I jumped on to watch the show and the chat room kept egging me to call in, so I did. Samuels was menstruating that night and he gave me H3LL 🤣🤣🤣 Unsubbed and never went back. These women need some self-respect. I know that they do it for “the clout” but there’s not enough clout in the universe that’s worth this bs. Nah.
I think the success of the podcast is getting to his head...
@@KB-jx1xx I could say something really cruel, but, I won’t. 🤐
I think that if they were to have a respectable woman on the podcast they would absolutely bomb it, they would not know how to handle a woman like that. It might feel like a threat to their ego, so as long as they keep bringing “problematic” women on the show their ego stays intact and fed. 🤷🏻♀️
No lies detected. I agree!
Well wrong your wrong they have shows were it’s all good vibes with respectable women Myron is not always mad y’all just wanna spin that narrative.
@@bootlegtim7216 let’s be real, are the people tuning in for those rare livestreams, if they even happen that often? no, y’all (their viewers) like the belligerent content
They'd probably just overtalk her then kick her out when she says something they don't like
"can't handle her" lmao ..you lost me at that.
The energy feels like being in class and having a substitute teacher who is just too sensitive. They are just rude af it’s disgusting 🤮.
5:31 Myron definitely has that balding-and-not-handling-it-well energy
Hahahahahahahahahaha
I find it hilarious that as soon as the female guest start defending themselves and start debunking/challenge their bullshit they immediately start to crack and get defensive which leads to showing their true "beta" selves. Hilarious.
Lol those type of ig girls debunk nothing get real
@@abzyman1 can you imagine their reactions if a solid woman with principles started dunkin' on their bullshit? I can almost guarantee that they'll either have a massive fit or go into a corner and start crying like babies.
@@eEmm1 look, the girls rhey invite, cant form logic for sheet. but, yeah if logical women are invited then these guys would probably throw fits.
@@eEmm1 they’re mostly college educated it’s just their personal lives are trash 😭
@@blackroyalbrand1287 You can buy education but you cannot buy morals and values.
They keep choosing the same type of woman so they can say, "See, this is how they ALL are". That, for me, signals weakness. If you can only prove your point by stacking the deck, your point was never that strong to begin with.
Not to mention Miami is a huge pool of those type of women and that’s where they set up.
Not all but you could pull up tiktok and find so many videos of the nonsense going on especially the abuse of the family court system. I don't hate women but I may move to another country with a better court system.
Right
@@saltlife8221 Leave america if you can dude. Be better than these losers.
Ill recommend some countries to get started and mark them on your map.
@@nononsense846 I mean at the moment where I am isn't like the rest of the country. Things just don't look like they are going the right way.
The problem with Myron is whenever he gets challenged, he responds out of emotion and never logic
He legit has no ability to reflectively function 😂
He wasn't challenged
He literally gets challenged all the time and wins nearly all of them. They women are just disrespectful
I've seen him respond with logic. I think lately the clout is getting to his head
@@user-pf1fr2zg1e, Amrou Fudl, is that YOU???🤔😏
A lot of "self proclaimed alpha males" always go hard on women, but they rarely step to men in the same manner, where being alpha really matters
😂😂😂 I like y’all. The transition into the promo had me in literal tears 😭. You brought up an excellent point about them that I also mentioned about Kevin Samuels. Energy is everything. I notice men who claim to be high value or alpha male are in the presence of women with weird energy. The very women these men complain about are the same women they entertain. Truth is they secretly want different women but know they haven’t done the work they need to do as men to attract them. It will be interesting to see what becomes of their show. I also notice these men worry too much about women. Where are the podcast to help better men. There’s no diversity in the space for men. As a BW we have femininity spaces, boss girl spaces, cooking spaces, mom spaces and men don’t seem to have that same diversity. Do they even want it? Great video as always.
Woah Aba & Preach, making fun of someone's bald head for your sponsored video doesn't make you any different from F&F making fun of your overgrown bush and fat wife... I agree with you guys 95% of the time but you missed big on this one... I thought you guys were better but nah. That's very disappointing.
@@Waterbug1591 they already said they don’t care if you joke about each other they are comedians. But talking about someone’s wife is over the line. And they didn’t start joking about them till they crossed that line. Once you disrespect someone’s loved one don’t expect their respect for you to be the same
@@Waterbug1591 Lmao nah that promo was on par with funny Geico commercials.
@@josephscannell6966 Yeah it was pretty funny too when Preach's wife was made fun of... Landwhales lol...
@@tierrarice4757 An eye for an eye, welp that puts A&P on the same spectrum as F&F. The toxicity spreads and infects.
Let's be real, if there was a female version of Fresh&Fit and a bunch of men went on it to get clowned every week, we'd all know those men are bums just for showing up.
True. I do believe it would be more widely accepted to clown on men then as opposed to clowning on women.
No the women that go on their podcast are idiots for going there. They are hungry for Instagram followers and the fact that they go on this podcast just shows their desperation
nah i would love to show up. thats free clout for what i got goin on. plus i ant even trying to go on to smash. i will let my homies handle that. its gonna be like back in highschool again. we in the same group project but i don’t rock wit none of you people💯💯💯😂😂🤣
@@armyst1243 literally the point made
No you would still blame and sht on women don't kid your self
These guys invite the same type of woman on the show every time because they are BEGGING for the drama. Their highest rated videos are almost always the one where they make some edgy clickbait title about the women they have to kick out. They live for the drama because it's what gets them views in the algorithm. Sure as hell isn't their "lifestyle advice," anyone who's been a normal and functioning member of society, i.e.: seen how real people interact in everyday life, knows their lifestyle and persona is all a front. And anyone who legit believes it, you're gonna have a rough few years lol. They live on the hype and shock, they're just UA-cam shock-jocks.
We really need to differentiate IG / onlyfans girls and ACTUAL MODELS ….it’s insulting to keep getting lumped in with these women …real models have far more class and intelligence and wouldn’t be caught dead on a show like Fake & Fraud.
Quit playing they'll come at the celebrities come how come I've been priest don't have celebrities oh my bad they're ashy feet
Just because they’re on different platforms doesn’t mean they are lesser. Check your misogyny. It’s ironic that you’re making this “differentiation” yet talking about “class and intelligence.” ☠️
@@GretchenV95 They simply don’t do what actual models do they are 2 different categories and in the industry they are definitely seen as lesser, just telling you the facts , fashion designers are not interested in booking OF girls for major campaigns.
Naomi Campbell was notoriously abusive to her staff. Walking down runways in Europe don't make you classy or intelligent. I'm sure you can find plenty of real models that are complete morons and IG chicks who are very smart just as you can the opposite
@@GretchenV95there is a clear distinction between ig/onlyfans models and real models. it is not misogyny to point that out. even the irony you pointed out makes no sense and is not creditable 😢
The fact they get more views from throwing women out then they do about actual informative topics says more about the viewers than F&F.
Forreal
Yeah I only watch them for that reason, not gonna lie to you. I don’t really take their advice seriously, while some of it may be true, not all of it is meant to be internalized and added into my daily life. It’s not that deep.
Bingo
Both actually. If the viewers love it, they'll love doing it again. The only episode I watched from beginning to the end were the episodes where they brought in the lawyer couples.
I understood one simple thing. "Alpha" is not physical appearance, its character. U need character, not just body.
They don’t even have that
"Alpha" was a made up concept anyways. Wolves in the wild don't have that. The wolf pack consists of two parents and their children... eventually these kids set out to find another pack, find a mate and form their own pack separately. Orcas have similar dynamics... the pods are mainly run by females, their children, and grandchildren and in one case scientists found some females are even great grandmother helping raising these grand-babies.
Absolutely correct 👍🏽
After that incident where that dude pulled up to their spot to fight, that should’ve been a sign to start hosting your podcast in a separate location & NOT your home.
They been having all of these randoms in one of they HOUSES? That’s wild lmfao
that dude was their friend for years, they fell out and he pulled up, he even worked at the pod
@@RobinXlone Now tell me what happens when someone that’s not there friend pulls up?
@@RobinXlone what’s your point? A dude still pulled up ready on some violent shit. Stop defending these dudes in any capacity. You’re not a dumb person and I won’t call you one for defending them or being more so on your side. Sometimes though you gotta pick your battles correctly and realize what’s worth fighting for. They ain’t it. Do better.
We live in America where if you tell women to be accountable for their actions you will get labeled a misogynist. No wonder women are hustling dudes out here everyday. There’s a reason why these red pill content creators tell dudes to work on themselves and be careful with certain type of women, if you attack fresh and fit y’all might as well attack Kevin Samuels and the others. And when these dudes show statistics on the current dating game today. When you have 70-80% divorce rates initiated by women,Women addicted to Social Media, OnlyFans/Snapchat premiums,Women wanting to abuse the court system on thousands of men everyday,Women making fun of men looks and height, False charges on men,All of a sudden it’s a problem when you have conversations with many women about the situation that’s going on today. That is why men are not dealing with majority of the Western women. The truth hurts but it’s just facts.💯🤷🏻♂️
There's a difference between being an alpha, and being a bully.
Back in old days people like F&F were simply called CLOWNS 🤡 ..
And that bit about teaching people this and that was cringe...
This whole compilation just showed how insecure and immature they are..
Women kept rejecting me so imma start juicing and make a podcast and invite 20 chicks because im natural alpha male so i can assert my dominance by randomly kicking people out 🤔
Right you can clearly tell fresh and fit were the dudes at their highschool who idolized the jocks and guys who got lots of females and they then got bitter and jealous and never let that stuff go
Can't believe that at some point in my life, I was a fan of their's.......
Thank GOD it only lasted 3 weeks, since they bored me out FAR before the drama started, bullet dodged tbh.
Same lol exactly same im so ashamed of myself for liking these frauds especially fresh. i agree with like 40% of what they say but that other 60% is fucking way off.
Blue pilled.
I’ll admit, I still watch them to this day (purely for the entertainment, cannot stand them as people).
Same. When they first started getting big I found it funny as hell when they kicked off dumb girls. Got old fast though.
Exactly bro once I realized I was watching for entertainment I unfollowed, and weeks later aba and preach dropped a video on them lol
Alpha’s exert their power in silence. They don’t need to be catty, emotionally and bully like. You can tell Myron has no game. He uses his strict demeanor to hide his social awkwardness. He doesn’t know how to interact with women. He has a hard time navigating situations. A cool man would have laughed off the “ mean” comment. Insert something friendly or flirty to try to change the mood. Instead he gets defensive and uses his platform to control and bully. He doesn’t know how to deescalate a situation. The boy gotta get over his childhood.
Listen... Not when youve been nice for 2 hours. I'm sorry after the 6th time imma kick you out. Now the Asian doll chick was cursing under her breath and saying all sorts of stuff.. the audience can hear her. The clip aba and preach showed didn't show Asian doll cursing first nor did it show the countless times the fit dude said.. please please hold down the side conversations, you will get a turn. The girl was admittedly snorting cocaine before she got there and drinking before she got there. I don't take up for rachet people ever.. now his corny ass talking about his dating preference is another issue completely
We women can pick up on insecure, little boys like him! I don’t know how the women in the group can keep a straight face every time he chucks a tanty! 😂🤣🤣
That’s statistically not true. Women on average are attracted to men with dark triad (psychopathy, narcissism and machiavellianism) traits than men without. Strange but true.
That’s complete bullshit. Psychopathic traits my ass bro fuck outta here with that shit
Well Aba and Preach didn’t criticize Myron for kicking her out
8:30
This was the first time I actually agreed with someone accusing someone else of mansplaining
Myron talks to these women with hostility in his voice. And these women sense that that's why they come at him. They're grown ass adults not children, they're not just gonna let some random dude talk to them like that. And him and his defenders will say the way you say things doesn't matter when thags not true. They way you say something shows the intent behind why you're saying it.
💯👌🏽
FnF reminds me of some high school kid dunking on pre school kids using that fissure price net. These girls can barely put together an argument let alone when they do Myron just riles them up emotionally or just dismisses their points with some shitty gloss over. Petty Aba is the hero we need during these trying times.
This whole debacle reminds me of the maxim 'Never interrupt your enemy whilst they're making a mistake'. My hope is that people like these and Jack Murphy don't stop the genuine work that gets done to help men find themselves and their authenticity.
Don't worry, they wont. In the market place of ideas, the truth and best ideas always rises to the top eventually. The good advice will always grow and spread.
Self should find self no other soul can tell another what he desires in his own soul that’s just my opinion
These "people" are frauds that are doing men more harm than good. Snake oil salesmen infested the manosphere not long after it was put together and it's been that way for a very long time. The more their exposed the better it will be for men to swift through the frauds and find the few that genuinely can help them.
Come on, you know they deliberately throw women off the show to say, "Look at me! I'm an alpha male!" They are such snowflakes that they are triggered over petty things like being interrupted and have to boost their egos this way!
I think their best podcasts were when Aba and the Rommates were invited. You can clearly see when someone is trying to make interesting conversaion vs the hosts that just want to get into kicking out girls because they know that's where the money is. Nice ad!!
The Roomates are cornballs
This topic Aba talked about is exactly what I felt regarding the Jack Murphy anger with Sydney Watson. It was ironic to see a man guru who markets making good men, lose his temper so swiftly. The outburst with Sydney appeared totally unwarranted based off how things unfolded. But then he later talked so calmly with another man about the same topic. It was only with a woman that he had an outburst with.
And then Tim pool goes full simp jack…..
@@tylerconley9670 what happened with them?
@@Orapac4142 Murphy is a normal guest on Timcast and is a straight creep. Anyway having a lie of a story about how he apologized to Sydney and had drinks That that other guy “clearing the air” Tim pool let that happen and made no further comment on someone who claim to be a journalist and all for free media he’s covering this story just like msnbc or cnn would his live chats are hilarious!!
Fans aren’t letting it go because Tim belittled them and filtered a lot of SUPERCHATS
It's kinda hilarious how the last time things blew up, they said they'll change how they do things and here we are 🤣🤣🤣
Watch the news podcast
Wow. That was straight mansplaining though. The lady said what she said and then he went "let me translate that womanese for you..." like sir, let them say what they're saying and mean what they're saying. It really seemed like he was nervous that viewers would actually think she made a point and you can't have that on their show.
that was the smoothest transition into a sponsor i have EVER seen
Bro, that woman tellin Myron that he is mansplaining was pretty much the only time when I've agreed that it was actually mansplaining lol. Douchebags
The fact that the whole Alpha, Beta thing came from research on wolves that was debunked by the guy who did the initial research really puts this into perspective lmao
That doesn't change the fact that people behave and live within the context of social hierarchy. Regardless of what you call it, in MANY scenarios there is a person in charge who others defer to
@@ralphfraz and in that social heirarchy, no one's gonna pick Myron for leader lol
The funniest shit about the Alpha thing. The Alpha wolf was a female wolf 😂 it just cracks me up everytime when someone say they are Alpha I ask them "so you are a female then?" 😂😂
The guys running the Fresh and Fit podcast are shinning examples of misogyny.
I find it physically uncomfortable to watch two men have a conversation while 8 women sit around them with a mic, completely silent.
Can we just admit that they (possibly subconciously) do it intentionally to feel powerful? There's always a power dynamic between men and women, that's why a lot of relationships are so toxic...That's what this boils down to. They choose these low class women so they can exert some modicum of fictional power over them to massage their egos. Even the layout of the show is intentional...Their guests are trapped between them and the wall/table. It prevents people from just getting up and walking away without making an exceptionally desparate looking scene. It also puts the guests center camara while FNF themselves are pretty much hiding off to the side. Literally everything about their show is a psychological game intended to make them feel better about themselves.
Also, that was the best sponser ad I've ever seen.
You just put my thoughts into words. This dudes can't have any type of bond with a woman if they ain't "submissive". They try to find easy targets and degrade women.
There's always a power dynamic between people, not just men and women. It's just more noticeable between men and women because of our clear physical differences and why people gravitate easily to this recognition.
If there were just men and no women in this world (just suspend reality for a few minutes), then fresh and fit would be doing this alpha behavior onto other men just to feel more important than anybody else.
With clear physical differences between men, Fresh and Fit would not last long with their mouth running the way it does with men bigger than them, however they would be using this tactic on men smaller than them.
Yes yes yes yes
Well said
@ThatOneGirl I disagree.
I started watching Aba and preach when I was about 15 summer after my freshman year. The way they take a step back and look at everything and give such a calm well thought out viewpoint has been a great example to me and helped me grow as a young man. It seems corny but I truly believe these guys do help lead either young, or misguided men. I hope you guys keep up the great work.
It's really not "alpha" to call yourself alpha. Idk it's like that person needs a label to make them feel confident but a confident person doesn't need that. People calling themselves alpha is similar to a person saying "I'm an empath" or "I'm a good person". A good person or an empath doesn't need to say what they are, they show it.
I think these days a lot of people just need labels to identify themselfs. I know who I am. I dont need labels that tell me who I am. People are just so lost these days with low self esteem and so much image struggles it baffles me honestly
9:49 I don't think people are now realising the "alphas" are frauds, I think it's more like what it means to be "alpha" or "high value" is slowly but steadily changing. The idea of hot headed assholes who flaunt their power and insults any chance they get is starting to get old, and ideas like humility, respect, wisdom are starting to get the recognition they deserve alongside the already appreciated qualities of confidence and assertiveness. Your channel is doing great work moving us toward that shift and I appreciate that, guys.
I would argue this has been the case because the latter views are timeless. Media is distorting traditional values for commercial gain and this is taxing for the uneducated observer.
I love how the man told Myron , nah she ain’t leaving, *crickets * . He didn’t say shit to that man. He’s a coward who gets off on intimidating women to make himself feel superior. He’d never be able to stand up to another man
Hey has kicked men off aswell
I love you guys because, even when we don't agree, your arguments are linear and intellectual, and non-emotional; makes for great dialog.
non emotional? they literally have at least 20 videos on these guys it's sad really, they're obsessed. & i don't even follow F&F
@@Vuirotto Your comment is a perfect example of why, I respect these guys. They don't try and change the context of the discussion to meet their needs. I never spoke to motive: my comment was purely about how they approach supporting their argument. It wasn't purely about F&F but how they conduct business in general.
If you feel a way about their motive, that's fine but it in no way negates my comment.
They are skilled debaters (period). You can debate an issue that you are passionate about and still employ critical thinking to get your point across. argument shouldn't be.
I agree. You know someone’s a good speaker if you don’t agree with everything they say but still want to listen to their insight. If you listen to F&F and then these two, they are far far more mature and intellectual. F&F is so cringe. They’re like little boys in 30 year old bodies and then wonder why quality women don’t want them LOL
definitely
Single men giving dating advice to other men to keep them single. That's their whole vibe