I am a guide dog puppy trainer and this is a huge problem. With my service dog in training people with fake service dogs bark and growl in stores. It’s outrageous and not to mention how inconsiderate the owners are. People try to purposely distract my dog by making different noises and exited movements.
Heidi Willard growling is still not allowed as it is an aggression signal. And my own service dog is trained to bark one time when we are in a dark space and she first notices a person I might not have noticed. She does not bark at other dogs, she is silenced after one signal bark during the proper circumstances (not a grocery store), and if she does bark in inappropriate places/times we leave in order to enforce that if she behaves poorly she loses public privileges. Barking at other dogs, growling at ANYTHING, snapping, lunging. Those are all completely unacceptable behaviors and show a “handler” has zero actual control over their dog. Thusly making it a fake service dog.
Lynxxheart you can judge what's what all you want but that does not make you correct unless you have the kind of facts to back it up. In other words PROOF that a dog has not been trained to perform tasks for a disabled person is the only thing that would show they are fake! What you described that alone does NOT make a service dog a fake! A service dog has to be trained to perform the tasks necessary for their disabled owner. They do not have to be trained to not bark. Now to get in public places they do have to behave while there or they can be kicked out. A person hard of hearing trains their dogs to bark when their owners need to be aware of something they can not hear. But that's not the point the point is you can have either a service dog that behaves or a service dog that doesn't behave. If it does not behave that alone does NOT make it a fake service dog! A growling service dog should never be taken out in pubic but growling alone does not mean it's a fake service dog!
Lucia Brown - There are two parts to this problem, both of which are wreaking havoc for legitimate service dogs and their handlers. Problem 1 - People claiming to have a service dog which are clearly not. Service dogs in Canada, and I presume the rest of the world, are trained by accredited organizations and trainers to perform specific tasks for people with disabilities, such as seeing eye dogs, mobility assistance, retrieving, alerting etc... These fake service dogs are a bit easier to deal with then problem 2 because it's a bit more cut and dry. Problem 2 - Emotional support "animals" which is a vague term which is not regulated in any way whatsoever. These animals are pets which people assert they need to have with them all the time to deal with a plethora of mental health issues. I wouldn't have an issue with this if these animals (which I don't think a duck, or a pig or a goat should qualify) were somehow trained and tested to a standard which deems them temperamentally fit to be in public spaces. One of my dogs is a certified and therapy dog who works in a children's hospital and nursing homes. It was a very involved process to have my dog certified which required hundreds of hours of training and he had to pass multiple tests to ensure that he was temperamentally sound. It is an ongoing certification where I have to have him retested every two years and submit work reports and vet verifications that the dog is in to health. He also needs to be impeccably groomed before he goes to work (he is a Bernese/Aussie Shepherd cross so this is a fair amount of work). Not every dog is cut out for service work. My other dog, is a big, lovely mutt. He is the sweetest dog but he doesn't have the attention span or rock solid confidence my other dog does. That is just the way he is. No less a dog, but just not fit for service. I have flown with both of my dogs and they travel in crates in storage. They aren't service dogs and although I could easily pass my therapy dog off as a service or emotional support dog I would never do it. At the end of the day I am pretty grateful I am fortunate enough to not require a service dog, so I want to make those people living with a disability as hassle free as possible.
Heidi Willard - So how exactly does one determine whether or not a dog is an actual service dog and actually provides a service to compensate for a physical disability or disease?
I can walk but at times I use a wheelchair because I have MS and get tired. Faking a service dog is not like using a wheelchair at times and walking at times.
@@isabellaherb2216 I understand that. I have had my own encounters with fake service dogs over the years. It is like using medical equipment when you have no disability, as service animals are medical equipment. Fake esa are just as bad as fake service dogs.
@@eliicd303 he said “because you don’t “feel” like walking”. So his analogy is correct and this does not apply in your case. In your case, it sounds like you get tired because you have a debilitating disease. But his analogy was pretty good I feel.
It's so ridiculous that this has been allowed to go on for so long. It needs strict regulation and forced compliance. They should be required to have government issued ids, just like driver licenses. Its not fair to those handlers who truly need their service pets with them at all times to have to contend with all the jerks and their fake service pets.
Monarch Serenity I back it. Too many people claim to have ridiculous disabilies and take crazy animals around with them. A few weeks ago on my job, a few guys had snakes with them holding them and i refused to ring them up (because of my fear of snakes) and I think one of guys said it was for his anxiety! I told my supervisor he would have to service them. This was at a Walmart.
What about the people who owner train their service animals? I have epilepsy to where I black out/space out/ unresponsive Forget a lot of things Its I'm fair for owner trained SDs
I’m a service dog handler and there was two times I had to stop a whole flight from the US because some lady’s tiny bark machine was endangering my legitimate service dog. It’s outrageous
Pets are allowed on planes. If your dog can't handle that, you need to retrain it. The idea that you stopped an entire flight, and impacted all those people is outrageous. I guess you are the human equivalent of a tiny bark machine.
@@JoyfulNerd400 Your dog was fine, but you had to stop a flight because some tiny dog was barking? You sound like you just like to create drama. There is no way a barking tiny dog will "endanger" you if your dog can ignore it.
Service animals are not the same as emotional support animals - the two are VERY different things, as you noted in the segment. Yet you use the terms interchangeably without defining the differences between the two. That coupled with titling this piece "Fake Service Pets" is misleading.
These people passing off their pets as support or service animals angers me to no end. I have Epilepsy that is very agressive. I found a wonderful dog to train as my service dog ONLY AFTER my doctor wrote documentation that states the medical benefit for a service dog. Although I did register my dog on line and was not asked to provide supporting medical documentation, my dog is being properly trained with a skilled trainer. Since my dog is only 4 months old and obviously in the beginning phase of training, I only take him where dogs (all dogs) are welcome, as not to upset individuals whose service dogs are skilled. In my state, one does not have to register their service or emotional support animal, nor do they have to don any vest or tags. I think that this whole fake support animal issue is terrible, but without stricter legislation, it will continue to be a big problem for those of us who have a genuine medical need.
Highlighted, Thank you for your reply, as someone who is new to all of this, I appreciate your feedback. You are right about stricter legislation. I just wish that those trying to pass off a fake service dog were penalized for their hurtful actions. And agreed, I would never show anyone my medical documentation. Be well.
Thank you for letting me know this..I dont have a service but just a regular dog but i love my dog so now i can lie to all restaurants and everywhere else i go. No Document needed...cool and knowing that they can only ask me only 2 questions..its all lies Lol. well thank you so much main street Boxer. I can stop leaving my dog here at home.
_-Sky-_ RANDOM ESA don't have to be trained and in USA are not allowed to enter "no pet" places but their owners usually need to have a certification from their doctors that explaines why its needed. Service dogs are always very well trained for public access and particular tasks and are allowed everywhere while you don't have to give any proof or certification, having one of those is actually a proof that's a fake SD.
Iris Rainbow You are wrong you don’t need anything from a doctor that says why you need a emotional support animal. I can go online and register my 8 foot snake and take him any place. I can be sitting next to someone that is afraid of them and they can’t say poop. That is the problem not the service animals but the emotional support animal.
froglick28 I said that emotional support animals USUALLY need a doctor certification because that's what I heard its needed if you for example want to move in an appartament where pets are not allowed. I'm also well aware of the fact that there are FAKE web sites where you can register your dog as an SD/ESA. I never said SD are the problem, they simply can't be because of their training.
froglick28 " All registries are Fake and Scams. For ESAs you need a health professionals Note claiming you need the animal as an ESA to help you with your mental disability.
It's sad that because of people taking advantage, people who are dependent legitimately on a service dog get harassed and mistreated. The longer this goes on the more harm will be done for people who rely on their service dog. It takes a very long time and a lot of dedication and money to train a service dog. Getting a legitimate service dog is a long process and because of their specific training these dogs are very expensive. Their not just a puppy you picked up at the pound and put a service animal vest on. I own 4 dogs 2 very large and 2 small ones. My husband and I never travel by Air together because of this. The decision to adopt or buy a dog or any other pet should be made knowing that you are getting an animal that needs care and that because of that your life will change. Getting a dog is a long-term commitment. For people with disabilities their service animal is an important part of their independence. People who just buy a service animal vest so they can take them to the store or fly with them for free. Are acting extremely selfish and irresponsibly service animals are trained not to pay attention to anything but their owners, they are trained not to do their business in the store, train, bus, plane etc. My husband and I travel together with our animals only with our travel trailer. This is the commitment we made when we got our furry babies.
As it stands the ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act does not require any form of indentifiers like a harness, special collar-leash combos, or tags for service dogs. The ADA does not require professional training as long as the owner/trainer is capable of training the dog on his or her own. You still have to adhere to the requirements of the dog having excellent basic obedience and social skills an must alert to the handlers condition and/or be trained to do a minimum of three tasks in order to be labeled as a service dog. Most pet dog owners do not train their dogs in excellent basic obedience let alone train even ok basic obedience.
Only *service* animals should be permitted in public places like diners, shops, and planes. ESA's don't have the training, control, or restraint. Their handlers just register them so they can play a victim, avoid paying rent or for the plane tickets.
yep and if you complain or even try to explain all the reasons and details , people still side with the person with the dog and act like you are full of it because you have stated on ever point of why so n so's dog is not a legit service dog and if a half way legit service animal training organization met the dog theyd say, that the dogs temperament personality demeanor, behavior , he would likely be automatically denied disqualified
i met and known, even lived near a few of these folks who their very nervous high strung, dog was clearly not a service dog ! and yet no one takes your side when you explain this,
'' you could upload your animals picture to the internet to say its a service dog'' i can finally upload a picture of my fish Bubbles to the internet and call it a service dog !! yaay!! :D bubbles is a doggi guys!
Keenan White emotional support dogs are needed in public places depending on the owners disability. Anxiety or depression. People like me and many others have panic attacks that are painful unless you have someone by your side but I have not gotten an emotional support animal yet but they do the same work as a service dog and shouldn’t be distracted in any cases. I have PTSD From pass domestic abuse in my family when I was young when ever that comes up I start scratching myself and it becomes very hard to breath along with a heavy chest weight
Hello It's Jello that would be a service dog then, not an emotional support dog. I have panic attacks, as well as extreme anxiety. My dog will help calm manic moments or lead me to a more calm and safe area away from the problem. He is a service dog, NOT and emotional support dog. Emotional support animals do not need to preform a special task for someone other then comfort. If you need a dog to preform a task, then it is a service dog which is allowed in public places, not an emotional support animal.
A "emotional support dog" is only a fancy name for a pet. I have two dogs and when I´m stressed or sad I like to play with them till I´m relaxed. But they are not trained, they didn´t do any "job" as a service dog that know exactly what to do to help is owner. The dog that the girl in the video has probably would run away if she let the lease go by accident, as all non trained couch potato dogs do.
Hello It's Jello ESA dogs are not allowed in public places. They ARE however allowed on planes due to the high stress situation. Severe cases of anxiety get service dogs. These are differentiated by the dog being able to perform a task (SD) or just being there for comfort (ESA). Doctors differentiate which you need.
I have a legitimate service dog and it's so fucking frustrating when people are like "ohhhh my gawd I have *dramatic breathing* problems so uh my dog fluffy is gonna call me with mee" Like no bitch fluffy isn't coming
Emotinal support dogs arent service dogs according to ADA. you don't need to register a service dog, theres no such thing. Those register websites are scams.
The problem is store owners and managers don't know their rights. If an animal is out of control you are allowed to ask the handler to make other accommodations for the animal then you can continue your business with us. This is not rocket science and the reason there are not a lot of laws about license and things is because people with disabilities don't usually have a lot of money to pay for anything. Everyone and their mother is trying to get money from people with dissablities.
The problem is only half people taking advantage of the system... the other half is enabling by businesses afraid of getting sued! Stop making it easy for people to take advantage! Know the laws!!! They are there for a reason!
She has a great idea. Service animals should be required to have a legitimate state or federal photo id to prove they are what they say they are. It would solve a lot of problems.
3:12 But what about owner trained service dogs? Or psychiatric service dogs? Making dogs have ID's seems like a good idea at first, but it would make it harder for owner trained/ PSD's to get an ID. PSD's are trained differently for every team, so how are they going to make guidelines to tell if it is an SD or not and give the team an ID?
I know someone who has a fake service animal ID. She showed me how she made it. These pple r wrecking things 4 those us who honestly need a service animal.
Not everyone that gets those Id's have fake service dogs! Just because the ID is not legit that alone does not mean the dog is not a legitimate service dog.
I have a service dog that I trained to alert when my heart fails and my defibrillator goes off. I can’t take her with me because I am picked on by people that doesn’t want animals around at all
People do confuse emotional support with a service animal. And they think emotional support gives them same privileges as service animals. There is a lot of false info out there about the two. And there is no registration for them. That is what makes it so easy to just fake it. Cause they are only allowed to ask two questions. They don’t even have to wear vests... I think ID cards would be handy, That way not everyone could acquire it.
Service animals are NOT pets. There are ONLY service dogs and service miniature horses. ESA animals are NOT service animals. Faking a service animal is illegal and can be dangerous for the real service animals. Fake service dogs for example can not only harm the owner but for the service dog. There have been way too many times where somebody brings their pet dog saying its a service dog and the dog harms or scares the service dog to the point of making the real service dog can often make it dog ractive wich makes it unable to do its job in public.
Citygirl Lbrand But you can stay with him if you want. In my country, all i know is you can stay with that animal. Pets are not just "part of the family", you have to take care of him too. When you take care, the animal is a pet too.
@Maria Eduarda R A Silva, no. Service animals are service animals not pets! Service dogs are medical equipment under the law pets are not. Even when off duty service animals still alert and respond to their owners disability.
emotional support dogs by ADA law aren't allowed in public, also ESA's aren't trained to sniff out peanuts in food, actual service dogs are. We need the news to talk about this, to talk about the people who are abusing the law, but please do your research and know what you're talking about when you're saying it on the news.
I know ADA laws because I DO have a service dog, and all registries are fake and it just makes this problem worse because workers can’t kick you off they can only ask “is that a service dog” and “what tasked are it trained to do”
@Main Street Boxer how about you do some research. How do we know if this will work or not. I say we try it in a small group then if it works try it in a larger group.
In Australia an Emotional Support Dog, also known as a Therapy Dog has NONE of the rights of a Service Dog. I have a Therapy Dog, and he has to be registered with an approved therapy organisation AND have an ID. So I would imagine that a Service Dog would also have to be registered. But for me, there is no free doggy flights. (Actually, I think he would hate flying).
Australian service animals ARE registered!, they also have their own public transport passes for travel. Therapy dogs are also slightly different this is an animal brought into nursing homes to interact with clients a whole group, not just one
this lady wants the burden put on disabled people.. that isn't the solution.. especially for owner trained dogs... she is blind and has a dog that is top of it's class... sure she could handle a registration and what not.. probably raised 30k or more for her dog... it will be huge problem for owner trainers with little money... or ability to transport their dogs, plus you do not have to have a licesne to use a wheel cair or anything else, so neither should us SD handlers... put the burden on the fakers!
Are emotional support dogs considered service dogs in Florida? Emotional support animals may be any type of pet (not just dogs) that offers companionship and comfort, but they are not service animals.
My family needs our pets as emotional support. Our doctor is registering us. The people who fake service animals are the worst, other people really need their animals
Kingdomall Just remember, ESAs are not the same as service animals. Service animals spend years training to become service animals. Service animals perform tasks to help their owner. ESAs are just there to give emotional support. Emotional support is not considered a task under ADA law. Meaning ESAs have no public access rights. ESAs are only allowed to ride in the cabin of an airplane with their owner, and are allowed to live in no pet housing.
I have a Service Dog to help me balance because I'm a stroke survivor with 3 knee surgeries. He's 120 lbs and when I flew with him I had to BUY HIM HIS OWN SEAT! Fly free? NOPE!
To add to the confusion the reporters both refer to emotional support animals and the guy at the desk even talked about cats and a duck. The ADA and Florida Statute 413.08 protect handlers of Service Dogs! Emotional Support is not recognized by either.
I don't understand why I limit the service dogs on the flight when you can just leave out the fake ones based on what their actions. I mean I get it some fake service dogs can act like a real service dog, but that still there still ways to leave out the fake ones. As a fellow service dog handler people that own businesses or have a place that the public can come in should have to take a test on ADA service animal laws. As well as have them posted for their employees! Cause I don't know how many times I go into a store and get that one manager that thinks he knows it all harassing me causing me to have an episode cause they aren't educated!
I have owner trained all of my service dogs and an id would make it extremely difficult for people like me who don't go through a program. People should be educating others, not trying to set more rules. The current people who fake service dogs don't care about the law and just want to have "fluffy" with them. Please just educate fakes can be prevented, majority of workers in stores don't know their legal rights when it comes to service dogs.
Drives me nuts - we went through the process to take our pet cat with us across country. Carrier, paid the fees, etc. It was not cheap nor was it exactly easy. We got lucky because Delta has rules on the amount of animals on a plane and I would not have been happy had we gotten booted because of an emotional support pet not a service animal (which I would have been more than happy to be bumped by)
I feel like people forget about service mini horses. And since people think they can just bring any animal as a service or ESA SMH's probably get a bad rap. Now i have never seen one but they do exist and are very important. Allergies are not an excuse to not allow an service animal on a plane.
I Don’t Have Any Emotional Support Animals, But The One Who Would Calm Me & Make Me Laugh & Smile Is My Cat Nico I Adore Her & Love Her She’s Not Emotional Support But She Does Make Me Relax & DeStresses Me When I’m Irritated, Angry or Feeling Down She’s Just a Normal Cat;) But She’s My Bestie & She Adores & Loves Me Too as Her Owner Who Spoils Her Rotten;)🐾🐾🐾😘🥰
Public literally loves when my dog “is well behaved” like they haven’t seen a legitimate service dog. OH WAIT MY TOWN FAKES THEM ALL THE TIME! I’ve even ran into one lady who didn’t label her dog but was on a harness and attached a flexi straight the harness. Didn’t correct the dog when It ran up to me and other shoppers. Also when I tried asking the first question. She blatantly ignored me and rolled her eyes. I took a photo to take to the health department. I’m planning to go soon.
You might consider learning the laws better. The handler chooses what equipment, and there are no laws governing type. You also have NO right to question anyone. Only an employee can and you said you were a shopper. The behavior you describe was inappropriate, but you tell management and let them handle it. If they won’t, they defectors allow pets. The health department won’t get involved unless the store is violating code. There are much better ways to handle those situations.
@@sdigf3167 actually WE DO have a right to question. No where in the law does it say “the public can not ask”. Also where I live, the employees couldn’t give two fucking shits about it. Because their too “terrified the pet owners will sue them.” Also, I do kno my state and federal law.
@@sdigf3167 also, if it’s a fucking grocery store. The health department gets involved when someone violates a health code. WHICH A FUCKING FAKE ASS SERVICE DOG IS A MAJOR HEALTH CODE VIOLATION. I NEVER MET A PET IN A STORE THAT WASN’T IN A CART OR GETTING IN THE PRODUCTS!
@@sd.lulu.multipurpose5306 No, you don’t have the “right” and if it is seen as harassment YOU will be the one in trouble. No one has to answer your questions and not answering means absolutely nothing. If the person is disabled. The bar for harassment is lower, so you may find yourself in jail if you persist. The disabled person is still protected if their dog is not well trained. You are the worst kind of fake spotter who gives ALL handlers a bad name. You would also have to prove in court that the dog was a pet, and a picture will not do that. Just stop. You make people think all handlers are drama queens.
This is quite potentially animal cruelty. It would be overwhelming for the animal and an over-stimulating environment for it as well. I’m sure that for the pig, it was scared and that’s why it couldn’t stop squealing and then defecated on the seat. And what about the possibility of painful ear pressure? Do people ever think about that?
Omg, when even the news station is wrong. ESA do have the right to fly in cabin with owner, and ESA’s HAVE to have a doctors note prescribing them to their owner as part of their treatment. They ONLY have Housing and Flying rights. ESA aren’t and will never be categorized as service animal as they do not provide a task to migrate their handlers disability such as Mobility, guiding, medical alert, medical response etc. Service animals provide a handler a counter for their disability or migrate it. This means the dog MUST be trained to do a task that lessens the severity of their handlers disability or helps them manage. A disability under ADA law states that in order to be considered disabled, your disability has to limit one or more major life activities such as eating, sleeping, walking, talking, seeing, hearing, thinking, concentrating. Etc. The dog also must be well behaved and under constant control of their animal, an establishment is legally allowed to remove the dog from the premises if the dog cannot be controlled by the handler, disrupts the establishment, or if the animal poses any kind of threat to the other patrons such as barking, snarling, lunging, pulling, jumping up on patrons, eating off the floor, sniffing or destroying merchandise, or not being House broken. Lastly according to the ADA their are two types of service animals; dogs and miniature horses; that’s it, no cats, fish, snake, or any other kind of animal besides those two.
It could also stop the possibility of animals transporting devises for terriorist on planes if the became stricter if one takes a moment and thought about it. I do not think it will effect service animals who are licensed before a certain month and year now but a new re certification by medical professionals should be mandated. Those ledgitimatly would continue, those not , it will stop.
In the US there is no registration nor certification for service animals, all the websites claiming to sell these are scams. For an Emotional Support Animal you need a doctors note.
Little Mix Lover .....Thank you for letting me know. I thought I did it right but you proved me wrong. I thought that since it took me 5 or 6 weeks to get it, that it was ledgit. I am disabled and my specialist doctor recommended one. But if I can get what ever form it is from the doctor to sign, he would without issue as he signed every form I ever taken to him. Unfortunately now that these are considered fake, I feel as if I lied about my dog to the home owners association when I bought my new home. But the association seen the i.d. cards and let my dog in as service animal under and for medical reasons with having surgeries every 2 to 3 weeks on both feet. Thank you kindly for the valuble information. What is your recommendation if I may ask?
Albino Red Eared Slider, I recommend not using the ID again, as you are making it (not saying you did it on purpose, you simply didn't know and I don't blame you) harder for the next service dog team that doesn't have an ID. You could ask your doctor for a note saying you need your SD 24/7 but that doesn't have any legal standing either. Also, your service dog isn't legally required to wear a vest/be labelled as a service animal, but many handlers choose to do so anyway to help the general public to understand that they're not allowed to pet the animal. If you have any more questions, or just want to chat, you can always DM me on Instagram, my username is: sofie3_p.sd4
Little Mix Lover ......Thank you so very much. Yes I did not know and I guess I am disgusted with paying 160 dollars for fake documents only to show without knowledge to the home owner association. I do not have a Instagram account or Facebook at the moment as my ex had caused to much drama and I am a drama free individual. I am going to create a account for my small business from home soon selling very expensive turtles ( hence my screen name here and the picture of one of my many albino Turtles as my Avatar). Once I make a account, I would be honored to chat with you more. Your knowledge is great and thank you for that, It means a lot.
Albino Red Eared Slider, no problem! I am getting a service dog around Christmas 2018 and I really would LOVE to help you out! Though I feel like I should tell you this, I myself am not American, I am actually European, but I know each and every American laws there is about Service Dogs, I hope this makes no difference, as I love to help!
In the USA. The ADA says there is no registration for ESAs or Service animals. People with ESAs only have rights under the fair housing act and I see them in public all the time. Breaking the law and putting service animal ls at risk
Only dogs can be service animals. Any other animal can be a therapy animal or a companion animal. Service dogs go through very intense training in order to properly help their owner and the answer to 'why you need it' is because they are disabled. Any further questioning would compare to a clerk at the grocery store asking you why you need the tampons that you are purchasing.
you do actually. businesses are allowed two questions; is that a service dog, and what tasks is it trained to do. it's illegal to pester about the specific disabilities. Only dogs and small horses can be actual service animals, ESAs are different and more varied. training is what MAKES a service animal. the ADA bas no official registry system, just scams sites online selling you unnescescary IDs the government doesn't really require. so without training for soecific tasks to help your disability, you don't have a service animal....bottom line. Also, you are permitted to train them yourself, so you don't need to go through a training program specifically for service dogs or anything as every person's needs for that dog are different. your comment is a little redundant, since there's already training required to be considered a SD and certain questioning businesses may do.
I know a lot of service dog handlers would be against it, but I think it would only make things better if we had an official ID like a DL. If nothing else it would combat the fake ones... and be easier for those of us with PTSD and/or anxiety etc...
@Main Street Boxer That's the whole point, they are showing fake ID's and paperwork, so if we had official IDs it would stop them. Plus we wouldn't have to show them every time, only when asked. And again, it's easier/less stressful/less panic attack for ppl like me with PTSD to just simply hand them or have my sd hand them an official ID. The person scans it hands it back to dog or me and we're on our way, No harm done. It would be by discression/on request type thing.
well everyone says regulation is bad so that would be wrong to have anything like that regulated, we shouldnt even have a dept of transportation just let the free market handle that.
I lost my eyesight for 8 months and probably will be blind . I know for a fact I would not be able to produce a piece of paper because it was hard enough to tie my shoes.
I have a ESA dog and I did fill out online. I also had to provide a therapist prescription, name address after I had did all that I did not have to pay for the esa prescription but everything else
Wait, how does the ESA help with a peanut allergy? Does it sniff out and warn the handler if it detects nuts? If so then that's a task and could be a service animal. If not then wth and how does it help??
If service dogs are medical equipment and since a fake service dog is a risk to the public, then why not classify them like risky drugs and require a prescription to bring them in public? I can't carry a handful of Vicodin around without a valid prescription, so why not for service dogs? Most people with disabilities (including me) see doctors on a regular basis anyway, so it wouldn't be that big of an inconvenience. There could be different classifications for the service dog depending on the level of access needed. You could also have a certain dog's permission to work revoked (temporarily or permanently, depending on the level of misbehavior) if they caused trouble (limiting the impact of doctors who give out prescriptions willy-nilly) while still allowing that person to have the prescription so they could try a different dog.
@Chocolate Covered Labrador Do you always make ad hominem attacks, or just when you can't think of a decent counterargument? 1. Fake service dogs do harm. They can attack people and distract or attack other service dogs or service dogs in training. There are many disabled people who have spent years training their dog or waiting for a trained dog only to have their dog ruined by an attack. Fake service dogs also make business owners and members of the public wary of legitimate service dogs, encouraging them to harass or deny access to disabled people, even if it's illegal. 2. A law that cannot be enforced might as well not exist. Unless you have effective means of enforcing the laws against fake service dogs, you might as well not have those laws at all. 3. The most reliable form of enforcement of these kinds of laws is to have a visible indicator of compliance with the law. In this case, a simple tag on the collar that could only be obtained with a prescription. Possibly different tags for different degrees of access. The tag wouldn't state the owner's disability, just that the dog was a service dog. Perhaps with a holographic state seal or something to make it hard to forge. 4. Doctors often over-prescribe, so by revoking the prescription if the dog misbehaves, the impact of people who pretend to need a service dog is limited. If they don't really need the dog, but it's well-behaved, no problem. If they just made something up so they can take their poodle to the movies and it wreaks havoc, their dog is considered malfunctioning equipment and the owner must use a different dog. This also protects doctors and insurance companies from lawsuits for not confirming each individual dog's suitability. The onus would be on the owner to ensure the dog's suitability and safety to the public. 5. The law could easily require all insurance companies to cover the cost of the prescription tag. Not the cost of the dog or its training, just the legal documentation allowing it public access. It would not be a burden on them, since such tags are cheap to make. 6. The law would also enable a ban on the sale of service dog vests/paraphernalia to anyone who did not provide proof of a service dog prescription. Unprotected terms, like assistance dog, therapy dog, emotional support dog, etc. would be unaffected. 7. Since a prescription tag is small and subtle, and most average people wouldn't notice it, it would work well for people who don't want their disability to be obvious. However, if a store owner wanted to confirm that the dog was a legit service dog, they could just ask to see the tag. No, "Is that a service dog?" and "What task does it perform?" and just taking the handler's word. Just, "Is that a service dog?" and "May I see its tag?" That's it. 8. If you are going to consider a dog to be medical equipment, you have to accept its regulation as such. There are many kinds of medical equipment that can't be obtained without a prescription. If fake service dogs are a problem, requiring real service dogs to be prescription-only is a viable solution.
@Chocolate Covered Labrador You make some interesting points, thanks for sharing them. 1. That's like saying it's not a fake police officer; it's a civilian wearing a costume that looks like a public official. A person can fake a disability all they want as long as they aren't harming others, but the dogs are the issue here (AFAIK, no other medical equipment has been known to run away from its owner and attack other medical equipment), so it's appropriate to refer to the dogs as fake service dogs. Also, I don't think it's possible to prevent fraud without affecting honest people. It's also not possible to *ignore* fraud without affecting honest people. Personally, I'd rather have the lesser of those two evils. 2. My ideas would enable more enforcement than we currently have, so I disagree. 3. All people (including disabled people) are legally required to carry a prescription with their medicines proving the meds belong to them. There was a girl in my hometown who was arrested for having a single pill of adderall in her pocket. She had a prescription, but since she didn't have it with her, she was arrested for drug possession. I take tramadol for occasional severe pain. I often have to renew the prescription long before I actually run out of pills because I could be arrested if I carry them with an expired prescription. Do prescriptions not count as documentation? 4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doctors don't currently prescribe service animals, so I think you're trolling me here. I am speaking to my own personal experience with many different doctors as well as a variety of news articles about over-prescription of painkillers. (I assume that if doctors are willing to over-prescribe drugs that could get them arrested, they are probably just as willing to over-prescribe other drugs and equipment.) Besides, even if the first three words of that paragraph are incorrect, the rest still stands. 5. Considering different options regarding the practical implementation of a policy is not drivel. In fact, not considering them results in policies with giant loopholes, like the current laws regarding service animals. 6. Well, you can't legally purchase a fake handicap parking tag online, can you? One of the problems people have mentioned about fake service dogs is that you can easily buy a vest that makes the dog look legitimate. If service dogs are allowed access to places where pets are not normally allowed, it should not be so easy for pets to be falsely labelled as service dogs. 7. It would be easy to make the service dog tag inconspicuous, no different from a rabies tag (except maybe a holographic seal on the back to make it hard to forge, as I mentioned). The dog would look like a regular dog unless the owner wanted otherwise. The only people who would examine the tag would be those who would have confronted the disabled person anyway. Except, instead of asking "Is that a service dog?" and "What task does it perform?", they would ask to see the tag and wouldn't even need to know what task the dog performed. The law could easily include an exception so the disabled person could refuse to show the tag if the person who asked was not in a position to deny access to the disabled person. In that case, a store manager could legally inspect the tag, but a store patron couldn't. That's more privacy protection than the current law provides. 8. I was using the general "you", not you specifically. If the law considers service animals to be medical equipment, then *we* must accept their regulation as such. You are correct that the law does not permit this as it stands. However, laws can be amended. If there is enough public support, a bill could be passed creating new restrictions on the use of service animals. If there is a high-profile case where a fake service dog attacks someone, people will want new laws. Unfortunately, the laws created in situations like that are often problematic. I propose we come up with something practical, effective, and minimally disruptive before that happens. Ounce of prevention, you know? Considering how many disabled people with service dogs are talking here in the comments about how fake service dogs negatively affect them, I don't think I'm being ablest by suggesting a solution.
Emotional support animal for anxiety and peanut allergy? Really? I have panic disorder and a fear of flying. Can I get a dog that is "registered" as an emotional support animal too?
>tries to people its bad to have a fake service animal >At beginning of video she gives a step by step explanation of how easy it is to get a fake service animal. Why would you teach or explain how easy it is to do something bad. It's like saying meth is bad and that people shouldn't do it, yet giving them a guide on how to make it.
Katelyn Pendergraff Yes, he comes with me everywhere but I make sure to allows have his papers with me and he is trained to behave in public so most places allow him.
Katelyn Pendergraff actually it is not illegal to have them in public it is up to the property owner and the mentioned papers is the esa letter that makes him a emotional assistance dog.
Katelyn Pendergraff the owners of the businesses let me have my dog there. Also I am fully aware of the false sites, I do not need to prove to you that I have a real esa. And for your information he is being trained to be a psychiatric service dog.
Katelyn Pendergraff If it becomes a service dog guess what? There are a bunch of ways it can help, maybe he/she will train their dog to put a paw or do something to show their anxiety is coming, maybe they can train it to help them with anxiety such as blocking people from trying to start conversations or something.
Katelyn Pendergraff You make a drama in this country. Here in Austria you can take your pets nearly everywhere in public, also in stores (except for food stores) except for museums, cinema etc. Everybody is fine with it and we don't make any drama whenever a goddamn dog is sitting in a restaurant or in the subway. I always go shopping with my normal dogs and nobody ever got offended by it. And again, it's completely legal here.
Where I live if you have a service dog or even an emotional support animal you have to go to the health department and the health department will say yes you really need this animal or no you don't need this animal and through the health department they will say that this animal has been trained to be a service dog and it has the right requirements to go out in public it has been trained everything like that and they actually make sure you really truly need this animal versus going online to pay like $60 to register a fake animal
*there is no such thing as “dog registry” for a service animal or an ESA*
Archer960 so you dont need a number to id your service dog
@@javier19932011 No.
ergensinnooitgedachtland no you would just have to register in Canada
Thank you! You get IT!
**Fake Service Pets**
2:08 "Emotional support animals are not the same as service animals"
I am a guide dog puppy trainer and this is a huge problem. With my service dog in training people with fake service dogs bark and growl in stores. It’s outrageous and not to mention how inconsiderate the owners are. People try to purposely distract my dog by making different noises and exited movements.
Heidi Willard growling is still not allowed as it is an aggression signal. And my own service dog is trained to bark one time when we are in a dark space and she first notices a person I might not have noticed. She does not bark at other dogs, she is silenced after one signal bark during the proper circumstances (not a grocery store), and if she does bark in inappropriate places/times we leave in order to enforce that if she behaves poorly she loses public privileges. Barking at other dogs, growling at ANYTHING, snapping, lunging. Those are all completely unacceptable behaviors and show a “handler” has zero actual control over their dog. Thusly making it a fake service dog.
Lynxxheart you can judge what's what all you want but that does not make you correct unless you have the kind of facts to back it up. In other words PROOF that a dog has not been trained to perform tasks for a disabled person is the only thing that would show they are fake! What you described that alone does NOT make a service dog a fake! A service dog has to be trained to perform the tasks necessary for their disabled owner. They do not have to be trained to not bark. Now to get in public places they do have to behave while there or they can be kicked out. A person hard of hearing trains their dogs to bark when their owners need to be aware of something they can not hear. But that's not the point the point is you can have either a service dog that behaves or a service dog that doesn't behave. If it does not behave that alone does NOT make it a fake service dog! A growling service dog should never be taken out in pubic but growling alone does not mean it's a fake service dog!
Lucia Brown - There are two parts to this problem, both of which are wreaking havoc for legitimate service dogs and their handlers.
Problem 1 - People claiming to have a service dog which are clearly not. Service dogs in Canada, and I presume the rest of the world, are trained by accredited organizations and trainers to perform specific tasks for people with disabilities, such as seeing eye dogs, mobility assistance, retrieving, alerting etc... These fake service dogs are a bit easier to deal with then problem 2 because it's a bit more cut and dry.
Problem 2 - Emotional support "animals" which is a vague term which is not regulated in any way whatsoever. These animals are pets which people assert they need to have with them all the time to deal with a plethora of mental health issues. I wouldn't have an issue with this if these animals (which I don't think a duck, or a pig or a goat should qualify) were somehow trained and tested to a standard which deems them temperamentally fit to be in public spaces.
One of my dogs is a certified and therapy dog who works in a children's hospital and nursing homes. It was a very involved process to have my dog certified which required hundreds of hours of training and he had to pass multiple tests to ensure that he was temperamentally sound. It is an ongoing certification where I have to have him retested every two years and submit work reports and vet verifications that the dog is in to health. He also needs to be impeccably groomed before he goes to work (he is a Bernese/Aussie Shepherd cross so this is a fair amount of work).
Not every dog is cut out for service work. My other dog, is a big, lovely mutt. He is the sweetest dog but he doesn't have the attention span or rock solid confidence my other dog does. That is just the way he is. No less a dog, but just not fit for service.
I have flown with both of my dogs and they travel in crates in storage. They aren't service dogs and although I could easily pass my therapy dog off as a service or emotional support dog I would never do it. At the end of the day I am pretty grateful I am fortunate enough to not require a service dog, so I want to make those people living with a disability as hassle free as possible.
So...Just what service does your dog provide???
Heidi Willard - So how exactly does one determine whether or not a dog is an actual service dog and actually provides a service to compensate for a physical disability or disease?
Doing this is like using a wheelchair because u don’t feel like walking
I can walk but at times I use a wheelchair because I have MS and get tired. Faking a service dog is not like using a wheelchair at times and walking at times.
ELI ICD she means mediforicly like people just want to bring there dogs when there is nothing wrong with them lol
@@isabellaherb2216 I understand that. I have had my own encounters with fake service dogs over the years. It is like using medical equipment when you have no disability, as service animals are medical equipment. Fake esa are just as bad as fake service dogs.
@@eliicd303 he said “because you don’t “feel” like walking”. So his analogy is correct and this does not apply in your case. In your case, it sounds like you get tired because you have a debilitating disease. But his analogy was pretty good I feel.
Medifior is metaphorically??
Dont call it a service pet. Service dogs are not pets they are medical equipment when working.
They are calling them service pets because they are talking about fake service dogs are just pets I hope that makes sense
Rebecca Ackley yes
Rebecca Ackley they are not equipment nor are they pets they are service animals
Typical Alien they are labeled as medical equipment even though they’re sentient
they are not equipment, they are like a personal disability assistant ! an aide
What's funny is that the fake service dog owners always claim every other dog is fake, but theirs
Oh this? It's just my service boa constricter. When I get panicked it applies DEEP pressure therapy.
It's so ridiculous that this has been allowed to go on for so long. It needs strict regulation and forced compliance. They should be required to have government issued ids, just like driver licenses. Its not fair to those handlers who truly need their service pets with them at all times to have to contend with all the jerks and their fake service pets.
Monarch Serenity and the sad part is alot of these people with service animals can't even control their animals!
I stand by my comment.
Monarch Serenity I back it. Too many people claim to have ridiculous disabilies and take crazy animals around with them. A few weeks ago on my job, a few guys had snakes with them holding them and i refused to ring them up (because of my fear of snakes) and I think one of guys said it was for his anxiety! I told my supervisor he would have to service them. This was at a Walmart.
Tampabruh It is definitely reaching absurd heights.
What about the people who owner train their service animals? I have epilepsy to where I black out/space out/ unresponsive
Forget a lot of things
Its I'm fair for owner trained SDs
I’m a service dog handler and there was two times I had to stop a whole flight from the US because some lady’s tiny bark machine was endangering my legitimate service dog. It’s outrageous
Pets are allowed on planes. If your dog can't handle that, you need to retrain it. The idea that you stopped an entire flight, and impacted all those people is outrageous. I guess you are the human equivalent of a tiny bark machine.
@@shakeyj4523 my dog was just fine, he was at my feet already falling asleep, hers was not
@@JoyfulNerd400 Your dog was fine, but you had to stop a flight because some tiny dog was barking? You sound like you just like to create drama. There is no way a barking tiny dog will "endanger" you if your dog can ignore it.
@@shakeyj4523 me? They told her to leave the plane, how on earth is it my fault?
@@shakeyj4523 and for the record it doesn’t endanger my dog it distracts my dog which might then not alert and I could die.
Service animals are not the same as emotional support animals - the two are VERY different things, as you noted in the segment. Yet you use the terms interchangeably without defining the differences between the two. That coupled with titling this piece "Fake Service Pets" is misleading.
These people passing off their pets as support or service animals angers me to no end. I have Epilepsy that is very agressive. I found a wonderful dog to train as my service dog ONLY AFTER my doctor wrote documentation that states the medical benefit for a service dog. Although I did register my dog on line and was not asked to provide supporting medical documentation, my dog is being properly trained with a skilled trainer. Since my dog is only 4 months old and obviously in the beginning phase of training, I only take him where dogs (all dogs) are welcome, as not to upset individuals whose service dogs are skilled. In my state, one does not have to register their service or emotional support animal, nor do they have to don any vest or tags. I think that this whole fake support animal issue is terrible, but without stricter legislation, it will continue to be a big problem for those of us who have a genuine medical need.
Highlighted, Thank you for your reply, as someone who is new to all of this, I appreciate your feedback. You are right about stricter legislation. I just wish that those trying to pass off a fake service dog were penalized for their hurtful actions. And agreed, I would never show anyone my medical documentation. Be well.
Thank you for letting me know this..I dont have a service but just a regular dog but i love my dog so now i can lie to all restaurants and everywhere else i go. No Document needed...cool and knowing that they can only ask me only 2 questions..its all lies Lol. well thank you so much main street Boxer. I can stop leaving my dog here at home.
@@JustDavechannel Crackdowns are now happening in some places.
Emotional support dogs are not even service dogs...
_-Sky-_ RANDOM you said key words trained most are not
_-Sky-_ RANDOM ESA don't have to be trained and in USA are not allowed to enter "no pet" places but their owners usually need to have a certification from their doctors that explaines why its needed. Service dogs are always very well trained for public access and particular tasks and are allowed everywhere while you don't have to give any proof or certification, having one of those is actually a proof that's a fake SD.
Iris Rainbow You are wrong you don’t need anything from a doctor that says why you need a emotional support animal. I can go online and register my 8 foot snake and take him any place. I can be sitting next to someone that is afraid of them and they can’t say poop. That is the problem not the service animals but the emotional support animal.
froglick28 I said that emotional support animals USUALLY need a doctor certification because that's what I heard its needed if you for example want to move in an appartament where pets are not allowed. I'm also well aware of the fact that there are FAKE web sites where you can register your dog as an SD/ESA. I never said SD are the problem, they simply can't be because of their training.
froglick28 " All registries are Fake and Scams. For ESAs you need a health professionals Note claiming you need the animal as an ESA to help you with your mental disability.
It's sad that because of people taking advantage, people who are dependent legitimately on a service dog get harassed and mistreated. The longer this goes on the more harm will be done for people who rely on their service dog. It takes a very long time and a lot of dedication and money to train a service dog. Getting a legitimate service dog is a long process and because of their specific training these dogs are very expensive. Their not just a puppy you picked up at the pound and put a service animal vest on. I own 4 dogs 2 very large and 2 small ones. My husband and I never travel by Air together because of this. The decision to adopt or buy a dog or any other pet should be made knowing that you are getting an animal that needs care and that because of that your life will change. Getting a dog is a long-term commitment. For people with disabilities their service animal is an important part of their independence. People who just buy a service animal vest so they can take them to the store or fly with them for free. Are acting extremely selfish and irresponsibly service animals are trained not to pay attention to anything but their owners, they are trained not to do their business in the store, train, bus, plane etc. My husband and I travel together with our animals only with our travel trailer. This is the commitment we made when we got our furry babies.
As it stands the ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act does not require any form of indentifiers like a harness, special collar-leash combos, or tags for service dogs. The ADA does not require professional training as long as the owner/trainer is capable of training the dog on his or her own. You still have to adhere to the requirements of the dog having excellent basic obedience and social skills an must alert to the handlers condition and/or be trained to do a minimum of three tasks in order to be labeled as a service dog. Most pet dog owners do not train their dogs in excellent basic obedience let alone train even ok basic obedience.
emotional animals do not belong in a grocery store
there is no such thing as a "service pet" pets are NOT service animals and service animals are NOT pets :)
Megan Howie is there such thing as service cats? If i ever need a service pet or anything then i want a service cat.☺
Only *service* animals should be permitted in public places like diners, shops, and planes. ESA's don't have the training, control, or restraint. Their handlers just register them so they can play a victim, avoid paying rent or for the plane tickets.
yep and if you complain or even try to explain all the reasons and details , people still side with the person with the dog and act like you are full of it because you have stated on ever point of why so n so's dog is not a legit service dog and if a half way legit service animal training organization met the dog theyd say, that the dogs temperament personality demeanor, behavior , he would likely be automatically denied disqualified
i met and known, even lived near a few of these folks who their very nervous high strung, dog was clearly not a service dog ! and yet no one takes your side when you explain this,
How does an ESA help with a peanut allergy? 😂😂 lord Jesus I hate ESAs and fake service dogs
Too may people bring their "emotional support fleas" on board airline flights... it's getting that bizarre!
'' you could upload your animals picture to the internet to say its a service dog'' i can finally upload a picture of my fish Bubbles to the internet and call it a service dog !! yaay!! :D bubbles is a doggi guys!
Good luck trying to convince a fish is a dog. ;)
that's the problem with these esa registries, they're SCAMS and will register a stuffed toy as long as you pay them @@theapparatus
I'll register my cockroach 🪳 as a service animal!
If laws want to figure if a service dog is real or fake is to test its behaveoir
They are prohibited from 'testing' any service dog.
oreodoggerr , if the dog barks, or misbehaves, the business owner or manager can legally ask that the animal be removed
@@BroccoliBeefed No, a Service dog can bark to alert, and can not be asked to leave the business if the bark was a task.
God forbid travelers who are allergic, they'll get kicked off the plane
EMOTIONAL SUPPORT DOGS are NOT ALLOWED in PUBLIC places!! Only SERVICE DOGS
Keenan White emotional support dogs are needed in public places depending on the owners disability. Anxiety or depression. People like me and many others have panic attacks that are painful unless you have someone by your side but I have not gotten an emotional support animal yet but they do the same work as a service dog and shouldn’t be distracted in any cases. I have PTSD From pass domestic abuse in my family when I was young when ever that comes up I start scratching myself and it becomes very hard to breath along with a heavy chest weight
Hello It's Jello that would be a service dog then, not an emotional support dog. I have panic attacks, as well as extreme anxiety. My dog will help calm manic moments or lead me to a more calm and safe area away from the problem. He is a service dog, NOT and emotional support dog. Emotional support animals do not need to preform a special task for someone other then comfort. If you need a dog to preform a task, then it is a service dog which is allowed in public places, not an emotional support animal.
A "emotional support dog" is only a fancy name for a pet. I have two dogs and when I´m stressed or sad I like to play with them till I´m relaxed. But they are not trained, they didn´t do any "job" as a service dog that know exactly what to do to help is owner. The dog that the girl in the video has probably would run away if she let the lease go by accident, as all non trained couch potato dogs do.
Hello It's Jello ESA dogs are not allowed in public places. They ARE however allowed on planes due to the high stress situation. Severe cases of anxiety get service dogs. These are differentiated by the dog being able to perform a task (SD) or just being there for comfort (ESA). Doctors differentiate which you need.
@@daniwilliams4365 Wrong. Emotional support animals are NOT allowed in public, no matter what your mental issues are.
It’s so much easier for people to title their animals an esa because people usually can’t even tell one task that their “service dog” can do
I have a legitimate service dog and it's so fucking frustrating when people are like "ohhhh my gawd I have *dramatic breathing* problems so uh my dog fluffy is gonna call me with mee"
Like no bitch fluffy isn't coming
I believe in service dogs but NOT emotional support dogs.
Emotinal support dogs arent service dogs according to ADA. you don't need to register a service dog, theres no such thing. Those register websites are scams.
@Main Street Boxer your allowed to take a service dog onto a plane. And you can tske ESA's but ESA's arent service dogs.
@Main Street Boxer yes some airlines dont let you. But most do.
@Main Street Boxer i know the laws. What i was saying is that they called a esa a service dog. When they arent. Thats all
i LOVE LOVE LOVE that the news is bringing attention to this!!
How did all these people survive and live life before there were "service animals"?
Emotional support animals are not covered by the ADA
Heidi Willard,
They are not covered, for anything, by the ADA. They are covered or other things under different laws, but not the ADA.
If you had been cloned, you would not have received notification of the post. Perhaps someone used your account.
Emotional Support animals are not covered by the ADA so if airlines are giving them the same rights as a Service animal then that is their fault.
service animals are not PETS. they are medical equipment and should never be classified as a pet.
Service animals are animals and should be free to be animals!
@@chrissysaechao4939 they have plenty of time to be animals. if you have a service dog, it has to like it’s job
The problem is store owners and managers don't know their rights. If an animal is out of control you are allowed to ask the handler to make other accommodations for the animal then you can continue your business with us. This is not rocket science and the reason there are not a lot of laws about license and things is because people with disabilities don't usually have a lot of money to pay for anything. Everyone and their mother is trying to get money from people with dissablities.
The problem is only half people taking advantage of the system... the other half is enabling by businesses afraid of getting sued! Stop making it easy for people to take advantage! Know the laws!!! They are there for a reason!
I have an ESA that I fly with and I always pay for him and he stays in a kennel below my feet. ESAs are not trained service dogs. The end.
Why in the world would you pay for your esa to fly?
My service dog has been mistaken as fake a few times , but hi is a real service dog 🐕
Don’t bother Reading my name I know how you feel me to!🐶
She has a great idea. Service animals should be required to have a legitimate state or federal photo id to prove they are what they say they are. It would solve a lot of problems.
I like this idea too. It would be so much easier for someone like me with PTSD and anxiety to hand someone an ID, if asked.
3:12 But what about owner trained service dogs? Or psychiatric service dogs? Making dogs have ID's seems like a good idea at first, but it would make it harder for owner trained/ PSD's to get an ID. PSD's are trained differently for every team, so how are they going to make guidelines to tell if it is an SD or not and give the team an ID?
I know someone who has a fake service animal ID. She showed me how she made it. These pple r wrecking things 4 those us who honestly need a service animal.
Have her arrested.
Not everyone that gets those Id's have fake service dogs! Just because the ID is not legit that alone does not mean the dog is not a legitimate service dog.
I have a service dog that I trained to alert when my heart fails and my defibrillator goes off. I can’t take her with me because I am picked on by people that doesn’t want animals around at all
That is so wrong. It is up to these airlines and other business to come up with a plan to deal with these liars.
I would rather sit next to a dog or cat than a stinking human!!!! "People that don't like animals have no soul!!!!
ESA isn't a service animal though I would know I have a Service dog an ESA is just considered a pet and any pet can make you feel good so...
People do confuse emotional support with a service animal. And they think emotional support gives them same privileges as service animals. There is a lot of false info out there about the two. And there is no registration for them. That is what makes it so easy to just fake it. Cause they are only allowed to ask two questions. They don’t even have to wear vests... I think ID cards would be handy, That way not everyone could acquire it.
Living in a world where feelings trump facts... It's sickening and horrifying
I agree 100% with Ms. Wilburn !!!
Service animals are NOT pets.
There are ONLY service dogs and service miniature horses.
ESA animals are NOT service animals.
Faking a service animal is illegal and can be dangerous for the real service animals. Fake service dogs for example can not only harm the owner but for the service dog. There have been way too many times where somebody brings their pet dog saying its a service dog and the dog harms or scares the service dog to the point of making the real service dog can often make it dog ractive wich makes it unable to do its job in public.
Shari Carr You are right but they still pets, even if they are service dog, cat, horse ... etc
Citygirl Lbrand But you can stay with him if you want. In my country, all i know is you can stay with that animal. Pets are not just "part of the family", you have to take care of him too. When you take care, the animal is a pet too.
Heidi Willard I'm still think they are pets
@Maria Eduarda R A Silva, no. Service animals are service animals not pets! Service dogs are medical equipment under the law pets are not. Even when off duty service animals still alert and respond to their owners disability.
Within the first 30 secs everything they said was wrong. There is no registration for ESA and service dogs
There is a registration for esa they are not SD!! There is no registration for a service dogs
emotional support dogs by ADA law aren't allowed in public, also ESA's aren't trained to sniff out peanuts in food, actual service dogs are. We need the news to talk about this, to talk about the people who are abusing the law, but please do your research and know what you're talking about when you're saying it on the news.
I know ADA laws because I DO have a service dog, and all registries are fake and it just makes this problem worse because workers can’t kick you off they can only ask “is that a service dog” and “what tasked are it trained to do”
Yep, federal or state IDs issued to the animal/owner will cure this.
@Main Street Boxer how about you do some research. How do we know if this will work or not. I say we try it in a small group then if it works try it in a larger group.
In Australia an Emotional Support Dog, also known as a Therapy Dog has NONE of the rights of a Service Dog. I have a Therapy Dog, and he has to be registered with an approved therapy organisation AND have an ID. So I would imagine that a Service Dog would also have to be registered. But for me, there is no free doggy flights. (Actually, I think he would hate flying).
Australian service animals ARE registered!, they also have their own public transport passes for travel. Therapy dogs are also slightly different this is an animal brought into nursing homes to interact with clients a whole group, not just one
this lady wants the burden put on disabled people.. that isn't the solution.. especially for owner trained dogs... she is blind and has a dog that is top of it's class... sure she could handle a registration and what not.. probably raised 30k or more for her dog... it will be huge problem for owner trainers with little money... or ability to transport their dogs, plus you do not have to have a licesne to use a wheel cair or anything else, so neither should us SD handlers... put the burden on the fakers!
ESA are not the same as service animals, that’s what people need to realize!
Are emotional support dogs considered service dogs in Florida?
Emotional support animals may be any type of pet (not just dogs) that offers companionship and comfort, but they are not service animals.
My family needs our pets as emotional support. Our doctor is registering us.
The people who fake service animals are the worst, other people really need their animals
Kingdomall Just remember, ESAs are not the same as service animals. Service animals spend years training to become service animals. Service animals perform tasks to help their owner. ESAs are just there to give emotional support. Emotional support is not considered a task under ADA law. Meaning ESAs have no public access rights. ESAs are only allowed to ride in the cabin of an airplane with their owner, and are allowed to live in no pet housing.
Your doctor is NOT registering your esa anywhere because that does NOT exist.
I have rlly bad anxiety sometimes I can’t breathe I feel weak and shake a lot I don’t want a service dog tho ever!
drink more water
I have a Service Dog to help me balance because I'm a stroke survivor with 3 knee surgeries. He's 120 lbs and when I flew with him I had to BUY HIM HIS OWN SEAT! Fly free? NOPE!
If they did that I believe back then it is against the law
To add to the confusion the reporters both refer to emotional support animals and the guy at the desk even talked about cats and a duck. The ADA and Florida Statute 413.08 protect handlers of Service Dogs! Emotional Support is not recognized by either.
I don't understand why I limit the service dogs on the flight when you can just leave out the fake ones based on what their actions. I mean I get it some fake service dogs can act like a real service dog, but that still there still ways to leave out the fake ones. As a fellow service dog handler people that own businesses or have a place that the public can come in should have to take a test on ADA service animal laws. As well as have them posted for their employees! Cause I don't know how many times I go into a store and get that one manager that thinks he knows it all harassing me causing me to have an episode cause they aren't educated!
I have owner trained all of my service dogs and an id would make it extremely difficult for people like me who don't go through a program. People should be educating others, not trying to set more rules. The current people who fake service dogs don't care about the law and just want to have "fluffy" with them. Please just educate fakes can be prevented, majority of workers in stores don't know their legal rights when it comes to service dogs.
Drives me nuts - we went through the process to take our pet cat with us across country. Carrier, paid the fees, etc. It was not cheap nor was it exactly easy. We got lucky because Delta has rules on the amount of animals on a plane and I would not have been happy had we gotten booted because of an emotional support pet not a service animal (which I would have been more than happy to be bumped by)
Ok I have severe anxiety and take medicine and sees a therapist I also have peanut allergies but I don't need a service dog.....
service dogs are for people who can hardly function without them, give or take
Johnna unicorn lol dout it
I feel like people forget about service mini horses. And since people think they can just bring any animal as a service or ESA SMH's probably get a bad rap. Now i have never seen one but they do exist and are very important. Allergies are not an excuse to not allow an service animal on a plane.
I Don’t Have Any Emotional Support Animals, But The One Who Would Calm Me & Make Me Laugh & Smile Is My Cat Nico I Adore Her & Love Her She’s Not Emotional Support But She Does Make Me Relax & DeStresses Me When I’m Irritated, Angry or Feeling Down She’s Just a Normal Cat;) But She’s My Bestie & She Adores & Loves Me Too as Her Owner Who Spoils Her Rotten;)🐾🐾🐾😘🥰
Public literally loves when my dog “is well behaved” like they haven’t seen a legitimate service dog. OH WAIT MY TOWN FAKES THEM ALL THE TIME! I’ve even ran into one lady who didn’t label her dog but was on a harness and attached a flexi straight the harness. Didn’t correct the dog when It ran up to me and other shoppers. Also when I tried asking the first question. She blatantly ignored me and rolled her eyes. I took a photo to take to the health department. I’m planning to go soon.
You might consider learning the laws better. The handler chooses what equipment, and there are no laws governing type. You also have NO right to question anyone. Only an employee can and you said you were a shopper. The behavior you describe was inappropriate, but you tell management and let them handle it. If they won’t, they defectors allow pets. The health department won’t get involved unless the store is violating code. There are much better ways to handle those situations.
@@sdigf3167 actually WE DO have a right to question. No where in the law does it say “the public can not ask”. Also where I live, the employees couldn’t give two fucking shits about it. Because their too “terrified the pet owners will sue them.” Also, I do kno my state and federal law.
@@sdigf3167 also, if it’s a fucking grocery store. The health department gets involved when someone violates a health code. WHICH A FUCKING FAKE ASS SERVICE DOG IS A MAJOR HEALTH CODE VIOLATION. I NEVER MET A PET IN A STORE THAT WASN’T IN A CART OR GETTING IN THE PRODUCTS!
@@sd.lulu.multipurpose5306 No, you don’t have the “right” and if it is seen as harassment YOU will be the one in trouble. No one has to answer your questions and not answering means absolutely nothing. If the person is disabled. The bar for harassment is lower, so you may find yourself in jail if you persist. The disabled person is still protected if their dog is not well trained. You are the worst kind of fake spotter who gives ALL handlers a bad name. You would also have to prove in court that the dog was a pet, and a picture will not do that. Just stop. You make people think all handlers are drama queens.
@@sd.lulu.multipurpose5306 And yet the store is not worried. You need to learn to control yourself.
This is quite potentially animal cruelty. It would be overwhelming for the animal and an over-stimulating environment for it as well. I’m sure that for the pig, it was scared and that’s why it couldn’t stop squealing and then defecated on the seat. And what about the possibility of painful ear pressure? Do people ever think about that?
Omg, when even the news station is wrong. ESA do have the right to fly in cabin with owner, and ESA’s HAVE to have a doctors note prescribing them to their owner as part of their treatment. They ONLY have Housing and Flying rights. ESA aren’t and will never be categorized as service animal as they do not provide a task to migrate their handlers disability such as Mobility, guiding, medical alert, medical response etc. Service animals provide a handler a counter for their disability or migrate it. This means the dog MUST be trained to do a task that lessens the severity of their handlers disability or helps them manage. A disability under ADA law states that in order to be considered disabled, your disability has to limit one or more major life activities such as eating, sleeping, walking, talking, seeing, hearing, thinking, concentrating. Etc. The dog also must be well behaved and under constant control of their animal, an establishment is legally allowed to remove the dog from the premises if the dog cannot be controlled by the handler, disrupts the establishment, or if the animal poses any kind of threat to the other patrons such as barking, snarling, lunging, pulling, jumping up on patrons, eating off the floor, sniffing or destroying merchandise, or not being House broken. Lastly according to the ADA their are two types of service animals; dogs and miniature horses; that’s it, no cats, fish, snake, or any other kind of animal besides those two.
Heidi Willard if it’s a task then it’s fine but if the dog barks uncontrollably then the business has a right to remove the animal from the premises.
Heidi Willard yeah that’s totally acceptable
Thank you omg
So if you have an allergy can you have a service dog or is that just added in the mix with a real disability?
Wasabi kitten there are hypoallergenic dogs.
k, but I mean like if you are having an allergic reaction is the dog there to help you?
Thanks! :) Hope these aren't hate comments. Oh and that's what I thought, but thanks for clarifying.
You Mr. Pickles?! That dog is Satanic. #mrpickles
It could also stop the possibility of animals transporting devises for terriorist on planes if the became stricter if one takes a moment and thought about it. I do not think it will effect service animals who are licensed before a certain month and year now but a new re certification by medical professionals should be mandated. Those ledgitimatly would continue, those not , it will stop.
In the US there is no registration nor certification for service animals, all the websites claiming to sell these are scams. For an Emotional Support Animal you need a doctors note.
Little Mix Lover .....Thank you for letting me know. I thought I did it right but you proved me wrong. I thought that since it took me 5 or 6 weeks to get it, that it was ledgit.
I am disabled and my specialist doctor recommended one. But if I can get what ever form it is from the doctor to sign, he would without issue as he signed every form I ever taken to him. Unfortunately now that these are considered fake, I feel as if I lied about my dog to the home owners association when I bought my new home. But the association seen the i.d. cards and let my dog in as service animal under and for medical reasons with having surgeries every 2 to 3 weeks on both feet. Thank you kindly for the valuble information. What is your recommendation if I may ask?
Albino Red Eared Slider, I recommend not using the ID again, as you are making it (not saying you did it on purpose, you simply didn't know and I don't blame you) harder for the next service dog team that doesn't have an ID. You could ask your doctor for a note saying you need your SD 24/7 but that doesn't have any legal standing either. Also, your service dog isn't legally required to wear a vest/be labelled as a service animal, but many handlers choose to do so anyway to help the general public to understand that they're not allowed to pet the animal.
If you have any more questions, or just want to chat, you can always DM me on Instagram, my username is: sofie3_p.sd4
Little Mix Lover ......Thank you so very much. Yes I did not know and I guess I am disgusted with paying 160 dollars for fake documents only to show without knowledge to the home owner association. I do not have a Instagram account or Facebook at the moment as my ex had caused to much drama and I am a drama free individual. I am going to create a account for my small business from home soon selling very expensive turtles ( hence my screen name here and the picture of one of my many albino Turtles as my Avatar).
Once I make a account, I would be honored to chat with you more. Your knowledge is great and thank you for that, It means a lot.
Albino Red Eared Slider, no problem! I am getting a service dog around Christmas 2018 and I really would LOVE to help you out! Though I feel like I should tell you this, I myself am not American, I am actually European, but I know each and every American laws there is about Service Dogs, I hope this makes no difference, as I love to help!
Whenever i see a real service dog i say “sup” really quietly
I say if the pet is disruptive on that flight he or she should be fined on departure from that flight and banned from flying on that airline again
In the USA. The ADA says there is no registration for ESAs or Service animals. People with ESAs only have rights under the fair housing act and I see them in public all the time. Breaking the law and putting service animal ls at risk
Putting this issue on the news does not solve the issue. There are agencies that create laws around this topic that can be handled by lawfully.
pickles...
These animals are innocent, the owners are liars.
Riley the Emotional Support dog helps with Allergies then it is a service dog
We can't get that in Norway, i think. Never seen one here
That's white folks ish.
Agreed. A mental illness.
I think every animal that is said to be a service animal need to go through some behavior training and you need to explain why you need it.
I AM TRIGGERED I can understand what your saying but people can lie why they need it
Only dogs can be service animals. Any other animal can be a therapy animal or a companion animal. Service dogs go through very intense training in order to properly help their owner and the answer to 'why you need it' is because they are disabled. Any further questioning would compare to a clerk at the grocery store asking you why you need the tampons that you are purchasing.
Yes correct. I forgot to include the horses as well. Thank you!
you do actually. businesses are allowed two questions; is that a service dog, and what tasks is it trained to do. it's illegal to pester about the specific disabilities. Only dogs and small horses can be actual service animals, ESAs are different and more varied.
training is what MAKES a service animal. the ADA bas no official registry system, just scams sites online selling you unnescescary IDs the government doesn't really require. so without training for soecific tasks to help your disability, you don't have a service animal....bottom line. Also, you are permitted to train them yourself, so you don't need to go through a training program specifically for service dogs or anything as every person's needs for that dog are different.
your comment is a little redundant, since there's already training required to be considered a SD and certain questioning businesses may do.
miniature horses, not any horse
I know a lot of service dog handlers would be against it, but I think it would only make things better if we had an official ID like a
DL. If nothing else it would combat the fake ones... and be easier for those of us with PTSD and/or anxiety etc...
@Main Street Boxer That's the whole point, they are showing fake ID's and paperwork, so if we had official IDs it would stop them. Plus we wouldn't have to show them every time, only when asked. And again, it's easier/less stressful/less panic attack for ppl like me with PTSD to just simply hand them or have my sd hand them an official ID. The person scans it hands it back to dog or me and we're on our way, No harm done. It would be by discression/on request type thing.
I wish that those people learn that not right
well everyone says regulation is bad so that would be wrong to have anything like that regulated, we shouldnt even have a dept of transportation just let the free market handle that.
I lost my eyesight for 8 months and probably will be blind . I know for a fact I would not be able to produce a piece of paper because it was hard enough to tie my shoes.
Then people treat the real service animal poorly...it is fair?
I would much rather deal with a cat or squirrel than an annoying screaming children that people bring on planes. 😂
I have a ESA dog and I did fill out online. I also had to provide a therapist prescription, name address after I had did all that I did not have to pay for the esa prescription but everything else
Wait, how does the ESA help with a peanut allergy? Does it sniff out and warn the handler if it detects nuts? If so then that's a task and could be a service animal. If not then wth and how does it help??
my dog know when it nut he tell me by barking.
@@anygonzalez8068that would be a service dog task… emotional support dogs/animals can be untrained… only some are trained
um esa are not trained for allergy alert or anything also it’s not allowed to be connected to the harness but whatever
If service dogs are medical equipment and since a fake service dog is a risk to the public, then why not classify them like risky drugs and require a prescription to bring them in public? I can't carry a handful of Vicodin around without a valid prescription, so why not for service dogs? Most people with disabilities (including me) see doctors on a regular basis anyway, so it wouldn't be that big of an inconvenience. There could be different classifications for the service dog depending on the level of access needed. You could also have a certain dog's permission to work revoked (temporarily or permanently, depending on the level of misbehavior) if they caused trouble (limiting the impact of doctors who give out prescriptions willy-nilly) while still allowing that person to have the prescription so they could try a different dog.
@Chocolate Covered Labrador Do you always make ad hominem attacks, or just when you can't think of a decent counterargument?
1. Fake service dogs do harm. They can attack people and distract or attack other service dogs or service dogs in training. There are many disabled people who have spent years training their dog or waiting for a trained dog only to have their dog ruined by an attack. Fake service dogs also make business owners and members of the public wary of legitimate service dogs, encouraging them to harass or deny access to disabled people, even if it's illegal.
2. A law that cannot be enforced might as well not exist. Unless you have effective means of enforcing the laws against fake service dogs, you might as well not have those laws at all.
3. The most reliable form of enforcement of these kinds of laws is to have a visible indicator of compliance with the law. In this case, a simple tag on the collar that could only be obtained with a prescription. Possibly different tags for different degrees of access. The tag wouldn't state the owner's disability, just that the dog was a service dog. Perhaps with a holographic state seal or something to make it hard to forge.
4. Doctors often over-prescribe, so by revoking the prescription if the dog misbehaves, the impact of people who pretend to need a service dog is limited. If they don't really need the dog, but it's well-behaved, no problem. If they just made something up so they can take their poodle to the movies and it wreaks havoc, their dog is considered malfunctioning equipment and the owner must use a different dog. This also protects doctors and insurance companies from lawsuits for not confirming each individual dog's suitability. The onus would be on the owner to ensure the dog's suitability and safety to the public.
5. The law could easily require all insurance companies to cover the cost of the prescription tag. Not the cost of the dog or its training, just the legal documentation allowing it public access. It would not be a burden on them, since such tags are cheap to make.
6. The law would also enable a ban on the sale of service dog vests/paraphernalia to anyone who did not provide proof of a service dog prescription. Unprotected terms, like assistance dog, therapy dog, emotional support dog, etc. would be unaffected.
7. Since a prescription tag is small and subtle, and most average people wouldn't notice it, it would work well for people who don't want their disability to be obvious. However, if a store owner wanted to confirm that the dog was a legit service dog, they could just ask to see the tag. No, "Is that a service dog?" and "What task does it perform?" and just taking the handler's word. Just, "Is that a service dog?" and "May I see its tag?" That's it.
8. If you are going to consider a dog to be medical equipment, you have to accept its regulation as such. There are many kinds of medical equipment that can't be obtained without a prescription. If fake service dogs are a problem, requiring real service dogs to be prescription-only is a viable solution.
@Chocolate Covered Labrador You make some interesting points, thanks for sharing them.
1. That's like saying it's not a fake police officer; it's a civilian wearing a costume that looks like a public official. A person can fake a disability all they want as long as they aren't harming others, but the dogs are the issue here (AFAIK, no other medical equipment has been known to run away from its owner and attack other medical equipment), so it's appropriate to refer to the dogs as fake service dogs. Also, I don't think it's possible to prevent fraud without affecting honest people.
It's also not possible to *ignore* fraud without affecting honest people. Personally, I'd rather have the lesser of those two evils.
2. My ideas would enable more enforcement than we currently have, so I disagree.
3. All people (including disabled people) are legally required to carry a prescription with their medicines proving the meds belong to them. There was a girl in my hometown who was arrested for having a single pill of adderall in her pocket. She had a prescription, but since she didn't have it with her, she was arrested for drug possession. I take tramadol for occasional severe pain. I often have to renew the prescription long before I actually run out of pills because I could be arrested if I carry them with an expired prescription. Do prescriptions not count as documentation?
4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doctors don't currently prescribe service animals, so I think you're trolling me here. I am speaking to my own personal experience with many different doctors as well as a variety of news articles about over-prescription of painkillers. (I assume that if doctors are willing to over-prescribe drugs that could get them arrested, they are probably just as willing to over-prescribe other drugs and equipment.) Besides, even if the first three words of that paragraph are incorrect, the rest still stands.
5. Considering different options regarding the practical implementation of a policy is not drivel. In fact, not considering them results in policies with giant loopholes, like the current laws regarding service animals.
6. Well, you can't legally purchase a fake handicap parking tag online, can you? One of the problems people have mentioned about fake service dogs is that you can easily buy a vest that makes the dog look legitimate. If service dogs are allowed access to places where pets are not normally allowed, it should not be so easy for pets to be falsely labelled as service dogs.
7. It would be easy to make the service dog tag inconspicuous, no different from a rabies tag (except maybe a holographic seal on the back to make it hard to forge, as I mentioned). The dog would look like a regular dog unless the owner wanted otherwise. The only people who would examine the tag would be those who would have confronted the disabled person anyway. Except, instead of asking "Is that a service dog?" and "What task does it perform?", they would ask to see the tag and wouldn't even need to know what task the dog performed. The law could easily include an exception so the disabled person could refuse to show the tag if the person who asked was not in a position to deny access to the disabled person. In that case, a store manager could legally inspect the tag, but a store patron couldn't. That's more privacy protection than the current law provides.
8. I was using the general "you", not you specifically. If the law considers service animals to be medical equipment, then *we* must accept their regulation as such. You are correct that the law does not permit this as it stands. However, laws can be amended. If there is enough public support, a bill could be passed creating new restrictions on the use of service animals. If there is a high-profile case where a fake service dog attacks someone, people will want new laws. Unfortunately, the laws created in situations like that are often problematic. I propose we come up with something practical, effective, and minimally disruptive before that happens. Ounce of prevention, you know?
Considering how many disabled people with service dogs are talking here in the comments about how fake service dogs negatively affect them, I don't think I'm being ablest by suggesting a solution.
ESD DON'T HAVE afferization go into airports. From what I know of. Every state have different laws for the ADA.
YES! SERVICE DOGS NEED TO BE ISSUED A PICTURE ID FROM THE GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE OURS! THIS WILL WORK!
Emotional support animal for anxiety and peanut allergy? Really? I have panic disorder and a fear of flying. Can I get a dog that is "registered" as an emotional support animal too?
No
>tries to people its bad to have a fake service animal
>At beginning of video she gives a step by step explanation of how easy it is to get a fake service animal.
Why would you teach or explain how easy it is to do something bad. It's like saying meth is bad and that people shouldn't do it, yet giving them a guide on how to make it.
Omfg when she yeeted the dog back
I have a esa and I actually need him to function in society. It's awful that people do this.
Katelyn Pendergraff Yes, he comes with me everywhere but I make sure to allows have his papers with me and he is trained to behave in public so most places allow him.
Katelyn Pendergraff actually it is not illegal to have them in public it is up to the property owner and the mentioned papers is the esa letter that makes him a emotional assistance dog.
Katelyn Pendergraff the owners of the businesses let me have my dog there. Also I am fully aware of the false sites, I do not need to prove to you that I have a real esa. And for your information he is being trained to be a psychiatric service dog.
Katelyn Pendergraff If it becomes a service dog guess what? There are a bunch of ways it can help, maybe he/she will train their dog to put a paw or do something to show their anxiety is coming, maybe they can train it to help them with anxiety such as blocking people from trying to start conversations or something.
Katelyn Pendergraff You make a drama in this country. Here in Austria you can take your pets nearly everywhere in public, also in stores (except for food stores) except for museums, cinema etc.
Everybody is fine with it and we don't make any drama whenever a goddamn dog is sitting in a restaurant or in the subway.
I always go shopping with my normal dogs and nobody ever got offended by it.
And again, it's completely legal here.
Where I live if you have a service dog or even an emotional support animal you have to go to the health department and the health department will say yes you really need this animal or no you don't need this animal and through the health department they will say that this animal has been trained to be a service dog and it has the right requirements to go out in public it has been trained everything like that and they actually make sure you really truly need this animal versus going online to pay like $60 to register a fake animal
Then you don't live in the US, because that would be an illegal requirement.
My uncle had because it was thru the VA and I live in NC
@@brooketayor8364 That's just so the VA will pay for the dog. It's doesn't apply to any one else.
There is no such thing as a service pet and no such thing as registration or certification.