big Kodak ISO 100 expired slide film here. i love the colours and look to it when shot at box speed and cross processed. not so much if developed in E-6 as the color shifts are too off. and no need to over or underexpose it. lots of photographers dismiss this whole thing of x-pro as hipster bs but i tell you, it's a fantastic memory maker for a sunny summer holiday
An important thing to note with Agfa Vista is that the name was used for three completely different lines of film over the years. The original Agfa Vista (in 100, 200, 400, and 800 ISO varieties) was made by, well, Agfa. You can distinguish it by the original rhombus Agfa logo and "made in Germany" description. Once Agfa stopped making film another company bought the naming rights and sold repackaged film made by others, all named "AgfaPhoto". At first there was AgfaPhoto Vista (200, 400, and 800) - made by Ferrania and it's labeled as "made in EU". It was either based on, or outright repackaged, their Solaris range. Once Ferrania closed down as well there was the final Vista, the one most people nowadays are familiar with - AgfaPhoto Vista Plus (200 and 400). That one was made by Fujifilm which is no secret, but the actual stock is disputed. Some sources say it's just repackaged Fujicolor 200 and Superia 400, others swear that it's different. But anyway, now that it's only available second hand in various stages of expiration you should know which one you're getting - it's not hard to tell them apart, you just have to pay attention to the exact branding and place of origin and it's all clear. Hope this long post helps someone :)
After watching this makes me rethink my plans of going back into a time machine, because if that opportunity presented itself, it would be to collect all these film stocks in the hopes that Kodak, Fuji and other companies continue to produce it.
This episode made me want to start watching Twin Peaks again from the beginning (which I'm doing right now). But seriously though, great video as always, T.
I have shot Kodachrome and Panatomic X. My go to B&W film was Verichrome Pan at 125. I used Tri X if I needed a faster speed, although 400 is not that impressive these days. My days were back in the early ‘70’s.
@@TatianaHopper It is truly transcendent. Also, I got so carried away with the wave of audio nostalgia that I forgot to comment on how brilliant your post is. Your choices on film is so out of the ordinary in a way that I have come to appreciate that is customary for your channel. Really nicely done, I truly look forward to your posts.
I certainly lament the passing of some of these... Kodachrome for sure. I shot almost exclusively Kodachrome when I shot color for many years K64 the most... K25 when I knew I was shooting in sunlight and... I was one of the VERY FEW people that LOVED PKL (K200) which was a magical film for me, most people when they shot "high speed" color went with E6 because very quickly the E6 200 and even 400 films showed "less grain" in 35, had quick turn-around at labs, and more than anything else could be pushed a stop and still look okay. K200 was 200 and that's it, very very grainy on 35mm but had that Kodachrome look (warm colors were warm but other colors seemed cool/desaturated which made Kodachrome reds pop like nothing else (even if technically they might be less saturated than some E6 films) they LOOKED so great. Also Kodachrome as you were trying to describe were pretty much black and white film before you processed it, no dyes at all (let alone couplers) meaning it tended to be fairly indestructible in terms of keeping and storage without babying it so a LOT of consistency. I LOVED K200's look. If you want to see it go look for grainy looking Kodachrome pictures in 80's in NatGeo. Panatomic-X was fantastic absolutely in all formats. Interestingly I do believe somehow it was used as the negative base in Polaroid Type 55 with whatever Poloaroid magic one-shot developer was built in to the packs and was effectively much higher speed with higher contrast in that film. Magical if you've never shot Type 55. I loved that shit on 8x10 cameras but even back when it was made it was a very pricey thing in 8x10.
I've been shooting film since the early 1970s and have been lucky enough to have used K25, K64, K200 extensively whilst it was regular stock. My favourite was K64 - mainly for the colours (not that true-to-life but very pleasing to my eye). I've also used Pan-X but never really got on with it. - preferring FP4 (but I did get to shoot some expired FP3). No way would (or could) I spend £100 on a roll of expired film - but it's good to see the resurgence in film usage and even the appearance of new film stocks.
Fantastic experiences Paul and I guess pan x escaped us all and yes I’m with you on spending 100£ on a roll of expired film I wouldn’t do it either. Cheers for watching :)
Panatomic-X was my favorite B&W film. And its end of the line the reason I don't like Tmax... a good and more "capable" film than Panatomic-X, but a sterile one, with no charm, personality. When I discovered it was about to end, I bought what I could find (not that many, unfortunately) and threw it into the freezer. Three weeks ago I shot one on a portrait session with my daughter, just to check it, Shot on ASA 32, with no exposure compensation and developed on Dektol 1:1 for 6 minutes, it delivered nice tones, not that much contrast, and the kind of grain I love, discreet but present if you look for it. I didn't had time to print it yet, but I believe it'll do fine too. Thanks for this video, it brought me nice memories. Best!
Thank you José. To be honest I do feel you I think I shot a roll of Tmax before but I don’t think it was really for me. I was pretty fortunate after this video someone gifted me with a roll of Panatomic X. So now I’m going to find a good occasion and put it to a good use.
@@TatianaHopper I donlt know if you ever shot Tmax, but hope you enjoy your roll of Panatomic-X! I'd look for a bright day, contrasty scenes. Let us know the results. Tmax is very good, I have personal reserves for the reason I mentioned, but it's nothing serious :) The 3200 version seems to be very interesting. Best!
Brilliant close out to the year, T. And as someone with Twin Peaks coursing through his veins, I greatly appreciate the vibe of this video. Especially while swooning over dead film stock. 100% appropriate. I wish I could find some well stored Kodachrome. Seems less and less likely to be out there with each passing year. But I really want to try the Vista now. I love what I saw here. Thanks for this one! (Side note: check out the film 'Kodachrome'. Not great, but I enjoyed it and it's worth a viewing from any photographer.)
Hey there, thank you I also thought it was appropriate for some reason while editing I kept thinking of the recurrent motif of “25 years later” which is on quite a lot on twin peaks so I thought it would be cool to play about with it. I’ve shot Kodachrome and I enjoyed some of my results. Cheers for watching & for always showing support ;)
@@benbowland Yeah, I've tried that too. Works great, but the 400 version had a really unique look. Weirdly, it looks fairly different to the 100F. Ektachrome pushed to 400 with a warming filter looks closer to Provia 400, but I haven't been able to find a really good replacement yet. Still have a few rolls in the fridge.
Love your videos so much! Have been binging them and so well put together and informative! Keep it up, you have taught me a lot and inspire my film photography journey! Thank you T!!🙏🏼
I have been bingeing all your videos, super high quality work! I swore to myself I would never shoot expired film again because of the inconsistencies that arise but this video inspired me to try a roll and be ok with whatever happens haha. I have a lot of expired film but no Pan -X, however I do have Plus-X Pan which you are more than welcome to have.
I love Adox Color Implosion so much. I bought three rolls in 2017 for like $30, and shot my favorite series of photos I've ever shot on it. I'm down to my last roll and I'm too afraid to shoot with it cause I know I'll never have it again
Now that’s a treasure, but if I were you I would enjoy it try and capture stuff you love with it so you can look back and know that you’re last roll was spent on someone(s) or something(s) meaningful to you!
Nice video :) Over the years I was fortunate enough to have been able to use both 25 & 64 ASA Kodachrome 35mm films; they produced some fabulous colours and the images really came to life when put into a slide projector and shown on a proper projector screen in a darkened room :) Unfortunately Kodak Panatomic X was discontinued long before I took up photography :(
Verichrome Pan was good - worked well with tanning and staining developers. Thick base and lots of silver. I did shoot some Panatomic X in the 90s having got a few outdated rolls from a neighbour how had had them in the dee freeze for some yrs. Discontinued in the 80s. Pan X plus was nice, I liked it in PMK and some of Barry Thornton's catechol based developers. What about that old Kodak IR film High Speed IR - notionally a 400. Proper IR effects, not like the Ilford one. That was much mourned. Ones I particularly miss are Neopan 400, 1600 and SS. The first 2 went well in Barry Thornton's DiXactol and some other one I cannot remember (catechol based - you can get remakes of them from the Photographer's Formulary in Montana). For those missing retro looking Kodak B&W films, I wonder if it might be worth you trying Kodak Double X. It's a movie film (Schindler's List etc) and quite contrasty - you need to control your lighting ratios in with this one (or accept you are going to say goodbye to some of the exposure range). There a re a number of places re-spooling it into 135 cassettes. Nik & Trick in the UK do it. Has anyone done a comparison of Adox Color Implosion and Lomography Metropolis (which looks a bit like bleach bypass)?
My 2 or 3 very first rolls that I shoot were some expired Agfa Vista 200 that my father had around. The grain was as big as rice grains. I almost give analogue photography up, the day I got the negatives😂
Ahahah that’s funny I’ve had heard the same from so many people, but I’m guessing if you found my channel then it’s because you haven’t given up on it and I’m really glad you didn’t :)
Some of my favorite shots are from 12 year expired Kodak gold 200 that was in a case in a gas station in the boonies. I just shot a roll of Panchromatic Kodak b&w from 2001 that gave every shot a slight yellow tinge which was super interesting
I had coffee (of course) and eggs at the RR, and also visited the sawmill a couple of years ago just outside of Seattle. I have a roll of Panatomic X I came across years ago that I'm finally shooting very soon. :)
Although he primarily used Tri-X, motorsports photographer Bernard Cahier produced many beautiful images using Kodachrome, including some when it was ASA 10! I can't imagine shooting race cars with anything slower than 200. The skill required to use such a slow film was immense!
Kodachrome, Techni-, Eastman- and Agfacolor Neu were incredible in terms of colors, depth and sharpness. Nothing we have today comes close to that. I don't know who owns the rights for Agfacolor but whoever it is should bring it back, because the development is much easier than Kodachrome. The color-forming dye couplers are part of the film.
@@TatianaHopper Cool! :) Well good amateur photography with Agfacolor is hard to find. The stock is especially known for a painterly quality for movies. There is a book about it "UFA in Farbe 1936 1945" . It's in german unfortunately, like most of the Agfacolor stuff. The best known moving picture I know shot in Agfacolor was "Große Freiheit Nr. 7. The remastered bluray shows the most beautiful colors. There was a commercial shot in Agfacolor "Ariane und die Movikon" - it's on UA-cam if you wanna take a look. I hope I could help with your research :)
@@seventeendegree Very true about Agfachrome. It was very distinct from Kodak and had a pastel, or as you say "painterly" quality to it. I only shot a couple of rolls with it when I was in Europe back in the early seventies. Wish I had shot more of it but at that time I had access to free Kodachrome and Ektachrome, courtesy of the U.S. Navy. :)
Most interesting, thanks T. I am fortunate, or old (actually both), to have a library of several hundred Kodachrome slides from the early to mid 70's. I prize them more each year.
Loved the vlog - it was well timed for me. Over the past week I’d just found some 120 rolls of Kodak Technical Pan in my darkroom that expired in 1991 as well as some rolls of Kodak Panther 100X (slide film) that was dated until 1996!!!
Ah, this rekindles ancient brain cells in my long term b/w memory. Shot many a roll of Panatomic-X back in the day. To say it was fine-grained is an understatement. You couldn't find the grain to focus on when you had it in the enlarger. As for Kodachrome, you have to bow your head...nothing comes close; it was the gold standard. I mean how many film stocks have had a hit song written about them? 😃 (Kodachrome, Paul Simon 1973)...Good vid....Happy New Year!
Thank you for watching Joseph and indeed we have to bow our heads to Kodachrome and all these other stocks, so glad they existed at some point in time. Cheers and a happy new year to you as well :)
Agfa!!! Agfa agfa agfa :) I still have 4 rolls of Agfacolor 200 and about 5 of AgfaVista 100 in my fridge. Original Agfa film stocks made in Germany :) Their my favorite films and I'll be super upset once I've used it all. Colors still amazing, I am constantly on the lookout for original agfa stock to add to my collection now.
I also have a good amount on Konica Centuria 100, I've had really good results with it. Everyone I have seen use it on youtube neglect to correct the colors properly (the normal base color correction isn't enough), and just think its how the film should look. Bad expired film etc etc etc But once the white balance is corrected the colors are beautiful and accurate.
I really enjoyed this one :) when I started with photography I shot a lot of Agfa Vista but I learned a lot of new facts about it because of your video. Thanks a lot!
Ps. you missed a few REALLY big deals here, I won't even include all the recent Fuji discontinuations which matter a lot to people TODAY rather than 2+ decades ago. 1. Plus-X... you won't hear a lot about it but this film was pretty much my standard go-to B+W film since the 70's when I started taking photography seriously. It was absolutely perfect for my people oriented photography and it had a lot of characteristics that I've never found a decent substitute for. FP4+ was and is a completely different beast with a very different tonal response curve no matter how you develop it. 2. TXP... (Tri-X Professional 320), never in 35mm but all other sizes like all sheet sizes, 120... another unique film that had a very odd (relative to most film available since the 70's) in it's tonal response curve. Was NOT a good film for casual shooters at all but very difficult to reproduce tonal curve for those that had explored it's exposure and development characteristics fully. 3. Verichrome Pan = what I consider the last of the really old-school black and white films from a tonal response perspective (TXP was also old-school but different) 4. Agfa APX25 and APX100 both of these films shared a family resemblance but when developed in Rodinal (or similar developer) had a very distinctive carved out of metal look.
About not having DX coding in point and shoot camera defaulting to 100 in non DX coded film cassette .. you can in fact adjust the ISO/ASA by setting your exposure compensation .. +1 in a 100 ASA is 200 and +2 is 400 and +3 is 800 ASA equivalent .. ...
Hey Jan that is partially true but I gave the example of my yashica for a reason it’s because some cameras don’t allow you to set exposure compensation like the yashica t4 (opposed to other point & shoots like the contax t2 that allow it). Of course you can do it in processing by pushing the film and that’s also a good option in this case of no dx coding case. Cheers for watching!
@@TatianaHopper I have a Contax R VS it always exposure compensation ...that's the problem with theses Dcx coded cameras..there are a lot of great films l orJCH streetpan are not DX coded
I was gifted some Kodalith in a bulk loader. Estimating its roughly 30 years old, minimum. Our first exposure & development produced images, but quite underexposed. Another couple of rolls & tinkering with developing & we'll learn more.
One film I personally had great experience with, and maybe someone already mentioned it, is ferrania solaris (the very old slides by the same brand are even cooler, but possibly too old). Got lucky and got 30 rolls of expired uncooled rolls for 20 and only had 3 or so fail completely. The colorshift makes everything look like super hot summer colors.
Recently shot with Fuji Super HQ 100 (shot at 25 ISO) and the colors came out beautifully. The film did have some random spotty artifacts when I got it back from the lab... definitely the film :(
Agfa Ultra! Those Aquamarine skies... Martin Parr's film. I have some Agfa 25 somewhere waiting for a bright day. Quite similar to tech pan - a bit less contrasty.
My information could be wrong so please correct me if need be, but from what I could find, Rollei RPX 25 is the old Agfa APX (discontinued in 2006) which is a finer grain version of Kodak Panatomic-X. APX - Advanced Panatomic-X. Similar to Rollei ATP which is Advanced Technical Pan. I will try to track back down my sources.
I've got one roll of Adox Color Implosion in the fridge! and I spent something about 10 dollars at that moment. The curious fact that I could never find information is that once I removed the paper that covers the chassis and it was one from Cinestill 50D. So weird!
Why? Clearly you never shot Kodachrome. By current standards it was slow (ISO 25 or 64; the 200 film never performed that well and was killed off quickly). It was very high contrast, making exposure critical, well beyond the sloppy standards of what passes today. It had very high saturation, a "good", but it's color fidelity was inferior to later and current Ektachrome. In the US, Kodachrome was mostly processed for the masses in one of several labs operated by Kodak; the dirt and scratches they would inflict would not pass today. You're imagining a film which has never existed. (Yes, I shot Kodachorme 10, 25 and 64 as they came along. K-25 was the good one. I switched to Ektachrome 64 when the improved E-4 process and film came out around 1962, and I never went back.)
I have some ektachrome 64 that expired around 30 years ago. I usually cross develop them to get interesting results. Normal development just renders them flat and rather boring.
I've been looking at eBay for some expired stuff. I also ordered some Portra 400 for my Brownie Hawkeye box camera. It hasn't been shot since my dad used it in the late 70s. Maybe I can find some expired 160? My old man shot all of his 70s stuff on my Miranda as slides on Kodachrome.
Excuse me, why did i not know this channel existed until today?!? This is brilliant!
coming in hot with those lynch vibes. Oh man.
Hot takes in 2020.
Yeah wasn’t it the main theme of Twin Peaks ?
@@MichaelZieschang it was!
@@TatianaHopper Wish you a happy New Year 🎆 of course and I hope to not spam you by tagging you in some of my IG-fotos 😬
@@MichaelZieschang ua-cam.com/video/8nHV2mOCIRA/v-deo.html that good good
big Kodak ISO 100 expired slide film here. i love the colours and look to it when shot at box speed and cross processed. not so much if developed in E-6 as the color shifts are too off. and no need to over or underexpose it. lots of photographers dismiss this whole thing of x-pro as hipster bs but i tell you, it's a fantastic memory maker for a sunny summer holiday
Cheers! Will definitely try that next time!
An important thing to note with Agfa Vista is that the name was used for three completely different lines of film over the years. The original Agfa Vista (in 100, 200, 400, and 800 ISO varieties) was made by, well, Agfa. You can distinguish it by the original rhombus Agfa logo and "made in Germany" description. Once Agfa stopped making film another company bought the naming rights and sold repackaged film made by others, all named "AgfaPhoto". At first there was AgfaPhoto Vista (200, 400, and 800) - made by Ferrania and it's labeled as "made in EU". It was either based on, or outright repackaged, their Solaris range. Once Ferrania closed down as well there was the final Vista, the one most people nowadays are familiar with - AgfaPhoto Vista Plus (200 and 400). That one was made by Fujifilm which is no secret, but the actual stock is disputed. Some sources say it's just repackaged Fujicolor 200 and Superia 400, others swear that it's different. But anyway, now that it's only available second hand in various stages of expiration you should know which one you're getting - it's not hard to tell them apart, you just have to pay attention to the exact branding and place of origin and it's all clear. Hope this long post helps someone :)
Thank you!
Holy shit, the Kodachrome shot of the Golden Gate Bridge was singing. Love the video!
After watching this makes me rethink my plans of going back into a time machine, because if that opportunity presented itself, it would be to collect all these film stocks in the hopes that Kodak, Fuji and other companies continue to produce it.
This episode made me want to start watching Twin Peaks again from the beginning (which I'm doing right now). But seriously though, great video as always, T.
Yes! Twin peaks 🤍 Thank you so much Ted I appreciate the support as always :)
I have shot Kodachrome and Panatomic X. My go to B&W film was Verichrome Pan at 125. I used Tri X if I needed a faster speed, although 400 is not that impressive these days. My days were back in the early ‘70’s.
You had me from the jump with that extended Angelo Badalamenti piece.
It’s one of my favourites!
@@TatianaHopper It is truly transcendent. Also, I got so carried away with the wave of audio nostalgia that I forgot to comment on how brilliant your post is. Your choices on film is so out of the ordinary in a way that I have come to appreciate that is customary for your channel. Really nicely done, I truly look forward to your posts.
I certainly lament the passing of some of these...
Kodachrome for sure. I shot almost exclusively Kodachrome when I shot color for many years K64 the most... K25 when I knew I was shooting in sunlight and... I was one of the VERY FEW people that LOVED PKL (K200) which was a magical film for me, most people when they shot "high speed" color went with E6 because very quickly the E6 200 and even 400 films showed "less grain" in 35, had quick turn-around at labs, and more than anything else could be pushed a stop and still look okay. K200 was 200 and that's it, very very grainy on 35mm but had that Kodachrome look (warm colors were warm but other colors seemed cool/desaturated which made Kodachrome reds pop like nothing else (even if technically they might be less saturated than some E6 films) they LOOKED so great. Also Kodachrome as you were trying to describe were pretty much black and white film before you processed it, no dyes at all (let alone couplers) meaning it tended to be fairly indestructible in terms of keeping and storage without babying it so a LOT of consistency. I LOVED K200's look. If you want to see it go look for grainy looking Kodachrome pictures in 80's in NatGeo.
Panatomic-X was fantastic absolutely in all formats. Interestingly I do believe somehow it was used as the negative base in Polaroid Type 55 with whatever Poloaroid magic one-shot developer was built in to the packs and was effectively much higher speed with higher contrast in that film. Magical if you've never shot Type 55. I loved that shit on 8x10 cameras but even back when it was made it was a very pricey thing in 8x10.
these are all single moments in time. this is why I love film photography.
Love this list. Aerochrome is another discontinued film stock that I want to try, but I really can't justify spending $100+ for an expired roll
Yes, perhaps in a second episode we can include aerochrome :)
Starting the new year right with these lynch vibes, you love to see it.
Yes! New year new vibes :)
I've been shooting film since the early 1970s and have been lucky enough to have used K25, K64, K200 extensively whilst it was regular stock. My favourite was K64 - mainly for the colours (not that true-to-life but very pleasing to my eye). I've also used Pan-X but never really got on with it. - preferring FP4 (but I did get to shoot some expired FP3). No way would (or could) I spend £100 on a roll of expired film - but it's good to see the resurgence in film usage and even the appearance of new film stocks.
Fantastic experiences Paul and I guess pan x escaped us all and yes I’m with you on spending 100£ on a roll of expired film I wouldn’t do it either. Cheers for watching :)
Thanks. I just looked at D.A. Pennebaker's experimental short film Daybreak Express (1953) shot on 16mm Kodachrome. Those yellows!
Fantastic exercise I’ll do the same, thank you for the reminder ;) and cheers for watching!
Panatomic-X was my favorite B&W film. And its end of the line the reason I don't like Tmax... a good and more "capable" film than Panatomic-X, but a sterile one, with no charm, personality. When I discovered it was about to end, I bought what I could find (not that many, unfortunately) and threw it into the freezer. Three weeks ago I shot one on a portrait session with my daughter, just to check it, Shot on ASA 32, with no exposure compensation and developed on Dektol 1:1 for 6 minutes, it delivered nice tones, not that much contrast, and the kind of grain I love, discreet but present if you look for it. I didn't had time to print it yet, but I believe it'll do fine too.
Thanks for this video, it brought me nice memories. Best!
Thank you José. To be honest I do feel you I think I shot a roll of Tmax before but I don’t think it was really for me. I was pretty fortunate after this video someone gifted me with a roll of Panatomic X. So now I’m going to find a good occasion and put it to a good use.
@@TatianaHopper I donlt know if you ever shot Tmax, but hope you enjoy your roll of Panatomic-X! I'd look for a bright day, contrasty scenes. Let us know the results.
Tmax is very good, I have personal reserves for the reason I mentioned, but it's nothing serious :) The 3200 version seems to be very interesting. Best!
Brilliant close out to the year, T. And as someone with Twin Peaks coursing through his veins, I greatly appreciate the vibe of this video. Especially while swooning over dead film stock. 100% appropriate. I wish I could find some well stored Kodachrome. Seems less and less likely to be out there with each passing year. But I really want to try the Vista now. I love what I saw here. Thanks for this one! (Side note: check out the film 'Kodachrome'. Not great, but I enjoyed it and it's worth a viewing from any photographer.)
Hey there, thank you I also thought it was appropriate for some reason while editing I kept thinking of the recurrent motif of “25 years later” which is on quite a lot on twin peaks so I thought it would be cool to play about with it. I’ve shot Kodachrome and I enjoyed some of my results. Cheers for watching & for always showing support ;)
8 years on, I'm still bummed out about Fuji Provia 400X being discontinued :-(
Tell me about it. I’m still bummed for coming late to the party (golden years of film photography)
Fuji PRO 400 H now discontinued. However Fuji says it’s digital cameras make the same pictures as it’s discontinued films.
You can push Provia 100F to 400, but I wish I had been able to shoot the 400 ISO version.
@@benbowland Yeah, I've tried that too. Works great, but the 400 version had a really unique look. Weirdly, it looks fairly different to the 100F. Ektachrome pushed to 400 with a warming filter looks closer to Provia 400, but I haven't been able to find a really good replacement yet. Still have a few rolls in the fridge.
Love your videos so much! Have been binging them and so well put together and informative! Keep it up, you have taught me a lot and inspire my film photography journey! Thank you T!!🙏🏼
Thank you so much Drew, appreciate you!
I have been bingeing all your videos, super high quality work! I swore to myself I would never shoot expired film again because of the inconsistencies that arise but this video inspired me to try a roll and be ok with whatever happens haha. I have a lot of expired film but no Pan -X, however I do have Plus-X Pan which you are more than welcome to have.
Do it Joel, as you said, its about being okay with whatever happens, not setting higher expectations and just enjoy the accidents and have fun.
I love Adox Color Implosion so much. I bought three rolls in 2017 for like $30, and shot my favorite series of photos I've ever shot on it. I'm down to my last roll and I'm too afraid to shoot with it cause I know I'll never have it again
Now that’s a treasure, but if I were you I would enjoy it try and capture stuff you love with it so you can look back and know that you’re last roll was spent on someone(s) or something(s) meaningful to you!
Nice video :)
Over the years I was fortunate enough to have been able to use both 25 & 64 ASA Kodachrome 35mm films; they produced some fabulous colours and the images really came to life when put into a slide projector and shown on a proper projector screen in a darkened room :)
Unfortunately Kodak Panatomic X was discontinued long before I took up photography :(
That’s fantastic Kevin. A little but envying you right now ahaha (joking). Thank you for watching :)
So many fun films. Also, love that clip from Snoqualmie Falls at the start.
Verichrome Pan was good - worked well with tanning and staining developers. Thick base and lots of silver. I did shoot some Panatomic X in the 90s having got a few outdated rolls from a neighbour how had had them in the dee freeze for some yrs. Discontinued in the 80s. Pan X plus was nice, I liked it in PMK and some of Barry Thornton's catechol based developers. What about that old Kodak IR film High Speed IR - notionally a 400. Proper IR effects, not like the Ilford one. That was much mourned. Ones I particularly miss are Neopan 400, 1600 and SS. The first 2 went well in Barry Thornton's DiXactol and some other one I cannot remember (catechol based - you can get remakes of them from the Photographer's Formulary in Montana).
For those missing retro looking Kodak B&W films, I wonder if it might be worth you trying Kodak Double X. It's a movie film (Schindler's List etc) and quite contrasty - you need to control your lighting ratios in with this one (or accept you are going to say goodbye to some of the exposure range). There a re a number of places re-spooling it into 135 cassettes. Nik & Trick in the UK do it.
Has anyone done a comparison of Adox Color Implosion and Lomography Metropolis (which looks a bit like bleach bypass)?
My 2 or 3 very first rolls that I shoot were some expired Agfa Vista 200 that my father had around. The grain was as big as rice grains. I almost give analogue photography up, the day I got the negatives😂
Ahahah that’s funny I’ve had heard the same from so many people, but I’m guessing if you found my channel then it’s because you haven’t given up on it and I’m really glad you didn’t :)
@@TatianaHopper Yes hahaha, grainy but special ;)
Some of my favorite shots are from 12 year expired Kodak gold 200 that was in a case in a gas station in the boonies. I just shot a roll of Panchromatic Kodak b&w from 2001 that gave every shot a slight yellow tinge which was super interesting
Wow I had no idea that Vista was sold at poundland... what a cool time that must have been to get a great stock so cheap
I had coffee (of course) and eggs at the RR, and also visited the sawmill a couple of years ago just outside of Seattle. I have a roll of Panatomic X I came across years ago that I'm finally shooting very soon. :)
That’s great Jamie, would love to visit it one day! Go shoot it ;)
@@TatianaHopper Yes! I would have spent a lot more time there if I wasn't just in town to shoot a wedding. ha. The whole area is really neat.
Although he primarily used Tri-X, motorsports photographer Bernard Cahier produced many beautiful images using Kodachrome, including some when it was ASA 10! I can't imagine shooting race cars with anything slower than 200. The skill required to use such a slow film was immense!
Kodachrome, Techni-, Eastman- and Agfacolor Neu were incredible in terms of colors, depth and sharpness. Nothing we have today comes close to that. I don't know who owns the rights for Agfacolor but whoever it is should bring it back, because the development is much easier than Kodachrome. The color-forming dye couplers are part of the film.
Agfacolor was already on my list so I think for a next video maybe I should include it :)
@@TatianaHopper Cool! :) Well good amateur photography with Agfacolor is hard to find. The stock is especially known for a painterly quality for movies. There is a book about it "UFA in Farbe 1936 1945" . It's in german unfortunately, like most of the Agfacolor stuff. The best known moving picture I know shot in Agfacolor was "Große Freiheit Nr. 7. The remastered bluray shows the most beautiful colors. There was a commercial shot in Agfacolor "Ariane und die Movikon" - it's on UA-cam if you wanna take a look. I hope I could help with your research :)
@@seventeendegree Very true about Agfachrome. It was very distinct from Kodak and had a pastel, or as you say "painterly" quality to it. I only shot a couple of rolls with it when I was in Europe back in the early seventies. Wish I had shot more of it but at that time I had access to free Kodachrome and Ektachrome, courtesy of the U.S. Navy. :)
@@Joseph_Greco Impressive story! :) I wish they would bring it back. Film photography will never die :)
I have a few rolls of agfachrome but they expired in the 1980
Most interesting, thanks T. I am fortunate, or old (actually both), to have a library of several hundred Kodachrome slides from the early to mid 70's. I prize them more each year.
Priceless that library of yours ;)
Loved the vlog - it was well timed for me. Over the past week I’d just found some 120 rolls of Kodak Technical Pan in my darkroom that expired in 1991 as well as some rolls of Kodak Panther 100X (slide film) that was dated until 1996!!!
Now that’s a find, go for it and shoot some film!
Ah, this rekindles ancient brain cells in my long term b/w memory. Shot many a roll of Panatomic-X back in the day. To say it was fine-grained is an understatement. You couldn't find the grain to focus on when you had it in the enlarger. As for Kodachrome, you have to bow your head...nothing comes close; it was the gold standard. I mean how many film stocks have had a hit song written about them? 😃 (Kodachrome, Paul Simon 1973)...Good vid....Happy New Year!
Thank you for watching Joseph and indeed we have to bow our heads to Kodachrome and all these other stocks, so glad they existed at some point in time. Cheers and a happy new year to you as well :)
Agfa!!! Agfa agfa agfa :) I still have 4 rolls of Agfacolor 200 and about 5 of AgfaVista 100 in my fridge. Original Agfa film stocks made in Germany :) Their my favorite films and I'll be super upset once I've used it all. Colors still amazing, I am constantly on the lookout for original agfa stock to add to my collection now.
I also have a good amount on Konica Centuria 100, I've had really good results with it. Everyone I have seen use it on youtube neglect to correct the colors properly (the normal base color correction isn't enough), and just think its how the film should look. Bad expired film etc etc etc But once the white balance is corrected the colors are beautiful and accurate.
I really enjoyed this one :) when I started with photography I shot a lot of Agfa Vista but I learned a lot of new facts about it because of your video. Thanks a lot!
You’re welcome & thank your for watching Seb!
Ps. you missed a few REALLY big deals here, I won't even include all the recent Fuji discontinuations which matter a lot to people TODAY rather than 2+ decades ago.
1. Plus-X... you won't hear a lot about it but this film was pretty much my standard go-to B+W film since the 70's when I started taking photography seriously. It was absolutely perfect for my people oriented photography and it had a lot of characteristics that I've never found a decent substitute for. FP4+ was and is a completely different beast with a very different tonal response curve no matter how you develop it.
2. TXP... (Tri-X Professional 320), never in 35mm but all other sizes like all sheet sizes, 120... another unique film that had a very odd (relative to most film available since the 70's) in it's tonal response curve. Was NOT a good film for casual shooters at all but very difficult to reproduce tonal curve for those that had explored it's exposure and development characteristics fully.
3. Verichrome Pan = what I consider the last of the really old-school black and white films from a tonal response perspective (TXP was also old-school but different)
4. Agfa APX25 and APX100 both of these films shared a family resemblance but when developed in Rodinal (or similar developer) had a very distinctive carved out of metal look.
About not having DX coding in point and shoot camera defaulting to 100 in non DX coded film cassette .. you can in fact adjust the ISO/ASA by setting your exposure compensation .. +1 in a 100 ASA is 200 and +2 is 400 and +3 is 800 ASA equivalent .. ...
Hey Jan that is partially true but I gave the example of my yashica for a reason it’s because some cameras don’t allow you to set exposure compensation like the yashica t4 (opposed to other point & shoots like the contax t2 that allow it). Of course you can do it in processing by pushing the film and that’s also a good option in this case of no dx coding case. Cheers for watching!
@@TatianaHopper I have a Contax R VS it always exposure compensation ...that's the problem with theses Dcx coded cameras..there are a lot of great films l orJCH streetpan are not DX coded
Thanks, I have a roll or two of PanX that I shot my girlfriend on back in the seventies. Wasn't aware it was discontinued.
I was gifted some Kodalith in a bulk loader. Estimating its roughly 30 years old, minimum. Our first exposure & development produced images, but quite underexposed. Another couple of rolls & tinkering with developing & we'll learn more.
Now that’s some heat there, keep shooting Matt and cheers for watching!
Happy new year and thank you for your inspiring videos ...
Thank you Reinhold. A happy new year to too and all the best!
a version of panatomic x was shot on the moon! my desire to shoot this film is so much higher! (Grainydays has a video on that)
One film I personally had great experience with, and maybe someone already mentioned it, is ferrania solaris (the very old slides by the same brand are even cooler, but possibly too old). Got lucky and got 30 rolls of expired uncooled rolls for 20 and only had 3 or so fail completely. The colorshift makes everything look like super hot summer colors.
I’ve heard of that film and from what I saw it’s actually really good. Excited to acquire some :)
Recently shot with Fuji Super HQ 100 (shot at 25 ISO) and the colors came out beautifully. The film did have some random spotty artifacts when I got it back from the lab... definitely the film :(
It happens sometimes but don’t let that discourage you chief!
Outside world = you've been inside watching T. Hopper's videos all day ?
Me = Yep .
Thank you Adrián don’t let the outside world disturb you on your marathon ahah
Good timing, Kodak will be releasing two new film stocks in 2021 :)
Yes I read that. Hurray 2021!
@@TatianaHopper Probably Plus X and Kodak Gold 200 in 120 format.
I got a package of fuji sensia 100 (expired 2002) and got it developed in c41 chemicals and so far results are very good. I still have 3 rolls left.
What a nice intro!
You forgot Kodak Technical Pan and Agfa Ultra. Two of the most amazing films ever.
Agfa Ultra! Those Aquamarine skies... Martin Parr's film. I have some Agfa 25 somewhere waiting for a bright day. Quite similar to tech pan - a bit less contrasty.
My information could be wrong so please correct me if need be, but from what I could find, Rollei RPX 25 is the old Agfa APX (discontinued in 2006) which is a finer grain version of Kodak Panatomic-X. APX - Advanced Panatomic-X. Similar to Rollei ATP which is Advanced Technical Pan. I will try to track back down my sources.
nice Twin Peaks music!
I would love to try Fuji Eterna
Happy New Year! Be careful, the PanXs are not what they seem.
Love the pun Edward, cheers ;) and a happy new year to you too!
Agfa Vista 400 was my fave everyday film in 2017. Unlike V200, it really emphasized refs and oranges. Still have most of a brick left. :-)
I've got one roll of Adox Color Implosion in the fridge! and I spent something about 10 dollars at that moment. The curious fact that I could never find information is that once I removed the paper that covers the chassis and it was one from Cinestill 50D. So weird!
oh to shoot to be able to shoot kodachrome 😔
Why? Clearly you never shot Kodachrome. By current standards it was slow (ISO 25 or 64; the 200 film never performed that well and was killed off quickly). It was very high contrast, making exposure critical, well beyond the sloppy standards of what passes today. It had very high saturation, a "good", but it's color fidelity was inferior to later and current Ektachrome. In the US, Kodachrome was mostly processed for the masses in one of several labs operated by Kodak; the dirt and scratches they would inflict would not pass today. You're imagining a film which has never existed. (Yes, I shot Kodachorme 10, 25 and 64 as they came along. K-25 was the good one. I switched to Ektachrome 64 when the improved E-4 process and film came out around 1962, and I never went back.)
@@randallstewart175 you must be fun at parties
I have some ektachrome 64 that expired around 30 years ago. I usually cross develop them to get interesting results. Normal development just renders them flat and rather boring.
I've been looking at eBay for some expired stuff. I also ordered some Portra 400 for my Brownie Hawkeye box camera. It hasn't been shot since my dad used it in the late 70s. Maybe I can find some expired 160? My old man shot all of his 70s stuff on my Miranda as slides on Kodachrome.
Wow, that’s so cool, go ahead and shoot some expired goodies Keith. Have fun! Cheers for watching :)
Consider me inspired. I was recently gifted a bunch of expired film from someone and I've been looking forward to trying it out
Do it you’ll have a lot of fun!
Currently shooting with some expired 2007 AfgaColorr 200. Quite interested in the results..
I got my hands on some Panatomic-X that expired in 1984, so I'm gonna sing a hail mary and give it a spin
😂😂 go for it my friend!
@@TatianaHopper I finished the roll. They all came out. It's riveting
so good
Kodak Plus-X 125
Fujifilm Provia 400X
Fujifilm Astia 100
Fujifilm Reala 100
Fujifilm Superia/Natura 1600
The bank account thing hits blunt *cries in film grain*
Ahahah
Someone is also a fan of Twin Peaks :)
Yes mam! :)
you've tempted me! I have an old Nikon F801S which I'll dust down.
In the meantime, happy New Year to you :-)
Fantastic, mission accomplished and a happy new year to you too!
Pan-X was the Kodachrome of B&W films.
100% agreed.
Panatomic x wasn't a panchromatic type film. It was a different type altogether.
And fujifilm pro400h is coming for the end...
Funnily enough I bought some expired ektarchrome 400 on 120 the other day, interested to see the results
Yes! Have fun!
Correct me if I am wrong but cinestill and another place sells (Film project? The name escapes me) Panatomic or you can roll it yourself
Panatomic has been discontinued for a long time. You can find expired rolls perhaps on eBay or on your grandparents house ;)
@@TatianaHopper True..I was thinking Double X.
My stash includes expired Agfapan in 120, Tri-X in 127 and Kodacolor-X in 620. Which one should I try first?
I would say choose depending on the weather and how much light you have because those films all have different levels of sensitivity to light.
God I love twin peaks ❤️