Captain Disillusion has an incredible video about Colour: ua-cam.com/video/FTKP0Y9MVus/v-deo.html (6:59) In this video he also mentions the vectorscope, how the waveform is created and what it displays
What an excellent video - perfect analysis of how colour works, and really a perfect illustration of what I said the other week - don't sweat the numbers. I wish I could do all that animation malarkey 'cos it makes concepts so much easier to understand.
Wow, I watch all your videos Andy, and they are all great. But from time to time you come up with something that I've never heard of and it immediately changes the way I look at things. This is one of those. Thanks!
Thanks Andy, This latest release is going to be something special. The info on wave form alignment in landscapes was extremely interesting to me. Hope I can remember all this when I go to try this out myself. Regards, Greg
Good stuff, I wish you had a picture with a color checker in it, and showed how to use the scopes with color checker. Glad they added the scopes though.
Apparently my comment about a greenish cast occurring when DxO Photolab 6 DNGs was loaded in RT 5.9 (experienced Dec 22) has been removed, and I guess it's YT preventing an informative link to the Pixls forum. I'll just kick in my latest observation: that greenish cast doesn't occur in ART a forked version of RT (with extended mask options, btw).
As always very useful video and good to see scopes are on the way in RT. Probably also useful for Affinity Photo users who haven't yet realised the usefulness of Scopes and just ignored them.
I didn't know Affinity had scopes Graham - wow, that certainly should be something that wakes Adobe up, as they only put them in their video software. Cheers🍻🍻🍻
@@AndyAstbury Yes, AP has had them since it was first released and its available for both raw and pixel editing. affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/index.html?page=pages/Panels/scopePanel.html?title=Scope%20panel
Very nice video where I actually learned something! Thanks. The only question I have is why didn't you use the WB picker on the sky in your landscape image? BTW I'm McCap at Pixls. Cheers
@@AndyAstbury In the initial head shot you mentioned the background is not perfectly grey, so you didn't use the white balance dropper. In the landscape, you moved the RGB of the clouds so they overlap, as if the clouds are perfect grey, and in that case you should have been able to use the white balance dropper to arrive at the same result. Is there something else going on in your color channel manipulation that would show different results compared to the white balance dropper?
Well timed tutorial Andy and not necessarily because I use RawTherapee either. I'm currently getting my head around DaVinci Resolve which features Vector Scopes and in all honesty I really didn't understand them. Whilst DaVinci is a video based program I'm sure what you have shown here translates across anyway. Figured it's about time I upped my video game with all this virus situation. Work is only going to get harder to find sadly so it pays to expand my service options beyond just photography 👍
It'll translate directly across to DaVinci. I think there is a masking facility in there that you can use instead of where I used the crop tool, and you might find a hue angle control which makes getting skin tones aligned with the skin tone line a little easier. We're all up against the wall with this covid thing so you're thoughts are very much in line with mine too! Cheers matey 🍻🍻
(edit: Solved for Mac, crash on export: Preferences > General > Appearance...Changed from the default theme of RawTherapee to TooWaGrey - Dark. Looking forward to 5.9. I don't think I can live without RawTherapee). How do you get involved in the 5.9 preview? I need to report a bug, but would like to try the 5.9 as part of testing. I see some github concepts, but nothing really clear.
5.9 is not released yet. I'm using the dev build. If you are on Intel Mac then this is the link kd6kxr.keybase.pub/RawTherapee_macOS_10.15_x86_64_5.8-3065-g9c5ce0d9b.zip If you are on PC Windows then I suggest going and asking for a dev link on the forum here discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee/14 as there are many dev builds for windows which are processor-specific - skylake etc.
Do you have any videos about the Retinex module? I can't find any good info about it and I'm trying to find a thorough workflow. The rawpedia entry for it is a bit like word salad to me.
An evil joke: An Irishman leaves the pub one night... ;O) and drunkenly stumbles down the sidewalk, yelling obscenities. A Nun happens to pass by the Irishman and gives him a smile. The drunken fool suddenly begins to punch the Nun repeatedly. He slams her against a brick wall and kicks her while she's down. At this point a crowd of horrified witnesses have gathered and pulled the Irishman away from the bloody Nun. A few of them immediately go to assist the Nun. As the others drag the Irishman away from the scene he repeatedly screams, "Not so tough tonight are ya, Batman?!"
Captain Disillusion has an incredible video about Colour: ua-cam.com/video/FTKP0Y9MVus/v-deo.html (6:59)
In this video he also mentions the vectorscope, how the waveform is created and what it displays
What an excellent video - perfect analysis of how colour works, and really a perfect illustration of what I said the other week - don't sweat the numbers.
I wish I could do all that animation malarkey 'cos it makes concepts so much easier to understand.
Wow, I watch all your videos Andy, and they are all great. But from time to time you come up with something that I've never heard of and it immediately changes the way I look at things. This is one of those. Thanks!
Thank you Akos!
Holy s***! Rawtherapee just keeps on getting better and better.
Doesn't it just - cheers 🍻🍻
Thanks Andy,
This latest release is going to be something special. The info on wave form alignment in landscapes was extremely interesting to me. Hope I can remember all this when I go to try this out myself.
Regards,
Greg
Cheers Greg 🍻 Yes, special is the word indeed.
Good stuff, I wish you had a picture with a color checker in it, and showed how to use the scopes with color checker. Glad they added the scopes though.
Cheers Tom. With a CChecker just use a lockable colour picker over your chosen patch and adjust until it matches the patch specifications.
Thanks Andy,
very good explanation of the waveform and vectorscape from a usability viewpoint !!!
Cheers Ingo, and cheers to the rest of the dev team who make this all possible!
Absolutely brilliant. Much(!) appreciated.
CHEERS!
I been hoping for vector scopes since I have learned about them.
Wow, great video! I learned a lot and I am looking forward to the new release.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Apparently my comment about a greenish cast occurring when DxO Photolab 6 DNGs was loaded in RT 5.9 (experienced Dec 22) has been removed, and I guess it's YT preventing an informative link to the Pixls forum.
I'll just kick in my latest observation: that greenish cast doesn't occur in ART a forked version of RT (with extended mask options, btw).
As always very useful video and good to see scopes are on the way in RT. Probably also useful for Affinity Photo users who haven't yet realised the usefulness of Scopes and just ignored them.
I didn't know Affinity had scopes Graham - wow, that certainly should be something that wakes Adobe up, as they only put them in their video software. Cheers🍻🍻🍻
@@AndyAstbury Yes, AP has had them since it was first released and its available for both raw and pixel editing.
affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/index.html?page=pages/Panels/scopePanel.html?title=Scope%20panel
Marvelous, thank you!
Cheers 🍻🍻
Very nice video where I actually learned something! Thanks.
The only question I have is why didn't you use the WB picker on the sky in your landscape image? BTW I'm McCap at Pixls. Cheers
Cheers. Why? For the same reason I said in the video on the initial head shot!
@@AndyAstbury In the initial head shot you mentioned the background is not perfectly grey, so you didn't use the white balance dropper. In the landscape, you moved the RGB of the clouds so they overlap, as if the clouds are perfect grey, and in that case you should have been able to use the white balance dropper to arrive at the same result. Is there something else going on in your color channel manipulation that would show different results compared to the white balance dropper?
Well timed tutorial Andy and not necessarily because I use RawTherapee either. I'm currently getting my head around DaVinci Resolve which features Vector Scopes and in all honesty I really didn't understand them. Whilst DaVinci is a video based program I'm sure what you have shown here translates across anyway. Figured it's about time I upped my video game with all this virus situation. Work is only going to get harder to find sadly so it pays to expand my service options beyond just photography 👍
It'll translate directly across to DaVinci. I think there is a masking facility in there that you can use instead of where I used the crop tool, and you might find a hue angle control which makes getting skin tones aligned with the skin tone line a little easier.
We're all up against the wall with this covid thing so you're thoughts are very much in line with mine too!
Cheers matey 🍻🍻
Amazing explanation as always.
When will this update be available for download?
No idea, as I said on the video. But you could install the dev build and have it straight away!
@@AndyAstbury i went to their github. I see only 5.8. could you guide me a bit? Thanks.
Just get the 5.8 2629 version... it has all this. I guess it will be called 5.9 once it is released.
(edit: Solved for Mac, crash on export: Preferences > General > Appearance...Changed from the default theme of RawTherapee to TooWaGrey - Dark. Looking forward to 5.9. I don't think I can live without RawTherapee). How do you get involved in the 5.9 preview? I need to report a bug, but would like to try the 5.9 as part of testing. I see some github concepts, but nothing really clear.
As I said in the video, ask on the RT forum. All you need to do is download the nightly build source code - the forum will help you!
@@AndyAstbury A bit of panic from me as I found Raw Therapee an excellent tool to learn. Thanks for the follow up.
Nice tutorial , learned a lot watching it. I downloaded RawTherapee, but its not 5.9, do you know where I can download it, thanks?
5.9 is not released yet. I'm using the dev build. If you are on Intel Mac then this is the link kd6kxr.keybase.pub/RawTherapee_macOS_10.15_x86_64_5.8-3065-g9c5ce0d9b.zip
If you are on PC Windows then I suggest going and asking for a dev link on the forum here discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee/14 as there are many dev builds for windows which are processor-specific - skylake etc.
@@AndyAstbury thank you so much, again I appreciate your tutorials.
Do you have any videos about the Retinex module? I can't find any good info about it and I'm trying to find a thorough workflow. The rawpedia entry for it is a bit like word salad to me.
local adjustments is only present in the preview for now?
They are in the nightly build for windows/linux and the new Mac test build I mentioned here ua-cam.com/video/l8-dyQJu7sI/v-deo.html
An evil joke: An Irishman leaves the pub one night... ;O) and drunkenly stumbles down the sidewalk, yelling obscenities.
A Nun happens to pass by the Irishman and gives him a smile. The drunken fool suddenly begins to punch the Nun repeatedly. He slams her against a brick wall and kicks her while she's down. At this point a crowd of horrified witnesses have gathered and pulled the Irishman away from the bloody Nun. A few of them immediately go to assist the Nun. As the others drag the Irishman away from the scene he repeatedly screams, "Not so tough tonight are ya, Batman?!"
Wow. I'm surprised they're not going to call it RT 6 rather than 5.9 with all they're doing to it.
Cheers buddy 🍻 There's a thread on the forum somewhere about the 5.9 reasoning - you watch, they'll change their minds now😆
any idea on 5.9 release date? or where i can download the dev?
Hi Kurt - no clue as to release date of 5.9 but all info you need is here discuss.pixls.us/c/software/rawtherapee/14
@@AndyAstbury Thank you