It’s Not the Cow It’s the How | Bobby Gill | TEDxBigSky
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2020
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"Eat less meat! Get rid of all livestock!" It's the war cry for the environmentally-conscious, but what if we're accidentally destroying our global grasslands in the process? In this thought-provoking talk, Bobby Gill of the Savory Institute discusses the symbiosis between grasslands and grazer, and why everyone -- regardless of dietary choice -- depends on properly-managed livestock for regenerating these dying landscapes. To learn more about the Savory Institute, visit www.savory.global
Bobby Gill leads development and communications for the Savory Institute - a non-profit teaching farmers, ranchers, and pastoralist communities across the globe to regenerate the world’s grasslands with Holistic Management.
Whether it be the Maasai in Kenya, gauchos in Patagonia, sheepherders in Norway, or cowboys in the American West, the Savory Global Network has trained land managers of all types to utilize the land-regenerating potential of Holistic Management within their cultural and ecological context. Since 2009, Savory has begun regenerating over 25 million acres of desertifying grasslands to address the root cause of food, water, and climate security. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
This speech deserves way more than 62k views. Especially the EV & impossible burger activists, they don't understand that they are buying into marketing that's highly detrimental to our environment. All of them said they care, but few actually bothered to learn. Great presentation~!
In the 70s in Rhodesia we were teaching our farmers to use the Savory system to keep our natural bush healthy. And it worked in every aspect.
There ought to be 8 billion likes on this TEDx Talk.
Thank you for putting this out there! The savory institute is why I'm planning in entering agriculture as my career/passion with focus on regenerative agriculture
We love to hear that! Check into our Accredited Professionals program as a resource to learn the methods Bobby covered in this talk.
@@SavoryInstitute "Eat less meat! Get rid of all livestock!" It's the war cry for the environmentally-conscious, but what if we're accidentally destroying our global grasslands in the process?
@@happinessyogateacher it is and that's what Allan savoy who founded the savoy institute has proven decades ago and only now has his methods gained popularity
@@happinessyogateacher truth heals. love heals. regen ag, caring for cows heals.
How is it going now with agriculture career
Please continue featuring the people and work of the savory institute! Great and important work! Thank you Bobby!
Thank you Bobby Gill for putting passion back into our ego systems✨️🙌🏻🫶🏻👍🏻👏🏻✨️I just watched you on a podcast with Debra Silverman, and then I searched and found this Ted Talk!
Thank you from my heart! We all need a little patch of Heaven and return to being the caretakers that we are granted to be here on Earth 🌎 🙏🏻
@@hippiecowgirl4231 we've got to✨️ light up passion✨️ into our ego. You can control it✨️🙌🏻✨️
This is the most succinct talk I've found on the Savory method. Great Talk!!!
We would love to turn our farm from ecological into holistic management, but we are getting older and need younger generations, thank you for sharing.
I would love to run a farm but I don't have multi-millions of dollars to buy a farm.
@@davekohler5957 Do you work in farming now?
I see a lot of industrial farms here who don't graze, and the have kids (both m/f), but kids aren't interested, I started on the same industrial-way-farm, I liked plowing and mowing fields, but somehow it got boring and we had enough troubles in the barn, and an emptying bank account as milk prices didn't go up and costs just keep rising, I started feeding fresh grass, and well costs stopped rising somehow, but dependent on machinery and still it was a lot of work, once I started grazing the dairy cows it got way more fun and with new seed mixes of clover (=free nitrogen), cichorium millefolium (healthier cows free minerals), I almost have stopped used fertilizer this year and all the cattle can now graze from about 1,5 months. Yes we have robotic milking system, but it doesn't keep us from grazing our cattle.
Really intelligent argument. Well done. We need to think more intelligently about our soil.
Excellent work. I’ve been saying livestock is great for the soil but it’s hard to get anybody to listen, well done sir.
In this case, you are right. I am a omnivore but the fact is, that by far most livestocks are not held in a regenerative practice - but in a very degenerative one. For the soil, of the animal health and digestive system and the climate. Also meat consumption is 10x higher than it used to be historically and that is healthy for humans.
Such a great talk, short and clear. Our future lies in the hands of regenerative agriculture.
It truly does!
or range fire conditions like in Kansas that also removes the landowner.
We are 1st generation farmers who practice regenerative farming and love tending to our soil, using plants and ruminants to heal our land. We only have 40 acres, though. This is a barrier to our expansion in doing our part. Land is $9,000 per acre around us, with a requirement of 30% down...by the time we save enough, it will be time to retire from farming. Farmers around us have no interest in this type of agriculture. They prefer to do it the way it has always been done. I would love to see a solution to the barrier to entry.
Renting or leasing farmland is often talked about for those getting started, especially if you can find land that's not being used that's close to yours.
Absolutely love you people. Keep it up and don't stop the work. It's the vegan churches you need to change the minds of. They've been changing the face of the land and the minds of the public for decades about meat and the we eat.
Incredible talk. it gives hope that our civilisation will find the force to shift the paradigm to overcome the epidemiology obstacles. We need to take action right now !
Excellent talk. Wonderful to have a positive message and a clear example of how working with the ecosystem has such a productive result
This is a really inspiring talk. Awesome work Bobby!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
UA-cam is hiding this video. I can't believe it only has 20k views in a year.
This is truly amazing. I fully support this philosophy.
This is great info. Very thought-provoking. This is a succinct talk on what is needed for grassland regeneration. Thinking holistically is difficult for a Westernized, reductionist, in-a-box scientist, but it is very important!
Thank you Bobby for your passion and enthusiasm, nice and brief, explaining how holistic management and planned grazing can turn around agriculture, to benefit all life on this planet.
Oh, the beautiful Maasai. They're such magnificent people.
Alan Savory and Holistic Management are right on the mark. Whether it is 60 years or not depends on SOIL regeneration. Dedesertification is the KEY, isn't it?
Really inspiring!!! I've started to work with holistic management to be like the farmer from Georgia. Greetings from Argentina!
Love this - it’s so important that we don’t lose all our livestock - we need to get rid of feedlots and severely limit the amounts of processed foods manufactured (allowing more land for nutrient dense meat production) the supermarkets need to be full of real food - not jars and packets. Then our grandchildren and their grandchildren stand a chance.
Agreed it starts with us. Sadly the packaging of everything is ridiculous. I have a micro farm with 3 cows. I use no chemicals
@@davidhickenbottom6574 Even with 70 cows I can produce milk and meat without antibiotics and fertilizer.
We produce more meat per pound of feed, and gallon of water, than anyone else in the world.
Only the cattle going to market go to feed lots. The breeding stock after about age 2 stay on pasture or corn or bean stover most of the year.
You just don't see the breeding stock because they're scattered out in canyons and hillsides that can't be farmed.
Great speech, great orator!
Allan Savory covered this
It’s great to see and hear it again but I’m wondering why 10 years+ later we are still talking and not all immersed in applying this formula (be it in farming or as a consumer finance this system of operating)
We all should be talking about this !! And putting our efforts behind getting this new thinking into our present and future living models
Yes, we should. I've been aware of regenerative agriculture for over 4 years now and it's interesting to see how many more products are on the market that adhere to this method of farming: pasture-raised eggs, pork, and chicken, grass-fed meats and dairy products, and they seem to be increasing. I had to look in specialty stores for these kinds of foods four years ago. Now, they seem to be everywhere!
I think we should force every politician in each country to attend all these talks over and over again!
They're making too much money from industrial farming of sugar, wheat, and soy and the farmers are being paid by the government for it.
Beautiful presentation love it eco-friendly pasture concept
I often find myself in the sustainability discussion, where can I find a list of universities, scientists, ideally trusted sources of information that I could quote whilst trying to convince people I am not mad. I am familiar with the savoury institutes work, and I think I am convinced holistic grazing is the way forward. But that doesn't help convincing other people.
Good video,
Thanks
A good basis is to agree that there is a simple physical/chemical truth that cannot be disputed, and that is that nothing comes out of a cow that doesn't go in it. What we are talking about is CO2 and CH4 ergo H2, O2, and C12, and it will always be in a balance.
If you take the above basis, then the truth discussion becomes are the soils being depleated or regenerated.
If carbon contents in the ground increases it is regenerating and if it decreases it gets depleated.
@@jenspetersen5865 "Eat less meat! Get rid of all livestock!" It's the war cry for the environmentally-conscious, but what if we're accidentally destroying our global grasslands in the process?
The Savory Institute might have your answer. All the best in your search!
@@jenspetersen5865 liked your clear example of IF, THEN. Thank you! :-)
Please search for 'Project Drawdown' (preferably with the Ecosia search engine *winkyface*) and you will get all the info and graphics on climate crisis and sustainability. This is where it's at. It is also amazing material for classroom situations.
Please check out 'Project Drawdown' and share it with your family and friends!
Such a cool concept, I hope you've been able to do much good during the year that passed!
Thank you
Way to go!!!
I read the NOTE FROM TED after watching this exceptional talk, and it makes me think of Darwin being challenged by his "peer" scientists. They can challenge whatever they want, the images on the results, talk by themselves, and are prove of the amazing work done by the Savory Institute.
Think I’m ready to become a farmer
Good argument.
Awesome 👍
Plants can also be grown with regenerative practices, and therefore can also be net negative carbon. Please let's all support each other in all efforts to drawdown.
There will be land areas that will work best with holistically managed grazing animals, and there will be land areas that will work best growing plants regeneratively. We will have both and will find the balance that is most sustainable for our land, ecosystems, and health of our human bodies.
A main key is stop cutting down rain forest to grow soy for export and which depleats those areas of carbon to feed cows in a different continent where carbon is a problem. Have cows eat stuff you have locally - don't plow a field if a cow could eat the straw.
That's the spirit, we should quit industrial farming, and start regenerative, more people should come back to exploited lands and start regenerative farming, farm life can be so good and we don't need the mass-production, here in Holland there are still people with 50 cows who make a living, I know the American wants big farms and lets the small farms down, but locally there must be a lot possible.
@@jenspetersen5865 Farmers should ask themselves, who gets better from buying expensive soy and stuff, big AG, or the farmer, grass based is the cheapest way to produce meat. And environmentally.
@@Hakkeholt Depends on how one defines 'Americans'. Many Americans truly want or would want to support small sustainable farms, but they have different understandings of how to do that or feel helpless that they can't change the giant industrial farming system we have. Many give up because it's so complicated. Or, many people simply have no idea, they go to grocery stores and don't know where the food comes from or how to even find out. Finally, there are Americans who are trying to make changes happen, but it's a slow and painful process.
@@Hakkeholt I think that you get trapped in not understanding production economy. Farming is a business where revenues and costs (fixed and variable) have to be weighed.
We need to think in better or worse rather than good or bad. It is likely so that on certain lands fertiliser and feed stuff is great and on others it is pollution.
The Savory Institute seems to have a very sensible way of doing a lot of good.
Ryan gosling is so smart
Hey girl. Thanks for that.
Nice...
12:48 nice graph
that's my uncle!!
4:30 "Undergrazed" my foot. grass doesn't just die off if its not grazed, that's just set-stock over-grazed land.
'Note from TED; statements from this talk have been challenged by scientists working in this field' (quoted from above). I would be interested to know which statements, can TED be transparent about these? My understanding is there is still a lot of debate in the literature surrounding this issue. Very interesting topic.
Allow me to translate, Statements in this talk have been challenged by PETA type nuts and their employees.
@Richard Cranium Yep. Also we need to keep in mind that Gates is heavily invested in the fake meat industry. Or at least that's what I've read. I didn't know Gates was connected to Epstein,but I'm not surprised. I also suspect Gates of being into Eugenics. I can't guarantee it,but I have suspicions.
I think it is the "Food Climate Research Network", which is financed by the big food, for example through the "Carasso foundation". Carasso was the founder of Danone and Danone is deeply involved in this type of pseudoscientific propaganda...
The "Food Climate Research Network" also published this propaganda pamphlet "Grazed and confused"...
To think all scientists are perfectly fair in their judgment about everything is pretty far-fetched. Most all have their biases as well as their sponsors.
"Statements in this talk have been challenged by scientists working in this field" - yes, "scientists" payed by the fertilizers, food and pharma industries...
And by vegan animal rights commies.
oh my god i love this talk so much😜🤪😍🥰😘
This is one of the most effective ways to mitigate global warming and draw down carbon. I wonder which 'scientists' are challenging statements in this speech and to what ends.
" Statements in this talk have been challenged by scientists working in this field." Aren't the experts the people who got us to where we are? The Ogalala aquifer drawn down, failing fields, not enough nutrients in the fields? Many of the people behind these grazing ideas are actually experts in their fields. I love TED, but it does get much of it's funding from the entrenched bureaucracy. Even the environmental movement has its bureaucrats.
Replacing all the deserts with grasslands with is solution to multiple of lack of carbon sinks, food scarcity & unemployment.
And it's always better to eat grassfed beef then soyfed beef...
In India we almost do not consume beef and approximately 80 percent of livestock is kind of free range. In Chhattisgarh state from where I am posting this the government is doing great in an umbrella scheme called Suraji Gram Yojana, you should have a look into it.
Interesting, very counter to the idea of the destructive cow. I believe the cow has become the environmental scapegoat of sorts.
Hi. What does a pound of ‘regenerative’ beef cost? Who can afford it? Local organic turkeys in my area cost $10/lb. Who can pay $180 for a Thanksgiving turkey?
I paid 3.80 a lbs for half a cow raised regeneratively. Areas may differe, but if you buy in bulk its cheaper.
The price is going to vary depending on local markets, who the producer is, what their operation looks like, etc etc. At my local Natural Grocers, I can pick up a pound of beef from Thousand Hills Lifetime Grazed for I believe $5.99. They are the brand of the Savory Institute's Hub in Minnesota, so their producers all practice Holistic Management and they are collecting Ecological Outcome Verification data to support regenerative claims which will soon be featured on their label. Now, they have a large producer network and have worked hard to get this price down for consumers, so I don't always expect to find this great of a deal. A more typical price range is closer to $10/lb, but with the greater nutrient-density and the all the ecological co-benefits that come along with it, I'd happily pay that price for a pound of beef (and I recognize I am privileged to be able to do so).
Turkeys as you've mentioned, and most any other poultry that is pasture-raised, is definitely pricey. Ruminants are the most cost-effective product to come off pasture since they require just grass and water. Poultry pick and scratch for bugs, but to be economically viable for a farmer they need supplemental feed, which drives up the price for such a small animal. Hogs and other monogastrics are less efficient at converting forage to animal weight gain because they have one stomach, compared to ruminants who have four, including the rumen that specializes in converting forage to calories.
Now comparing the price of beef from regenerating land to that coming from conventional industrial practices (feedlots, etc.), it will always cost more because the true costs of the conventional beef has been externalized and you're paying for an overall lesser product. The environmental impact isn't factored in, grain feed has been subsidized to lessen the costs of fattening livestock, and the supply chains have been massively industrialized to take advantage of scale, but that comes at a great cost environmentally, for the people that are marginalized, and so on and so on.
In an ideal world, more farmers and ranchers will migrate from conventional practices over to regenerative and the prices should decrease. That's what we're working on at the Savory Institute. Further, if government subsidies stopped incentivizing the feedlot system, beef from regenerating land would further become more affordable, arguably the most affordable product out there in terms of cost for nutrition and ecological impact.
That turkey migh be injected with water and maybe something else to make it look good, but in fact it hasn't seen much daylight the last years, a simple diet of grain grain and grain, and some antibiotics , vaccinations, syntethic minerals/vitamins, to keep it healthy somehow.
Those of us that can afford it and do so are making the change that every one will benefit from down the line. Look at organic veggies, much easier to find now than twenty years ago.
When you think about the consequences of not supporting regenerative agriculture, it becomes much more affordable. Let's face it, this kind of meat is better for our health and better for the planet. Do we have kids or grandchildren we care about? Would we like a planet that's liveable for them in the future? Cut out something you would normally buy that's on the pricey side and do yourself and the planet a favor. It's cheaper than doctors and drugs.
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Information with an immediate and global impact. Last comment, #87, a year ago. Maybe if we get Rihanna to sing it?
the grasslands are the majority of our productive land, and way more than the area of forests. indeed healthy grasslands are bigger carbon sinks than forests. it is paramount we pay specific attention to our grasslands specially in brtille environments. degradation and desertification is continuing to expand... civilizations before went exting due to desertifiction around them. we can too.. only now our civilization is global.. and unlike tropical forests that always regrow... deserts don't become praires again on their own. deserts stay desert, unless we do something about it... now!
I've got a patch of land in the Free State of South Africa, close to the Lesotho border. About half of the patch I keep wild, and nothing grazing on it. And it's growing grass about waist high. From what you are saying it should be desertifying. But its not?
He didn't say that it all was, just a large percentage
Look also at the bare ground between plants. In one of Allan Savory's talks, he shows a horizontal view out into a field, which looks good. But then he shows another photo looking *down* at the soil, and it's hard as concrete, with lots of bare ground between plants.
Is your land located near a desert? What is the climate in that area?
@@DaWozzMan We are a water scarce country and the highveld where I live is a summer rainfall area. It almost never rains in winter. But as I understand it here in the Free State many thousands of years ago was a vast inland lake. My patch of land is mostly clay. Improving it is a mission
It can be for a number of reasons it is important to note that every rangeland and ecosystem is different and has different requirements to be holistically managed. Just because some ecosystem have evolved with grazers dosen't mean every ecosystem has. Another frequent disturbance might have taken place that kept your plot of land a rangeland. Clay soils also have much higher water retention which can also be affecting your land.
The most important issue is noticed least, why ?
You need a registered symbol for holistically produced beef so anyone can know what they are buying.
IMO 10,000 years of buffalo poo and urea couldn't have been bad for the Great Plains...
He's right about everything except CO2 levels. This type of grazing will sequester more CO2 -- true. But high CO2 levels relationship with temperature is a logarithmic function. Several ice ages have been associated with very high CO2. The bulk of plants is carbon from the CO2 they pull our of the air...and the micro nutrients in the soil and the water proper grazing allows to remain in the soil longer.
I think he mentions the climate change arguments because it's one city dwellers will focus on.
Well, considering we should be moving towards an ice age and yet are warming the planet instead, seems to me CO2 must have a lot to do with it. But it isn't the only greenhouse gas. There are others like water and methane, both of which can be moved out of the atmosphere and into the soil, methane to be consumed by bacteria and water which condenses to rain makes the soil moist and fertile while refilling the streams and aquifers. All these gases are normalized by regenerative agriculture, certainly not by industrialized agriculture.
@@wendyscott8425 But are we warming? Too much data comes from asphalt covered cities. The satellite data is too recent to claim long term trends. Mountain top glaciers are showing unexpected ages revealed by subglacial vegetation remnants, ice core tales and climate history revealed by marine deposits keep messing up the preferred message...
If the plant-based burgers came from regenerative practices that number would be much different.
Not really.
Yeah, what is grazing the plants and feeding the soil biology? Metal gas guzzling equipment?
Maybe they could get manure from factory farms, liquify it, and spread it over our grasslands.
it is just that cows produce methane
...and healthy grasslands allow for methane-oxidizing bacterial species (methanotrophs) to exist, which counteracts the enteric emissions.
Nice talk, he knows how to catch the audience with storytelling ;) But lacking of some information and not objetive. Examples: Talking about his friends meat farm and if everybody would consume that meat the world would be good. He ignores the fact that we dont have that space to raise so many animals like the world eats it... so of course people have to eat less meat products... and desertification? grasland binds not that much as trees do. Less "grass land" to feed the animals but more forests would be way more effective and healthy forests are much more resilient against the erosion bc of wind and draught periods + binding CO2 and wildlife diversity. Moreover desertification raises with the amount of crops which are produced to feed the animals nowadays (that is a good point when he says that farmers should not import the food for their animals which is produced in large monocultures and often atvplaces where rain forest used to be). And I want to point out his comparison between "good meat" from his friend and "Beyond Burger". Why doesnt he take a fake meat which is also produced in a sustainable way for an "honest" comparision? Bc his whole argument needs a comparison where his meat seems to be better. So he chooses examples like Beyond Meat and Wildlife stories to create a biased mindset in the audience based on cherry picking and misinformation covered in flowerish stories. Thats sad bc otherwise it could have been a really good talk for people who are not willing to quit eating meat but want to live a little more sustainable.
Yes, he is trying to persuade people I won't disagree with you on that. I also appreciate the your thoughts. Below are my feedback to some of your comments based on my knowledge.
1. "He ignores the fact that we don't have that space to raise so many animals like the world eats it" where have you heard that? I don't think we are running out of space.
2. Problem with forests is they are can not grow in semi arid environments, or are burned before they can accumulate enough carbon to make a difference.
3. Is his argument these are grass-fed cattle. Wouldn't need much if any grain inputs. And people like eating meat, so telling people to eat less is a hard argument to make.
Actually, consuming more grass-fed meat would be good. People get a LOT of complete nutrition from good beef and other pasture-raised animals. Our prehistoric ancestors ate practically nothing but meat. A miracle, isn't it? They had no doctors, no dentists, no processed food, very few edible vegetables, only seasonal fruits, and berries where they could find them. They were called hunter-gatherers for a reason! And here we are. Yes, a freaking miracle. LOL
Is it just me or does he look a lot like Ryan Gosling?
Can Cows talk
but but but, PLANT GOOD ANIMALS BAD!
The 75 million bison were only there for 20K and were only there because man burned the forests of north and South America. Just sayin.
How can we believe this guy. At the very start he shows all of the Australian outback as grassland. For goodness sake the Australian outback is mainly deep desert. No grass. No bison herds, no herds of anything, ever, at least in the last 100,000 years. His basic evidence is severely wrong.
And any conflicts of evidence? His experience is almost all in the USA, and he has had lots of work with the US pastoralists.
There may be a grain of truth, especially about feedlots, which most of the meat producers use in the US.
He is full of BS
Your agument for regenerative farming is good , but to claim that co2 needs to go back in the ground "where it belongs" is false , it belongs below and above ground , most of the time the earth has existed the median level has been 1200ppm , we are in a CO2 drought and 400 has already increased plant growth all over the globe by 40%. Distinguise between pollution and climate , dont use false propaganda even on a great cause , it diminishes your cause.
"NOTE FROM TED: Statements in this talk have been challenged by scientists working in this field. "
Read "grazed and confused?" from Food Climate Research Network, Oxford Martin Programme on the Future of Food, and:
Environmental Change Institute, University of Oxford.
I wonder who funds the oxford martin school....???
"the University's largest single source of UK income (25%) is research funding from bodies such as charities, foundations, research councils, trusts, and industry; Oxford consistently has the highest external research income of any university in the UK.
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The industry, the industry, pharma, big Ag, and so on has no financial interest in regenerative farming.
Regenerative AG don't need their products..