Everything hitting DIFFERENTLY since episode 14 guys 😭 Omg... Share your thoughts below and I hope you enjoy my conversation before/after the episode 💙
The common consensus about Himmel's expression during his conversation with Voll is about his realisation that Frieren will suffer the same as Voll once he passes. Hence solidifying his decision never to explicitly explain to Frieren his true feelings to her.
Congrats on making it halfway through Season One. 😁 I'm re-watching this now, re-documenting the differences between the ongoing manga and the anime (for I lost my file a few weeks ago)... my niece and I are comparing notes. 🥂
It took me a bit of time to realize that Himmel thought of Frieren while talking to Voll. The micro expression on his face is soo subtle and yet telling. I think this is the moment he realized to not go all in and become straight forward with confessing his feelings to Frieren. He did not want for Frieren to become the same as Vоll - clinging to a vow she took to Himmel. It is even in ED's Milet Lyrics - Even without any promises/vow/oath.
Hell yeah. I love this scene so much. I have nothing but praises to Madhouse. We know all the amazing sakuga in this show, but I love how they almost gave more attention to these small moments. The scene you're describing is much simple in the manga. This is not a slight to the manga but is instead a praise to the production of this anime on how they elevated small moments that most would miss in their first watch but elevate the whole scene exponentially once you notice it. EDIT: Holy shit I just noticed how poetic that was since treasuring the small insignificant details during your 2nd adventure is Frieren's whole theme.
@@Jude-yk9uc Dude, even in Ep 2 when we see Frieren using the flower spell with the Heroes' party, Heiter and Eisen looked so amazed because they're seeing it for the first time, but Himmel's expression is subtle, more "This spell takes me back, it's what made me adore her so much" type of face.
Old Man Voll was finally actually starting to lose his memory, and the "senile act" was becoming less of an act. He had forgotten that the Demon King was already defeated. Frieren realized that while talking to him.
A little detail about this chapter. Frieren always says "See you later", but she says "Goodbye" to Old Man Voll. I think Frieren really isn't sure if she will ever see Old Man Voll again, so she specifically says "Goodbye" to her old friend.
what frieren said to Voll was "Ja ne" (じゃあね), which is like "see ya", very casual. So I don't think it implies she is not sure if she'll see Voll again. The other phrase, "Meta ne" is indeed closer to "see you later", with a stronger hint of seeing you again
It is strange, but true. My mother died when I was a teenager, and without looking at photos or videos, it is hard for me to remember her face or her voice. However, the love that she gave me will stay with me with the rest of my life. Her teachings have made me who I am now. With time, you end up forgetting details about long gone love ones, but what remains is the true essence of their memory to you.
It was sad forme too. My grandfather couldn't remember my face, but when i told him my name he just said "Oh, i have a grandkid with that same name, he's chubby and about this tall(putting his hand to his waist height). Everytime dementia comes up i tear up a little.
So glad to hear you will be reacting to The Apothecary Diaries, that show together with Frieren made the last winter season one of my favorite anime seasons of all times
@@PortalPedia it's a totally different setting from Frieren, which is Fantasy. Apocathery Diaries in a nutshell is Sherlocks Holmes x Gregory House in the form of a fiesty petite girl who is also caught in the cross-fires of warring concubines in China's Forbidden cities.
@@PortalPediaif you liked frieren you my like it as well, it has good animation, have to say it might not be the taste for everyone but I do really like it and I would recommend it
One of the coolest things about this show is how frequently it reveals new information that lets you put previous information in context and makes you rethink everything you've seen, and yet it never makes you feel like it was withholding that additional information from you. That information just wasn't relevant before, and now it is.
I love this series so much. Did you know that the show got so popular In Japan that the phrase "勇者ヒンメルならそうした" ("That's what Himmel the Hero would have done") reached the mainstream culture and is now used in everyday interactions, when it comes down to being kind?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and analysis. I thought you were spot on this episode. For me the most painful part of this episode was the theme of memory loss - Voll knows he is defending the village that his wife loved, even if the townsfolk have no idea why he's doing it and he himself can't even remember. Likewise, the population at large has forgotten about Kraft and his righteous trumiphs, but they get to live in a world he saved. He's the sole carrier of those historic memories and bringing them into the future, just like how Frieren might be the last one on her end way into the future, perhaps in another thousand years. The most heartbreaking part is that Kraft had a chance to share his righteous trimuphs so that it wouldn't be so cruel for no one to remember their deeds, only for Frieren to pass. That, combined with Kraft's class change from warrior to monk, makes him one of the most interesting and tragic characters we have met so far. He seems way older than Frieren, and seems to have processed his memory and come to peace with how his companion changed him, and might have recognized that Frieren was in a similar process - she also had a good friend in Heiter who praised him down here- which may imply that his priest friend was similar only for him to not understand until later when he convered into a monk and became a goddess believer.
Every episode with a Himmel flashback is bound to make me cry. Also, I can’t wait to learn more about Kraft! What did he save the world from? Who was the priest helping him?
My personal hope for Sein’s friend is that he fell in love, settled down somewhere and started a family. And that is why he was never able to travel back to journey with Sein.
loved Voll's segment, it's one of my favourite short stories, this anime does a great job at creating good storytelling with just a few minutes of screen time. Good thing is Frieren has immaculate memory, i guess elves brain need to remember tens of thousand of years, since Frieren is still young she remembers all her life easily. Even her memories of Flamme are crystal clear.
I love the way they capture photos in this world. They touched on it a little back in episode 2, with Fern and her parents. (And maybe one other time that I can't remember for sure?) But it's so cool that they use magic for it. In a world without things like cameras. The little shimmer surrounding the photo makes me think of the world of Harry Potter, with how photos there feel so alive. You almost expect to see the photo of Gorilla and Sein having them laughing together while posing for the shot. It's brilliant.
Amazing reaction. You caught pretty much every implication of the flashbacks in episodes 14 and 16 on past episodes even to the one all the way back in episode 5 about not forgetting Himmel and not leaving Frieren alone. One of the only reactors to do so on first watch.
I love this ep so much. Because he loves his wife so much, even he doesn't remember her. That's why I'm getting emotional. This is real love. Because he promised his wife and protecting his wife's hometown. and when he talked with frieren he dreamed about her😭😭😭. And himmel understood his decision....
Kraft did say that everyone that knew of his good deeds is long dead. To be so old that the world doesn't even know who you were. And those statues are made of pure stone. So, he is old old.
Actually Frieren could be also a Game. Probably this is one of the reasons why this Anime hit so good. It bring subtile a lot Gaming culture from old games and classics into a anime. Or reverse because i don't know who actually started this. (for example that priest have a high resistance against dark magic and so on). It could be possible that the same Mage also do a Photo with Fern and her Family, cause it fit the time that happend. For my opinion, this Episode is the point were it is obviously the point you can sense that Frieren also is positively changed. Memories beside time is the most precious thing a human can have.
Most of the Japanese Western high fantasy genre is based in things like Sword World and Dragon Quest, and the Sword World ttrpg was made because TSR didn't like that someone was making money off of their D&D campaign in Japan, and Dragon Quest was basically Japan's console gaming answer to the madly popular PC gaming franchises Wizardry and Ultima, both of which trace their lineage back to when people tried to translate D&D into "computer gaming". So yes! Frieren is definitely of a lineage, considering Dragon Quest is almost compulsory education for Japanese gamers growing up lol
Why do I happy cry and sad cry and just plain cry every time I watch this show. Sometimes I just sit in bed for some time afterwards and remember all the wonderful things that have happened to me throughout my life, be they small flashes or momentous occasions, and I'm so thankful that show exists to remind me to stop and smell the roses, from time to time.
i like to think old man voll has alzheimer and his memories slowly fading away before his death. voll-oji said that they will carry the memories of himmel party to the future, but "memory" is an abstract thing. like people would remember flamme the mage, no one actually remember her appearance except two people (as of now). so himmel wanted to make statues of himself to accompany frieren into the future, so that she wont be lonely. he wanted to make him not just as abstract memory, but also to put himself tangible-- unfading. [edited after listening to discussion: voll AND flamme are the reasons why himmel wanted his statues made]
people forget when they get old,and this is probably the same for dwarves. I may also forget the beautiful tears you shed in episode14. But the memory of a beautiful woman crying in a touching scene will remain.
The first half of the episode is my favorite part of the series. I love Old Man Voll. And I cried my eyes out when he said he can't remember her. My God...
Two things to note here. First is the fact that Kraft is ancient as hell. Many viewers didn't understand that fact when Kraft said that Frieren is young but the series establishes this in this episode as an undeniable truth using a very simple way to do so. The statues. All the statues that Frieren and her companions had are bronze statues. That is because bronze was much easier to use and work with in this era, in real life bronze was used for sculpture from the 15th century AD if I'm not mistaken. In ancient Greece and Rome from 6th century BC up until the 10th century AD the material that was widely used in sculpture was marble. But the statues of Kraft and his companion was stone. Stone statues and figurines were created in the earliest known civilizations such as the Egyptians. That means from 5000 BC to 1000 BC. And that there tells us that when Kraft said that no one lives that remembers his righteous battles and triumphs, he really means it. And this is one of the clues that gives credence to the theory that Kraft was the ancient hero that used the Hero's Sword to defeat a Morgoth level threat back in the Age of Mythology as I mentioned in a previous comment in episode 12, and returned it to the stone after the end of his battle. Because if you see in the statue he is holding a sword that seems to be a little too similar to the Sword on the Stone. And Kraft is not carrying a sword with him right now. And he is a monk. Monks fight using martial arts, not weapons. So why does he carry a sword? The answer is because he needed to. And this theory gets even more convincing because Kraft says that he believes in the Goddess wholeheartedly. The reason he believes in her might be because he lived in the Age of Mythology, the only Age that the Goddess revealed herself to the races of the World, and he used the Sword which was Blessed by the Goddess to become the Hero's Sword in order to defeat the ancient evil that threatened to destroy the world. The second thing to note is a misconception that many had about Old man Voll. Voll is starting to forget naturally. He is old and his mind has started to fail. Frieren is shaken from this because she has lived a secluded life and has never been confronted with the fact that the mortal races might forget things. The Elves of this setting are Tolkienian Elves, meaning that they are practically immortal and have perfect memories. They do not forget anything and can preserve their memories forever. Frieren remembers everything, to her a memory of what she ate yesterday is the same with a memory of fighting over a scroll with Flamme 1000 years ago. That is why she was so shaken with Voll forgetting that they had already defeated the Demon King. Because she understood that her companions would not always remember her if she didn't keep in touch regularly. She never really understood the need to be around everyone because she never forgets anything, so even if she left for 10 years she would still remember everyone and their habits and could reconnect quite easily after that time without any problems. But that is not so for the mortal races. If we up and leave for 10 years and come back to our old town, even if we meet our old friends again, ten years have past, we are different people, with different lives and experiences and lives. And we might have forgotten a lot of the things that connected us in the past. Our memories are not perfect and our connection to the people around us need to be reinforced constantly so that those friendships and connections to continue to exist. Frieren for the first time understood that when she left, she almost made certain that Eisen, Heiter and Himmel would forget her. The very fact that they didn't, that they still remembered her and cherished her still even after she abandoned them for almost 50 years without a single contact is a miracle and only now she understood and appreciated it.
We have finally arrived to this episode, there's a bunch of theories revolving around what Himmel was thinking or feeling, tho we all agree was Frieren, here is my theory and why it seems that it hit me harder, when he was talking to Voll i immediately associated his situation with frieren, how it was very similar but some how opposite, how? In Voll's case he is the long living being, and his wife the human, in Himmel he is the human and frieren the long living being, Himmel seen how much voll suffer not just for the lost of memory but also her, maybe is why he never confessed his love to frieren, and chose to be the one who suffer instead of her, cause thats just what Himmel the hero would do, and yet he didn't want her to feel alone nor to forget his face, cause he knew that she will roam the same places they oncebroam together, so he wanted her to remember him with a smile on her face, and not just a blurry memory, but that's just my take one this, and that's why it hits ao hard for me, now i too think of them when I look to the sky.
Crystal clear memory and a continued sharpness of mind is another impressive aspect of Elvish immortality. I'm partial to the idea of mind magics being involved, but however it functions, the Elves we've met show no cognitive decline, which is nearly a super power itself alongside the lifespan.
I have been originally suspecting Himmel loving Frieren since that episode at the beginning where the straw-har kid flicks up her skirt and then Himmel lamenting that the kid saw sth that he always wanted to see. Before episode 14 that was basically also confirmed to me by him faintibg when she blew him a kiss. He was also always so caring, especially towards her. Love how all these hints were just piling across the episodes up until episode 14 finally confirming it for good (especially noticable on a rewatch). 7:45 I also like that Himmel knew the entire time that his relationship with her would not really work out, cause of their different lifespans and her noticing her love for him just to slowly for him to experience it in his lifetime. But he was at peace and ok with that and just loved her unconditionally and even built statues of him and the others so that she wouldn't be alone when they're all gone. :'-)
Something I noticed about Goddess magic was that the users all have some kind of holy book they use with the magic. I think it's a requirement to use that magic, like mages who use staves. Also, the next episode has a new intro and different outro so keep an eye out for that. The intro is hands down my favorite song out of 2024.
notice how Frieren says "take care" as if to not see again, cause she expects him to die, but when he tells her, he remembers... Frieren changes it to "see you" 😭
The reason it seems like episodes are split into two is because usually Frieren episodes are adapting two different chapters from the manga. I haven't read volume 11 yet, but so far the story keeps being amazing and emotional while being so simple somehow. Season 2 will be great, the anime has done an amazing job so far 😊
I'm guessing that the time of Kraft's hero-ing might have been the equivalent of the Babylonian or even Sumerian age. When Frieren was Flamme's apprentice, it looked to be Greco-Roman equivalent times, and I would think that she would have recognized Kraft's name if he was a big hero at the time. And, if they saved the world, it would have to have been before the Demon King's rise, otherwise the Demon King would have been what they would have needed to save it from. There's also a clue in the fact that it was Kraft and a priest in their partnership, and no mage, because it was before the time of any human mages.
Old Man Voll defending a village for 400 years when the average total life expectancy of dwarves is only 300 years dictates his memories would obviously be withered through time. It would make sense he forgot the demon lord's demise, but truthfully, despite it all, he still protects his village. The fall of the demon lord has not changed anything for him as monsters did not magically stop existing, he's still defending. Living a relatively isolated life in a secluded village doesn't distance the idea he's simply not heard of the event, but it's possible his senile act is also becoming increasingly real.
I did a little math. Without knowing Frieren's expected lifespan I can't be 100% certain, but I'd say that 10 years for Frieren would represent approximately 9 months of her comparable lifespan or less
When Himmel met Grandpa Voll, it was clear that it was when he decided not to declare himself to Frieren, fearing the future and at the same time imagining ways not to be forgotten, he and Voll are in similar situations, but inverse. I wonder if Ctaft did not defeat some demon king in the past, according to what we learned, the demon king would be the strongest among the demons, therefore, what Frieren defeated together with the group must not have been the first, and will not be the last
And yet, the situation Himmel finds himself in is totally different, they are not in a relationship and the frieren is someone very distant, yet, instead of giving up, or feeling frustrated, Himmel only showed more kindness
I wish we got more info on what Kraft and Frieren chatted about during these 6 Months. Did he tell her about his exploits? Probably not, since he would have mentioned the second guy they made statues of. Would be cool if Stark went around and told people about Kraft whenever he sees these statues now.
As for taking a week off.... I think waiting a week between each episode as it's broadcast lets you savor them in the head, mind, or soul(?). and the anticipation and so yeah. Take a week off! if not for mental crap then to savor each episode! lol, or not whatevah.
I think our boy Himmel decided then not to pursue Frieren, on the off-chance she became stuck in the past like that dwarf. I'm sure he already realized how difficult that relationship would be, even if he somehow managed to break through the neutron star density. It suddenly became real. I don't know that Frieren would've turned out like Vol. Probably not. Regardless, Himmel still died happy despite not getting everything he wanted.
Frieren didn't tell Old man Voll that they defeated the Demon Lord because she afraid that it might makes his promise to his wife to protect the village from Demon King army lost its meaning (as we already know that mostly look like the only thing keeps him going), even tho it's not 100% sure that would be the case but she learned to pay attention to other people so she doesn't wanna risk it.
Yeah, Old Man Voll losing the memory of how his wife looked and the sound of her voice was sad as well as him thinking Frieren was going off to defeat the Demon King. But him having the dream made it a bit less bittersweet. What will Sein do? The statue of Kraft was cool. Just goes to reinforce Kraft asking what Frieren did before defeating the Demon King.
Apothecary Diaries let freaking go I watched the first 3 episodes on a whim and it became my favorite anime of the year I've rewatched many times so I'm down for another.
How many people today could recognize an historical Roman from their 2000 year old statue? Humans forget history which is why they repeat it. Who can name their Great-Grandparents? EP 16 is the transience of human memory. Himmel will be forgotten as will his statues. But the most important question of today, is what is Water Proof Maschara? Match that with a new Flexie hairstyle, and this world is changing (for the better).
I genuinely think, old man would die peacefully, if Frieren told him, that they already defeated Demon King. Promise to his wife is the only thing that keeps him alive
@@chiranjeevimg5605 i think a lot are just true reactors with heart. I think why we view reactions is just, we want see and share the same feelings when a moment hit. And jay does it just nice and beautiful. Good example the episode 14. Gets me every time, even as a grown man with 36 :D
There is a theory that Sein likes talking about how he wants the love of some idealized 'older woman' because he's actually in the closet with Gorilla Warrior. This also explains why Flamme's ultimate skill didn't work on him when Frieren tried it. I'm not sure I buy this theory, but the flashback in this episode makes me think of it each time.
Everything hitting DIFFERENTLY since episode 14 guys 😭 Omg... Share your thoughts below and I hope you enjoy my conversation before/after the episode 💙
Your convo before/after episode is the best thing. Most reaction channel doesn't do this. Not to mention you are soo freakin beautiful.
Yup, from episode 14 to final episode was awesome
The common consensus about Himmel's expression during his conversation with Voll is about his realisation that Frieren will suffer the same as Voll once he passes. Hence solidifying his decision never to explicitly explain to Frieren his true feelings to her.
Congrats on watching the objectively best anime of all time... until Steel Ball Run gets animated this summer that is.
Congrats on making it halfway through Season One. 😁 I'm re-watching this now, re-documenting the differences between the ongoing manga and the anime (for I lost my file a few weeks ago)... my niece and I are comparing notes. 🥂
It took me a bit of time to realize that Himmel thought of Frieren while talking to Voll. The micro expression on his face is soo subtle and yet telling. I think this is the moment he realized to not go all in and become straight forward with confessing his feelings to Frieren. He did not want for Frieren to become the same as Vоll - clinging to a vow she took to Himmel. It is even in ED's Milet Lyrics - Even without any promises/vow/oath.
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Hell yeah. I love this scene so much. I have nothing but praises to Madhouse. We know all the amazing sakuga in this show, but I love how they almost gave more attention to these small moments. The scene you're describing is much simple in the manga. This is not a slight to the manga but is instead a praise to the production of this anime on how they elevated small moments that most would miss in their first watch but elevate the whole scene exponentially once you notice it. EDIT: Holy shit I just noticed how poetic that was since treasuring the small insignificant details during your 2nd adventure is Frieren's whole theme.
Theres so many moments in flashbacks where himmel makes a really subtle facial expression, absolutely destroys me every time
@@Jude-yk9uc Dude, even in Ep 2 when we see Frieren using the flower spell with the Heroes' party, Heiter and Eisen looked so amazed because they're seeing it for the first time, but Himmel's expression is subtle, more "This spell takes me back, it's what made me adore her so much" type of face.
Old Man Voll was finally actually starting to lose his memory, and the "senile act" was becoming less of an act. He had forgotten that the Demon King was already defeated. Frieren realized that while talking to him.
A little detail about this chapter. Frieren always says "See you later", but she says "Goodbye" to Old Man Voll.
I think Frieren really isn't sure if she will ever see Old Man Voll again, so she specifically says "Goodbye" to her old friend.
@@jesuschavero1665 aiya, pls don't give leads or spoilers. It will ruin someone's first time watching experience
@@susbedo9258 ok, I edited the message to delete the spoilery part of it
@@jesuschavero1665 thanks!!! 😀😃🙂
what frieren said to Voll was "Ja ne" (じゃあね), which is like "see ya", very casual.
So I don't think it implies she is not sure if she'll see Voll again.
The other phrase, "Meta ne" is indeed closer to "see you later", with a stronger hint of seeing you again
It is strange, but true. My mother died when I was a teenager, and without looking at photos or videos, it is hard for me to remember her face or her voice.
However, the love that she gave me will stay with me with the rest of my life. Her teachings have made me who I am now.
With time, you end up forgetting details about long gone love ones, but what remains is the true essence of their memory to you.
It was a big shock when my grandfather didn't remember me.
That's why I got such a so sad feeling from the Old Man Voll.
@@조민수-x5o I'm sorry that you had to deal with this 😔 😢
It was sad forme too. My grandfather couldn't remember my face, but when i told him my name he just said "Oh, i have a grandkid with that same name, he's chubby and about this tall(putting his hand to his waist height). Everytime dementia comes up i tear up a little.
@@Geronmy One of the most beautiful songs regarding dementia I've heard is "New to me" by the Lemon Twigs. Check it out.
Yeah, the Old Man Voll chapter hits very hard for anyone who has known someone with dementia or other memory loss.
So glad to hear you will be reacting to The Apothecary Diaries, that show together with Frieren made the last winter season one of my favorite anime seasons of all times
Apothecary Diaries is really good also. I'm pretty sure FlexieJay will like it.
Yep! Fully agree. Flexie will not be sorry, The Apothecary Diaries is very exceptional as a story and a mystery.
No way, Apothecary Diaries after Frieren? From one best female MC to another best female MC? That's a big YESSS.
It is really good? Gonna watch it later
@@PortalPedia YES, please do give it a try :)
@@PortalPedia it's a totally different setting from Frieren, which is Fantasy. Apocathery Diaries in a nutshell is Sherlocks Holmes x Gregory House in the form of a fiesty petite girl who is also caught in the cross-fires of warring concubines in China's Forbidden cities.
@@PortalPediaif you liked frieren you my like it as well, it has good animation, have to say it might not be the taste for everyone but I do really like it and I would recommend it
Going from peak to also peak
One of the coolest things about this show is how frequently it reveals new information that lets you put previous information in context and makes you rethink everything you've seen, and yet it never makes you feel like it was withholding that additional information from you. That information just wasn't relevant before, and now it is.
I love this series so much. Did you know that the show got so popular In Japan that the phrase "勇者ヒンメルならそうした" ("That's what Himmel the Hero would have done") reached the mainstream culture and is now used in everyday interactions, when it comes down to being kind?
When it hits you that Voll and his wife are parallel of Frieren and Himmel's relationship. :^) Always make sure to remember your loved ones.
Kraft statue was built of stone not bronze, which means he's older than the bronze age atleast 😅
@@randomverse1501 That's a good point, although the bronze-age Greeks made stone statues, because it was harder to make that much bronze.
Then how did he have a sword?
9:42 Frieren just realised he wasn't joking about not being able to remember his wife's memories.
Apothecary diaries is a good replacement, I approve
The first half of this episode might be my favorite part of the anime
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and analysis. I thought you were spot on this episode. For me the most painful part of this episode was the theme of memory loss - Voll knows he is defending the village that his wife loved, even if the townsfolk have no idea why he's doing it and he himself can't even remember. Likewise, the population at large has forgotten about Kraft and his righteous trumiphs, but they get to live in a world he saved. He's the sole carrier of those historic memories and bringing them into the future, just like how Frieren might be the last one on her end way into the future, perhaps in another thousand years. The most heartbreaking part is that Kraft had a chance to share his righteous trimuphs so that it wouldn't be so cruel for no one to remember their deeds, only for Frieren to pass. That, combined with Kraft's class change from warrior to monk, makes him one of the most interesting and tragic characters we have met so far. He seems way older than Frieren, and seems to have processed his memory and come to peace with how his companion changed him, and might have recognized that Frieren was in a similar process - she also had a good friend in Heiter who praised him down here- which may imply that his priest friend was similar only for him to not understand until later when he convered into a monk and became a goddess believer.
Every episode with a Himmel flashback is bound to make me cry. Also, I can’t wait to learn more about Kraft! What did he save the world from? Who was the priest helping him?
My personal hope for Sein’s friend is that he fell in love, settled down somewhere and started a family. And that is why he was never able to travel back to journey with Sein.
loved Voll's segment, it's one of my favourite short stories, this anime does a great job at creating good storytelling with just a few minutes of screen time.
Good thing is Frieren has immaculate memory, i guess elves brain need to remember tens of thousand of years, since Frieren is still young she remembers all her life easily.
Even her memories of Flamme are crystal clear.
Himmel must have seen the future of Frieren in the Old Man Voll.
It made me so sad. 😭😭😭
I LOVE Frieren...but I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY excited for Apothecary Diaries.
I love the way they capture photos in this world. They touched on it a little back in episode 2, with Fern and her parents. (And maybe one other time that I can't remember for sure?)
But it's so cool that they use magic for it. In a world without things like cameras. The little shimmer surrounding the photo makes me think of the world of Harry Potter, with how photos there feel so alive. You almost expect to see the photo of Gorilla and Sein having them laughing together while posing for the shot. It's brilliant.
Amazing reaction. You caught pretty much every implication of the flashbacks in episodes 14 and 16 on past episodes even to the one all the way back in episode 5 about not forgetting Himmel and not leaving Frieren alone. One of the only reactors to do so on first watch.
I love this ep so much. Because he loves his wife so much, even he doesn't remember her. That's why I'm getting emotional. This is real love. Because he promised his wife and protecting his wife's hometown. and when he talked with frieren he dreamed about her😭😭😭. And himmel understood his decision....
Kraft did say that everyone that knew of his good deeds is long dead.
To be so old that the world doesn't even know who you were. And those statues are made of pure stone. So, he is old old.
9:48-> I got chills all over my body
You are going to love The Apothecary Diaries.
Delicouice in dungen is also really good
I adore Old Man Voll. I lost count of the number of times I have seen this episode somewhere around 30, and it still gets me in the feels every time.
2:45 "in case i cry" she said... better do so every Frieren episode 😂
9:28 this reaction broke my heart, it was plain and simple fear of forgetting
Talking about people you've lost or met a long time ago, keeps their memories alive.
The whole episode is about rememberence - via memories, statues or wierd names which are so striking that its not easy to forget.
Actually Frieren could be also a Game. Probably this is one of the reasons why this Anime hit so good. It bring subtile a lot Gaming culture from old games and classics into a anime. Or reverse because i don't know who actually started this. (for example that priest have a high resistance against dark magic and so on). It could be possible that the same Mage also do a Photo with Fern and her Family, cause it fit the time that happend. For my opinion, this Episode is the point were it is obviously the point you can sense that Frieren also is positively changed. Memories beside time is the most precious thing a human can have.
Most of the Japanese Western high fantasy genre is based in things like Sword World and Dragon Quest, and the Sword World ttrpg was made because TSR didn't like that someone was making money off of their D&D campaign in Japan, and Dragon Quest was basically Japan's console gaming answer to the madly popular PC gaming franchises Wizardry and Ultima, both of which trace their lineage back to when people tried to translate D&D into "computer gaming". So yes! Frieren is definitely of a lineage, considering Dragon Quest is almost compulsory education for Japanese gamers growing up lol
Why do I happy cry and sad cry and just plain cry every time I watch this show. Sometimes I just sit in bed for some time afterwards and remember all the wonderful things that have happened to me throughout my life, be they small flashes or momentous occasions, and I'm so thankful that show exists to remind me to stop and smell the roses, from time to time.
i like to think old man voll has alzheimer and his memories slowly fading away before his death. voll-oji said that they will carry the memories of himmel party to the future, but "memory" is an abstract thing. like people would remember flamme the mage, no one actually remember her appearance except two people (as of now). so himmel wanted to make statues of himself to accompany frieren into the future, so that she wont be lonely. he wanted to make him not just as abstract memory, but also to put himself tangible-- unfading. [edited after listening to discussion: voll AND flamme are the reasons why himmel wanted his statues made]
Dementia is super scary and sad. Remembering the days before my father died, forgetting who we are is so depressing.
Girl you will love Apothecary Diaries
Frieren, Apothecary Diaries and Delicious in Dungeon made last winter season so good
I can agree on this. Seen all three.
people forget when they get old,and this is probably the same for dwarves.
I may also forget the beautiful tears you shed in episode14.
But the memory of a beautiful woman crying in a touching scene will remain.
The first half of the episode is my favorite part of the series. I love Old Man Voll. And I cried my eyes out when he said he can't remember her. My God...
Two things to note here. First is the fact that Kraft is ancient as hell. Many viewers didn't understand that fact when Kraft said that Frieren is young but the series establishes this in this episode as an undeniable truth using a very simple way to do so. The statues. All the statues that Frieren and her companions had are bronze statues. That is because bronze was much easier to use and work with in this era, in real life bronze was used for sculpture from the 15th century AD if I'm not mistaken. In ancient Greece and Rome from 6th century BC up until the 10th century AD the material that was widely used in sculpture was marble. But the statues of Kraft and his companion was stone. Stone statues and figurines were created in the earliest known civilizations such as the Egyptians. That means from 5000 BC to 1000 BC. And that there tells us that when Kraft said that no one lives that remembers his righteous battles and triumphs, he really means it.
And this is one of the clues that gives credence to the theory that Kraft was the ancient hero that used the Hero's Sword to defeat a Morgoth level threat back in the Age of Mythology as I mentioned in a previous comment in episode 12, and returned it to the stone after the end of his battle. Because if you see in the statue he is holding a sword that seems to be a little too similar to the Sword on the Stone. And Kraft is not carrying a sword with him right now. And he is a monk. Monks fight using martial arts, not weapons. So why does he carry a sword? The answer is because he needed to. And this theory gets even more convincing because Kraft says that he believes in the Goddess wholeheartedly. The reason he believes in her might be because he lived in the Age of Mythology, the only Age that the Goddess revealed herself to the races of the World, and he used the Sword which was Blessed by the Goddess to become the Hero's Sword in order to defeat the ancient evil that threatened to destroy the world.
The second thing to note is a misconception that many had about Old man Voll. Voll is starting to forget naturally. He is old and his mind has started to fail. Frieren is shaken from this because she has lived a secluded life and has never been confronted with the fact that the mortal races might forget things. The Elves of this setting are Tolkienian Elves, meaning that they are practically immortal and have perfect memories. They do not forget anything and can preserve their memories forever. Frieren remembers everything, to her a memory of what she ate yesterday is the same with a memory of fighting over a scroll with Flamme 1000 years ago. That is why she was so shaken with Voll forgetting that they had already defeated the Demon King. Because she understood that her companions would not always remember her if she didn't keep in touch regularly. She never really understood the need to be around everyone because she never forgets anything, so even if she left for 10 years she would still remember everyone and their habits and could reconnect quite easily after that time without any problems. But that is not so for the mortal races. If we up and leave for 10 years and come back to our old town, even if we meet our old friends again, ten years have past, we are different people, with different lives and experiences and lives. And we might have forgotten a lot of the things that connected us in the past. Our memories are not perfect and our connection to the people around us need to be reinforced constantly so that those friendships and connections to continue to exist. Frieren for the first time understood that when she left, she almost made certain that Eisen, Heiter and Himmel would forget her. The very fact that they didn't, that they still remembered her and cherished her still even after she abandoned them for almost 50 years without a single contact is a miracle and only now she understood and appreciated it.
We have finally arrived to this episode, there's a bunch of theories revolving around what Himmel was thinking or feeling, tho we all agree was Frieren, here is my theory and why it seems that it hit me harder, when he was talking to Voll i immediately associated his situation with frieren, how it was very similar but some how opposite, how? In Voll's case he is the long living being, and his wife the human, in Himmel he is the human and frieren the long living being, Himmel seen how much voll suffer not just for the lost of memory but also her, maybe is why he never confessed his love to frieren, and chose to be the one who suffer instead of her, cause thats just what Himmel the hero would do, and yet he didn't want her to feel alone nor to forget his face, cause he knew that she will roam the same places they oncebroam together, so he wanted her to remember him with a smile on her face, and not just a blurry memory, but that's just my take one this, and that's why it hits ao hard for me, now i too think of them when I look to the sky.
The Ending mocking me since epsiode one with "and you all right?" ... how dare they
What's going to happen next? Could it be another beautiful but also poignant episode? Who knows?
Apothecary after Frieren? It's like the season never ended because I keep watching people watch these shows lmao
real
Crystal clear memory and a continued sharpness of mind is another impressive aspect of Elvish immortality. I'm partial to the idea of mind magics being involved, but however it functions, the Elves we've met show no cognitive decline, which is nearly a super power itself alongside the lifespan.
WAIT! THE TWO BEST GIRLS ONE AFTER THE OTHER IN THE CHANNEL? LET'S GOOO
@8:50 I think Himmel enjoyed making statues of the party because they'd be around long he died, so no matter what Frieren could always see them all
I have been originally suspecting Himmel loving Frieren since that episode at the beginning where the straw-har kid flicks up her skirt and then Himmel lamenting that the kid saw sth that he always wanted to see. Before episode 14 that was basically also confirmed to me by him faintibg when she blew him a kiss. He was also always so caring, especially towards her. Love how all these hints were just piling across the episodes up until episode 14 finally confirming it for good (especially noticable on a rewatch).
7:45 I also like that Himmel knew the entire time that his relationship with her would not really work out, cause of their different lifespans and her noticing her love for him just to slowly for him to experience it in his lifetime. But he was at peace and ok with that and just loved her unconditionally and even built statues of him and the others so that she wouldn't be alone when they're all gone. :'-)
Something I noticed about Goddess magic was that the users all have some kind of holy book they use with the magic. I think it's a requirement to use that magic, like mages who use staves.
Also, the next episode has a new intro and different outro so keep an eye out for that. The intro is hands down my favorite song out of 2024.
That part where they're leaving Old man Voll wrecks me for some reason. Hes just a sweet old dwarf
notice how Frieren says "take care" as if to not see again, cause she expects him to die, but when he tells her, he remembers... Frieren changes it to "see you" 😭
The reason it seems like episodes are split into two is because usually Frieren episodes are adapting two different chapters from the manga.
I haven't read volume 11 yet, but so far the story keeps being amazing and emotional while being so simple somehow. Season 2 will be great, the anime has done an amazing job so far 😊
I'm guessing that the time of Kraft's hero-ing might have been the equivalent of the Babylonian or even Sumerian age. When Frieren was Flamme's apprentice, it looked to be Greco-Roman equivalent times, and I would think that she would have recognized Kraft's name if he was a big hero at the time. And, if they saved the world, it would have to have been before the Demon King's rise, otherwise the Demon King would have been what they would have needed to save it from. There's also a clue in the fact that it was Kraft and a priest in their partnership, and no mage, because it was before the time of any human mages.
Accurate
To think in 1200yrs this was the first time freien probabley even thought of the concept of forgetting things that were dear to her😢😢
Apothecary Diaries isn't as deep as Frieren, but it's very fun and interesting. Knowing you, you will LOVE the visual styles and the audio.
If you like frieren, you will love "Violet Evergarden"
that is one hell of a recommendation lmao
Old Man Voll defending a village for 400 years when the average total life expectancy of dwarves is only 300 years dictates his memories would obviously be withered through time. It would make sense he forgot the demon lord's demise, but truthfully, despite it all, he still protects his village. The fall of the demon lord has not changed anything for him as monsters did not magically stop existing, he's still defending. Living a relatively isolated life in a secluded village doesn't distance the idea he's simply not heard of the event, but it's possible his senile act is also becoming increasingly real.
Вау как же ты круто выглядишь ) Фрирен мне даёт пережить эмоции которые в жизни были.
I did a little math. Without knowing Frieren's expected lifespan I can't be 100% certain, but I'd say that 10 years for Frieren would represent approximately 9 months of her comparable lifespan or less
Even the manga hasn't caught up to us figuring out what is up with Gorilla Warrior, but I definitely have a theory...
When Himmel met Grandpa Voll, it was clear that it was when he decided not to declare himself to Frieren, fearing the future and at the same time imagining ways not to be forgotten, he and Voll are in similar situations, but inverse. I wonder if Ctaft did not defeat some demon king in the past, according to what we learned, the demon king would be the strongest among the demons, therefore, what Frieren defeated together with the group must not have been the first, and will not be the last
And yet, the situation Himmel finds himself in is totally different, they are not in a relationship and the frieren is someone very distant, yet, instead of giving up, or feeling frustrated, Himmel only showed more kindness
I wish we got more info on what Kraft and Frieren chatted about during these 6 Months. Did he tell her about his exploits? Probably not, since he would have mentioned the second guy they made statues of. Would be cool if Stark went around and told people about Kraft whenever he sees these statues now.
As for taking a week off.... I think waiting a week between each episode as it's broadcast lets you savor them in the head, mind, or soul(?). and the anticipation and so yeah. Take a week off! if not for mental crap then to savor each episode! lol, or not whatevah.
My favorite episode
I think our boy Himmel decided then not to pursue Frieren, on the off-chance she became stuck in the past like that dwarf. I'm sure he already realized how difficult that relationship would be, even if he somehow managed to break through the neutron star density. It suddenly became real.
I don't know that Frieren would've turned out like Vol. Probably not. Regardless, Himmel still died happy despite not getting everything he wanted.
Frieren didn't tell Old man Voll that they defeated the Demon Lord because she afraid that it might makes his promise to his wife to protect the village from Demon King army lost its meaning (as we already know that mostly look like the only thing keeps him going), even tho it's not 100% sure that would be the case but she learned to pay attention to other people so she doesn't wanna risk it.
Thank you for sharing 😊
Yeah, Old Man Voll losing the memory of how his wife looked and the sound of her voice was sad as well as him thinking Frieren was going off to defeat the Demon King. But him having the dream made it a bit less bittersweet. What will Sein do? The statue of Kraft was cool. Just goes to reinforce Kraft asking what Frieren did before defeating the Demon King.
Absolutely love this episode as a manga reader
Apothecary Diaries let freaking go I watched the first 3 episodes on a whim and it became my favorite anime of the year I've rewatched many times so I'm down for another.
This episode is so sad. Not only we learn she had a long last friend but we learn he is about to die.
So many self-proclaimed titles in this series. The Legendary Mage Flamma called herself that as well; and it stuck.
MaoMao is cominggg soon
How many people today could recognize an historical Roman from their 2000 year old statue? Humans forget history which is why they repeat it. Who can name their Great-Grandparents? EP 16 is the transience of human memory. Himmel will be forgotten as will his statues. But the most important question of today, is what is Water Proof Maschara? Match that with a new Flexie hairstyle, and this world is changing (for the better).
When people get really old, memory is just a mess to them, it makes me really saddd...
4:23 🥹 I’m already tearing up … we boomers feel our inaction in spades ♠️ 🤔 ironically.
3:16 APOTHECARY DIARIES MENTIONED
6:22 remember that a decade is how long she spent with Himmel. Not very long at all to her.
Imagine keeping the same hair style for so long that the descendants of people who built a statue of you no longer remember who the statue is for.
I genuinely think, old man would die peacefully, if Frieren told him, that they already defeated Demon King. Promise to his wife is the only thing that keeps him alive
Apothecary Diaries after Frieren? One Punch Man and Spy X Family? We are absolutely being spoiled rotten.
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two more episodes and we will get Ubel
I liked APothecary Diaries and watched the first few episodes, but I think it started to fall off, in my opinion. But I might rewatch it with you.
Hey Flexie, You look like Karen from Daredevil series 😅❤
Solo leveling new trailer.❤
Yay I have something for on the way to work now hahaha
Almost 81k wtf are you fucking blessed by god
Just having fun watching her
@@fjoergyn She is a true reactor by heart i think
@@chiranjeevimg5605 i think a lot are just true reactors with heart. I think why we view reactions is just, we want see and share the same feelings when a moment hit. And jay does it just nice and beautiful. Good example the episode 14. Gets me every time, even as a grown man with 36 :D
She is a great reactor, and she will soon reach 100k with the series she pick.
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I love this episode
20k more subs till one piece!
Hope after this series you can try react Violet Evergarden ❤
It's an old anime, but the animation will surprise you.
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Naruto please
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There is a theory that Sein likes talking about how he wants the love of some idealized 'older woman' because he's actually in the closet with Gorilla Warrior. This also explains why Flamme's ultimate skill didn't work on him when Frieren tried it.
I'm not sure I buy this theory, but the flashback in this episode makes me think of it each time.
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Hard luck bro
it was painful to hear you say '[show] in a couple months' people who watch Fraieren one episode a week are just torturing me.
@@kiryukaimemorial127 Think of watching it when it was first airing, we had to wait a week between episodes because there was no choice.
To be fair, she does put out more than one a week.