Lessons from the North! Build Show in Canada - EP
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2019
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In this special Canadian Build Show, I headed up to Vancouver BC to tour some High Performance Builds. You’ll see some crazy thick insulation details, a pre-heater that uses a sewer line to heat up near freezing incoming water, and some great Passive House details.
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“Vancouver is a cold climate”
Edmonton says “Hold my beer!”
The remainder of Canada says 'hold my beer'.
There's a guy on UA-cam that shows how to frame in -30 weather... The crazy framer is his handle I think
@@davidbortolin7377 yeah dude - he's especially wild, because he does literally everything on his own. including all the really strenuous, difficult parts of framing a custom home.
but that's what winter is like in the majority of canada - if not shittier. lots of wind, cold, and snow.
fuck, I hate working outside in the winter.
Or even Dawson city :P
In Edmonton CA, They use Beer heaters to keep their beer from freezing solid :)
Vancouver is like the tropical spot of Canada
Woke up this morning in MN AND IT WAS -32 windchill...
Incorrect. The Oakanagan is!
@@mountainvalleysunshine7228 incorrect, it's like the desert, you need ocean to be the tropics.
@@powshredder3716 - Pretty sure Vancouver's on the ocean. Hang on, let me look out the window. Yep, it's on the ocean.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH if you could read , I wasn't responding to you.
Matt I'd love to see a video of guys actually doing the install on exterior insulation. All the hardware and techniques used.
All the manufacturers have install vid on youtube
@@sparksmcgee6641 Good point but those are inherently less objective, promoting brand products as much as instructing.
as a Canadian I appreciate the visit, it's nice to see the difference in requirements in a cold climate and in the Canadian code.
The north 🤣🤣 Would love to see some real cold weather builds in Canada.
It would be nice for Matt to have an episode to discuss the BC leaky condo crisis. It's not apparent to me what remedies were made to the building code, and why Washington state seemed to avoid the same fate.
@@status101-danielho6 Its because we didnt use rain screen and the leaky.... say stucco for example let water in threw cracks made overtime. and because the water had no where to go , it got absorbed the in the plywood exterior sheeting rotted and was a major issue affecting all buildings.
the fix was to install rain screen, giving any water a 1/2" gap to run down and escape, and any water that made it threw your exterior makes it way to this 1/2" gap, then will run down until it hits the newly installed flashing in between floors on the exterior to shed all water.
In short. Rain screen is the answer
@@status101-danielho6 now that ive watched the video a bit, he goes over rain screen at 32:00. that is our fix to leaky condos. #ticketed vancouver carpenter, work with people who fixed the leaky condos.
I believe Jordan Smith Matt's old employee is in north Texas and I believe he has almost the same temps as this " cold and cold". I would guess any decently built home in that climate could be heated with a blow dryer.
This is actually up to a pretty high standard.
Great video. One of my favourites. Would like to see colder climates like Ontario, Alberta, Minnesota, etc. Although these Vancouver builds look like they’re ready for the ice age.
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Yay Canada!!! But I would love for you to come to the prairies, totally different climate
@Matt Risinger: Five years ago I was working as a framer helper in Edmonton. We would work down to -13F because that is the temperature at which winter air tool oil stops working. Framing in Vancouver is worse! It's not always freezing, but you get rained on all day so you're more likely to be chattering.
We are just south of the Border. Glad to see ya up this way.
Wet & Cold...Welcome Matt!
I like a lot visiting job sites when traveling. Great segment - Matt Risinger abroad!
Welcome to Russia! (Komi or Arhangelsk)
Thanks for heading north Matt!
Love this video, Matt. So much experience from Marcel and also knowledge from you. You make these complicated insulating concepts easier to understand for us Americans who are trying to optimize our builds. Cheers.
More cold weather shows! Would love to see one on snow loads. Please head to a ski town soon for a show. Truckee, Ca Vail, Co Aspen, Co etc
@ 33:43 "Man that's ugly." To you maybe. I like it. It's a very clean, airy look. I'm sure the homeowners enjoy it tremendously. Vancouver can get a lot of snow and ice in winter and these homeowners never have to shovel their walk or worry about slipping and falling.
That made me chuckle and then say, why would you actually put that part on the Internet? 😄
Thank you for this episode! Although details from Texas are interesting this environment matches what I'm up against here in Montana. Please stay up here in the north!
Vancouver is such a beautiful city and area. I have also been to Vancouver Island to Butchart Gardens and I would go again in a heart beat.
Love your videos and how you keep up with the advancements in materials and building standards.
These guys need a geography lesson, they are in the warmest place in Canada and seldom gets below -10 . They are in Vancouver because that's where the most expensive homes are...and they have plenty of dough
You're right. However, BC is going through a major transition in energy and building codes. What may seem like overkill right now will be part of the standard in the near future.
It's not overkill that's the problem. It's Vancouver and Victoria are the exception in Canada not the norm. 0 F is common as a high and windy gusts to 50 mph. Vancouver heating may be a small gas fire place. In Ottawa a 1400 sq foot house needs 40,000 to 50,000 BTU blower furnace.
Vancouvers a very warm climate by Canadian standards, I would say the larger concern in Vancouver is humidity. I was in Vancouver in February a few years ago and at -7 you can wear a hoodie and be warm!
-7 is a cold day too! usually max of -2.
Yep, that's why a lot of insulation is going on the exterior. Preventing moisture penetration as much as possible
I love those roof systems.
The house ties in so beautifully with the neighborhood!
This is on Trafalgar St and 12th ave, Vancouver, BC
I did a cedar reroof just 4 roofs north. Was an amazing job, this is an amazing r value home
Thanks Matt, this is a killer video. And very helpful for us cold climate people.
Great jobsite visits - really interesting. Vancouver prices are stratospheric so can afford to go all out.
Yep, it is pretty pricey. The last time a house sold for under a million was in '09.
Fantastic video! I love the cold weather stuff.
Magnetic tiles, BRILLIANT .
Meanwhile I'm sitting in a 100 year old house in Edmonton, -30/-40 at times, with 2" of fiberglass insulation and a vapour barrier so thin it's pretty much useless. Looking at the insulation on those houses in Vancouver where it barely freezes thinking, dam, that'd be nice..
look at you mr fancy with your 2" of fiberglass.... All I got is a sheet of tar/foil paper, a 1/2" air gap, and 3/4" plasterboard in behind 8" concrete block with a brick facia.. And I think my attic insulation is R25ish at best.... effing 60's homes
@@JSLEnterprises I feel you man, my house is the same. I'm probably going to have cellulose blown into the wall cavities in the future.
Though my cinder block wall isn't filled with concrete so I have quite a lot of trapped air that keeps the inside temperature a bit more stable. Air leaks are my main loss right now but as we renovate I'm spray foaming everything.
@@JSLEnterprises - It’s remarkable that, with the ~55 yrs or so families have turned over in that house (resales or inter-generational), that no one took on some inexpensive projects to keep the heat in, eg, in attic, radiant barrier on risers, added blown-in insulation on top of the R-25; or room-by-room added insulation &/or radiant/vapor barrier on the inside of your exterior walls.
If nothing’s been done, and if (even w/ your fantastic wood stove) you close off half your house in the cold months, after dealing w/ your attic, you could also spring for a roll of 1/4” Aerogel insulation to put on the existing finished inside of your exterior walls, covered by a plastic vapor barrier, 1x2 furring strips & your new drywall. For existing drywall, you’ll go thru ~2” to hit wood, so use 2-3/4” drywall screws.
But 1st, remove a small patch of your existing wall to decide whether the space betw that wall & the concrete block justifies using spray foam there.
As an upgrade, instead of just a vapor barrier, install a impermeable radiant barrier (think Mylar, shiny-side facing room). Your 1x2 furring strips create the air-gap needed for a radiant barrier to work.
If you’re not going to own the property long enuf to justify the Aerogel cost, skip it & do everything else.
Either way, you’ll need to decide options for insulation at the ends of interior walls that T into ext. walls (floors/ceilings too), outlets & around exterior windows.
Down the road, you may decide that, for example, there are small windows on the North side (not required by code) that leak heat but not much light (esp in the short months around 12/21). Closed off & insulated, the remaining inside space can be framed out as a (mostly) recessed shelving unit.
Betw YT, Google, your version of Home Depot, & folks you know, there’s no Q about these projects you can’t get the answer to.
I hear yea. I’m sure the snow on my roof offers more insulation than the 4 inches of wool they put in like 50 years ago which has all compressed and is basically useless.
Thanks for all the great info Matt !!!
Cool to see some new products. Great video Matt.
Guess he’s never been to Canada in summer, it gets pretty hot in places. So they have extreme temp changes. Interested in how they handle it 👍
Matt: Excellent video. +10 on the long video and thanks to your camera & video editing people. Hope you all have a wonderful holiday!
Not sure if I would want my potable water passing through a heat exchanger for a waste pipe. Picking up pennies in front a a steam roller comes to mind.
exilarating the details on the roof. many thanks!!!
One of the best videos yet.
Nice to see Matt in my town! Welcome!
Hi Matt great job doing what your doing thank you.
It's good to see a rare video of a well thought out building construction being delivered. Marcel clearly knows his stuff.
Great content thank you for all the info.
That is a lot of insulation for relatively warm Vancouver, which is only slightly cooler than Seattle.
Yeah. The majority of houses in the area have no where near that much r value and are just fine 10 months a year. The coldest 2 months? Spend an extra couple hundred on heating
@@jtmcanada234 ICF or SIP would seem WAY simpler, Especially seeing as you can get in just about any R value you want from the factory.
@@davez2989 there are issues with SIPs and in cold climates. You wouldn't make these numbers with ICF.
It's not about cold as much as being passive and not needing to use much energy to keep the building at a constant temperature.
@@DavePreissl Yeah I get the idea of being passive but What issues are you referring to in SIP and ICF? Wont make the numbers?? The wall is literally solid, zero thermal bridging and air leakage, sure yours is close as it's layered but you can order SIP Thicker from the factory and ICF can also have extra thick insulation in the blocks if you want it. From a labor point of view on building... and costs... sips literally are done in a day or 2 on site as they are built in a factory. ICF are easy to build once poured is done and insulated in 1 pass.
I live in a ICF home with in floor heating in Seattle it's a nice 74 in my home 24/7 and my heat bill is about $50-$75 on NG depending on temp outside and it's shut off by mid March until late November, I only need heat a few months.
Small party and the room heats up from humans being inside.
Unfortunately the windows and doors selected weren't anything special but the ROI to just replace them to save on NG bill would be measured in decades VS years.
Don't get me wrong I like your build but looking at all the steps involved, I go WOW very labor intensive and wonder if something simpler wouldn't have the same net outcome and in a mild climate such as Vancouver your ROI is never going to happen when measuring your heating bill so the benefit is Comfort, uniqueness, sound suppression.
thank you so much for this vid. really helpful for my cold climate build.
Great video guys!
Love the longer videos.
thats cool! would probably work well where it gets cold too
Awesome, awesome video!
Neat stuff! Look forward to more. Wish lav mics were used though, would've helped when guests turned away from cam or when there was loud background noise.
A CPL filter would've also been useful for the camera operator when the camera was being inundated with light from outside in some shots.
Vancouver is not that cold. Consider more interior places where it is -40C on the outside and +20C on the inside. The freezing point for humidity is 1/3 of the way through the insulation from the inside to the outside. You really don't want any moisture to get into the insulation and freeze.
i like your long videos thanx.
Good fricken work boys. real toight!
Do a feature in Winnipeg! Much, much colder in winter, much much hotter in summer, plus a clay soil that is one of the most unfriendly to building soils that exist.
@14:55 ?
Look at the boss man no safety harness.
you got big ones.
Lol LOVE it.
Love these Build vid bc they get into the nuts & bolts of better build systems
Love it Matt
Great content Matt!
I have bee waiting for you to do more cold climate framing/ insulation videos. Thanks!
This is such a cool build
many thanksm this one was really a matter degree in building
This is easily the most entertaining show for me on youtube
and point out that electrician! nice angles and dead straight wires. workmanship!!!!
Best video yet! Love the Canadian building science!
Matt, I loved this video, this maybe the best video, to date, I have seen from you, there is just so much detail involved. And of course, I am from the north, LOL. I am from, Northeastern Pennsylvania, and its so nice to see you throw in some cold weather building techniques. I was wondering, could you add some sort of animated scale model, to show what you and your builder friend(on the 2nd house example in the video) mean about the offset, and the sagging, and other problems associated with the use of the Roxul comfort board, when using such thicknesses. I have a small row-home here in PA and I want to do the front and back of my house (row homes don't have sides, LOL) with the comfort board at least 6 inches and then the cement hardie siding but I want to make sure I do the venting and screening correctly. Each floor is literally only 96 raw sq/ft.(meaning the door and window opening are not cut out of that 12'x8' space). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. i love your videos either way please keep up the good work and show a few more while your up there.
thanks,
Ron
Very very interesting & informative - I need to watch this video 5 or 10 more times - I am retrofitting my 1970’s house room by room with rock wool & double walls. Trying to decide if I should beef up shear strength by adding 3/8” plywood between the 1st & 2nd stud bay. Really impressed by the rock wool - so many benefits
Sounds like a middle layer might complicate vapour sealing, without adding much that exterior sheathing wouldn't do.
I think you would be better off adding exterior insulation instead of doing double wall framing. You may run into a moisture problem since its likely the construction has a lot of locations for air leakage.
You get a lot more bang for your buck with exterior insulation.
I like that incoming water warmer using the waste water pipe. Useful for people on well water so the pipes don't drip in the summer time.
Sure if you accept the idea that your poop is warming the water your drinking and washing with.
Hasler for the win.
Thanks, Bruce!
"lessons from the North" lol in one of the most warm parts of Canada
Cool project !
I recently installed the QBlue QB1-16 heat exchanger pipe for the shower which is 168cm long and brought cold water up from 14c to 29c with a 35c shower temperature and a 6l/min shower head.
Those things are amazing. In my install it only works for the shower drain, it's warm in about 3 minutes.
Saves you about 25% on amount of warm water used from the boiler.
This was my favorite of Matt Risinger's videos. I've been binge watching house technology videos of late and I really liked the fact that so many of the new ideas were incorporated into these buildings by people that seemed like main stream builders. I also appreciated the give and take between the builders and Matt. Well informed people discussing different approaches, very nice.
Perhaps I misunderstood, but it seemed like Matt was unfamiliar with the idea of what I've seen called dry wells. They seem to be a code requirement in Massachusetts because they are trying to reduce storm water surges that overwhelm their storm water systems so they require large dry wells in new houses to reduce the amount of storm runoff coming from houses. The purpose here seemed to be a little different. It seemed like they were designed to protect the home in the event that the storm drain system was overwhelmed.
On Rockwool: It seems better in every way than fiberglass batts except it costs a lot more. One of the things that I like about it is in fire risk areas it seems that a house skinned with this stuff would have enormous fire resistance.
Rockwool is cheaper in Canada, maybe 10% more than fiberglas. Hopefully, the price will come down in the usa as well with the new factory.
Cities all over the world are trying to cope with storm runoff surges - the warming climate is leading to more frequent torrential downpours. Because it’s crazy expensive to upgrade storm sewer systems to handle events that only happen once or twice a decade, look for building codes that require some sort of storm water cache to be added to most properties, something that could hold a 5 minute downpour’s worth of water on the property and then slowly release it into the drainage system.
I think you’re also going to see a lot more in the way of green roofs capable of absorbing storm water, and the elimination of traditional concrete hardscapes in favor of surfaces that are permeable to rainwater for things like paths, plazas, driveways and so on.
@@sunspot42 Thanks for the response. It seems like green roofs are more common in the UK than in the US based on the Grand Designs TV shows I've seen. I was somewhat familiar with what you said in your post. I think the ideas people are coming up with to solve the problems you mentioned are interesting.
@@pouetance I looked around a bit after your post. With regard to batts it seemed like what you said applies to the US as well. I was wrong about the large price difference. I had chosen Roxul a few years ago for a small apartment renovation and I just had a memory that Roxul was a lot more. It seems not to be. I also took a look at the Roxul board insulation versus foam board insulation. It seemed like Roxul was much more expensive there but I might have been comparing oranges and apples without realizing it.
@@sunspot42 Vancouver is actually bringing in new code changes that water must be dealt with on site, so the hope is to eliminate the "storm sewer" system over the next couple of decades. Green roof systems will likely be a big piece of the puzzle, along with green wall systems.
26:10 resilient channel is installed upside down.
They most definitely are. I really hope they sort that out or it's just wasted money.
And let's hope they also know their drywall screws need to be set into the strips in the cavities and not on the studs.
High performances homes eh
Those of us from the cold part of Canada wear shorts in Vancouver in the winter.
Thanks for the cold weather show today, Matt. Being in the mtns in CO, I love to see about colder climates and how they (we) handle condensation, ice, and get insane R values. I'm thinking of retrofitting some Zip-R onto my existing house when time comes to re-do the cladding and windows.
Except on average it does not even freeze in the winter in vancouver and if it does it is barely below freezing.
Just be aware, you also need to redo the doors and any plumbing, electricial & venting exterior wall penetrations. I probably just more practical to go with rigid foam panels and add a rain screen instead of a layer of ZIP-R. If you go with anything above about 1/2" of insulation you need to build window & door buck framing to support them.
Beil no I would imagine that it’s not so much about how cold it gets in Vancouver but making homes super energy efficient.
R-70 on the roof!
YEA!
i like the long video format. 👍
Nice to see ya checking out some builds in much different places. Going to be building a few buildings in NC with an emphasis on low build/running costs using passive and solar/wind/hydro/geo and rain collection. Our builds will be pretty different from the stuff you usually do, but knowledge is power and there is loads in your videos. Keep it up.
Hope you take some of the passive house stuff with you to incorporate into your work. Seeing what you could do with some of those ideas would be amazing I'm sure. (I bet you could get .3 or better xD)
In BC while I'm down in Portland OR! Darn!
WELCOME....HI FROM NEXT DOOR....ALBERTA...
You should make a Toronto stop sometime. Climate there is brutal, I used to build there. Super hot and humid summer and Freezing ass winters. It has to have one of the worst temperature and humidity extremes of any city in North America
Vancouver. . . The North? That's about as far south and temperate as Canada gets. Lol. . . Head up to Yellowknife.
Well actually, Toronto is further south. Vancouver gets the benefits of warm moist air from Pacific.
@@stanleysiewierski Toronto is frigid compared to.....
@@andrewjackson9853 Florida?
@@hightechredneck8587 Vancouver. . . Vancouver might as well be Seattle.
@@andrewjackson9853 I'm just replying to your statement as far South as Canada gets. Toronto is much further south actually, Windsor is the furthest South. Vancouver is temperate climate but it is not as far South as Canada gets. Like saying Miami is as far South as US gets no, Key West is as far South. Maybe you were referring South in a different context....
You put on 2 layers of building paper and you will surpass the National Energy Code (9.36) in Vancouver.
...But Moisture control ... you need Expert status. Matt you should go build in Cold Lake , Ab in January.
The Home Construction and Improvement industry. Making new jokes every day. "I'll schluter your job." 🤣
Around the 4:30 mark there was brief discussion about the thickness of the insulation, vapor barrier, and trapped moisture. I would love to know more about how all these things interact. I live in neither a Texas or Canada type environment. Thanks for all the knowledge you help disperse.
It's funny hearing Vancouver is cold and very cold. Cross the water over to Victoria they have palm trees lol Come to Ottawa, Ontario in February Matt :P
You should visit Winnipeg, or the Yukon. Vancouver is quite temperate being on the coast and all.
@tony Schaapman That is a goint point, although there is some occasional construction in Wellington Crescent.
No doubt there are other high end neighborhoods here, although they may not feature mansions.
@tony Schaapman Correction if you have money you leave Winnipeg and build in BC.
Finally cold climate builds
VERY COOL
Thank you Matt appreciate the show and information!
A neighbour down the street in Ottawa Ont Canada put 6 inches of rockwool around his entire house o the outside. Tyvec, Rockwool, strapping the siding.
Best way IMHO to avoid a 2x8 frame (if required by code for insulation thickness); go with a staggered double stud 2x4 wall, with a 1" gap in the middle (you could even put 1" polyiso in this gap). Should help reduce some costs on 2x8's and the staggered double stud completely eliminates bridging
I made a 10” wall. 2x4 and 2x6 staggered 12” OC on opposite sides.
R60 blown into the ceiling. Small heating bill.
@@jasonkeuma1986 Sounds like a great assembly.
Another reason I love double stud is it allows you to create a service cavity with the interior studs. If you can keep 2/3 of your R-Value on the exterior stud plane, you can place our vapour barrier before your interior stud plane. Now you can run electrical, plumbing and make all the cuts/holes you want into the 2x4 without cutting the vapour barrier.
Can I ask why you went with 12"OC for your wall? AFAIK a double stud typically opens you up to being able to space studs further, say 19"OC or 24" OC. Not to say what you did is wrong, just am curious is all :).
Edit: I believe I mis-read your comment initially . You're saying the studs for each wall are staggered 12" OC apart from each other, not 12" OC on the plate, I understand now
The studs were 2’ OC. There was a stud every 12” on one side, then another 12” on the other side of the plate.
I blocked it but not “fire blocked” because of the gap.
I chose 2’ OC because I scored a ton of 2’ insulation.
It was a 40’x 40’ detached garage that took 150 gallons of heating oil for 12 consecutive months.
15:00
Matt: " ..and you've got a big ole what 10 inch .. 9 inch screw there?"
Roofer: "10 inch screw, yeah!"
amazing. I got so-so many good details from these builders in just this one video
The special tool for remove magnetic tile is using suction cup hehehe... but Is guess it's less expensive if you buy a magnetic paint and paint the subfloor but if someone spill out water or a leak you will have a large pool under your floor
such a nice house! Love seeing the Canadian content! Is there any finished update video on this house?
Details on the HVAC and plumbing on that second house please! Very cool!!!
Matt has to check out real "cold" climate build like saskatchewan passive houses
They mounted the res bar upside down 🤪 you need them to be mounted so that gravity does not pull the sound bar into contact with the wall studs
Truly great projects! (fellow proud Canadian)
Minor note, but the resilient channel should installed the other way round (fastener at the bottom) so the other leg doesn't make contact with the framing. They even put the nice text label on the metal to help remind you. Oh well, it's still going to be a great home!
Wirsbo and Uponor, same thing. Company changed its name in 2001.
idiots
Loved that part. Duck Season ... rabbit reason
Matt, if you want cold climate construction, visit Saskatoon, SK as it is probably the largest North American city with extreme cold weather. It also has a vibrant economy with lots of new construction.
33:40 I like the glass roof. 39:30 Think of the reuse potential!
Berta COLD!!!!
Roof insulation works fantastic even in the US Gulf coast. I know of a 1:12 pitch midcentury modern that was re-roofed with TPO glued down over 2" of ISO board. It is 2500 SF and the highest monthly cooling bill since has been less than $100
It doesn't get cold in Vancouver, it's like the Florida of Canada, you want cold go to the prairies -40 winters are not unheard of there, Vancouver is like -5 in the winter!!!!!!!! shorts and t-shirt weather for us prairie folk!!!!!