I understand Rick and Maya's feelings for wanting to give Lizzy a sibling. But, I can't help but feel that they are being completely selfish for asking Nicole to do it again. Nicole has a life too and Maya and Rick need to realize that better.
Especially since surrogacy is legal in America. Why not use Nicole's egg? Maya is all about I-do-what-I-want-with-my-body, but expects nicole's to be at her disposal? Her father is right when he calls her selfish to di last bone
Love how Wyatt keeps slapping Steffy in the face with his words... like she “tried” to fight for their marriage when she was only looking for a way out to go back to Liam 🙄 ...like ending her marriage = Quinn out of her life. Umm she’s STILL married to your grandfather either way 😒
Do you realize that this is illogical? If Steffy had just used all of this as an excuse, she would have been back with Liam LONG TIME AGO. But she's not going back to Liam straight away, wanting to give Wyatt another chance. But it's ok, Steffy haters can't see that straight ahead.
I see comments about Steffy and the fact that she knows how to find an excuse to leave Wyatt, I agree in part. However, Hope did the same thing as Steffy. She openly told Liam that she still loved him while she was expecting Wyatt’s child and that she was married. Hope certainly liked Wyatt, but if she's staying with him, it's for the kid. Strangely enough, many have short memories of Hope. I feel sorry for Wyat, but during his two marriages to his brother's exes, it was thanks in part to his mother that he was married to them. It should not be forgotten. The previous episode has proven that Ridge was right about one thing, Wyatt doesn't actually know Steffy to know he just condemned his marriage. Afterwards, I understand that he had to be honest with his mother, because certainly she knows how to handle her little world but she had the right to know.
Not only that, but everyone keeps forgetting that it took more than 30 episodes for Steffy to actually find her way back to Liam. If she really had planned this from the beginning, she would have taken the opportunity much, much earlier. But she hasn't. Ridge left Taylor at the altar when the lie about Brooke came out. And the fact of the matter is, Steffy and Wyatt would never have married if Quinn hadn't rigged things up.
Steffy is very unfair to Wyatt, she was so dishonest her and Ridge to Quinn, Wyatt did the right thing my telling his mom the truth, so if Steffy is going to exit her marriage with Wyatt then she never meant to keep her vows form the beginning...she was just looking for the perfect excuse to leave Wyatt to go back to Liam who she never stopped loving
I dont. He kept going after his brother's exes and expected a different result each time. That's the definition of insanity. There was plenty of women in Los Angeles. He didn't have to keep going after women that was his brother 1st
steffy does know she doesn’t have to talk to quinn right?🤣 y’all don’t work same departments, she’ll leave them alone cause she’s always busy with eric… steffy just wanted a reason to leave even if it was stupid
I only just really noticed how much this Thomas, and Steffy, look alike. Similar eyes, face shape, hair, and they both resemble a mixture of Ridge and Taylor in looks too. Whoever cast him knew what they were doing, pity he was replaced.
Steffy found her way out and shes right it was a manipulated marriage by them both but Wyatt really loved Steffy and maybe they should get together again in the future
Rick and Maya is absolutely crazy....absolutely not Nicole. Its time.for Rick and Maya to adopt or find a different surrogate...the next baby Nicole should be having when she's ready and married is Zende's own.👍
I just don't understand why Rick and Maya couldn't hire a surrogate and egg donor. It's not like they wouldn't have the money and the surrogate actually volunteers to take time in her life to carry a baby. Why do they feel like they have to run to Nicole anytime they get an urge to expand their family?
Gee Maya, just how many children would you like your little sister to have for you? The nerve! I hated that whole storyline, it's positively abusive in my view. What's wrong with adopting? So many unwanted children needing a home.
I always hated how they play this story, how is it that Steffy walks out on Wytte cause of his Mom Quinn , is she gonna divorce her family too cause Quinn is married to her Grandad... way dum story
That Steffy is never going to change, she is the persone who seem to look for any reason not work on her married life with anyone, she is the same in 2021
Well so far she's still married to Finn. Her longest marriage so far. And today the biggest threats to that marriage are Sheila and Liam. So we will see if her marriage with Finn can survive those threats
I love Steffy but she is asking way too much of Wyatt. Even if Quinn wasn’t married to Eric, she is still her mother in law. And it’s honestly selfish as hell to tell Wyatt to lose contact with his mother. That was his only family until he found out he was Bill’s son. And I agree with other people, she is just trying to find a way out to be with Liam again. She’s holding this over Wyatt’s head to get what she wants. Wyatt doesn’t deserve this and I hate this storyline
Steffy said that wyatt mother is the Westin that she needs her out but isn't it Liam going back home and he was you back now that you are married to is bother
c dubba u well his mom almost killed people and she’s was freaking evil so. I don’t care who’s mom it is if she tried to kill me, my family or hurt them then yes I’m going after them.
Steffy get real you married Wyatt 1 month after Liam was gone and you blame Quinn, please and your leaving Wyatt because you want to and are you going to leave your job to get away from Quinn too, Lol
Millions of women in LA and yet Wyatt kept falling for women that not only were involved with his brother but were still in love with him. Hope, Ivy and Steffy. Hell even Sally had a thing for Liam first even though they never dated. The writers finally gave him a girl of his own with Flo but then got her involved with the Baby Beth situation and that went to hell.
I see it differently...it would be easy to say it your way; but the fact that Quinn was also the reason why Hope left Wyatt begs me to differ. Wyatt has a instinct to always be loyal to his mother over everything and everyone else because she was a single mom. Steffy genuinely loves Wyatt in these episodes. Wyatt just was put in a lousy position and once again he picked Quinn over his Wife.
@@UrGworlCanCan Yes Quinn and Wyatt relationship is or was unhealthy to say the least but both Hope and Steffy were still in love with Liam when they got marry Wyatt he was a rebound. Making an unrealistic demand like control your mother. Steffy was the worse to put it on Wyatt to keep her away from Eric, like really, even Hope was staying with Wyatt even tho she married Decon.
@@julianatenia-mccollin4833 But do you remember that Hope also demanded Quinn stay away when she was pregnant. How realistic is that demand? Both situations pitted Wyatt between a rock and a hard place. I agree that he played the rebound guy for both ladies but he was loved by them both enough for marriage and they both tired to make it work with Wyatt, but you gotta admit it's kinda hard to do that with a Smother like Quinn😟😊😄🤷🏽♀️
@@UrGworlCanCan True but Hope didn't threaten to leave Wyatt when she married Deacon she just told Deacon the he will be somewhat cut out of her life. In other words once Quinn stayed away from her and her home she was cool. Steffy was extra cause wants Wyatt to control their living situation and her grandfather situation she couldn't control her grandfather but she expect Wyatt to control who his mother sleeping with. She should have gone back to Liam when he was rescued and stop trying to look good. If Quinn had move to Alaska she would have gone back to Liam anyhow.
@@julianatenia-mccollin4833 Lol🤣🤣🤣 I can see that too. I will still think she really wanted it workout with Wyatt. Because she moved back to the beach house when Wyatt stood by her at the boycott. If Wyatt had not heard them talking about the POA he wouldn't have been so obligated to tell Quinn and he and Steffy may have stood a better chance. Even Liam gave them some space after Bill warned him he would be disinherited if he did otherwise. Quinn always get in Wyatt's way of happiness when she should just take several seats...He is a grown ass Man-child. Lolol 🤣🤣🤣
Rick and Maya shouldn't have asked a young virgin girl to be their surrogate in the first place. They destroyed her first love and relationship with Zende. And now they dare to ask it again? This is beyond selfish. Nicole shouldn't have never accept it.
oh Wyatt, you still believe in Santa when you think Quinn won't abuse the power over the company. Because that's exactly what she will do and not for Eric's best but for her own sense of power.
asking Nicole to go thru another pregnancy is kinda selfish, just adopt! you got one kid already by blood. they know what happened and how difficult it was for her the first time. plus finding out after this she can’t even have kids of her own. as to whyyyyy surrogates ALWAYS should have 2 or more kids before becoming a surrogate cause as a first time mom/pregnancy many things can go wrong
I am personally understand why steffy left wyatt, He was just a place hold for liam , something to hold on when liam was away and when he came back, she wanted him back. I do think that maya and rick were extremely selfish towards nicole, l honestly though that sasha and thomsa were end game , they had so much chemistry together and I personally thought Thomas gave up on Sasha to quickly and I think Thomsa brought out a new side to Sasha and vice versa but I am kinda upset that sasha and thomsa didnt get together
Steffy your so childish when it comes to Quinn Steffy just playing these games with Wyatt and stop being selfish with it come to your granddad and Quinn cause their is Steffy Quinn has charged Wyatt left her go she is just playing games and giving demands Steffy just stop the dangers speech because you and your father got caught in a lie
They all say this 16:59 She will forget about u in about what a month or two. 🫢 This is truly a soap, but i would say some ppl in real life will never know what true love is. Even worst some of them will just live through love imitations without knowing it! It take guts authenticity honesty devotion , grown up , will , courage stength all this with urself first and then with ppl u face to know what it is. A lot of ppl just don’t have it. And they probably will never have.
I understand Rick and Maya's feelings for wanting to give Lizzy a sibling. But, I can't help but feel that they are being completely selfish for asking Nicole to do it again. Nicole has a life too and Maya and Rick need to realize that better.
Especially since surrogacy is legal in America. Why not use Nicole's egg? Maya is all about I-do-what-I-want-with-my-body, but expects nicole's to be at her disposal? Her father is right when he calls her selfish to di last bone
Rick and maya are so selfish if they want to have another baby they can get a donar egg from Nicole and find another surrogate
she dosent want you Wyatt from the moment she and Liam met up your marriage was doomed
Love how Wyatt keeps slapping Steffy in the face with his words... like she “tried” to fight for their marriage when she was only looking for a way out to go back to Liam 🙄 ...like ending her marriage = Quinn out of her life. Umm she’s STILL married to your grandfather either way 😒
Do you realize that this is illogical? If Steffy had just used all of this as an excuse, she would have been back with Liam LONG TIME AGO. But she's not going back to Liam straight away, wanting to give Wyatt another chance. But it's ok, Steffy haters can't see that straight ahead.
I see comments about Steffy and the fact that she knows how to find an excuse to leave Wyatt, I agree in part. However, Hope did the same thing as Steffy. She openly told Liam that she still loved him while she was expecting Wyatt’s child and that she was married. Hope certainly liked Wyatt, but if she's staying with him, it's for the kid. Strangely enough, many have short memories of Hope. I feel sorry for Wyat, but during his two marriages to his brother's exes, it was thanks in part to his mother that he was married to them. It should not be forgotten. The previous episode has proven that Ridge was right about one thing, Wyatt doesn't actually know Steffy to know he just condemned his marriage. Afterwards, I understand that he had to be honest with his mother, because certainly she knows how to handle her little world but she had the right to know.
Not only that, but everyone keeps forgetting that it took more than 30 episodes for Steffy to actually find her way back to Liam. If she really had planned this from the beginning, she would have taken the opportunity much, much earlier. But she hasn't. Ridge left Taylor at the altar when the lie about Brooke came out. And the fact of the matter is, Steffy and Wyatt would never have married if Quinn hadn't rigged things up.
Steffy is very unfair to Wyatt, she was so dishonest her and Ridge to Quinn, Wyatt did the right thing my telling his mom the truth, so if Steffy is going to exit her marriage with Wyatt then she never meant to keep her vows form the beginning...she was just looking for the perfect excuse to leave Wyatt to go back to Liam who she never stopped loving
Steffy leaving Wyatt doesn't remove Quinn from her life. It's just an excuse.
Maya and Rick are just shameless. Nicole should have laughed in their face
So sick of Steffy. She has no honor!
It is not the actors who want to do that, it is the writers of this show who create the storylines including the directors and producers
It is not real, they are actors
Steffie. Do you remember your past with bill? A man who wanted to destroy your families company. And a man you wind up sleepong with.
steffy is trying to find a way out
Mandy, I agree!
Fake love she just wants Liam
Rick and Maya how much more selfish can u be smh
U got that right 💯
Rick and Maya really just asked Nicole that again? Are you kidding me?????
And how old is Lizzie…6 months? Geeez….selfish
Love Quinn.
Great acting.
I guess Nicole is Rick and Maya's baby making machine. LMAO
Maya and Rick are crazy lmao
I feel sorry for Wyatt.
I dont. He kept going after his brother's exes and expected a different result each time. That's the definition of insanity. There was plenty of women in Los Angeles. He didn't have to keep going after women that was his brother 1st
I feel like Rick & his wife is being totally selfish. If they have no right to ask for the second time, why do it?
steffy does know she doesn’t have to talk to quinn right?🤣 y’all don’t work same departments, she’ll leave them alone cause she’s always busy with eric… steffy just wanted a reason to leave even if it was stupid
Geez Maya and Rick are so selfish. Leave Nicole alone already.
I only just really noticed how much this Thomas, and Steffy, look alike. Similar eyes, face shape, hair, and they both resemble a mixture of Ridge and Taylor in looks too. Whoever cast him knew what they were doing, pity he was replaced.
I agree I noticed that when this Thomas first came on. Very similar features to Steffy and eye colour. They definately look like siblings.
Wyatt was too good for Steffy.
Critic watcher u are do dam correct
@Nellie Cooper And now Wyatt's an ass in the current episodes. Don't like him anymore after what he did to Sally.
Steffy never love wyatt
Wyatt and Steffy should have never gotten married it was Quinn's manipulations. Deep down I think wyatt knew it wasn't going to work
No it was Steffy being a narcissistic SL** !!
QUINN didn't make Steffy marry him, please
Steffy found her way out and shes right it was a manipulated marriage by them both but Wyatt really loved Steffy and maybe they should get together again in the future
I think they are asking too much of Nicole they can adopt.
Rick and Maya is absolutely crazy....absolutely not Nicole. Its time.for Rick and Maya to adopt or find a different surrogate...the next baby Nicole should be having when she's ready and married is Zende's own.👍
Wyatt did what he had to do and Steffy just did what she wanted and was going to do all along- run to Liam and leave Wyatt.
I feel sorry for Wyatt... But I think he should let Steffy go whether she goes back to Liam or not.
Steffy really did not deserve him....
.....aaaaand look she ends her marriage to Wyatt and Quinn is still part of her life because she is still married to Eric!
Dumb dumb 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I just don't understand why Rick and Maya couldn't hire a surrogate and egg donor. It's not like they wouldn't have the money and the surrogate actually volunteers to take time in her life to carry a baby. Why do they feel like they have to run to Nicole anytime they get an urge to expand their family?
Gee Maya, just how many children would you like your little sister to have for you? The nerve! I hated that whole storyline, it's positively abusive in my view. What's wrong with adopting? So many unwanted children needing a home.
quinn isn't the reason Wyatt she is trying to let you down listen to her
Wyatt had to know this day would come
Thomas is very cute with Douglas
I always hated how they play this story, how is it that Steffy walks out on Wytte cause of his Mom Quinn , is she gonna divorce her family too cause Quinn is married to her Grandad... way dum story
That Steffy is never going to change, she is the persone who seem to look for any reason not work on her married life with anyone, she is the same in 2021
Well so far she's still married to Finn. Her longest marriage so far. And today the biggest threats to that marriage are Sheila and Liam. So we will see if her marriage with Finn can survive those threats
Steffy never loved Wyatt.
Wyatt find someone else who is nice.
Maya started with "no pressure" BS again. 😬
Poor Wyatt.
Steffy you are asking to much, for god sake, Quinn is his mother.
I love Steffy but she is asking way too much of Wyatt. Even if Quinn wasn’t married to Eric, she is still her mother in law. And it’s honestly selfish as hell to tell Wyatt to lose contact with his mother. That was his only family until he found out he was Bill’s son. And I agree with other people, she is just trying to find a way out to be with Liam again. She’s holding this over Wyatt’s head to get what she wants. Wyatt doesn’t deserve this and I hate this storyline
WTH wrong with rick and maya, they can adopt, do not put nicole through that again
Thomas was really trying to be a good father, he was a good guy in this clip, it’s a shame how he turned out. Lol
Steffy said that wyatt mother is the Westin that she needs her out but isn't it Liam going back home and he was you back now that you are married to is bother
wyatt give it up Steffy wants Liam
Steffy is just like her crazy Daddy
Nicole say hell no
Rick and Maya really?? Nicole is not your baby making machine!!!!
Selfish Rick and Maya
ikr.
Maya/Myron was one of the most greedy, selfish unlikable characters ever introduced on B&B.
Ridge told Wyatt. That is why he made that last laugh face when he left the Forrester Mansion.
The story of Steffy jumping back to Liam is getting old and fake.
I still prefer Thomas and Sasha!
Wyatt’s a mommy boy
Kind of hard not to be when you were raised by a single mom. I was, and you come after my mom, you better kill me first.
👩🏽⚖ Sustain!!
c dubba u well his mom almost killed people and she’s was freaking evil so. I don’t care who’s mom it is if she tried to kill me, my family or hurt them then yes I’m going after them.
Wyatt deserves better than Steffy, and Hope Katie Ivy Flo, I loved him with Sally but he screwed that up.
It’s crazy the comments attacking Steffy, Quinn hasn’t changed she still trying to manipulate Liam Life with Ivy, but Steffy the bad person 🙄🙄🙄
Steffy get real you married Wyatt 1 month after Liam was gone and you blame Quinn, please and your leaving Wyatt because you want to and are you going to leave your job to get away from Quinn too, Lol
Millions of women in LA and yet Wyatt kept falling for women that not only were involved with his brother but were still in love with him. Hope, Ivy and Steffy. Hell even Sally had a thing for Liam first even though they never dated. The writers finally gave him a girl of his own with Flo but then got her involved with the Baby Beth situation and that went to hell.
Wyatt let Steffy go,she doesn't deserve a guy like you.
Maya+Rick=selfish
Steffy stop the bs you want to run back to Liam but you trying to look good when u leave Wyatt 🥴
I see it differently...it would be easy to say it your way; but the fact that Quinn was also the reason why Hope left Wyatt begs me to differ. Wyatt has a instinct to always be loyal to his mother over everything and everyone else because she was a single mom. Steffy genuinely loves Wyatt in these episodes. Wyatt just was put in a lousy position and once again he picked Quinn over his Wife.
@@UrGworlCanCan Yes Quinn and Wyatt relationship is or was unhealthy to say the least but both Hope and Steffy were still in love with Liam when they got marry Wyatt he was a rebound. Making an unrealistic demand like control your mother. Steffy was the worse to put it on Wyatt to keep her away from Eric, like really, even Hope was staying with Wyatt even tho she married Decon.
@@julianatenia-mccollin4833 But do you remember that Hope also demanded Quinn stay away when she was pregnant. How realistic is that demand? Both situations pitted Wyatt between a rock and a hard place. I agree that he played the rebound guy for both ladies but he was loved by them both enough for marriage and they both tired to make it work with Wyatt, but you gotta admit it's kinda hard to do that with a Smother like Quinn😟😊😄🤷🏽♀️
@@UrGworlCanCan True but Hope didn't threaten to leave Wyatt when she married Deacon she just told Deacon the he will be somewhat cut out of her life. In other words once Quinn stayed away from her and her home she was cool. Steffy was extra cause wants Wyatt to control their living situation and her grandfather situation she couldn't control her grandfather but she expect Wyatt to control who his mother sleeping with. She should have gone back to Liam when he was rescued and stop trying to look good. If Quinn had move to Alaska she would have gone back to Liam anyhow.
@@julianatenia-mccollin4833 Lol🤣🤣🤣 I can see that too. I will still think she really wanted it workout with Wyatt. Because she moved back to the beach house when Wyatt stood by her at the boycott. If Wyatt had not heard them talking about the POA he wouldn't have been so obligated to tell Quinn and he and Steffy may have stood a better chance. Even Liam gave them some space after Bill warned him he would be disinherited if he did otherwise. Quinn always get in Wyatt's way of happiness when she should just take several seats...He is a grown ass Man-child. Lolol 🤣🤣🤣
Rick and Maya shouldn't have asked a young virgin girl to be their surrogate in the first place. They destroyed her first love and relationship with Zende. And now they dare to ask it again? This is beyond selfish. Nicole shouldn't have never accept it.
Wow in 2021 I love Steffy and Ridge but watching these episodes make me not like them at all !! Wyatt is to good for Steffy.
Sasha he can't respect women and be a play boy at the same time
oh Wyatt, you still believe in Santa when you think Quinn won't abuse the power over the company. Because that's exactly what she will do and not for Eric's best but for her own sense of power.
asking Nicole to go thru another pregnancy is kinda selfish, just adopt! you got one kid already by blood. they know what happened and how difficult it was for her the first time. plus finding out after this she can’t even have kids of her own. as to whyyyyy surrogates ALWAYS should have 2 or more kids before becoming a surrogate cause as a first time mom/pregnancy many things can go wrong
maya and rick are selfish and to ask that in front of zende knowing how he felt the last time nicole was a surrogate is crazy.
I like Wyatt.
Sweet.
I am personally understand why steffy left wyatt, He was just a place hold for liam , something to hold on when liam was away and when he came back, she wanted him back. I do think that maya and rick were extremely selfish towards nicole, l honestly though that sasha and thomsa were end game , they had so much chemistry together and I personally thought Thomas gave up on Sasha to quickly and I think Thomsa brought out a new side to Sasha and vice versa but I am kinda upset that sasha and thomsa didnt get together
Na Maya ur going to far now
Why can't he tell must he watch his mom thrown out bcoz of lies no that's totally wrong hypocrites
Goodbye Wyatt
Wow maya can't you just adopt a child or get another person to carry your child why do u have to put your sister through all this over again
Funny sasha told Thomas go make a family for your son lol fast forward to now 2019/2020 he made one with hope lol
Caroline can be so uggghh at times.. forever thinks she has a claim to someone when SHE is ready to be the woman for them🙄
Wyatt is so full of BS! You choose what was best for your lunatic Mother over what was best for your Wife. Bye!
Wyatt deserved better.
Na maya way u real selfish
over 21,000 views for the Steam reunion
steffy gets her karma later down the road anyway
Steffy Grow up!!!
Steffy acting like Hope...ugh.
Why don't waste your time that little fake thing go
👍
Steffy your so childish when it comes to Quinn
Steffy just playing these games with Wyatt and stop being selfish with it come to your granddad and Quinn cause their is
Steffy Quinn has charged
Wyatt left her go she is just playing games and giving demands
Steffy just stop the dangers speech because you and your father got caught in a lie
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Cnba
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so Nicole is a birthing machine now?
They all say this 16:59
She will forget about u in about what a month or two. 🫢
This is truly a soap, but i would say some ppl in real life will never know what true love is. Even worst some of them will just live through love imitations without knowing it!
It take guts authenticity honesty devotion , grown up , will , courage stength all this with urself first and then with ppl u face to know what it is.
A lot of ppl just don’t have it. And they probably will never have.