steffy is pressuring him too and taking advantage of him staying there with his daughter to hold him.she was telling Hope to wait until Kelly was born to get married but now she can't wait for Liam's baby with Hope to born.
Exactly if the shoe was on the other foot you think Steffy wouldn't interfere like she has so many times already! And like she has the few times since Liam and Hope had been married up until 2023! Steffy is always up in people's business just like Ridge and Both are nothing but Hypocrites!!!
steffi turned out to be the big winner in this god forsaken triangle.. she got a new life with a wonderful man (UPGRADE) kelly got a new daddy who actually spends more than 5 mins with her and theres a brand new baby coming.. while hope and liam will be making moony faces through plate glass for the forseeable future!! LMAO!!
STEFFY IS ALWAYS AND FOREVER WILL BE A princess even if bell makes her second to loegans sluts from the valley have a life steffy away from that waffler adulterous liamcrite
I knew as soon as Hopeless found out she was knocked up by Liam in a one night stand , she'd run right over to Steffy gloating and guilt Liam into coming back ,she truly is Brookehoe's little mini me, she learned everything she knows from the SFTV vey well .
Steffy had some serious patience in this arc...Hope was gonna be making the biggest U-turn back to her mom the minute her shadow shaded the doorstep. And Liam was gonna follow right after cuz he is DEFINITELY not worth it.
Girl Steffy didn't even have the energy to deal with Hope here. Sis just got out of the hospital. She was barely postpartum. I am sure Steffy was still in pain. I mean look at how slow she is moving and here comes Hope with her pregnancy.
Steffy really has the nerve to say Hope's pregnancy doesn't mean anything when she was whining and crying to Liam every five minutes about "OuR cHiLd" the entire time she was pregnant and trying to force him to forgive her for cheating with his dad. GTFO 🙄
Go guurrrrrl!!!!.....lol 😃 I'm really loving Hope's confidence it's great👍👍you can tell Steffy's worried deep down inside.... karma.... that's what its called Steffy..its a blessing for Hope and Liam
Instead he ignores Kelly who is his firstborn. It pisses me off how Zoe got off after all the shot she did. She cyber bullied Hope and bullied Emma. She lied about Hope and Liam’s daughter and yet she did not go to jail and still at Forrester. Look how B&B did Sally and Thomas. This is why I watch B&B half way.
@@bridgetsautner6093 yeah that's why he was on his knees begging Hope for forgiveness instead of reconciling with Steffy. lol Steffy is Liam's love only when he can't have Hope.
@@ankina86 and what does that make Hope for taking him back just to have him cheat on her again with Steffy. Just because she’s with him doesn’t make her a winner it just makes her look desperate.
@@bridgetsautner6093 Steffy can have Liam only when he believes that he can't have Hope while Steffy is stuck with her rebound. Maybe Hope isn't a winner, but Steffy is an absolute loser.
@@Amber01able Just like Liam panicked when Thomas moved in on Hope Liam is gonna villanize Steffy's new friend like he did Thomas whether or not the guy deserves it. I bet Liam will be seating on Hope's couch talking about how Steffy has a stranger around Kelly. Or something in order to justify him not liking the dude.
You mean because hope threw away her marriage to Liam and broke up her own family with Beth? After panting after a married man expecting a baby with his pregnant wife and carrying around a ring to propose to herself.
Wyatt could clearly make a decision..unlike Liam Edit update- Wyatt a waffler too🤣🤣🤣 At this point...Eff Hope, Eff Liam, Eff the Brooke vs Taylor drama history ,Eff eveybody else and let Steffy breathe away from all of them
I just don't get it. How can hope just stand there and say oh steffy liam is going to be raising our child together and I'll make sure I let him see your child as well
The responses Steffy and Hope give to each other is not enough. Let a female tell me she's going to work to take my son's father away from me; I really have a response for her. Not this scripted bs.
@@1TruPolish Exactly. I do respect that about Hope. She isn't playing games. She is being upfront about what she wants. Steffy kept saying nothing has changed but cooome on. That is just naive. She knew everything had changed!! Liam loves Hope. She knows that.
@@emmasummers893Liam should have married Hope when he had the chance despite Wyatt's confession Then Steffy could have moved on long ago... Why didnt he? Cuz he loves this attention and he's an idiot
Liam needs to quit making Steffy and Hope go against each other! And wow Steffy! I can’t believe she just told Hope not to interfere with her and Liams family! WOW! Hope is PREGNANT WITH LIAMS BABY NOW! So SHE needs to accept it that Hope and Liam will have a family together too!
This is where you could really start to see it hopes resentment of Kelly. From the moment that stick turn pink all she could think about was pulling Liam away from that little girl because Kelly's existence does not factor into her perfect little fairy tale life with liam
@@henriettaowens6291 Steffy is the one who called Beth a "complication" to Hope's face! On the other hand, Hope kept encouraging Liam to spend more and more time with Kelly. Or have you forgotten that she sent him off to check on Kelly rigt after their first sonogram?
Claire Lally Oh but it’s Steffy, so it’s ok that she’s trash that gives it out like candy and plays dirty all the time. But she’s so mature and she’s supposed to be excused every “mistake”. Hope stands up to her and she’s wrong. Mind you both Steffy and Hope are stupid for letting that waffle bounce between them.
Claire Lally steffy was already planning joint custody of hope child! Steffy said the same thing she wanted Liam to be with her and Kelly! She told hope to do the right thing! Meaning don’t make a play for Liam step aside and let him be with steffy and kelly! Beth wasn’t even born yet and steffy already see herself and Liam having joint custody
You know thru this whole storyline with Liam/ Hope/ Steffy, No one has ever come straight out, point blank and asked him WHY are you so indecisive? What is your problem?
Liam, you have money. Buy one huge house and move Hope on one side and Steffy on the other. You linger somewhere in the middle while they allow you to move back and forth between them. This is such contrived nonsense. Writers, let the truth drop that Bill paid off the technician while he was skulking around the facility. Declare Bill Kelly's father and let these folks settle the hell down.
Christina Bonvillian Do you truly believe Liam has no money? Not only has he worked for a Forrester, but he still works for Spencer. Bill doesn’t keep him on staff and pay him nothing.
Poor Sally. Always getting the end of the stick or whatever the saying goes. I hate these writers for letting be looked down upon by the mighty Forresters/Spencers
I wasn't a fan of Sally at first when she was purposely messing with Steffy for clout and stealing the Forresters' designs. But she eventually became a better person and I was really starting to love her as a character...Until Bell ruined her, of course!
Hahaha well Hope will see about that..dont get so comfortable just yet.. that baby hasn't even been born 😁😂😁..i hate to say this but if i were steffy id let liam go.. be alone with kelly and be happy. rather than fitting all into that Liam threshold 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
Steffy lost Liam as soon and she slept with bill. And hope being pregnant sealed the door it shut to them ever working out. ( and the way steffy looked defeated in this episode says so as well). Not that they would've anyway. Hope did warn steffy though " Liam will always be hers."
Arent u two women,fed up.fighting about this " drip" Liam???😅😅😅 Years and years and years..Stephiw Hope Hope Stephie!!😅😅😅 Youre so ridiculous..and now youre having KIDS,and still fighting over Liam!!😅😅😅😅😅! Dont u two EVER give up!?????😅😅😅😅😅
@@marygaryembry3213 That wouldn't make sense. She came back on the show in January and then she wasn't pregnant until July. That's too long of a period between her arrival and pregnancy.
Hope is pretty sick. Why is she constantly running to Steffy to tell her how she imagines her life? The reason: for Logans, everything is a competition. Who wins? And they do everything for that. That was the case with Brooke and Hope is the same.
@@clairelally3644 Not correct. Steffy didn't ask her for her opinion, so why does she want to tell her? It has nothing to do with honesty. If she had some empathy, she would leave Steffy time and space to process everything. But she always wants to hold what she wants in front of her. She should have given Steffy time first, that would have been fair.
@@feuerwehrluetzen Why would Hope give Steffy time and space when Liam had just told her that Steffy was pressuring him into getting married right away? Steffy wasn't understanding the magnitude of the situation, so Hope had to set her straight!
@@clairelally3644 You should probably watch episode 7877 again. Steffy immediately gave Liam time to think. Pressure is different. And Liam wasn't sure what to do. Then how can it be Hope? Everyone was overwhelmed in this situation. But if you only look at one side at a time, then your perspective comes out.
It's funny how Hope thinks that just because she's pregnant by Liam that he's gonna leave Steffy & Kelly an come live with her! This woman has become entitled thinking that just because she's pregnant that Liam is gonna want to be with her now! The apple sure doesnt fall far from the tree!
@@leahl.2812 stealing Ridge from Brooke was Taylor first and Steffy is like her mother she did the same with the help from Bill and Taylor with the help from Stephanie sen.
Steffy is unbelievable! When she was pregnant she used the baby as a weapon to guilt Liam into forgiving her for an horrible betrayal, she kept saying that the baby needed bother mom and dad and bla bla. And now she's expecting Hope to step out? Hope's baby deserves both mom and dad under the same roof as well. Steffy and Ridge are so egoistic, because they know that what Steffy did with Bill is unforgivable
@@RealTalk1411 I really don't want hope to have any children. I wish they would DNA test Beth and find out she is not hope's baby. Anything. Declaring hope sterile could be interesting too
I still think that Door Hope’s child is not Liam’s, I don’t know you but I don’t feel him. There is an episode where Hope goes out for lunch with her mom and a guy watches her. Between this episode and the one where Liam and Hope sleep together, he knows how to spend a few days. I think Hope had someone in the meantime forget her problems and that she got pregnant. Even if Hope and Liam are together with Beth and Douglas for now, the truth will be there. I think there is time for that, Bell, and one day it will be too late and Liam will have lost Steffy.
@@oneishaowens247 Sorry but I think you are wrong. Bell himself confirms it, Kelly is indeed Liam's daughter. Even when Kelly was born, doctors found him far advanced on his premature birth. This proves that she was already on the way when Steffy had cheated on Liam. For Hope, there is a gap between when the guy looked at her at lunch and when she is Liam sleeping together. To see in the long term. For now, Bell is still tiring us of the cheating Brooke and Bill did during Thomas' fake marriage. These two are the worst hypocrites I've ever seen.
@@clairelally3644 So sleeping with Liam at the time even if he was married to Steffy before his divorce, kissing a vulnerable man still married to his wife for you is stylish. You have a definition of respect only in a sense. I'm not going to downplay Steffy's actions or say that she did nothing. But recognize that Hope is not innocent either. It's easy to judge Steffy, but on numerous occasions, Hope had the choice to marry Liam even when Steffy was in Paris but she finally found better rather an excuse. Steffy took responsibility for it in front of Hope, years ago. But Liam and Hope are also responsible for their disasters. The difference in Hope and Steffy is that Steffy takes responsibility for his actions and responsibilities while Hope judges everyone non-stop.
@@Hanan2806 I think you are misunderstanding the context in which I used the term "style." Regardless, Hope has never done anything like what Steffy did. Kissing and sleeping with a separated man is a far cry from bedding your father-in-law after one night away from your husband and then going home and renewing your wedding vows! As for everything else, if Steffy truly accepted responsibility for her actions she would have accepted their consequences. By that I mean she should have accepted that her first marriage to Liam was a fraud, signed the annulment papers and moved. But no, she continued to torture Hope. Just as she had to tag along with them on their trip to Italy. Just as she had to make out with Liam in Hope's bed when Hope failed to appear at the chapel. Just as she had to take Liam out and get him drunk the night before their wedding. Just as she had to show up at their wedding to tell him that she could now have a baby. That's the only reason that they didn't get married while she was away!
Why do both Steffy and Hope act like Liam is an inanimate object that they can hand back and forth to each other? He is a person. A person who clearly has issues making up his mind that’s true but still. He should be the one to choose the life he wants. If I were Steffy I would let Liam go. Because of the fact he’s so conflicted I think means he wants to be with Hope. Steffy didn’t deserve that and Kelly didn’t deserve that.
Steffy is just like her mother Taylor using her body and her looks and her baby to trap a man Liam was in love with hope Steffy interfere without using her body to get Bill to give her what she wants
Steffi was wrong she expected be completely forgiven after she had a sex with Bill Williams father and had a baby by him Kelly is Bill's child not Liam's hope is the only one that has children with Liam she will get pregnant again by Liam
Omg the story repeat it self Taylor and Brooks Now Sheffie an hope please stop this nonsens find hope somebody and Liam docent know what he wants who lives with someone and then dosent know what to do PLEASE stop it getting boring
Steffie is so insecure when it comes to Liam she is now threatening Hope because Hope is pregnant with Liam’s child. Why? Hope didn’t deliberately get pregnant. Hope and Liam were engaged and they made love 💕. Face it Steffie Hope is not a threat to you if anything you’re a threat to yourself.
Well say what you want but you will not see Hope having an affair with Bill. She is nothing like Brooke. She have a right to want the best for her baby. Every time you look around Steffy and Bill was doing something stupid to them. Hope fans don't have to say anything because all you all have to do is look in the rear view 🪞 at Steffy behavior.
Neither of them have a more deserving child, but Hope certainly is more deserving of a life with Liam given the fact that she always been loyal and faithful to him. Meanwhile Steffy bedded her father-in-law!
@@clairelally3644 Hope got pregnant by her brother-in-law and Hope married Steffy's brother Thomas. Hope hasn't been faithful to Liam considering she married Liam's and Steffys brothers. Liam sure as heck hasn't been loyal to Hope considering Liam keeps sticking his peen into Hope's stepsister and Liam keeps marrying Hope's stepsister and Liam keeps impregnating Hope's Stepsister ... They just showed a rerun of Hope running off yet again with Wyatt while Liam settles for Ivy.
@@folikusgu2972 Hope wasn't with Liam either time that those things happened! She certainly didn't have a ring on her finger when she slept with Wyatt. And she sure as hell has never bedded Liam's father!
@@clairelally3644 The only reason Hope didn't sleep with Liam while married to Wyatt is because she was pregnant with Wyatt's baby but before then Hope was ready to bed Liam. Hope slept with Liam while still married to Thomas. The only reason Hope hasn't slept with daddy in-law is cause he hates her guts.
Staffy you need to stop acting so holy then I'll then you just sleep with the father a few episodes back and you want to talk about hope and Liam create a child out of love you and Bill created your child lust and love
The swiftness with which I would have put Hope out of my house is unparalleled.
BRAVO BRAVO
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🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
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Steffy and Hope are busy arguing with each other rather than redirecting it towards the man that keeps bouncing back and forth between the 2. Liam.
steffy and bill is the reason Liam is bouncing back and forth between her and Hope.
Correct is right..but Steffy will see the light soon
Hope loves to tell Steffy not to pressure Liam and to give him space, whilst she takes every opportunity to do the exact opposite
steffy is pressuring him too and taking advantage of him staying there with his daughter to hold him.she was telling Hope to wait until Kelly was born to get married but now she can't wait for Liam's baby with Hope to born.
Yes .its a stupid series😅😅😅
Exactly if the shoe was on the other foot you think Steffy wouldn't interfere like she has so many times already! And like she has the few times since Liam and Hope had been married up until 2023! Steffy is always up in people's business just like Ridge and Both are nothing but Hypocrites!!!
steffi turned out to be the big winner in this god forsaken triangle.. she got a new life with a wonderful man (UPGRADE) kelly got a new daddy who actually spends more than 5 mins with her and theres a brand new baby coming.. while hope and liam will be making moony faces through plate glass for the forseeable future!! LMAO!!
Good for her!! Shed just her mother!iss Goody Two Shoes
I’m very happy that steffy left waffle alone he belong to boring as hope she so tired just like her mama old hags flock together
STEFFY IS ALWAYS AND FOREVER WILL BE A princess even if bell makes her second to loegans sluts from the valley have a life steffy away from that waffler adulterous liamcrite
Exactly but she also was the one that always came between hope and Liam but she got a way better guy than Liam I love finn
And Shelia for a mother in law. YAH 🎉
Now Liam will be eternally torn between Steffy and Hope. Although, you do see how early he was leaning towards Hope and their baby in this episode.
Exactly 💯
Am I the only one who can't stand Hope!!!! And seriously Liam's indecisiveness, istg I'm LOSING IT!!!
No, I love Hope. Steffy needs to face reality!
Yea you are TeamHope
Agreed
I've never been a hope fan, but I think Steffy deserves so much better than
lame liam wack behind.
Hope is a bitch
I knew as soon as Hopeless found out she was knocked up by Liam in a one night stand , she'd run right over to Steffy gloating and guilt Liam into coming back ,she truly is Brookehoe's little mini me, she learned everything she knows from the SFTV vey well .
U really gona sat that about hope steffy is the hoe
i like to keep the posts fresh and up to date and love the banter
Sure
Me too Mandy
Steffy won Liam body, Hope got his ❤ heart.
wyatt learning Hope is Pregnant had to hurt him & remind him of their baby they lost.
No one even mentions it I have heard Steffy mention loosing her first child
The show pretends hoep didn't have wyatt and Liam
According to b&b she and Wyatt never happened..😂😂
@@MenelikTime right 😂😂
Watching this again shows Hope really is her mother’s daughter. The underlying spite from Dopey is written all over her face!
Yes, she has a sour mouth
She really is. She just came back to cause trouble. Just to make sure that the whole world turns around her again. This girl is getting on my nerves.
@@feuerwehrluetzen Yeah, she forced Steffy to bed Bill!
@@clairelally3644 You bore me. Is that actually your counter-argument for everything that is said against Hope?
@@feuerwehrluetzen Do you have anything besides false equivalencies.
Steffy had some serious patience in this arc...Hope was gonna be making the biggest U-turn back to her mom the minute her shadow shaded the doorstep. And Liam was gonna follow right after cuz he is DEFINITELY not worth it.
Girl Steffy didn't even have the energy to deal with Hope here. Sis just got out of the hospital. She was barely postpartum. I am sure Steffy was still in pain. I mean look at how slow she is moving and here comes Hope with her pregnancy.
Liam is just like Ridge. Bill is his Dad but he's just like Ridge. 2 kids with 2 different women
Bill has 3 kids with 3 different women. Liam, Wyatt and Will
Yes Liam is just like ridge
Ridge had 4 kids Thomas steffy phoebe and RJ.. HOPE is not and never will be RIDGE'S. Print that in ur head
@@janetferrari9188 Bill also impregnated Brooke so that 4.
Steffy really has the nerve to say Hope's pregnancy doesn't mean anything when she was whining and crying to Liam every five minutes about "OuR cHiLd" the entire time she was pregnant and trying to force him to forgive her for cheating with his dad. GTFO 🙄
LOL
Obsessive love Zoe,Bill,Thomas again and again a repeat all time.
Go guurrrrrl!!!!.....lol 😃 I'm really loving Hope's confidence it's great👍👍you can tell Steffy's worried deep down inside.... karma.... that's what its called Steffy..its a blessing for Hope and Liam
Karma is real but hope deserves better than that scrub liam
In begining, she should find her own man, that Steffy, Liam loves Hope and always will. Run Steffy run.
So glad steffy has finn a good man
Good for you Hope 👏🏻👏🏻
Why does everyone think that Liam should ignore the child that Hope's having? Or that he would? Liam isn't like that!
Exactly! Liam has 2 KIDS now not just 1.
They know it anyone who's seen the show form the beginning at Hops an Lima's relationship would know where Liam's going to go
Instead he ignores Kelly who is his firstborn. It pisses me off how Zoe got off after all the shot she did. She cyber bullied Hope and bullied Emma. She lied about Hope and Liam’s daughter and yet she did not go to jail and still at Forrester. Look how B&B did Sally and Thomas. This is why I watch B&B half way.
why do hope fans excuse him constantly ignoring his child with steffi
Man Liam a puck
Steffy at this moment was" Whatever girl. I am just too tired to fight with you right now".
Is that why she said, "I am going to fight" you?
A whole mood
Steffy should kicked Liam and Hope out in that moment
So ironic... Steffy said that Hope created a fantasy in her head. Now Steffy is left with a fantasy on her wall.
That’s not what Liam was thinking when he slept with her
@@bridgetsautner6093 👏👏👏
@@bridgetsautner6093 yeah that's why he was on his knees begging Hope for forgiveness instead of reconciling with Steffy. lol Steffy is Liam's love only when he can't have Hope.
@@ankina86 and what does that make Hope for taking him back just to have him cheat on her again with Steffy. Just because she’s with him doesn’t make her a winner it just makes her look desperate.
@@bridgetsautner6093 Steffy can have Liam only when he believes that he can't have Hope while Steffy is stuck with her rebound. Maybe Hope isn't a winner, but Steffy is an absolute loser.
And look where they are today
Liam just asked Hope to Marry him
And raise their baby with Douglas together!!! And Steffy about to get another man....
I wouldn't worry about Steffy If I was a Hope&Liam fan
They've had Wyatt and now Thomas come inbetween Lope.
and then Liam is gona see red and panic and want Steffy later
@@Amber01able
Just like Liam panicked when Thomas moved in on Hope
Liam is gonna villanize Steffy's new friend like he did Thomas whether or not the guy deserves it. I bet Liam will be seating on Hope's couch talking about how Steffy has a stranger around Kelly. Or something in order to justify him not liking the dude.
he has been loganised to look after Hopeless but sooner or later watch the worm
@@Amber01able
Hmmm It'll be crawling to the cliff home behind Hope's back.
Liam has a child with HOPE too! People need to understand this.
Nobody is ever forgotten that. It's hope who has issues with him having a child with somebody else.
@@crisvanfan No, she takes issue with Steffy using her child to control Liam!
@@crisvanfan or Dancing in Aspens Grave with Brooke Liam has 2 Childs with Steffy Aspen +2013 & Kelly *06/04/2018
It's Laughable hearing Hope use the word commit in reference to waffle boy
they should call that cottage "waffle house"😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@crisvanfan 😂😂
These Steffy/Hope scenes are so ironic with what's happening right now.
You mean because hope threw away her marriage to Liam and broke up her own family with Beth? After panting after a married man expecting a baby with his pregnant wife and carrying around a ring to propose to herself.
Aww Harry is absolutely adorable!
See this is why the one who is writing this mess shouldn't even ever pick up a pin or pencil again
Let's hide all of the pens,pencils, markers and crayons! Then he can't write!
I think I should be writing this soap cause it’s getting sad and sadder bell jr I’m calling you out you doing bad ass writing literally
Agree. The writing is so tiresome.
Wyatt could clearly make a decision..unlike Liam
Edit update- Wyatt a waffler too🤣🤣🤣
At this point...Eff Hope, Eff Liam, Eff the Brooke vs Taylor drama history ,Eff eveybody else and let Steffy breathe away from all of them
I just don't get it. How can hope just stand there and say oh steffy liam is going to be raising our child together and I'll make sure I let him see your child as well
When did she say that?
Claire Lally she didn’t!
Steffy was trying to get hope to let them be a family!
@@henriettaowens6291 And Hope wants the same thing for her chilf!
@@clairelally3644 hope isn’t denying it! It’s Liam decision! Steffy is trying to make it for him!
The responses Steffy and Hope give to each other is not enough. Let a female tell me she's going to work to take my son's father away from me; I really have a response for her. Not this scripted bs.
@@1TruPolish Exactly. I do respect that about Hope. She isn't playing games. She is being upfront about what she wants. Steffy kept saying nothing has changed but cooome on. That is just naive. She knew everything had changed!! Liam loves Hope. She knows that.
@@emmasummers893 hope and Liam meant to be from the beginning.
@@emmasummers893Liam should have married Hope when he had the chance despite Wyatt's confession
Then Steffy could have moved on long ago... Why didnt he? Cuz he loves this attention and he's an idiot
Wow Liam ,you told Steffi you weren't going anywhere you're so two face now you don't know who to be with.
Exactly dude is sick
Liam needs to quit making Steffy and Hope go against each other! And wow Steffy! I can’t believe she just told Hope not to interfere with her and Liams family! WOW! Hope is PREGNANT WITH LIAMS BABY NOW! So SHE needs to accept it that Hope and Liam will have a family together too!
This is where you could really start to see it hopes resentment of Kelly. From the moment that stick turn pink all she could think about was pulling Liam away from that little girl because Kelly's existence does not factor into her perfect little fairy tale life with liam
roman4champ steffy is only thinking about her family with Liam! Watch it again and listen to everything steffy was saying to hope
@@henriettaowens6291 Steffy is the one who called Beth a "complication" to Hope's face! On the other hand, Hope kept encouraging Liam to spend more and more time with Kelly. Or have you forgotten that she sent him off to check on Kelly rigt after their first sonogram?
Claire Lally Oh but it’s Steffy, so it’s ok that she’s trash that gives it out like candy and plays dirty all the time. But she’s so mature and she’s supposed to be excused every “mistake”. Hope stands up to her and she’s wrong. Mind you both Steffy and Hope are stupid for letting that waffle bounce between them.
Claire Lally steffy was already planning joint custody of hope child! Steffy said the same thing she wanted Liam to be with her and Kelly! She told hope to do the right thing! Meaning don’t make a play for Liam step aside and let him be with steffy and kelly! Beth wasn’t even born yet and steffy already see herself and Liam having joint custody
@@henriettaowens6291 How is that the right thing? what make her think that Beth was any less deserving of a full-time father than Kelly?
Steffy did the same thing her mother Taylor did all those years ago she used her child to get a man back
You know thru this whole storyline with Liam/ Hope/ Steffy, No one has ever come straight out, point blank and asked him WHY are you so indecisive? What is your problem?
Liam, you have money. Buy one huge house and move Hope on one side and Steffy on the other. You linger somewhere in the middle while they allow you to move back and forth between them.
This is such contrived nonsense.
Writers, let the truth drop that Bill paid off the technician while he was skulking around the facility. Declare Bill Kelly's father and let these folks settle the hell down.
Christina Bonvillian Do you truly believe Liam has no money? Not only has he worked for a Forrester, but he still works for Spencer. Bill doesn’t keep him on staff and pay him nothing.
He doesn't work for spencer, lol. He doesn't want anything to with his father and is cutted out from his money
Excellent idea! Maybe if you were writing for this sorry show it might actually be interesting! Why don't we collaborate?
@@ronderulijkummar7453 Let's do it! Lol
thank god for Finn!!! Steffy got to walk away from the nightmare that is hopeless!!! Hope is brooke's carbon print, so entitled and sick!!!
and now hes alive.and they are together again....
Poor Sally. Always getting the end of the stick or whatever the saying goes. I hate these writers for letting be looked down upon by the mighty Forresters/Spencers
I wasn't a fan of Sally at first when she was purposely messing with Steffy for clout and stealing the Forresters' designs. But she eventually became a better person and I was really starting to love her as a character...Until Bell ruined her, of course!
Right
Hahaha well Hope will see about that..dont get so comfortable just yet.. that baby hasn't even been born 😁😂😁..i hate to say this but if i were steffy id let liam go.. be alone with kelly and be happy. rather than fitting all into that Liam threshold 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
Exactly both seffy and hope deserves better Liam is a sucker
She is.
And she will❤❤
Steffy lost Liam as soon and she slept with bill. And hope being pregnant sealed the door it shut to them ever working out. ( and the way steffy looked defeated in this episode says so as well). Not that they would've anyway. Hope did warn steffy though " Liam will always be hers."
Arent u two women,fed up.fighting about this " drip" Liam???😅😅😅
Years and years and years..Stephiw Hope Hope Stephie!!😅😅😅
Youre so ridiculous..and now youre having KIDS,and still fighting over Liam!!😅😅😅😅😅!
Dont u two EVER give up!?????😅😅😅😅😅
Steffy stop playing the baby card you know deep down you were always second place😊
Steffy just told hope off
Now hope doesnt consider Kelly family Hope got what she wanted kelly last on liams mind
As Hope said, her child is her first and only priority!
she still doesnt.. there is not one picture of kelly in that tacky cabin.... they never mention her when talking about "the children"
@@clairelally3644 which is incredibly selfish when your husband has another child
Liam hope or steffi make up of your mind,you play these women
They both need to leave this guy alone
Liam is a case if that was Steffy, we all know how you would react?
Deer this is what I'm talking about she never give respect to Steffy hope ruin Liam and Steffy relationship!
Let's take it back to when hope was with Liam FIRST. Did steffy give respect to her???
@Christina Bonvillian um. No she didn't
@Christina Bonvillian like I said no she didn't. You can deny it all you want. Doesn't change facts. You can exit now 😁
@Christina Bonvillian And sweetheart I'm a grown ass woman. Get it right
sherun artis facts, hope said she was gonna respect their relationship but she didn’t
BOTTOM LINE HOPE GOT PREGNANT TO SEAL HER FUTURE WITH LIAM!!
untrue.
Hope was pregnant went she came back from Paris Limm is not the father!
@@marygaryembry3213 That wouldn't make sense. She came back on the show in January and then she wasn't pregnant until July. That's too long of a period between her arrival and pregnancy.
Hope is pretty sick. Why is she constantly running to Steffy to tell her how she imagines her life? The reason: for Logans, everything is a competition. Who wins? And they do everything for that. That was the case with Brooke and Hope is the same.
Hope is just being honest about what she wants for her child! She isn't being underhand or malicious like Steffy.
@@clairelally3644 Not correct. Steffy didn't ask her for her opinion, so why does she want to tell her? It has nothing to do with honesty.
If she had some empathy, she would leave Steffy time and space to process everything. But she always wants to hold what she wants in front of her. She should have given Steffy time first, that would have been fair.
@@feuerwehrluetzen Why would Hope give Steffy time and space when Liam had just told her that Steffy was pressuring him into getting married right away? Steffy wasn't understanding the magnitude of the situation, so Hope had to set her straight!
@@clairelally3644 You should probably watch episode 7877 again. Steffy immediately gave Liam time to think. Pressure is different.
And Liam wasn't sure what to do. Then how can it be Hope? Everyone was overwhelmed in this situation. But if you only look at one side at a time, then your perspective comes out.
@@feuerwehrluetzen she literally kept asking him if he still wanted to get married? How is that giving someone time?
Yes did steal Liam back after she just gave birth to they baby!
It's funny how Hope thinks that just because she's pregnant by Liam that he's gonna leave Steffy & Kelly an come live with her! This woman has become entitled thinking that just because she's pregnant that Liam is gonna want to be with her now! The apple sure doesnt fall far from the tree!
You're willing to steal a Man....um steffy, you are the queen of stealing men.
Brooke is the Queen of stealing men....Not Steffy
@@leahl.2812 stealing Ridge from Brooke was Taylor first and Steffy is like her mother she did the same with the help from Bill and Taylor with the help from Stephanie sen.
And adult men's made her own choices steal a man or woman is not a choice.
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If Liam isn't a possession how could Hope possibly "steal" him?
If that's what you're claiming, then the same thing can be said about Steffy.
@@sarahcorbo3659 Steffy is the one who made a point of saying he wasn't a possession!
@@clairelally3644 No matter which said it, it still goes both ways
What about Ivy
Those messages were not for hope but for Emma and also its zoe Xander ex girlfriend using Sally laptop to make those threats to emma
Steffy ls mature I like it very clam l think Steffy being a mother has brought change in her
Hope is a homewrecker
Just like her mama
Really steffy was the homewrecker and she recked her on home by sleeping with the boy father
Definitely her
Steffy is unbelievable! When she was pregnant she used the baby as a weapon to guilt Liam into forgiving her for an horrible betrayal, she kept saying that the baby needed bother mom and dad and bla bla. And now she's expecting Hope to step out? Hope's baby deserves both mom and dad under the same roof as well. Steffy and Ridge are so egoistic, because they know that what Steffy did with Bill is unforgivable
I sill think that Liam belongs with Staffy
He does
@@nataliearreola6361 I don't think this marriage to Finn will last. I'm sorry and I still think Hayes is Liam's child.
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@@nataliearreola6361 And I can't wait till everyone finds out. I know Hope will catch a heart attack.
@@RealTalk1411 I really don't want hope to have any children. I wish they would DNA test Beth and find out she is not hope's baby. Anything. Declaring hope sterile could be interesting too
Hope and Brooke are the MOST selfish characters. It’s RIDICULOUS!!!
Brooke ok but hope is the one for him
No hope deserves better he has hurt that girl too many times
Hope is so hateful and fans say she is nice
Hateful towards Steffy since Steffy and Bill sabotaged Liam and Hope's future.
How is she hateful?
I still think that Door Hope’s child is not Liam’s, I don’t know you but I don’t feel him. There is an episode where Hope goes out for lunch with her mom and a guy watches her. Between this episode and the one where Liam and Hope sleep together, he knows how to spend a few days. I think Hope had someone in the meantime forget her problems and that she got pregnant. Even if Hope and Liam are together with Beth and Douglas for now, the truth will be there. I think there is time for that, Bell, and one day it will be too late and Liam will have lost Steffy.
Hanan I think steffy child is Bill! Truth will come out soon
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Sorry but I think you are wrong. Bell himself confirms it, Kelly is indeed Liam's daughter. Even when Kelly was born, doctors found him far advanced on his premature birth. This proves that she was already on the way when Steffy had cheated on Liam. For Hope, there is a gap between when the guy looked at her at lunch and when she is Liam sleeping together. To see in the long term. For now, Bell is still tiring us of the cheating Brooke and Bill did during Thomas' fake marriage. These two are the worst hypocrites I've ever seen.
Sleeping around is Steffy's style, not Hope's.
@@clairelally3644 So sleeping with Liam at the time even if he was married to Steffy before his divorce, kissing a vulnerable man still married to his wife for you is stylish. You have a definition of respect only in a sense. I'm not going to downplay Steffy's actions or say that she did nothing. But recognize that Hope is not innocent either. It's easy to judge Steffy, but on numerous occasions, Hope had the choice to marry Liam even when Steffy was in Paris but she finally found better rather an excuse. Steffy took responsibility for it in front of Hope, years ago. But Liam and Hope are also responsible for their disasters. The difference in Hope and Steffy is that Steffy takes responsibility for his actions and responsibilities while Hope judges everyone non-stop.
@@Hanan2806 I think you are misunderstanding the context in which I used the term "style." Regardless, Hope has never done anything like what Steffy did. Kissing and sleeping with a separated man is a far cry from bedding your father-in-law after one night away from your husband and then going home and renewing your wedding vows! As for everything else, if Steffy truly accepted responsibility for her actions she would have accepted their consequences. By that I mean she should have accepted that her first marriage to Liam was a fraud, signed the annulment papers and moved. But no, she continued to torture Hope. Just as she had to tag along with them on their trip to Italy. Just as she had to make out with Liam in Hope's bed when Hope failed to appear at the chapel. Just as she had to take Liam out and get him drunk the night before their wedding. Just as she had to show up at their wedding to tell him that she could now have a baby. That's the only reason that they didn't get married while she was away!
This attitude is why episode 8000 was karma
Yes, because being upfront and honest about your feelings for the father of your child is really deserving of having your baby stolen!
@@clairelally3644 that ATTITUDE.
@@nataliearreola6361 Oh please! Like Steffy has never made herself out to be morally superior.
@@clairelally3644 yesterday was also needed karma for hope.
@@nataliearreola6361 Karma for what?
Why do both Steffy and Hope act like Liam is an inanimate object that they can hand back and forth to each other? He is a person. A person who clearly has issues making up his mind that’s true but still. He should be the one to choose the life he wants.
If I were Steffy I would let Liam go. Because of the fact he’s so conflicted I think means he wants to be with Hope. Steffy didn’t deserve that and Kelly didn’t deserve that.
Steffy is just like her mother Taylor using her body and her looks and her baby to trap a man Liam was in love with hope Steffy interfere without using her body to get Bill to give her what she wants
No stephy and Liam are back together for ever always not hope and Liam stephy and Liam are married
Liam you’re pouting about making a decision to which family you want to be with and yet you wouldn’t be in this situation if you use protection dummy
Steffi was wrong she expected be completely forgiven after she had a sex with Bill Williams father and had a baby by him Kelly is Bill's child not Liam's hope is the only one that has children with Liam she will get pregnant again by Liam
Hope👎👎👎👎👎👎👎Liam 😡😡😡😡😡👎👎👎👎👎
I don't think so hope
Such a liar Hope.All you did was put yourself in the middle of Liam and Steffy
Omg the story repeat it self Taylor and Brooks
Now Sheffie an hope please stop this nonsens find hope somebody and Liam docent know what he wants who lives with someone and then dosent know what to do PLEASE stop it getting boring
Right
Steffie is so insecure when it comes to Liam she is now threatening Hope because Hope is pregnant with Liam’s child. Why? Hope didn’t deliberately get pregnant. Hope and Liam were engaged and they made love 💕. Face it Steffie Hope is not a threat to you if anything you’re a threat to yourself.
so she "accidentally" got pregnant right before steffi gave birth.. yeah right
Steffy is better iff without Liam anyway.
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Steffy fithing for nothing beacons is liam is not his father child she manipulating liam trouble make steffy
What is beacons? And btw the writers and Scott Clifton already said that Liam is the father of Kelly!
Is not liam is child is bill specer child steffy u no baby make u manipulation hope and liam over and over steffy back of
Steffie think that she's better dan Hope!
But she is tho 🙃
Better at sleeping with Bill
I’m really beginning to hate Steffy
Dont ferget hope and liam were first until all the tricks steffy and bill pulled to get liam even though she knew he loved hope
Liam was bring in for Steffy character after the chemistry test with JMW and SC
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Well say what you want but you will not see Hope having an affair with Bill. She is nothing like Brooke. She have a right to want the best for her baby. Every time you look around Steffy and Bill was doing something stupid to them. Hope fans don't have to say anything because all you all have to do is look in the rear view 🪞 at Steffy behavior.
get over it!
Steffi is always selfish... In all the mattres
And Steffy Wants A Future With The Father Of Her Child Bratt
Robin Deas hope wants a future with the father of her child
Neither of them have a more deserving child, but Hope certainly is more deserving of a life with Liam given the fact that she always been loyal and faithful to him. Meanwhile Steffy bedded her father-in-law!
@@clairelally3644 Hope got pregnant by her brother-in-law and Hope married Steffy's brother Thomas. Hope hasn't been faithful to Liam considering she married Liam's and Steffys brothers.
Liam sure as heck hasn't been loyal to Hope considering Liam keeps sticking his peen into Hope's stepsister and Liam keeps marrying Hope's stepsister and Liam keeps impregnating Hope's Stepsister ... They just showed a rerun of Hope running off yet again with Wyatt while Liam settles for Ivy.
@@folikusgu2972 Hope wasn't with Liam either time that those things happened! She certainly didn't have a ring on her finger when she slept with Wyatt. And she sure as hell has never bedded Liam's father!
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The only reason Hope didn't sleep with Liam while married to Wyatt is because she was pregnant with Wyatt's baby but before then Hope was ready to bed Liam. Hope slept with Liam while still married to Thomas. The only reason Hope hasn't slept with daddy in-law is cause he hates her guts.
See wat I mean Stef trying to control too much. Hope is the best
Hope is such a neeeerrrrddd
Staffy you need to stop acting so holy then I'll then you just sleep with the father a few episodes back and you want to talk about hope and Liam create a child out of love you and Bill created your child lust and love