Disney Makes Darth Vader An Idiot!
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2022
- Darth Vader is the next character to be destroyed by Disney. It was only a matter of time.
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The Obi-Wan Kenobi show really has it all. Utter stupidity. Obi-Wan looking pathetic. Darth Vader looking pathetic. A couple of good moments, I know, I don’t believe it either. And huge, galaxy breaking, plot holes that destroy the Original Trilogy. This episode's huge story plot hole has to be seen to be believed. You could say, it’s the perfect example of modern Hollywood.
Let’s talk about the disaster that is Obi Wan Kenobi episode 3
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Imagine if Top Gun Maverick team got to do Darth Vader…most iconic villain of all time. And Obi-Wan. In which the hero is the hero. And the villain is the villain. Epic! Or the John Wick team handled it. Not Disney Princess Factory.
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They mostly hate the old stories. Thus why they subverted the characters when they did: The ones that genuinely love Star Wars want to honor what came before, and the ones that want to push the agenda hate what came before and want to tear down the ones they see as being the old guard in favor of their own creations.
@@rbu2136 That is two awesome ideas that also make me very sad 👍
I don't get how everyone is saying that Disney isn't consistant in writing, when they're writing consistantly crappy stories.
Rogue one?
@@ic0nic707 True. Exception confirms the rule ;)
@@ic0nic707 Which retroactively made Darth Vader an idiot.
Rogue One, he's slicing and dicing with a laser focus on one thing, then for some reason he immediately turns around in New Hope to let the Stormtroopers do the hard part while he just waits to enter until everything is already over.
I don't care how much people rave about that scene, it doesn't work when you put it side-by-side with what comes immediately after.
@@SpaceJawa I wouldn’t quite say he’s an idiot for that, that is a pretty small thing.
@@SpaceJawa Doesn't really matter, the ship is boarded, the rebels aren't going anywhere.
"Disney Makes Darth Vader An Idiot!"
To be fair, Disney makes everyone in Star Wars an idiot.
Well, except for FN-2199 and those two stormtroopers who walked away after hearing Kylo throwing a fit. Three non-idiots out of the whole bad fanfic is... Probably not the worst record out there.
Every male*
Only in Star Wars?
Only the men
Disney makes Disney an idiot. They put woke disclaimers on their own movies.
“I am what you made me” - Vader
“You didn’t kill Anakin, I did” - Also Vader
Yeah because it's not like Vader might have been talking about his obi wan trained him then cut off his limbs and left him to burn. No he totally meant that obi wan killed Anakin even though that doesn't even make sense
Vader sounded like Bane from Batman
@James john But Obi Wan wasn't harassing Vader, he was harassing Anakin. "I am the thing that didn't exist until after you did what you did but I did it!"
@James john Obi Wans constant doubt and nagging helped create the rage that is Vader? You don't think Palpatine had anything to do with it?
@@acesw6124 LMAOOO
It would have been interesting for Leia to be a prissy empire loving little girl but through all the hardships she sees in this journey it plants the seeds of her understanding that the empire isn’t great and hurts people. Writers do not understand character development.
they just understad one simple rule: deminish everything that has a male pronoun and expecto people to leve the female empowered characters. Thats about it.
@@rochristy1401 It sounds like they took stupid pills or something. I hate this shallow, bizarro universe Disney and Paramount have created for Star Wars and Star Trek where only the female characters are strong and intelligent and almost force us to like them.
It's actually depressing to think about all the effort that Disney has put into ruining this franchise.
And yet there are people who still enjoy it for some reason. They'll only change when they start losing money.
*improving this franchise
Disney destroyed Star Wars when they got there hands on it.
@@Tokzic67 💀💀💀
@@reaper4453 I know its a terrible opinion lmao. I think the sequels have some bad writing, but they are really good visually.
Disney has definitely forgotten about how anger, fear, and hate all lead to the dark side. Just look at Rey--how many times does she get incredibly angry, screaming in rage, with no consequences?
Also, I never noticed this but, why does Leia know she's adopted? Why would Bail or anyone that knew the truth tell her that?
I think it's because her parents are prominent political figures. It probably wasn't a secret that she was adopted. IMO it makes sense because people probably would question how they suddenly have a child without the wife being pregnant. As for how she knows, idk maybe she figured it out? She is a smart kid...
This is my head canon anyway
I doubt that a famous politican could believably explain how his wife has given birth all of a sudden when everyone had seen that she was never pregnant, assuming his wife is also a public figure.
@@omma911 extracorporal pregnancy? Wealthy people could afford it, and somebody like caminoans could provide such services. Basically, extract a fertilized egg-cell from the woman and put it into the cloning tank. I recon, with technological level of Star Wars such procedure would be quite popular among wealthy people, aspecially as it allows to avoid discomfort and riscs of pregnancy.
Well the first clue she got was from her cousin telling her she wasn’t a real organa, then she met obi wan I forgot what he said but she asked him you knew my father didn’t you? And then he saw her pain because she was feeling like she didn’t belong a little Bit so he told her the gifts and qualities she has from both her biological parents. She was happy with just knowing that so She told him he didn’t have to tell her anymore then she looked at her foster parents and smiled
Leia desevres to know shes Adopted and i feel most Children should
I think Disney is gonna get to a point where they uncanonize the original trilogy and replace it for something with the quality of the sequels.
Yep, they would hire such a diverse cast for it too. They would make Vader a woman, Luke a black guy, Leia a feminists who basically takes Lukes role, and everyone else is either a black guy, gay guy, black girl, feminist, Lesbian, Transgender, Non binary, or very Fat. And the only masculine males would be very very toxic and turn out to be controlling and lying to Vader.
I think they actually painted themselves in to a corner by having the original trilogy actors in the sequel trilogy and the TV shows. If they'd bought Lucasfilm now, they would have rebooted the whole thing as a "less problematic" version. But they messed up by connecting The Force Awakens to the old film. It ties their hands as to what they can do. Hence why we get stuff like this where they try to retcon Leia's prominence in the entire saga. If you can't remake the trilogy then make prequels that re-frame your perspective on events.
@@luisr0987 I can’t imagine being a woman.
@@luisr0987 bro you do not have a problem with how the show is written. you have a problem with race and i suggest you get it checked out before it lands you in hot water
@@wrlds.planet the amount of diversity and woke politics in the show tends to correlate with how the show is written and directed. What else would you expect when you hire activists instead of actual actors, writers, and directors
i think the thing that pisses me off the most in this episode is the first time we see Kenobi ignite his lightsaber is out of fear, not in order to protect Leia, not to finally giving in to Vader torturing innocents, but because he got jump scared by a loud noise.
Yes they butchered him
So his fear led to your anger
C'mon that little girl is awful..
I'm so sick of little kids knowing everything. That is not how kids are, what's the point of growing up if we're all born brilliant and have nowhere to go but down?
I was lucky to get food in my mouth at that age
For real, but this shit is what sells unfortunately, was talking about the show with a friend and he and his gf thought leia was cute, i think she was fucking annoying and lore breaking but oh well
When the little kid is more confident and less cowardly than the life long Jedi and veteran of many battles and planets, something doesn’t add up
Honestly, what else did you expect? Disney star wars gave us a "girl power" Mary Sue whose powers regularly increase in each movie.
Excellent point, & I was immediately aggravated by this.
Disney is actually impressive in its ability to turn one of the most memorable and fear inspiring antagonists in cinematic history into just another "generic bad guy" that messes up in ways that even you or I would handle better. All in the name of promoting shitty new characters that seem like they were written by a child...
Is it just me or did his suit also look like a cheap replica idk just looked weird
@@chrisquinn3377 It'sAGundam authistically dissected Darth Vaders bad cosplay in one of his videos xd
@@chrisquinn3377 doesn't look cheap to me tbh. I really love how clean and new the suit looks, even compared to the other suits he's had before.
I hate how Obi-Wan could overpower him with the Force, when Vader is suppose to be way more powerful than him. What's the point of Luke being the new hope then ? They don't need him, get the Jedi survivor together and destroy the empire, who's going to stop them ? Stormtroopers? Its now canon that they can't hit sh**
@@Hanoua2 I do see what you are saying there, and I do agree that Obi Wan did overpower him, but I'll be honest with you, I was happy to see Obi Wan being connecting himself back to the force again, especially since he was a lot weaker force level wise before.
Plus, he did catch Vader off guard, and went for a much more aggressive maneuverer against him after rising from the giant rock pile Vader trapped him under.
The stormtrooper on the transport scene is a great example of how they really couldn’t have given this script any thought at all. It would be so simple to write it so those particular stormtroopers weren’t assigned to look for the Jedi, that they were doing something else. You’d still have tension until that’s revealed or maybe you don’t even reveal it at all. But this show seems to go out of its way to raise basic questions that are never addressed, let alone answered. Like how they’ve treated Star Wars since they bought it, it feels like the people responsible for one installment are not given the full details about the other installments. When you show in the previous episode that there are images of Obi Wan floating around to people trying to capture him, the audience is going to note that and then wonder how others can’t recognize him later on. This is so basic that I really can’t imagine that anyone who was aware of the previous episode would write it like this on purpose. It’s like they assigned different people to each episode and only gave them the most basic description of the overall story.
It's funny how many people said "Vader was cool in this show because of how evil he was" Vader is cold, calculated, a murderer, and a manipulator, all is viewed as evil but to him it's a means to an end for power, vader doesn't kill indiscriminately or torture out of anger, his anger was controlled after it was his downfall against obi-wan. He can actively use his emotions to gain power without the caveat of an unclear mind, that is the power of the dark side.
Vader does kill out of anger, all the time, if you annoy him he's likely to kill you, he's killed people for seeing his face, and was willing to do so because someone stole his cape after a medical procedure, Vader is emotional, he just has all that underneath a layer of coldness, but under that he wants nothing more then to destoy himself and his legacy
He does kill out of anger and he does kill indiscriminately. This is cannon btw.
@calebbarnhouse496 The depiction in the movies contradicts your claim, I'm going off the OT and nothing more, not even the prequels as anakin is nothing like vader Even the EU books took liberties, much less than disney, but the original movies is still Star Wars' bible.
@@Banana.69699 that's a claim, please. Back it up.
I just remembered something. When Leia calls Obi-Wan for help in Episode 4 she says he served her father years ago during the Clone Wars (which technically is true) but it never sounded like she new him personally (because she didn't). If she called an old friend for help don't you think she'd say something like "remember the old times? That's exactly why I need you"?
It’s so funny seeing some Star Wars/Disney shills saying that Obi-Wan asking Leia to keep what happened a secret somehow makes the original trilogy better. They could literally be shown shit for 8hrs and they’d say it’s a fucking masterpiece.
she also doesn't seem to care much when he dies. She comforts Luke about it but she seems unphased by his loss.
Strange when the show is presenting him and Leia as closely connected while he spends very little time with Luke, who is deeply saddened by his death.
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I didn’t watch the whole show, but didn’t they try to get away with it by her only knowing him as “Ben”? Which is why she named her son Ben… (yikes)
@@zanfear they actually even forgot about that towards the end and had Leia calling him Obi-Wan in the last 2 episodes...
This show is a nostalgia bukkake for people with room temperature IQ. Look at everybody defending it and you’ll know it to be true.
Perfect comment 👍
I have a Mensa confirmed 145 IQ and I enjoyed it. So you’re quite wrong.
I searched my feelings...
They told me that these shows are giant piles of shit and only use these existing properties for cash grabs.
You don't remember the shakey Cam in the original trilogy
This show was terrible and not even by accident. I think they went out of their way to make Kenobi look bad, in his own show for crying out loud.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Obi-wan and Vader supposed to meet on the death star for the first time since the third film?
Nothing saying they can't met again the line Vader says is pretty broad.
@@rannenw6207 no it isn't. If they met like displayed in this show, Vader wouldn't be the learner.
The Kenobi show is like a friend you wanna defend but they do so much dumb shit you can't keep defending them.
Disney already succeed at ruining Vader by making his entire story built up in the first six films a total joke thanks to their garbage Sequels. Chop that up with wiping out his entire family bloodline and having his name stolen by the granddaughter of the man he died in vain to destroy.
Wow - when you put it that way, the entire SW saga seems pointless.
@@ryantrudell4686 It is. It's largely the reason I see little to absoutley no point in investing in anything set in either the Original or Prequel timelines (at least within the Disney continuity). Luke and Anakin no longer matter (which ironically also makes Obi-Wan more or less pointless as well considering he was their teacher). According to the Sequels they accomplished absoutely nothing in the long run and their entire bloodline is wiped clean from the galaxy by the end of Episode IX. The true saviour of the Star Wars story was some bullshit overpowered boring ass Mary Sue est fan-fic character born 30 or so years after the first two trilogies who ended up being a Palpatine.
Don’t care anything Disney isn’t canon it’s just shit fan fiction
Finally someone mentions The Path. The fact that there are numerous force sensitive younglings destroys the character of any Jedi that is alive during the empire because they should have been training the younglings this entire time.
Most Jedi opted out of training another order. In the fallen order game cal has a vision of training a new order but it only ends in the order being destroyed and cal turning evil
ok crybaby
@@ultradeathboy So the Jedi are too pussy, is what you're saying? That's rather contrary to what it means to be a Jedi.
@@ultradeathboy Cal's plans for an Order were destined to fail because he was only able to undertake it mostly alone. The issue was never inherent to a Jedi Order, it was that Cal had no way of easily contacting the people needed to make it work.
If I ran for political office completely by myself, I'm not going to win. If I could contact other people with similar goals and politics, get us all working together, and then launch a campaign, I just might stand a chance.
The Path solves this issue. You have hundreds (if not more) Jedi who are now in contact, and thus could get on the same page and make a group effort, thus succeeding. Dealing with one Jedi and his padawans is one thing, dealing with 500 Jedi masters and their padawans is something else entirely.
Also, before anyone says a new Jedi Order of this size would simply be caught and cut down in its infancy - is The Path itself any less of an issue for the Empire? Yet the Path is evidentially able to remain hidden, so why couldn't a small-ish but unified new Jedi Order with the exact same resources the Path currently has?
Could be cool, maybe they could be estranged jedi who flock to Luke after the empire is defeated in 6...
Oh wait, the sequels already ruined that... nevermind. 😔
It really is amazing just how much potential world-building that JarJar and Ruin destroyed, isn't it?
I have watched almost every piece of Star Wars media until this show. I couldn’t make it past the third episode. It physically hurt me to watch my favorite universe and one of my favorite characters be butchered like this. I am furious with Disney for doing this.
I also couldn't make it past the third episode. I felt no anger, though. At this point I am just past the "Bargaining" stage of grief when it comes to the franchise.
Did Disney hurt your little feelings? Did you cry out in your mother's sheet?
@Newsbender II for real right
andor is a breath of fresh air, give it a shot
@Newsbender II im sorry you feel that way, andor is genuinely something i look forward to every wednesday. it doesn’t feel like a disney show, it’s had a completely different vibe to it throughout all 8 episodes. this is coming from someone who absolutely despised kenobi and book of boba fett, and at best tolerating mandalorian season 2
You hit the nail on the head. The thing that shits me off is that Leia is literally a marked man in this series; she's linked to Obi Wan and there's no way in the universe that Darth Vader wouldn't use that to get to Obi Wan; he would literally pursue her and her family to the ends of the galaxy to get to him. But for some stupid reason, The Emperor tells him to let it go, and he just does.
The Emperor might as well have said "stop going after Kenobi because we need this inconsistent plot to be consistent with the original trilogy."
@@garym6315 Except for anything that is in character or out-of-character for the people guaranteed to survive into the original trilogy.
You know, my friend was saying he hopes Firefly gets renewed through Disney. I nearly threw up. Please god, no.
Tf is firefly?
Oh jesus, fuck no, Disney Firefly will be horrible. Nononono.
@@ultradeathboy Western in spaaaaace!
It's from the early 2000s.
Check it out, you'll love it.
I'm actually glad Firefly got cancelled when it did. Joss Whedon would've screwed it up, somehow, eventually. It's better that we didn't get a single bad episode. It's all good, including the movie. :)
Although, I would love to have seen a second movie with Saffron taking over Wash's role as Serenity's pilot. I think a change like that would've been needed to add an interesting layer of conflict to a second movie. Otherwise, it's better that there's only one movie. There would have to be an interesting element to a second movie, or it would just be like the second Downton Abbey movie: It's fun to see the characters again, but the movie is ultimately uninteresting and unnecessary and only spoils where the previous movie ended the story.
@@G360LIVE Fully agreed.
The lack of any more Firefly stung a bit, years ago.
But ultimately, it was for the better. It ended before anyone could run it into the ground. Another season, or another movie, might have done it in and ruined it forever. So much evidence of that happening recently.
Now it is crystallized in time, forever perfect :D
Darth Vader in the OT was a badass!
Darth Vader in Obi Wan is complete Loser!
Seriously it's like Kathleen Kennedy likes making men characters pathetic losers.
It's not like she enjoys it, she dose and has been blatantly vocal about it.
That’s their goal always has been the first thing she did when they acquired Star War was say the force is female
Trust me, that is precisely what that woman lives & breathes for these days. Sadly enough. She could have been rich & admired for doing what she promised Lucas to his face; protect SW & all the characters in it & continue their story with respect & care. Instead she will be remembered as the one that destroyed SW. She is building herself a legacy, alright, but it's not a positive one, the kind you want after you're gone.
@@youremad5230 so how did shmi get pregnant?
@@Despafrfr Darth Plaguis. Look it up.
They might as well have had young Leia defeat both Reva and Vader with Yoda's light saber then use Force Heal on them, the strain of which causes her to fall into a coma after which she experiences acute memory loss related to the events of the series if they wanted to play this fast and lose with continuity.
The whole time I was watching this series I kept thinking to myself "Well that doesn't align with the OT" over and over again. The content is all there for them. You would think this would be difficult to jack up but man do they do it. I do not understand how anyone can defend these shows that Disney is carelessly pumping out. I was so hopeful for Disney Star Wars before they released the Force Awakens. It is truly devastating what they have done to my favorite universe. Love your videos Robot Head! I always send your videos to people whenever I don't feel like explaining why they are wrong myself! Cheers!
Some of it connected to the OT some of it didn't. Force awakens wasn't even that bad to be honest. And plenty of shows have been great this one is just a bad example
@@ultradeathboy The Force Awakens brougth many problems that the next movies could not fix. For a lot of people, this film was just bad. Indeed, The Force Awakens was just made to revive Star Wars with new heroes, but it achieves it only with an overdose of nostalgia, not with a good story.
The force awakens was good, but it was just a copy of A New Hope
Kenobi is probably the last Disney Star Wars (TM) show I have the patience to watch. If I wanted comically bad sci-fi shows I’d renew my cable CW subscription
I put my last hope on bad batch season 2 (no idea why) and andor tv series
if those two are shit as well...
ill go back to legends
that's a super low blow 🤣
@@H-H777 Agreed.
At least the CW sci fi was conceptually interesting and original, even if it was cheap, and crapped the bed in execution.
@@isaiahsmith7123 have you seen the flash recently?
I can’t fully express why, but the feeling of terror and exhilaration that I get from seeing Darth Vader on screen was completely and utterly missing from this show. I don’t know how Disney continues to misuse the best characters in the Star Wars IP. Truly baffling.
He got the Thanos treatment. More powerful, yet less intimidating.
he lacks grandeur, there's no real weight to his presence in this series, the scenes i ever liked was his first initial 'suit up' scene and him killing civilians, but in this show Vader is so... underwhelming, i think its the cinematography, the Ai voice acting, the overall script and just the realization that's basically a dumb down villain who "has to let the good guys get away" in order for there to be another episode, i think its the 4th time i've watched Vader staring at a ship full of characters fly away... again.
at this point, Homelander from The Boys is more interesting... not some Disney jingle keys.
@@starbolt0636 Thanos was pretty terrifying in Infinity War.
@@chasehedges6775 Absolutely! Very intimidating and well-established at first. Then, Endgame deflated him.
lmao Darth Vader was never terrifying in any movie or show besides his few minutes in Rouge One.
This show didn't just turn Vader into a joke, but the Empire as a whole. I just completely lost it when they went in the extra mile of making a 'trophy room' for dead Jedi. They even put the corpse of a youngling in there just to really drive in the point that "these guys are evil in case you didn't know!" And it has all the subtlety and nuance of a sledgehammer hitting you right in the face.
Obi-Wan Kenobi must take place in an entirely different canon, or an entirely different universe from the original six movies and Andor.
"That boy is our last hope."
'No, there is another.'
"Oh ya, duh... I totally forgot about her, even though I spent all that time with her. Damn I'm so dumb!"
Isn’t it amazing how that desolate desert planet looks NOTHING like the American Southwest? WOW DISNEY!
With some flag and a couple of cosplayer in Stormtroopers costume here and there
Lol. Yeah I immediately thought "oh, New Mexico!" when I saw it in RH's video (didn't watch the show, thankfully it seems) since I lived there for a bunch of years.
@@Hanoua2 it's like they put zero effort into making actually interesting worlds and concepts. Say what you want about the prequels but every planet was unique and never boring. Every character and extra just looks like a cosplayer in every Disney Star Wars creation
@@danielloader3351 Say what you want about the prequels? You mean "They're fan-fucking-tastic" ?
@@MrZackavelli yes, yes they are
I'm really starting to get tired of the "jedi hiding from the empire but still doing good stuff" trope. We have so many of these stories now, it's no longer as if the entire jedi order was wiped out with order 66. It feels like it was just the council and a couple younglings.
"That boy is our last hope."
"No, there is another. And the ginger kid. And Grogu. And Ahsoka. And master Junda. And some of the inquisitors can be turned back. And that other jedi you met a few years back. And that kid from bad batch. Somehow, Master Mundi returned."
Ki adi mundi dead tho
Wait, are you serious about that last one?
"You should have gone for the second heart."
@@ultradeathboy So was Palpatine.
@@zacharyrollick6169 No, but it wouldn't surprise me at this point.
Exactly. Having other Jedi around only ruins the fact that the Jedi are in their final, desperate hour, and once Obi-Wan and Yoda are dead, as Yoda said to Luke, "The last of the Jedi will you be." So, the stakes are seriously high when Luke confronts Vader and the Emperor, because if Luke loses, the Jedi are gone. But since Luke wins, it feels like the Jedi are about to come back from near extinction.
"We might actually get something good." This really is the problem. Everything else is secondary. Until audiences start rejecting bad films and television instead of defending it, it's just going to get worse and worse. Why bother with the effort needed to do something well if you can do it half-assed and sell it just as easily? The only reason Disney would ever even consider putting out quality content again is if audiences demanded it. And they won't.
You have to watch (or have spoiled to you) the content to determine whether to reject it, so there's a catch 22. Disney gets their money before we can decide whether to give them our money/time. Unless fans overwhelmingly outright reject all SW content, the cycle will continue.
So much shit these days resident evil and halo and Star Wars lord of the rings and more. What do we have that’s good the breaking bad series /anime /The Witcher is somewhat acceptable but a lot of the characters look nothing like characters in the game we have black elves for no reason it’s hard to take it seriously but it’s not as bad as the lord of rings from Amazon
@@Maehlice I agree. My own policy is that I don't watch. If someday I start hearing that they've started doing something worthwhile to win back the fans, I might consider it, but meantime I'm not paying for the chance they might do something good when they haven't given me any reason to think they will. It's only when they start losing money that they're realize something has to change.
"Send! Out! The probes! Do it! Now!"
I love how Reeva reminds you, not of that commanding officer you always respected, but of that friend's girlfriend who you always prayed you'd run into as little as possible.
What bothers me most is that the original script was actually a lot better, and it was supposed to be a cinematic movie trilogy, so much potential, reva was supposed to die, obi wan was gonna go to Mustifar, and more Vader would be in it since it would be a movie trilogy. so much potential wasted.
They panicked when Solo lost money so we ended up with this crap 👍
Kennedy didn't want to give the honor of the silver screen to an OG character, so she made sure he was petulantly relegated to "TV series"
A *TRILOGY* ?? Ok, we dont need that. A full movie would have done it well
And Cody was going to be in it.
@@TheBrickGuy7939 yea, like why did they have to change the story, like why
There was actually a third option Vader could have used to get through the fire at Obi-Wan.......
And it would have been the coolest thing that could have happened. Vader's suit is fireproof. He lives on a lava planet for fucksake! Imagine how cool it would have been to see him walk through the fire! 👀
Yes, his cape could have burned up but the rest of his armor should have been fine.
But of course, the writers of the show never read the comics. Even those written under Disney.
His cape is resistant to fire, lava, and even blaster bolts
Yeah also could have been somewhat symbolic
After obi wan burned him he can no longer burn and what now hurts obi wan the is he immune to due to obi WANs own actions
That would have been such an incredible moment of visual storytelling! There are too many missed opportunities in disney star wars to process. It's like they * want * to ruin the entire brand
He wanted to let KENOBI go to give him a proper rematch. Not the best writing I know but at least it's an explanation
This requires imagination and commitment, we have not seen those in any ST project Kennedy is involved, except Rogue One
Hayden and Ewan seemed like the only two people who had any passion for this travesty. It was a joy to watch them act against each other again, even if the writing and dialogue was terrible. Their performances were the only thing I liked in this series, although that's probably just the memberberries kicking in...
Yes
Honestly I just don’t want to bash another Hayden project.
I’m just glad he is appreciated again even if it isn’t quite up to par with what he deserves.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman I liked jumper a lot.
Thank you for confirming everything I was thinking while watching this show.
They totally fucked my favorite character. They understand nothing about this franchise. It's not about being overly serious about Star Wars, it's about having zero expectations and still being disappointed. The writing is akin to a middle school play.
exactly. Disney at this point seems to be trying to make shitty stories. and just when you think, 'hey, this is their chance to make something we'll love' all they do is ruin the characters we love and create the most bland and nonsensical story imaginable
The only reason I appreciate (on some small level) that the Kenobi series exists--to listen to Robot Head and other UA-camrs break down JUST HOW STUPID this story is. I was literally laughing at my television when the stormtroopers said they were looking "for a Jedi," but had zero additional information, when just an episode before, Reva texted a freakin' image of Kenobi to random bounty hunters. And the fire scene...dear Lord! This is fan fiction at its worst...but it is hilarious!
And if you try to defend it by saying they DID have pictures and names but just didn't said it out loud. It makes the stormtroopers even MORE incompetent because he was sitting there right in front of them with a child
Disney doesn't care *why* you watch it, as long as you watch. They're probably happier churning out dumpster fire crap, as it takes less effort to produce and they're confident the brand name will bring in the large number of views
It was explained that Vader COULD'VE just went after Kenobi. But wanted Kenobi to give him a proper fight because the fight he gave him bright before was disappointing to him
If you listen to these people then even if Disney improves you won't enjoy any of it, these UA-camrs will shit all over everything Disney make regardless if the quality, it's how they make their money.
The fandom menace used to be a good thing, someone needed to speak out on behalf of fans about the God awful sequel trilogy and its politics, but these days the fandom menace is as twisted as the SJWs and Reylos they oppose, and they both suffer from chronic confirmation bias.
Disney's Star Wars TV shows are flawed, there's no doubt about that but they're far more enjoyable when you stop listening to the likes of Robot Head, Geeks and Gamers and the other joy vampires who suck the fun out of everything. I clicked on this video for the comments and they were what I expected, people mindlessly agreeing with the video just as they did with Redlettermedia when he shit all over the prequels.
Judge things for yourself and stop listening to these miserable creatures.
@@JimUK, ahhh. The target audience speaks! It’s horrid writing, painful acting and many degrees lower than what it could have been. Disneys business plan is also to make money by appealing to as many people as possible, the lowest common denominator. It makes all their shows bland and soulless.
Obi wan: I can take on a whole platoon of stormtroopers because I’m so experienced and skilled
Also obi wan: yeah there’s three there too scary for me
Also note that they were type b stormtroopers. Obi scared of strong whamen.
they coulda fixed this with some lines. imagine if vader said "you have closed your mind from the force.. you feel.. weak.."
GODDAMNIT THIS SHOW COULDA BEEN SO GOOD IF PEOPLE WHO CARED ABOUT STAR WARS WERE WRITING IT
@@johnnyboro9558 That's the case every time, if the writers cared but nope. That extends to any franchise. Looking at rings of Power and house of dragon, they'll fail spectacularly.
Let's be real Kathleen Kenedy is telling the writers to write a crappy script
They also managed to somehow make him look & feel completely un-cinematic, which I never thought was possible.
If you take all the rules of cinematography and carefully throw every single one out the window, you can make any character look uncinematic on screen.
I mean, it's not easy, but with the right people and the right techniques, it can be done.
@@cykeok3525 well, unfortunately for every character on _this_ show, looks like they did have the right people to achieve it.
The gate scene was like the toll scene in Blazing Saddles where they turn around to get dimes even though there was a wide open desert around the toll booth. Except Mel Brooks knew it was dumb.
Honestly, they made him beyond stupid, they turned him into a plot device and a very stupid one at that.
Same as the bad batch , he forgets what he can and can't do:))
Vader wasnt in the bad batch. Neither was obi wan. When did the bad batch have someone forget their abilities. They show it almost all the time
You didn't get my point, in the Bad Batch more often than not the squad had special skills that the plot made them forget in order to advance the story, I've seen way to many time how Hunter just forgets he has a higher sense,Wrecker from unstopable force tuned into mr clumsy or Tech who should be the smart one ignorest key things in many episodes.
Same here one second Obi -won is "rambo" completely unstoppable while in the next he forgets what he just did and surrenders because plot. Vader too suffers from this, when the "rebels" run, the first decoy ship he rips to shreds only to let the second one go because reasons.
It just doesn't make sense how the story was structured making those characters look stupid.
you watch the Bad Batch?
lol
Just so I know to stay away from it, other series I would watch again but not this one. Nostalgia can go so far when your plot is shit, and with very few decent moments or episodes.
Here's a series to put it to shame 'Primal'.
Having seen the Clone Wars series makes this more painful. I can’t imagine that Kenobi behaving this way-and they didn’t get the original actors to play the characters!
can we also talk about how the quote from A New Hope where Vader says: "When I left you I was but the learner, but now I am the master" makes no sense now that Mustafa isn't the last time the met before that scene on the death star.
"How to make a larger than life character generic" by Lucasfilm.
By disney..you mean
I think it's unfair to say that the CGI artists or the editors didn't give a shit.
It's way more likely that they weren't given enough time.
Yea I wish people didn't say that, although I can understand the sentiment. To my understanding you can't do jobs concerning CGI, or animation by "not caring". A lot of work has to be put into doing their job well. Problem is they just don't have the time.
When you consider Marvel, Star Wars content alone they are probably under extreme time constraints. Then there's the mindset of directors thinking meh just send it to the CGI ppl they'll fix up any of my mistakes
And probably not paid enough.
@@crikeybaguette4564 then all the credit for stuff being referenced in the film is never the stunt actors or the CGI artist it's the actors.
I work as an artist for other companies. Lack of time and pay do end up in most of us not caring about the work. It's different for creative people that are part of the preproduction of these shows and movies. All the other artists, may be passionate about the project, but at the end of the day it's just another job on the list.
I’m sorry but the scene when vader ignites his lightsaber and obi wan stands there looking like he’s about to ignite his but last second just darts off screen is so fucking comical 😭😭😭
hope your channel keeps growing! love your commentaries and editing style.
Basic storytelling and writing is optional on a Disney Star Wars show or movie.
A scene full of CGI looks good? Great, nothing else matters.
This is not out Kenobi from the Prequel Trilogy, this is a fake that looks the same.
If there is a Jake Skywalker, then this is Dan Kenobi.
He is not meant to be the same obi wan from the prequels. I know the writing is garbage but fans don't understand that obi wan is a broken man after the order he blindly followed fell. That is the point. Even obi wan can only take so much
@@ultradeathboy We literally see him in RoTS post order 66 and he isn't acting like a pathetic scared little idiot. Jedi were conditioned for their entire lives not to feel emotions, especially fear. Disney just devolves every good character into a 'broken' person, which to them means deleting their entire character arc and making them useless
@@danielloader3351 Obi-Wan literally saw his master getting killed in front of him in TPM and didn’t immediately start acting rash. That’s a defining character moment for him, and they rejected it all.
The only time we saw him losing that stoic manner is when Anakin has lost to him and gets overwhelmed by emotion; seeing the young boy he raised turn against everything his order stood for and told Obi-Wan he hated him. He was borderline his son. That is why the scene hits so incredibly hard.
Disney doesn’t understand his character at all.
As soon as I read the title to this video I hit that like button and felt the world coming to an end at the same time. NOT DARTH VADER!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!
I expected this to happen eventually, I’ve been known better though and wouldn’t keep buying into Star Wars shit anymore since Reylo was introduced. I won’t support woke garbage.
"You were the chosen one! You were supposed to be a badass and an example of a well written character, not an impotent moron! You were our favorite villain, we loved you..."
for me it was the opposite when i saw the video i immidiently disliked it
@@apophis2129 still is
@@ericsoto4064 how is reylo woke. The force being female is woke but reylo is just another love story between two people who are dumb. It's like anakin and padme all over again
I’m so glad you brought up that last plot hole because I literally caught that as I was watching it and nobody else was talking about it on the Internet
this video is filled with plot holes
“ i dont like calling them writers. Its offensive tk people who can actually write” this had me dying😂😂😂
As I've been saying for awhile now, a story is only is as good as its writers and Disney is infamous for hiring the WORST out there, almost as if they only look onboard a short bus.
... what's even worse than that though is Disney also believes that these writers can only make smart new characters is if they make everyone around them look dumber than a sack of rocks.
A lot of Disney products have been great though. It's just star wars they really fial with
I mean... But they aren't exactly wrong in that last part... It doesn't mean competent writers can't but the ones they use...
It's obviously made bad on purpose. How much do you people need to see to come to this conclusion.
@@quantumofconscience6538 the money trail, I need to know how they expected to profit from tanking on purpose.
You can't write a character smarter than yourself; because you have to explain/show how that character is being smart.
So the only option for a dumb person to make a character seem smart, is by making everybody else even dumber, so they appear smarter by comparison.
You know there's a drought of competent writers in Hollywood when a company that got rich and famous for it animated masterpieces now just buys up other properties and still can't dig gold out of them.
They've taken what use to be a money printing press and have now turned it into a toilet roll dispenser. These are dark times.
It's obviously made bad on purpose. Why can't people see this?
You've managed to cover everything I didn't even think about. Other than the fact there were "no tie fighters at all" (despite a few being docked at inquisitorius and could pursue snowspeeders with ease) or Vader didn't go after Obi-wan in his personal shuttle while the grand inquisitor was left to go after "the path" with his star destroyer
I'm having flashbacks to the scene of the toll booth in the middle of the desert in Blazing Saddles. 😆😂🤣
I know that a lot of people like how powerful Vader is in the show, but I honestly kind of dislike it. It’s so over-the-top; it’s like I’m watching the live action equivalent of a cartoon.
interesting you say that. I had a whole section on the same thing but decided it could be it's own video
@@RobotHead a video on the new Disney Star Wars power scaling would be real nice👌
Especially his breakdancing sped-up evasive movements when Reva turns on him. Now I know how the Disney writers will justify this. See he is more machine now than man and a machine that is strong with the force is capable of such precision with its movements.
To be honest, this is probably the most anger he ever experienced. He finally faces the man that from his perspective, lost him his wife, children and human body. And anger fuels the dark side. So actually, I really like how they show the theoretically unlimited power of the dark side. I just wished they would balance it with controlled mastery on Obiwans behalf and not this skittish running away
Ok so how about an example of what Vader scenes you think are over the top
I feel like we are approaching the death of Star Wars as a franchise, and I don’t know whether I’m relieved that it won’t suffer much longer or sad that it is passing. There aren’t too many legacy characters left for them to destroy and they couldn’t launch a new character to save their life, so where does the franchise go from here? All that’s left for Disney is to drive a lightsaber through the Old Republic’s chest and we’re done, right? Then again, I heard those aren’t lethal anymore
manbabies have been saying that Star Wars is dying for years (maybe decades), but it's still going on
So damn true
How to Destroy world famous Franchise fastest. Current record holder: Disney
Gawd there's So much wrong with the Obi-wan series it's pretty unforgivable. Like based on the money Disney claimed each episode cost, That money didn't seem to go towards the series at all.. OOF.
As a writer I am insulted by anyone having paid money to the people who 'wrote' Kenobi.
My guess is Disney used an AI writer. They just set the genre, added in some character names, put in a few scenes, and pressed a button for scene description and dialogue.
@@backalleycqc4790 No. An AI writer would not be so consistent in making the females validated narcissists while making the OC male characters whiny losers. Really that is the only through line in Disney Star Wars.
@@moseszero3281 yeah the males were real losers slicing up people and throwing giant rocks. How bout that guy that force choked so many people. What a whiney loser. Oh wait wasn't that guy in the black also a whiney loser before Disney even took charge. Damn guess not(I'm taking about Anakin btw)
And what are you a writer in exactly? Fan fiction?
@@ultradeathboy Original epic fantasy with scifi elements - its about a group of super powered immortals who are trying to recover a lost weapon to reclaim a planet. I love doing the character interactions and dialog - kinda struggle with descriptions.
I really hate the way Disney Star Wars has characters waving light sabers around all the time. It has lost all of its mystique.
I’m really glad you mentioned the tunnel, haven’t seen anyone point it out yet and it hurt my head 😂😂
There are so many departments giving this show their all, and the story group just out and about smelling the flowers and the leadership is just out to lunch it feels.
I read the Title and directly knew that this video will be amazing xD
The scenes where he talked about padme were the best
But any time reva tried to be intimidating I just laughed
Send out... The probes... Do it... Now.
Yeah, it's as if the actress thinks yelling equals intimidation. She really just doesn't have the charisma or the acting chops to pull off the Reva role. And it's not the actress' fault; it's Lucasfilm's bad casting decision.
@@G360LIVE If she did a good job, would it be her fault? Or just Lucas making a good casting decision and directing her good?
Reva on the street, PIGS!!!!!!
Reva: Don't ignore me you pigs!!!!!!!
I can’t believe I missed this upload!!
I can’t get over how dumbed down the lightsabers are in this show. Like big glowing baseball bats that don’t know if they cut or club.
Thanks for the content! I was eagerly anticipating another drop about this show from you. Keep up the good work! May the force be with you.
they no longer look the same either. They look and act more like glowsticks than deadly weapons
@@danielloader3351 i think they look pretty good, i like how they give off more light and make nearby objects glow makes them look less CGI imo but yes a bit cartoonishy glowsticky.
i hate the way the sabers bounce off things tho. they do look like nerf bats sometimes bouncing off storm trooper armor and stuff
I was literally just watching your “Stupidest Things Said about Last Jedi.” Great video + The timing for this one is immaculate!
That episode where the undercover girl who I forgot the name of managed to sneak in the inquisitor fortress and avoid 23 sure death scenarios was classic Disney at play.
The random scream at the end, really capped off the video quite nicely...LMFAO!
Here we have, a group of soldiers that wear helmets that probably would block out their voices, thus they could turn off the helmet speakers and speak internally through inter-com with eachother and their larger unit. It would've been completely within the stormtroopers' rule book to give their targets a false sense of security to then at a later point ambush them when their reinforcements arrive. Like Obi-wan could've gotten to their destination only for the stormtroopers to rise up and block their path as more and more troopers arrive. Now Obi gotta think of a genious way out that doesn't involve risking Laya's life, we make the situation more thrilling without even making the enemy dumb and even less Obi-wan... bam, that whole episode saved.
Competent Stormtroopers? I've been waiting for that for like 30 years
Why are you trying to defend this trash?
@@Hanoua2 It’s as if Disney doesn’t realize that the Stormtroopers deliberately missed their shots when Luke, Han and Leia fled so that the Empire could track them down.
It’s a real pain to see how Disney treats stormtroopers, like they’re pretty much highly trained marines
Every single time Disney pumps out a fire character and destroys him it takes a bit of my soul (not that I have any left) I’m just disappointed in the writing and not only that the show just looks dry. Not intriguing by a bit. Andor looks like it has incredible cinematography and that’s what I want in star wars on top of other things.
It means nothing if the plot ends up being nonsensical.
crazy how far this franchise has fallen
The Gate scene really bothered me way more than it should. Was the dumbest Star Wars Moment ever to me but then I started to remember the movies that my brain is trying to forget.
Current Lucasfilm doesn't understand Star Wars. That was obvious to me when they discarded the Expanded Universe. Those are the stories that the fans wanted turned into movies. Anything else is just an insult.
Legends is overrated in my opinion. All I what to see is the characters actually be badass and so far not a lot have.
@@ultradeathboy Overrated or not, the Expanded Universe (I will not slander it with the Disney moniker) had that.
I never really understood how a multi-billion dollar company can't put it in their budget to hire someone who has at least a decent writing career.
That's the rub! Disney group think actually believes this is Oscar/Emmy award winning writing and you are just too ignorant or stupid to not see it!
It's made terrible..... ON PURPOSE. Why can't people see this?
@@quantumofconscience6538 ok crybaby
They really dropped the ball with the Obi Wan vs Vader fight, like you mentioned as far as passion goes. I think back to Afro Samurai vs Kuma where it's revealed that Kuma had tears in his eyes the entire time they were fighting. And while he fought Afro he screamed in agony about everything that he perceived Afro took from him. Would have been great to hear Vader do the same, as his fixation on Obi-wan is partly because of this, and also because he wants to sever his old bonds, but still, it was always passion that motivated Anakin to become Vader. I understand that the things and people he was passionate about are no longer around, but he could have still still felt passion and showed some sith hatred for the man who took everything, even three of his limbs, and left him to die. This Vader should have been a continuation of the one from the end of Episode 3 where he finds out Padme is dead and destroys everything via force energy. If this was the case then the scene where Vader killed civilians indiscriminately wouldn't have looked like a typical Sunday for our Sith, and made more sense (he'll kill anyone to get to Obi Wan).
I thoroughly enjoy your opinions and content. Your edits and production quality are so much fun to listen to and watch. Thanks for your hard work and time invested. I appreciate it.
It's crazy, I was so passed when they didn't just go around the gate. The other thing that gets me is how a 10 year old somehow becomes a world class sprinter in every episode.
I remember a few years back when the book of boba fett and kenobi were announced as future projects, I was so excited for the return of star wars. Oh how naive I was
Lol the gate scene was so ridiculous, I almost stopped the show then, it didn’t took me much longer later..
I bet Disney thought they were so Mature and Edgy when they made that Stormtrooper get cut in half.
sadly this is the BEST Disney can do with damn near infinite budget... as the money dries up this is only going to get worse.
What sucks the most about Vader in this series is that in any other form of media involving Vader by Disney, he was actually portrayed as threatening and tactful yet when it comes to live-action he’s portrayed as a moron.
Rogue One portrayed him pretty well in live-action but otherwise no.
@@mastervader3171 lol. One scene at the end is not a good portrayal. It's just appeasing the fans with nostalgia. He was done better in Dr aphra comics, in his standalone Vader comics series and in star wars fallen order the game. In this show he is just pathetic and it hurts me to see him this way.
To make I even worse I saw a article saying that they might reboot the original trilogy
Thank god someone pointed out the fact that the empire should know that the organas should be arrested for treason over the fact they know where kenobi is.
At this point, hiring a guy off the street with a good idea and the love of Star Wars to write one of their shows would be an embarrassment to them. Even letting anime weebs give it a go made a bunch of people go "well, that was better than solo..."
All we have is excuses and attempts to appeal to the audience by scaring them that they might be racist for not liking the show.
It's like the end of a clockwork orange.
I now want Disney to leave Jar Jar alone.
What you starting saying around 11:40 has me crying 😆 😂😂so horrible
I don’t understand why Disney makes it so everything has to connect and be on Tatooine and be of the same characters meeting/fighting. When the show was first announced, I assumed it would be about Obi-Wan’s journeys traveling with Qui-Gon before episode 1 or his early years as a Jedi Knight between episodes 1 and 2
I remember how excited everyone was when the news that Disney was gonna buy Star Wars from George Lucas because the Prequels sucked so much in comparison to the OT. How naive were we in hindsight to the absolute garbage we would end up seeing.
Not all of it was bad but yeah a lot of it was bad
Heyyyy… Prequels don’t suck in comparison to OT… >.
There's been a 2-hour-long fan-edit made for the series that's absolutely worth your time. It's not only had a ton of the crap edited out, but it's obviously turned the show into a full fledged movie instead. It's fantastic, the work that went into it. There's scenes that have been brought back from the prequel trilogy to establish certain shots, and callbacks to moments that make some scenes feel more organic. Then there's the only flashback scene in the series - it's now been edited into the final fight, instead of randomly in the show. I would seriously recommend giving it a go.
The YT video on it is called "I Turned Obi-Wan Kenobi Into A Movie (and you can watch it)". The dude deserves a spot of attention, for sure.
8:15 That clip there reminds me of the scene in _Blazing Saddles_ where they set up that tollbooth in the middle of the desert to delay the bad guys, and how, instead of going around it, they send a couple of their guys back to get a bunch of dimes so they can go through it! Or the scene from _Robin Hood: Men in Tights_ where Robin fights Little John to cross that bridge over a stream that is so narrow, Achoo could straddle it with his legs! Same level of intelligence, but in those cases, it was intentional for comedy's sake.....Here, it leaves you smacking your head and groaning!
"A glimpse of what could have been" is really starting to throw me into a depression with entertainment, they've ruined so much
I only watched the fan edit of Kenobi that cut the series down to movie length, and I still couldn't finish it. It's still awful.
As Obi Wan Kenobi i distance myself from this disrightful copy of mine
I'm with you
Another golden episode. Do they let like their kids write the show? And is there not a single person in Hollywood with the balls to stand up and say, "um after reading this script, I have some concerns like a few glaring plot holes."
I mean shit I had 7th grade students write as well as this and that is not a compliment.
Tricky taking the Empire seriously when they show about as much menace as Captain Feathersword and the Wiggle-town dancing police…