Citation Ultra Operations - ILS Approach in Ice

This video demonstrates a normal ILS approach through a cloud layer containing ice using a Citation Ultra. The lessons to be learned with regard to leaving engine anti-ice on until the airframe is clean apply to all Citations with booted main wings (Citation II, Citation V, Citation Ultra, etc.)

[@wsb1320]

This has been one of the most helpful channels there is on UA-cam for learning the citation 500 series. I'm in my initial type training (501sp) and I'm very thankful for your channel. Keep up the good work.

[@citationpro]

Thanks for watching! I'm glad you find it useful. I'm in recurrent training this week myself. Here's to a smooth week of PowerPoints and sim sessions!

[@charleswarner3194]

Very nice, thank you. I have a lot of time in these Citation Ultras. Fun airplane.

[@citationpro]

Indeed! Very capable airplane in so many ways.

[@raccoonair]

Very good info on ice and AoA; thanks for sharing.

[@citationpro]

Thanks for watching!

[@Jay-gj1rl]

I get a lot of pushback ftom more experienced pilots than me insisting you should extend the gear before initial flaps. I would love to hear your thougts on this

[@citationpro]

My philosophy is to fly in a way such that the pilot is mentally "ahead" of the airplane enough that they don't need to throw out devices right at the max speed. There's a difference between "could" and "should" to think about. Could you throw out the gear at 250 knots, flaps right at 200 knots, etc? Sure, there's nothing saying you can't. But it's both less strain on the machine and more comfortable for the passengers if you put flaps out about 195 knots about 7-10 miles from touchdown, follow up with the gear about 5-6 miles from the runway, then full flaps at about 150 knots at 4-5 miles from the runway.
When it comes to the order of gear and flaps, think about this...how does every airline out there operate? It's nearly always flaps, gear, more flaps. That's not by coincidence. It's the optimal balance of maintenance on the aircraft, fuel efficiency, passenger comfort, and stabilized approaches.
Long story short, do whatever you want as long as you're not exceeding a limitation, but I don't see any benefit to gear first and I do see potential downsides.