Its a great studio dave i really enjoyed my time listening to the mum 8 :) Maybe the UAD Apollo x16 mk2 Or even the new antelope audio Orion 32+ gen4 :) Both are now atmos equipped :) It's a real learning curve getting the stereo to sound correct from atmos to stereo ... I am getting there and think its just another school day :).
@@PresentDayProduction Yes went into hear the mum 8 and loved them :) Great studio and great bunch of people :) And hopefully get down to visit you guys at some point next year :)
Not mixing when creating was a lesson that took way too long for me to figure out. Especially when you’re mixing before there’s really anything to mix… Go a drum loop going then spend a hour tweaking the drums when there’s nothing to even mix them with. This is why I do still like to use a set of speakers and headphones that are not studio specified, but just make things sound good… that’s where I do use my MM-100’s… I wouldn’t suggest these for anything else. Then some cheap Tannoy Gold’s for my speakers in creation… Still, we you record anything you still need critical listening things to setup the recording properly so you’re not trying to fix broken things later… but as soon as you know it’s fine ditch the self doubting speakers and create. I used to have about 200 odd unfinished tracks due to the practice of trying to mix while creating… plus you end up processing things way too much also… because you do end up mixing before there’s enough content to actually mix… which is why most projects by producers that have tried to mix themselves is often laden with too many plugins
I had the very same thing growing up around bass heavy sound systems and need a bit more sub in my monitoring… if I don’t have it I don’t do when getting the sub right. I’d love to have at some point a VOID system Incubus Sub with a Tri Motion 3-way as my secondary monitor setup. Big money though… probably can’t go above the MUM-6’s and a Dynaudio core sub compact… then IK multimedia micro pro’s for my Atmos… which will be more for testing the waters most likely… hoping I can get away with doing well enough just using them for placement but haven’t had any hands on with Atmos so that’s kinda in my imagination at the moment, not something I definitely know. I have come to learn that it’s so important once you’ve controlled the room and speakers to be flat to then tune them to your taste… it makes it so much easier to mix when you don’t have to bare in mind you just prefer more and less of this and that frequency… you then mix to what you want to hear. I have an array of headphones I like to all check with so I think the MUM-6’s will be more than fine for now. I hated headphones until I stopped trying out “studio” headphones… turns out the term “studio” in headphones is about as imaginary as the term “gaming” headphones lol. The Hifiman Ananda Nano’s are my favourites so far for mix checking. SJY Horizon’s another great set. But all the studio intended ones I’ve tried I not found that easy to mix on… always feels like a compromise to speakers. There are some good expensive ones I liked but cost to performance in mixing purposes they aren’t so hot. A example of the word “studio” meaning nothing is the Audeze MM-100’s. But the clue of what they are is hidden in the description amongst the repeated use of the words “studio” and “mixing” etc, where it says one line “hear what the artist intended”… which means they make things sound better than they are. That is not the use of a headphone in the studio, in fact, it’s the complete opposite. The MM-500’s I liked but there are better headphones for mixing in the £400 mark that aren’t labelled “studio” headphones so really don’t at all recommend those either. The new Hedd one’s are good, but again there’s better for the same price and less in the none “studio” labelling world. The thing is with the Audiophile world is it’s not just about things that make everything sound good, there’s a whole side that like transparency and hearing everything and knowing when a song is good or not. Audiophiles obviously should also like that because that is truly loving audio. I also think that there’s probably a lot of hidden talent that’ll be amazing at mixing and mastering in the Audiophile world… those who love to pick up every nuance of detail in tracks… they would be amazing if they tried and learned. The biggest factor is being someone that really loves sound to be good at this. Every little move and bit of crafting of the sound fulfilling at love for sound as you go
would the genelec 8010a’s be ok for the overheads, considering im not looking to be an atmos mastering studio…? For my own mixing pleasure and watching movies…..😬🙈😂
Its a great studio dave i really enjoyed my time listening to the mum 8 :) Maybe the UAD Apollo x16 mk2 Or even the new antelope audio Orion 32+ gen4 :) Both are now atmos equipped :) It's a real learning curve getting the stereo to sound correct from atmos to stereo ... I am getting there and think its just another school day :).
Had no idea you guys knew each other before Dave mentioned it! How cool!
@@PresentDayProduction Yes went into hear the mum 8 and loved them :) Great studio and great bunch of people :) And hopefully get down to visit you guys at some point next year :)
Please do! You’re very welcome to come by! Send us an email some time :)
Not mixing when creating was a lesson that took way too long for me to figure out.
Especially when you’re mixing before there’s really anything to mix…
Go a drum loop going then spend a hour tweaking the drums when there’s nothing to even mix them with.
This is why I do still like to use a set of speakers and headphones that are not studio specified, but just make things sound good… that’s where I do use my MM-100’s… I wouldn’t suggest these for anything else.
Then some cheap Tannoy Gold’s for my speakers in creation…
Still, we you record anything you still need critical listening things to setup the recording properly so you’re not trying to fix broken things later… but as soon as you know it’s fine ditch the self doubting speakers and create.
I used to have about 200 odd unfinished tracks due to the practice of trying to mix while creating… plus you end up processing things way too much also… because you do end up mixing before there’s enough content to actually mix… which is why most projects by producers that have tried to mix themselves is often laden with too many plugins
I had the very same thing growing up around bass heavy sound systems and need a bit more sub in my monitoring… if I don’t have it I don’t do when getting the sub right.
I’d love to have at some point a VOID system Incubus Sub with a Tri Motion 3-way as my secondary monitor setup.
Big money though… probably can’t go above the MUM-6’s and a Dynaudio core sub compact… then IK multimedia micro pro’s for my Atmos… which will be more for testing the waters most likely… hoping I can get away with doing well enough just using them for placement but haven’t had any hands on with Atmos so that’s kinda in my imagination at the moment, not something I definitely know.
I have come to learn that it’s so important once you’ve controlled the room and speakers to be flat to then tune them to your taste… it makes it so much easier to mix when you don’t have to bare in mind you just prefer more and less of this and that frequency… you then mix to what you want to hear.
I have an array of headphones I like to all check with so I think the MUM-6’s will be more than fine for now.
I hated headphones until I stopped trying out “studio” headphones… turns out the term “studio” in headphones is about as imaginary as the term “gaming” headphones lol.
The Hifiman Ananda Nano’s are my favourites so far for mix checking.
SJY Horizon’s another great set.
But all the studio intended ones I’ve tried I not found that easy to mix on… always feels like a compromise to speakers.
There are some good expensive ones I liked but cost to performance in mixing purposes they aren’t so hot.
A example of the word “studio” meaning nothing is the Audeze MM-100’s.
But the clue of what they are is hidden in the description amongst the repeated use of the words “studio” and “mixing” etc, where it says one line “hear what the artist intended”… which means they make things sound better than they are.
That is not the use of a headphone in the studio, in fact, it’s the complete opposite.
The MM-500’s I liked but there are better headphones for mixing in the £400 mark that aren’t labelled “studio” headphones so really don’t at all recommend those either.
The new Hedd one’s are good, but again there’s better for the same price and less in the none “studio” labelling world.
The thing is with the Audiophile world is it’s not just about things that make everything sound good, there’s a whole side that like transparency and hearing everything and knowing when a song is good or not.
Audiophiles obviously should also like that because that is truly loving audio.
I also think that there’s probably a lot of hidden talent that’ll be amazing at mixing and mastering in the Audiophile world… those who love to pick up every nuance of detail in tracks… they would be amazing if they tried and learned.
The biggest factor is being someone that really loves sound to be good at this.
Every little move and bit of crafting of the sound fulfilling at love for sound as you go
would the genelec 8010a’s be ok for the overheads, considering im not looking to be an atmos mastering studio…? For my own mixing pleasure and watching movies…..😬🙈😂
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