I looked at getting one as a company car but theCHAdeMO rapid charger put me off. They are alot harder to find and generally restricted to 50kwh charge speed. Kind of a deal breaker if you want to do long journeys. CHAdeMO is also going to be discontinued so there is no motivation for charger providers to continue spending money on new CHAdeMO chargers
Ah yes good points, I know they’ve compared CCS to Chademo like Betamax to VHS, however I didn’t know it was being phased out, as you mention it does have its limitations, thank you Mark
We certainly think it’s improved since the 1st Gen, but it’s not going to float everyone’s boat. But as my brother always says, That’s why we all drive different cars! *A
we have 2020 40kw we bought it new. best car i've ever owned. 4 years it's cost us one wiper blade. 190 quid a year on electric to travel 15k miles a year
You just can’t beat that, the one Nissan gave us was a beast lowered as standard too and two tone our favourite, pretty quick and very enjoyable to drive.
A brilliant solid car. Perfect as a family run around. It's a shame Chademo is a dieing standard but I think for the greater good of EV adoption we need one standard and that's now CCS. Just put a deposit down on my 3rd LEAF as my family run around. Over 100k miles done on the last 2 LEAF's and they have been bulletproof.
It's not surprising that Nissan cornered the market with these! It is a shame that they weren't CCS from the start, but as Ben says - in the was of Betamax Vs. VHS there was always going to be a winner and a loser...*A
I feel it would have been so easy for Nissan to swap it over to CCS going forward. It would totally boost its relevance. They're fantastic cars in every other respect.
I wrote the leaf off, but tbh I'm leaning more and more towards it, it's just a really good all around package, and you get a lot of car for your money second hand with these. Right now there isn't really much competition around £15k
if you only travel 100 miles a day max and have a home charger then just go buy one. i have been driving 45 years since 1979. driven over 4 million miles in cars van and motorbikes. we have 2 ice cars aswell at home. the leaf is the car we all love to drive. plus it costs less than taking the bus. no servicing ever needed. just drive it untill it dies. fantastic car in everway. drives like a rolls royce and cheaper than going by bus.
Just got one on a 3 year business lease. £1.5k down & £132 pcm a steal. We do less than 8k miles a year and have solars so we hope no more petrol stations.
looking at getting an EV this year. was looking at the MG4, but no rear interior light, no rear middle headrest, no rear vents... not great when I have 3 kids. Also heard some major complaints of people getting locked in their MG4 and the doors refusing to unlock. (assume it's fixed now, but that would be horrific) Never considered the leaf as I assumed it was just old and outdated compared to "modern" EV's, but think it's top of my list now.
It’s a hard decision between these 2, especially with the MG warranty and CCS, lacking in the rear doesn’t help - the Leaf does everything well Dread 😊
We test drove one recently, was surprised how well put together and comfortable it was, still considering between the Leaf and a Hyundai Kona, , nice drive around Arneside as well.
Thank you Arnside is close to us, and there’s some great roads around here to thoroughly get a feel - it’s a great car, as is Kona, I suppose it boils down to car or SUV, keep us posted Ron and thank you
In 2009 I was involved very heavily in installing charging infrastructure in Nissan Dealerships through out the UK. The Gen 1 had just come to market, and was viewed as a novelty by most. No range to speak of, really just a runaround vehicle for local journeys. Nissan had big plans in the early days for market domination. This looks like a much better EV, but the market has eclipsed Nissan I feel? If they are dropping the Leaf in 2025 what next?? Great review as always fair and unbiased👍
I heard a new LEAF is being turned over as it were for the end of 2024. Probably will be amazing, I love the build quality of Nissans nowadays. It just needs heat management on the battery and CCS I think.
Coming to the end of a lease on a 40kw leaf. I'd kind of written off the leaf due to no CCS. I also imagined the 59kwh would be super heavy, and hard to charge at 50kw. Kia Niro EV and Cupra Born became the new shortlist. I've since dismissed the Born, due to bad blind spots, wipers set up for LH drive, and VWs bad electronics/touch sensitive controls What i learnt recently is that e+ is meant to have 100kw charging. Also, a heat pump is still standard, unlike the Niro. Their weights are near identical. Finally, it is WAY cheaper. I'm seriously thinking about going for e+ N Connecta. Even despite the BBQ alloys!
Interesting we found Born impressive across the board, great overwatch too much like Audi - new Niro very good we drove that 500 + miles - it’s improved on previous gen, way faster CCS - Leaf, very good bar our highlights in this vid, we personally love the Sapphire Cossie style rims. Never an easy decision, there’s also lead time to consider, sadly - thank you Thomas
I purchased one to complement my F150. The 40kw model at the time was the cheapest ev on the market. For around town, I don't need more than it's 150 mile range.
I've had a 2017 LEAF since new and think it's a marvellous car for my sort of use. Now looking to get a newer one. I took one for a test drive and felt the seats had got less comfortable, and I didn't like the squared off bit of the steering wheel much. Any owners got any thoughts on that?
@@PlanetautoUK Hi, it was nearly new, about 1300 miles on it. Was a Tekna, and the one I have now is also a Tekna. The smaller centre armrest also I didn't like, but that is the full list of gripes. Love the propilot and 40Kwh battery, the new alloys (like yours) and the looks in general. I guess it's just going from one to another - does the steering wheel bother you at all?
@pigknickers2975 we really enjoyed the lowered one we had with the quicker acceleration and that colour scheme 😀 we’ve an Ariya, Qashqai and X Trail coming too, road trip time.
If Nissan just changed the battery to LFP, increased the capacity to around 48kWh usable, swapped the Chademo for CCS.. this would sell. The basic body and design is fine.
I've got an e+ N-Connecta coming in April as a company car. It wouldn't have been my personal choice of EV if I could have had anything, but out of a small list of options it was the best of a "meh" bunch really. I could have had an ID.3, e2008, or an Ioniq. I nearly went ID.3, but the waiting list was over a year. As a company car the Leaf attracts £20 a month in BiK tax and my employer will pay for all the charging so it really is a practically "free" car. I bought a diesel SUV as our second car to do all the stuff the Leaf won't.
Yes, it’s a strange time, virtually all manufacturers have this challenge, we enjoyed our experience, as for those incentives you couldn’t ask for more, especially charging, wise thinking with the SUV too. Thank you Graham
I had never given the Leaf much thought until your video. This looks really smart but some of the people on UA-cam a few years back had problems on road trips with hot battery and slow charging. Now if Nissan had chosen CCS and battery thermal control with reasonable charging rates it could have been a winner. As a day to day car it looks the bussine. Thanks for the video guys, I always look forward to your refreshing take on EVs.
Very true John, they also seemed to have degradation challenges, something that’s not likely visible at the beginning wellnot to that degree - however it’s a learning curve when your a pioneer, it’ll be interesting to see how Nissan have evolved when we compare it to the Ariya that’s coming soon. Thank you
Hi John, same for me. I like the Leaf very much. But No CCS and no battery thermal control were deal breakers for me. So I ended up buying a Kona EV (and I must admit I do appreciate a lot).
@@thomaschilds8781 it's a 2019 model I bought second hand in 2020 and have been using it daily since. It has 60000km on the counter. Honestly, I still like it very much. Comfortable, fully equipped including heat pump, with a long range (easily 450-500 km at summer, around 400km winter). Surprisingly for an "old" car, it still compares very well to the brand new models in terms of efficiency and range. The latest Kona is even better. If budget is limited, I would not hesitate to buy a second hand Kona EV. PS: I also chose the Kona over A Tesla because I prefer having a dashboard and a head up display, as well as real physical buttons (to set a/c per example) . I can't stand a central screen.
More and more people these days are becoming more educated with EVs. One big concern is battery degradation. I own a 2022 Leaf, and I bought it because it was the only Leaf in the entire Phoenix AZ area at the time. The car is great in all aspects except the battery. They should have changed from passive thermal management to water cooling at least. If you’ve driven a fare distance, you will be faced with a much longer than normal charging time because of the battery getting hot. The Leaf would have been practically perfect if they incorporated proper thermal management.
The thing is as we know now, there was no point in them massively changing the ev system as Leaf in its current form it’s disappearing anyway in favour of the New Leaf an SUV Kelala 😀
@@PlanetautoUKtrue enough, but they could have kept it alive considering it was the #1 best selling EV due to its lower cost. If they were planning on adding thermal cooling, it could continue being a number one seller for them. For me, as a Leaf owner, I would be more than happy to trade up one day.
Very true. As much as they are discontinuing the Leaf, I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually bring it back as the new and improved model. The Leaf has been a major cash cow for them. I doubt it if they are willing to give up such a lucrative income. Many buyers are not interested in all the flashy overly expensive features automakers are providing. That only represents a small segment of buyers. The majority fall into the Leaf bracket which explains why they sold so many over the years. Bottom line is we will just have to wait and see how things turn out.
There’s very little profit in cars of this size nowadays at least here, Leaf I think will morph into a crossover jyst Ariya, but we’ll have to wait and see.
Thank you Robert, in a word I said that with regards to platform anyway, yes Ariya is decades ahead - mind you it’s still a good car and improves on previous ones
at this pricepoint and size the only major competitors are the MG4 which has some major downsides, the 2008 which wasn't built as an electric car (and it shows) the c4 and the megane. both of which are more expensive and also have their pros and cons.
I never owned one, but it was on my short list for a "city" car. I got a Prius instead, mostly for reasons of price and fiability, but I suppose if I wanted an EV, this could have been (or maybe the older version). In my city in Canada where I live, the price of a used 2018 Leaf is bigger than a brand new Toyota Corrola, so I can't really consider it, but a 2014 would have worked, at around 6-7k. On the other hand, if you must ignore the T-word EVs (which I don't, really), there isn't much else you can buy this year, Ioniq 5 are sold out until 2025, same with the EV6, and most other manufacturers either have big waiting lists or charge your right arm and a leg.
That’s crazy Byte, car prices currently baffle, we’ve a 5 on the drive at the moment, wow that’s some lead time, it’ll be interesting to see how MG and BYD shake up the markets, thank you
Well Annabelle answer to your question is: yeah maybe I could, it's definitely more appealing on the eye than the previous Leaf which to me always looks a bit 'bland' 🤔 just my opinion of course..the design of the current generation one is certainly more up to date. Build quality looks pretty damn good & on this model it's the all the tech including the sound system, but it comes at a price 🤔 ev's in general are going to have to come down in price as most people can't afford the initial cost so it's all down to manufacturers making vehicles more 'affordable' to the average person especially the way the cost of day to day living is going...we will Riding around on bicycle 🚲 soon 😆great review planet auto as always 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, David. It's strange to think that this is the last time the Leaf will look like this! It will be interesting to see what happens with the EV market, especially after the MG4 made such a splash at that price. *A
@@PlanetautoUK yeah it will be very interesting.it needed someone to come along like MG has to bring to the market place a car that is setting a price that is more realistic instead of £30k vehicles..it's a crazy old world 🤔
@@davidmarshall5596 thing is with the MG is that you see clearly where they made the cost cuttings, and for me I couldn't live with some of the things. no rear middle headrest for example? cutting costs is one thing, but compromising safety is another.
@@PlanetautoUK Yepp, if that is available for you.. In Sweden it is common that the fuses are 16A and thit give you aroung 3,7Kw with 1-phase.. It will take a while to charge! :-)
I was tempted with Mg4 but no rear wipe! and rear camera is only available on top of the range. At this price it's a more difficult choice. Nissan is bulletproof whereas the MG is having issues with leaks. Personally I think MG is a bit dacia but that's just me. I went for the new facefted leaf 2023. No regrets, it's been great. 51kw battery would be nice though😀
Good choice, it’s amazing how many people don’t know about the VWG partnership, I remember one comment saying look at that cheap MG steering wheel, I replied and what car do you have - he replied Golf GTI, I said take a closer look at the wheel 😆 MG are going places, it’s been designed to not need a rear wiper like a saloon - which leaks do you mean Martin?
I love this car [I have one, but I liked the original shape], sadly it’s to be replaced with an SUV, are Nissan mad. We need more family vehicles not SUVs
Yes it is, the thing is SUV is the best selling designation across the board. We’ll be sad to see it go, it’s amazing how many you see on the roads. Thank you Robert
@robertjohnsontaylor3187 it won’t, it’ll likely sell considerably better than the car, we’ve seen this increase massively in the last few years, SUV sales save car manufacturers. Just look at the top selling vehicles in uk Qashqai, Puma, Sportage - 1 car in the top 5 and 3 in the top 10.
Crazy isn’t it 17’s too small Keith, these launched with 15’s- I think they look fine and I do love style too, now the ZS wheels used to look overly small. Thank you 😊
Naz, same platform but that’s it pretty much, everything else has evolved as I mentioned, looks better balance from Gen 1 too PS they’ve likely evolved it as much as possible battery size, range, hence why it’s going SUV, still sells well 3217 in Dec alone. It stands to reason it’s not as advanced as EV6, 4, eTron etc however it’s great for what it is and many people prefer familiarity.
@concretehead2790 ok, ive been driving evs for 7 years now, and if you think the leaf still can match todays evs your smoking some good stuff! Go do some research about the 2nd generation leaf and see how its basically repackaged and nothing has much changed apart from the battery size!
@@PlanetautoUK sorry i dont agree! In todays ev market the 2nd gen, wouldn't come close to like for like platforms battery size etc, nissan is basically drawing out what they can out of this! Pls name me another manufacturer that the 2nd gen £36k can rival??
What does it lack, minus thermal charging control and CCS, that’s a need not a convenience. Nissan are capitalising on customers wants, not drawing out, if something is liked and sells who in their right mind would stop selling it🤨 It’s better than it used to be and that’s what people want.
@@NazzyAli doesn't just match them. it beats many other EV's at this pricepoint in many ways still... most others (Mg4, 2008, Megane, C4 etc) don't even have one pedal driving for instance.
What do you think of the Nissan Leaf? Can you see yourself in one? Annabelle
I looked at getting one as a company car but theCHAdeMO rapid charger put me off. They are alot harder to find and generally restricted to 50kwh charge speed. Kind of a deal breaker if you want to do long journeys. CHAdeMO is also going to be discontinued so there is no motivation for charger providers to continue spending money on new CHAdeMO chargers
Ah yes good points, I know they’ve compared CCS to Chademo like Betamax to VHS, however I didn’t know it was being phased out, as you mention it does have its limitations, thank you Mark
Sorry, but looks matter to me and this doesn't float my boat. Plus out Nissan dealership is really bad.
We certainly think it’s improved since the 1st Gen, but it’s not going to float everyone’s boat. But as my brother always says, That’s why we all drive different cars! *A
Don't call me Annabelle. The name's Shirley.
Great review highlighting all the positives I have a 2020 Leaf+ and love it
Thank you J, great car and fun to drive
we have 2020 40kw we bought it new.
best car i've ever owned. 4 years it's cost us one wiper blade. 190 quid a year on electric to travel 15k miles a year
You just can’t beat that, the one Nissan gave us was a beast lowered as standard too and two tone our favourite, pretty quick and very enjoyable to drive.
A brilliant solid car. Perfect as a family run around.
It's a shame Chademo is a dieing standard but I think for the greater good of EV adoption we need one standard and that's now CCS.
Just put a deposit down on my 3rd LEAF as my family run around. Over 100k miles done on the last 2 LEAF's and they have been bulletproof.
It's not surprising that Nissan cornered the market with these! It is a shame that they weren't CCS from the start, but as Ben says - in the was of Betamax Vs. VHS there was always going to be a winner and a loser...*A
I feel it would have been so easy for Nissan to swap it over to CCS going forward. It would totally boost its relevance. They're fantastic cars in every other respect.
Either that or both.
Is there an adaptor to convert Chademo to CCS for rapid charging when out and about?
No, the short answer, it’s to do with incompatibility with handshake one car based other unit based - however Tesla do for Chademo 😏
I wrote the leaf off, but tbh I'm leaning more and more towards it, it's just a really good all around package, and you get a lot of car for your money second hand with these. Right now there isn't really much competition around £15k
It really impressed us as you can tell, great cars.
Perfect cat for commuting around town. Charge at home and some of the public chargers at leased have one or more chademo connectors.
Very true, thank you Steve
if you only travel 100 miles a day max and have a home charger then just go buy one. i have been driving 45 years since 1979. driven over 4 million miles in cars van and motorbikes.
we have 2 ice cars aswell at home.
the leaf is the car we all love to drive. plus it costs less than taking the bus.
no servicing ever needed. just drive it untill it dies. fantastic car in everway. drives like a rolls royce and cheaper than going by bus.
Great cars, and many years worth of models to choose from, thank you Issac
Just got one on a 3 year business lease.
£1.5k down & £132 pcm a steal.
We do less than 8k miles a year and have solars so we hope no more petrol stations.
That’s amazing, have fun you’ll save a fortune, and it’s a fun car too.
Forget the car, let me just say that the way you presented this was phenomenal. Earned yourself a subscriber mate keep up the fantastic work!
High praise indeed, thank you Mohammad, lots more to come.
looking at getting an EV this year. was looking at the MG4, but no rear interior light, no rear middle headrest, no rear vents... not great when I have 3 kids. Also heard some major complaints of people getting locked in their MG4 and the doors refusing to unlock. (assume it's fixed now, but that would be horrific)
Never considered the leaf as I assumed it was just old and outdated compared to "modern" EV's, but think it's top of my list now.
It’s a hard decision between these 2, especially with the MG warranty and CCS, lacking in the rear doesn’t help - the Leaf does everything well Dread 😊
We test drove one recently, was surprised how well put together and comfortable it was, still considering between the Leaf and a Hyundai Kona, , nice drive around Arneside as well.
Thank you Arnside is close to us, and there’s some great roads around here to thoroughly get a feel - it’s a great car, as is Kona, I suppose it boils down to car or SUV, keep us posted Ron and thank you
In 2009 I was involved very heavily in installing charging infrastructure in Nissan Dealerships through out the UK. The Gen 1 had just come to market, and was viewed as a novelty by most. No range to speak of, really just a runaround vehicle for local journeys. Nissan had big plans in the early days for market domination. This looks like a much better EV, but the market has eclipsed Nissan I feel? If they are dropping the Leaf in 2025 what next?? Great review as always fair and unbiased👍
Thank you George, that’s interesting to hear, we’ll report back once we’ve experienced the Ariya in the coming weeks.
Well it took a little for us to get behind the wheel of Ariya 😆😊
I heard a new LEAF is being turned over as it were for the end of 2024. Probably will be amazing, I love the build quality of Nissans nowadays. It just needs heat management on the battery and CCS I think.
@pigknickers2975 yes, Leaf like many vehicles likely to become an SUV, a Cross Over I’m betting on 😀 on the new modular EV platform I reckon.
Awesome video thanks! What is the name of this colour?
Two tone Blade Silver with Pearl Black roof and door mirrors 😀
Coming to the end of a lease on a 40kw leaf. I'd kind of written off the leaf due to no CCS. I also imagined the 59kwh would be super heavy, and hard to charge at 50kw.
Kia Niro EV and Cupra Born became the new shortlist.
I've since dismissed the Born, due to bad blind spots, wipers set up for LH drive, and VWs bad electronics/touch sensitive controls
What i learnt recently is that e+ is meant to have 100kw charging. Also, a heat pump is still standard, unlike the Niro. Their weights are near identical. Finally, it is WAY cheaper.
I'm seriously thinking about going for e+ N Connecta. Even despite the BBQ alloys!
Interesting we found Born impressive across the board, great overwatch too much like Audi - new Niro very good we drove that 500 + miles - it’s improved on previous gen, way faster CCS - Leaf, very good bar our highlights in this vid, we personally love the Sapphire Cossie style rims. Never an easy decision, there’s also lead time to consider, sadly - thank you Thomas
Nice car. I can't quite afford 1 yet. In the near future hopefully🤞🏻. Wicked alloys man. Great review. Nice one👍🏻
Thanks, Paul - glad you enjoyed it! Fingers crossed you get yours sooner rather than later *A
I purchased one to complement my F150. The 40kw model at the time was the cheapest ev on the market. For around town, I don't need more than it's 150 mile range.
Exactly, therefore it suits offers something different and it’s cost effective, then you’ve the F150 for everything else, thank you Jon 😀
I've had a 2017 LEAF since new and think it's a marvellous car for my sort of use. Now looking to get a newer one. I took one for a test drive and felt the seats had got less comfortable, and I didn't like the squared off bit of the steering wheel much. Any owners got any thoughts on that?
Was it brand new? As the seats will feel stiffer less give if they’re not sat on also which trim Pig?
@@PlanetautoUK Hi, it was nearly new, about 1300 miles on it. Was a Tekna, and the one I have now is also a Tekna. The smaller centre armrest also I didn't like, but that is the full list of gripes. Love the propilot and 40Kwh battery, the new alloys (like yours) and the looks in general. I guess it's just going from one to another - does the steering wheel bother you at all?
I preferred it, but we drive a lot of vehicles with this type, I found the seats comfortable mind you ours had done a fair few miles though.
@@PlanetautoUK I guess they will wear in a bit. There are a lot of good deals out there right now on nearly new Leafs. It's getting very tempting.
@pigknickers2975 we really enjoyed the lowered one we had with the quicker acceleration and that colour scheme 😀 we’ve an Ariya, Qashqai and X Trail coming too, road trip time.
Great channel 🎉
Thank you Jon 😀
If Nissan just changed the battery to LFP, increased the capacity to around 48kWh usable, swapped the Chademo for CCS.. this would sell. The basic body and design is fine.
It sells now, however that would really shake things up.
@@PlanetautoUK sales are slow in the UK now as the "new" facelift was priced too high
@decimal1815 it certainly sold well in Gen 1, the latest I can’t find any stats 🙃 Europe in general it seems to still sell well. Thank you Decimal
I've got an e+ N-Connecta coming in April as a company car. It wouldn't have been my personal choice of EV if I could have had anything, but out of a small list of options it was the best of a "meh" bunch really. I could have had an ID.3, e2008, or an Ioniq. I nearly went ID.3, but the waiting list was over a year. As a company car the Leaf attracts £20 a month in BiK tax and my employer will pay for all the charging so it really is a practically "free" car. I bought a diesel SUV as our second car to do all the stuff the Leaf won't.
Yes, it’s a strange time, virtually all manufacturers have this challenge, we enjoyed our experience, as for those incentives you couldn’t ask for more, especially charging, wise thinking with the SUV too. Thank you Graham
I had never given the Leaf much thought until your video. This looks really smart but some of the people on UA-cam a few years back had problems on road trips with hot battery and slow charging. Now if Nissan had chosen CCS and battery thermal control with reasonable charging rates it could have been a winner. As a day to day car it looks the bussine. Thanks for the video guys, I always look forward to your refreshing take on EVs.
Very true John, they also seemed to have degradation challenges, something that’s not likely visible at the beginning wellnot to that degree - however it’s a learning curve when your a pioneer, it’ll be interesting to see how Nissan have evolved when we compare it to the Ariya that’s coming soon. Thank you
Hi John, same for me. I like the Leaf very much. But No CCS and no battery thermal control were deal breakers for me. So I ended up buying a Kona EV (and I must admit I do appreciate a lot).
@@infinityNmore how do you like the Kona?
@@thomaschilds8781 it's a 2019 model I bought second hand in 2020 and have been using it daily since. It has 60000km on the counter. Honestly, I still like it very much. Comfortable, fully equipped including heat pump, with a long range (easily 450-500 km at summer, around 400km winter). Surprisingly for an "old" car, it still compares very well to the brand new models in terms of efficiency and range. The latest Kona is even better. If budget is limited, I would not hesitate to buy a second hand Kona EV.
PS: I also chose the Kona over A Tesla because I prefer having a dashboard and a head up display, as well as real physical buttons (to set a/c per example) . I can't stand a central screen.
Did the Leaf arrive from Sunderland the home of the UK headquarters 😊
This one came from down South where they have fleet headquarters *A
More and more people these days are becoming more educated with EVs. One big concern is battery degradation. I own a 2022 Leaf, and I bought it because it was the only Leaf in the entire Phoenix AZ area at the time. The car is great in all aspects except the battery. They should have changed from passive thermal management to water cooling at least. If you’ve driven a fare distance, you will be faced with a much longer than normal charging time because of the battery getting hot. The Leaf would have been practically perfect if they incorporated proper thermal management.
The thing is as we know now, there was no point in them massively changing the ev system as Leaf in its current form it’s disappearing anyway in favour of the New Leaf an SUV Kelala 😀
@@PlanetautoUKtrue enough, but they could have kept it alive considering it was the #1 best selling EV due to its lower cost. If they were planning on adding thermal cooling, it could continue being a number one seller for them. For me, as a Leaf owner, I would be more than happy to trade up one day.
@kelalamusic9258 yes, we liked it too, but people want newer more practicality etc.
Very true. As much as they are discontinuing the Leaf, I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually bring it back as the new and improved model. The Leaf has been a major cash cow for them. I doubt it if they are willing to give up such a lucrative income. Many buyers are not interested in all the flashy overly expensive features automakers are providing. That only represents a small segment of buyers. The majority fall into the Leaf bracket which explains why they sold so many over the years. Bottom line is we will just have to wait and see how things turn out.
There’s very little profit in cars of this size nowadays at least here, Leaf I think will morph into a crossover jyst Ariya, but we’ll have to wait and see.
Superb review but the Leaf is totally outdated. The competition is kicking it's ass.
Thank you Robert, in a word I said that with regards to platform anyway, yes Ariya is decades ahead - mind you it’s still a good car and improves on previous ones
at this pricepoint and size the only major competitors are the MG4 which has some major downsides, the 2008 which wasn't built as an electric car (and it shows) the c4 and the megane. both of which are more expensive and also have their pros and cons.
We found this a great car, and like you mention it already has an established track record, what are your thoughts it becoming an SUV?
I never owned one, but it was on my short list for a "city" car. I got a Prius instead, mostly for reasons of price and fiability, but I suppose if I wanted an EV, this could have been (or maybe the older version). In my city in Canada where I live, the price of a used 2018 Leaf is bigger than a brand new Toyota Corrola, so I can't really consider it, but a 2014 would have worked, at around 6-7k. On the other hand, if you must ignore the T-word EVs (which I don't, really), there isn't much else you can buy this year, Ioniq 5 are sold out until 2025, same with the EV6, and most other manufacturers either have big waiting lists or charge your right arm and a leg.
That’s crazy Byte, car prices currently baffle, we’ve a 5 on the drive at the moment, wow that’s some lead time, it’ll be interesting to see how MG and BYD shake up the markets, thank you
Well Annabelle answer to your question is: yeah maybe I could, it's definitely more appealing on the eye than the previous Leaf which to me always looks a bit 'bland' 🤔 just my opinion of course..the design of the current generation one is certainly more up to date. Build quality looks pretty damn good & on this model it's the all the tech including the sound system, but it comes at a price 🤔 ev's in general are going to have to come down in price as most people can't afford the initial cost so it's all down to manufacturers making vehicles more 'affordable' to the average person especially the way the cost of day to day living is going...we will Riding around on bicycle 🚲 soon 😆great review planet auto as always 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, David. It's strange to think that this is the last time the Leaf will look like this! It will be interesting to see what happens with the EV market, especially after the MG4 made such a splash at that price. *A
@@PlanetautoUK yeah it will be very interesting.it needed someone to come along like MG has to bring to the market place a car that is setting a price that is more realistic instead of £30k vehicles..it's a crazy old world 🤔
@@davidmarshall5596 thing is with the MG is that you see clearly where they made the cost cuttings, and for me I couldn't live with some of the things. no rear middle headrest for example? cutting costs is one thing, but compromising safety is another.
A dealbreaker for me is that it cant charge with 11kw 3-phase at home. Only 1-phase charging available .
Ah, as long as we have 7.5 at home we’re happy, thank you Tomas
@@PlanetautoUK Yepp, if that is available for you.. In Sweden it is common that the fuses are 16A and thit give you aroung 3,7Kw with 1-phase.. It will take a while to charge! :-)
Oh, that’s not ideal - thank you for sharing this Tomas 😊
My problem is the local dealer, could be much improved.
Ah yes, sadly many manufacturers have this challenge, thank you Michael
Same here , out Nissan dealership is dreadful. By far worst dealership I've ever been in, rude salesman and manager chewing guy.
Nissan Knaresborough.
That’s so disappointing-sorry to hear that, Keith *A
@@keithblackwood4475 mine was truly dire. so bad they closed doors a few years back and MG4 swept in instead.
@@keithblackwood4475 mine too!
Prefer the MG4 but is todays reduction in price of the Teslas a game changer?
MG & Tesla have certainly started something Mark, now it’s going to get interesting…buckle up.
I was tempted with Mg4 but no rear wipe! and rear camera is only available on top of the range. At this price it's a more difficult choice. Nissan is bulletproof whereas the MG is having issues with leaks. Personally I think MG is a bit dacia but that's just me. I went for the new facefted leaf 2023. No regrets, it's been great. 51kw battery would be nice though😀
Good choice, it’s amazing how many people don’t know about the VWG partnership, I remember one comment saying look at that cheap MG steering wheel, I replied and what car do you have - he replied Golf GTI, I said take a closer look at the wheel 😆 MG are going places, it’s been designed to not need a rear wiper like a saloon - which leaks do you mean Martin?
I love this car [I have one, but I liked the original shape], sadly it’s to be replaced with an SUV, are Nissan mad. We need more family vehicles not SUVs
Yes it is, the thing is SUV is the best selling designation across the board. We’ll be sad to see it go, it’s amazing how many you see on the roads. Thank you Robert
@@PlanetautoUK that means it will be competing in a heavily saturated market, it will sadly die.
@robertjohnsontaylor3187 it won’t, it’ll likely sell considerably better than the car, we’ve seen this increase massively in the last few years, SUV sales save car manufacturers. Just look at the top selling vehicles in uk Qashqai, Puma, Sportage - 1 car in the top 5 and 3 in the top 10.
You should work for Nissan , your presentation is very good .
Thank you 😊 ironically I’m just editing the Nissan Ariya review 😀
@@PlanetautoUK I actually hate my 40 kw leaf due to range and wish I never bought it .
We really enjoyed our experience, the only challenge was the Chademo speed broadly speaking - the range was fine for us
@@PlanetautoUK I actually hate my Nissan leaf and am going back to ICE .
We love electric vehicles, road trip then up and down the country, last week we headed to Cardiff in a Genesis.
Why is it the Leaf always has wheels that look far too small for the body. Specially the rear. Sorry doesn't work for me, yet again.
Crazy isn’t it 17’s too small Keith, these launched with 15’s- I think they look fine and I do love style too, now the ZS wheels used to look overly small. Thank you 😊
I had one. It could not get out of town and get back home
Where as the one we had was super efficient, how far did you travel, also was it an early gen Kathy?
Nope, still not any decent fast charging and an old interior and infotainment system.
Still one of the top selling despite its shortfalls
Awful car!!! This car STILL remains the same as gen 1! In todays modern evs this car feels and looks 10 years older!
Naz, same platform but that’s it pretty much, everything else has evolved as I mentioned, looks better balance from Gen 1 too PS they’ve likely evolved it as much as possible battery size, range, hence why it’s going SUV, still sells well 3217 in Dec alone. It stands to reason it’s not as advanced as EV6, 4, eTron etc however it’s great for what it is and many people prefer familiarity.
@concretehead2790 ok, ive been driving evs for 7 years now, and if you think the leaf still can match todays evs your smoking some good stuff! Go do some research about the 2nd generation leaf and see how its basically repackaged and nothing has much changed apart from the battery size!
@@PlanetautoUK sorry i dont agree! In todays ev market the 2nd gen, wouldn't come close to like for like platforms battery size etc, nissan is basically drawing out what they can out of this! Pls name me another manufacturer that the 2nd gen £36k can rival??
What does it lack, minus thermal charging control and CCS, that’s a need not a convenience. Nissan are capitalising on customers wants, not drawing out, if something is liked and sells who in their right mind would stop selling it🤨 It’s better than it used to be and that’s what people want.
@@NazzyAli doesn't just match them. it beats many other EV's at this pricepoint in many ways still... most others (Mg4, 2008, Megane, C4 etc) don't even have one pedal driving for instance.