I'm not a type of person to get psychoanalysis myself but for him to say it has no value seems a bit ridiculous. I mean if nothing else it allows people a chance to talk through traumatic events with an outsider that they might not feel comfortable talking about with someone that's so close to them.
@@joemckim1183 Doesn't help to talk to a stranger, make some friends and confide in them or you'll collapse into a black hole. No way around it. Therapy never never helps and only gets you hooked on drugs and killed.
@@joemckim1183 That's actually not what he said - if you listen to his words carefully, he lays out his case and its an interesting point. But you need to bear through it, to get what he means.
The anecdote Werner is talking about regarding wrestling is Wrestlemania X7 in 2001. If you are a wrestling fan, you know this to be arguably the greatest show of all-time. One match in the show involved Shane Mcmahon vs his father, WWF owner Vince Mcmahon. Vince had his wife drugged andnput her in a wheelchair to watch him beat up their son. The end of the match involved Linda, the wife, rising out of the wheelchair to kick her husband in thebfamily jewels to an absolutely THUNDEROUS ovation. It is both the highest and lowest form of entertainment at once.
Don’t forget, there was also a running bit where a one legged man would taunt Vince and eventually he took his walker and like...sped off into the night at the end of a show
@@ShadowAngel606@jag1762010 you're both right. She did have a nervous breakdown BUT then she was prescribed medication and Vince over medicated her to keep her sedate..... not quite sure how that would work but the early 00's were pretty wild by today's standards
Linda is still technically married to Vince but their relationship has been not much more than a business relationship for several years you'd have to think.
If Werner Herzog were to do an impersonation of Bill Hader doing an impersonation of Werner Herzog it would sound exactly like he said, "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo"
Better help has paid off millions of dollars of college debt for at least 12 psychology majors. That is the going rate for a degree in this American capitlistic hellscape, no?@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
People are going to deeply regret sharing their personal mental and emotional issues to some online stranger, and sooner than they think. It begs for invoking red flag laws to trample their rights.
i hope he releases a new edition saying "here comes honey boo boo" but apart from that, yes! my dad used to talk abou him when i was a kid (a child, not even a teenager), but i had no idea his personal life was also so fascinating
This guy gets it - wrestling is an outlandish form of social commentary! Especially from the 80's to late 2000's, as those guys were doing something that had never been done, and they truly came up with it as they went along! They participated in some great satire and parody of society and popular culture - which is why if you watch the interviews of guys like Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Jericho etc - you see some really astute minds.
Ironically, the most astute of them are the ones who got out of the business before injuries and addiction destroyed their minds and bodies. The Rock had the sense to get out when he did. Hulk Hogan was in the game way too long.
Can you please point to a couple of specific examples of interviews maybe? I'm from Europe, I've never watched wrestling, so I'm curious about how it reflects society of the time. I'm a huge fan of south park for example, I think they've been doing an incredible social commentary for decades now.
His take on therapy/psycho analysis is interesting. Don't think i agree with it but i can appreciate where he is coming from. Alot to dive into in what he said.
@@kevinkuenn5733 it’s a mix between generational and cultural. In Post-ww2 Germany there was a huge boom in psychological research and looking back, most of it was wrong and harmful to patients.
I don't have a comment on what you said, really - but you used "alot", so I have to share this with you hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
Werner needs to be an unlockable character in whatever the next Skateboarding game is. If they make a Skate 4, they gotta get Werner to voice and then make him playable.
Celebrity survey: The TV show that I wish would make a comeback is… Bong Joon Ho said, "Mindhunter." Quentin Tarantino said, "How I Met Your Mother." Werner Herzog said, "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo."
I didn't expect Werner Herzog to have such positive and joyful soul. I'm just sad that I only recently became aware of how much he has contributed to film. This little snippet was wonderful.
What Werner says about the fascination of watching something like "Honey Boo Boo" is exactly what I feel about watching stuff like Dog the Bounty Hunter or Dirty Jobs - a show that displays situations that I have never and probably will never be in myself, but shows other Human Beings expertly navigating these very specialized situations. Human Beings are fascinating to watch. Btw....as someone living in Minnesota who lives 1/3 time in Wisconsin - thanks for the shout out! but shhhh don't reveal how great it is up here! 😉
I think there is a difference between "I don't believe in therapy" and "I don't believe that therapy will solve everything". I mean, there surely is an idiotic culture repeating "be better, be better, be better" and of course the sollution to the worlds problems isn't "more therapy". But to just simply deny the good it can do (most people would benefit in knowing themselves a bit more, and psycoanalisys isn't the only way to do that, the field of psycotherapy have many branches and alternatives) sounds simplistic. I love Werner Herzog and I can clearly see that he put a lot thought into what he is saying here; nonetheless, I think he's a bit mistaken.
The data would suggest he is, indeed, mistaken. I do think he's got a very different view of therapy - analysis is not modern CBT, illumination is not the goal. Therapy works in a way that is a little bit offensive to most humans in its simplicity, esp to people like Werner seeing people like ridiculous LA people. He loves Montana for all the reasons he hates therapy, but probably has no idea how many people here are in therapy too, and how it really is the best hope to lower our terrifying suicide rate. He does romanticize a great deal, tbh. It feels like he belongs in another time.
@@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory y'all missing the point he made he didn't comment on a "difference between "I don't believe in therapy" and "I don't believe that therapy will solve everything" - he was making the point that not all people need it, and that those people that don't, do it to say they do, the same way kids get braces when they don't need to
Yeah I couldn’t agree with him less. To use his analogy, living in a house with no lights on is going to mean you are constantly banging into things and hurting yourself and others. Everyone can benefit from understanding themselves better.
I just like knowing a little bit more about myself and how my brain works. And it's nice to have someone to talk to. I never thought therapy would solve all my problems. It just helps me understand them a bit more.
Yeah, Werner has a lot of similar hang ups. For instance, he also believes meditation is simply "woo woo" which is simply not the case, as his good friend David Lynch would attest to.
Werner is like this very enthusiastic and curious alien from another planet being endlessly entertained while trying to analyze, understand and experience the craziness that is the USA.
Honey Boo Boo aside, as somebody born and raised in the American south it was really refreshing to hear Herzog's opinion on the more rural parts of America. We tend to be marginalized as ignorant or uneducated boors in the media, but this is not a complete or 100% accurate picture.
Love his voice so much, so soothing. One of the most fascinating unique original individuals ever. Great actor and guest, Werner Herzog. Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, I never watch those shows but that is the best thing ever. Laughing so hard. 😍🥰😘👑💎⚜️🏆 😆 🤣😂 🎙️🎧
On one hand, having older German family members from Munich, I can tell you that some of his quirks are just very, *very* typically Bavarian, and -- to be honest -- less endearing to me than they are to most people who just take them as eccentricity. On the other hand, he clearly has incredible curiosity about the world and loves people, and I totally get it when he says if he things something could work, he absolutely refuses to give up.
@@aliofly as a guy who's family from Saxony, and not Bavaria, some of the main traits include elitism, conservativism, and self centricity, but these don't really apply to Werner. Some other Bavarian traits that I think he shows are that he's critical of many things, he is quite cynical of certain things, he on occasions belittles things, and is quite stubborn sometimes.
He didn't say he hated it. He said he thought it shouldn't be relied on to solve psychological issues for everyone, but it may be needed for some people. I'd go further and say even it may not be the solution for some serious psychological issues. I lean toward the Anne Wilson Schaef school of process training.
@@DarkMoonWayfarer from the smirk on his face after saying "it hasn't done no good to no one", I don't think he meant it literally, and he then qualifies his statement saying it is necessary in certain clinical cases. Freudian analysis, which I assume he referred to, can certainly be helpful in some cases, but it's not the answer for every psych issue. Analysis can even interfere with personal progress, where physical expression might be more productive. I do disagree with his glib statement about communism being a "utopian" ideology. That's a common misconception about Marxism, of which there are many.
I think it is also important to highlight that Freudian psychoanalysis changed and many different forms of therapy exist and developed in the last century. In some cases it is much more personalised. All in all I get what Herzog was saying, there's a certain fixation with "mental health", that resolves in a lot of talking and performative stuff and very little useful stuff.
Oh dear, i hope I'm wrong, but hearing him speak, i fell like he's visited the museum where I work & I didnt recognize him 😳 he's a big fan of our ski mountains...
I love whatever comes out of Herzog’s mouth. I agree with him on psychoanalysis only because I’ve been thru the ringer throughout high school. If the nice patient ones couldn’t even help me the way art could then it felt pointless. To each their own.
After watching this video, I would like to offer Werner one of my tickets to the 12/15/23 Smackdown event in Green Bay. Please forward this to him accordingly.
lol, I had to remind myself this is a comedy podcast. You can't get more nihilist than "the 20th century was a mistake." You'll never get _this_ on Colbert!
I've been saying for years that pro wrestling is a direct descendant of classical drama & I've been laughed at. Werner bloody Herzog says it & he gets on Conan...
I can see where he is coming from. It's the old "don't pick at a wound or it might get infected"-analogy. Most people are fairly stable and don't have glaring mental/emotinal issues. However, we all have minor issues. If you focus too much attention on a minor issue without actually working towards removing it or improving it that issue WILL become a major issue. And that leads us to another problem. Most therapists run private practicies and are dependant on a stable customer base to survive. They don't really want you to get better. They just want you to feel that you probably need to come back next week for another session and pay 50, 100, 200, whatever dollars to do so. Furthermore, a lot of people don't actually want to do the work required for therapy too be successful. Therapy should 100% be about self-improvement and self-change. "Why can't *I* handle critziscm and what should *I* do to change that aspect of *my* personality?". "Why do *I* break down and cry/get angry whenever things don't go my way?". "Why can't *I* handle people that don't agree with me?". These questions often require deep dives into your own dirty past and once you find that thing (or those things) you need to actually change those behaviours/reactions. That is very hard work that asks you to be brutally honest with yourself and 100% humble before your own shortcomings if it's to be successful. Most people don't really want to go through that crueling, emotinally tough process. They might think they do (or at least that's their official stance) but they don't really have the will or energy to do the work. Instead, they want a shoulder to cry on. Someone who listens to them while they complain about how stupid and mean everyone else is. The second they leave the therapists office they revert back to the same personality they had before. And that suits the therapists just fine. They can keep this person coming back week after week, month after month, year after year. No improvement in sight. No self-realization and change.
very enjoyable but the hardest thing for people is to understand that what is good and bad for you is not so for others. Werner falls into that same chasm, and his authoritative je ne sais quois makes us imagine that his insights apply generally. they don't.
As someone who has tried several types of therapy in the last 10 years and none of it made me feel any better, hearing Werner Herzog, someone I respect to the utmost degree, outright saying that he thinks therapy is a complete waste of time is extremely validating. The only thing that truly helped me was taking up boxing as both exercise and hobby. Which is fitting given the video's theme is Wrestlemania, I suppose.
I have to agree with Herzog on therapy; Every person I know whos gotten therapy came out worse than before. It might've helped in moderation 20-30 years ago, but now it's an overpopulated sector with people who just do it for the money, as it's so widespread now.
It's interesting how he says that if you perfectly illuminated every corner of a home, it would become unlivable, but then he says that a poet can not avert his eyes from the world we live in.
I really want to pay WH to live in my home and read me "Goodnight, Moon" every night to help me fall asleep. His voice is so soothing I'm pretty sure I'd be out before he even reached the end.
All of these Werner Herzog clips you've been posting sre great, is there anywhere to watch the whole thing? I know how to listen to it but not watch it
I don't agree with him on therapy, it has helped a lot of people and comes in many forms and ways of being implemented (even if it's just social interaction of people getting together as a group and talking through things), but everything else he said was spot on
His claim that the 20th century was a mistake is also dodgy in my opinion. The crimes against our own were the same as they have always been, just on a bigger scale thanks to technology and population sizes. But so much more came about in the last century that has provided mankind with benefits and freedoms not seen since the birth of civilisation. And even a global emphasis on accountability and justice for perpetrators of the very human rights abuses he was referring to. They made medical advancements revolutionized healthcare, extended our lifespans and reduced mortality from diseases. They increased education and global literacy, and took huge steps forwards for racial and gender equality. Outside of the wars and famines (which have always been a thing), most people in the 20th century, especially in the latter half, lived better lives than any before them, and it laid the groundwork for a potentially incredible future for our species.
He kept referring specifically to psychoanalysis, which is a type of therapy that is the basis for a lot of current therapy styles, but has sort of fallen off as an approach in and of itself. so i wonder if he didn’t mean all therapy. Or maybe he thinks that all therapy is psychoanalysis which would be wrong. It might be an age thing and/or a cultural thing.
@@JustNiceStuff-ux5nz I’m paraphrasing of course, but with good reason as Herzog has gone on record stating that the 20th century was a mistake. And he is alluding to that here, not just in reference to therapy.
The way he says " Here comes honey boo boo" was amazing and you can see that Conan did not expect that.
7:05
Happy birthday, honey boo boo meme 🎉
Herzog's body movement at, "Boo Boo" is why I came to watch this after listening to the podcast.
No one in the entire world was expecting that!
No one expected that 😳
It starts with psychoanalysis being utterly to useless and ends with a full blown love letter to Wrestlemania. Insanity. Also skating.
I'm not a type of person to get psychoanalysis myself but for him to say it has no value seems a bit ridiculous. I mean if nothing else it allows people a chance to talk through traumatic events with an outsider that they might not feel comfortable talking about with someone that's so close to them.
@@joemckim1183 Doesn't help to talk to a stranger, make some friends and confide in them or you'll collapse into a black hole. No way around it. Therapy never never helps and only gets you hooked on drugs and killed.
@@boomshroom5118Nonsense.
@@boomshroom5118well… that’s a bit of a stretch.
@@joemckim1183 That's actually not what he said - if you listen to his words carefully, he lays out his case and its an interesting point. But you need to bear through it, to get what he means.
The anecdote Werner is talking about regarding wrestling is Wrestlemania X7 in 2001. If you are a wrestling fan, you know this to be arguably the greatest show of all-time.
One match in the show involved Shane Mcmahon vs his father, WWF owner Vince Mcmahon. Vince had his wife drugged andnput her in a wheelchair to watch him beat up their son. The end of the match involved Linda, the wife, rising out of the wheelchair to kick her husband in thebfamily jewels to an absolutely THUNDEROUS ovation. It is both the highest and lowest form of entertainment at once.
He didn't drug her, she had a nervous breakdown because Vince started an affair with Trish Stratus
Vince used that to medically gaslight her@@ShadowAngel606
Don’t forget, there was also a running bit where a one legged man would taunt Vince and eventually he took his walker and like...sped off into the night at the end of a show
@@ShadowAngel606 Yeah, and then he had her drugged. Why would you correct someone if you didn't know what was right?
@@ShadowAngel606@jag1762010 you're both right. She did have a nervous breakdown BUT then she was prescribed medication and Vince over medicated her to keep her sedate..... not quite sure how that would work but the early 00's were pretty wild by today's standards
I love how Werner refers to Linda McMahon as Vince's "alleged wife" 🤣
I mean, he's spot on 😂😂
Bingo! Legally lol
I knew right away he was talking about THAT specific storyline with Vince and Linda in 2000 LMAO
And referring to Vince as “the owner of the franchise”
Linda is still technically married to Vince but their relationship has been not much more than a business relationship for several years you'd have to think.
His love for America literally brought tears to my eyes. I had to pause for a moment. Such a great man and master artist.
If Werner Herzog were to do an impersonation of Bill Hader doing an impersonation of Werner Herzog it would sound exactly like he said, "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo"
“Therapy is a mistake.”
This interview brought to you by BetterHelp!
For real lmaoo
It isn't if you need it though, although I do kinda understand where he comes from, especially the yoga part for 5 year olds.
@@al112v4oh it’s definitely self indulgent sometimes, but I can’t agree that “it hasn’t done anyone any good”
Better help has paid off millions of dollars of college debt for at least 12 psychology majors. That is the going rate for a degree in this American capitlistic hellscape, no?@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
People are going to deeply regret sharing their personal mental and emotional issues to some online stranger, and sooner than they think. It begs for invoking red flag laws to trample their rights.
Herzog's autobiography audible book (he is the narrator) is GREAT. Interesting life and perspectives. Such a unique individual.
i hope he releases a new edition saying "here comes honey boo boo"
but apart from that, yes! my dad used to talk abou him when i was a kid (a child, not even a teenager), but i had no idea his personal life was also so fascinating
This guy gets it - wrestling is an outlandish form of social commentary! Especially from the 80's to late 2000's, as those guys were doing something that had never been done, and they truly came up with it as they went along! They participated in some great satire and parody of society and popular culture - which is why if you watch the interviews of guys like Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Jericho etc - you see some really astute minds.
Ironically, the most astute of them are the ones who got out of the business before injuries and addiction destroyed their minds and bodies. The Rock had the sense to get out when he did. Hulk Hogan was in the game way too long.
The Iron Sheikh.
@@playedout148Yarp-Yarp.
Can you please point to a couple of specific examples of interviews maybe? I'm from Europe, I've never watched wrestling, so I'm curious about how it reflects society of the time. I'm a huge fan of south park for example, I think they've been doing an incredible social commentary for decades now.
Comparing wrestling to Greek Plays is an allusion to Roland Barthes, isn’t it? He’s a Semiotician, which isn’t any huge surprise
Everything explained by him is poetic
This just goes to reaffirm that WrestleMania XVII was a masterful piece of art.
Amen!
wrestling peaked at WM 17.
you catch wrestlemania 40? night 2 was epic!!!
Damn right son
Werner Herzog confirmed as playable character in new Tony Hawk Pro Skater
I actually had to check lol. You never know with Werner.
Understanding the production and presentation of professional wrestling is a versatile gateway to understanding professional politics
'The poet must not close his eyes... Here comes Honey Booboo' 😂
Werner: "Therapy is useless"
Later: "This podcast brought to you by BetterHelp!"
Lol
Bravo.
He says 'psychoanalysis,' not 'therapy.' There are different schools of psychotherapy.
BetterHelp is pretty sketchy to be fair.
This entire clip was riveting and thought provoking ….he speaks with such genuine sincerity. Have him back soon!!
His take on therapy/psycho analysis is interesting. Don't think i agree with it but i can appreciate where he is coming from. Alot to dive into in what he said.
Yeah, he's wrong on that one, it's a generational thing I'm sure.
@@kevinkuenn5733 it’s a mix between generational and cultural. In Post-ww2 Germany there was a huge boom in psychological research and looking back, most of it was wrong and harmful to patients.
Considering his fascination with the dark madness in all his protagonists, his approach to therapy doesn't surprise me.
Well I don't think we can say "he's wrong." Only time will tell.
I don't have a comment on what you said, really - but you used "alot", so I have to share this with you hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
Werner needs to be an unlockable character in whatever the next Skateboarding game is. If they make a Skate 4, they gotta get Werner to voice and then make him playable.
He should be an unlockable character in the next WWE game.
Celebrity survey: The TV show that I wish would make a comeback is…
Bong Joon Ho said, "Mindhunter."
Quentin Tarantino said, "How I Met Your Mother."
Werner Herzog said, "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo."
I would wanna see what the cast of Honey Boo Boo looks like now
Bro Mindhunter
Wrestling is athletic theater.
It's more than that. Pro Wrestling is a show about making a show.
I didn't expect Werner Herzog to have such positive and joyful soul. I'm just sad that I only recently became aware of how much he has contributed to film. This little snippet was wonderful.
Does Werner Herzog acknowledge our tribal chief, Roman Reigns?
This is the most important of questions.
I think the Los Angeles loving Mr. Herzog is pulling for LA Knight!
Werner is more like Judgement Day kinda guy
i hope not
@@brianjl7477YEAH!
I can just Imagine Werner managing Gunther and terrifying the children with his promos.
What Werner says about the fascination of watching something like "Honey Boo Boo" is exactly what I feel about watching stuff like Dog the Bounty Hunter or Dirty Jobs - a show that displays situations that I have never and probably will never be in myself, but shows other Human Beings expertly navigating these very specialized situations. Human Beings are fascinating to watch.
Btw....as someone living in Minnesota who lives 1/3 time in Wisconsin - thanks for the shout out! but shhhh don't reveal how great it is up here! 😉
He shot what I think is his greatest movie, Stroszek, mostly in Wisconsin.
Werner's voice is soo soothing.
New default response to anyone who questions the trash TV you watch:
"The poet must not close his eyes."
I've always thought pro wrestling is the closest equivalent to Shakespeare's theater we have in modern times. The audience is part of the show.
For 12 year olds.
@@playedout148 and middle aged rednecks
Pantomine in lycra.
@@playedout148Most popular culture is made for 12 year olds. Star Wars being probably the most famous example.
Pro wrestling at its core is performance art albeit a very crude version of it
I think there is a difference between "I don't believe in therapy" and "I don't believe that therapy will solve everything". I mean, there surely is an idiotic culture repeating "be better, be better, be better" and of course the sollution to the worlds problems isn't "more therapy". But to just simply deny the good it can do (most people would benefit in knowing themselves a bit more, and psycoanalisys isn't the only way to do that, the field of psycotherapy have many branches and alternatives) sounds simplistic. I love Werner Herzog and I can clearly see that he put a lot thought into what he is saying here; nonetheless, I think he's a bit mistaken.
The data would suggest he is, indeed, mistaken. I do think he's got a very different view of therapy - analysis is not modern CBT, illumination is not the goal. Therapy works in a way that is a little bit offensive to most humans in its simplicity, esp to people like Werner seeing people like ridiculous LA people. He loves Montana for all the reasons he hates therapy, but probably has no idea how many people here are in therapy too, and how it really is the best hope to lower our terrifying suicide rate. He does romanticize a great deal, tbh. It feels like he belongs in another time.
@@standdownrobots_ihaveoldglory y'all missing the point he made
he didn't comment on a "difference between "I don't believe in therapy" and "I don't believe that therapy will solve everything" - he was making the point that not all people need it, and that those people that don't, do it to say they do, the same way kids get braces when they don't need to
Yeah I couldn’t agree with him less. To use his analogy, living in a house with no lights on is going to mean you are constantly banging into things and hurting yourself and others. Everyone can benefit from understanding themselves better.
I just like knowing a little bit more about myself and how my brain works. And it's nice to have someone to talk to. I never thought therapy would solve all my problems. It just helps me understand them a bit more.
Yeah, Werner has a lot of similar hang ups. For instance, he also believes meditation is simply "woo woo" which is simply not the case, as his good friend David Lynch would attest to.
Man understands that story telling is more important than the match itself more so than most wrestlers lol
I’m surprised the AEW marks haven’t bombarded you yet
I now want the audio clip of Werner Herzog saying "Here comes Honey Boo Boo" as my ring/messege-tone.
Someone made one! ua-cam.com/video/6FS9JKeEZss/v-deo.html
Werner is like this very enthusiastic and curious alien from another planet being endlessly entertained while trying to analyze, understand and experience the craziness that is the USA.
Honey Boo Boo aside, as somebody born and raised in the American south it was really refreshing to hear Herzog's opinion on the more rural parts of America. We tend to be marginalized as ignorant or uneducated boors in the media, but this is not a complete or 100% accurate picture.
Wow, that was as excellent as I knew it would be. Much respect 🦋
Love his voice so much, so soothing. One of the most fascinating unique original individuals ever. Great actor and guest, Werner Herzog. Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, I never watch those shows but that is the best thing ever. Laughing so hard. 😍🥰😘👑💎⚜️🏆 😆 🤣😂 🎙️🎧
Now this is a GOATed guest 😮
On one hand, having older German family members from Munich, I can tell you that some of his quirks are just very, *very* typically Bavarian, and -- to be honest -- less endearing to me than they are to most people who just take them as eccentricity. On the other hand, he clearly has incredible curiosity about the world and loves people, and I totally get it when he says if he things something could work, he absolutely refuses to give up.
What are the typically Bavarian traits you mean if you don’t mind sharing?
@@aliofly as a guy who's family from Saxony, and not Bavaria, some of the main traits include elitism, conservativism, and self centricity, but these don't really apply to Werner. Some other Bavarian traits that I think he shows are that he's critical of many things, he is quite cynical of certain things, he on occasions belittles things, and is quite stubborn sometimes.
@@alioflyno.
I want Werner Hertzog saying "Here Comes Honey Boo-boo" to be my new text alert
We need the full episode!
This guy is awesome. A terribly deep thinker.
Herzog hates psychoanalysis? We really need a Herzog vs Zizek debate. I've no doubt they'd get on like a house on fire.
There's already an ai version of that online. I'm not kidding ya
He didn't say he hated it. He said he thought it shouldn't be relied on to solve psychological issues for everyone, but it may be needed for some people. I'd go further and say even it may not be the solution for some serious psychological issues. I lean toward the Anne Wilson Schaef school of process training.
@@foolishsamurai Yeah I know. It's actually quite funny.
@@DarkMoonWayfarer from the smirk on his face after saying "it hasn't done no good to no one", I don't think he meant it literally, and he then qualifies his statement saying it is necessary in certain clinical cases. Freudian analysis, which I assume he referred to, can certainly be helpful in some cases, but it's not the answer for every psych issue. Analysis can even interfere with personal progress, where physical expression might be more productive. I do disagree with his glib statement about communism being a "utopian" ideology. That's a common misconception about Marxism, of which there are many.
I think it is also important to highlight that Freudian psychoanalysis changed and many different forms of therapy exist and developed in the last century. In some cases it is much more personalised.
All in all I get what Herzog was saying, there's a certain fixation with "mental health", that resolves in a lot of talking and performative stuff and very little useful stuff.
Oh dear, i hope I'm wrong, but hearing him speak, i fell like he's visited the museum where I work & I didnt recognize him 😳 he's a big fan of our ski mountains...
For those of you who haven't seen this man's films he made in the 70's, please do your self a favor. Start with 'Aguirre:The Wrath of God'
I prefer the 70s films of Russ Meyer.
Werner Herzog needs to be a Commentator on Wrestlemania!
Now!!
He should be the booker
A lot of nuanced wisdom regarding the American political divide that I wasn't expecting
Interesting man. Great interview Conan
A great guest and true philosopher.
Paul F Tompkins must have absolutely eaten this up. He plays Herzog perfectly. 4:10 “the futility” perfect 😂
Chris Hedges has a stunning chapter on wrestling in his book Empire of Illusion.
7:05 - Among the greatest sounds ever uttered by the human species
My favourite man alive- I am such a fan of him.
Herzog is an Honorary Skateboarder. Earn you marks “Artists.”
I asked my therapist for cycle analysis, but thought my request was pedestrian
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Linking this for future reference 😂
Madness reigns...here comes Honey Boo Boo
Someone should take this audio and edit a documentary to it.
I would LOVE to know what Werner Herzog thinks of telenovelas.
😂
I love whatever comes out of Herzog’s mouth. I agree with him on psychoanalysis only because I’ve been thru the ringer throughout high school. If the nice patient ones couldn’t even help me the way art could then it felt pointless. To each their own.
After watching this video, I would like to offer Werner one of my tickets to the 12/15/23 Smackdown event in Green Bay. Please forward this to him accordingly.
Werner Herzog needs to do a collab video with German in Venice about their appreciation of LA.
Werner Herzog is a treasure... he can narrate my life =)
lol, I had to remind myself this is a comedy podcast. You can't get more nihilist than "the 20th century was a mistake." You'll never get _this_ on Colbert!
It heartens me that a man like Herzog is not too repulsed by this country to choose to live here.
I wish he would do the lead in voice over to this year's Wrestlemania
The fact that Werner Herzog respects wrestling on any level means that I can die at least *somewhat* fulfilled lol
I've been saying for years that pro wrestling is a direct descendant of classical drama & I've been laughed at. Werner bloody Herzog says it & he gets on Conan...
He isn't wrong!
I want to know more about his pact with the skateboarders 😂😂😂
I can see where he is coming from. It's the old "don't pick at a wound or it might get infected"-analogy. Most people are fairly stable and don't have glaring mental/emotinal issues. However, we all have minor issues. If you focus too much attention on a minor issue without actually working towards removing it or improving it that issue WILL become a major issue. And that leads us to another problem. Most therapists run private practicies and are dependant on a stable customer base to survive. They don't really want you to get better. They just want you to feel that you probably need to come back next week for another session and pay 50, 100, 200, whatever dollars to do so. Furthermore, a lot of people don't actually want to do the work required for therapy too be successful. Therapy should 100% be about self-improvement and self-change. "Why can't *I* handle critziscm and what should *I* do to change that aspect of *my* personality?". "Why do *I* break down and cry/get angry whenever things don't go my way?". "Why can't *I* handle people that don't agree with me?". These questions often require deep dives into your own dirty past and once you find that thing (or those things) you need to actually change those behaviours/reactions. That is very hard work that asks you to be brutally honest with yourself and 100% humble before your own shortcomings if it's to be successful. Most people don't really want to go through that crueling, emotinally tough process. They might think they do (or at least that's their official stance) but they don't really have the will or energy to do the work. Instead, they want a shoulder to cry on. Someone who listens to them while they complain about how stupid and mean everyone else is. The second they leave the therapists office they revert back to the same personality they had before. And that suits the therapists just fine. They can keep this person coming back week after week, month after month, year after year. No improvement in sight. No self-realization and change.
Werner Herzog: man of the people
He really is, though! At least I think so.
I would pay money to see a documentary about him hangin out with his skateboarder friends.
The gravity in his voice really sells the message. Seriously
Werner is a philosopher, among his many other skills.
Wernern Herzog is a good man❤
8:00 words of wisdom. Even more, the neglect is probably intentional.
very enjoyable but the hardest thing for people is to understand that what is good and bad for you is not so for others. Werner falls into that same chasm, and his authoritative je ne sais quois makes us imagine that his insights apply generally. they don't.
I think I like Mr Herzog better and better. Good stab at the pseudo of psychoanalysis and then the madness and beauty of LA.
I would love to just listen to Werner talk about him and Kinski for a couple hours lol
As someone who has tried several types of therapy in the last 10 years and none of it made me feel any better, hearing Werner Herzog, someone I respect to the utmost degree, outright saying that he thinks therapy is a complete waste of time is extremely validating. The only thing that truly helped me was taking up boxing as both exercise and hobby. Which is fitting given the video's theme is Wrestlemania, I suppose.
7:04 for everyone coming from the latest clip
I would love to hear Herzog's take on Anime
I have to agree with Herzog on therapy; Every person I know whos gotten therapy came out worse than before. It might've helped in moderation 20-30 years ago, but now it's an overpopulated sector with people who just do it for the money, as it's so widespread now.
Love his voice
Someone has to show Mr. Herzog the South Park episode "W.T.F." (the "Wrestling Takedown Federation").
I kept thinking of that exactly.
Why isn't "Here comes honey boo boo" a 2000s era ringtone yet?
Herzog is much better than I ever knew. He isn't even that "intellectual" in a negative sense, he's talking pretty straight forward.
Hold up playa… tonight you’re gonna go one on one with … Da Grizzly Man!
That was incredible! Once in a lifetime! State of the Union, Key to life, all wrapped up in one man! I thought it was just me! :)
Does he mean Freudian psychoanalysis? Or therapy in general? Because psychoanalysis can have a very specific meaning.
I'm not convinced he knows the difference. Freud's work should be only considered from a historical perspective.
I'm not convinced he knows the difference. Freud's work should be only considered from a historical perspective.
Master filmmaker, revolutionary behind the camera, and has the best sense of “humor”
It's interesting how he says that if you perfectly illuminated every corner of a home, it would become unlivable, but then he says that a poet can not avert his eyes from the world we live in.
I really want to pay WH to live in my home and read me "Goodnight, Moon" every night to help me fall asleep. His voice is so soothing I'm pretty sure I'd be out before he even reached the end.
5:26:
Conan: "You've watched the Kardashians?"
Werner: "Um....."
This man is our last defense line against the Order of Body Language Experts
Madness reigns!
Never forget, Herzog is on the skaters side! 🛹❤️
All of these Werner Herzog clips you've been posting sre great, is there anywhere to watch the whole thing? I know how to listen to it but not watch it
lmao all I can hear is Paul F Tompkins doing the Grizzly Man bit
7:05 Dare you not to click this timestamp five times.
This needs more likes. Stroszek is one of the best movies of all time. Love Werner Herzog!
'So many people in love with their problems' - The Talking Heads
7:05
i believe what he's talking about in the first 5 mins is what the red hot chili peppers sang about in Californication
I don't agree with him on therapy, it has helped a lot of people and comes in many forms and ways of being implemented (even if it's just social interaction of people getting together as a group and talking through things), but everything else he said was spot on
His claim that the 20th century was a mistake is also dodgy in my opinion. The crimes against our own were the same as they have always been, just on a bigger scale thanks to technology and population sizes. But so much more came about in the last century that has provided mankind with benefits and freedoms not seen since the birth of civilisation. And even a global emphasis on accountability and justice for perpetrators of the very human rights abuses he was referring to.
They made medical advancements revolutionized healthcare, extended our lifespans and reduced mortality from diseases. They increased education and global literacy, and took huge steps forwards for racial and gender equality. Outside of the wars and famines (which have always been a thing), most people in the 20th century, especially in the latter half, lived better lives than any before them, and it laid the groundwork for a potentially incredible future for our species.
He kept referring specifically to psychoanalysis, which is a type of therapy that is the basis for a lot of current therapy styles, but has sort of fallen off as an approach in and of itself. so i wonder if he didn’t mean all therapy. Or maybe he thinks that all therapy is psychoanalysis which would be wrong. It might be an age thing and/or a cultural thing.
@@FantasticOtto He was saying therapy was one of the 20th century's greatest mistakes, not that the 20th century was a mistake.
@@JustNiceStuff-ux5nz I’m paraphrasing of course, but with good reason as Herzog has gone on record stating that the 20th century was a mistake. And he is alluding to that here, not just in reference to therapy.