Hey BEAT family, you know that if I ever call out someone by name, then it's pretty serious. I have a responsibility to warn the flock of false teachers. The Bible says quite a bit about that in the New Testament. Today I want to present to you several statements Joyce Meyer has made over the years and I want to encourage you to evaluate these in light of what the Bible says and then share your thoughts below. I hope you find this video informative and helpful as you assess and evaluate who you do and do not listen to. Blessings,
@darrell penn if you play violent games yes if you play clean games like educational games it'd be different but anything that takes the place of spending time with the lord is sinful
@Sam Fondren No, but you can draw more people to learn and study the word with honey rather than beating them over the head with a Bible! Both ways are needed though! :) God bless!
@Sam Fondren Honestly, I didnt read most of your post. I have no idea why your trying to argue with me, but what you're doing doesn't draw people to Christ, showing love does. We start off as babes in Christ and grow to mature in him. People need to know the whole Bible not just a part of it. What's to argue about?? That's the truth. Stop being augmentative, stop fighting your own brothers and sisters in Christ and put that energy into saving lost souls. God bless :)
Have you heard her lately? She has been more than willing to admit that she has grown and received the grace of God just like us… it’s wonderful that God has more grace and love and gives us us more chances….
Don’t be swept up in this age of biblical illiteracy. As Charles Spurgeon said “ Be walking Bibles” Let’s all pray for discipline to know the Word and rely on it!
No disrespect but you must be a calvanist? Usually, i have noticed from studying behaviors and religion behaviors that calvanists quote teachers more than the bible. Usually they also look at titles like PhD, doctorate, MD, etc as a sign of trust, thus worshipping title over truth, even if the person has no title. The bible says in 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. If you follow piper, white and durbin, please i implore you to walk away from these men teaching false heressies. White even defends Islam, do your research.
@@savedbygrace1176 Did Robert say he was a Calvinist? Wow! You judged that man before he could answer the question. By the way, I'm not a Calvinist, but a Christian. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Saved by Grace no I am non denominational and I do believe that we should have the Bible written in our hearts, hence Charles Spugeon believing that we should be walking Bibles. I only trust the authority of Jesus and the and the and the Bible. I do not condone most of the false teaching prevalent today.
Evanglist Michelle do you think that the purpose of speaking in tongues was to be able to spread the Gospel to places where they spoke other languages? Reflecting back to the day of Pentecost in the upper room?
First of all you are soooo wrong speaking in tongues is gibberish that no one can interpret. Tongues are Languages. Most people who speak in tongues and you ask them to interpret they cannot.
This isn't entirely true the way the guy is putting it is misleading I think personally .....and i was prayed over to receive tongues many years ago I did receive the gift which i use in my own personal prayer time with god in my private place of prayer and i did notice he didn't expand on it or give details as to how she was doing it .. at least give us detailed analysis if you are going to try and rip into someone !! Just saying
Thank you, Allen, for speaking the Truth of God's Word! People are being led astray by false teachers and heresy and the Church is being too silent. Yes, we must lovingly, yet firmly, contend for the Faith - it's our responsibility.
I've never met, heard or seen a perfect Christian yet! All of us have been deceived or mistaken at some point. It is our responsibility to read and know the bible, and to pray for discernment.
Who is asking for a "perfect Christian"? Name one person. Pointing out someone's abuse of Scripture is not asking for sinless perfectionism. And while many can be deceived, please note that Meyer has claimed to receive messages from God, some of which she now appears to have renounced. So was she lying when she claimed to have God's inspiration earlier, or was she deceived? If the latter, why does she still teach?
Not just read it, but read it according to itself. People read the Bible according to things they heard or take pieces of it that they like and read the rest of it based off that.
I absolutely agree we need to read our bibles for ourselves. So important as this is how we really get to know God’s character, how much He loves us, in so so many scriptures.
you should read ABOUT the Bilble...that is real knowledge! the history behind, how it was modified and shaped and the horrible messages that it contains
I started as a young Christian listening to J.M. I went and saw her in person at one of her conferences but sadly walked away never to go back at all ..She told everyone who wanted to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, speak in tongues, to stand up and she said a prayer ..Hundreds if not thousands stood up and it was chaos ...I knew that we were supposed to have an interpreter with only one speaking at a time ...I was hurt and disappointed..We cannot be misled because there's already so much confusion on that subject . Praying in tongues is a beautiful gift and not to be misused or misled..
Well there’s two different types of speaking in tounges. I don’t have much knowledge of speaking in tounges but I’m pretty sure that one instance dose not need an interpreter and that’s your personal tounges. There is another instance where you speak in tounges to edify the church in a profetic way and that’s what needs an interpreter
"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. [28] But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." - 1 Corinthians 14:27-28@@anthonygabriel9960
I saw her about 15 years ago, and she looked me in the eye and said, 'speak in tongues'. I'll never forget that look she gave me when I said nothing....after that, I never listened to her again.
You are absolutely right, and nowhere in the bible did any human being teach another human being to speak in tongues. It is a gift that comes only from God. It can not be taught by a human being. I totally agree with you. God bless you. 🙏
@@leonabanks5591 Jesus is God phillippians chapter 2 vs 6 Being in the FORM of God. Also check out Titus chapter 2 vs 14 and 15. Last but not least Acts chapter 7 vs 59 When Stephen ask God to receive his spirit what name did he use? I'll give you a hint his initials are J.C.
@@chad9487 1 john chapter 5 vs 7 there are 3 that bear record in heaven The Father the word and the holy ghost and these 3 are ONE. John chapter 10 vs 30 Jesus states I and my father are ONE.
Me too... I attended their conferences... Morris Cerrulo, Benny Hinn.. Thought to myself much hype nothing to gain.. For some reason they liked 🇰🇪 Kenya.. By the time TDJakes came, I was tired already.. Then for some reasons I stopped listening to all of them..
This was so incredibly informative! Thank you for putting this together! What’s sad is Christ knew there would be so many false teachers.. and its just so exhausting all the time to have to dissect a sermon.. and as you said, most of us growing in our faith and sort of at the beginning of our faith journey don’t always know enough of the scriptures to back it up. But people like Joyce need to be held accountable for their heresy.
The first time I listened to a Joyce Meyer broadcast, the holy Spirit impressed upon my mind that the way in which she was talking and what she was saying was not from God. I happened to stumble across her programs a few more times over the years and during each of those times the Spirit of God quickly reminded me of the contrast between her words and Scripture. Thank you Lord for guiding me. And thank you, brother Allen for your excellent presentation of the facts.
@@tenacious-e3o PREACH.My dad used to just look at us and we would sit down...Jesus just stare and those demons will run like scattered roaches when the lights turn on..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂SERIOUSLY
I watch Joyce, and can appreciate the work GOD has done in her Life. I always watch you as well. Thank you for Bible Encouragement and Truth. Been a fan since 2014. My question/concern is you reached back to 1993 (if I heard you correctly)... Could she not have the benefit of growing in her faith and convictions since then. Mind you, every point you made was spot on... But I would like to think " she doesn't project that hearsay today, because God is ever molding and shaping us. The spirit of discernment is key of course to a lot of what we hear on these airways today. I pray you continued strength and wisdom.
It’s our duty as Christians to know the Bible for ourselves. To many people hang on to every word a Pastor, teacher, evangelists, or even worship leaders that what they speak or sing must be biblical especially if they are well known. Read and study the Bible for yourselves so you aren’t deceived.
Best lesson that I learned the HARD way. I was under what I thought was a bible based church only to find out they were condoning sin in droves!! The bible taught me that. My "pastor" was Not of God. So sad because it was a megachurch. Leading people straight to hell. Lord help!
Yep...Study to show yourself approved...dude I can’t even believe everything you say even though you believe that you’re straight out of the Bible every time you say something...dude why is it your ministry to bash other ministries ...you may say I’m doing a service to the body of Christ and making sure that I expose false teachers.... I believe we grow in what we know...I’m sure 20 years from now you may look back at your videos and say wow I was teaching that?
@@sylviaa.ryndock2720 I fell for the same thing Sylvia - if Joyce Meyer has such a following, how could she be wrong, right? I used to believe what she said as well but then - and this was not directed at Joyce herself - God challenged me to read the Bible as it was written, not understood by others and filtered by their understanding (which are doctrines of men or traditions of men (as Jesus called it)) Not so long God gave me a dream explaining to me that I am doing both - following man and God and seeing no results because of it. I came to see how biased I was towards my favourite preachers but when challenged by what God showed me, had to learn that standing on the Word alone forced me to accept some things being said by these teachers were heresies. It was hard on me because I drank the Cool-Aid for so long. I am not young anymore but slowly getting myself untangled from false teachings. I have also realized, until I know the Bible well enough, I cant keep on listening to teachings that might be false or some parts that are and ' eat the meat and spit out the bones' because I am not sure always what is meat and what is bones. Slowly I am getting the hang of it because once you know the truth, it will set you free and you will be able to identify the counterfeit. 99% of poisons are normally good nutritional foods and only 1% the actual poison. Do you know the Bible well enough to spot the 1%? Let the Holy Spirit be your teacher, check everything else out like a good Berean and dont favour anybody.
Thats one of the most disgraceful things I have ever heard!! Joel Osteen & his wife r corrupted also. One day I tuned in to hear for myself, and what was coming out of both of their mouths was blasphemous. I turned that channel so fast!! I should have prayed for them, but was just so disgusted.!!
When prosperity and being a better version of yourself is preached more than salvation, Sin and Jesus's second coming you need to question is this from God or the devil. God is not an atm machine or a genie in a bottle. We are already abundantly blessed by what Jesus alone did on the cross 🩸🐑🦁🙏🌏🙏✝️ Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior. Galatians 1:8-9 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. Revelation 22:18-19 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. #antichrist #falseprophets
@@NMDecember1 God bless your heart for this beautiful Bible based testimony!!! My older Sister reacted to this video (I shared it with her) in a manner in which I didn't expect. She didn't react well, so that the conversation has been postponed until tomorrow. I assumed that she understood certain things that she doesn't. I pray that the Holy Ghost leads in the manner I communicate so she knows my efforts proceed out of godly love. I've also chosen revelation 22:18-19 as part of my dialogue. 🙏 God's best in Christ Jesus; God the Son. ✝️
My mom falls for these obvious shills and thinks that it is your moral obligation to donate money, even if you are not in the position to. These people are fakes and taking advantage of the vulnerable, Sickening beyond belief.
I'm a Christian 63 years old and have listened to pretty much ALL of them and attended different ones for decades. So much confusion amongst SO many.... God help us.
And this is why you are confused and probably frustrated. First of all, if your relationship with the Lord is strong and unshakable you will not be confused, GOD will not allow you or cause you to be confused. You need to STOP trying to find the right preacher, or teacher, you need to pray for wisdom, knowledge and ask the Lord to guide you. GOD takes care of those that LOVE HIM. Seek the Lord first and the rest will fall into place just like a puzzle. You have no idea what you're missing!!
I agreed with everything you said until the very last thing: we are not supposed to listen to false teachers and glean out the good stuff. We are not supposed to have anything to do whatsoever with false teachers and we should not associate with them in any way.
I can't believe how these false teachers deceive so many. So thankful I haven't fallen prey to these. It's important to (as you have) evaluate the teacher's message and discern if it aligns with the Word of God. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world." 1 John 4:1-3 (KJV)
Daniel Arthur, " Amen. I, literally, asked a person whether or not they could confess that Jesus is come in the flesh and they replied: " No ! " That was enough for me to stop listening to their " teaching ! "
@Justin Durham For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love. You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion is not from Him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is. But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed. I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves! - Galatians 5:1-12
a "good" false teacher is always good at using truth to smuggle in lies though. there are a few messages ive heard from her that line up completely with scripture but thats when its so easy to slip in opinion or conjecture and pass it off as truth. even the devil uses scripture to try to seem like hes telling the truth
"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has FAITH [ in the righteousness of God ] but does not have WORKS [ or the righteousness of Christ in him ]? CAN THAT FAITH SAVE HIM?" (James 2:14) "You believe that God is one [ Christ and God are one ]: you do well. Even the demons [ who do not believe in the righteousness of Christ ] believe [ that God is one ]--- and shudder!. " (V.19) "Beloved, do not believe every [ manifestation of ] spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets [, FALSE MINISTERS/ PASTORS who teach AGAINST WORKS, ] HAVE GONE OUT INTO THE WORLD. By this you know the Spirit of God: every [ manifestation of ] spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh [, or confesses the deity or righteousness of Christ, ] IS FROM GOD, and every [ manifestation of ] spirit that does not confess [ the deity or righteousness of ] Jesus IS NOT FROM GOD." (1 John 4:2-3) "Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. "Never, Lord!", he said. "This [ suffering and death ] shall never happen to you!" Jesus turned and said to Peter, "GET BEHIND ME, SATAN! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men." " (Matthew 16:22,23 NIV) This manifestation of Satan in the person of Peter was a HINDRANCE to Jesus' accomplishment of God's will and therefore also to His attaining the righteousness of His own --- the righteousness of Christ. Likewise, every manifestation of spirit [ in the person of a teacher/ minister/ pastor ] that hinders a believer from straining forward to the goal of attaining the righteousness of Christ IS NOT FROM GOD.
Mendel Enyan They are preaching. Prosperity gospel. A live your best life now Joyce Meyers said Jesus died and went to hell and THE FATHER was I. Heaven wringing his hands and the demons jumped up and down o. Jesus..... this is heresy Jesus paid for our sins ON THE CROSS and demons were not jumping up and down on his back like she says None of the ever mention he’ll, sin or repentance. And Benny Hinn has told people they were healed and they went home and threw away their medicine or quit taking chemo and DIED he does no physical healings . All the people that are really paralyzed and in wheel chairs are kept in the back of the auditorium. Todd White does fake leg lengthening. Do you think Jesus likes that. And Joel Olsteen thinks there is more than one way to get to heaven. He thinks Mormons, Hindus all religions can get to heaven if they are good people. I could go on and on, but it’s simple. They are preaching a different Jesus..... Not the one of the Bible
Hey! I do listen to Joyce and have for more than 13 years. I knew her more so work after the teachings that were displayed within this video. I do believe in a person's evolution and becoming more inclined to what God truly desires for us as we move through time. I think God gives a grace to learn as we go and correct our stances from stage to stage. I think the teachings from her early ministry show her passion for christ, though they may have had some mistakes, I think today she is much more evolved and a lot less to teach in such a way that is heretic. She's definitely not a wealth fanatic in my opinion and some of the material used could've been taken out of context or not just like we do with the Bible scriptures. In love and respect, thanks for sharing!
Time is better spent READING and STUDYING Scripture than listening to "false prophets and teachers." There are MANY men who preach ONLY what Scripture says. I am the one laughing and jeering....at this sad woman. She does not even understand that Christ IS God the Creator!!
She straight-up made her preaching say what she wanted it to say. It wasn't based in Scripture at all. I can't speak to now, but be careful. So, so very careful.
The only thing we actually need to do is having a personal relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ and not be led/deceived by international preachers or prophets.
I agree that we should never rely on them more than we do the Holy Spirit but God did gave them to us to help us. However, we are to automatically accept what they say but search the scriptures to see if what they say is true and many do not do that. They just rely on what their Pastor or others say. They spend more time studying the bible and with God and praying and God gives the understanding and revelation that they should share with us, if we are ready to receive it. So though they do have some responsibility towards us, we still have responsibility for ourselves. But haven't you had scriptures you have read a hundred times and yet there was something you failed to see or catch. We all do that but unless we spend a lot of time studying and meditating on scripture.........we may never have gotten the understanding we need. So many times I have a minister of God share what they have learned and suddenly that scripture makes sense. You just know its right. The more this happens, the more you realize how all of the bible works together. Those times it seems to contradict itself are times that we haven't rightly divided the word. One thing that Billy Brim teaches is that you have to know who they are talking to and talking about. Some parts are for the world and some for the church and some for the jews.
Judas had a personal relationship with Jesus, how'd that work out? Adam and Eve had a personal relationship with God in the garden, how'd that work out? Cain had a personal relationship with God, Satan has a personal relationship with God - how did those work out? Can you find "Its about a personal relationship with Jesus" somewhere in scriptures and quote it to me? No, because its not scriptural or found in scriptures. Its about REPENT and BELIEVE! Jesus said in Luke 24: 47 "Repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in my name to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem" What are we to preach to all the nations? A personal relationship? Or Repent in the name of Jesus to have your sins forgiven!!
I stopped listening to her a few years ago, can’t give an exact reason as to why, I just felt it in my spirit that it was time to stop. Thank you for your insight.
Yes God can reveal tu us a false prophet we have the holy spirit within us as believers of christ so we automatically know something isn't right or something is off when we see a false teacher or even a false christian
Who's interpretation? Many things are misunderstood & misinterpreted by leaders from the Bible. People have no historical, cultural, or spiritual context to rightly interpret the scriptures.
@@andyt3789 I believe there are some things in the Bible that's open to different interpretations or there wouldn't be so many different denominations. However, there are some things in Christianity that's universal.
Wilbur Mcbride Interpretation must always yield to sound true doctrine,for truth is not subject to man’s understanding but to God or error,wrong doctrine,and misapplication of scripture,goofyness,and much divisions arise. Thus denominations. It wasn’t this way with the Apostles.
@@robertkartechner5850 I’m aware of that. I don’t believe she’s one. No one is perfect and gets everything right all the time. People grow in grace and understanding as they continue seeking/walking with the Lord overtime. If she really is a false teacher, my job is to pray for her.
God can use anyone and anything to change someones heart. He's a big God. But I also know that I personally was led astray my whole life in a church where a lot of the people believe in her teachings. I feel that only recently I've come to understand what the Gospel is and who Christ is. No book written by man can ever replace the holy and inspired Bible. Of course there are many books out there that can help explain things in the same way that we have preachers who teach sermons. But please please read the Word for yourself and know that you know without a doubt what the Gospel is truly about. The things the Bible talks about arent in there for no reason. Every word was chosen by God to be in there and Joyce Meyer is one of the many people who manipulate the Bible, add to it, and outright lie. Pray about it and make sure you dont get caught up in making being someones fan or supporter more important than knowing what God actually said
She is very much a false prophet! She says Jesus was born again when he descended to hell! He IS and WAS God so He did NOT need to be born again. That’s only 1 of her false statements. Saying she is no longer a sinner is another. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. Her and Joel Osteen are in the same rocky boat.
You cannot " teach" anyone to speak in tongues! That is a gift from God. Not everyone will have that gift! I'm so glad you made this video. I have watched her off and on for years. I never saw the videos she did, that you posted, I'm just flabbergasted! Wow! What an eye opener!!😲🙏🕊
Tweety Bird apparently someone don’t know scripture... There’s a difference between the gift of tongues/ interpretation and personal praying in tongues that Paul mentioned later on in scripture
@@jondough7777777 We are never taught to pray in tongues. The word even says tongues are for unbelievers as a sign. They heard the gospel being proclaimed in their own language not babbling in coherently.
A lot of people are turned off by speaking in tongues. I had a girl tell me that she and her family tried and tried to speak in tongues and it never happened. I think some Christians think if you don't speak in tongues you are not a Christian. It was a year after my salvation before I was able to speak in tongues. I knew I was spirit filled. The Lord showed me things other people around me could not see. And some of it was absolutely breath taking.
This sounds like very old teaching. I’ve heard her recently saying that she’s made a lot of mistakes. She spoke about how her attitude was absolutely awful she said probably worse than anybody else. She also said some of her teachings were wrong. Not defending her but perhaps she has learned from it.
@@JenJohnson Paul called out some false teachers by name. 2 timothy 4:10, 2 timothy 1:15, 1 timothy 1:19-20, 2 timothy 2:17, and more. We are not to rejoice in the exposing of false teachers but it is OUR job to protect give a defense to the Gospel of which these false teachers are tainting. Joyce is still a false teacher, just because she repented from the prosperity gospel, does not mean that she isnt so wrong in other aspects.
No she has not repented. She is still teaching the same word of faith heresies and she believes them. Check here... reformationcharlotte.org/2019/01/10/joyce-meyer-admits-shes-been-preaching-a-false-gospel-sort-of/
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
Wow this is deep. That’s why it’s important to read the Word for yourself and show yourself approve! Never ever take another person’s word for it always read the Bible for yourself, I don’t care who is preaching!
Go to God in prayer talk to him like you would talk to any other being he's waiting to hear what you have to say he's just like any other you can talk to him about anything and he won't tell another soul your business so go into a private place in your home etc and just start talking he can hear you along with millions of others trust him he's almighty
Word mean nothing if the action is still their! She still to this day, takes huge offerings for herself/ministry and promotes blessings for giving! That’s called prosperity Gospel! She’s putting makeup on pig....
Well concerning her still asking offerings.. now she just showed repentance for old mindsets (which we all will do as we continue to grow in the word ) but the bible said shouldn't we share all good things with those who teach? Let's read our bible and have grace, the same grace we want to be shown, the same mercy ..
Hi I am just wondering if it’s a good idea to purchase the Amplified Bible by Joyce Meyer? My Christian counsellor, she is suggesting it to me….. Please let me know.
All doctrine comes from the Lord, and from the Lord alone, not humankind, and that's the first mistake that new believers do, instead, they take a mainstream preacher's words as ironclad divine advice rather than searching the scriptures and asking the Lord for advice.
@@Dhaema09 unfortunately she was in her 50's when she wrote this book and a believer for many years, so we can't conclude she was young in her faith. It's so important we as Christians know the bible forward and backward to know the truth and be able to discern the truth.
Give credit where it is due, BUT what is the difficulty American-centric believers have of confusingng BIG MEDIA BUSINESS and the simple humble Truth of The Living Holy One. yeh, fair enough if she says stuff which helps. Heck, shouldn't we all do such? But we can jump off feeling like we owe her business anything. Almost starting to see a world like the short movie hyper-reality when the virtual augmented reality user gets there DNA ID stolen/defrauded, and when they desperately try to find a way out? guided to an app by X X and Y media entertainments. Holy Roman Church. Pay pay pay, and up to level one. Stick you straight back into the Babylon you just got cheated by. Instead of just switching it all off and praying!
I can't underestimate how her words have definitely assisted folk. But it does come across so business-model like. And you can't help, despite it harming yourself to think so "how much cosmetic surgery are we supprting here"?
"Dragging me with her". You personally? Did she grab your hand and literally drag you out? Were you kicking and screaming or did you stand up and go willingly? Where did she take you? What happened next? Help us understand why now.
I’ve always had an issue with these “Mega Church” preachers. Most of them are just sitting on millions and millions of dollars and still asking their congregation for a private jet. “Give us money and you’ll receive your healing and be blessed 10x”. I don’t trust ‘em.
I was in a multi-million dollar church for many years. I work over there as a childcare worker. This church had hundreds maybe a thousand people there, and I hardly had any friends. It took a invisible virus and quarantine for me to realize that I stayed at the church for many years because I love those kids at the childcare so much, I didn't want to leave them. They were the only reason I miss that church. Recently, God weigh heavily in my heart that it's time for me to resign as a worker and member there. I am sending my resignation email tomorrow to my boss. No matter the circumstance God is good!
G G yes we are to be like the Bereans, Acts17:11 they were of noble character.....because after Paul preached to them they went to the scriptures to make sure Paul’s preaching lined up with the WORD of GOD!!!!🙏🏻🙏🏾🔯✝️🙏🏻🙏🏾 LORD help us from false preaching!!!!!
The sad thing is most of us here in the comments are not going to search the scriptures ourselves but take your word that she was speaking error which defeats the purpose of discerning truth. GO READ YOUR BIBLE FOR YOURSELF, so that you will learn to identify truth from error.
@@arizonafuelmanagement3573 and where's the evidence of this? If we were studying to show ourselves approved the church/leaders/Christians will not be in reproach right now. My people perish because of a lack of knowledge not because the word of God is not available but because don't read for ourselves, we rather listen to a "good sermon" than make time for study. There's nothing cynical about my comment but thank you for your well wishes i wish the same for you.
Thank you for enlightening me on Joyce Meyers's faults in her early ministry. I have recently started listening to some of her sermons. I never thought of her as a prosperity teacher because I never hear her say (now) that if we believe we will become wealthy and have a great life. I am glad that what I have heard so far has led me to understand she really wants people to abide in Christ, cast their cares on Him (one of the most recent videos i watched), and live a life forgiving and helping others.
Please keep in mind that these quotes are nearly 30 years old. I believe she is a wiser and more discerning woman today. But we all have to prove ALL teachings against the Word of God. The verses he chose backed up what he said, but there are also some verses that back up some of the things she preached - interpretation. i.e. we are no longer ‘sinners’, as believers, if you believe that we are “a new creation, the old has gone and the new has come.” True, we still sin, but we are righteous in Christ Jesus.
You all need to stop judging her, everyone has an opinion, do you ever think you may be wrong. These things were said many years ago, I also said stupid things when I first became a Christian. I have found her helpful and encouraging, you can't blame her if someone doesn't respond to you, are you trying to test God. Let God be the judge. I'm sure your life is not perfect either, look at yourself.
I've been turned off eventually by preachers over the years, I used to watch tbn and was introduced to various ones over the past 20 years. I've gotten so much wisdom and knowledge about the bible from Joyce. Her sermons truly speak to me. She's totally down to earth. She also is involved with helping people all over the world, so I know she changes lives in many ways. She always talks about her faults, she's like the rest of us. Not perfect by any means. Love her, please God, watch over her and others who put you first.
I am a massive, I mean massive fan of Joyce Meyer and while listening to your video about her being a false teacher, on some points I can understand why you might think that but to me that's like saying God dosent speak to anyone anymore especially to those that can be a vessel for his word and truth In this modern world which feel she Is where life and temptations are more prominent, powerful and harder to avoid everywhere today with Just about anything you do and want with everything and every temptation at the touch of a button etc, unlike 1000s abd 1000s of years ago, when God having given the people Jesus as his living sacrifice to the world for a better life and forgiveness from thier sins through thd death of Jesus on the Cross, yet even today there are still many around the world that still don't believe that truth and that's why I feel the world Is still In a mess and some are still sinning and sinning left right and centre In probably the most materialistic world that anyone has ever lived In and in a I want now attitude. Its not enough Just to take that all for granted what Jesus sacrificed Jesus went through that ment we would just be forgiven from every son by Just believing In him however many times we sin and been taken for granted today. God has to have a chalk line on forgiveness otherwise anyone at the last moment of thier life can Just ask for forgiveness and they'd get It regardless, if that's the case why Is there a He'll anyway then If was that easy. That's why some people Including Christians take that for granted as I said and as far as Joyce Meyer saying that Jesus went to Hell to suffer as well unless Jesus had personally told his disciples that on his return how would any of them back then have known otherwise, maybe he did or didn't but If he had and he not told them maybe It was because God and Jesus might have thought at that time that what Jesus had done was enough on earth for the people to understand about sin and forgiveness and salivation anx that he was, truly the son of God without having to say or do anything else. At that time that should have been enough for the people back then for that time and for all time really but for more than 2000 years later some people still doute Jesus that's why I feel you are wrong about Joyce Meyer she has helped me no end time and time again as she has helped so many others too and whenever I am almost completely lost at times It's Joyce Meyer that brings me back as well as God's word In the bible. She Is a great and positive preacher, yes a little hard at times and perhaps controversial but she Is an extremely good women who knows how to get Jesus through to people In this modern world where perhaps some people might even give up thier faith because so tough at times, but not me some might think at times but they do anx some never return to God. When It was all written down In the bible back then that might have been easier bug It doesn't relate to them In the same way now, the temptations we face now are tougher In and around the way we live today. Maybe the finger should be pointed at the charlatans that Just preach fire and brimstone that from the bible that can Just scare the life out of some people should be critisized mire than are, where their compassion anx humility, that's not good or forgiving and loving God. Joyce Meyer In my mind Just trys hard to bring her personal beliefs and personal experiences to the table as well, to toughen people up rather than have them Just exspect candy floss all the time at every corner of thier lives without trying to change themselves inward anx outwardly as well asking God for everything. She's a great and positive preacher for a modern world in my opinion, In a world that needs that more than ever, listening to just what was said 1000s and 1000s of years ago and even before that Is not enough for some people today. After all It says " take the rock from your own eyes before taking the stone out other peoples" and don't Judge others that you be not Judge yourself or words to that affect. There are preachers other than Joyce Meyer that are doing more harm than good out ther than her In my opinion, for me she speaks for God and he speaks through her. My faith is strong because of her and It hasdnt always been that way. I Love you Joyce Meyer and God always will too. Check her out for yourself and don't just take l what's said about Joyce Meyer from this You Tube video she may even bring you closer to God than you ever thought you could be. 🙏 xxx
Truth is we are supposed to follow Jesus. Joyce Meyer's has lead many souls towards Christ. She is an amazing leader. If people want to fault find they will find. God knows her heart and only He can judge. It's not for us to pick her faults apart. If anything, hurting the body of Christ by creating division. We should pray for Joyce as God loves her very much. As brothers and sisters in Christ she probably has been given correction from other believers. We are supposed to use the word of God to correct and edify the body of Christ. I hold Joyce up in prayer. Her intentions are not to harm people but to help people. We all need correction at times because the Bible can be so confusing at times and we all start off as baby Christians and we grow from there. Listen to Joyce's recent teachings and books. "Battlefield of the mind" is my favorite. We are all sinners saved through grace. EPHESIANS 2 : 8-9
@jazzswingstephendawson7236 faith comes by hearing as long as you are studying the word 4 yourself and putting that way way above any ministry you will be fine if the Internet goes down😊
I had a friend recommended your channel and this popped up first! 1. I love and respect how you talk about Her with love and compassion! 2. Any scripture you use is in context 3. You give facts and not opinions! God bless you sir!
Yes, I have to agree. You did it in such a loving and respectful way unlike others I have been told to listen to regarding false teachers. The love of Christ shines through you!!
Dada Sesshomaru, that is soo very true!....When a person of this world tries to preach the word of God, then he/ she ends up preaching a man centered message instead of a God centered message, in which this world truely needs God!!!
Study the scriptures to show yourself approved,the Holy Spirit is the BEST teacher Pray for the Spirit to give you what you need to know each day.I spent five years in the bible 3-5 hrs a day,GOD allowed me to be able to Judge false teaching by KNOWING His words.Do not listen to televangelists,learn from the Paraclete.
She is a motivational speaker , I’ve listened to her & she has motivated me tremendously on some of my darkest days , I truly believe that’s her gift ! I have noticed , that she’s does ramble a lot ,and I don’t think she thinks about a lot of what she says before she says it (which is an issue) Thank you for shedding light on this issue my brother ❤️
Please keep in mind that these quotes are nearly 30 years old. I believe she is a wiser and more discerning woman today. But we all have to prove ALL teachings against the Word of God. The verses he chose backed up what he said, but there are also some verses that back up some of the things she preached - interpretation. i.e. we are no longer ‘sinners’, as believers, if you believe that we are “a new creation, the old has gone and the new has come.” True, we still sin, but we are righteous in Jesus.
ROFL that is the best comment I have ever read! This made my day. I can totally see that too. Paul had no problem with speaking his mind. You, my brother, are so silly. I can't wait to high five you at the Wedding Supper of the Lamb in Heaven one day soon. God bless you.
Saints, we don't have to agree with Joyce, but let's agree with bible. When apostoles write their letters they referred them to Saints not to sinners. In Romans 5:8 bible says that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. We WERE... . Bible says because we believed righteousness of Christ is imputed to us, scriptures about us being made righteous are multiple. We are righteous not with our righteousness but the righteousness of Christ. Yes we still stumble and sin, and get up, because we do not love the sin as we did while we were sinners, we are NEW CREATION now, sin is not something normal for us anymore. If Sinners doing righteous dids they not become righteous people, when righteous fall ,it doesn't make him a sinner. Bible in 1 Peter 2:9 call us a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people..... . Saints, search the scriptures, see that after we were born again we are not called sinners. It is quite liberating to understand what Jesus done on the cross. Many blessings to all my brothers and sisters!❤
I learned from this video. I do think she is for real and I learn and get inspired from her testimony. I think we need to learn from the Bible and never take anything for granted. Thank you for this enlightment.
Because a lot of pastors use sympathy preaching instead of what's true. Make ppl feel comfortable n safe like there's always a way out. They add promises or make up promises n that could never be from God
The Bible teaches us that we need to be very careful, that there will be false testimony and false teachers! Thank you for these video ❤️ greetings from Belgium 🇧🇪
It's good to get a real Holy Bible book (paper-bound) to keep and to read. Online Bibles on the internet are good but these can be censured and removed from you by the flick of a switch.
I'm experiencing Mat.24 firsthand.I see how the Devil works through the treacherous Authorities, Kings, and rulers of darkness to deceive many into worshipping an accusing god.(+2Pet.2:1-3; 1John2:18, 2Thes.2:9, 1Tim.4:1-).
It would be nice to have a “then” and “now” study so that people can compare previous teachings with the most updated ones (e.g., clips from 2020). That’s my perspective as a Christian pastor and as a former TV news reporter. People’s hearts and minds change throughout time. If that’s the case, showing two sides of the coin would be a great suggestion to follow. Still, thank you for honoring the Word of God. As teachers, much is expected from us. Our actions as Christians will be judged at the Bema.
100% Agreed. I'm not sure how so many people in these comments can be so hateful. It's hurtful to see the division among Believers. In these times, we HAVE to be responsible with the information we share.
Very right Philip! Judging a teacher of the word upon individual sermons chosen with the intention to see what's wrong in his/her is n either fair nor, I think, a biblically correct approach on denouncing false teaching. I ought to take into consideration the whole works of the person as you suggested Philip Erpelo. Joyce Meyer is not the best teacher I know but I can testify she has a deep fellowship with the Spirit of Christ Jesus who also dwells in me.
Where is this teaching from? I sent it to someone and they’re denying it’s her. I think it sounds like her but you’ve altered the audio for copyright purposes. Could you please give us the source?
All of the audio clips are 20 + years old. Her book that was quoted in this video was written 20 some years ago as well. 20 years ago when she was not a mature Christian and before she knew a lot about scriptures. She admitted in a more recent service that when she started out preaching she acted like a "baby Christian" and did a lot of things that she now realized were wrong. She now teaches straight from the word of God and is just WONDERFUL!!! We all have to learn and grow in GOD's word. It takes time for sure.
She isn't going by scripture if she is still a pastor because that office is for a man.. she wasn't for God then and she isn't now.. An immature christan doesn't go out and preach a sacred word that know little about.. that's not holy just knowing the damage than can be done
I agree. I love her and have been listening to her for years. Ive never heard her say things like that now. Im a mess, but Im getting better because of her teachings.
Justin Durham, I’m sorry you feel this way but you have to understand the true context of what your reading in revelation also the message of who it’s going to. With as much love I can give brother I recommend re-reading starting at verse 18, or try another translation. Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV - For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not of your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
In my first year of being a baby Christ follower. I watched her all the time. Then, I watched a UA-cam video about false teachers. I automatically stopped watching her and a few others, PRAISE GOD, for guiding me away from them.
I have such a hard time with you Mr. Parr the way you are always discussing how wrong all the other brothers and sisters in Christ are.i think that is dangerous. Leave that to God to deal with.
I am so thankful I was taught early, as a child, to read the Word for myself! If you don't have chapter and verse I will not sit up under you! I take my own Bible to every service and take notes. If it doesn't "add up " to what the Word of God says.... not coming back!
I really appreciate your content and I think it's necessary especially in this day and age where there are false preachers left right and centre. However I will say as someone who used to listen to Joyce Meyer as a early Christian and stopped for years, then resuming she has definitely grown. The views and style of teaching have definitely changed as she has grown with Christ. Her recent teachings in the last few years have absolutely changed in tone and she is using scripture throughout, she even dedicates sermons to learning chapters of the Bible. I believe God has and is continuing to work on her and I do think that she may already realise the error in her earlier preaching hence her rectification and honesty through all her sermons about her early days in ministry. I am not saying this because I am a fan of hers but I am also a Christian who, when starting out had questionable beliefs that did not align with the Word but I knew I loved Jesus. With time and continued surrendering to God, He has continued to reveal what needs changing and so just like us all, I am a work in progress. Ultimately as you concluded, you are able to discern because of your knowledge of the scripture and your own personal relationship with God. I believe it is imperative as followers and believers of Christ to know the word of God for ourselves and have our own relationship with him.
Amanda B this is very true but in James 3:1 (aptly about taming the tongue) it says teachers will be judged more strictly for what they say and do. Has she ever actually come out and admitted her error and apologised or did she just gradually change her teaching hoping no one would notice? Genuine question! It takes a lot of humility to be a leader in the church, sadly I don’t often see that with these teachers.
We all need to have our own Daily time with Jusus, in the word, the Holy Spirit will reveal the message God has for you. It is the only way to have an open personal relationship with our LORD.
if you're questioning that you should be listening to somebody (joyce meyer) then that's probably the holy spirit working in you not to listen to them.👍🏼
These video extracts are so old and raw that I'm convinced one will have to dig a little too deep to find them. One will have to be motivated by the need, the desperate need, to find something negative to say about this woman. The Joyce Meyer I have listened to over the past few months is nothing like this. She preaches hope, love, faith, keeping the strife away, casting your cares on Jesus, forgiving and even praying for people who have wronged you, and moving on from our mistakes as God does not want us to dwell in them. That woman opens her mouth and she gives upliftment to the broken, hope to those who need it and frankly if we all consumed her teachings, there will be a lot more peace and compassion in the world. That's the Joyce Meyer she has become. I have never heard her preach about prosperity or wealth and I'm guessing she must have outgrown such teachings at some point. Yeah, OUTGROWN, because we're all growing, and women and men of God are not left out of the fact. Of course, we do have to draw the line at some point on how much heresy should be permitted and dismissed as merely growing, but this is a woman who has actually owned up to her mistakes and now teaches from a heart of love, maturity and divinity, and even makes examples of her own past errors. She is a blessing and nothing less.
Hey Beat, you were spot on when I viewed your comments on Joyce Meyer! I have felt the same way about her for several years now. Some things she says are correct, but at the same time she is throwing her version of what scripture means that is NOT biblicly correct. Thank you for your feelings on what she is REALLY about. Because when a person becomes a child of GOD, one of HIS many gifts is the spirit of dicernment. THANK YOU!
I think what we are hearing here is Joyce Meyer adding information to scriptures in a possible state of immaturity. She herself has said that she did not receive proper schooled biblical teaching. In the early years of her ministry I think she did say some things that were incorrect. I listen to her from time to time and have listened to her for the past few years. I definitely here a difference in what she says now vs her earlier days. I think that this was a result of her not receiving proper biblical teaching early in her ministry. Nevertheless, I will continue to be mindful of who I listen to, as I am with all ministry leaders.
Timothy S very understandable. We all are growing in our knowledge of God and His word. However what I would expect is for her to correct her theology publicly and repent from some of those false teachings.
Pemi Akin Ojelabi can you show me via a post or something somewhere where she has specifically repented of these specific false teachings concerning Jesus?
@@thebeatagp Perhaps... she should BUT if she is no longer selling for profit the books and tapes with incorrect doctrine than perhaps not. She does publically confess this. If my Bishop (who was Pentecostal and now non- denominational) combed through every moment he communicated his immature understanding of the Bible and apologized, I'm not sure it would even be any more effective than addressing the errors as they present themselves when he preaches as JM seems to be doing.
@@thebeatagp True, I can agree with that. I have not been consistently listening so I have no facts on if she has ever repented of these things. Then again I wonder if I would publicly apologize or if it would be a private things. I guess, I can only hope that she has done that rather it be in public or private. Thanks for the post though, it was very informative.
If she is teaching about Christ, gets it wrong and doesn’t publicly explain her error...then her false teaching is still floating around deceiving people. I’m very thankful that he is bold enough to point out the heresy.
@@char9646yeah I unsubscribed years ago. It's interesting that he never responds to the comments about how old the clips were, doesn't let us know which year, but he likes those comments which support his view. So he reads the comments, but refuses to give the basic fact about the year of the clips, or clarify if the voice is really Joyce, which many ppl have asked about.
Allen I appreciate your ministry and your platform here on UA-cam. I do not believe that your heart is to maliciously malign or take down others with whom you may have theological, or even fundamental differences just for likes and shares However, I do think it's a bit unfair to cite so many dated examples from nearly three decades ago to build a current case of heresy against someone. I'm sure there are many preachers and teachers of God's Word that may no longer subscribe to certain interpretations or belief patterns that they once did. The wonderful gift we all have to mature and grow in Christ presupposes that we will take His yoke upon us and "learn of Him." So yeah, brother, keep doing what you're doing in the Kingdom as God gives you the grace and opportunity to do so. I just don't think it's wise to levy such a serious charge of heresy against someone with information primarily extracted from books and sermons published so long ago. They may no longer believe or teach such things.
Derick Crooms thanks so much for the kind response. It is refreshing to read a carefully and well thought out reply that is respectful. Here’s the reason why I made this video. Even though many of the video clips and audio clips were old, she still promotes and teaches much of this today with particular emphasis on the prosperity theology gospel. So because of this, many people are still being led astray because she has not repented of this false teaching. Until that happens, we have a responsibility to protect the flock from any false teaching that we see that is permeating our Christian culture.
@@thebeatagp according to this statement you just made... 1. Why would she repent of something she is still teaching today? 2. What is she still teaching today that you exposed in this video from the early 90's?
Derick Crooms.....Your response is a fundamental nefarious flaw with so-called Christians!! Please understand this simple, practical, & too easy understanding....YAHSHUA IS A JEW!!!! Yahshua is not aligned with a denomination!!! Actually, HE is furious with denominational practices!! Titus 3:10-11; Matthew 18:15-20; 2nd Thessalonians 3:6; Psalms 1:1-6........etc......STUDY YOUR BIBLE IN CONTEXT!!!! YAHWEH will reveal HIS NATURE to us. Stop listening to man/woman; please allow the Ruach Ha Kodesh(Holy Spirit) to guide you and to lead you in all understanding of Truth(Scripture). Matthew 7:21-24----Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and do many miracles in your name? Then I will announce to them, I never knew you. Depart from me, you lawbreakers!!! One truth....not multiple truths(denominations). In order to remove the veil of ignorance, you have to remember this.....paganism & gnosticism was severely rampant during the days of the first church, that Scripture reveals to us in The Book of Acts. Roman and Greek influence was ubiquitously immense. Just as different interpretations are just as rampant today! Read Revelations 22. It talks about cowards and those who continue to live in sin. Matter of factly, study Revelations chapters 2 through 4, with reference to those 7 churches. Either you follow Yahshua or, as a coward, you follow satan.........Shalom
Thanks @The Beat for this piece I love your concluding statement"Stay clear from Joyce Meyer until you are able to discern the truth from heresy" That is exactly what I am going to do as I am just starting out with the Word of God!
This is a question I’ve struggled with recently. I’ve watched and listened to Joyce for years and I truly love her and pray for her, but I’ve been hearing people calling her a false teacher. It’s funny because she’s actually one of the preachers who encouraged me to read God’s word for myself. She’d always say, “it’s nice that you listen to me, but that’s not enough. You need to go to God’s word for yourself.” I’m paraphrasing. Anyway everything I’ve heard her say that was wrong, it’s generally from the 80s or 90s. It’s possible she’s changed her view since then. Of course, it would be much better if she made a public statement denying anything theologically unsound. The whole charismatic stuff isn’t such a big element of her ministry now.
K I agree with you (those recordings are old) and I know she’s changed her views on some of her older messages. I’ve been to her conference only a couple years ago and I heard nothing that raised a red flag. She was adamant that we seek out truth from our own personal studies of the Bible. I believe her contributions to learning how our mind and thoughts can be our worst enemy and a tool for Satan to conquer us has been invaluable to overcoming Satans Control here on earth. I will say this. I listen to many different evangelical Christians as well as Allen Parr. I enjoy learning from them. But I read and study from the Bible for myself.
Wow mine either ,it was something off about her so I stepped off from listening to her ever again then I saw her and others listed on the false preachers list
@@debralol8447 @ This was what made me question her teachings too as saw her on lists. At first I didn't want to believe it but then realised along with K Copeland, Bethel church, Joel Osteen it was mostly a feel good prosperity live best life now gospel message 😢🙏🌏🙏
Good thing is the Holy Spirit does that, he will show you that something is off with this ppl. I stopped listening to; Elevation, Steven Furtick, pastor Todd from transformation church and many others. The Holy Spirit shows it to us.
Do you not think that the women God healed did not go about teaching what Jesus did for them??? Why did God use Ester so Boldly? Why are husband's letting their wives work so hard at home and in the workplace along with taking care of children???
I recently found The Beat and it really has been a prayer answered. As a relatively new Christian it can seem as though more seasoned Christians just want to get their hands on you and pour in to you their beliefs. Reading and understanding the Bible is a loong lifetime journey, so having this channel has helped greatly and directed me to specific areas in the Word to better understand exactly what God intended it to be understand as.
Do we know if Joyce evolved from any of these false teachings? These are very old audio clips. Do we assume she hasn’t had a change of thought in these areas? I’ve personally heard her teachings contrary to what’s reported here…which is why I’m asking. I love your videos and proudly subscribed. I love your insight and exposition of God’s word.
the more I read for myself the more I see things she says that don't add up. Same thing for everyone in that circle. When I listen to someone who is supposedly a great biblical teacher, yet they continue making what should be obvious mistakes for them like this, things they should catch on to pretty easily, then I need to back away. You never know what else is going to be misleading and unbiblical and flat out wrong.
💕Must develop a personal relationship with Christ our LORD and Savior. Learn the word and teach others to be able to distinguish truth from error. Jude 1:3
I discovered Joyce Meyer a few years ago. I bought a few of her books & subscribed to her channel. I suppose God allowed this bcuz I was in a deep dark funk & needed to hear some positive messages (such as it's never good to complain, we should never let our feelings or emotions dictate whether we're saved or not). And I needed to hear those things. But for over a year now, I hadn't looked at any more of her videos. This seems to coincide with my renewed effort to get to know God & start a real, bona-fide relationship with Him. So thank you for confirming my suspicion. I'll unsubscribe from her channel shortly. But at the same time, let's pray that God truly convicts her of the real truth!
@@sherylhuckell9631 How cruel to attack Pele that warn of a wolf in sheep's clothing and using Our Lord and Savior to rob His Children! She is not only tap dancing her way to hell she's leading God's children with her because they are desperate and scared so she attacks. Typical of wolves! May she get her the "reward" she's earned ASAP Because she won't change, money owns her body and soul. That's sad. But justice will be done truly in Jesus' name.
Allen, thank you so much for this video. I've been praying for a friend who listens to joyce every morning on her way to work. Doesn't want to believe that jm is a false teacher. You have said it all. I believe with all my heart that our Lord directed me to your message. Thank you xxxxx and God bless
As for Joel Osteen, I’ve always thought he was a motivational speaker at worst and a therapist at best. He is obviously doing a good thing making people hopeful but he is absolutely not a Preacher or Teacher of The Gospel.
Well said. Not, a preacher of the full Biblical truth. Good Intentions, but following Jesus, is NOT "popular" or qell "liked" in the world. That right there, says a LOT, about Joel.
You did a pretty good video about Joel Osteen too. It really just comes down to the listener. What you’re capable of deciphering as true and what you can decipher as false.
If I know someone is preaching erroneously but throw in some truth, I would have NO desire to listen to them. I don't care if I can discern what is true and what is false, why even bother with them? I'd rather hear the truth from someone who is preaching ALL TRUTH!!
Carole Brelo I agree with that completely. My statement was for those who choose to listen to them. If you choose to listen then make sure you know the difference.
I RECENTLY FOUND YOU ON THE INTERNET. I STOPPED WATCHING THESE T.V. PREACHERS/TEACHERS LONG TIME AGO AND ONLY WATCH SOME OF GOD'S END-TIME "WATCHMEN". NEVER FELT SO FREE IN JESUS CHRIST. SO GLAD I JUST FOUND YOU AND LOVE THE WAY YOU TEACH THE SIMPLICITY OF THE GOSPEL AND ARE EXPOSING THESE FALSE PEOPLE. THANK YOU AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY! WHAT REALLY SET MY DAUGHTER AND I FREE WAS WHEN WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.......PLUS NOTHING ELSE! THANK YOU! FROM KALISPELLL, MT. 4/16/22
I listened to Joyce during the years 2003-2010 and during that time her preaching just made perfect sense to me . It actually saved my marriage and started a growth process in me that was life changing . I wouldn’t be where I am today had I not heard some of her preaching so when I came across this title by accident I thought what ? No way ! Lol. I noticed the clips you’re referring to are from almost a decade before I started listening to her . She herself has said in one of her sermons that I was listening to that she didn’t always get things right when it came to her walk with God . None of us are perfect and we do get things wrong sometimes. There is this thing called spiritual maturity and I wonder if that’s all it was with her . She just wasn’t as spiritually mature or as knowledgeable then as she may have become in recent years . I Know I could still be wrong but even I have changed in major ways spiritually and otherwise since 1993 . It doesn’t mean we’re bad people who might not have good points to offer as we mature and grow in Gods word. Do you have anything more recent? I don’t like the idea of scrutinizing people so much yet I do understand the value of careful discernment. I don’t think she did anything that she didn’t feel in her heart was right by God so I don’t feel it’s fair to paint her in a bad light . It’s like another commenter said on here . Is it possible we should extend some grace to her and see how she is today in 2020 ? Also in the last example you pointed out , if the reward she was speaking of was not monetary but within her heart and emotional health then yes , I think anyone can benefit and deserves to benefit from that . I wonder if the Word reward was Interpreted wrong ? Anyways, I do appreciate your videos as well lol. Those are just things I was wondering about as I watched this one . Thank you for your time 💜🙏🏼
tina halle has she forsure backtracked these specific teachings? If she just said generically “I’ve made mistakes in my theology in the past” or something like that... I think that’s concerning. I’m genuinely curious you sound like you know her teachings well, I don’t. I also believe in spiritual maturity and I understand you grow in knowledge on your faith journey but she should never have been in the position to teach if she was this theological uneducated. Because these clips are out there and she can never take them back. It’s a warning to people that want to be teachers to make sure you are biblically sound. I hope she has changed, pray she has changed, I don’t know her heart.
Hi Tina, first of all I’m pleased your marriage was saved. When those steps on stage to proclaim the word of God we all must understand that they are held in a higher accountability for people come to hear, understand, learn and trust what is being spoken about Christ. The Bible clearly speaks about this matter and it’s everyone responsibility who’s born again to point this out. Regardless of when those times were she clearly should’ve not spoken such foolishness. There’s times when tough love has to be administer. I too have gotten a uneasy feeling in my spirit listening to her reasoning of things concerning God. I’m not saying that you don’t but I leave you with this, dive in head first with the scriptures. Choose to put the word of God first in your life above basically anything. The Word surely will guide you in every step of your day and will alert you in your spirit what’s wrong as well as right. I too do not have anything personally against Ms. Myers but I do stand with with Mr Parr against everyone that chooses to stand in the position of a shepherd and lead vulnerable souls astray. As a fellow born again believer I wish you well...
Mr Allen Parr. I feel very very sorry for you during this terrible time that the world is going through..you have the audacity to run down a woman who has been chosen by God to preach the message. She's up there with Billy Graham... she's passionate about our Lord and saviour..she herself has gone through hell in this world from all the sexual abuse she endured as a child...she decided to forgive her tormenter...she helps to counsel women who have also undergone the same torment. She helps women who are trafficked for sex....she gives thousands of pounds to charity....... she has helped me personally to get over the death of my spouse.HOW DARE YOU. You are a hypocrite..yes she DOES get revelation from God.....but you wouldn't understand that because you are being used by Satan himself by broadcasting this muck. May God forgive you because you know not what you are saying.Give it a break....there are many many people dying at this moment....we need the Lord more than ever.... SHE gives us encouragement and hope which is more than you do. You are definitely NOT a Christian.... you're like the Sadducees and the pharasies.May God help you on judgement day for spreading such false news She will be waving at you whilst you are being condemned....😥
@@cherylcaardillo1702 Just a thought to give you.. Not looking for a heavy discussion but there are for example many false religions such as Mormonism, Jehovah Witness and so on, that have no ill intent but are clearly wrong on and have twisted greatly God's Word!
@@12tribes61 I believe Joyce loves God. She spends hours before her day begins..reading God's word and praying. How many of us can say the same? It's not our job to judge where she's going to spend eternity!
I noticed that all of the clips you used were from years ago, and she’s admitted on more than one occasion that she’s made a bunch of mistakes in ministry during her younger years. Do you believe that she has changed? I’d be curious to see you do a video evaluating her newer teachings (i.e. past five years) and measuring them up with scripture. Always love your content!
that's how I feel, as I've only been familiar with her current and recent stuff until I watched this. It seems she has been corrected over the years and has developed, as do we all. It's such a shame she didn't have others around her to run her sermons by ahead of time to correct any errors in her understanding before they were shared publically.
Have you seen yourself any of her new videos? I have and when she pauses for applause and don’t get as much as she wants and criticizes the right side of the audience because the left side yell and clapped their hands louder than the other side that is shameful to the audience. Does she wants the glory for herself? It’s what she showed there. If she made so many mistakes throughout the years when she started it should tell that she wasn’t called and prepared for ministry. She was preaching out of her emotions and fantasies. When I preach or teach I backup my words with the Scriptures, not the other way around. Also God does not call unprepared and ignorant people to the ministry. Beware of those who rushed into ministry. It takes many years, patience and a lot of humility to start a ministry after being called. After all the Lord Jesus started his ministry at the peak of human maturity. Is different for everybody but there’s a time for getting prepared and to mature. In conclusion, she wasn’t called or prepared because the videos and her own writings testify against her. She have honed her speaking skills and throw in a few biblical truths in between but is still a hollow message.
Listen to testimonials from people who have left her ministry. Her apologies are very shallow and it's not great to learn from someone who did not always have sound theological sermons when there are so many teachers. If you're looking for a woman minister, I recommend Sarah Jake Robert. I got a funny feeling while listening to one of Joyce's new semons and prayed on it and found testimonials from those who worked for her that solidified I should not listen or learn from her.
Hey BEAT family, you know that if I ever call out someone by name, then it's pretty serious. I have a responsibility to warn the flock of false teachers. The Bible says quite a bit about that in the New Testament. Today I want to present to you several statements Joyce Meyer has made over the years and I want to encourage you to evaluate these in light of what the Bible says and then share your thoughts below. I hope you find this video informative and helpful as you assess and evaluate who you do and do not listen to. Blessings,
I thought women shouldn't be pastors
THE BEAT by Allen Parr Thank you, Mr. Parr! 🤗
I heard bad things about joyce I know people learning the Christian faith listening to joyce and osteen I told them to stop listening to them both
Most of her teachings are not literally what she mean , she is just using it as a way of making baby Christian understand more about Christ
@darrell penn if you play violent games yes if you play clean games like educational games it'd be different but anything that takes the place of spending time with the lord is sinful
My advice to us ALL ~ Pray for understanding ~ Read your Bible ~ Ask the Holy Spirit for discernment.
Great advice!
Joyce Hutson Amen Sister!
Best advice!
@Sam Fondren No, but you can draw more people to learn and study the word with honey rather than beating them over the head with a Bible! Both ways are needed though! :) God bless!
@Sam Fondren Honestly, I didnt read most of your post. I have no idea why your trying to argue with me, but what you're doing doesn't draw people to Christ, showing love does. We start off as babes in Christ and grow to mature in him. People need to know the whole Bible not just a part of it. What's to argue about?? That's the truth. Stop being augmentative, stop fighting your own brothers and sisters in Christ and put that energy into saving lost souls. God bless :)
This is why you must know the Word for yourself. Lord help us Jesus!
So true!
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You can't know the scripture unless you read kjv only. The problem with using other translations is it brings confusion
Exactly
That is why we have a Bible
we need to learn the word of God ourselves
sheryl viola astrella 💗💗💗 yes we do
The Holy Spirit will teach you as you read his Word.
Amen.
sherylviolaastrella amén
Amen!! Knowing the bible for ourselves is the key
Have you heard her lately? She has been more than willing to admit that she has grown and received the grace of God just like us… it’s wonderful that God has more grace and love and gives us us more chances….
PEOPLE READ YOUR BIBLE WITH THE HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. ASK HIM FOR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU ARE READING.
This is the best way to hear God speak to you. THE BIBLE 📖
Sometimes people will still fall astray
Amen yes
Amen
Yes, God spoke through Jesus Christ, however today God speaks primarily through his word when we open the pages of Scripture to read and study it.
Don’t be swept up in this age of biblical illiteracy. As Charles Spurgeon said “ Be walking Bibles” Let’s all pray for discipline to know the Word and rely on it!
Robert Awuah Amen!
My guy, this is so true! I’d love to hear your opinion on some of my videos! Love this comment!
No disrespect but you must be a calvanist?
Usually, i have noticed from studying behaviors and religion behaviors that calvanists quote teachers more than the bible. Usually they also look at titles like PhD, doctorate, MD, etc as a sign of trust, thus worshipping title over truth, even if the person has no title. The bible says in 2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires.
If you follow piper, white and durbin, please i implore you to walk away from these men teaching false heressies. White even defends Islam, do your research.
@@savedbygrace1176 Did Robert say he was a Calvinist? Wow!
You judged that man before he could answer the question. By the way, I'm not a Calvinist, but a Christian.
2 Timothy 2:15 KJV
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Saved by Grace no I am non denominational and I do believe that we should have the Bible written in our hearts, hence Charles Spugeon believing that we should be walking Bibles. I only trust the authority of Jesus and the and the and the Bible. I do not condone most of the false teaching prevalent today.
You cannot teach a person how to speak in tongues it only come by the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:2-4
True but is that what she was doing?
No I do not believe that
Evanglist Michelle do you think that the purpose of speaking in tongues was to be able to spread the Gospel to places where they spoke other languages? Reflecting back to the day of Pentecost in the upper room?
First of all you are soooo wrong speaking in tongues is gibberish that no one can interpret. Tongues are Languages. Most people who speak in tongues and you ask them to interpret they cannot.
This isn't entirely true the way the guy is putting it is misleading I think personally .....and i was prayed over to receive tongues many years ago I did receive the gift which i use in my own personal prayer time with god in my private place of prayer and i did notice he didn't expand on it or give details as to how she was doing it .. at least give us detailed analysis if you are going to try and rip into someone !! Just saying
Thank you, Allen, for speaking the Truth of God's Word! People are being led astray by false teachers and heresy and the Church is being too silent. Yes, we must lovingly, yet firmly, contend for the Faith - it's our responsibility.
She does not offer a lifestyle that appeals to me. I want the life with Jesus Christ that the Bible describes.
I've never met, heard or seen a perfect Christian yet! All of us have been deceived or mistaken at some point. It is our responsibility to read and know the bible, and to pray for discernment.
Who is asking for a "perfect Christian"? Name one person. Pointing out someone's abuse of Scripture is not asking for sinless perfectionism. And while many can be deceived, please note that Meyer has claimed to receive messages from God, some of which she now appears to have renounced. So was she lying when she claimed to have God's inspiration earlier, or was she deceived? If the latter, why does she still teach?
Me either. I feel like I failed every day... actually I constantly mess up and I have to remind myself that I am loved.
Our spirits are made perfect
Please check scripture properly, the WORD tells us to expose these clowns.
@Ringo Dallas Your comment is disgusting, selfridges, pathetic and miserable.
Test the spirit! Know the Word of God for yourselves! Test everything! Don’t follow people, follow Him!
@Mendel Enyan She’s a female preacher. That’s ALL you need to know.
I agree
PERIOD!!!
@Mendel Enyan That verse was referring to salvation not to roles in a church
@Mendel Enyan that’s what this video is literally all about.
This was very informative thank You! That's why we have to read the Bible for ourselves. Knowledge is power!
Not just read it, but read it according to itself. People read the Bible according to things they heard or take pieces of it that they like and read the rest of it based off that.
I absolutely agree we need to read our bibles for ourselves. So important as this is how we really get to know God’s character, how much He loves us, in so so many scriptures.
They just want your money they are liars and they are not real teachers of God
you should read ABOUT the Bilble...that is real knowledge! the history behind, how it was modified and shaped and the horrible messages that it contains
I started as a young Christian listening to J.M.
I went and saw her in person at one of her conferences but sadly walked away never to go back at all ..She told everyone who wanted to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, speak in tongues, to stand up and she said a prayer ..Hundreds if not thousands stood up and it was chaos ...I knew that we were supposed to have an interpreter with only one speaking at a time ...I was hurt and disappointed..We cannot be misled because there's already so much confusion on that subject . Praying in tongues is a beautiful gift and not to be misused or misled..
Well there’s two different types of speaking in tounges. I don’t have much knowledge of speaking in tounges but I’m pretty sure that one instance dose not need an interpreter and that’s your personal tounges. There is another instance where you speak in tounges to edify the church in a profetic way and that’s what needs an interpreter
"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. [28] But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God." - 1 Corinthians 14:27-28@@anthonygabriel9960
@@anthonygabriel9960 thats not biblical
I saw her about 15 years ago, and she looked me in the eye and said, 'speak in tongues'. I'll never forget that look she gave me when I said nothing....after that, I never listened to her again.
You are absolutely right, and nowhere in the bible did any human being teach another human being to speak in tongues. It is a gift that comes only from God. It can not be taught by a human being. I totally agree with you. God bless you. 🙏
To anyone who is going through anything God's got you 🙏
I needed to hear this , thank you💕
Thankyou ❤️
Yaaaaaasssssss amen I receive this..God bless you!
As He does you.
Amen sister.
JESUS CHRIST NEVER STOP BEING GOD. He was never sinful
Jesus is NOT God. He is the SON of God. How can people actually get that wrong. I'll NEVER understand that.
Leona Banks the Holy trinity, three in one, brother.
He is God himself but the son (not the father) HE IS TOO GOD and he NEVER sinned! The holy spirit is also God! Three people of trinity (GodHead)
@@leonabanks5591 Jesus is God phillippians chapter 2 vs 6 Being in the FORM of God. Also check out Titus chapter 2 vs 14 and 15. Last but not least Acts chapter 7 vs 59 When Stephen ask God to receive his spirit what name did he use? I'll give you a hint his initials are J.C.
@@chad9487 1 john chapter 5 vs 7 there are 3 that bear record in heaven The Father the word and the holy ghost and these 3 are ONE. John chapter 10 vs 30 Jesus states I and my father are ONE.
I stopped watching all televangelists.
Tirani Applewhite same here
Every! Last! One! of them!
Me too... I attended their conferences... Morris Cerrulo, Benny Hinn.. Thought to myself much hype nothing to gain.. For some reason they liked 🇰🇪 Kenya.. By the time TDJakes came, I was tired already.. Then for some reasons I stopped listening to all of them..
Joseph Prince is pretty good!
(I don't think that he is a false teacher -- please feel free to prove me wrong)
This was so incredibly informative! Thank you for putting this together! What’s sad is Christ knew there would be so many false teachers.. and its just so exhausting all the time to have to dissect a sermon.. and as you said, most of us growing in our faith and sort of at the beginning of our faith journey don’t always know enough of the scriptures to back it up. But people like Joyce need to be held accountable for their heresy.
The first time I listened to a Joyce Meyer broadcast, the holy Spirit impressed upon my mind that the way in which she was talking and what she was saying was not from God. I happened to stumble across her programs a few more times over the years and during each of those times the Spirit of God quickly reminded me of the contrast between her words and Scripture. Thank you Lord for guiding me. And thank you, brother Allen for your excellent presentation of the facts.
Thank u brother
Ok, When Jesus was walking the earth demons trembled but when he died He got jumped by demons!?! I think not my friend.
I laughed at that...didn't even make sense...
Pat Eunuchity AMEN 🙏!!!!!!!!!!!
I just laughed...so true. Lol
😂😂
Certainly not she could've at least say jesus jumped death.
The demons are afraid of christ they tremble at his presence .
Dave Olep That’s exactly what I was thinking... Jesus would’ve knocked them demons out... he can just BLOW on em and they done
When they see Him coming they flee
@@tenacious-e3o PREACH.My dad used to just look at us and we would sit down...Jesus just stare and those demons will run like scattered roaches when the lights turn on..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂SERIOUSLY
@@mhmm5379 James 2:19
I watch Joyce, and can appreciate the work GOD has done in her Life. I always watch you as well. Thank you for Bible Encouragement and Truth. Been a fan since 2014. My question/concern is you reached back to 1993 (if I heard you correctly)... Could she not have the benefit of growing in her faith and convictions since then. Mind you, every point you made was spot on... But I would like to think " she doesn't project that hearsay today, because God is ever molding and shaping us. The spirit of discernment is key of course to a lot of what we hear on these airways today. I pray you continued strength and wisdom.
The most dangerous lies are usually wrapped up in truth.
@A Man Is Dust Indeed. The Watchtower are masters of that skill.
So is this C19 sarcov2 MSM fear mongering .
Special this Allan Parr
Yes, absolutely right! Evil will not manifest itself as anything that but the opposite so to beguile.
The alternative truth.
Praise the Lord there's someone that'll actually stand up for the truth may God bless you
It’s our duty as Christians to know the Bible for ourselves. To many people hang on to every word a Pastor, teacher, evangelists, or even worship leaders that what they speak or sing must be biblical especially if they are well known. Read and study the Bible for yourselves so you aren’t deceived.
Best lesson that I learned the HARD way. I was under what I thought was a bible based church only to find out they were condoning sin in droves!! The bible taught me that. My "pastor" was Not of God. So sad because it was a megachurch. Leading people straight to hell. Lord help!
Yes, that's what makes it cultish.
Yep...Study to show yourself approved...dude I can’t even believe everything you say even though you believe that you’re straight out of the Bible every time you say something...dude why is it your ministry to bash other ministries ...you may say I’m doing a service to the body of Christ and making sure that I expose false teachers.... I believe we grow in what we know...I’m sure 20 years from now you may look back at your videos and say wow I was teaching that?
@@sylviaa.ryndock2720 I fell for the same thing Sylvia - if Joyce Meyer has such a following, how could she be wrong, right?
I used to believe what she said as well but then - and this was not directed at Joyce herself - God challenged me to read the Bible as it was written, not understood by others and filtered by their understanding (which are doctrines of men or traditions of men (as Jesus called it))
Not so long God gave me a dream explaining to me that I am doing both - following man and God and seeing no results because of it.
I came to see how biased I was towards my favourite preachers but when challenged by what God showed me, had to learn that standing on the Word alone forced me to accept some things being said by these teachers were heresies. It was hard on me because I drank the Cool-Aid for so long.
I am not young anymore but slowly getting myself untangled from false teachings. I have also realized, until I know the Bible well enough, I cant keep on listening to teachings that might be false or some parts that are and ' eat the meat and spit out the bones' because I am not sure always what is meat and what is bones.
Slowly I am getting the hang of it because once you know the truth, it will set you free and you will be able to identify the counterfeit.
99% of poisons are normally good nutritional foods and only 1% the actual poison.
Do you know the Bible well enough to spot the 1%?
Let the Holy Spirit be your teacher, check everything else out like a good Berean and dont favour anybody.
Sylvia A. Ryndock, are you talking about Allen Parr’s teaching?
I love that "Anyone who comes for my Lord n savior, I have to come for them too" LOOOOVE IT
She said, "If you can't bless this ministry with $5, then GOD CAN"T BLESS YOU!" And with that statement, I knew my suspicions were confirmed.
Thats one of the most disgraceful things I have ever heard!! Joel Osteen & his wife r corrupted also. One day I tuned in to hear for myself, and what was coming out of both of their mouths was blasphemous. I turned that channel so fast!! I should have prayed for them, but was just so disgusted.!!
When prosperity and being a better version of yourself is preached more than salvation, Sin and Jesus's second coming you need to question is this from God or the devil.
God is not an atm machine or a genie in a bottle. We are already abundantly blessed by what Jesus alone did on the cross 🩸🐑🦁🙏🌏🙏✝️
Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior.
Galatians 1:8-9 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
Revelation 22:18-19
I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.
#antichrist #falseprophets
@@NMDecember1 God bless your heart for this beautiful Bible based testimony!!!
My older Sister reacted to this video (I shared it with her) in a manner in which I didn't expect.
She didn't react well, so that the conversation has been postponed until tomorrow.
I assumed that she understood certain things that she doesn't.
I pray that the Holy Ghost leads in the manner I communicate so she knows my efforts proceed out of godly love.
I've also chosen revelation 22:18-19 as part of my dialogue. 🙏
God's best in Christ Jesus; God the Son. ✝️
What!?
My mom falls for these obvious shills and thinks that it is your moral obligation to donate money, even if you are not in the position to. These people are fakes and taking advantage of the vulnerable, Sickening beyond belief.
I'm a Christian 63 years old and have listened to pretty much ALL of them and attended different ones for decades. So much confusion amongst SO many.... God help us.
Help us Jesus to understand your truth!!
And this is why you are confused and probably frustrated.
First of all, if your relationship with the Lord is strong and unshakable you will not be confused, GOD will not allow you or cause you to be confused. You need to STOP trying to find the right preacher, or teacher, you need to pray for wisdom, knowledge and ask the Lord to guide you. GOD takes care of those that LOVE HIM. Seek the Lord first and the rest will fall into place just like a puzzle. You have no idea what you're missing!!
@@mperez5920 So true, thank you for your important reminder.
There was nothing confusing about what he just said about Joyce Meyer. Listen to it again.
I get what you are saying. Pray and read the scriptures. Some people who are stable have faltered in what they say.
I used to listen to her and Joel Osteen, then one day my eyes were opened
Me too...eyes wide open!!!
Both are
from what sources?
Something about Joel Olsteen never sat well with me...at all 🥴🥴🤔🤔🤔
Joel Osteen twists scripture to benefit him & his wife is right by his side with a fake smile 😃
I agreed with everything you said until the very last thing: we are not supposed to listen to false teachers and glean out the good stuff. We are not supposed to have anything to do whatsoever with false teachers and we should not associate with them in any way.
I can't believe how these false teachers deceive so many. So thankful I haven't fallen prey to these. It's important to (as you have) evaluate the teacher's message and discern if it aligns with the Word of God.
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
1 John 4:1-3 (KJV)
Daniel Arthur,
" Amen. I, literally, asked a person whether or not they could confess that Jesus is come in the flesh and they replied: " No ! " That was enough for me to stop listening to their " teaching ! "
That's what happens when we don't read our Bible.
@Justin Durham For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion is not from Him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is. But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed. I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!
- Galatians 5:1-12
a "good" false teacher is always good at using truth to smuggle in lies though. there are a few messages ive heard from her that line up completely with scripture but thats when its so easy to slip in opinion or conjecture and pass it off as truth. even the devil uses scripture to try to seem like hes telling the truth
"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has FAITH [ in the righteousness of God ] but does not have WORKS [ or the righteousness of Christ in him ]?
CAN THAT FAITH SAVE HIM?"
(James 2:14)
"You believe that God is one
[ Christ and God are one ]:
you do well.
Even the demons [ who do not believe in the righteousness of Christ ] believe [ that God is one ]--- and shudder!. "
(V.19)
"Beloved, do not believe every [ manifestation of ] spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets
[, FALSE MINISTERS/ PASTORS
who teach AGAINST WORKS, ]
HAVE GONE OUT INTO THE WORLD.
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every [ manifestation of ] spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh [, or confesses the deity or righteousness of Christ, ]
IS FROM GOD,
and every [ manifestation of ] spirit that does not confess [ the deity or righteousness of ] Jesus
IS NOT FROM GOD."
(1 John 4:2-3)
"Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. "Never, Lord!", he said. "This [ suffering and death ] shall never happen to you!"
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "GET BEHIND ME, SATAN! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men." "
(Matthew 16:22,23 NIV)
This manifestation of Satan in the person of Peter was a HINDRANCE to Jesus' accomplishment of God's will and therefore also to His attaining the righteousness of His own --- the righteousness of Christ.
Likewise, every manifestation of spirit [ in the person of a teacher/ minister/ pastor ] that hinders a believer from straining forward to the goal of attaining the righteousness of Christ IS NOT FROM GOD.
I like listening to Charles Stanley.
I like him too
I do too, I love his teachings
He's adorable I love him
I am with you,I like charly Stanley to. Joseph kelley JR
David Jeremiah, oh he is soooo good. Teaches the word matter of fact and simple, yet leaving you filled with the spirit and wisdom to Word!! love him
As always, you’re contending for the faith ! I won’t stand for any so-called preacher that places their own ideas above the Bible.
David Wesley
Thank I guess you not a fan of Benny Hinn, Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyers, Todd White. Or TD JAKES
Mendel Enyan
They are preaching. Prosperity gospel. A live your best life now
Joyce Meyers said Jesus died and went to hell and THE FATHER was I. Heaven wringing his hands and the demons jumped up and down o. Jesus..... this is heresy Jesus paid for our sins ON THE CROSS and demons were not jumping up and down on his back like she says
None of the ever mention he’ll, sin or repentance. And Benny Hinn has told people they were healed and they went home and threw away their medicine or quit taking chemo and DIED he does no physical healings . All the people that are really paralyzed and in wheel chairs are kept in the back of the auditorium. Todd White does fake leg lengthening. Do you think Jesus likes that. And Joel Olsteen thinks there is more than one way to get to heaven. He thinks Mormons, Hindus all religions can get to heaven if they are good people. I could go on and on, but it’s simple. They are preaching a different Jesus..... Not the one of the Bible
Mendel Enyan
Excuse me but the fore mentioned folk are heretics plain and simple
Not going to debate this with you any longer
Have a nice evening
hahahah such confusion in Christianity, don't even know they all worship a man, as a god. The actual .. Antichrist himself.
@Mendel Enyan Cesare Borgia .... look it up
Hey! I do listen to Joyce and have for more than 13 years. I knew her more so work after the teachings that were displayed within this video. I do believe in a person's evolution and becoming more inclined to what God truly desires for us as we move through time. I think God gives a grace to learn as we go and correct our stances from stage to stage. I think the teachings from her early ministry show her passion for christ, though they may have had some mistakes, I think today she is much more evolved and a lot less to teach in such a way that is heretic. She's definitely not a wealth fanatic in my opinion and some of the material used could've been taken out of context or not just like we do with the Bible scriptures. In love and respect, thanks for sharing!
Kind of similar to what I said in comments. This was a looooong time ago.
She may bit be a wealth fanatic, but en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Meyer#Salary_and_finances is an interesting read!
I've listened to her for years too and have the same impression like you. 😊
Time is better spent READING and STUDYING Scripture than listening to "false prophets and teachers." There are MANY men who preach ONLY what Scripture says. I am the one laughing and jeering....at this sad woman. She does not even understand that Christ IS God the Creator!!
She straight-up made her preaching say what she wanted it to say. It wasn't based in Scripture at all.
I can't speak to now, but be careful. So, so very careful.
The only thing we actually need to do is having a personal relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ and not be led/deceived by international preachers or prophets.
I agree that we should never rely on them more than we do the Holy Spirit but God did gave them to us to help us. However, we are to automatically accept what they say but search the scriptures to see if what they say is true and many do not do that. They just rely on what their Pastor or others say. They spend more time studying the bible and with God and praying and God gives the understanding and revelation that they should share with us, if we are ready to receive it. So though they do have some responsibility towards us, we still have responsibility for ourselves. But haven't you had scriptures you have read a hundred times and yet there was something you failed to see or catch. We all do that but unless we spend a lot of time studying and meditating on scripture.........we may never have gotten the understanding we need. So many times I have a minister of God share what they have learned and suddenly that scripture makes sense. You just know its right. The more this happens, the more you realize how all of the bible works together. Those times it seems to contradict itself are times that we haven't rightly divided the word. One thing that Billy Brim teaches is that you have to know who they are talking to and talking about. Some parts are for the world and some for the church and some for the jews.
Judas had a personal relationship with Jesus, how'd that work out? Adam and Eve had a personal relationship with God in the garden, how'd that work out? Cain had a personal relationship with God, Satan has a personal relationship with God - how did those work out? Can you find "Its about a personal relationship with Jesus" somewhere in scriptures and quote it to me? No, because its not scriptural or found in scriptures. Its about REPENT and BELIEVE! Jesus said in Luke 24: 47 "Repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in my name to all the nations, beginning in Jerusalem" What are we to preach to all the nations? A personal relationship? Or Repent in the name of Jesus to have your sins forgiven!!
@@paulbriggs3072 Repentance first then accept the Lord as your Lord and savior. 💞
@@paulbriggs3072 well u got her message all wrong. Wrong context of reply.
Better to commune with God than be in a church with heresy teachings.
@@mightyobserver12
Yes in these perilous times we may suffer some isolation due to avoiding spiritual contamination.
I stopped listening to her a few years ago, can’t give an exact reason as to why, I just felt it in my spirit that it was time to stop. Thank you for your insight.
Me too. 👍
i did the same thing with this guy video
Same here
I do not listen to her at all. She has perverted the Gospels!!!!
I also stopped ages ago. This video is confirmation I made the right decision!
When God reveals something to you, it must go hand in hand with His word, the Holy Bible.
Yes God can reveal tu us a false prophet we have the holy spirit within us as believers of christ so we automatically know something isn't right or something is off when we see a false teacher or even a false christian
Who's interpretation? Many things are misunderstood & misinterpreted by leaders from the Bible. People have no historical, cultural, or spiritual context to rightly interpret the scriptures.
@@andyt3789 I believe there are some things in the Bible that's open to different interpretations or there wouldn't be so many different denominations. However, there are some things in Christianity that's universal.
Wilbur Mcbride Interpretation must always yield to sound true doctrine,for truth is not subject to man’s understanding but to God or error,wrong doctrine,and misapplication of scripture,goofyness,and much divisions arise. Thus denominations. It wasn’t this way with the Apostles.
@@wilburmcbride8096
Like what,,??
All I can say is Joyce’s book Authentically Uniquely You is changing my life right now and I’m thankful for her ministry
The Bible also emphatically says, "Beware of false prophets."
@@robertkartechner5850 I’m aware of that. I don’t believe she’s one. No one is perfect and gets everything right all the time. People grow in grace and understanding as they continue seeking/walking with the Lord overtime. If she really is a false teacher, my job is to pray for her.
@@audreyestelle687 Joyce Meyer is perfect and gets everything right all the time, she's sinless, she said so
God can use anyone and anything to change someones heart. He's a big God. But I also know that I personally was led astray my whole life in a church where a lot of the people believe in her teachings. I feel that only recently I've come to understand what the Gospel is and who Christ is. No book written by man can ever replace the holy and inspired Bible. Of course there are many books out there that can help explain things in the same way that we have preachers who teach sermons. But please please read the Word for yourself and know that you know without a doubt what the Gospel is truly about. The things the Bible talks about arent in there for no reason. Every word was chosen by God to be in there and Joyce Meyer is one of the many people who manipulate the Bible, add to it, and outright lie. Pray about it and make sure you dont get caught up in making being someones fan or supporter more important than knowing what God actually said
She is very much a false prophet! She says Jesus was born again when he descended to hell! He IS and WAS God so He did NOT need to be born again. That’s only 1 of her false statements. Saying she is no longer a sinner is another. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. Her and Joel Osteen are in the same rocky boat.
You cannot " teach" anyone to speak in tongues! That is a gift from God. Not everyone will have that gift! I'm so glad you made this video. I have watched her off and on for years. I never saw the videos she did, that you posted, I'm just flabbergasted! Wow! What an eye opener!!😲🙏🕊
Tweety Bird apparently someone don’t know scripture...
There’s a difference between the gift of tongues/ interpretation and personal praying in tongues that Paul mentioned later on in scripture
@@jondough7777777 yes. There is! I can't believe someone actually thinks they can " teach" you how to speak in tongue's! SMH!🤔
@@jondough7777777 We are never taught to pray in tongues. The word even says tongues are for unbelievers as a sign. They heard the gospel being proclaimed in their own language not babbling in coherently.
A lot of people are turned off by speaking in tongues. I had a girl tell me that she and her family tried and tried to speak in tongues and it never happened. I think some Christians think if you don't speak in tongues you are not a Christian. It was a year after my salvation before I was able to speak in tongues. I knew I was spirit filled. The Lord showed me things other people around me could not see. And some of it was absolutely breath taking.
Tongues are finished. His word tells us EVERTHING we need.
This sounds like very old teaching. I’ve heard her recently saying that she’s made a lot of mistakes. She spoke about how her attitude was absolutely awful she said probably worse than anybody else. She also said some of her teachings were wrong. Not defending her but perhaps she has learned from it.
Exactly! This feed hurts my heart. The joy of "Exposing people" and wanting to expose more people. Really??
@@JenJohnson Paul called out some false teachers by name. 2 timothy 4:10, 2 timothy 1:15, 1 timothy 1:19-20, 2 timothy 2:17, and more. We are not to rejoice in the exposing of false teachers but it is OUR job to protect give a defense to the Gospel of which these false teachers are tainting. Joyce is still a false teacher, just because she repented from the prosperity gospel, does not mean that she isnt so wrong in other aspects.
You are absolutely right! We all make mistakes. I love Joyce!
Amen!
No she has not repented. She is still teaching the same word of faith heresies and she believes them. Check here...
reformationcharlotte.org/2019/01/10/joyce-meyer-admits-shes-been-preaching-a-false-gospel-sort-of/
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
Amen...
Alan Parr is a heretic teaching a false gospel.
It was originally named the heresy of Semi-Pelagianism
and later named as the heresy of Arminianism.
Wow this is deep. That’s why it’s important to read the Word for yourself and show yourself approve! Never ever take another person’s word for it always read the Bible for yourself, I don’t care who is preaching!
Someone please pray for me, I have a lot of fear in my life
Praying for you Jay bird.
I will pray for you
Done brother
Go to God in prayer talk to him like you would talk to any other being he's waiting to hear what you have to say he's just like any other you can talk to him about anything and he won't tell another soul your business so go into a private place in your home etc and just start talking he can hear you along with millions of others trust him he's almighty
Me too lately. I'm praying for you right now.
One of the easiest ways to call out a preacher is when he gives a sales pitch for an hour about giving...!
I saw Joyce a few months ago on some program talking about renouncing the prosperity gospel she use to teach. She actually said that she was wrong.
Yes I hope he does an update video on her an apologize for taking her old clips into 2020 and making a judgement of heresy on her
Word mean nothing if the action is still their! She still to this day, takes huge offerings for herself/ministry and promotes blessings for giving! That’s called prosperity Gospel! She’s putting makeup on pig....
Well concerning her still asking offerings.. now she just showed repentance for old mindsets (which we all will do as we continue to grow in the word ) but the bible said shouldn't we share all good things with those who teach? Let's read our bible and have grace, the same grace we want to be shown, the same mercy ..
That's good to hear.
Yeah now if we can just track down all those people that heard that demonic doctrine so we can unindoctrinate them from this love of money teaching!
Hi I am just wondering if it’s a good idea to purchase the Amplified Bible by Joyce Meyer? My Christian counsellor, she is suggesting it to me….. Please let me know.
She has a few doctrines that helped my family members with depression. However, we should study to show ourselves approved.
All doctrine comes from the Lord, and from the Lord alone, not humankind, and that's the first mistake that new believers do, instead, they take a mainstream preacher's words as ironclad divine advice rather than searching the scriptures and asking the Lord for advice.
I think those teaching was when she was young and not mature in the word.
Do you know what a doctrine is?
@@Dhaema09 unfortunately she was in her 50's when she wrote this book and a believer for many years, so we can't conclude she was young in her faith. It's so important we as Christians know the bible forward and backward to know the truth and be able to discern the truth.
Give credit where it is due, BUT what is the difficulty American-centric believers have of confusingng BIG MEDIA BUSINESS and the simple humble Truth of The Living Holy One.
yeh, fair enough if she says stuff which helps. Heck, shouldn't we all do such?
But we can jump off feeling like we owe her business anything.
Almost starting to see a world like the short movie hyper-reality when the virtual augmented reality user gets there DNA ID stolen/defrauded, and when they desperately try to find a way out?
guided to an app by X X and Y media entertainments. Holy Roman Church.
Pay pay pay, and up to level one.
Stick you straight back into the Babylon you just got cheated by. Instead of just switching it all off and praying!
I went to one of her conferences with my grandma when I was younger. She got up and left part way through, dragging me with her. I understand why now.
@@Realkeepa seriously? Name calling is such a mature thing to do. 🙄
@@beaberean3842 you right,i take it down
@@beaberean3842 sometimes i am in this mood,thx
I can't underestimate how her words have definitely assisted folk. But it does come across so business-model like.
And you can't help, despite it harming yourself to think so "how much cosmetic surgery are we supprting here"?
"Dragging me with her". You personally? Did she grab your hand and literally drag you out? Were you kicking and screaming or did you stand up and go willingly? Where did she take you? What happened next? Help us understand why now.
I’ve always had an issue with these “Mega Church” preachers. Most of them are just sitting on millions and millions of dollars and still asking their congregation for a private jet. “Give us money and you’ll receive your healing and be blessed 10x”. I don’t trust ‘em.
The King is Kenny Copeland hes worth 760 Million he no longer does crusades ...he just sits in a chair and speaks
Olsten is worth a meagar 4 million
I was in a multi-million dollar church for many years. I work over there as a childcare worker. This church had hundreds maybe a thousand people there, and I hardly had any friends. It took a invisible virus and quarantine for me to realize that I stayed at the church for many years because I love those kids at the childcare so much, I didn't want to leave them. They were the only reason I miss that church. Recently, God weigh heavily in my heart that it's time for me to resign as a worker and member there. I am sending my resignation email tomorrow to my boss. No matter the circumstance God is good!
exactly
@@sweetheart7743 Good for you!
You know the word, you speak the truth!!!! I love that!!!! We need more like you. When I think of Joyce Meyer I think do not be deceived.
When we hear people preach. We have to go in the word. And pray for discernment.
TRUE
G G yes we are to be like the Bereans, Acts17:11 they were of noble character.....because after Paul preached to them they went to the scriptures to make sure Paul’s preaching lined up with the WORD of GOD!!!!🙏🏻🙏🏾🔯✝️🙏🏻🙏🏾 LORD help us from false preaching!!!!!
exactly
The sad thing is most of us here in the comments are not going to search the scriptures ourselves but take your word that she was speaking error which defeats the purpose of discerning truth. GO READ YOUR BIBLE FOR YOURSELF, so that you will learn to identify truth from error.
1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 11 through 15 and 1st Corinthians chapter 14 verses 34 through 38.
Most? Don't be so cynical my friend. More people turn to the Bible for daily guidance then you may give credit for. The Holy Spirit be ever with you.
@@arizonafuelmanagement3573 and where's the evidence of this? If we were studying to show ourselves approved the church/leaders/Christians will not be in reproach right now. My people perish because of a lack of knowledge not because the word of God is not available but because don't read for ourselves, we rather listen to a "good sermon" than make time for study. There's nothing cynical about my comment but thank you for your well wishes i wish the same for you.
Speak for yourself I read the Bible daily and I know false teaching when I hear it
Well that's great! then this wouldn't apply to you now would it? Smh
Thank you for enlightening me on Joyce Meyers's faults in her early ministry. I have recently started listening to some of her sermons. I never thought of her as a prosperity teacher because I never hear her say (now) that if we believe we will become wealthy and have a great life. I am glad that what I have heard so far has led me to understand she really wants people to abide in Christ, cast their cares on Him (one of the most recent videos i watched), and live a life forgiving and helping others.
Please keep in mind that these quotes are nearly 30 years old. I believe she is a wiser and more discerning woman today. But we all have to prove ALL teachings against the Word of God. The verses he chose backed up what he said, but there are also some verses that back up some of the things she preached - interpretation. i.e. we are no longer ‘sinners’, as believers, if you believe that we are “a new creation, the old has gone and the new has come.” True, we still sin, but we are righteous in Christ Jesus.
Listen to Justin Peters Ministries. He explains false teachings and false preachers very well
You all need to stop judging her, everyone has an opinion, do you ever think you may be wrong.
These things were said many years ago, I also said stupid things when I first became a Christian.
I have found her helpful and encouraging, you can't blame her if someone doesn't respond to you, are you trying to test God.
Let God be the judge.
I'm sure your life is not perfect either, look at yourself.
You have said it well.
@@louisejohnson5184 a little different. She was/is a pastor that is teaching 1000s.
I've been turned off eventually by preachers over the years, I used to watch tbn and was introduced to various ones over the past 20 years. I've gotten so much wisdom and knowledge about the bible from Joyce. Her sermons truly speak to me. She's totally down to earth. She also is involved with helping people all over the world, so I know she changes lives in many ways. She always talks about her faults, she's like the rest of us. Not perfect by any means. Love her, please God, watch over her and others who put you first.
I am a massive, I mean massive fan of Joyce Meyer and while listening to your video about her being a false teacher, on some points I can understand why you might think that but to me that's like saying God dosent speak to anyone anymore especially to those that can be a vessel for his word and truth In this modern world which feel she Is where life and temptations are more prominent, powerful and harder to avoid everywhere today with Just about anything you do and want with everything and every temptation at the touch of a button etc, unlike 1000s abd 1000s of years ago, when God having given the people Jesus as his living sacrifice to the world for a better life and forgiveness from thier sins through thd death of Jesus on the Cross, yet even today there are still many around the world that still don't believe that truth and that's why I feel the world Is still In a mess and some are still sinning and sinning left right and centre In probably the most materialistic world that anyone has ever lived In and in a I want now attitude. Its not enough Just to take that all for granted what Jesus sacrificed Jesus went through that ment we would just be forgiven from every son by Just believing In him however many times we sin and been taken for granted today. God has to have a chalk line on forgiveness otherwise anyone at the last moment of thier life can Just ask for forgiveness and they'd get It regardless, if that's the case why Is there a He'll anyway then If was that easy. That's why some people Including Christians take that for granted as I said and as far as Joyce Meyer saying that Jesus went to Hell to suffer as well unless Jesus had personally told his disciples that on his return how would any of them back then have known otherwise, maybe he did or didn't but If he had and he not told them maybe It was because God and Jesus might have thought at that time that what Jesus had done was enough on earth for the people to understand about sin and forgiveness and salivation anx that he was, truly the son of God without having to say or do anything else. At that time that should have been enough for the people back then for that time and for all time really but for more than 2000 years later some people still doute Jesus that's why I feel you are wrong about Joyce Meyer she has helped me no end time and time again as she has helped so many others too and whenever I am almost completely lost at times It's Joyce Meyer that brings me back as well as God's word In the bible. She Is a great and positive preacher, yes a little hard at times and perhaps controversial but she Is an extremely good women who knows how to get Jesus through to people In this modern world where perhaps some people might even give up thier faith because so tough at times,
but not me some might think at times but they do anx some never return to God. When It was all written down In the bible back then that might have been easier bug It doesn't relate to them In the same way now, the temptations we face now are tougher In and around the way we live today. Maybe the finger should be pointed at the charlatans that Just preach fire and brimstone that from the bible that can Just scare the life out of some people should be critisized mire than are, where their compassion anx humility, that's not good or forgiving and loving God. Joyce Meyer In my mind Just trys hard to bring her personal beliefs and personal experiences to the table as well, to toughen people up rather than have them Just exspect candy floss all the time at every corner of thier lives without trying to change themselves inward anx outwardly as well asking God for everything. She's a great and positive preacher for a modern world in my opinion, In a world that needs that more than ever, listening to just what was said 1000s and 1000s of years ago and even before that Is not enough for some people today. After all It says " take the rock from your own eyes before taking the stone out other peoples" and don't Judge others that you be not Judge yourself or words to that affect. There are preachers other than Joyce Meyer that are doing more harm than good out ther than her In my opinion, for me she speaks for God and he speaks through her. My faith is strong because of her and It hasdnt always been that way. I Love you Joyce Meyer and God always will too. Check her out for yourself and don't just take l what's said about Joyce Meyer from this You Tube video she may even bring you closer to God than you ever thought you could be. 🙏 xxx
@@jazzswingstephendawson7236 wake up!
Truth is we are supposed to follow Jesus. Joyce Meyer's has lead many souls towards Christ. She is an amazing leader. If people want to fault find they will find. God knows her heart and only He can judge. It's not for us to pick her faults apart. If anything, hurting the body of Christ by creating division. We should pray for Joyce as God loves her very much. As brothers and sisters in Christ she probably has been given correction from other believers. We are supposed to use the word of God to correct and edify the body of Christ. I hold Joyce up in prayer. Her intentions are not to harm people but to help people. We all need correction at times because the Bible can be so confusing at times and we all start off as baby Christians and we grow from there. Listen to Joyce's recent teachings and books. "Battlefield of the mind" is my favorite. We are all sinners saved through grace. EPHESIANS 2 : 8-9
@jazzswingstephendawson7236 faith comes by hearing as long as you are studying the word 4 yourself and putting that way way above any ministry you will be fine if the Internet goes down😊
Yes, Jesus paid the price on the cross, not in Hell. Thank you for what you're doing for Jesus and believers.
I had a friend recommended your channel and this popped up first! 1. I love and respect how you talk about Her with love and compassion! 2. Any scripture you use is in context 3. You give facts and not opinions! God bless you sir!
Yes, I have to agree. You did it in such a loving and respectful way unlike others I have been told to listen to regarding false teachers. The love of Christ shines through you!!
I think it is important for people to understand a good "life coach" is not always a good pastor.
This is so true.
Christians do not need a life coach. Everything we need to live the life Jesus commanded is in the Word. Therefore Christians need nothing from Joyce.
@@jrhalli2 What an ignorant statement. FIRST of all Joyce is no Pastor. She's a BIBLE teacher. How come she cannot teach the WORD?
Dada Sesshomaru, that is soo very true!....When a person of this world tries to preach the word of God, then he/ she ends up preaching a man centered message instead of a God centered message, in which this world truely needs God!!!
@@jrhalli2 “ AMEN! “
Loved the way you summed up this video, having a discernment is so important!
Study the scriptures to show yourself approved,the Holy Spirit is the BEST teacher Pray for the Spirit to give you what you need to know each day.I spent five years in the bible 3-5 hrs a day,GOD allowed me to be able to Judge false teaching by KNOWING His words.Do not listen to televangelists,learn from the Paraclete.
No one can be "taught," how to speak in Tongues. That gift can only come from God, not Man.
Amen
So true,
“Tongues” in King James English means “languages”. That would be Greek, Aramaic, Latin, etc. Not nonsensical gibberish no one else understands.
She is a motivational speaker , I’ve listened to her & she has motivated me tremendously on some of my darkest days , I truly believe that’s her gift ! I have noticed , that she’s does ramble a lot ,and I don’t think she thinks about a lot of what she says before she says it (which is an issue) Thank you for shedding light on this issue my brother ❤️
Please keep in mind that these quotes are nearly 30 years old. I believe she is a wiser and more discerning woman today. But we all have to prove ALL teachings against the Word of God. The verses he chose backed up what he said, but there are also some verses that back up some of the things she preached - interpretation. i.e. we are no longer ‘sinners’, as believers, if you believe that we are “a new creation, the old has gone and the new has come.” True, we still sin, but we are righteous in Jesus.
Justin Peters Ministries explains false preachers and false doctrines very well
🙂🙏
@@christieherrington787 Amen Christy! That's how I feel as well.
Joyce Meyer: “ I’m not a sinner anymore. We cant be righteous and a sinner at the same time”
Paul the Apostle: “ Hold my sandals”
ROFL that is the best comment I have ever read! This made my day. I can totally see that too. Paul had no problem with speaking his mind. You, my brother, are so silly. I can't wait to high five you at the Wedding Supper of the Lamb in Heaven one day soon. God bless you.
Squishy Watchbee Haha. I’m glad you got a laugh out of it. Amen, we’ll see you at the sweet by and by. 🙏
Best comment in the history of comments...EVER!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Saints, we don't have to agree with Joyce, but let's agree with bible.
When apostoles write their letters they referred them to Saints not to sinners. In Romans 5:8 bible says that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. We WERE... .
Bible says because we believed righteousness of Christ is imputed to us, scriptures about us being made righteous are multiple. We are righteous not with our righteousness but the righteousness of Christ. Yes we still stumble and sin, and get up, because we do not love the sin as we did while we were sinners, we are NEW CREATION now, sin is not something normal for us anymore.
If Sinners doing righteous dids they not become righteous people, when righteous fall ,it doesn't make him a sinner. Bible in 1 Peter 2:9 call us a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people..... .
Saints, search the scriptures, see that after we were born again we are not called sinners. It is quite liberating to understand what Jesus done on the cross.
Many blessings to all my brothers and sisters!❤
@@jasongotcher6691
Amen.
I learned from this video. I do think she is for real and I learn and get inspired from her testimony. I think we need to learn from the Bible and never take anything for granted. Thank you for this enlightment.
Because a lot of pastors use sympathy preaching instead of what's true. Make ppl feel comfortable n safe like there's always a way out. They add promises or make up promises n that could never be from God
The Bible teaches us that we need to be very careful, that there will be false testimony and false teachers! Thank you for these video ❤️ greetings from Belgium 🇧🇪
Joyce = Benny = Joel = Billy = satanists.
@@suekennedy8917 yes indeed I stop watching all of them.
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It's good to get a real Holy Bible book (paper-bound) to keep and to read. Online Bibles on the internet are good but these can be censured and removed from you by the flick of a switch.
I'm experiencing Mat.24 firsthand.I see how the Devil works through the treacherous Authorities, Kings, and rulers of darkness to deceive many into worshipping an accusing god.(+2Pet.2:1-3; 1John2:18, 2Thes.2:9, 1Tim.4:1-).
It would be nice to have a “then” and “now” study so that people can compare previous teachings with the most updated ones (e.g., clips from 2020). That’s my perspective as a Christian pastor and as a former TV news reporter. People’s hearts and minds change throughout time. If that’s the case, showing two sides of the coin would be a great suggestion to follow. Still, thank you for honoring the Word of God. As teachers, much is expected from us. Our actions as Christians will be judged at the Bema.
100% Agreed. I'm not sure how so many people in these comments can be so hateful. It's hurtful to see the division among Believers. In these times, we HAVE to be responsible with the information we share.
I agree Mr. Philip :)
Very right Philip! Judging a teacher of the word upon individual sermons chosen with the intention to see what's wrong in his/her is n either fair nor, I think, a biblically correct approach on denouncing false teaching. I ought to take into consideration the whole works of the person as you suggested Philip Erpelo.
Joyce Meyer is not the best teacher I know but I can testify she has a deep fellowship with the Spirit of Christ Jesus who also dwells in me.
@@josephyedeyede4241 you can testify, as in Lord Jesus told you she has a deep fellowship with the Spirit of Lord Jesus?
Nahhhh she’s just a false teacher
Jesus Christ gave a clear warning, you'll know them BY THEIR FRUIT 🎯
Where is this teaching from? I sent it to someone and they’re denying it’s her. I think it sounds like her but you’ve altered the audio for copyright purposes. Could you please give us the source?
I have listened to her years ago after I was saved and it didn't take long to sense something was not right with her. Thank you for sharing
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All of the audio clips are 20 + years old. Her book that was quoted in this video was written 20 some years ago as well. 20 years ago when she was not a mature Christian and before she knew a lot about scriptures. She admitted in a more recent service that when she started out preaching she acted like a "baby Christian" and did a lot of things that she now realized were wrong. She now teaches straight from the word of God and is just WONDERFUL!!! We all have to learn and grow in GOD's word. It takes time for sure.
She isn't going by scripture if she is still a pastor because that office is for a man.. she wasn't for God then and she isn't now.. An immature christan doesn't go out and preach a sacred word that know little about.. that's not holy just knowing the damage than can be done
I listen to Joyce and she is a prosperity teacher. You feel motivated after a sermon but never condemned and that is how you know she is
@@chitchat1 aighhhhh lol
exactly! we must forgive false teachers and be open to the fact that the Holy Spirit has changed them.
I agree. I love her and have been listening to her for years. Ive never heard her say things like that now. Im a mess, but Im getting better because of her teachings.
The Holy Spirit Give Us Gifts not humans. Lord help us all.
Thank God that he gave us his Word, if not, we would believe everyone that says "God told me to tell you."
Amen.
Justin Durham, I’m sorry you feel this way but you have to understand the true context of what your reading in revelation also the message of who it’s going to. With as much love I can give brother I recommend re-reading starting at verse 18, or try another translation. Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV - For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not of your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Justin Durham revelation 2:26 isn’t talking about salvation but rescue from a temporary situation and the benefits of it. Context me friend
Amen 🕊🎁
I stay clear of her and many others, great video, thanks for explaining so clearly!
In my first year of being a baby Christ follower. I watched her all the time. Then, I watched a UA-cam video about false teachers. I automatically stopped watching her and a few others, PRAISE GOD, for guiding me away from them.
Not her voice
God please forgive what you say.. Please pray before you say about her
Not a sentence but all what she said in the meeting
@@quynhtram8393 ?
I have such a hard time with you Mr. Parr the way you are always discussing how wrong all the other brothers and sisters in Christ are.i think that is dangerous. Leave that to God to deal with.
I am so thankful I was taught early, as a child, to read the Word for myself! If you don't have chapter and verse I will not sit up under you! I take my own Bible to every service and take notes. If it doesn't "add up " to what the Word of God says.... not coming back!
I really appreciate your content and I think it's necessary especially in this day and age where there are false preachers left right and centre. However I will say as someone who used to listen to Joyce Meyer as a early Christian and stopped for years, then resuming she has definitely grown. The views and style of teaching have definitely changed as she has grown with Christ. Her recent teachings in the last few years have absolutely changed in tone and she is using scripture throughout, she even dedicates sermons to learning chapters of the Bible. I believe God has and is continuing to work on her and I do think that she may already realise the error in her earlier preaching hence her rectification and honesty through all her sermons about her early days in ministry.
I am not saying this because I am a fan of hers but I am also a Christian who, when starting out had questionable beliefs that did not align with the Word but I knew I loved Jesus. With time and continued surrendering to God, He has continued to reveal what needs changing and so just like us all, I am a work in progress.
Ultimately as you concluded, you are able to discern because of your knowledge of the scripture and your own personal relationship with God. I believe it is imperative as followers and believers of Christ to know the word of God for ourselves and have our own relationship with him.
Amanda B this is very true but in James 3:1 (aptly about taming the tongue) it says teachers will be judged more strictly for what they say and do. Has she ever actually come out and admitted her error and apologised or did she just gradually change her teaching hoping no one would notice? Genuine question! It takes a lot of humility to be a leader in the church, sadly I don’t often see that with these teachers.
We all need to have our own Daily time with Jusus, in the word, the Holy Spirit will reveal the message God has for you. It is the only way to have an open personal relationship with our LORD.
She has changed over the years. More balanced and practical now.
Can you do one on Jehovah’s Witness and Bishop TD Jakes?!
You mean TD Snakes
lynette john - I second that! 🙋🏽♀️
@@lolomimi4410 LOL
And Steve furtick
@@davisoonchonga oh no, I've listened to some of his stuff, but not enough to find something inaccurate... please enlighten me
if you're questioning that you should be listening to somebody (joyce meyer) then that's probably the holy spirit working in you not to listen to them.👍🏼
I haven't even watched this yet, but I am going to guess....yes.
My aunt gave me a book by Joyce Meyer one month after I was saved. I never read it. Holy Spirit said nope
Yeah she sure is
Lol
She is awesome! Period!
@Dwayne Johnson battlefield of the mind I believe
These video extracts are so old and raw that I'm convinced one will have to dig a little too deep to find them. One will have to be motivated by the need, the desperate need, to find something negative to say about this woman.
The Joyce Meyer I have listened to over the past few months is nothing like this. She preaches hope, love, faith, keeping the strife away, casting your cares on Jesus, forgiving and even praying for people who have wronged you, and moving on from our mistakes as God does not want us to dwell in them.
That woman opens her mouth and she gives upliftment to the broken, hope to those who need it and frankly if we all consumed her teachings, there will be a lot more peace and compassion in the world.
That's the Joyce Meyer she has become. I have never heard her preach about prosperity or wealth and I'm guessing she must have outgrown such teachings at some point. Yeah, OUTGROWN, because we're all growing, and women and men of God are not left out of the fact.
Of course, we do have to draw the line at some point on how much heresy should be permitted and dismissed as merely growing, but this is a woman who has actually owned up to her mistakes and now teaches from a heart of love, maturity and divinity, and even makes examples of her own past errors. She is a blessing and nothing less.
Hey Beat, you were spot on when I viewed your comments on Joyce Meyer! I have felt the same way about her for several years now. Some things she says are correct, but at the same time she is throwing her version of what scripture means that is NOT biblicly correct. Thank you for your feelings on what she is REALLY about. Because when a person becomes a child of GOD, one of HIS many gifts is the spirit of dicernment.
THANK YOU!
I think what we are hearing here is Joyce Meyer adding information to scriptures in a possible state of immaturity. She herself has said that she did not receive proper schooled biblical teaching. In the early years of her ministry I think she did say some things that were incorrect. I listen to her from time to time and have listened to her for the past few years. I definitely here a difference in what she says now vs her earlier days. I think that this was a result of her not receiving proper biblical teaching early in her ministry. Nevertheless, I will continue to be mindful of who I listen to, as I am with all ministry leaders.
Timothy S very understandable. We all are growing in our knowledge of God and His word. However what I would expect is for her to correct her theology publicly and repent from some of those false teachings.
@@thebeatagp she has though
Pemi Akin Ojelabi can you show me via a post or something somewhere where she has specifically repented of these specific false teachings concerning Jesus?
@@thebeatagp Perhaps... she should BUT if she is no longer selling for profit the books and tapes with incorrect doctrine than perhaps not. She does publically confess this. If my Bishop (who was Pentecostal and now non- denominational) combed through every moment he communicated his immature understanding of the Bible and apologized, I'm not sure it would even be any more effective than addressing the errors as they present themselves when he preaches as JM seems to be doing.
@@thebeatagp True, I can agree with that. I have not been consistently listening so I have no facts on if she has ever repented of these things. Then again I wonder if I would publicly apologize or if it would be a private things. I guess, I can only hope that she has done that rather it be in public or private. Thanks for the post though, it was very informative.
I certainly hope no one judges me by words I said over 25 years ago
It's the culture we live in today. It's sad to see
I’m unsubscribing from this guy. Who made him judge and jury anyway. Certainly not God.
@@char9646 had he pulled something from a sermon... Let's say even from 2010... Then maybe but even that is a stretch
If she is teaching about Christ, gets it wrong and doesn’t publicly explain her error...then her false teaching is still floating around deceiving people. I’m very thankful that he is bold enough to point out the heresy.
@@char9646yeah I unsubscribed years ago. It's interesting that he never responds to the comments about how old the clips were, doesn't let us know which year, but he likes those comments which support his view. So he reads the comments, but refuses to give the basic fact about the year of the clips, or clarify if the voice is really Joyce, which many ppl have asked about.
Common sense will tell you to watch out for celebrity Christians. They’re literally celebrities. Let that sink in…
Charles Stanley is a very good bible Teacher!
Yes he is.
Agree
Yes l agree. He is a very good teacher of the word
Yes !
His son has some false teaching.
Let us pray for our preachers and biblical teachers.
Allen I appreciate your ministry and your platform here on UA-cam. I do not believe that your heart is to maliciously malign or take down others with whom you may have theological, or even fundamental differences just for likes and shares
However, I do think it's a bit unfair to cite so many dated examples from nearly three decades ago to build a current case of heresy against someone. I'm sure there are many preachers and teachers of God's Word that may no longer subscribe to certain interpretations or belief patterns that they once did. The wonderful gift we all have to mature and grow in Christ presupposes that we will take His yoke upon us and "learn of Him."
So yeah, brother, keep doing what you're doing in the Kingdom as God gives you the grace and opportunity to do so. I just don't think it's wise to levy such a serious charge of heresy against someone with information primarily extracted from books and sermons published so long ago. They may no longer believe or teach such things.
Totally agree
Derick Crooms thanks so much for the kind response. It is refreshing to read a carefully and well thought out reply that is respectful. Here’s the reason why I made this video. Even though many of the video clips and audio clips were old, she still promotes and teaches much of this today with particular emphasis on the prosperity theology gospel. So because of this, many people are still being led astray because she has not repented of this false teaching. Until that happens, we have a responsibility to protect the flock from any false teaching that we see that is permeating our Christian culture.
@@thebeatagp according to this statement you just made... 1. Why would she repent of something she is still teaching today?
2. What is she still teaching today that you exposed in this video from the early 90's?
Derick Crooms.....Your response is a fundamental nefarious flaw with so-called Christians!! Please understand this simple, practical, & too easy understanding....YAHSHUA IS A JEW!!!! Yahshua is not aligned with a denomination!!! Actually, HE is furious with denominational practices!! Titus 3:10-11; Matthew 18:15-20; 2nd Thessalonians 3:6; Psalms 1:1-6........etc......STUDY YOUR BIBLE IN CONTEXT!!!! YAHWEH will reveal HIS NATURE to us. Stop listening to man/woman; please allow the Ruach Ha Kodesh(Holy Spirit) to guide you and to lead you in all understanding of Truth(Scripture). Matthew 7:21-24----Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, drive out demons in your name, and do many miracles in your name? Then I will announce to them, I never knew you. Depart from me, you lawbreakers!!! One truth....not multiple truths(denominations). In order to remove the veil of ignorance, you have to remember this.....paganism & gnosticism was severely rampant during the days of the first church, that Scripture reveals to us in The Book of Acts. Roman and Greek influence was ubiquitously immense. Just as different interpretations are just as rampant today! Read Revelations 22. It talks about cowards and those who continue to live in sin. Matter of factly, study Revelations chapters 2 through 4, with reference to those 7 churches. Either you follow Yahshua or, as a coward, you follow satan.........Shalom
Agree
Thanks @The Beat for this piece
I love your concluding statement"Stay clear from Joyce Meyer until you are able to discern the truth from heresy"
That is exactly what I am going to do as I am just starting out with the Word of God!
This is a question I’ve struggled with recently. I’ve watched and listened to Joyce for years and I truly love her and pray for her, but I’ve been hearing people calling her a false teacher. It’s funny because she’s actually one of the preachers who encouraged me to read God’s word for myself. She’d always say, “it’s nice that you listen to me, but that’s not enough. You need to go to God’s word for yourself.” I’m paraphrasing. Anyway everything I’ve heard her say that was wrong, it’s generally from the 80s or 90s. It’s possible she’s changed her view since then. Of course, it would be much better if she made a public statement denying anything theologically unsound. The whole charismatic stuff isn’t such a big element of her ministry now.
She has recently apologised to her church about the inaccurate teachings she made in the past. These complaints are old.
K I agree with you (those recordings are old) and I know she’s changed her views on some of her older messages. I’ve been to her conference only a couple years ago and I heard nothing that raised a red flag. She was adamant that we seek out truth from our own personal studies of the Bible. I believe her contributions to learning how our mind and thoughts can be our worst enemy and a tool for Satan to conquer us has been invaluable to overcoming Satans Control here on earth. I will say this. I listen to many different evangelical Christians as well as Allen Parr. I enjoy learning from them. But I read and study from the Bible for myself.
K She’s not a false teacher she’s just not a perfect teacher, But Who is?!?! That why we compare what we learn to the word.
Rachel L Really?! That’s good to hear
@@rachell7744 I agree. I've never heard her mention anything he's mentioned. Maybe it's old teaching.
I used to listen to her when I became a believer but now when I see her my spirit don’t sit right
Same here!! when I would see her my spirit didn’t sit right even when I wasn’t save
Wow mine either ,it was something off about her so I stepped off from listening to her ever again then I saw her and others listed on the false preachers list
@@debralol8447 @ This was what made me question her teachings too as saw her on lists. At first I didn't want to believe it but then realised along with K Copeland, Bethel church, Joel Osteen it was mostly a feel good prosperity live best life now gospel message 😢🙏🌏🙏
Good thing is the Holy Spirit does that, he will show you that something is off with this ppl. I stopped listening to; Elevation, Steven Furtick, pastor Todd from transformation church and many others. The Holy Spirit shows it to us.
Do you not think that the women God healed did not go about teaching what Jesus did for them??? Why did God use Ester so Boldly? Why are husband's letting their wives work so hard at home and in the workplace along with taking care of children???
I recently found The Beat and it really has been a prayer answered. As a relatively new Christian it can seem as though more seasoned Christians just want to get their hands on you and pour in to you their beliefs. Reading and understanding the Bible is a loong lifetime journey, so having this channel has helped greatly and directed me to specific areas in the Word to better understand exactly what God intended it to be understand as.
Don’t trust this guy, you’d be better off watching truthunedited on UA-cam
Judge not lest thy be judged!
Do we know if Joyce evolved from any of these false teachings? These are very old audio clips. Do we assume she hasn’t had a change of thought in these areas? I’ve personally heard her teachings contrary to what’s reported here…which is why I’m asking. I love your videos and proudly subscribed. I love your insight and exposition of God’s word.
I stoped listening to her years ago. I started reading for myself.
Me too
the more I read for myself the more I see things she says that don't add up. Same thing for everyone in that circle. When I listen to someone who is supposedly a great biblical teacher, yet they continue making what should be obvious mistakes for them like this, things they should catch on to pretty easily, then I need to back away. You never know what else is going to be misleading and unbiblical and flat out wrong.
Hi Jessica can I have your permission to have a nice Godly chat with you about my True the Lord Jesus Christ?
I feel she’s working for satan.
Me too.
💕Must develop a personal relationship with Christ our LORD and Savior. Learn the word and teach others to be able to distinguish truth from error. Jude 1:3
Lisa Love Ministries Jude 1 : 20 says the faith is called Holy not Christian
@Justin Durham
Romans 10:9💕
God is not mocked.🙏
@Sylvia Morgan
Matthew 5:8💕
I discovered Joyce Meyer a few years ago. I bought a few of her books & subscribed to her channel. I suppose God allowed this bcuz I was in a deep dark funk & needed to hear some positive messages (such as it's never good to complain, we should never let our feelings or emotions dictate whether we're saved or not). And I needed to hear those things.
But for over a year now, I hadn't looked at any more of her videos. This seems to coincide with my renewed effort to get to know God & start a real, bona-fide relationship with Him.
So thank you for confirming my suspicion. I'll unsubscribe from her channel shortly.
But at the same time, let's pray that God truly convicts her of the real truth!
🙂🙏
@ Lisa Now is the time to unsubscribe not later. May. God Bless You
How hurtful all of you are for saying such cruel wrong things. You are the enemy.
@@sherylhuckell9631 How cruel to attack Pele that warn of a wolf in sheep's clothing and using Our Lord and Savior to rob His Children! She is not only tap dancing her way to hell she's leading God's children with her because they are desperate and scared so she attacks. Typical of wolves! May she get her the "reward" she's earned ASAP Because she won't change, money owns her body and soul. That's sad. But justice will be done truly in Jesus' name.
Amen and I'm with you on the prayers!!!
Allen, thank you so much for this video. I've been praying for a friend who listens to joyce every morning on her way to work. Doesn't want to believe that jm is a false teacher. You have said it all. I believe with all my heart that our Lord directed me to your message. Thank you xxxxx and God bless
We need to pray for her🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Kenneth Cross Jr. NO WE DONT
Yeah let's pray for her! God bless ur kind soul
Justin Peters Ministries explains this very well
As for Joel Osteen, I’ve always thought he was a motivational speaker at worst and a therapist at best. He is obviously doing a good thing making people hopeful but he is absolutely not a Preacher or Teacher of The Gospel.
But he good to take your money he Rich.
he's like the dr phil of preachers LMAO
What is he making them hopeful for riches or spiritual treasures laid up in heaven as the Bible proclaims !
Well said. Not, a preacher of the full Biblical truth. Good Intentions, but following Jesus, is NOT "popular" or qell "liked" in the world. That right there, says a LOT, about Joel.
You did a pretty good video about Joel Osteen too. It really just comes down to the listener. What you’re capable of deciphering as true and what you can decipher as false.
If I know someone is preaching erroneously but throw in some truth, I would have NO desire to listen to them. I don't care if I can discern what is true and what is false, why even bother with them? I'd rather hear the truth from someone who is preaching ALL TRUTH!!
Carole Brelo I agree with that completely. My statement was for those who choose to listen to them. If you choose to listen then make sure you know the difference.
@@JustinHeilman Oh, I knew what you meant. I just wanted to write in a comment. Have a good day. : )
Justin Peters Ministries explains false preachers and false doctrines very well. Joel Olsteen is one of the worst
I RECENTLY FOUND YOU ON THE INTERNET. I STOPPED WATCHING THESE T.V. PREACHERS/TEACHERS LONG TIME AGO AND ONLY WATCH SOME OF GOD'S END-TIME "WATCHMEN". NEVER FELT SO FREE IN JESUS CHRIST. SO GLAD I JUST FOUND YOU AND LOVE THE WAY YOU TEACH THE SIMPLICITY OF THE GOSPEL AND ARE EXPOSING THESE FALSE PEOPLE. THANK YOU AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY! WHAT REALLY SET MY DAUGHTER AND I FREE WAS WHEN WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.......PLUS NOTHING ELSE! THANK YOU! FROM KALISPELLL, MT. 4/16/22
I listened to Joyce during the years 2003-2010 and during that time her preaching just made perfect sense to me . It actually saved my marriage and started a growth process in me that was life changing . I wouldn’t be where I am today had I not heard some of her preaching so when I came across this title by accident I thought what ? No way ! Lol. I noticed the clips you’re referring to are from almost a decade before I started listening to her . She herself has said in one of her sermons that I was listening to that she didn’t always get things right when it came to her walk with God . None of us are perfect and we do get things wrong sometimes. There is this thing called spiritual maturity and I wonder if that’s all it was with her . She just wasn’t as spiritually mature or as knowledgeable then as she may have become in recent years . I Know I could still be wrong but even I have changed in major ways spiritually and otherwise since 1993 . It doesn’t mean we’re bad people who might not have good points to offer as we mature and grow in Gods word. Do you have anything more recent? I don’t like the idea of scrutinizing people so much yet I do understand the value of careful discernment. I don’t think she did anything that she didn’t feel in her heart was right by God so I don’t feel it’s fair to paint her in a bad light . It’s like another commenter said on here . Is it possible we should extend some grace to her and see how she is today in 2020 ? Also in the last example you pointed out , if the reward she was speaking of was not monetary but within her heart and emotional health then yes , I think anyone can benefit and deserves to benefit from that . I wonder if the Word reward was Interpreted wrong ? Anyways, I do appreciate your videos as well lol. Those are just things I was wondering about as I watched this one . Thank you for your time 💜🙏🏼
tina halle has she forsure backtracked these specific teachings? If she just said generically “I’ve made mistakes in my theology in the past” or something like that... I think that’s concerning. I’m genuinely curious you sound like you know her teachings well, I don’t. I also believe in spiritual maturity and I understand you grow in knowledge on your faith journey but she should never have been in the position to teach if she was this theological uneducated. Because these clips are out there and she can never take them back. It’s a warning to people that want to be teachers to make sure you are biblically sound. I hope she has changed, pray she has changed, I don’t know her heart.
Hi Tina, first of all I’m pleased your marriage was saved. When those steps on stage to proclaim the word of God we all must understand that they are held in a higher accountability for people come to hear, understand, learn and trust what is being spoken about Christ. The Bible clearly speaks about this matter and it’s everyone responsibility who’s born again to point this out. Regardless of when those times were she clearly should’ve not spoken such foolishness. There’s times when tough love has to be administer. I too have gotten a uneasy feeling in my spirit listening to her reasoning of things concerning God. I’m not saying that you don’t but I leave you with this, dive in head first with the scriptures. Choose to put the word of God first in your life above basically anything. The Word surely will guide you in every step of your day and will alert you in your spirit what’s wrong as well as right. I too do not have anything personally against Ms. Myers but I do stand with with Mr Parr against everyone that chooses to stand in the position of a shepherd and lead vulnerable souls astray. As a fellow born again believer I wish you well...
@@Reeseballin8 I kno her heart she is a good preacher with no ill intent
Mr Allen Parr. I feel very very sorry for you during this terrible time that the world is going through..you have the audacity to run down a woman who has been chosen by God to preach the message. She's up there with Billy Graham... she's passionate about our Lord and saviour..she herself has gone through hell in this world from all the sexual abuse she endured as a child...she decided to forgive her tormenter...she helps to counsel women who have also undergone the same torment. She helps women who are trafficked for sex....she gives thousands of pounds to charity....... she has helped me personally to get over the death of my spouse.HOW DARE YOU. You are a hypocrite..yes she DOES get revelation from God.....but you wouldn't understand that because you are being used by Satan himself by broadcasting this muck. May God forgive you because you know not what you are saying.Give it a break....there are many many people dying at this moment....we need the Lord more than ever.... SHE gives us encouragement and hope which is more than you do. You are definitely NOT a Christian.... you're like the Sadducees and the pharasies.May God help you on judgement day for spreading such false news
She will be waving at you whilst you are being condemned....😥
@@cherylcaardillo1702 Just a thought to give you.. Not looking for a heavy discussion but there are for example many false religions such as Mormonism, Jehovah Witness and so on, that have no ill intent but are clearly wrong on and have twisted greatly God's Word!
Joyce is right about one thing, she is living her reward now.
Ethan, you show great insight. SO true!
Reward now hell later
@@12tribes61 i sure hope not. i hope that she openly states that she was wrong, and internally pray to God for forgiveness
@@12tribes61 I believe Joyce loves God. She spends hours before her day begins..reading God's word and praying. How many of us can say the same? It's not our job to judge where she's going to spend eternity!
Jools Pools u dnt knw what she does behind closed doors
I noticed that all of the clips you used were from years ago, and she’s admitted on more than one occasion that she’s made a bunch of mistakes in ministry during her younger years. Do you believe that she has changed? I’d be curious to see you do a video evaluating her newer teachings (i.e. past five years) and measuring them up with scripture. Always love your content!
that's how I feel, as I've only been familiar with her current and recent stuff until I watched this. It seems she has been corrected over the years and has developed, as do we all. It's such a shame she didn't have others around her to run her sermons by ahead of time to correct any errors in her understanding before they were shared publically.
True
It will be fair to assess Joyce's teachings in comparison to what she taught 20 yrs ago. New ministers may have zeal without knowledge sometimes.
Have you seen yourself any of her new videos? I have and when she pauses for applause and don’t get as much as she wants and criticizes the right side of the audience because the left side yell and clapped their hands louder than the other side that is shameful to the audience. Does she wants the glory for herself? It’s what she showed there. If she made so many mistakes throughout the years when she started it should tell that she wasn’t called and prepared for ministry. She was preaching out of her emotions and fantasies. When I preach or teach I backup my words with the Scriptures, not the other way around. Also God does not call unprepared and ignorant people to the ministry. Beware of those who rushed into ministry. It takes many years, patience and a lot of humility to start a ministry after being called. After all the Lord Jesus started his ministry at the peak of human maturity. Is different for everybody but there’s a time for getting prepared and to mature. In conclusion, she wasn’t called or prepared because the videos and her own writings testify against her. She have honed her speaking skills and throw in a few biblical truths in between but is still a hollow message.
Listen to testimonials from people who have left her ministry. Her apologies are very shallow and it's not great to learn from someone who did not always have sound theological sermons when there are so many teachers. If you're looking for a woman minister, I recommend Sarah Jake Robert. I got a funny feeling while listening to one of Joyce's new semons and prayed on it and found testimonials from those who worked for her that solidified I should not listen or learn from her.