UnCancelled with Gareth Cliff - Professor Mamokgethi Phakeng on Education in South Africa

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  • Опубліковано 16 кві 2023
  • UnCancelled brings you another thought-provoking conversation, this time featuring Prof Mamokgethi Phakeng.
    Professor Phakeng has been in the news a lot lately, following her controversial parting of ways with UCT. Gareth Cliff and Phumi Mashigo talk to her about the challenges of higher education, whether on not she got the R12m settlement, and what she might do next.
    As a respected academic who is unapologetic about setting out to make education fashionable, Prof Phakeng holds nothing back in this discussion. She provides insightful perspectives that are sure to resonate. Featuring a live Q&A session, where Prof Phakeng answers questions from the audience.

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  • @ephphatha7269
    @ephphatha7269 Рік тому +74

    This woman has to be minister of higher education PERIOD.

    • @ayaground
      @ayaground Рік тому +1

      She is phenomenal... I sense a subtle yet vivid energy of eliminating the box that the world over is trying to put us all in, by force. Her style of activism is unique! #itisengaging #thoughtprovokingspeaker...

  • @MaTT-ovi
    @MaTT-ovi Рік тому +9

    UCT for sure lost a gem in Prof Phakeng. I would listen to her all day!

  • @laurenfriedman5713
    @laurenfriedman5713 Рік тому +101

    I still believe all children are not cut out for university. There should still be trade schools. Electricians, plumbers, mechanics etc... have an amazing job in any country. We are in need of artisans

    • @innocentiaphahlamohlaka4215
      @innocentiaphahlamohlaka4215 Рік тому +5

      There are trade schools in South Africa. Esp close to mining towns

    • @nicholas4804
      @nicholas4804 Рік тому +4

      Agreed. Within days of arriving on campus, I realised that I was out of my depth there.

    • @lesedi3040
      @lesedi3040 Рік тому +2

      Definitely 😢

    • @Vv-fl2rm
      @Vv-fl2rm Рік тому +3

      Correct and the focus on those other avenues would also boost our economy.

    • @figgettit
      @figgettit Рік тому +5

      @@innocentiaphahlamohlaka4215 the system as it existed has been vastly compromised. this is well known.

  • @charlesmaluleka8279
    @charlesmaluleka8279 Рік тому +7

    This was too short, the type of leadership we need as a country. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @simphiwemthethwa8817
    @simphiwemthethwa8817 Рік тому +31

    We need more leaders like Prof Phakeng! Wouldn't mind her as the Minister of Higher Education

    • @jacquesdewet2661
      @jacquesdewet2661 Рік тому +2

      🤣🤣 She's not smart enough to know that "free" higher education pushes up the price of "free" higher education.😂😂

    • @stephensphomolotsebe5952
      @stephensphomolotsebe5952 Рік тому +5

      Failing to recognize that Prof Phakeng is smart enough to know that, is on you.

    • @lesedi3040
      @lesedi3040 Рік тому

      ​@@jacquesdewet2661 eh???

    • @jacquesdewet2661
      @jacquesdewet2661 Рік тому

      @@lesedi3040 - eh? earth to Lesedi.. When Government guarantees funding for higher education, Universities no longer need to compete for students. Now it's just about bums on seats.
      Do you think the Universities don't pay attention to how much funding NSFAS gets from Government?

  • @phumzamayekiso5156
    @phumzamayekiso5156 Рік тому +21

    She is passionate about education ❤

  • @khutsomaponya5511
    @khutsomaponya5511 Рік тому +4

    I love how you pick your guests. This is a well curated space. You are more focused on the content and not so much on the clout. I'm enjoying this space.

  • @gomolemomanche257
    @gomolemomanche257 Рік тому +23

    Amazing interview. Love that she’s telling her story & laughing about it. The establishment can be disturbing at times….

  • @urbanunicorn87
    @urbanunicorn87 Рік тому +12

    insightful and inspiring conversation. Professor Phakeng's passion and commitment to creating positive change is evident throughout the interview. Her vision for a more equitable education system that provides equal opportunities for all learners is both practical and visionary.

    • @phill029
      @phill029 Рік тому

      so what happen why is she out cause I agree with you

  • @chiefer1325
    @chiefer1325 Рік тому +18

    Let her speak .... Thank you for letting her speak... What she went through cannot be left unsaid....

  • @seputse
    @seputse Рік тому +4

    ❤ Absolutely love Prof,inspiring ,educated and relatable. I hope she gets the opportunity to be the Minister of high education

  • @ayandambatha6516
    @ayandambatha6516 Рік тому +14

    Great interview by Gareth especially with the inspiring Prof. Mamokgethi Phakeng 😊 🙌. She understands what Black people have gone through when it comes to education.
    I admire her Leadership at UCT and proud that she left because the institution before it became toxic to her health.

    • @lee7973
      @lee7973 Рік тому

      What she speaks and does is very controversial...like not all people are meant for university, like not all people are leaders so is the Prof..not a great leader at all. Only driving political agenda's instead of driving education.

  • @Loadedopinions
    @Loadedopinions Рік тому +4

    Gareth is a beautiful human being.

  • @Journey_with_Gwendol
    @Journey_with_Gwendol Рік тому +13

    “Even black middle class don’t want to see the poor”😢

    • @marcusdigangwane4201
      @marcusdigangwane4201 Рік тому

      …who want to see the poor🤧?…even the poor don’t want to see the other poor😢

  • @sebentilezanini1085
    @sebentilezanini1085 3 місяці тому

    He didn't single handedly negotiate our independence....he was part of the team our King put together 🇸🇿 lovely show by the way

  • @lebogangsebothe2759
    @lebogangsebothe2759 Рік тому +8

    What a powerful episode Gareth, you need to be consistent going forward. Here you brought a power house and you need to top this🔥🤞🏿 Am joining the community

  • @SPECTRE559
    @SPECTRE559 Рік тому +3

    The initiative of the professor to entrepreneurship as a solution to unemployment has my attention.

  • @mcebisisidlai6947
    @mcebisisidlai6947 Рік тому +8

    Mama Kgethi is just amazing! So inspiring. I am now working on my clothing line and it is inspired by her "make education fashionable campaign". Thank you Gareth for this platform, definitely UnCancelled!!!

    • @DSENYATSI
      @DSENYATSI Рік тому

      Her perception and perspective on education is precisely diversified, she knows the difference between the privileged and deprived when coming to accession on education in overall. Academical education has been politically influenced and inclined from initial, and now is very difficult for a deprived child to become an academic.

  • @desiree9667
    @desiree9667 Рік тому +2

    Prof Mampkgethi is gorgeous 😍

  • @lehlogonololekoloane3170
    @lehlogonololekoloane3170 Рік тому +2

    Man Prof Kgethi, i STAN 😍LOVE LOVE HER, she is so free-spirited, actually let me get my LLM

  • @lesedilucymotloung
    @lesedilucymotloung Рік тому +6

    Gareth your pronunciation of African names👌, sounds like you are from kasi. I've just subscribed, loved the interview.

  • @lawalusman5316
    @lawalusman5316 Рік тому +3

    You're loved and cherished across Africa. Keep On shining the deputy mother.

  • @BabalwaGexa-yw9ny
    @BabalwaGexa-yw9ny Рік тому +2

    I like her top....African traditional wear from central Africa precisely Cameroon and parts of Nigeria taraba state.....

  • @mortontlemo721
    @mortontlemo721 Рік тому +4

    This was nice, next one I am attending physically

  • @Markedama
    @Markedama Рік тому +1

    Wow, what an intriguing conversation! It's no wonder that this video has garnered so many views in such a short amount of time. Professor Mamokgethi Phakeng is a respected academic with a lot of interesting perspectives on the challenges facing higher education today. Her recent controversial departure from UCT has made her a hot topic in the news, and it's great to see her sharing her thoughts and insights in this interview with Gareth Cliff and Phumi Mashigo. The live Q&A session is an added bonus, giving viewers the opportunity to engage with Prof Phakeng directly and get their questions answered. Overall, a fantastic video that is sure to leave viewers with a lot to think about.

  • @KatlegoMakoalaJacob
    @KatlegoMakoalaJacob Рік тому +1

    I am in love with Phumi's voice 😍

  • @fionahorsley908
    @fionahorsley908 10 місяців тому

    I enjoyed listening to Prof Phakeng, great woman

  • @sinqobilengwenya6790
    @sinqobilengwenya6790 Рік тому

    Fantastic lady. She is the auntie every South African should have. I really hope she opens a university. I would love to be under her tutelage.

  • @shaunbosch76
    @shaunbosch76 Рік тому +8

    Great episode so far!!

  • @corinnevanjaarsveldt6087
    @corinnevanjaarsveldt6087 Рік тому

    ❤Thank you. I have hope.

  • @tumisho4266
    @tumisho4266 Рік тому +5

    Refreshing… Fascinating… wish it was longer!

    • @Mrdjwhoknows
      @Mrdjwhoknows Рік тому

      I was there live and it felt too short as well. I’m hoping to attend again, the CliffCentral team is just great as a team, they very nice

  • @rexona1178
    @rexona1178 Рік тому +11

    I like her African dress. It is originally from my tribe (the Grassfields) in Cameroon.

  • @sphelelemkhatshwa9173
    @sphelelemkhatshwa9173 Рік тому

    I will watch any and all interviews with this lady❤❤❤

  • @pablomogosi8712
    @pablomogosi8712 Рік тому +4

    So important this channel. Good job

  • @yanelamtati8131
    @yanelamtati8131 Рік тому +5

    What a great interview, am penning down all the wisdom form Prof so seriously until Gareth comes through with his R12m comments 😂

  • @bathandwamki5490
    @bathandwamki5490 Рік тому

    Wow!!! What a woman. A rare gem. May God bless her and expand her sphere of influence.

  • @otsilemosweu709
    @otsilemosweu709 Рік тому +1

    Wow🎉 Gareth what an interview .worth my time

  • @thandombatha8242
    @thandombatha8242 Рік тому

    Love her! She is in purpose for sure

  • @ayaground
    @ayaground Рік тому

    Mmamogkethi you Rock sisi! Thanks team for showcasing this lady❤

  • @DRDREWPOETRAPHY
    @DRDREWPOETRAPHY Рік тому

    Danko for acknowledging of Khoi San people as indigenous people of SA.

  • @rufarokumbula1639
    @rufarokumbula1639 Рік тому

    Love this

  • @mpho438
    @mpho438 Рік тому

    Nobody is talking about The answer Prof. gave regarding universities not putting out innovation, and all the guys making global impact are dropouts, the likes of Steve Jobs etc was brilliant.

  • @ztnelwamondo
    @ztnelwamondo Рік тому +3

    Brilliant Mind🎉

  • @tintswaloshingange7246
    @tintswaloshingange7246 Рік тому +2

    GOD elevates you when opposition cancels you ,PROF Mamokgethi is that example

  • @rachel4274
    @rachel4274 Рік тому +9

    thoroughly enjoyed this, I do wish it was a bit longer. She definitely needs more airtime.

  • @mogwerarichardtsatsengseng1103

    Thanks for this, best time spent. So enlightening to listen to Mme Mamokgethi Phakeng 🙏

  • @mosakgotse1187
    @mosakgotse1187 Рік тому

    the most coolest intellect of our lifetime,

  • @mpumibikitsha6891
    @mpumibikitsha6891 Рік тому

    God has a way of yanking you out of a situation you thought was IT in preparation for a better suited one where you are needed most. Maybe this is one such situation Prof.

  • @fortunes_child
    @fortunes_child Рік тому +4

    I'd be honored to meet the Dr. Mamokgethi soon as I arrive in Cape Town

  • @sisazandisile1337
    @sisazandisile1337 Рік тому +2

    This platform is really great , the conversation was honest and informative

  • @Crazyworld489
    @Crazyworld489 Рік тому +8

    This was a very educational episode!👏 I will share this channel to my peeps.

  • @MonwaShezi
    @MonwaShezi Рік тому +5

    Always a joy to watch Prof Phakeng speak. Thanks Gareth and team for this interview.

  • @thurancecameron
    @thurancecameron Рік тому +5

    I appreciate that Gareth paid Homage to the comments section 😊

  • @boitumelodilapiso2294
    @boitumelodilapiso2294 Рік тому

    She can become the first woman President Republic of South Africa Mma Phakeng ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @mosakgotse1187
    @mosakgotse1187 Рік тому

    i highly concur with the speaker audience 1;25;38 on the issue of academic journals not being free to access instead one having to pay for them. i honestly think the system is depriving those who cant afford the opportunity to indulge various scholars and acquire information. if something is published it should be available to the public without a hassle to access it

  • @carlamostert5950
    @carlamostert5950 Рік тому

    Come to Rhodes (UCKAR) plz!! We need this kind of new thinking!

  • @khulasandethembalethu9561
    @khulasandethembalethu9561 Рік тому +1

    this is inspiring...cant wait for the podcast with mac to be released

    • @Mbalings
      @Mbalings Рік тому

      Never such an episode

  • @jacquesdewet2661
    @jacquesdewet2661 Рік тому +1

    I can remember the ANC slogan "Liberation before education"

  • @qumbupodcast5180
    @qumbupodcast5180 Рік тому

    For years I was asking myself why Cliff Central was not capitalizing on UA-cam since they are the one who introduced the online culture in S.A

  • @nomkhosimashile2942
    @nomkhosimashile2942 Рік тому +1

    You have done well Prof..Jealous Down...

  • @hmwakamui
    @hmwakamui Рік тому

    You have listeners in Botswana too....

  • @kabelop9082
    @kabelop9082 Рік тому +1

    Degree + work experience for all qualifications would be ideal for todays kids it would help even sift or let people know they are not cut out for the job before hand.

  • @hellosamediaandthings4543
    @hellosamediaandthings4543 Рік тому

    Interesting to learn that Bophuthatswana gvt opened way for black people to get professional education with experiential learning which is what is currently done.

  • @LukeRev480
    @LukeRev480 Рік тому

    Yathandwa mama vha...utsho ngengqondw'entle.

  • @SPECTRE559
    @SPECTRE559 Рік тому +1

    I agree when it is mentioned that academia are obsolete institutions. My experience has taught me (I hate to say) that having an undergraduate level science degree is of no use.

  • @sizwekingmbambo1484
    @sizwekingmbambo1484 Рік тому

    I Like the professors Top😂

  • @askperci
    @askperci Рік тому +1

    Mama Phakeng is so energetic, I wonder if she has aspirations to be the president? Of course, running as the independent candidate

  • @BabaMakhanya
    @BabaMakhanya Рік тому

    I hope my wives age well like Prof Mamokgethi. 😍😍

  • @dangakong6304
    @dangakong6304 Рік тому +2

    Can we spend some time and talk about her gorgeous outfit, she looks amazing in it

  • @luthandotetani6657
    @luthandotetani6657 Рік тому +1

    Tjoooo at Fort Hare University. Corruption is deep ey.

    • @LukeRev480
      @LukeRev480 Рік тому

      Well. South Africa is corrupt. Wait until you hear others. One day you won't single it you will say "I thought🤭🤭"

  • @ayaground
    @ayaground Рік тому

    Yerrrr I bursting at seams, the sister is getting me excited and invigorated... The Agriculture part is just my field and that is exactly how I feel about planting crops and learning about them!!!

  • @SPECTRE559
    @SPECTRE559 Рік тому

    I am still struggling for a job which requires a major in mathematics and statistics. Marks on my academic record are poor. I am currently doing an administration job. I have given up looking for work done by investment, data analysts and engineers; quantitative analysts. I have given up looking for work heavily requiring a mathematics and statistics major. Starting a business (which will probably fail) is the only way to respond to the extended definition of unemployment.

  • @phill029
    @phill029 Рік тому

    greate ep but the sound is super low

  • @nicklindhorst9708
    @nicklindhorst9708 Рік тому +3

    Is the sound insanely low?

  • @thabangmazibuko9385
    @thabangmazibuko9385 Рік тому +1

    How does one purchase tickets for this?

  • @SPECTRE559
    @SPECTRE559 Рік тому

    I applied to the UCT initiative of the online school. I got rejected.

  • @lwazitshambo7762
    @lwazitshambo7762 Рік тому

    Oh l love this woma. Where can l get her shoes l love the print.

  • @akhonagushman619
    @akhonagushman619 Рік тому

    Inspirational. Love prof. ❤

  • @peterngobeni8723
    @peterngobeni8723 Рік тому +2

    Nota started like this 😂. Jumping and humping every platform. Enjoyed the spotlight too and got lost in it. I hope it doesn't get to that prof.

  • @andrewnaicker5090
    @andrewnaicker5090 Рік тому +3

    Gareth, you seem to have mellowed over time and with age.
    Listening to you back in the day, we where primed for interviews were the content would at times veer in a direction where we could expect, awkward silences, controversy, you stirring the hornets nest, rocking the applecart with great enthusiasm, pushing the envelope, man .
    I guess what im really saying, is that i expected an edgy interview, Gareth. Prof courted controversy and somehow , she seemed to be handled with kid gloves.
    That, Eugene Khoza is a really funny guy.

    • @Me-hg7hh
      @Me-hg7hh Рік тому +1

      She snaps when you adk het the hard questions, you have to tow the line with her ask jj tabane. Its her way or the highway

    • @Drawingboredi
      @Drawingboredi Рік тому

      ​@@Me-hg7hh Go to the highway kaloku

    • @hellosamediaandthings4543
      @hellosamediaandthings4543 Рік тому

      It was gonna get messy because Prof was not going to let him be controversial and arrogant and robust while tackling those topics you are referring to. Everyone who goes to Gareth goes there prepared and wrapped in defense. It's good that Gareth respected her but I noticed he was getting bored when Prof went on and on

    • @Me-hg7hh
      @Me-hg7hh Рік тому

      You dont mess with Phakeng. She told UCT ombud Zethu Makhamadela that she has been added in her little black book, when Zethu took her to task.

  • @SPECTRE559
    @SPECTRE559 Рік тому

    Is there medication to cure cancer?

  • @phill029
    @phill029 Рік тому

    why was she removed wow .what is going on

  • @ayaground
    @ayaground Рік тому +1

    When it comes to Decolonising, the whole world over needs to be decolonised, including the decolonisers themselves.

  • @weymouthesterhuizen1145
    @weymouthesterhuizen1145 Рік тому +2

    G4S = GeForce (That is the name I am sure.....)

  • @ndivhomathoma6325
    @ndivhomathoma6325 Рік тому +1

    TRUST FUND BABY G CLIFF🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @imatterconsultingbyvukosim1930

    I love prof but she’s not really answering the questions. I feel like she’s diverting a lot. Takes the long route to answer certain questions

    • @africacatalystshowvlog6440
      @africacatalystshowvlog6440 Рік тому +5

      Gareth should invite you too

    • @lee7973
      @lee7973 Рік тому +3

      Playing too much politics, that is the reason she needed to leave UCT. Thank God for that🙉🙊🙈

    • @Zwelethu202
      @Zwelethu202 Рік тому

      I don't see a problem in the "long winded" route if someone is making sense, and she is. Everyone has different engagement styles. Kanye west takes goes on for a long time too before ultimately answering a question, and he is a genius.

  • @francoiswilliams
    @francoiswilliams Рік тому

    Gauteng been taken over by outsiders...

  • @hlalanathimbimbi2527
    @hlalanathimbimbi2527 Рік тому

    Where do the seed of spinach come from😂

  • @figgettit
    @figgettit Рік тому

    literally nobody says wits and uct are the same. literally noone.

  • @Maria-yp6le
    @Maria-yp6le 3 місяці тому

    Yoooh Gareth interrupted Prof many times

  • @thandekakhathi7894
    @thandekakhathi7894 Рік тому

    Steve that Steve there blah blah blah😂

  • @tsepom455
    @tsepom455 Рік тому +2

    I don't agree with the audience member who says university is obsolete. The same Silicon Valley companies and entrepreneurs use students from MIT for engineering, IT, computer science, data analysis etc. For most posts you even need a university qualification.

  • @lee7973
    @lee7973 Рік тому +1

    Gareth, ... Prof is not the brightest. What is fascinating is that after 1994, SA had only 1 built university? All the previous trade schools, teachers colleges closed...wtf for. She only speaks politics and flashy about Dr, Phds...no humility in her speech.

    • @JabsMajozi
      @JabsMajozi Рік тому +3

      Sorry Lee. I still don't get your point from the first premise you made.

    • @LukeRev480
      @LukeRev480 Рік тому

      Facts only!! Maybe they don't sound humble.

  • @lebogangmokoenalebza6949
    @lebogangmokoenalebza6949 Рік тому

    the prof who never resolved the issues of dtudents at uct facing systemic racism issues the entire dystem of uct unfavoured the african child😢

    • @chichichiguvi7693
      @chichichiguvi7693 Рік тому

      I think she definitely made progress the system was flawed and she worked very hard to dismantle that system and although it's not gone I'm sure we can agree the standing of black students and the measures put in place to include them were far better.

  • @kingkumkazithe2nd339
    @kingkumkazithe2nd339 Рік тому

    Too long self indulgent pointless rambling, please get to interview sooner

  • @luckymtshweni5366
    @luckymtshweni5366 Рік тому +6

    The professor is not that smart.She doesn't have any new ideas.She is obsessed with identity politics and equality.

    • @lee7973
      @lee7973 Рік тому +1

      That is why she needed to leave UCT...

    • @chichichiguvi7693
      @chichichiguvi7693 Рік тому +1

      Maybe because it plays a significant role within the context she speaks about and it's unavoidable when dealing with those particular issues

    • @JabsMajozi
      @JabsMajozi Рік тому +5

      She has a PhD in Mathematics Education. Lol.
      University doesn't only measure intellectual brilliance. But if you have not completed formal education, it will be difficult to wrap your head around this idea. She actually doesn't have to be that smart to make a difference.
      What is your point sir?

    • @LukeRev480
      @LukeRev480 Рік тому +2

      She is excellent in identifying problems. Maybe you think problem solving is coming with new ideas but that's not always the case, but being creative with your old one's. I have never seen such a great combination of intellect & creativity.👌👌

  • @Charms0910
    @Charms0910 Рік тому +4

    Well done Gareth..however a lot of "erms" 😮 from her and waving of arms😂

    • @nomkhosimashile2942
      @nomkhosimashile2942 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Therealnetworkpodcastexactly !! thank you Sir...

    • @Anonymous-td9iv
      @Anonymous-td9iv Рік тому +1

      So what🙄

    • @serogolemogole2685
      @serogolemogole2685 Рік тому +1

      1st, her being a Maths educator by profession means she'd have probably have cultivated a way of thinking that makes her inclined to being extra careful with her word selection when expressing herself because excatness and clarity are very important to mathematicians, 2nd, english is not her first language and that means she probably doesnt process (some of) her thoughts in the language, and so as she articulates herself she has to constantly translate her thoughts into a second language, something that some of us who didn't grow up speaking English as a first language can relate to, and speaking of laguages, how many African languages can you speak? And also her waving hands like that as she speaks is something typical of people who tend to speak pationately and have lively personalities, does that offend your sensibilities?