STARFIELD "Creations" - First Impressions
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You arent just being an old man Gopher. That layout is a UX nightmare.
We've become so accustomed to BGS neglecting the PC interface, it's kind of depressing. This was obviously designed to be seen on a big screen from a sofa and manipulated with a controller.
@@rioplatshey man don’t demonise controllers 😂
@@chaserseven2886They aren’t demonising controllers, that large tile interface is literally designed for controllers which is all they said.
@@PippetWhippetthe joke went over your head
Been that way since Oblivion unfortunately. Not hating on that game BTW. Just aspects of the UI :)
The prices are insane, Dawnguard was 20$ and added tons of stuff. Quests, world spaces, weapons and armors, npcs, voice acting, Serana, spells etc..
After Skyrim, and with mods like Inigo, Improved Serana and quite a few other Follower mods like Khajiit will Follow, I thought it was going to be so much better in Starfield then Skyrim and they were going to be at least much closer to the modded followers.... I was so wrong lol. All of the only 4 followers that are worth really having are all your co-workers, none of them, even Andreja which sounded like she would be the follower ok with getting their hands dirty with thievery and what not. ALL of them will disown you like a bird dropping the misfit loud birdling out of a 500ft nest for even thinking of stealing some food. Even ESO has done followers better then Starfield, and there is not even romance options with any of them, though there is issues with ESO followers that I don't like either but I can at least like them and want to keep them around like Ember...
@@arcadeportal32 it so strange, Skyrim seems like the old one out. Like the people who made Skyrim actually knew what to do and after that like they got hacked out.
@@Subject_Keter Skyrim definitely has flaws with its followers but it just feels god tier compared to Starfield, even just telling a follower to just sit down does not exist in Starfield... and with games like BG3, Witcher 3. Starfields Companions just feel half-baked compared to the competition, and even themselves.
@@Subject_Keterthey made the game a labor of love and still had everyone contribute. The people who work in game development now are entitled and evil
So then don't buy anything. If nothing sells then the prices will get lower or people won't produce content for it. If everything sells a bunch of items then Bethesda says, OK the store is a hit.
This stuff is not rocket science.
As a settlement builder in Fallout 4 that was incredibly disappointed with the insanely limited outpost build options for Starfield (there weren't even proper walls), I have to say, seeing a building kit released with walls and proper build objects for $6 really rubs me the wrong way.
$7 for a single quest sets a bad precedent that I dread seeing more of
especially because they intend to have more quests in the same faction added over time that will all likely cost the same. If they do 10 of them you'd pay $70 for an incohesive smaller, shitty DLC pretty much.
@redwolfstudios5699 I honestly have a lot of worry with ES6. Worry that they will nickel and dime Elder Scrolls 6, Worry that they won't do enough to the engine, fix follower and all this when at the same time ES6 releases we will probably have a new game from Larian, Witcher 4, and GTA 6 by then. I feel ES6, if they don't release a banger, could kill BGS.
The gaming community didn't push back hard enough when creation club came back a 2nd time around. Bethesda got their own way and it just sunk in eventually. My biggest worry with all this is that Bethesda could potentially start copywriting all the best mods on it.
Well its got abit more then just that quest. Theres alot of new voice cast and characters in and new bounty hunting systems. This creation will get updated in the future no doubt.
Or like $2 addons making more targets. But alot more work was put in then just 2 hunt contracts.
@@SenturosGaviannus There's VA acting in that specific quest?
Just happy that the creation kit is out now.
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@@MrLogiPagythe creation kit was released alongside creations because mod authors who upload stuff to Creations will need the creation kit to make more complex mods than starfield already has
at it's current state, not really. unusable for most people cause hogging shit-ton of RAM & CPU
@@YachiAbunai Damn. Really? Classic Bethesda.
My two biggest concerns:
1. Moving forward, Bethesda might put less investment into the initial "vanilla" release of their games, and focus more on their own paid Creations. For TES 6, how much content will we receive via micro transactions that we would have otherwise received by purchasing the game outright? What impact does the potential loss of direct sales from Gamepass have on these decisions? Did any content for Starfield get shelved in the initial release because they decided to release it as a standalone paid creation?
2. Is the revenue split for paid mods fair for the independent / verified modders? I am not at all against paying for top tier quality mods put together by smaller teams, as it could mean the creation of more high quality mods. I just want to make sure it's a good deal for the modders and creates the best incentive for them to invest in building awesome stuff.
I am somewhat worried about the first point too. I'm generally going to look unfavorably on anything that costs money coming directly from BGS if I feel like it should have been in the base game. In the case of Starfield I don't see that yet. But for example, if they released a 'creation' that improved Space Combat by adding Joystick support and tried to charge for it, I'd be LIVID.
However I don't mind paying them for Shattered Space. I am OK with that not having been in the base game for example. The same was true even for small DLCs like Automatron for Fallout 4. That was 'big' enough, and 'new' enough for me to feel like it was OK.
@@GophersVids For every Automaton they've released 3 "wasteland workshop" style dlcs. At least Fallout 4 waited until all of the DLC was released before implementing paid mods. This is the same company who pioneered terrible Micro transactions so I expect them to only get greedier.
Pointing out it was available on Gamepass is actually a good point. Still shameful but possible BGS is trying to offset the impact Microsoft is having on them.
I worry about that too, but after they expanded the studio they are in a better position to continue developing content for their new, big releases. Imagine Skyrim coming out today, with that kind of success, they would make way more stuff than 2 expansions. They set themselves up for doing just that. The only thing I feel has been "cut" from the game, because it would benefit a lot from it, is a proper survival mode with fuel, oxygen and all that. Base Starfield doesn't have a lack of content, it's a big game.
If they decide to go mtx bonanza on TES6 it will be very unfair, at that point I'll sail for the high seas. We all know that game will sell a lot, who knows what executives will decide to do with it.
That's already happening. Creation Clubs, Crown Shop, and Atom Shop and other MTXs carrying their billions. People wonder why there hasn't been TES or FO while ESO and FO76 get drip fed patches and more MTXs.
The online debate around this stuff always annoys me. The supporters of paid mods always argue it will be used to fund big projects like falskaar for Skyrim the reality is all we ever get is a couple of weapons or a single quest for $10+. This feels like another market place race to the bottom where they are testing what's the minimum amount of content they can provide at the highest price.
Absolutely...
NOTE!! Use the Community Patch instead of the Unoffocial Patch. Objectively better mod that fixes more bugs and makes less unnecessary changes. Obviously, there other reasons to never use Arthmoor mods too.
I will note, I was asked permission if my code could be used in the unofficial patch. No one asked if they could use it in the community patch (they can, I just want people to enjoy a bug free game) but it would have been nice to be asked.
I'd report that to the team lead for that project and just make them aware that it happened, so that they make sure to do it the right way next time.
Releasing Micro transactions before they even released Shattered Space or any sort of substantial patch? Jfc Bethesda really has fallen
Just don’t buy it. Like me, don’t support this junk. I’ll still play and enjoy the game without any of it.
So dramatic.
@@Mrchair905 Yeah, because "just don't buy it" worked so well with horse armor.
Well that tells you what Bethesda priorities are. Must have micro transactions before anything else.
@@kevinsteinman8967 This are modders you're paying.
I had considered maybe buying Starfield in a year, or so, to allow time for DLC releases and good mods to see the light of day. However, at this point, seeing these shenanigans, I doubt I'll be doing so. Instead, I'll stick with BG3, Cyberpunk, and modding Bethesda's older games.
You can manipulate creations in Mod Organizer as when you download a creation when you launch the game in Mod Organizer 2 it goes to overwrite then you can create a mod from the Overwrite. Then put them where you want. If the creations update when you download creation it will save to the Mod folder you gave it. Nobody is mentioning that I know the majority use Vortex but that is one positive for Mod Organizer.
As far as I know (How it worked for Skyrim anyway) You could always just grab the BSA and plug in from your actual game folder, package that into a 7 zip, delete it from your game folder, install it as a mod in MO2 and you'd be off to the races.
@@redwolfstudios5699 Correct you can do that but since I am a MO2 user and only run the games in MO2 it is easy for me to install 1 creation quit then right click overwrite and say make mod then move it arround. Especially since the filenames are stupid lol.
Yeah, I do miss the overwrite feature of MO when using Vortex. What I am hoping is that someone makes an extension for Vortex that will detect 'creations' and let you package them.
Microtransactions, and especially microtransactions with obfuscated prizes and money waste, ought to have no place in a single player game where the base version already costs more than full prize
Should we just let the game die then? Or just sit waiting for people work on for free?
@@caiooca5793 What? I am not saying anything about substantial expansion like Far Harbor or Dragonborn
@@caiooca5793 What? I am not saying anything about substantial expansion like Far Harbor or Dragonborn. Those are fine
@@caiooca5793 imagine defending micro transactions in a mediocre single player game where they have to rely on modders to make it fun.
Who pays for digital plushie? Jeez
Argument against CC modders being paid through Beth: People already sometimes sell them on Patreon. Not counting donos on Nexus. AND, the entire POINT has always been that the modding community shares with one another. That's why 90% or more of them still don't sell their mods. It's a win-win for everyone. Nobody (most people) is against modders making money. They are against Beth benefitting from others' work and the egregious prices. How do a couple of those equal the price of Far Harbor, and the like? I think people are missing the point of a "modding community". Not to mention how modders could be or should be paid.
Well the mod authors who have uploaded stuff to Skyrim's creations how to make money and the ones who have uploaded to Starfield abd will upload Starfield to make money obviously disagree with you
@@GrievousReborn he already accounted for that by saying "90% or more of them still don't sell mods"
So basically you agree?
We will never see the likes of a Skyrim modding community again if every mod you need is sold. First of all, people would stop making mods that are solely designed as a requirement, something like SKSE or PO3's mods, because the mods on the store front can't require other mods on the store front from what I understand, so those types of systems and stuff are out the window. Then, pretty much no one can afford to mod a game if it's going to need like 800-1000 mods installed if they are going to cost $5 a piece. Then we will see BG3's mod tool kit and TW3's tool kit and then we'll see games like The Wayward Realms come out with modding support and everyone will just leave the scene and start the community somewhere else. I completely agree with you that this could destroy the "Community" we have surrounding these games entirely.
@@redwolfstudios5699 Agreed
I think there's a very good argument to be made for modders to not get paid at all.
Modding has always been a hobby. The moment getting paid to make mods becomes the norm everything changes. We've already seen this with platforms like UA-cam.
Sure, anyone can upload a video to UA-cam these days, but the content that gets the most views is the content being developed by entire teams who make boatloads of money from it. Long gone are the days when some of the most successful UA-camrs were the ones who were just having a blast doing whatever they wanted on film.
We already have a way for people to make money modding. It's called game development, and it's exactly where many hobbyists used to end up back in the day. Some of my favorite mods and teams from the golden days went on to materialize as full feature games and studios..
- The Desert Combat team helped develop Battlefield 2 and many of them went on to do some great work in the industry at large.
- The Natural Selection team started their own studio, released a standalone sequel, and went on to create Subnautica.
- Counter Strike/Team Fortress/DoD/Garry's Mod/DayZ/PubG which I think need nothing said.
- IceFrog, and the creation of not only a full game but an entire genre from DoTA
The more money there is tied up in modding, the harder it is for a normal person to make a successful mod. And the thing is, we know exactly what publishers and developers want - they want to charge us more and give us less. Bethesda want's to monetize mods so they can take a cut off of what is essentially free work. They want to double dip, and not only have their games be more popular and longer lasting because of modders, but to also make money from their creations. The moment that this trend sticks, you can guarantee that every other major player will follow and we'll suddenly have a whole mod economy largely driven by professional modders.
Players interested in achievements should read the Creations mod description carefully. The Bethesda Creation mods appear to be "achievement friendly", the other mods may not. Best wishes and happy adventures.
Bought the Luxury Homes add on and got achievements blocked. As far as I know it's not game breaking.
It's the same way creation Club worked for Fallout 4 and Skyrim
@@GrievousRebornActually, no, I believe you’re thinking of the Mod menu? I thought all Fallout 4 and Skyrims Creations were basically official mini DLCs.
On the PC there will be a mod that fixes that. If one isn't already out.
@@Legacyartistand yes you can have it for the low low price $25…have fun
always wanted to spend $7 on a fictional gun i will never touch. for ten fictional guns i could buy a whole triple AAA game
I expect when the dust settles most of us will stick primarily to Nexus as we always have.
For the PC community, absolutely.
The Nexus community is and always has been a very vocal minority of the playerbase. Bethesda is aiming at the casual majority playerbase that can't be bothered to learn how to use Nexus.
@@strangestecho5088 hardly a minority. mods on pc being so popular are why we got mods on consoles for bethesda games. on nexus, boths skyrims and fallout 4 all have tens of thousands of mods and are all over a billion total downloads. the top mod for each all have millions of unique downloads. nexus also isn't difficult to use, i learnt it when i was 12 using my mums laptop, it was my first time gaming on a pc/laptop at the time too. in many ways it's way better than bethesdas stuff, easier to search for specific mods, easy to sort out conflicts, has support for stuff like skse, ect. you're actively gimping yourself if you're on pc and only use bethesdas cc
Honestly, I was having difficulty with nexus. This creations module allowed me to just download the mod and play. No confusing installation process or anything. However, I'm use to nexus from fallout 4, but if they continue to improve this I might stick to it
@@GophersVidsconsoles will to, they have mod support
Seeing a community fixes ‘creation’ on an official in game store infuriates me. They literally have the fixes hosted on their servers, implement them!
Mod #1. Remove Club from main screen.
yup lol. 🤣
You do realize this is where you can download mods right not everything is going to be paid for it's just like Skyrim's mod menu
@GrievousReborn yeah but who needs all that extra clutter
@@GrievousReborn You only need this if you're on console though. Most people on PC are going to completely ignore this store front like they have for Skyrim and Fallout 4. Nexus is where you get mods if you play on PC and it's gonna be a hard sell to get people to shift over to using this.
@@redwolfstudios5699 Not me. I like the convenience and I don't care for Nexus anyway. Funny, people will complain about clutter and UI appearance, and then act like having to spend more time on a separate website is somehow just hunky dory and actually better somehow. Maybe some people just like to complain. And yes, I used the ingame system for Skyrim and FO4.
I'm one of those weirdos that loved Starfield, but I really think corporate shot themselves in the foot with that paid Trackers Alliance: The Vulture quest mod. I don't mind them selling "official cosmetics", but quests that Bethesda make shouldn't be sold as paid Verified Creations - either make it an actual, complete smaller DLC like Automatron or Knights of the Nine, or make it free. That they're okay with just selling quest content as Creations is a worrisome sign that perhaps we'll no longer see those smaller, focused DLCs - it'll either be big expansions or... microtransactions like The Vulture.
Other than that, I don't mind independent paid mods, especially considering that, as you pointed out in the video, some folks are trying to make a living off it and some have even created dedicated indie studios, like Kinggath and the Starsim folks.
But back to the paid BGS quests issue... at least on Steam and even online, Starfield was slowly "regaining" good will and the reviews were climbing back up, especially after the May update. With these shenanigans, the reviews are deservedly going (massively) down again. It's like corporate just can't let the developers, who clearly care about the game and are clearly listening to feedbak, win...
My biggest gripe with the tracker alliance stuff is... well aside from the fact that I feel like it was cut content from the game that they just wanted to sell to us.
My real big gripe with it is that they've stated that they're looking at a model in which they will release more in the same vein... So instead of working on a smaller DLC based around the faction, giving us a solid questline of around 7-15 quests, new features like the ability to put prisoners in your brig on your ship and bring them in alive etc... instead of focusing on a small full DLC around bounty hunting, they'll release 1 quest at a time, here and there until they've got... what? 7-15 of them out anyway? So they are releasing this smaller DLC in .... chapters? Chapters that will likely all cost $7? So if they make 10, I'll need to pay $70 for this small DLC when all is said and done because it will be a quest bundle instead of a small DLC? Thats Bethesda straight up swindling us into paying waaaayyyyy more for a small DLC that should cost roughly $20-$40 at most.
Then, on top of all that, they aren't going to let you buy $7 worth of credits whenever you need to buy a new "chapter" so you're gonna have to drop $10 to get the $7 worth you need which means I could potentially end up spending $100 to get it all..... hypothetically, based on the assumption they do 10.
Well some of the devs were too focused on "inclusiveness" to make the game what it could have been.
Jeez, I'm afraid to turn my back on Barrett 😂😂😂
@@wolfhors3_660 No, the Lead Quest Designer went to great lenghts at his GDC talk this year to discuss the pains of growing their team size that Bethesda experienced with Starfield.
Its shortcomings have nothing to do with the game having pronouns or Barret being gay. That's just delusional.
@@PedroGomes-cx7ku check the head devs and their employment history. I forget which one it was but you'll see.
My great uncle always said "watch what people do not what they say".
@@PedroGomes-cx7kuI beg to differ, a game set in the future and mental health is just as bad as it was 300 years ago? Real immersion breaker if u ask me
Just found out you live in Norway! Proud to have ya :D
Paid mods is going to be a no from me
Too be fair, the people who made them, have a right to charge for them. They used their own time and resources to make these mods. You'd want to be paid too if it was your work.
@@EchoAccord You're correct but sometimes that has limits especially if mods to rely on other mods. Or what happens if a more author releases their assets or tools to the public another one uses them to make another mod but charges them. should the person who release the assets also get paid? There are just a lot of things that happen to be considered.
I feel like I'm getting ripped off/misled when it comes to the Bethesda creations (the ones created by Bethesda themselves) because I already paid for the premium edition that was supposed to include any DLC type of content, this just stinks of mtx to me. I don't mind paying for community created content that is of a professional quality. I am glad the Creation Kit is finally here so all the beautiful mod creators finally have the tools they've been waiting for. Anyways, that's my two bottlecaps.
And there you have the real gripe I have with the term 'creation'. It all started with the Creation Club for Fallout 4, where I honestly believe ALL of that content should have been covered in the Season Pass. I am low key convinced that THAT is the reason they came up with that term. To try to muddy the waters about the fact that it was ALL official DLC.
They probably breathed a sigh of relief when people started calling those 'paid mods'. If people had just focused on the fact that they were all official DLC, there might have actually been more of a backlash.
You got it wrong. Premium edition didn't include ALL future DLC. It included Shattered Space, Old mars constellation skin pack and 1000 creation club credits plus the early access to the game at launch. Not future DLC beyond Shattered Space which you will get once it launches this year.
@@GophersVids I believe there was actually a class action lawsuit for a game that tried this.
It was fallout 4. @@JamieM20001996
@@GophersVids They did this with ESO too and it's the reason I stopped playing it. You had your membership which you paid for every month and that entitled you to all DLC released for the game and then they introduced Morrowind and we're like "This is a chapter, not DLC, so it doesn't count, you'll have to pay full price for this content" Which.... Chapter, ass muffins... call it whatever you want, It's content that I download, it's downloadable Content, it's DLC, and you just loop holed me out of what you promised me.
I love Gopher's verbal eyeroll at the ai search suggestions.
I can’t believe gopher didn’t review the thicc civilian clothing mod
Once something is sold for money prior to access, my expectation skyrockets. This is especially the case when official content is already either small and provided free as part of an update, or it costs the price of an expansion or content pack and has the corresponding amount of content.
A couple armor set Creations and weapon skins is just not worth more than something like Shattered Space. If it was a massive bundle of a couple dozen creations for $10-20 , then we're starting to get somewhere. As it stands, none of this over-priced dlc looks like it's impactful enough to warrant the price tag.
I mean, they sold $5 power armor skins for Fallout 4, went back and added a $5 elven armor skin for Skyrim, and we'll get $5 space suit skins for Starfield...
Seems like a good way to release dlc that isnt included in the premium edition, to just keep raking in that sweet sweet moolah
Community patch 🥰my beloved
You mean T H I C C civilian clothing?
Amazing that Arthmoor has been enough of a prick the last decade that there was a concerted effort by the modding community effectively predicated on excluding them.
Give it a like so people use it more than Art north or whatever his name is.
the naming convention thing made me scream.
StarSIM is pretty neat!
never cared for starfield and this won't change it.
Need a gif of a plushie Stiv waggling about like a panicky Kermit the Frog.
I see they learned their lesson about their high-on-crack ridiculous prices....oh wait...
the prices changed for credits when skyrim creations came out, just made them more 100 credits = $1 US
All you had to do for the Gravis armor was to quick save and quick load. That’s all I did and it fixed it
Bethesda is going to delay the release of mod support for Elder Scrolls 6 in order to force paid mods only after the initial mass of purchases are confirmed.
Feel free to call them Bethesda Bucks. Everyone else does 😂
Or Todd Points
I get it if some modders want to make a living using Starfield and they charge 5$ for it. But Bethesda itself charging 7$ for their tiny quest mod is insane. lol
That new pistol mod for 200 credits completely disabled my in game audio, had to go through my entire mod list one by one to figure it out.
Super odd.
Me too.
@@lucianjaeger4893 was it Beth's own mod or 3rd party? I bet it was Beth's "mod"???
@@YachiAbunai give me a sec I'll look at it
@@YachiAbunai enforcer tactical pistol by novafinchcreations
Please keep pushing against the microtransactions, Gopher. The community needs voices like yours to help protect them from being taken advantage of. ❤
Bethesda really has some temerity to charge 10 ish dollars for these lackluster additions. Honestly they need to make this game better/more appealing before nickel and dime-ing their audience. All of the "creations" credited to BGS should've been free. Eventually they could charge for future ones, but the modding community for Starfield needs more support before monetization right now
Well, here is a story - I started modding Morrowind, went to Sims 2 and later Oblivion at which point I got good enough at what I did to go professional - have not made a mod since. I can get paid for the same work or not - the choice is obvious.
If we want amazing, professional level mods than payed mods is the only way to get that, it's as simple as that - people with skills to pay the bills do need to be payed.
The question is if Bethesda can create an echo system for that to happen - where customers feel secure, vendors are payed well and fairly and the devs listen to both... Because you can't do it without the core software owner being good and involved.
If I'm given worse splits than Unity/Unreal/Daz/TurboSquid etc gives me, there is no point, if Bethesda keeps on breaking my mods - there is no point (all the place above take support responsibility after testing is done), if tools get screwed up and I don't get support - again I have better places to go.
So this is in Bethesdas court - I have my doubts about their ability to run their game as content platform - the game is good enough but the company behind it has bad reputation for customer services... And a big one for being out of touch with reality and slow to react...
We'll see - I'd love to see it work thou - just imagine what ever growing game with proper support and infinite professional grade content can look like!
My guess is that those items that came up for "Community Patch" are mods that specifically flagged the patch as a prerequisite (or at least "strongly recommended).
No death of modding this year, this game doesn't have enough mod relevant content, was dead before arrival.
Thanks for the overview
Just gonna go ahead and leave this one un-installed until the dlc comes out..getting enough of a starfield fix from the LP series
Me too
"I feel like I need to step back" Yeah because the UI was clearly made for couch distance and bethesda didnt even care enough to add a scale option.
Any chance you'll do a vid about The Unofficial patch Vs Community patch? Could really use some big names advocating for the community patch so we don't get arthmoors unwanted balance tweeks forced into a bugfix mod.
I like the updates and content BGS is putting out, but I don't like the method of delivery, and the pricing. They'll do bundles or special giveaways at some point, but I don't like the idea of them drip feeding bgs-made single missions, for lore integrated factions, at 7$ each(!), even if I like the stuff they are making like the vulture mission. At least they still make old school expansions. All the cosmetic stuff like the hab or plushies... not my jam.
Also, I find the fact of them hosting 2 fan made patches fixing their bugs, in plain sight, hilarious.
I found the creation store interface ok with a controller, a bit clunky with m&k. Liking a mod is only doable from the load order, convoluted. A shame they don't have video showcases in-game, some of them really need to show what they modify, like the mining one.
With the game now handling plugins I'm having some issues with MO2 deactivating some plugins after closing the game, even if the savegame matches the load order. Maybe MO2 needs updating, maybe I'm missing something. Not using plugins.txt enabler anymore, only loading updated mods.
Anybody else noticed the color filters are different? Or am I imagining it? I feel like I don't need normalized LUTs mods anymore.
Why not have an "Achievement Friendly" tab for those of us (Xbox users) who actually like achievements? As it is, you have to open a mod and see if it's tagged.
More I hear about such things and some of the modding controversies that involve the unofficial patches, my interest in modding these games is waning.
gopher saying thicc civilian clothing was not somthing i was expecting to hear but im so happy i did
Come on, I want that big huge "Gopher" tile page on the Creations menu!
I only need 2 free mods:
- Weightless resources
-2.5x XP increase
Game is now a 10/10.
$5 for a ramen vendor... Real ramen is $5. This is truly dystopian.
I'm a young man who hates change. I see that damn "Hulu/Netflix"-looking UI in every modern game and I just don't get it.
I'll probably be sticking to free mods, maybe pick up some of the official Bethesda content with the free credits.
"you may experience problems using creations" - wouldn't it be great if you got some sort of warranty for content you pay for? oh wait, you don't get that for the base game either!
Bethesda cannot guarantee mods will work. That's pretty much part and parcel of what modding entails. It doesn't actually matter if it's paid for or not. They can only guarantee content that they themselves curate. As far as I can see, it doesn't matter that they at least curate who can make paid mods. Whatever those creators make is their responsibility rather than Bethesdas. However, I would expect them to at least support the content that they themselves create. ie. the stuff with the BGS logo on it. To my mind those are official DLC rather than mods, therefore they should be obliged to support them. Time will tell if that is the case. But the other stuff? I'm afraid you're at the mercy of the person/people who made the mod. It's up to them to guarantee it.
I'm just downloading the free mods on Xbox, like I do for Skyrim. At least we have 100GB of space to work with. Looking forward to see what mods are made in the coming months. And I downloaded that easy lockpick mod as soon as I saw it!
6:20 the way the search engine works for all Bethesda games is that if the word you mention is refrenced in a mod then it will show you that mod. For example if you search "Minuteman" in fallout 4 then it will show you everything that mentions Minuteman like a gun mod. It dosen't have Minuteman in the tittle, but it mentions in the description that it changes Minutemen level lists. Thats why mods that look irrelevant appear when you search for community patch because those mods metion community patch
It just works! Then it doesn't, but then it just works again!
I think (have not verified) that the reason searching for "community patch" brings up other things is because within those mods it references the community patch. Just a thought.
lasted 20 secs on tracker quest before 'discovering they're flagged essential'. cheat room at last! is very good if just want to mess around with ship parts while avoiding rest of game like the plague.
yea I felt quite old with those large tiles
Im waiting for people to upload their ships if they can.
bethesda, they love paid mods and they will do anything to make sites like nexus unusable. Remember now that everytime they add a mod to that its going to break script extender :P
Are you planning on making an iHud for Starfield?
Also, weird CC names are nothing new with Bethesda. I typically download them individually and then put them in their own mod named after the Content before downloading the next. I would back them up that way, too - separate, well-named folders.
Beat to asking! 😂
There is already something similar.
@@GophersVidsthat’s sad to hear
Not for me it's not :) I mean I loved making those mods, and would probably make them if nobody else did. But they often take way more time than you might think.
@@GophersVids You DO tend to make them better than the others, but I can respect your dislike of spending so much time on it.
Definitely some assembly required with load orders right now.
I think we deserve some modpocalyspe drama
For 7 bucks, I would expect 3 bounties, not one. And as for the new bounty hunter faction improvement from Bethesda, only one fleshed out bounty mission feels manipulative, making it more likely people would take their free points and use it on The Vulture. On their last update video, they showed the faction headquarters with a display that showed around 10 bounties. They seem to expect us to pay the price of a full game for micro-transactions that aren't even half of Dawnguard.
Ah so that’s what the skins tab is for during the crafting menu.
Ahhhhh how cute.... these newbies.....its so adorable....they think their anger and indignation is something new. Two words: Horse Armor. It came out before the DLCs...a looongtime before. It didnt herald anything. It was just there. I mean thats why Gopher added in the sarcastic death of modding ...heheh 2024...tag at the end.
I look forward to all the cute rehashing of old Skyrim Creation club arguments. Maybe a sprinkle of the Fallout 4 CC arguments about splitting the community. If you noticed most of the community just ignored the creation club and still do.
But its cute. It warms an old cynics heart to see that what was old is new again...
imagine being a new gamer and growing up with this shit as if its normal
Said every person ever about everything :) What my kids consider normal would have been unimagimable to me.
@@GophersVids for a fatty u kinda smart right read few books in your time ? Said every person ever about everything :)
@@GophersVids Said every person ever about everything :)
Exactly :)
@@GophersVids eww u still here creep
I wonder if the load order will need readjusting after mods update.
Remember console mods on Fallout 4? I think with a few exceptions, I could get almost any mod that was on nexus....for free.
Not a fan, but deffo not the death of modding lol. Was intrigued by the same mod as you tbh. Looks very interesting.
I might be in the minority, but I have no issue with individuals or indie developer teams creating monetized content (like the Mining Conglomerate) IF they are able to maintain it for the lifetime of the game updates, AND the value is reasonable. $5.00 for new gameplay functions, quests, radiants, and RPG elements, I think is fairly reasonable (again, if something like the mining conglomerate is done well). That seems like a fair value to me on first impressions.
However, I do not like the Bethesda official creations for two reasons:
1. Microtransactions are the capitalistic nightmare that will make people look at gaming companies one day the way flight passengers look at Boeing nowadays.
2. The cost you pay for what you get is never good. $5.00 for an armor set and gun? The base game is 70.00, it's just not reasonable. If Bethesda creations were more reasonable priced (eg $0.50 for an armor set and gun IMO is reasonable) I would have less of an issue with them.
I think the best solution for this would be if all creations were community made and Bethesda just took a share of the profit for hosting the mod on their page and vetted the creators properly. People will still make free mods; it's never going to go away; but maybe something like the Starfield creations will incentivize people or even teams of people to make really impressive content (think Falskaar or Sim Settlements 2 type of content). But Bethesda really just needs to leave the making of content to the community.
ALSO They really need to add in a bug report section and discussion board section for these creations.
Yeah a pistol is literally worth nothing because 300 other people will make pistols. Same for short quests, armor, etc.
Only a handful of modders make mechanic overhauls
@@Jasonwolf1495 I’d pay for Neeher’s weapons, but that’s about it
This is exactly what we were all asking for...never ago. But leave it to Bethesda to cram another "creation" down our throats anyway. Not like they're the only ones doing it so might as well make it a party right?
They should make most paid mods that are lore friendly or a few achievement friendly
I mean it's fine I suppose, I'm not bothered by it. If I want to be angry or upset about something it will take more than some creations in a game lol.
The last game I purchased 10 years ago (OK, I did buy RDR2) was Skyrim. Looking at this video and others, the world of gaming has become too complicated for me. I think I am checking out.
Definitely death of modding time, I shall await the T shirts.
Come on guys! This is the horse armor company, you know, the that started it all…
One of the mods crashed my console during gameplay. No sound, terrible lag and screens not loading
Deleted all except the vulture which was ok but still need much more
The new pistol nuked my audio lol
Can't wait to see what the new creations look like...did anyone make a space-station outpost building mod available on creations yet?
Please do a thicc civilian clothing mod review
I hope Sharted Space is some huge expansion level thing like Bethesda used to do. I bet it will just be cr*p though.
I have never been very keen on paid mods, However, that being said, some of the mods I have tried are very much worth it. I have never bought mods from here, but I have in Skyrim/Fallout 4 CC, I love weapons and armor mods, as well as very great put together story mods, like the ones from skyrim (Tribunal etc) I love Morrowind so these are typically the mods I don't mind paying for, Besides most modders I know of, modding is more of a hobby, and I believe in some cases deserve to get paid for their work. But that's my own opinion!!👍
As long as we can still use Vortex/Nexus Mods and stuff and not be Forced to use Their service to coerce you into having to pay for mods it's fine
For the Gravis suit, I didn’t have to do anything except restart the game.
Since the update and adding creations, I am experiencing an issue when i jump through the unity from NG+6 to NG+... i receive the new starborn suit, however my chracter level and save file is still saying NG+6 :/
"It has been 0 days since the last modpocalypse"
Really though, I generally don't mind this TOO much. I appreciate that they specify which ones are BGS creations so that I know which ones not to buy, but ideally they would remove any and all BGS creations (or make them all free, but that's not happening) and just take a small cut of anything they host or that verified creators make or something. I'd rather my "creations" money go to indie creators and have BGS release DLCs or expansions that don't even have to be THAT big (think Automatron in Fallout 4). But I do recognize that BGS deserves at least some extra revenue for hosting these things and all that. I don't know what the perfect business model is for BGS to make money and still come out looking good, but it ain't this. But I'd still say this isn't the worst.
I like the big icons
OK ... so I read you comment and my brain could not help but add "and I cannot lie" to it :)
I am probably aging myself right now.
@@GophersVids lol just the fact when you have limited vision makes sense with big icons 😎
When is immersive hud coming or is that retired because there already is a version of it?
Bethesda: Release a game that is so bad that it needs mods to be enjoyable.
Also Bethesda: Pay us for mods
i found my gravis suit without having to re-enable it thankfully, sucks that its a full suit and not armor, helmet, and jetpack slots. I kinda want them to give us more free credits for buying the game, and $7 for trackers or $6 houses, eyuck.
I think the craziest part of this is that they gave console players 99gb of space to play with this time
I also noticed if a mod causes the game to crash when it reorginises your load order it automatically deactivates the mods that caused the issue at least it did for me once the only time i had a pro0lem. I saw the mods were deactivated so reactivated them and it crashed again and they were automatically deactivated, I cannot remember what mod it was But it said i needed other mods that it relies upon or something. But the fact it isolates the offending mod is brilliant. No more deleting 10 mods at a time till it stops crashing then reactivating them one at a time till it crashes again to find the offending mod. That is how I used to do it. It took so long so I am happy they made that adjustment. Anyone else notice it?
Just tell me when Kinggath drops a product and I'm there.
I think it's good, although it will make some drama between modders doing it for love and those in it for the money... but I think we'll get used to it
So did you install thick civilian clothing or not?
I plan to wait until about 6 months after Shattered Space has been released. I figure by then patches and modders will have smoothed out the most egregious of the inevitable bugs and other bullshit. And by then Starfield just might be worth playing some more. Time will tell.
Payed Mods and Micro Transactions!? Yay!!!
Is this a Mandela Effect thing, or did Bethesda say that Creations are definitely NOT paid mods?