Starship Launch Aftermath
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2023
- The aftermath of the first Starship Super Heavy launch around the launch complex, shot a couple days after launch once the public road was opened back up. The liftoff on April 20 caused significant damage to the pad, surrounding refuge & even the rocket itself. The rocket proceeded into ascent & Max Q, before tumbling & being self-destructed.
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Finally a close look inspection of debris and destruction. Thank you very much. I wonder where starship peaces landed since didn't look like a big explosion, the booster after 4 minutes was probably almost empty.
In the Gulf of Mexico, that is why the launch the rockets over oceans so the debris from failures land in the water not on land where people could be killed or injured and property damaged.
you could hear the explosion from 190 miles away , that was a big explosion
They need a lot of concrete in space do they?
Din greșeli or învăța si vor remedia greșelile! Succes în continuare!
@@PromasterHOF excellent answer, thank you for your attention.
99% of damage because there was no exhaust diverting pit.
This is total incompetence for me...
@@adalvideos he was upset that Gr1Mes asked him for money to buy a huge Svarowski necklace, again..
@@adalvideos you would think that would have been in the books and to not have everything so close to a rocket launch
Some middle school kid drawing a launch pad would have included some form of a diverting pit. Its literally one of the most noticeable features of a launch pad and for good fucking reason.
Its so mind blowing that adults are looking at this clown elon musk as somehow a smart person or innovator when he is clearly nothing of the sort. In fact, theres plenty of evidence that hes nothing more than a menace given the shit hes done. Lying about solar roofs, calling that cave rescuer a pedo, throwing a trantrum over a shitty social media website and spending a massive amount of money to buy it so that he can censor people. How the fuck have we allowed this guy to take up so much attention from real space exploration efforts let alone allowed him to effectively push the bullshit narrative that he cares about anyone other than himself??
Mask makes not space, but money
5:16 damn... you can actually see how that concrete rolled through the sands xD
I found something to surprise you with...we haven't had this before...I have lived half my life at the Baikonur cosmodrome...there in '69 it was even cooler than yours
Как перекати-поле в пустыне с верблюдами)
I know reusability is key to these missions but that goes for ground support infrastructure as well!
Yeah exactly. If there's this much damage after a single launch, what will it look like after ten? One hundred?
Its clearly not key at all. I mean what evidence do you have that spacex has any interest in re-usability after watching this other than Musk's circus show of never ending claims? If he was actually interested in that, why the hell didn't he put a single thought into protecting the launch pad with technology that is already hashed out and used extensively by organizations like NASA?
I mean at every turn this whole thing looks more and more clownish.
You cant build ground infrastructure on Mars lmao
@@furriesinouterspaceUnited even if that claim were true, what difference would it make, dummy?
@@furriesinouterspaceUnited Sure you can. Crushing equipment can be run remote control, all that's needed is water and a cement like substance. Robots can build it being controlled from earth. Welcome to the New World lmao
The rocket wanted-needed- a flame trench. Since SpaceX didn’t provide one, the rocket made its own.
Blows my mind that they overlooked this. Or worse, thought it wouldn’t need one
@@alaefarmestatesllc Maybe it was kinda of a test since once we get to Mars, we wont be able to create one to launch off Mars to get back home. Maybe they were curious to how much damage would occur.
I think that initially they wanted to repeat the success of Russian military missiles, with them all missiles are first thrown slightly above the ground and only at a safe distance from the launcher or submarine are the sustainer engines turned on to full capacity. Apparently something went wrong, the rocket began to roll and the control system or the operator gave full throttle almost immediately, without waiting for the rocket to move away from the launch stool to a safe distance and altitude.
@@alaefarmestatesllc Original, reusable rocket and disposable launch complex, awesome savings!
Even the bad guy in "The Incredibles" had a flame trench ,😁😁
This is mind blowing, it’s like the apocalypse. I am surprised they’re allowing people to roam freely. It’s wild that this piece of concrete 4:46 was forced along the ground like that. Very impressive, this was one of the better aftermath videos I’ve seen yet. I’d like to see more of the beach and what all ended up there. You can see in other videos the giant splashes when chunks hit the water.
The dumbest comment...but this is purely yours..American...love to destroy and not build...like sheep...In fact, instead of seeing success, this person dreams of seeing a splash of water....A complete idiot
Beach debris was cleaned up before the Sheriff opened the public road, nothing but some small chunks of concrete were left
That was nice to watch in full res. Could even spot that bug running on the white destroyed camera. The wind noise might be a mic problem, but for me it added to the feeling of being there.
Heh. It felt like the launch was taking place all over again! This was a great tour of the place BTW.
Houston were gonna need a bigger flame diverter😂
The most powerful rocket in all of Human History takes off, WITHOUT adequate ground systems to mitigate against the insane forces involved...???
Seriously... What did people expect WOULD happen!? And the fact that this thing didn't just blow up on the pad right there, right then, is a HUGE win in my opinion!!!
No, this isn't huge win. Spacex should've waited for the ground suppression system to be constructed before launch. There are many debris that pollutes nearby protected nature areas and settlements. This definitely give bad public opinion regarding starship. And the FAA will analyze this situation for months before another test launch.
I would guess the average Joe with any common sense, and a bit of basic physics knowledge could have told them this or worse was going to be the result.
@@Mongoosed people did tell them..... your tax dollars at work
This was no win despite SX trying to spin it with their PR chicks and fanbois. Mistakes get made, but this is a proven oversight in 1962...learned 60 years ago.
Even if orbital, this launch facility would show a fatal flaw. Reusable rockets but you have to demolish and rebuild the spaceport after each launch. You need a 10 sq mile dead zone for each tower. That's a commercial disaster if not rectified with a redesign.
I've always thought that launch tower is waaay to close to all that ground equipment. Not surprised in the least.
Not having an exhaust pit to direct all of that energy away safely means the same thing will happen again. Were any of those engines damaged by flying debris? Even if there is a small chance of that happening then the whole launch tower complex needs to be redesigned. It's too close to the tanks and other surrounding infrastructure, Vehicles damaged, large rocks of concrete strewn all around, etc... It has to work flawlessly every time. The concept however, is magnificent and I love what Space X is doing.
Your whole concept was already tested and used by Russians in the USSR several times in 1969 ...so learn from them ...once upon a time, 50 years ago...
The fact that they are trying to launch again in 2 months with this amount of damage blows me away.
IFT1 and IFT2 were like night and day in every single aspect.
Big congratulations to SpaceX engineers that they managed to tame the beast!
I always thought the tanks were way too close to the launch pad, but I am not a rocket technician.
That's OK neither is Elon Musk😂
maybe just put a thick metal sheet on top of the concrete slab to absorb the heat before it starts breaking apart the concrete
Bloody impressive footage. The whole mayhem reminds me of the soviet young pioneers' amateur rocket builders' country camp. Although they would had taken the safety considerations more seriously. Way to go, way to go...
I guess the engineers in charge of the launch pad have to go back to the drawing tables.. this has to be pretty much rebuilt from the ground up and improved in many ways.. I think we won’t see another launch attempt for at least another year or longer!
I think they can reuse almost the entire OLM (the thing the rocket stands on), the tower was basically unscathed, some of the piping from the tank farm to the tower and OLM was damaged, some of the vertical tanks were damaged. Don't know about the horizontal tanks. Also don't know if it was only the outer cylinder for the vertical tanks -- if so, that's easy to replace. The outer cylinder doesn't need to be pressurized or to cope with the same wild temperature swings as the inner cylinder. It also doesn't need to be leak proof.
The test verified that the basic design was in fact very sound. They have a fix ready soon for the concrete under the OLM: a flat double layer steel shield with water piped through it for cooling. It's been in the works for a couple of months. If that works, they are basically done with the design.
Well it shows the design is not sound at all and if the whole didn’t blow it is just a miracle. They have to redesign the complete launchpad if they are planning to get serious. I would advise to move back to cap Canaveral. This whole place is not suited for professional launches
The goal was to test without any drainage canal massive construction to learn more and to save money. By maximizing risk with this attempt, they can now more accurately build up. When things break you learn the limits of your hardware.
The only drawing table they have to go to is the one that was written 50 years ago.
3 - 4 months.
Как можно было такое запускать практически с "поверхности земли"? Не удивлюсь если бустер был повреждён ещё на моменте запуска.
я вообще удивлен, что камни и арматуры баки не пробили и не взорвалось все)
before: everbody cheering "launch launch launch" / "its going to be great" / "cant wait for launch" / "4 20 haha.. launch"
after: everybody looking at damage: " why did they even launch ?" / " it was so clear this would happen" / " i knew it " / " why didnt they make a flame trench? "
Yeah, 20/20 hindsight. But... Elon had twitted himself about it being a big risk way way back... so no.. You can only fail fast if there is a high iteration rate, which stage 0 doesn't have.
In the play "The Music Man" the salesman called it The Think Method.
Engineering isn't having faith. It is designing past tolerance. These are 1961 mistakes.
Please release the footage for the last moments for each sacrificed camera
I think we need a bigger launch pad! No matter how you look at it, what a bad ass display of power! Cant wait for the next one.
You might have to wait a little bit for the next show of incompetence
No flame trench, pure madness
The water table at that launch site is to shallow for a flame trench, that was discussed way before the launch and during the construction of the launch facility
Clearly Musk and his team though that NASA just did it for fun.
@@thedubwhisperer2157 This is what happens when a rich redneck is in charge...
They expected the concrete to hold up based off the static fire data but clearly that didnt work out. This is a pretty major setback
Not a flame issue it’s a force issue. They thought that special type of concrete would withstand the force and they did a test ignition and it was fine. But the force is not the same lighting rockets as it is launching it. They need more steel.
Imagine if it had blown up on the launch pad. 😱
A truly scary thought
I remember saying 33 Mach diamonds from rocket engines producing over 200 tons of down-force each, blasting a concrete floor at full power is going to be destructive.
They're wasting time: why don't they make a HUGE hole right below it and do it like a motorcycle exhaust pipe, painting somewhere a few hundred meters from the launch?! Gotcha?!
You can even barbecue on the other side of the tunnel
@@girottos Yeah, , I was thinking the same thing. It shouldn't really matter if they go below the water table, they know how to dig under the English channel, I'm sure they could figure out how to go a couple hundred yards.
... what did they think was gonna happen? Were they hoping that if they wished hard enough some regular ass concrete would just man up and do what they've needed blast deflectors and water curtains to do for the past half century? Yo Elon I got common sense hire me lol
Well they do want to launch from mars surface at some point as well. So I guess this is a good start to see what challanges they'll have to and/or if they can deal with.
@@rnedisc launching from mars doesn’t involve the booster
The concrete withstood the static fire. Maybe if they didn’t lost 10% of thrust power during the first seconds, the liftoff would have happened early and maybe the launchpad would have survived
They didn't use "regular ass concrete". They used very special super duper concrete which behaved very well during the test firing. The launch was harder on the concrete and they had anticipated some damage but nothing like what actually happened.
You have common sense and that disqualifies you from working under the car salesman and subsidy consumer musk. Only fanboy zealots with zero critical thinking are accepted into the cult... I mean company
There must have been some frustrated engineer who knew the concrete would not hold, tried to warn and delay the start, but was overruled. No way everybody underestimated this??
I wonder how the insurance claims for those cameras and vehicles read?
"...significant damage" is a classic example of masterly understatement. About the only thing I've seen that looked worse was a U-Boat pen in Brest after the Dam Busters dropped a Grand Slam through the roof.
The tank farm came through it with dents but no punctures, but the panels on the base of the launch tower look like something that barely survived the Battle of Jutland.
Amazing footage - really helps put things in perspective and give an appreciation for the degree of damage.
A rocket is a controlled explosion. But SpaceX takes to a whole new level - some would argue, not particularly controlled at all. Flame diverters definitely needed as NASA has known for 50 years.
No you wouldn't call it an explosion, it's a controlled burn! No such thing as a controlled explosion.
It needs to follow a burn rate; an explosion would blow it up at the pad.
Explosion aka big boom FTS is to protect human earth.
Amazing, what a massive launch
tbh.. I never understood why the tank farm was located so close to the launch pad. To me it would be a no brainer to build it way the f*ck away from the thing that frequently sets itself on fire.😂
Because the tanks are empty at launch, they only store the amount of fuel needed to to fill the tanks on the rocket.
@@PromasterHOF The liability is still ridiculous. The damage caused is needless. Just my opinion.
Because they have to pump cryogenic liquids into the rocket {and back, every time there’s a scrub), and the amount lost due to boiloff is directly proportional to the length of the transfer tubes. They waste a lot of liquid just to chill down the tubes before they can even start filling the rocket, where it continues to boil off until liftoff. They already lose several truckloads of propellant even at this distance. It’s a game of risk assessment and compromise.
@@miroslavmilan Awesome! Thanks for the concise explanation. 😁
That's one hell of a powerful rocket
Hell yeah no shit huh darn the FTS. It still can go to orbit😅
I'm sorry about your cameras, guys! And I'm grateful to you for showing the result of 71MN power. SpaceX continues to be the best show provider. Lots of work to be done. Maybe July will see the next attempt. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna watch this video once again! 😃
Unless second rocket already built its not gonna happen until next year
@@giraffefactory2905 I heard they have three more stacked?
@@eriaac They could have a million more stacked. That doesn't mean any of them are going to be launched any time soon, at least not legally. The FAA (which shouldn't have allowed this launch by their own regulations) issued an indefinite grounding order.
But who knows. Maybe the FAA will do another 180 and continue to fail miserably at protecting the interest of the tax payers who expect them to do their jobs.
@@giraffefactory2905 ракета..., Тут нужно перепроектировать и переделывать всю площадку
@@DiahRhiaJones which regulations exactly should've prevented this launch?
Part of me thinks Elon just wanted to see what it would do, stage 0 be damned.
Ya never know - until ya test. He tested .. Now he knows. You got it.
DATS IT!
I mean: there's tooo many things nearby the biggest one going up... they usually don't have much things around even in common launches. And when the big one came there's A MINIVAN just sitting there like they did it in purpose hahahahh
Maybe it was just a show and they didn't plan a real launch, never really.
Богатые ребята одноразовый стартовый стол с инфраструктурой это серьёзная заявка на успех
Talk about scorched earth. Excellent photography. I can't believe you got in there to get this video.
Went to Boca chica while i was visiting south padre island, there was pieces of the launch pad and rubber from the rocket laying everywhere
Sigh, some amateurs trying to launch a rocket without a flame trench. The pros did a better job in the sixties.
You are just here to trigger people 😂
Now that's gonna take a while to clean!!! Can you imagine the amount of power to do such a large mess. :O
Thank you for this video!
Yeah sure, 330,000 lbs of thrust. And that's just Starship, I didn't count Super Heavy which would add to the number
@@PrathamInCloud Super Heavy was what caused all the damage, StarShip's engine would have been lit once it separated. Super Heavy pounded down 16 Million lb-ft of thrust into that pad, it's a wonder the launch tower didn't get blown over :)
Those are signifigant dents in a couple of vertical tanks of the tank farm. However, the dents are in the outer casing and not the pressurisd storage vessels???
Four words leap to mind: What were they thinking?!
GO GO GO! GO!!!
@@mikewallace8087 You're right... that's exactly what they were thinking!
I know look at all those poor endangered species affected ......
Guys this is uncharted territory. Its the most powerful rocket ever built, I don't think anyone thought it would cause so much distruction, they misjudged. I know SpaceX will fix the launch pad and redesign it in a better way. next launch there won't be so much damage or engines being damaged on take off.
Is there any footage from those blown cameras ??
It ca be really interesting
I have seen some of it. It's not as good as one would expect because of 1) fog and 2) lots and lots of dust from the pulverized concrete.
I saw the launch and the 'intended disassembly' I don't know too much about this deal. Are those fuel tanks sitting on the perimeter near that access road?
when will you post the videos from the remote cameras?
How could they be so short-sighted not add a flame diverter. Boggles the mind.
They chose not to use one. Starship is ultimately intended to go to Mars and they won't have a flame diverter there either.
@@JC130676 Also no flame diverter on the moon. Seems the LEM was a good design in that it used the descent stage as a launch platform for the ascent stage, I've never heard of any evidence of any ascent stage being damaged by Moon debris during launch. Hopefully the engineers are thinking about this with more urgency now.
@@JC130676 Seems you forgot that Super Heavy has 33 raptor engines. Starship is merely the upper stage.
@@JC130676 Bud they arent launcbing the booster from anywhere else than earth, and the upper stage has already been tested with minimal damage to concrete. They really messed up thinking a rocket with twice the thrust of saturn v could launch from a lunch stand smaller than whats used for falcon heavy launches
@@JC130676 The flame diverter wouldn't be for Starship, just the booster anyways.
It just shows the sheer power of this rocket. Insane!
Sheer stupidify of space x. this launch platform was dumb from the beggining.
It shows Musk's incompetence
@@albertofernandez2490 What?
What did they think was going to happen with 16 Million pounds of thrust?
Wow that is phenomenal! Thanks for sharing.
Интересно какое было атмосферное давление на момент взлёта в этой зоне?
Атмосферное может и не сильно отличалось, а вот звуковое давление было действительно разрушительное. Тем более как я понял стартовый стол водой не заливали для гашения звуковых волн.
Это как огромный небоскрёб запускать в космос! Невероятная мощь и сила инженерной мысли. Все кто причастен к созданию этого шедевра молодцы 🎉
отличный ответ... мы все братья здесь на добром корабле Земля
интересно что с твоим лицом будет когда ты узнаешь что СССР такое же испытание проводил сверх тяжёлой ракеты 50 лет назад)
до сих пор 50 метровая воронка от падения и части ракеты остались на Байконуре. Даже планировка американского старшипа очень сильно напоминает советский Н-1
@@rekerok Вы думаете Маск зря приезжал в Россию? Он выпросил у русских документацию на лунную ракету. Но та ракета была неудачной. Советские инженеры пришли к выводу, что надёжность ракеты со множеством двигателей очень низкая. Её невозможно безаварийно запустить. Вот и у Маска не получилось. И не получится. Хороших инженеров в США нет.
@@user-bv2jd2ce1t самые казалось бы не реальные и шуточные гипотезы в основном оказываются правдой
@@rekerok ты египтянам напомни что они тысячу лет назад пирамиды построили и посмотри на их лица. Так и СССР наш ракеты испытывал, спасибо ему конечно, но почему мы досих пор как египтяне на верблюдах-калинах ездим
Wow this is crazy i really thought from the start. That why they had problems with the engines. Was because debris smashed up into them. From the launchpad causing damage. I really think they are going to have to rework the hole launchpad.
How are they going to land that thing on Mars if it creates a crater the size of Madison Sq. garden.
well done AS. The tanks need to be moved number 1. Lot of damage here. I would be amazed if they had another launch within 4 months.
I honestly don’t think there will be another launch this year.
@@guvnor1971 They said 1-2 months
I doubted it will be another launch for 2023
@@ernestorassi9418 :(
they have to rethink/rebuild the pad. But,
if anyone can do it in 1-2 months, it's Elon.
There is no way SpaceX can launch again without a flame trench and a water deluge system. Both made out of 316 Stainless Steel. The tank farm needs to be moved 300 meters away from the launch stand. The legs need to be reinforced with thicker metal and a flowing water jacket built inside the legs. SpaceX should have read the 1966 report on launch stand protection.
XPERT alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@sophiejaysstuff4026 Common Sense alert.
You know. Pre-launch it occurred to me that those tanks might be just a liiiiittle to close to the launch pad given the power that vehicle should be able to produce. It's probably to late to move them back a bit but a good barrier to shield them might be in order. Less above ground and more below ground might be order too.
Well then spaceass should hire you to plan their layout. Clearly no one currently working there has a clue. And somehow father Elon and his band of merry idiots are going to put living people on Mars by....what was the last promise....by 2022, 2023, 2024? Just like all the rest of his bullshit lies it will never happen.
Let's see, destroyed the launch pad, tank farm, all the vehicles parked next to the launch pad, vehicles parked 500 meters way at the park (illegally parked) , destroyed a nature preserve, cooked endangered birds nesting, 6 dead engines before it even took off from the pad it destroyed, multiple liquid Oxygen and methane leaks, 5 more dead engines before it reached apogee and spun out of control folding the entire two stages in half AND they couldn't even get the self destruct to work properly. Yeah, but "we learned a lot".
This lying marblemouthed narcissist is a menace to everything he comes near.
Getting into space is all about the details and clearly Spaceass under the direction of cult leader father Elon has its head so far up its ass it defies logic.
@ 6:57 - wow that left tank was seriously fubar'd
Замечательные запуски и их последствия 👏👏👏. Браво 👏👏👏👏
Точно агенты Путина запускают
They were prepared only for the best case scenario.
they learning by mistakes
At 5:28 sounds like 'launch' all over again (ie. the wind noise on the mic!)
What are those big vertical white tanks near launch pad ?
Wow crazy stuff..Next launch will be better.
The rocket is more powerful than I had imagined ... I wonder what kind of material the platform is going to be made of, if concrete can't handle the force.
Or maybe the system of tunnels to relieve the pressure like with other rocket platforms I have seen.
Like Elessar is saying. They probably went very cheap for the construction of the pad. But they also probably miss estimated the loads coming from the engines (blast loads). They most likely thought the concrete would just break and stay there, because it's quite a big failure to have pieces of concrete flying around at high speeds. They should have spent a couple thousand more to have a much better designed pad than now having to replace bunch of gas countainer around.
I'm not familiar with blast loading, but I assume it's more about wave transmission and shapes of the concrete pad and mass.
How is there no fence or anything around the launch site?
ДАаааааа! Илон Маск "бонусом" получил для себя персональный участок марсианской равнины. Всё выжжено. Всё же придётся создавать специальный 'стадион'. Как назывался пусковой стол у Королёва в документах для строителей. Что бы не дай Бог никто не догадался, что они на самом деле строили. Уж не знаю, насколько был оправдан этот подход к секретности, но термин 'стадион' остался как часть истории создания первого пуска Р7. Дорогое удовольствие. Для Р7 пусковой стол стоил столько же как и разработка всего проекта ракетоносителя Р7.
честно говоря как бы и очевидно было что для такой мощи нужна пусковая площадка котлованного типа... впечатляющее зрелище
Он не может позволить себе такую роскошь. Во первых он на всём экономит (ведь его огромное "состояние" на 95% виртуально). А во вторых, на этом заросшем бурьяне болоте ничего капитального строить нельзя (там почти всё природная охраняемая зона). В третьих, если внимательно посмотреть на эту стартовую площадку, то станет понятно - она временная.
Проекты Маска - финансовая афера, чтобы из бюджета максимум денег выкачать!
@@vitalyzvv8691 Думаю, отчасти, это верно. Но кроме финансового вопроса тут не маловажен вопрос тщеславия. Он очень любит внимание и всеобщее внимание. Т.ч. это банальная попытка войти в историю (что, впрочем, ему уже удалось). 🙂
@@vitalyzvv8691 этот аферист запускает фалкон9 чуть не каждую неделю.
though its a huge effort on the part of SpaceX but went hopelessly bad with the launch pad design and configuration... its a huge learning for all space exploring countries... thanks for the closeup of the area... only visionary people/leader can take up such mega projects and kudos to them🙏
Well the visionary didn’t bother to make use of solutions available. Deflectors have been used by large rockets since the 60’s and for a rocket intended to have a 24 hour turnaround destroying the launch pad is going to add unnecessary expense.
Huge waste of money. Musk be learnin sometin.
when one goes boom on the pad they'll be nothing left.
Could you find a way to edit out the wind noise?
Who puts a fuel tank farm right next to a launchpad? What were they thinking?
Just Pure Awesomeness 👓🎓✨🚀🔬🔭 greetings from the UK ❇
0:45 - That is a Clean Pad. like the Renders Show.. Thank you
I guess in reality lighting a rocket of that size is like producing the shockwave of a large bomb downward until it meets resistance of the pad and ground around it sending any weak structures or materials flying from the blast site. Sort of like airburst bombs used in warefare but more concentrated in a smaller area. This video was excellent demonstrating the aftermath of such an amazing amount of power produced by this rocket.
They figured out how to handle this back in the 60's with the Saturn V. Seems like SpaceX has forgotten.
@@SaxPanther or just didn't want to pay for a new pad!
Starship is great ..but bloody hell..it stood upon such low level stand...i mean, how could SX thought, it would absorb all of the force..or did they just do it for fun and fashion!!
Well he did say it would be spectacular whether it launched successfully or not.
These are the same early mistakes made in the late 50s early 60s by the Russian and US space programs. Too powerful,too fast, little thought for back blast and collateral destruction at launch (which consumed several boosters)
There's no reason to make these mistakes in engineering again 60 years on. Since they were building a proper pad (not yet ready) it is obvious they knew this would happen....just had to do it anyway for the hell of it and likely the risk of investors getting tired of the delays.
Yep there are problems with commercial space just like government space.
Can you imagine the destruction on the Moon or Mars with no launch pad at all...just with lifting Starship as one stage. The damage to nearby habitats or labs...not to mention the pristine worlds. Do we really have the right to destroy other planets too.
It's not low at all -- and it is basically a 360 degree flame trench. The only problem was that the concrete underneath couldn't take quite as much punishment as expected... and they already had a fix in the works for that.
@@STho205 Im with you
They did it because, unlike science and NASA, they just thought they knew better.
Well, who's laughing now? Most of America at Elon and his "engineers"
Маск абсолютный делитант во всём. Вывозит за счёт большого количества попыток. Та же самая история, что и с Томасом Эдисоном )
он не дилетант, он мошенник! такое ощущение что они строят к примеру стартовый стол, вообще не опираясь ни на какие расчеты! как и сами "ракеты" таким образом достичь результата у него получится примерно никогда
Жалко камеры и технику😢
@@sligxcz маск оплатит
Whilst I love to cheer on the progress, if I was the FAA I would tell SpaceX they gotta pick up every piece of debris before they get another go. Every. Piece.
I hope they clean it up. Those storage tanks do seem too close to the pad.
The terrain around the launch pad looks like Mars
Mission accomplished 😉
Lets go off shore!
What would not seen in tests before was the "crack of a whip" - effect wich causes enormous pressure waves cracking down from the exhaust after it already took off. This "crack of a whip" effect hitting ground probably comes after 10m in flight and getting stronger till maybe 100m in flight
SpaceX, keep on pushing! You are the only hope for keeping up humanity 💪💪💪
re: " You are the only hope for keeping up humanity"
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Ótimo vídeo. O estrago foi grande. Mas, muita coisa dá pra aproveitar como aqueles tanques cilíndricos próximos à base de lançamento. Tem pedaços por todo lado …
Mesmo assim o foguete 🚀 conseguiu subir bastante antes de ser explodido.
Não é algo simples não!
now they have their moon landscape... right here on earth.
Funny!
this really is an astounding "what where they doing?"ordeal. I love SpaceX so much, but I have to think every engineer in that building had to have known this was going to happen. Who the heck signed off on this?
The failure of the SpaceX launch yesterday can be directly linked to a personal decision that Elon Musk made 3 years ago to not install flame diverters on the Starship launchpad. He overruled his own engineers on this design flaw.
"Who the heck signed off on this?"
Musk. Presumably he's either surrounded by Yes Men, who just told him what he wanted to hear, or he was warned of the consequences and decided to ignore them.
Good to see they have totally trash what was a nature reserve, way to go Elon...
Interesting! As if no City did the Same Thing! 🙄
@@robertweekley5926 Sure, but it was easily preventable, which makes it stupid. Have a smiley day yourself.
really shows the mind blowing power of Starship.
Well, some of those landscape shots look like Mars. Makes sense. 😄Honestly, best aftermath vid I've seen. Looks like back to the drawing board, that didn't go well.
Quite an "Environment Friendly" Launch......
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I don't think people realise how pissed the FAA is with it all ! I can't see a launch from this site for a long long time Licence wise
F the FAA
All those engineers and all that brainpower and NOBODY had the common sense or the foresight to see this coming! That's almost criminal negligence.
I'm Brazilian in Brazil the environmental legislation would never allow a rocket launch causing so much damage to a Coastal area
Barreira do Inferno Launch Center and Alcântara Space Center are not like 5 km distance from protected coral coast? Please explain
@@MrKillerpics Barreira do inferno does not launch large rockets. only sweat probes in rockets up to 9 meters high.
Yeah, you just burn forests for that sweet palm oil gold
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Did the silo's get damaged like that from the launch too?
What would it take for you to mail a piece of that concrete?
Elon should have made the laugh pad better and postpone the launch . Now he will probably have to wait 6 months to get new FAA authorization and it will also likely take at least 6 months to setup / build a proper launch facility with flame divertes, high water pressure cooling…etc . Not sure this « early » launch was a good idea after all. Let’s see what’s the story tells us in a year from now .
Tower still standing, Mount still standing. A success. They will just fill in the hole with more rebar and concrete. Will take a few months.
It's most likely, you will see a Saturn V like water Deluge system to absorb all that rocket plum
Tower damaged, mount damaged, tank farm damaged, surrounding nature damaged, concrete blown to adjacent property, FAA license in danger, avoidable additional costs... Great success... for sure... Maybe a setback of just a few months, but it could have easily been avoided. Elon himself twitted it was a big risk, so if they wanted to clear the pad, they just won the lottery. That's a great feeling for investors that they are playing a lottery.
@@mbukukanyau There is a water sprinkler system but it is not as "splashy" as the Saturn V or Space Shuttle systems. The water jets are fired horizontally from the inside of the top of the launch mount towards a point slightly off center so they don't all impinge in the middle. Instead, there are as many impingement points as there are water jets. SpaceX has released video of a test of that system filled from underneath.
What they will add is a replacement for the concrete surface underneath. It will be two flat metal sheets with channels in between for water cooling.
Nice comment 👍
@Peter Lund Those things are nothing, compare to the Saturn V, Shuttle, SLS systems. The Deluge system is an ocean in less than a minute. Produces rain shortly after launch, it's that much water.
Well , i see no sound suppression system which is highly need for large rockets, even the space shuttle had a water suppression system for the boom of taking off .if you dont use one i bet this is what its like , one big explosion
From watching the Saturn 5 launches as a kid I had always been slept of having so many tanks and buildings so close to the launch pad. This proves me out. This looks like a disaster area. Obviously there needs to be a rethink of this whole launch area.
This is what happens when you ignore decades of research into launch systems, build your storage and tools next to your rocket and blast your way through safety protocols in the name of putting your feet on Mars asap. It's a spectacular rocket, but this isn't the discovery of a new elementary particle. People have done this before and the knowledge exists. Musk calls it "back to first principles" and "fast iteration", I call it "applied millennial engineering". The generation of engineers that proudly ignores everything before their birth and still expects a medal for each failure while reinventing the wheel. There is a reason why people have looked into exhaust jet diversion techniques, all the way back to Von Braun. They messed up real big here. Not so much because of the damages, but more so because they've shown they can't be trusted when left alone. I can imagine authorities will take notice and keep them at short distance next time. Even if this looks bad, had an explosion occurred at ground level, it would have been a much much bigger disaster, with radiating heat causing burns and great damage miles away, equivalent to accidents of high pressure gas pipelines.
Well said! NASA didn't have to blow up the Saturn V on its first flight test. 13 Saturn V launches using 65 F-1 engines and not one failed. But, yes, today everybody gets a participation trophy. I just hope they don't go into the bridge building business.
Why would the wealthiest and supposedly cleverest man in the world launch the most powerful rocket without a flame diverter?
Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
As a professional engineer, there is no playbook for something like starship. Truly minimal documentation on what, if at all, could survive the energy of that booster. My thoughts are, stage 0 survived until the internal rebar heated up enough to expand and cause spalling in the concrete. At that point the energy of the booster basically dismantled any part of the pad that experienced any spalling. At about the 10 second mark after they lit that candle.
There’s plenty of data that Elon himself mentioned. It was called the N1 and it was a terrible rocket.
Question, why wouldnt he do something that big, just for the launch, outta like an In Ground Silo so it like shoots out like a Bullet instead of "free range' thrust?
Merci à Elon Musk et à toute l'équipe Space x courage courage courage et bonne continuation 🏆🏆🏆🚀🚀🚀🚀