Bought the AFusion pro 2 and a year warranty. No matter what no questions asked. I get two free exchanges same day. Brand new in box, absolutely love the premium feel and type C wire. Feels really modern and love how you can change the faceplate easily
@@kortvinyard4413 too each their own. But it does the SAME exact thing as the series 2. And has a built in mute for microphone. Only reason people would get the series 2 is the built in software feature for the thumbsticks for smooth aggressive and so on.
Speaking as an Elite controller 2 owner I can tell you that it malfunctioned after 3 months of use, had it replaced and the next one malfunctioning after 2 months, R1 only works 50% of the time this happened on both, and the left analog was left at a constant steady turn left on the second, meanwhile both my original controllers work absolutely faultless after 4 years of abuse.
I have been using it for a while now and haven't had issues. I speak from my experience and haven't personally felt any drift yet. If I do, I will absolutely make a video on it.
@@hdgrimey lucky been through 2 in a week both broken after 1 hour of use in the same spots og Xbox one controller that I had for 2 years still works flawless hopefully 3rd times the charm
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I play with the elite 2 on PC. Love the feel of it. I use the sticks on full tension and only use 2 of the back paddles for warzone. Havnt found any abnormal stick drift issues like a lot of people mention but i did have one of the rear paddle actuator buttons fail. I returned it within the 1yr warranty period and got a new replacement on the day plus my warranty got extended for 1 more year from the return date. Im in australia so not sure of consumer laws in other countries but i was pretty happy as it costs A$250. One nice thing i like is that as its a microsoft product the software on windows is flawless.
dang same thing happened to me and they replaced it. they have great customer service. sadly tho my controller keeps disconnecting even when plugged straight into my computer. never had the problem on xbox
Running full tension all the time will cause stick drift 2x as fast if not faster. My first one i had i changed the tension and after 2 weeks i had to bring it in for stick drift. Using the tension kills the controller. Ive never used the tension after that each time the controller last longer than when i used the tension full
I've had my razer wolverine tournament edition for at least a year now of heavy use almost daily my stick drift is very minimal. Lowest I can go is 0.02 before it drift ever so slightly. All the extra buttons (4 paddles , 2 extra by the triggers) work perfect. Would highly recommend it to anyone ! I've had elites v1 and v2 they always end up getting heavy stick drift in a couple months. Good luck and game on!
I couldn't believe he could omit the wolverine until I watched his review. He doesn't know much about controllers. It makes sense now. That fusion controller is so cheap I can't even tell you if it's any good. It broke too fast. The elite is good but I love the wolverine.
I have had an Elite series 2 for just over 2 years and have used it nearly every day since I got it. I have 0 issues with it. There's no real noticeable stick drift so far as long as I don't bring the deadzones to the absolute minimum, it works like it's brand new. The only issue I have is that my A button is a little soft and it has basically always been soft. The rest of the face buttons all have that distinguishable click when pressed down and A has always been muddy on mine but the A button is also almost always mapped to a paddle so it is more of a non-issue for me. The amount of customization you get through the app is way more than just button mapping too. Custom sensitivity and acceleration, how much it rumbles, where you want the triggers to register, there's a lot to it and each individual profile you make gets it's own series of customization on top of the button mapping. It's 100% worth the buy but I do have to acknowledge that I seem to be in the luckier group of people who just haven't had any real problems with it. Either that or everyone else treats their controllers absolutely horrendously.
I've had the elite 2 for a while now and I absolutely love it. I don't have stick drift, I put my deadzones to 0 for most games. The controller feels amazing in the hand as well, perfect weight. Battery lasts a long time. No complaints from me at all
That's actually a real good idea. I've just ordered one but find I use the capture button alot on my series x controller. Thanks for this! As I won't use all 4 paddles 👌🏻
As a elite series 2 owner all I can say is that my bumpers weren’t working correctly after 6 months and I’ve seen other people having the same problem so just be aware to replace it if bought
I bought a near mint used Elite 2 about a year ago for $60 CDN (an absolute steal I couldn’t pass up). I was using an og powera fusion (the one with the ugly gold D pad and triggers) before that. This was such a huge upgrade from the fusion and I could not believe how good it felt. I love the weight, circular dpad and rubber grips especially. I have not had any issues with it yet and I do play regularly. I wonder how many people with elite 2 issues are man-children and have been too rough with it. I don’t rage with games (I play to have a good time), and have never dropped or thrown it. My money is not unlimited so I want it to last as long as possible. Great video btw
Assuming that everyone who has some sort of issue with the controller are just "man-children" who rage and don't take care of their stuff is such a dumb statement. Just cus you got a good unit doesn't mean we just smash our shit.
@@agentshadycia258 I haven’t assumed anything. I’m simply wondering how many people have abused their controller. Definitely never made any claims of “everyone who has some sort of issue with the controller are just man-children”. My post isn’t any sort of attack on anyone. I hope you didn’t take it that way.
@@agentshadycia258 I dunno, I've definitely seen man-children raging that way. Especially some of the more poisonous streamers haha You gotta figure it destroys a controller after a while.
This review is quite good. It did answer most of my questions and concerns I did have about the PowerA Fusion Pro and Series 2. The elite controller I will not get because of price. You have (nearly) the same customs on the PowerA as the Series 2 while also having only the magnets (they wear) on the series controller. Also having a custom faceplate would be really cool
Great vid. Just thought I'll watch this because I purchased the Halo Infinite Elite Series 2 controller and I've always played with your basic controller so this gave me insight on what I should now and can do with it
You described the pro fusion as a perfect fit for me. I just bought a series s yesterday and I am struggling not having back buttons like on my PS4 controller. Very good review! Now maybe in the future I'd get the elite but for now, the pro fusion looks like a great fit for me
I hope you have better luck than me. Im not a hardcore gamer. But two Fusions broke in the First year of use. Thats terrible product quality! On gamepad one the A button broke. And on gamepad two the most important aspect of the Fusion, the Back Addon! Because the plastic is so flimsy.
@@wizrdlizrd8805 please do yourself a favor and do not get the four paddle model it’s awful. They’re in a really bad position. The 2 paddle is incredibly ergonomic. I’ve had multiple friends buy this controller and swear by it.
I've been using the Elite 1 since release and treated myself to the Elite 2 for Christmas and have had 0 problems with both. I like the Elite 1 a bit better overall, but I'm currently using the Elite 2 more.
All 5. All 5 of my Elite 2 controllers started showing signs of stick drift within the first 2-3 weeks and were unusable after about a month. I was able to get a little extra time out of the last one by remapping L3 and R3 to a couple of the paddles. It sucks because I have not found another controller that feels so damn good to use.
I'm on my second elite 2 and both had issues with the LB button which starts failing on you until it actually stops working. The first one I've had presented issues on LB, RB and one of the paddles towards the end of its lifespan of 1.5 year. Durability on this controller is ridiculous based on its price. It's an amazing controller, the best one I've ever used. My main games are fps which demands a lot from the LB/RB as I use birth for ads and shoot, but I can imagine other genres might impact other buttons.
@@jdxcoffee Dude, lol I just bought a 6th. (Lessons are hard for me for some reason) Straight from the box. The left joystick is all over the place. And I turned the little tool it comes with into a corkscrew. The gizmo that is supposed to loosen/tighten the tension is completely locked tight on the left side.
Just got the power a fusion pro 2 and yes i would rather have a share button. Good video man 👍. Been using the power a spectra enhanced controller so i know im gonna love this one and its easier to have two pro controllers since i have two Xbox's in my house, a Series S and a Xbox one.
The Elite 2 is the best controller for gaming. From changing tension in driving/shooter games, configuring the controller feel like an Xbox 360, to making or mapping buttons for every single game and making a profile for each new play style makes every time i turn on my Xbox more exciting. The controller also feels very personalized, and with additional parts you can further customize the controller. Wide pads help with driving games, replacement short paddles are less in the way for more rapid taps. The trigger stops are good but i barely use them. Only in fast paced PVP games. Overall if you can manage to get a working controller and treat it right, the Elite 2 will perform very well
He should also not keep the cable inside the case if he is concerned about the drift stick, we can clearly see how the cable will touch the stick when closing the case.
About the share button please take note that the élite controler has remap and shift button that allow you To make any button To task as shift and when shift Is pressed this allows you To change any button on the controler, meaning every button Can play any button+functions such as tune volume launch an app
I had my elite series 2 for 6 months now and it's absolutely worth it , I relocated the melee and sprint buttons to the back that way I don't do damage to the analog sticks cause I heard of people having stick drift problems .
I had an elite for 7 months and the drift was so bad it was not usable. The warranty is only 6 months so it has been a paper weight ever since. I bought the razor for half off on black Friday and it is the best controller in my opinion ever. I love the mechanical feel to the buttons. I have used it daily for over a year and no issues at all.
Had my Elite 2 since day one, never has it given me any problems. It even fell twice, still works like new and no noticeable cosmetic damages. Worth it!
You just got lucky then. I take very good care of my controllers and I've probably have 5-6 Elite controllers at this point. The sticks tend to drift after 3-4 months and the bumpers stop working as well. It's usually one or the other within those 3-4 months.
@@TryingYourLvck I never know what to think when people talk about having issues like that. I imagine someone who spikes their controller everytime they get shot. Any controller will have problems when it gets thrown. The only issue I have had with either elite is the grips peeled off of the first one and it took me a while to get used to charging the series 2 so, I often had to use the series 1 so that the other one could charge. They do charge fast though. 3 hours for a 40 hour charge. I do worry about how long that will last. I was against the built in battery because it will wear out and probably be expensive to fix. I would rather be able to just use my eneloops like I have with every other Xbox controller, but other than that, no complaints
Go get a Power A controller; either the Fusion Pro 2, which has paddles on the back, or get the Fusion Pro 3 which has back buttons. The reason that I love these controllers is simple, individuals get adaptive triggers, they get a choice of back buttons, or back paddles, and the warranty is a year. To add onto the fact that the warranty is a year, they will replace the controller entirely for almost any reason. This means that no matter what it may be, stick drift, broken adapters, etc, you get a new free controller with another years worth of warranty on top of that. (You may have to buy it separately, and GameStop has a good warranty program as well.) This company is genuinely amazing and really hits hard on giving you controllers that last a long time, as well as feel great in the hands if your an xbox controller kind of person. Furthermore they have controllers which are cheaper, but only have 2 back buttons instead of 4, and some may or may not have adaptive triggers. These cheaper ones are anywhere from $32-$45. Where as if you go with the either pro version they run you just around $79-$85 dollars. With the warranty included if you so choose to go through GameStop, you are looking at around $101 buckaroonies. That is still less than half the price, I can not preach to anyone enough the quality, reliability, and performance of these controllers. Much love to those folks over at PowerA for bringing the people what we deserve. You will not regret getting any PowerA controller, Pro edition or not. To add onto that, you can change the face plates as well. Or just take the one you have on off which is held on through magnets and just hydro dip it yourself, then put a clear coat on. (on the pro edition controllers)
Having used all three (the Razer Wolverine as well) I much prefer the Razer version. I like the buttons over paddles, and the programmable RGB lights on the Razer are pretty sick. I have found the Power A controllers tend to get stick drift very quickly. Plus the Razer has another set of buttons called M11,M12 that can be mapped so I don't have to use my thumb to touch the 'A,B,X,Y' buttons.
@@marcosarg1 RGB lights are scientifically proven to make you a better faster more accurate gamer why you think shrouds aim is god tier, rgb lights + shroud gamer coffee = constant hit markers
Hi everyone. I have only seen about 7 seconds of the video and I love your energy bro! I left a like on your video! I'm not writing this to dismantle this video or disrespect it if what I'm about to say in this comment goes against anything I'll see in the rest of this video. I just want to stop people for making the same mistake I did. For people that play Apex or other shooters with 0% Deadzone DO NOT get the Elite 2. I got it and had it replaced immediately because right out of the box there was SERIOUS stick drift even at the tightest right stick setting . I put a work order in and the replacement had the same issue so I just returned it and am waiting for the money currently. I'm not saying this to be toxic or anything, I just want to possibly save someone the month I wasted waiting for the controller and it's replacement just for both to have serious shot affecting such drift. If I can help one person not make the same mistake I did this was more than worth it. I'm not sure about the fusion P2 but the P1 I used was solid for 1¾ before the left stick started malfunctioning which is still very solid for a 40$ controller.
I like the elite because I can program the controller R3 and L3 to the paddles using MS software. I want to avoid putting as tension I can on the sticks . And for BDO I can transfer the space to A and shift to the paddles, works perfectly for BDO. after a year of use the side skin is pealing off , the left joystick does get stuck minor issue for me. I treat my controller with kid gloves
You can do that in about 2 seconds on the power a... not really a selling. Point tbh. Pay over double for a controller for a slightly better feel and being able yo adjust tge tension of the sticks sound like you made a bad choice tbh.
I am a huge Official Xbox controller fan, didn't want to pay Elite price and went Powers Fusion Pro... Don't regret it. I have Profusion and now a 2. Combined cheaper than else series 2! Both have no issues
Love the fusion pro 2 but after a week im starting to see VERY minimal stick drift when I have my deadzone set to 0.07 and my LB seems to need a tiny bit more press on it to register. Keep in mind I have been putting my controller back into the case after every use to keep it pristine but it may just be the xbox controller design that seems to have a curse of stick drift
This seems to be something that people experience everywhere. I think it is something more noticeable to those looking for it too. People who “just play” probably wouldn’t even notice.
I'm still on my first elite 2, I got it when they dropped. I had my first elite series one for years, too. I swear by them, I haven't had any issues. My first elite started to drift after years of use, around the time the elite 2 came out. I have no complaints with the controllers.
Honestly I think that these high end controllers aren’t worth their price when they can develop stick drift in months. I’d much rather use a stock Xbox controller that has a back paddle attachment (as long as it’s quality), and swap it as I wear out controllers. That or a really long warranty on parts for wear and tear. The PS4 back paddles as well as the backplate kits you can get on amazon to me seem so much more worth it when compared to the SCUF/Elite/120$+ controllers. Great video by the way, good comparison.
Great Review. I purchased fusion pro and after 1 hr of playing Madden 21 h2h online, the controller scrolled at play call menu and r2 button stopped responding. Also had Elite 2 and stick drift stick drift stick drift
Elite 2 also, major stick drift after a few months of playing R6 Siege, bought another one same thing after time. Tried the youtube quick fixes but had to keep doing them once a month just to have no drift. I just bought the Fusion pro and hope it lasts longer cause I'm done paying Elite controller prices.
@@bhays71 it's all about the game we play. Madden puts a lot of wear and tear on controllers cause every button is used a lot.. I wish 360 controllers were compatible with all systems. They are making them too fast. I wish I could get a couple months out of one. Few weeks max and controllers need replacing
@@bhays71 sadly it will probably not hold longer. But with the much lower cost its ok. 200 for a faulty produced consumer scam series2 controller. Im done, sure its better, but not for that pricw
I have an elite series 1 and 2 elite series 2. No stick drift. I've had the elite series 1 for 3 years no issues at all my son's actually using it now and it's still fine. One of my elite series 2 had a right bumper sensitivity issue after using for a year or more I fixed it myself. I've used all them daily anywhere from 2 to 6 hours. Best controller I have no complaints. But I baby mine I don't hit them slam them nothing like that.
I had the fusion pro I played with it for a while and took great care of it never dropped it or anything like that and part of the trigger inside the controller just snapped so the controller was completely unusable for what I was playing believe it or not being able to shoot is pretty useful in halo so I later got the series 2 it worked super good I definitely prefer it it feel a lot more well made only problem I had was the weird bumper problem I’ve seen people have so my right bumper didn’t work but It was under a year warranty and luckily I sent it back like a year before the warranty and they emailed me saying they shipped it and I received it the next day
I felt the power a was priced right and really is a great value but preferred the feel of the elite 2. I admit, I don't use them often though,. I really don't like the paddles. I'm bad at them
This is a small thing, but for future videos of this type it would be helpful if you refer to the controllers by their names. In my case, and I assume I'm not the only one that ever does this, I was attempting to listen to the video while doing something else. You always referred to the controller as "this one" or a variation of that. If someone is only listening they have no idea which one "this one" is. No big deal, just a convenience thing for your subscribers I suppose. But it would be good practice in case you ever decide to do sponsored videos.
Hi my friend I'm wrathing you from VENICE ITALY, I'm a " semipro" FIFA player: I used the Elite controller in different tournaments ( the filling is the best). But for my home Xbox x, I prefer to play with the cable ( for bit rate). I'm using the FUSION PRO 2, and telling you the truth: it's not bad; surely It's better than the original one ( I changed every 3 months). The PowerA IS the second controller I fell good ( what I tried). I'm agree with you about the metal and plastic sticks, but looking the price... And it's better than the first Fusion. GREETINGS FROM VENICE, THANKS FOR THE VALUABLE ADVICE YOU GIVE. GOOD JOB 👍
I was honestly skeptical of the Elite 2 and it was a little weird after a year as my Y button had a malfunction but it was easy to get a replacement and haven’t had a problem with it since. In total I had for like 2 years with the replacement
I put in a minimum of 10 hours a week on my controllers My power As have always lasted about a year(common if your a heavy user) they are one of the most reliable controllers on the market....i would recommend them to anyone who puts alot of time on theyre controller and want a "pro" feel....also the extended stick has always felt like just the right amount of height qhere as others have always felt to tall ir to short to me
completely disagree. standard controller is very prone to drift ... like ALL controllers. Still, i guess i’d prefer to spend 1/3 the price to replace the controller when drift sets in. But here’s a better idea - how about these manufacturers start using more robust modules or completely redesign the thumbsticks so drift becomes a thing of the past?
@@q4sbgf9kfgrd6 well I have just ordered a Elite 2. I will give it a shot. Hopefully it's fine. If this one I get is faulty I will exchange it. However if the 2nd one does I'll only use official standard controllers from them on. Fingers crossed it works okay!!
@@ASA_1347 hey man I had a power a fusion pro 1 got it a year ago… just started to have controller issues with the back paddles and I put in a warranty claim on their website they sent me the pro 2 model free of charge and I got to keep the fusion 1
Thanks for the video. Something to keep in mind sometimes people play videos and listen and aren't watching. Which makes it hard to know what you are talking about if you refer to the controller as "this" instead of the name of the controller.
I love my Elite 2, one thing I will say is that I kinda wish the top of the case zipped off. Would make it nicer to charge with it as well as having the piece together with the controller If I need to hot swap them.
@@nazarethproductions7095 that's your opinion. In my opinion, it's great! I've had mine for a year and never had one issue and I can absolutely justify the price.
@@sixmarch it’s not an opinion it’s facts. You got to be an idiot if you think liability and longevity is an opinion. Many reviews stated they don’t last past a year.
I bought an elite series 2 controller and it was broken out of the box... Exchanged it for another, bought the 3 year extended warranty through Microsoft, after 1 year the LB started having issues the LT internal pad had shifted so it was sticking to the stop... I sent it to Microsoft for repair and had it back in a week (they repaired my controller, they did not send me a refurbished unit). Haven't had any problems since. I definitely recommend the 3 year warranty through Microsoft, it's only $20 and guarantees you'll get your money's worth out of it. When the Elite series 3 comes out I'll probably pass this one on to my 12 year old son, so the warranty is money well spent.
I have all versions . The Elite series 2 is a very well built solid controller with unique paddle features and even the tension adjustment on the sticks . However , I barely used it and developed stick drift that I couldn’t dead zone . The Fusion is AMAZING . It is a smidge bigger so takes a little practice . The only BAD thing I found is the paddles are very delicate and susceptible to cracking . Lastly : the warranty process is WAY better thru Amazon !! Had so many issues with elite 1 and 2 . ( send it out and it comes back with a new issue )
It is rad to see that there are believers in these controllers. It seems that pro level controllers need a bit more care because of all the tech slammed into them.
@@jdxcoffee the Series 1 Elite had issues with the RB bumper cracking inside ( easy fix but still) and stick drift The elite 2 is so nice but stick drift I week in bro . My Fusion controller NEVER even the slightest stick drift . I can put my dead zones literally to zero with no problem ( rant over )
@@AMB_REELZ I’ve had the Fusion Pro, which appears to be the same thing without share, for 1.5 years and the main complaint is the trigger stops are awful. They say there’s 3 settings but it’s basically on or off, and on doesn’t reduce the trigger pull nearly as much as the elite 2. Also the friction rings wore out and cut into my sticks. If the PowerA could have triggers like the elite2, it would be the perfect controller.
@@codyfrancis22 How about your back peddles? One already broke on me and I had to get an replacement. The new one is already super lose again. I am mainly looking for 4 back peddles in a pro controller (plus good positioning such as the Fusion has), but the reliability seems poor
The Wolverine Ultimate is designed for Keyboard/Mouse gamers. That's why a lot of console gamers are not comfortable with the back paddles. It's a different layout that's more reminiscent of a WASD grip.
Man I'm so sad. Elite 2 is basically the best controller I ever had, o comfortable and the back pedals are so good. But the qualityis so bad I can't even understand. Already had 2 of then and the bumpers stop working after a couple of months and the facebuttons stop working too to the point I really need to press really hard for it to works. Always used PlayStation controllers and never have any kind of problems , my ds3 and my ds4 still works flawlessly , I just can't understand. No drift , nothing.
I've had the Elite Series 2 for a long time now, and I still have virtually zero stick drift. I don't know what you people do to your controllers but here's a thought... It's $200, treat it like you can't afford to buy another one, even if you can. I have Scuf controllers from my 360 or my Xbox One that are ten years old and still have no stick drift or very little at least.
@@jdxcoffee that’s fine. i bought the wolverine ultimate and it came today. literally after i posted this i bought it so you don’t have to. it is a great controller though.
They are pretty pricey but the power a is a very good controller I have been using those controllers for a while now, and I just recently got an elite and the controller was good but I was running into and issue where it kept turning off, but they both good controllers
You gave the elite a con cause it didn't have a share button. That's because it was created and manufactured shortly after the xbox one x and BEFORE next gen consoles. They haven't updated them even yet. Other than that, solid review comparison. The victrix is a brand new competitor as well.
Well for the first issue I think the case has plenty if features that make up for the thumb stick problem but you could also simply remove them and store them in the pocket
The main 2 reasons I didn't wanna leave the Fusion 2 was b/c of the share button & being able to control the volume, but i found out about the Tuttle beach audio adapter 4 headsets, that can turn a regular headset into a gaming head set. Not only can u change the volume but u can eq headphones & the mic to fit ur style of play....I also can use 2 paddles so i turned the right upper paddle into a share button
Prepare to take the elite controller apart at some point for numerous possible issues that may occur. My most recent one was the LB and RB button no longer being functional, which I had to modify to fix. Other than that, solid controller.
This was so in depth! I learned so much!.... Specifically that I'm not the pro gamer I thought I was lol! I picked up a used fusion pro and I am right where I need to be lol! Subscribed!
I play claw and would try paddles out regardless of price or controller but with that said I have a 4 year old regular controller that I have played countless hours of apex ( main game ) & RL still works and clicks like new and no drift which is surprising to me with that said nice vid .
Thank for the review I choose Elite Series 2 black and white controller😅. Controller mostly sticking because it’s left on the floor or flip upside down just take care of it.
FYI stick drift is a non issue with the elite v2 if you have an Xbox or pc because the dead zone can be adjusted and programmed into any 1 of the 3 profiles and will carry on to any device you connect via Bluetooth as well.
@@SwerveNation yes sir! I would go just a smidge past that so you don’t have to adjust it frequently if the drift area grows. Every analog control has some dead zone to counter this effect. There is never a case where zero deadzone doesn’t have drift. That’s why I believe people complain about drift on the elite v2. They designed it to be very precise and have a low deadzone however that deadzone is so low that it will start to drift more quickly than other controllers.
Since your channels growing heres some feedback Light in the back off A reviewer once said your reviewing the item not the back of your head or wall Focus on the face and item(s) lighting 8:09 camera shake Not a big thing for me I dont care but your un even sleeves or collar(OCD)
Elite 2 is eye wateringly expensive. You can pick up second hand Xbox consoles for that sort of money, if not less. I really want one but unless i was loaded or trying to go pro, I can't justify it.
They are both solid controllers, but if you play a lot... in my experience, plan on replacing them every 12 months or so. Having said that, I'd buy either one of them again.
Had all 3, razer wolverine was given to my wife as i did not like it at all, the elite version 2 went back to argos after a week of use as the x y a b buttons werent registering unless u pressed them really hard, currently using the power a fusion pro 2, and i love it. great feel, remove two of the paddles on the back, mapped to B AND X, (crouch and revive for destiny 2), my honest oppinion, the power A is MUCH MUCH MUCH better value for money over the elite, i couldnt justify the price, sure its nice, nice box etc.. but its heavy, and prone to problems, plus the power A is less than HALF its price and does the same. get the power A or better yet, get 2 and you have a spare if you develop an issue.
Get a mat with a logo, the same dimensions as the top camera so you can see where it will be able to see. as not only a way to promote with a specific camera view, but also to let you jusdge the frame and use it effectivly.
They need to just bring back the 360 controller with a updated dpad. These new controller sticks are too loose. You can tighten the elite sticks a little but price is too much
This!! I used to have a really good shot on any fps shooter with the 360 controller because of tight sticks. Ever since I switched to the Xbox one, it is hard to control my aim because the sticks are so loose. I literally went from a great player to an average player over night with the switch. I just can’t aim with extremely loose sticks 🤷🏼♂️
I've owned the PowerA fusion pro 2 for over a year, paid $60 on Amazon. I have had not mechanical issues, The only issue is that it is a little heavy for a controller.
I can vouch for the sticks on the elite series 2, they won't come off accidentally unless of course you drop it or throw your controller (which why would you mistreat your premium controller) THE ONLY COMPLAINT I HAVE TOWARDS THE ELITE 2 IS BUTTON UNRESPONSIVENESS
Having a fusion pro, I will say i do not like the triggers and bumpers. I wish they had a couple things. 1. I wish they were textured a little different so my fingers wouldn't slide. 2. It would feel better if the bumpers extended just a tad farther out like the default xbox controllers and elite series controllers. 3. The trigger stop is pretty much useless. I really does not change that much at all. I mean you get what you pay for. So cheaper controller, cheaper quality for sure. It is still a decent controller for the price(at least the fusion pro is/I don't have a pro 2). But i will be very excited for when I get an elite series 2.
It is really a great controller for people who just want the added paddles. It does a great job. The elite is just way more intense when it comes to customization
I just exchanged my Elite 2 today. The controller is really good, but I had a feeling it wasn't that durable, so I bought the extended warranty. Sure enough, the right top back button stop working. It lasted about a year, granted, with everyday use. If you have a Micro Center near you, their warranty is reasonable. Two years for 20 bucks with the option to buy another warranty with the new item. I rather pay the 20 bucks than another $180 or even $60 for a basic controller. I could use the basic controller that came with the system, but it probably would have worn out after a year as well too. Funny thing is, I did experience a little drift, but then that went away lol!
@@jdxcoffee, if I remember correctly, Best Buy wanted $30 for one year or something like that, so yeah, Micro Center is the best, from my experience at least. Good video by the way.
elite series 2, with my personal experience, own 2, once had 3, 1st was so bad after a month of having it (brand new from GameStop) i turned it in for my 2nd controller. Which done fine... until RB stopped working, Left Stick Drift and non operational momentarily. My fiance has the 3rd, A button sticks a little. My next controller will not be a Elite Series... for the expense far too many issues Controller is honestly a great feel, but ultimately, i want my money's worth. I shouldnt have to be force to buy Warranties. Its as if they knew they were selling an issue
1) excellent video, thank you for such a detailed breakdown, I've been on the fence about spending the extra $40-50. But after this it definitely seems worth it. I'm going to pickup the Elite 2 2) you look & sound a lot like Michael Biehn, I'm sure you've heard that before. And I'm talking about Aliens & Terminator Michael Biehn.
You forgot to recap at the end. “If you’re looking for a controller that will feel great, look great, have massively well documented issues, and work for only two months, pick up the Xbox Elite Pro 2.”
My Elite 2 Controller is 7 months old and i have still no problem with this controller all buttons function very well and my sticks have no stick drift. I hope Microsoft release a Elite 3 very soon because I like the feeling of the series Controller. Take a series Controller combine it with all features from the Elite 2 and my dream Controller is done.
Bought the AFusion pro 2 and a year warranty. No matter what no questions asked. I get two free exchanges same day. Brand new in box, absolutely love the premium feel and type C wire. Feels really modern and love how you can change the faceplate easily
I just wish I was into these types of controllers
It’s all personal preference brother. Everyone has their type. Keep up the good content!
@@kortvinyard4413 too each their own. But it does the SAME exact thing as the series 2. And has a built in mute for microphone. Only reason people would get the series 2 is the built in software feature for the thumbsticks for smooth aggressive and so on.
Warranty usually lasts like 3 times then you get money back minus warranty cash
I prefer the cable from the original cuz it locks in
Speaking as an Elite controller 2 owner I can tell you that it malfunctioned after 3 months of use, had it replaced and the next one malfunctioning after 2 months, R1 only works 50% of the time this happened on both, and the left analog was left at a constant steady turn left on the second, meanwhile both my original controllers work absolutely faultless after 4 years of abuse.
I have been using it for a while now and haven't had issues. I speak from my experience and haven't personally felt any drift yet. If I do, I will absolutely make a video on it.
I have heard this a bunch myself. If mine does that, I will make a video of it.
ohhhh no mine comes tomorrow but if i don’t like it i can send it back anyways or there is a Problem on it
You acting like everyone’s Xbox elite controller will be like that
Iv had mine for a year now
It works perfectly fine, nothing wrong with it at all
@@hdgrimey lucky been through 2 in a week both broken after 1 hour of use in the same spots og Xbox one controller that I had for 2 years still works flawless hopefully 3rd times the charm
wow man I cant believe how fast your channel is growing its brings a smile to my face because I remember finding your channel when you barley had 1k subs keep up the great work cant wait to see you with 1 million subs. Remember what ever you believe you can achieve.
Thanks man that means so much. I'm just trying to keep my head down and ge the work done!
@@jdxcoffeeyeah keep up the fire 🔥🔥🔥🚒🚒 work
Same! Crazy but not surprising at all. Keep it up
@@ducethe2nd246 yeah not that surprising he works really hard.
@@gmxboxgaming4756 I subbed 2 your channel . It’s nice to see ppl supporting one another and you deserve just as much success dude !
I play with the elite 2 on PC. Love the feel of it. I use the sticks on full tension and only use 2 of the back paddles for warzone. Havnt found any abnormal stick drift issues like a lot of people mention but i did have one of the rear paddle actuator buttons fail. I returned it within the 1yr warranty period and got a new replacement on the day plus my warranty got extended for 1 more year from the return date. Im in australia so not sure of consumer laws in other countries but i was pretty happy as it costs A$250. One nice thing i like is that as its a microsoft product the software on windows is flawless.
It is quite a technological beast
dang same thing happened to me and they replaced it. they have great customer service. sadly tho my controller keeps disconnecting even when plugged straight into my computer. never had the problem on xbox
give it about 6 months...
Nice
I'm too poor to buy a console 🥲
Running full tension all the time will cause stick drift 2x as fast if not faster. My first one i had i changed the tension and after 2 weeks i had to bring it in for stick drift. Using the tension kills the controller. Ive never used the tension after that each time the controller last longer than when i used the tension full
I've had my razer wolverine tournament edition for at least a year now of heavy use almost daily my stick drift is very minimal. Lowest I can go is 0.02 before it drift ever so slightly. All the extra buttons (4 paddles , 2 extra by the triggers) work perfect. Would highly recommend it to anyone ! I've had elites v1 and v2 they always end up getting heavy stick drift in a couple months. Good luck and game on!
Did you try the blow out method for fixing drift?
i had the raiju te edition and i got unplayable stick drift within 2 months and trying to return it to razer was a nightmare
I couldn't believe he could omit the wolverine until I watched his review. He doesn't know much about controllers. It makes sense now. That fusion controller is so cheap I can't even tell you if it's any good. It broke too fast. The elite is good but I love the wolverine.
I have had an Elite series 2 for just over 2 years and have used it nearly every day since I got it. I have 0 issues with it. There's no real noticeable stick drift so far as long as I don't bring the deadzones to the absolute minimum, it works like it's brand new. The only issue I have is that my A button is a little soft and it has basically always been soft. The rest of the face buttons all have that distinguishable click when pressed down and A has always been muddy on mine but the A button is also almost always mapped to a paddle so it is more of a non-issue for me.
The amount of customization you get through the app is way more than just button mapping too. Custom sensitivity and acceleration, how much it rumbles, where you want the triggers to register, there's a lot to it and each individual profile you make gets it's own series of customization on top of the button mapping. It's 100% worth the buy but I do have to acknowledge that I seem to be in the luckier group of people who just haven't had any real problems with it. Either that or everyone else treats their controllers absolutely horrendously.
I've had the elite 2 for a while now and I absolutely love it. I don't have stick drift, I put my deadzones to 0 for most games. The controller feels amazing in the hand as well, perfect weight. Battery lasts a long time. No complaints from me at all
I have the power a controller in this video and I’m getting an elite for my birthday in a few days. I’m so exited
How much does Microsoft pay you?
You can re-map any button on the Elite 2's to act as a Capture button. I use one of my paddles strictly as a capture button.
That is true.
That's actually a real good idea. I've just ordered one but find I use the capture button alot on my series x controller. Thanks for this! As I won't use all 4 paddles 👌🏻
As a elite series 2 owner all I can say is that my bumpers weren’t working correctly after 6 months and I’ve seen other people having the same problem so just be aware to replace it if bought
I have the same issue
Try updating it.helped me
Clean out the dust
I bought a near mint used Elite 2 about a year ago for $60 CDN (an absolute steal I couldn’t pass up). I was using an og powera fusion (the one with the ugly gold D pad and triggers) before that. This was such a huge upgrade from the fusion and I could not believe how good it felt. I love the weight, circular dpad and rubber grips especially. I have not had any issues with it yet and I do play regularly. I wonder how many people with elite 2 issues are man-children and have been too rough with it. I don’t rage with games (I play to have a good time), and have never dropped or thrown it. My money is not unlimited so I want it to last as long as possible.
Great video btw
Assuming that everyone who has some sort of issue with the controller are just "man-children" who rage and don't take care of their stuff is such a dumb statement. Just cus you got a good unit doesn't mean we just smash our shit.
@@agentshadycia258 I haven’t assumed anything. I’m simply wondering how many people have abused their controller. Definitely never made any claims of “everyone who has some sort of issue with the controller are just man-children”.
My post isn’t any sort of attack on anyone. I hope you didn’t take it that way.
@@agentshadycia258 I dunno, I've definitely seen man-children raging that way. Especially some of the more poisonous streamers haha You gotta figure it destroys a controller after a while.
This review is quite good. It did answer most of my questions and concerns I did have about the PowerA Fusion Pro and Series 2. The elite controller I will not get because of price. You have (nearly) the same customs on the PowerA as the Series 2 while also having only the magnets (they wear) on the series controller. Also having a custom faceplate would be really cool
How do you like your power A fusion?
I have the elite 2 and it works great ,love the paddles it has increased my game abilities tremendously.
Great vid. Just thought I'll watch this because I purchased the Halo Infinite Elite Series 2 controller and I've always played with your basic controller so this gave me insight on what I should now and can do with it
There is so much you will be able to do
You described the pro fusion as a perfect fit for me. I just bought a series s yesterday and I am struggling not having back buttons like on my PS4 controller. Very good review! Now maybe in the future I'd get the elite but for now, the pro fusion looks like a great fit for me
I hope you have better luck than me. Im not a hardcore gamer. But two Fusions broke in the First year of use. Thats terrible product quality! On gamepad one the A button broke. And on gamepad two the most important aspect of the Fusion, the Back Addon! Because the plastic is so flimsy.
The wolverine with the 2 paddles (not the four paddle model) is the best controller I’ve ever owned.
I need to check it out
Have you tried the Chroma version with the 4 paddles? I'm curious if they are worth the extra cost over the 2 paddle model.
@@wizrdlizrd8805 please do yourself a favor and do not get the four paddle model it’s awful. They’re in a really bad position. The 2 paddle is incredibly ergonomic. I’ve had multiple friends buy this controller and swear by it.
@@phxntomplanet Thanks for the heads up 👍
@@wizrdlizrd8805 no problem homie! Let me know what you think if you pick one up
I've been using the Elite 1 since release and treated myself to the Elite 2 for Christmas and have had 0 problems with both. I like the Elite 1 a bit better overall, but I'm currently using the Elite 2 more.
All 5. All 5 of my Elite 2 controllers started showing signs of stick drift within the first 2-3 weeks and were unusable after about a month. I was able to get a little extra time out of the last one by remapping L3 and R3 to a couple of the paddles. It sucks because I have not found another controller that feels so damn good to use.
Man that controller seems to have issues
I'm on my second elite 2 and both had issues with the LB button which starts failing on you until it actually stops working. The first one I've had presented issues on LB, RB and one of the paddles towards the end of its lifespan of 1.5 year. Durability on this controller is ridiculous based on its price. It's an amazing controller, the best one I've ever used. My main games are fps which demands a lot from the LB/RB as I use birth for ads and shoot, but I can imagine other genres might impact other buttons.
@@jdxcoffee Dude, lol I just bought a 6th. (Lessons are hard for me for some reason) Straight from the box. The left joystick is all over the place. And I turned the little tool it comes with into a corkscrew. The gizmo that is supposed to loosen/tighten the tension is completely locked tight on the left side.
Stop dropping/throwing them. If you get angry at 12 yo who beat you in CoD Shower Wars and want to throw something use your Nokia 3310 instead.
Mine work fine, I am not so rich to buy many Elite Series 2. I have only one and I take great care of it and It works fine.
Just got the power a fusion pro 2 and yes i would rather have a share button. Good video man 👍. Been using the power a spectra enhanced controller so i know im gonna love this one and its easier to have two pro controllers since i have two Xbox's in my house, a Series S and a Xbox one.
Thanks for sharing man!
You may not HAVE a share button on the series 2, but you can program any button you want (paddles included) to share footage.
The Elite 2 is the best controller for gaming. From changing tension in driving/shooter games, configuring the controller feel like an Xbox 360, to making or mapping buttons for every single game and making a profile for each new play style makes every time i turn on my Xbox more exciting. The controller also feels very personalized, and with additional parts you can further customize the controller. Wide pads help with driving games, replacement short paddles are less in the way for more rapid taps. The trigger stops are good but i barely use them. Only in fast paced PVP games.
Overall if you can manage to get a working controller and treat it right, the Elite 2 will perform very well
No it doesn’t I treated mine like a baby and it started malfunctioning after 2 months
If you want one of the best you need to try a Thrustmaster eSwap X Pro or a SCUF controller, they are SO much better and durable.
Little tip if your worried about the stick drift just take them off and put them in the case while not in use.
He should also not keep the cable inside the case if he is concerned about the drift stick, we can clearly see how the cable will touch the stick when closing the case.
@@Rockmans1989 thank you for mentioning that, that is an excellent point.
That is a smart idea
@@saintcorvic1194 also if u play games like cod try and map buttons so you can avoid pressing the sticks is as much
@@terrencegrant3447 thats another good one.
About the share button please take note that the élite controler has remap and shift button that allow you To make any button To task as shift and when shift Is pressed this allows you To change any button on the controler, meaning every button Can play any button+functions such as tune volume launch an app
I had my elite series 2 for 6 months now and it's absolutely worth it , I relocated the melee and sprint buttons to the back that way I don't do damage to the analog sticks cause I heard of people having stick drift problems .
Thats a excellent idea, it does damage/wear the analog sticks WAY FASTER to use them as a sprint button.
Nono u use like auto sprint and jump
Typically when u melee people u have time to press a it just change position to claw style just to melee then swap back
Autosprint bro if you move the analog stick a lil u walk normal move all the way n autosprint
I took my paddles off, I put the death grip on my controllers and it was a problem lol
I had an elite for 7 months and the drift was so bad it was not usable. The warranty is only 6 months so it has been a paper weight ever since. I bought the razor for half off on black Friday and it is the best controller in my opinion ever. I love the mechanical feel to the buttons. I have used it daily for over a year and no issues at all.
Had my Elite 2 since day one, never has it given me any problems. It even fell twice, still works like new and no noticeable cosmetic damages. Worth it!
Cool man
You just got lucky then. I take very good care of my controllers and I've probably have 5-6 Elite controllers at this point. The sticks tend to drift after 3-4 months and the bumpers stop working as well. It's usually one or the other within those 3-4 months.
@@austinhickerson7311 man idk what to tell you. I still have my first one... I'll sell it to you haha.
@@TryingYourLvck I never know what to think when people talk about having issues like that. I imagine someone who spikes their controller everytime they get shot. Any controller will have problems when it gets thrown. The only issue I have had with either elite is the grips peeled off of the first one and it took me a while to get used to charging the series 2 so, I often had to use the series 1 so that the other one could charge. They do charge fast though. 3 hours for a 40 hour charge. I do worry about how long that will last. I was against the built in battery because it will wear out and probably be expensive to fix. I would rather be able to just use my eneloops like I have with every other Xbox controller, but other than that, no complaints
As someone who owns both of these, I definitely use my Power A controller more. I feel it could benefit very well from hall effect joysticks.
How long have you had it for
You can remove the sticks on the elite series 2 to avoid any issues with them
haha
And they're easy to lose
@@twiztid69666 nah bro, just put them back in the case once you replace them.
Go get a Power A controller; either the Fusion Pro 2, which has paddles on the back, or get the Fusion Pro 3 which has back buttons. The reason that I love these controllers is simple, individuals get adaptive triggers, they get a choice of back buttons, or back paddles, and the warranty is a year. To add onto the fact that the warranty is a year, they will replace the controller entirely for almost any reason. This means that no matter what it may be, stick drift, broken adapters, etc, you get a new free controller with another years worth of warranty on top of that. (You may have to buy it separately, and GameStop has a good warranty program as well.) This company is genuinely amazing and really hits hard on giving you controllers that last a long time, as well as feel great in the hands if your an xbox controller kind of person. Furthermore they have controllers which are cheaper, but only have 2 back buttons instead of 4, and some may or may not have adaptive triggers. These cheaper ones are anywhere from $32-$45. Where as if you go with the either pro version they run you just around $79-$85 dollars. With the warranty included if you so choose to go through GameStop, you are looking at around $101 buckaroonies. That is still less than half the price, I can not preach to anyone enough the quality, reliability, and performance of these controllers. Much love to those folks over at PowerA for bringing the people what we deserve. You will not regret getting any PowerA controller, Pro edition or not. To add onto that, you can change the face plates as well. Or just take the one you have on off which is held on through magnets and just hydro dip it yourself, then put a clear coat on. (on the pro edition controllers)
Having used all three (the Razer Wolverine as well) I much prefer the Razer version. I like the buttons over paddles, and the programmable RGB lights on the Razer are pretty sick. I have found the Power A controllers tend to get stick drift very quickly. Plus the Razer has another set of buttons called M11,M12 that can be mapped so I don't have to use my thumb to touch the 'A,B,X,Y' buttons.
When RGB is the best feature.....
@@marcosarg1 RGB lights are scientifically proven to make you a better faster more accurate gamer why you think shrouds aim is god tier, rgb lights + shroud gamer coffee = constant hit markers
If the reliability wasn’t dogshit I’d prefer the Elite 2… but the reliability is terrible
Sick tunes, I dig the jazz 🤙🏾
Thanks man!!
Hi everyone. I have only seen about 7 seconds of the video and I love your energy bro! I left a like on your video! I'm not writing this to dismantle this video or disrespect it if what I'm about to say in this comment goes against anything I'll see in the rest of this video. I just want to stop people for making the same mistake I did. For people that play Apex or other shooters with 0% Deadzone DO NOT get the Elite 2. I got it and had it replaced immediately because right out of the box there was SERIOUS stick drift even at the tightest right stick setting . I put a work order in and the replacement had the same issue so I just returned it and am waiting for the money currently. I'm not saying this to be toxic or anything, I just want to possibly save someone the month I wasted waiting for the controller and it's replacement just for both to have serious shot affecting such drift. If I can help one person not make the same mistake I did this was more than worth it. I'm not sure about the fusion P2 but the P1 I used was solid for 1¾ before the left stick started malfunctioning which is still very solid for a 40$ controller.
I like the elite because I can program the controller R3 and L3 to the paddles using MS software. I want to avoid putting as tension I can on the sticks . And for BDO I can transfer the space to A and shift to the paddles, works perfectly for BDO. after a year of use the side skin is pealing off , the left joystick does get stuck minor issue for me. I treat my controller with kid gloves
You can do that in about 2 seconds on the power a... not really a selling. Point tbh. Pay over double for a controller for a slightly better feel and being able yo adjust tge tension of the sticks sound like you made a bad choice tbh.
I am a huge Official Xbox controller fan, didn't want to pay Elite price and went Powers Fusion Pro... Don't regret it. I have Profusion and now a 2. Combined cheaper than else series 2! Both have no issues
Love the fusion pro 2 but after a week im starting to see VERY minimal stick drift when I have my deadzone set to 0.07 and my LB seems to need a tiny bit more press on it to register. Keep in mind I have been putting my controller back into the case after every use to keep it pristine but it may just be the xbox controller design that seems to have a curse of stick drift
This seems to be something that people experience everywhere. I think it is something more noticeable to those looking for it too. People who “just play” probably wouldn’t even notice.
its entirely because you have such a low deadzone
I'm still on my first elite 2, I got it when they dropped. I had my first elite series one for years, too. I swear by them, I haven't had any issues. My first elite started to drift after years of use, around the time the elite 2 came out. I have no complaints with the controllers.
Do elite paddels work on the fusion pro as well? I lost my paddels for fusion pro and can’t find replacements.
Honestly I think that these high end controllers aren’t worth their price when they can develop stick drift in months. I’d much rather use a stock Xbox controller that has a back paddle attachment (as long as it’s quality), and swap it as I wear out controllers. That or a really long warranty on parts for wear and tear.
The PS4 back paddles as well as the backplate kits you can get on amazon to me seem so much more worth it when compared to the SCUF/Elite/120$+ controllers.
Great video by the way, good comparison.
Turtle beach came out with a controller that’s the same price as a base Xbox controller but it has paddles integrated.
If they start to break down whats the point!
The domed tall on the fusion pro is literally godsent, takes some time to get used to but when you do you’ll gameplay will improve so much
Great Review. I purchased fusion pro and after 1 hr of playing Madden 21 h2h online, the controller scrolled at play call menu and r2 button stopped responding. Also had Elite 2 and stick drift stick drift stick drift
Elite 2 also, major stick drift after a few months of playing R6 Siege, bought another one same thing after time. Tried the youtube quick fixes but had to keep doing them once a month just to have no drift. I just bought the Fusion pro and hope it lasts longer cause I'm done paying Elite controller prices.
@@bhays71 it's all about the game we play. Madden puts a lot of wear and tear on controllers cause every button is used a lot.. I wish 360 controllers were compatible with all systems. They are making them too fast. I wish I could get a couple months out of one. Few weeks max and controllers need replacing
Right on my dude
@@bhays71 sadly it will probably not hold longer. But with the much lower cost its ok. 200 for a faulty produced consumer scam series2 controller. Im done, sure its better, but not for that pricw
@@bhays71 the elite is guaranteed 1 year isnt it? Why buying another one?
I have an elite series 1 and 2 elite series 2. No stick drift. I've had the elite series 1 for 3 years no issues at all my son's actually using it now and it's still fine. One of my elite series 2 had a right bumper sensitivity issue after using for a year or more I fixed it myself. I've used all them daily anywhere from 2 to 6 hours. Best controller I have no complaints. But I baby mine I don't hit them slam them nothing like that.
I had the fusion pro I played with it for a while and took great care of it never dropped it or anything like that and part of the trigger inside the controller just snapped so the controller was completely unusable for what I was playing believe it or not being able to shoot is pretty useful in halo so I later got the series 2 it worked super good I definitely prefer it it feel a lot more well made only problem I had was the weird bumper problem I’ve seen people have so my right bumper didn’t work but It was under a year warranty and luckily I sent it back like a year before the warranty and they emailed me saying they shipped it and I received it the next day
I bought 2 same thing , such a good controller besides that bs trigger problem
I've tried both and the powera was much better. Esepcially in regards to the thumbsticks which are a hell of a lot more responsive on the powera.
I felt the power a was priced right and really is a great value but preferred the feel of the elite 2. I admit, I don't use them often though,. I really don't like the paddles. I'm bad at them
@@jdxcoffee yeah I prefer buttons on the underside like the turtle beach recon has to the paddles, but I only use 2 paddles not 4 so whatever
This is a small thing, but for future videos of this type it would be helpful if you refer to the controllers by their names. In my case, and I assume I'm not the only one that ever does this, I was attempting to listen to the video while doing something else. You always referred to the controller as "this one" or a variation of that. If someone is only listening they have no idea which one "this one" is. No big deal, just a convenience thing for your subscribers I suppose. But it would be good practice in case you ever decide to do sponsored videos.
Hi my friend I'm wrathing you from VENICE ITALY, I'm a " semipro" FIFA player: I used the Elite controller in different tournaments ( the filling is the best). But for my home Xbox x, I prefer to play with the cable ( for bit rate). I'm using the FUSION PRO 2, and telling you the truth: it's not bad; surely It's better than the original one ( I changed every 3 months). The PowerA IS the second controller I fell good ( what I tried). I'm agree with you about the metal and plastic sticks, but looking the price... And it's better than the first Fusion. GREETINGS FROM VENICE, THANKS FOR THE VALUABLE ADVICE YOU GIVE. GOOD JOB 👍
thanks man
I was honestly skeptical of the Elite 2 and it was a little weird after a year as my Y button had a malfunction but it was easy to get a replacement and haven’t had a problem with it since. In total I had for like 2 years with the replacement
I put in a minimum of 10 hours a week on my controllers My power As have always lasted about a year(common if your a heavy user) they are one of the most reliable controllers on the market....i would recommend them to anyone who puts alot of time on theyre controller and want a "pro" feel....also the extended stick has always felt like just the right amount of height qhere as others have always felt to tall ir to short to me
The Standard controllers always last forever. I feel that they are alot more reliable in my experience.
It seems people are making that a very loud point haha.
completely disagree. standard controller is very prone to drift ... like ALL controllers. Still, i guess i’d prefer to spend 1/3 the price to replace the controller when drift sets in. But here’s a better idea - how about these manufacturers start using more robust modules or completely redesign the thumbsticks so drift becomes a thing of the past?
@@q4sbgf9kfgrd6 well I have just ordered a Elite 2. I will give it a shot. Hopefully it's fine. If this one I get is faulty I will exchange it. However if the 2nd one does I'll only use official standard controllers from them on. Fingers crossed it works okay!!
@@ASA_1347 hey man I had a power a fusion pro 1 got it a year ago… just started to have controller issues with the back paddles and I put in a warranty claim on their website they sent me the pro 2 model free of charge and I got to keep the fusion 1
Thanks for the video. Something to keep in mind sometimes people play videos and listen and aren't watching. Which makes it hard to know what you are talking about if you refer to the controller as "this" instead of the name of the controller.
I love my Elite 2, one thing I will say is that I kinda wish the top of the case zipped off. Would make it nicer to charge with it as well as having the piece together with the controller If I need to hot swap them.
Elite 2 is shit, not reliable and you can’t justify the problems it comes with for the price
@@nazarethproductions7095 that's your opinion. In my opinion, it's great! I've had mine for a year and never had one issue and I can absolutely justify the price.
@@sixmarch it’s not an opinion it’s facts. You got to be an idiot if you think liability and longevity is an opinion. Many reviews stated they don’t last past a year.
@@nazarethproductions7095 SCUF Instinct Pro does? How long you can play with one charge?
I bought an elite series 2 controller and it was broken out of the box... Exchanged it for another, bought the 3 year extended warranty through Microsoft, after 1 year the LB started having issues the LT internal pad had shifted so it was sticking to the stop... I sent it to Microsoft for repair and had it back in a week (they repaired my controller, they did not send me a refurbished unit). Haven't had any problems since. I definitely recommend the 3 year warranty through Microsoft, it's only $20 and guarantees you'll get your money's worth out of it. When the Elite series 3 comes out I'll probably pass this one on to my 12 year old son, so the warranty is money well spent.
I have all versions . The Elite series 2 is a very well built solid controller with unique paddle features and even the tension adjustment on the sticks . However , I barely used it and developed stick drift that I couldn’t dead zone .
The Fusion is AMAZING . It is a smidge bigger so takes a little practice . The only BAD thing I found is the paddles are very delicate and susceptible to cracking . Lastly : the warranty process is WAY better thru Amazon !! Had so many issues with elite 1 and 2 . ( send it out and it comes back with a new issue )
It is rad to see that there are believers in these controllers. It seems that pro level controllers need a bit more care because of all the tech slammed into them.
@@jdxcoffee the Series 1 Elite had issues with the RB bumper cracking inside ( easy fix but still) and stick drift
The elite 2 is so nice but stick drift I week in bro . My Fusion controller NEVER even the slightest stick drift . I can put my dead zones literally to zero with no problem ( rant over )
@@AMB_REELZ I’ve had the Fusion Pro, which appears to be the same thing without share, for 1.5 years and the main complaint is the trigger stops are awful. They say there’s 3 settings but it’s basically on or off, and on doesn’t reduce the trigger pull nearly as much as the elite 2. Also the friction rings wore out and cut into my sticks. If the PowerA could have triggers like the elite2, it would be the perfect controller.
what's the warranty for the fusion pro controller?
@@codyfrancis22 How about your back peddles? One already broke on me and I had to get an replacement. The new one is already super lose again. I am mainly looking for 4 back peddles in a pro controller (plus good positioning such as the Fusion has), but the reliability seems poor
You like the way he flipped that left stick back to center when it got stuck 🤣
Because the top was off
Nice vid dude! Definitely looking forward to watching more! Earned a sub
Thanks man!! Glad to have you on board!!
The Wolverine Ultimate is designed for Keyboard/Mouse gamers. That's why a lot of console gamers are not comfortable with the back paddles. It's a different layout that's more reminiscent of a WASD grip.
You can just program one of the 3 modes on the elite to have the paddles as share, clip, and other stuff
That is true if you want.
only on console btw. doesn't work on windows 10 (unless someone has some kind of software mod)
Can do 4
You can map one of your paddles as a shift button, and re map every button, so technically you could map a share button.
Man I'm so sad. Elite 2 is basically the best controller I ever had, o comfortable and the back pedals are so good. But the qualityis so bad I can't even understand. Already had 2 of then and the bumpers stop working after a couple of months and the facebuttons stop working too to the point I really need to press really hard for it to works. Always used PlayStation controllers and never have any kind of problems , my ds3 and my ds4 still works flawlessly , I just can't understand. No drift , nothing.
Sorry to hear that
I've had the Elite Series 2 for a long time now, and I still have virtually zero stick drift. I don't know what you people do to your controllers but here's a thought... It's $200, treat it like you can't afford to buy another one, even if you can. I have Scuf controllers from my 360 or my Xbox One that are ten years old and still have no stick drift or very little at least.
could you make video on the wolverine ultimate vs powera and or elite 2
I can't make any promises but ill look into getting one
@@jdxcoffee that’s fine. i bought the wolverine ultimate and it came today. literally after i posted this i bought it so you don’t have to. it is a great controller though.
Razer v2 chroma is my favorite, a little pricey but solid feel and good quality
These are so cool. I’ve been wanting an elite for a long time but that price point can be hard to make me just jump in there
They are pretty pricey but the power a is a very good controller I have been using those controllers for a while now, and I just recently got an elite and the controller was good but I was running into and issue where it kept turning off, but they both good controllers
THey are cool but I feel for most people overkill
You gave the elite a con cause it didn't have a share button. That's because it was created and manufactured shortly after the xbox one x and BEFORE next gen consoles. They haven't updated them even yet. Other than that, solid review comparison. The victrix is a brand new competitor as well.
I didn't give it a con. I stated it didnt have one
I've had the fusion pro 2 for like 9 months and it's still like brand new the joystick grip is still 10/10
2 weeks with my elite remote and it’s been the best upgrade 😩🙏🏿
So stoked!
Well for the first issue I think the case has plenty if features that make up for the thumb stick problem but you could also simply remove them and store them in the pocket
Went in to buy an elite 2 and came home with pro 2. Wish me luck.
Thanks for the video.
ive had the fusion pro one for around 2 years and still love it
The main 2 reasons I didn't wanna leave the Fusion 2 was b/c of the share button & being able to control the volume, but i found out about the Tuttle beach audio adapter 4 headsets, that can turn a regular headset into a gaming head set. Not only can u change the volume but u can eq headphones & the mic to fit ur style of play....I also can use 2 paddles so i turned the right upper paddle into a share button
Prepare to take the elite controller apart at some point for numerous possible issues that may occur. My most recent one was the LB and RB button no longer being functional, which I had to modify to fix. Other than that, solid controller.
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This was so in depth! I learned so much!.... Specifically that I'm not the pro gamer I thought I was lol! I picked up a used fusion pro and I am right where I need to be lol!
Subscribed!
I play claw and would try paddles out regardless of price or controller but with that said I have a 4 year old regular controller that I have played countless hours of apex ( main game ) & RL still works and clicks like new and no drift which is surprising to me with that said nice vid .
Bro my fusion pro 2 controller just shorted out on me yesterday 😔
Thank for the review I choose Elite Series 2 black and white controller😅. Controller mostly sticking because it’s left on the floor or flip upside down just take care of it.
FYI stick drift is a non issue with the elite v2 if you have an Xbox or pc because the dead zone can be adjusted and programmed into any 1 of the 3 profiles and will carry on to any device you connect via Bluetooth as well.
Whats the best dead zone setting?
@@SwerveNation whatever you need stop drift. That’s all the dead zone is used for. You want it to be as low as possible without drift.
@@sh4dow2788 so i keep moving it down till i see the stick stop moving on its own on the screen?
@@SwerveNation yes sir! I would go just a smidge past that so you don’t have to adjust it frequently if the drift area grows. Every analog control has some dead zone to counter this effect. There is never a case where zero deadzone doesn’t have drift. That’s why I believe people complain about drift on the elite v2. They designed it to be very precise and have a low deadzone however that deadzone is so low that it will start to drift more quickly than other controllers.
@@sh4dow2788 ok thanks
Nice video man I have both controllers and your video is so relatable
All I want is a well made basic controller for a fair price
I got the fusion 2 pro and it’s so amazing for that price it’s just so good and I think it’s even better than the elite controller
Been waiting for this review
This thing is cool but im not into these types of controllers
Just picked up the Elite 2 brand new for $50 + tax and I love it. Thanks for the video.
Since your channels growing heres some feedback
Light in the back off
A reviewer once said your reviewing the item not the back of your head or wall
Focus on the face and item(s) lighting
8:09 camera shake
Not a big thing for me I dont care but your un even sleeves or collar(OCD)
DUDE. Please do this more. this helps so much
Sick tunes, I dig the jazz 酪
Thanks man!
tried all three & gotta say the base model series X controller is by far my favorite. especially if you get a nice grip skin
Elite 2 is eye wateringly expensive. You can pick up second hand Xbox consoles for that sort of money, if not less. I really want one but unless i was loaded or trying to go pro, I can't justify it.
Some pros dont even use those i and i know that cause people have handcams and some just use regular controllers depends on the game
They are both solid controllers, but if you play a lot... in my experience, plan on replacing them every 12 months or so. Having said that, I'd buy either one of them again.
Had all 3, razer wolverine was given to my wife as i did not like it at all, the elite version 2 went back to argos after a week of use as the x y a b buttons werent registering unless u pressed them really hard, currently using the power a fusion pro 2, and i love it. great feel, remove two of the paddles on the back, mapped to B AND X, (crouch and revive for destiny 2), my honest oppinion, the power A is MUCH MUCH MUCH better value for money over the elite, i couldnt justify the price, sure its nice, nice box etc.. but its heavy, and prone to problems, plus the power A is less than HALF its price and does the same. get the power A or better yet, get 2 and you have a spare if you develop an issue.
I've had my elite 2 for 1yr 1/2 now. No issues held up well even survived a few falls
Get a mat with a logo, the same dimensions as the top camera so you can see where it will be able to see. as not only a way to promote with a specific camera view, but also to let you jusdge the frame and use it effectivly.
Not a exactly a judgment, just an idea that I think might help
They need to just bring back the 360 controller with a updated dpad. These new controller sticks are too loose. You can tighten the elite sticks a little but price is too much
It was so awesome
This!! I used to have a really good shot on any fps shooter with the 360 controller because of tight sticks. Ever since I switched to the Xbox one, it is hard to control my aim because the sticks are so loose. I literally went from a great player to an average player over night with the switch. I just can’t aim with extremely loose sticks 🤷🏼♂️
I've owned the PowerA fusion pro 2 for over a year, paid $60 on Amazon. I have had not mechanical issues, The only issue is that it is a little heavy for a controller.
I can vouch for the sticks on the elite series 2, they won't come off accidentally unless of course you drop it or throw your controller (which why would you mistreat your premium controller) THE ONLY COMPLAINT I HAVE TOWARDS THE ELITE 2 IS BUTTON UNRESPONSIVENESS
How far away is your console?
@@krazydominguez8543 just like 2 feet away,
Interesting. Is it missed inputs or delay
@@jdxcoffee missed inputs you'll seriously have to hit a sweet spot or just use a paddle, considering the paddles haven't gave out on you either.
Thanks for the review. it was informative.
I love PowerA products. Use alot of their stuff for my PS5. Definitely great licensed 3rd party stuff
Having a fusion pro, I will say i do not like the triggers and bumpers. I wish they had a couple things.
1. I wish they were textured a little different so my fingers wouldn't slide.
2. It would feel better if the bumpers extended just a tad farther out like the default xbox controllers and elite series controllers.
3. The trigger stop is pretty much useless. I really does not change that much at all.
I mean you get what you pay for. So cheaper controller, cheaper quality for sure. It is still a decent controller for the price(at least the fusion pro is/I don't have a pro 2).
But i will be very excited for when I get an elite series 2.
It is really a great controller for people who just want the added paddles. It does a great job. The elite is just way more intense when it comes to customization
Be warned, the elite has a fixed polling rate at 125hz so you can’t overclock for better input response.
Also the stick drifts excessively for fast-paced FPS. I’m under warranty and on my 3rd replacement now still drifts
Congrats on getting on trending
Thanks man! I was so surprised!
I just exchanged my Elite 2 today. The controller is really good, but I had a feeling it wasn't that durable, so I bought the extended warranty. Sure enough, the right top back button stop working. It lasted about a year, granted, with everyday use.
If you have a Micro Center near you, their warranty is reasonable. Two years for 20 bucks with the option to buy another warranty with the new item. I rather pay the 20 bucks than another $180 or even $60 for a basic controller. I could use the basic controller that came with the system, but it probably would have worn out after a year as well too.
Funny thing is, I did experience a little drift, but then that went away lol!
That is a great exchange program!
@@jdxcoffee, if I remember correctly, Best Buy wanted $30 for one year or something like that, so yeah, Micro Center is the best, from my experience at least.
Good video by the way.
elite series 2, with my personal experience, own 2, once had 3, 1st was so bad after a month of having it (brand new from GameStop) i turned it in for my 2nd controller. Which done fine... until RB stopped working, Left Stick Drift and non operational momentarily. My fiance has the 3rd, A button sticks a little.
My next controller will not be a Elite Series... for the expense far too many issues
Controller is honestly a great feel, but ultimately, i want my money's worth. I shouldnt have to be force to buy Warranties. Its as if they knew they were selling an issue
The fusion pro is great. Holds up really well and I haven't had an issue with stick drift yet
you can also bind one of the buttons on the elite 2 to make a clip or screenshot
1) excellent video, thank you for such a detailed breakdown, I've been on the fence about spending the extra $40-50. But after this it definitely seems worth it. I'm going to pickup the Elite 2
2) you look & sound a lot like Michael Biehn, I'm sure you've heard that before. And I'm talking about Aliens & Terminator Michael Biehn.
You forgot to recap at the end.
“If you’re looking for a controller that will feel great, look great, have massively well documented issues, and work for only two months, pick up the Xbox Elite Pro 2.”
The price difference makes it crazy that these are even comparable
My Elite 2 Controller is 7 months old and i have still no problem with this controller all buttons function very well and my sticks have no stick drift. I hope Microsoft release a Elite 3 very soon because I like the feeling of the series Controller. Take a series Controller combine it with all features from the Elite 2 and my dream Controller is done.