i got both citlali and mavuika and with a half assed build 68% crit rate 215% crit damage on mailed flower on mauv she just casually deals 750k on melted burst hit and 130k melted charge atk 50k no reaction charge on abyss thats to much power in just one side for me so i just use citlali with neuvi as well cause 500k to 600k burst is enough to kinda make the abyss explode and freeze just neuters those beasts
my em is about 404 cause most of my substat rolled in em as well as i dont hav an attack sand i use em my attack i think is 1566 no buff + 1000 with bennet and another +400 if i use ttds so 2.9k total i hate using ttds though she pushes 852k on burst melt and 150kish on charge melt on that build if i load xilonen with petra and citlali with the natlan support set and ttds but since i only have 1 good natlan support set citlali uses a rainbow set if i ever put her on mauv team
so wheres the natlanese in this first half here? if you're going to argue that she's niche it better not be the artifact set considering you can make the same argument that most anemo characters are niche because they use a monstadtian artifact set
@@craigmorris6156I think what he means is that compare to mavuika best team which needs two 5 stars natlan to her f2p team the drop off in her potential is exponentially larger than that of someone like arleccino. Don't get me wrong her best team is arguably the best team in the game
That makes more sense then, but everyone was given kachina for that reason, and she was good enough alone pre-xilonen to be a support for neuvi c0 to replace zhongli to go in his hypercarry team so it should be fine to slot her in with bennett and kazuha if you really want to make use of it for mavuika. Hopefully theres another non geo or electro 4 star natlan character though, ororons a bit finnicky with the natlan support set and not everyone has him
@@craigmorris6156 I've tested kachina and she doesn't work as consistently as xilonen does and also the drop off in buffing mavuika is overwhelming, she's honestly only viable because of the cinder city set. Honestly your best bet for f2p is mavuika and ororon she can burst every rotation. So yeah I agree on that part.
You don't need Diona in a second team, you can use Bennett. Wait 1 second b4 ulting with Mav, wait 1 sec after the ult, then do 4 donuts, jump, another 4 donuts. Far more damage if you already build enough EM on Mav and don't need Diona for that.
I played mavuika with mona against furina.... and its realy strong. U have a big nuke with a very big vape(my mona is c1) and u can hit one big vape and another normal vape. My mavuika did the same ampunt of dmg with both furina and mona.
that papila is really annoying, it said "natlanese type attack will break the shield faster" meanwhile mavuika xilonen kachina ororon cant do much about that, still take time, and even fischl c6 is faster than them all XD so different with fontaine specialy enemy pneuma osia, every char (corret type) can break the restriction easily.
Yeah, the boss favors multi-hit chars like Fischl or Venti which is weird considering most Natlan chars do big but slow dmg numbers. The only exception is Kinich who weaves a lot of double shots in-between his big hits and his burning teams shred the Papilla's shield faster.
@ If I were you id use wgs and use em sands for more em Coz mailed flower looks out of place and wgs look ok But apart from appearance id still use wgs for its atk
@@r584v everyone were saying mailed flower is the best f2p weapon and wolf's gravestone performs a bit better than it(but i have to look for em sub stats too lmao)
Hello i have a question. I play mavuika Bennett rosaria with instructor and xilonen. I do above 600k damage. How much will it increase if i get citlali and ttds?
Ohh so my problem for not melting was not waiting lol thanks for this. Would Rosaria alone suffice? I use Mavuika with Bennett instead of Diona or do I need Diona for consistent Cryo application?
just tested this way. For first 3 spins after burst u can have stable melt. After this u can just start another rotation. But i prefer to play 2 cryo diona/rosa bcuz of c6 diona 200 em
Does the premium team Neuvillette, Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen is still better than the team of Neuvillette, Furina, Citlali using the Cinder set and Xilonen using Archaic Petra set?
Yes Xilonen is much better for Neuvillette team compare to Citlali cause she bring more buff and more heal to stack fanfare from Furina faster. While Citlali is much better is Mavuika team cause her kit are all about melt reaction not freeze.
@@4..x I know. But due to her building in EM make her much better in melt, not only that she also doesn't shreds as much as Xilonen in her kits, most of her dmg increase to DPS are from Reaction. So i must say she is aiming for Melt team to begin with (Sheilder is much neeeded in Melt than Freeze), her being worked with hydro is just cherry on top.
Xilonen on cinder city and Citlali on Instructor. Rotation is: Bennet E, Xilonen E, Bennet Q, Citlali EQ, Mavuika Q, wait a second for cryo app, 4CA hits, jump, 4CA, jump. All hits should melt
@@JustCoeg696, instructor gives 120 em to the carry and Citlali has a stronger shield. Not to mention petra is annoying to work with on some enemies. Regardless, rotation is the same no matter the sets used.
She does, Mavuika is just more frontloaded in her best team tho Mavuika does slightly more, the benefit of Mavuika is that she isn’t tied down by being a main dps and can be used as a support aswell
Mavuika's damage is frontloaded into her Burst, way more than even Arlecchino's. Mavuika's CAs in total can deal the same damage as her Melted Burst, provided that she Melts/Vapes 4-5 hits but some people may not be able to do that consistently or don't know how to (you need to Jump Cancel after her 2nd Melted CA to wait for Citlali to reapply Cryo). Arlecchino isn't tied by DPS windows and has easier combos, in exchange for having a riskier playstyle - though that risky playstyle is mitigated by having dash cancels be part of her optimal combo which allows her to constantly dodge and reposition. Mavuika is better in scenarios where you want an enemy _dead_ the moment a damage window is open, though I feel that Arlecchino will age better as new bosses get released since she has more flexible rotations and teams. She's not restricted by buff uptimes as much as Mavuika, which allows you to adjust strategies against enemies with annoying damage windows like the Wenut and Ruin Serpent or enemies that like to run around like the Maguu Kenki, but Mavuika will be better against enemies that hits hard and has tighter damage windows like Coppelius/Coppelia since she'll be able to face-tank with her interruption resist and all that healing on her usual Xilonen + Bennett + Citlali Melt team.
That's only true if you're someone who's unaware of the concept of ICD. Every Pyro character besides Xiangling can only apply Pyro every 2.5s/3 hits on each of their NA, CA, Skill and Burst. Everyone and their grandmother with minimum knowledge on how ICDs work have been consistently Melting her Burst and 4-5 Charged Attacks with the Mailed Flower and only Citlali as the Cryo off-fielder I assume you think she can only Melt with Ayaka and Venti because their Burst hits fast, when in reality they only apply Cryo or any other element every 3 hits - which is a common belief amongst players who don't know how elemental application works in this game. Their off-field Cryo application is too short for Mavuika to Melt her Burst and 4-5 Charged Attacks on (Ayaka has 4s and Venti has 8s), Citlali performing a Normal Attack after her Skill + Burst is enough for Mavuika to start Melting provided that you're not too braindead and are familiar with the concept of not blindly holding the CA button. This comment is a prime example of trying to act smart only to ends up showing people how blatantly uninformed you are.
@@youraverageguy4930 =]] when I talk about this you should know I understand about ICD and anything in this game, so if you dont wanna see you can go away.
Also Benny pyro aura o. His burst is so strong that sometimes messes up the cryo app from diona and the other cryo. Needs a specific timing for the rotation
Not neuv getting another best team in natlan 💀
not his best team but third best(this specific team cuz xilonen+citlali is second), xilonen+kazuha is still better for him+furina
@marco_polo9469 correct that is what meant but each update he gets new teammate 😭
@@AH_125 true 😂
With C2 furina and C2 kazuha.
Same with mavuika citlali u need to wait a little before ur spinning.
And make sure before u burst is affected by cryo
It says that in the video
i got both citlali and mavuika and with a half assed build 68% crit rate 215% crit damage on mailed flower on mauv
she just casually deals 750k on melted burst hit and 130k melted charge atk 50k no reaction charge on abyss
thats to much power in just one side for me
so i just use citlali with neuvi as well cause 500k to 600k burst is enough to kinda make the abyss explode and freeze just neuters those beasts
68% crit rate after Obsidian Codex buff? So the original crit rate is 28%?
yep
@@spheroboom7299 what's your Mavuika's ATK and EM after all the buffs when the melt happens?
my em is about 404 cause most of my substat rolled in em as well as i dont hav an attack sand i use em
my attack i think is 1566 no buff + 1000 with bennet and another +400 if i use ttds so 2.9k total i hate using ttds though
she pushes 852k on burst melt and 150kish on charge melt on that build if i load xilonen with petra and citlali with the natlan support set and ttds
but since i only have 1 good natlan support set citlali uses a rainbow set if i ever put her on mauv team
She's strong yet so niche with Natlanese requirement to max out her potential
so wheres the natlanese in this first half here? if you're going to argue that she's niche it better not be the artifact set considering you can make the same argument that most anemo characters are niche because they use a monstadtian artifact set
@@craigmorris6156 I'm talking about Mavuika
@@craigmorris6156I think what he means is that compare to mavuika best team which needs two 5 stars natlan to her f2p team the drop off in her potential is exponentially larger than that of someone like arleccino. Don't get me wrong her best team is arguably the best team in the game
That makes more sense then, but everyone was given kachina for that reason, and she was good enough alone pre-xilonen to be a support for neuvi c0 to replace zhongli to go in his hypercarry team so it should be fine to slot her in with bennett and kazuha if you really want to make use of it for mavuika. Hopefully theres another non geo or electro 4 star natlan character though, ororons a bit finnicky with the natlan support set and not everyone has him
@@craigmorris6156 I've tested kachina and she doesn't work as consistently as xilonen does and also the drop off in buffing mavuika is overwhelming, she's honestly only viable because of the cinder city set. Honestly your best bet for f2p is mavuika and ororon she can burst every rotation. So yeah I agree on that part.
ay i really like how you add some interact in the vid to gave us some tips
You don't need Diona in a second team, you can use Bennett. Wait 1 second b4 ulting with Mav, wait 1 sec after the ult, then do 4 donuts, jump, another 4 donuts.
Far more damage if you already build enough EM on Mav and don't need Diona for that.
No bow for 12-3 chicken 😭
I played mavuika with mona against furina.... and its realy strong. U have a big nuke with a very big vape(my mona is c1) and u can hit one big vape and another normal vape. My mavuika did the same ampunt of dmg with both furina and mona.
that papila is really annoying, it said "natlanese type attack will break the shield faster"
meanwhile mavuika xilonen kachina ororon cant do much about that, still take time, and even fischl c6 is faster than them all XD
so different with fontaine specialy enemy pneuma osia, every char (corret type) can break the restriction easily.
Yeah, that boss is really annoying. Even Mavuika + Citlali together can't break the shield depending on the team
Yeah, the boss favors multi-hit chars like Fischl or Venti which is weird considering most Natlan chars do big but slow dmg numbers.
The only exception is Kinich who weaves a lot of double shots in-between his big hits and his burning teams shred the Papilla's shield faster.
Mauvika don't do melt consistently with citlali after burst
Use a Normal Attack right after using her Skill + Burst
Thank god that i can still use Mavuika with wolves gravestone because I lost on her weapon. Btw, is wolves gravestone a lot worse than her signature?
Wgs performs 82 percent of her signature
Not bad if you ask me
@ well, that’s not that bad, thanks a lot!!
Is wgs better or the mailed flower better?(or does it depend on the em?)
@ If I were you id use wgs and use em sands for more em
Coz mailed flower looks out of place and wgs look ok
But apart from appearance id still use wgs for its atk
@@r584v everyone were saying mailed flower is the best f2p weapon and wolf's gravestone performs a bit better than it(but i have to look for em sub stats too lmao)
Hello i have a question. I play mavuika Bennett rosaria with instructor and xilonen. I do above 600k damage. How much will it increase if i get citlali and ttds?
Any team suggestion with chasca and mavuika ???
Chasca Mavuika Bennett Ororon, or a Cryo/Hydro instead of Bennett for vape or melt (idk which dmg is greater; Bennett's buff or reaction)
I have tested both Mavuika and Bennett in their buffing capability on my Chasca. Bennett is still better in buffing Chasca.
Ohh so my problem for not melting was not waiting lol thanks for this. Would Rosaria alone suffice? I use Mavuika with Bennett instead of Diona or do I need Diona for consistent Cryo application?
I have the same question, did you get an answer?
If you don't use Mavuika e at the start of rotation, i think rosaria should be enough. It's not as consistent as vape, quite finicky.
just tested this way. For first 3 spins after burst u can have stable melt. After this u can just start another rotation. But i prefer to play 2 cryo diona/rosa bcuz of c6 diona 200 em
2 cryo needed, even ganyu or ayaka is not enough
Navuletto savage 329 daaammn
Oh i see, a kazuha melt team
Does the premium team Neuvillette, Furina, Kazuha, Xilonen is still better than the team of Neuvillette, Furina, Citlali using the Cinder set and Xilonen using Archaic Petra set?
Yes Xilonen is much better for Neuvillette team compare to Citlali cause she bring more buff and more heal to stack fanfare from Furina faster. While Citlali is much better is Mavuika team cause her kit are all about melt reaction not freeze.
@@user-ft1ru8jv1zshe still shreds hydro res just to let u know lol
her scaling of em doesn’t mean she is only for melt teams
@@4..x I know. But due to her building in EM make her much better in melt, not only that she also doesn't shreds as much as Xilonen in her kits, most of her dmg increase to DPS are from Reaction. So i must say she is aiming for Melt team to begin with (Sheilder is much neeeded in Melt than Freeze), her being worked with hydro is just cherry on top.
Hmm, since we can't freeze bosses, does that mean Citlali res shred doesn't proc?
Freeze reaction still happen
The boss just don't get frozen
Is citlali shield enough for c0 nevulette
If u can freeze everytime then it's good for small enemies like the crocs but for mobile bosses it's not
Where's Mavuika Kinich?
Mauvika , xilonen , Bennett c6 , citlali here which artifact set should I give to citalali with sac fragment ???
You'd probably be better running cinder city on citlali and Petra on xilonen
@sakuramiracles ok thanks
Xilonen on cinder city and Citlali on Instructor. Rotation is: Bennet E, Xilonen E, Bennet Q, Citlali EQ, Mavuika Q, wait a second for cryo app, 4CA hits, jump, 4CA, jump. All hits should melt
@@yoursteban3713not really i think the person opinion above you is better , since using 4* artifacts is basicly lack of comfortibilty
@@JustCoeg696, instructor gives 120 em to the carry and Citlali has a stronger shield. Not to mention petra is annoying to work with on some enemies. Regardless, rotation is the same no matter the sets used.
Neuvillete c1 now pretty much not needed
why ur maveka not bring with bennett
question does mavuika generate pyro particles?
Yes; Five particles upon cast
Whats ur dragon build dude😢
Dont know i think C0 father does nore dmg then her...just my opinion
She does, Mavuika is just more frontloaded in her best team tho Mavuika does slightly more, the benefit of Mavuika is that she isn’t tied down by being a main dps and can be used as a support aswell
Mavuika's damage is frontloaded into her Burst, way more than even Arlecchino's. Mavuika's CAs in total can deal the same damage as her Melted Burst, provided that she Melts/Vapes 4-5 hits but some people may not be able to do that consistently or don't know how to (you need to Jump Cancel after her 2nd Melted CA to wait for Citlali to reapply Cryo). Arlecchino isn't tied by DPS windows and has easier combos, in exchange for having a riskier playstyle - though that risky playstyle is mitigated by having dash cancels be part of her optimal combo which allows her to constantly dodge and reposition.
Mavuika is better in scenarios where you want an enemy _dead_ the moment a damage window is open, though I feel that Arlecchino will age better as new bosses get released since she has more flexible rotations and teams. She's not restricted by buff uptimes as much as Mavuika, which allows you to adjust strategies against enemies with annoying damage windows like the Wenut and Ruin Serpent or enemies that like to run around like the Maguu Kenki, but Mavuika will be better against enemies that hits hard and has tighter damage windows like Coppelius/Coppelia since she'll be able to face-tank with her interruption resist and all that healing on her usual Xilonen + Bennett + Citlali Melt team.
U wasted a bit of a time in mavuika comp, ik u r getting used to it but it could've been quicker
Change ur mav circlet to cd bro
Melt team only work with ayaka or venti support, lol
That's only true if you're someone who's unaware of the concept of ICD. Every Pyro character besides Xiangling can only apply Pyro every 2.5s/3 hits on each of their NA, CA, Skill and Burst. Everyone and their grandmother with minimum knowledge on how ICDs work have been consistently Melting her Burst and 4-5 Charged Attacks with the Mailed Flower and only Citlali as the Cryo off-fielder
I assume you think she can only Melt with Ayaka and Venti because their Burst hits fast, when in reality they only apply Cryo or any other element every 3 hits - which is a common belief amongst players who don't know how elemental application works in this game. Their off-field Cryo application is too short for Mavuika to Melt her Burst and 4-5 Charged Attacks on (Ayaka has 4s and Venti has 8s), Citlali performing a Normal Attack after her Skill + Burst is enough for Mavuika to start Melting provided that you're not too braindead and are familiar with the concept of not blindly holding the CA button.
This comment is a prime example of trying to act smart only to ends up showing people how blatantly uninformed you are.
@@youraverageguy4930 =]] when I talk about this you should know I understand about ICD and anything in this game, so if you dont wanna see you can go away.
Can i use bennet instead of xilonen
No. You need the nightsoul points from xilonen to trigger mavuikas burst. You could use pyro mc, kachina, ororon…
can.. i surpas mavuika with triple cryo wothout xilonen and bennet… make sure your diona is 4 piece of nobless to increase mavuika’s attack
@@thirtykeynightsoul enough without xiilonen
you can but the damage would be lower. still fine though
Also Benny pyro aura o. His burst is so strong that sometimes messes up the cryo app from diona and the other cryo. Needs a specific timing for the rotation
can you make a melt Arle pls?
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How cope is trying this team with c0r1 Neuvillette