Whatever gives her better control over her work & regulating her community. I know streamers complain a lot about the lack of support tools on YT. Mod tools are super super important (baning bad chatters is good for everyone). I switched to watching twitch streams and yeah ads are annoying, but i pretty much just pay for my favorite streamer and occasionally catch gift subs. Its easier to watch people your not subbed to not-live bc then you dont miss anything when ads play and you can skip/rewind. What i really like on twitch tho is hoping POV to see the same events from a different streamer (i just run back to my streamer when ads get too much)
yt mod tools are waaay better than twitch. I moved away from twitch bc limited options and don't want to give full control to a mod who can change anything including payment address. Yt can change settings on ai mod, only verified ppl, 1 account per phone, shadow ban, ban a country, save filters etc etc. Also chanters are based off streamer I can name many streamers who are very positive on both platforms bc streamer, mods, etc gets rid of it fast unless ya. Ppl are now making more money multi streaming now way more in fact. It's about $$$$ not community nor mod tools etc. Ask your parents what's twitch? then ask yt. More and more know yt and more streamers are now on yt live etc with way more viewers bc yt is worldwide. Look at the asia streamers on Yt hahaha. Soo many have crazy amount of views.
i just hate how twitch doesn't let us control when ads happen anymore. like every 30 minutes I get a little notification that says an ad is about to happen. I'm just like I can't stop this. either subscribe or just suffer through the ads. i can snooze it but it doesn't stop it after 3 times and im just like 😓
as someone who never has the time to sit down and watch a livestream i will always go to youtube for vods. regardless where she goes as long as the vods are on youtube im not complaining lol
The culture is dumb. There is no difference except the quality is better on UA-cam, and you can pause and rewind a live stream. You can't do that on Twitch. If you're a lurker only, UA-cam is the better choice. Plus, UA-cam has fewer ads
There is more differences than that when you look at it from a Streamer side. Like the whole knocking and collab stream features. Too many people are only looking at it from viewer side when they think about the differences but she's not a viewer. She's a Streamer and streaming is just easier on Twitch because of the differences, primarily the streaming tools each platform offers.
@@Joy_49 This. There are countries who get no ads at all lol. People be too dvmb to think that there are ways around the ad issue and just give up. If these people are really her fans, a platform switch won't stop them from watching her 🤷♂
there are tutorials/guides that with an adblock will block twitch ads, just google how to block twitch ads with ublock origin, if you can't figure it out at that point you're just too broke to be stupid
@@zm6rnachrnau nah Its just difficult to do with my lag and stuff. Also I don't idolize streamers or go out my way for them because no matter how many streams you watch, you don't truly know them. If being a "true fan" means going out your way to support them with no convenience to you, then I choose to focus on my life lmao. Please watch streams/content for your entertainment, not to prove your a "TRUe FaN"
I'm canceling my subscriptions on twitch and just going to get turbo so I don't get ads. The only issue is that I don't get to be part of sub chat only mode or get emotes BUT it's not a big problem for me since I avoid chatting anyway because I get triggered by the flamers. A solution for Rae is to do what leslie does. She can multistream and ignore YT chat. Leslie has her music streaming on a different audio channel so YT stream and vods don't get demonetized they just won't be able to hear the music. Multistream, she can keep her YT viewers and still have her .99 cent subs going.
I am actually surprised that the streamers that moved back to Twitch are against the idea of multi-streaming. Like why not? It doesn't seem like such a bad idea. And it doesn't seem like it would be a hassle to set up because Leslie is doing it.
@88CDawg agreed. In Ray's case she didn't want to split her community up and she didn't want to have to read both twitch and YT's chats and it does kind of alienate YT viewers/chatters
@@VROCSone But that is a crazy thing to say because it's not really splitting her community up when they can choose where to watch her. The chatters can choose Twitch and the people who don't care at all about chatting can choose UA-cam. You also don't have to have both chats up. Leslie only has Twitch's chat open and closes UA-cam's I am really having a hard time seeing a disadvantage to multi-streaming.
@88CDawg i agree with you. I'm all for it. It's just that rae doesn't have it in her to juggle two chats, but she wants to appease everyone by including them in chat. You're right the people who don't care to chat will/can choose YT but there's people who out right just don't want to use twitch for all sorts of reasons but I feel like those people are far fewer than they seem. They're just louder than most of us. It's a one guy situation, and rae just wants to appease everyone.
@@88CDawgI totally agree! Ludwig’s logic against this was that bc twitch is organized by most viewers in a category, it’s more advantageous for the streamer to keep everyone in one spot on twitch to stay at the top of that category. I can understand that perspective for sure, but I also think that the amount of people who would make the switch from UA-cam to twitch isn’t enough to keep your numbers That high on twitch, but obv idk the stats or percentages and am biased towards YT lol
Twitch is killing their own platform with these absurd ad reels. Twitch has never been profitable overall, but they fell into the classic company greed where they act like they need to do this while filling up the fat paychecks of the higher ups. A lot of the people that helped build twitch up are probably gone now as well. I feel like UA-cam could literally end twitch right now by copying the few good things that set them apart (emotes, discoverability, etc.) but they aren't interested it seems.
Crazy how UA-cam can copy TikTok with shorts, but won’t copy some features of Twitch to retain popular streamers. They could absolutely body Twitch if they prioritized it.
Why do they say it like they are experimenting if they are just going back to what they used to do before? Wouldn't multistreaming be the new thing to experiment?
I loved the community on UA-cam for her, i loved she truly seemed to read like almost all comments. On twitch it wont be even close to that and 10 times more toxic with chat hoppers. Its great she has another source of income again but as a vod watcher i loved youtube and i dont use twitch :/
The one benefit Twitch has over UA-cam are mod tools, yes chat hoppers are annoying but with enough mods, you can ban em all. An example of being able to supervise massive fast-moving chats is QTCinderella's Streamer Awards - she hired more mods to take care of the influx of toxicity in her chat, I believe Rae will probably do the same. UA-cam's live video having the ability to rewind/forward streams make it better than Twitch (along with not having the intrusive ads that Twitch has). So long as her team uploads her Twitch vods to UA-cam, then her streams will be somewhat accessible to her UA-cam only viewers.
I feel like yall have never watched a twitch stream in your life if that's your take. Twitch has better and superior mod tools for streamers compared to YT's archaic mod system. In YT, toxic messages will still appear even if the mods deleted it already bc of the chat delay. This has been talked about publicly by Rae's and Sykkuno's mods who has complained that YT chat is just straight up a s s. In Twitch, you can community perma ban chatters. If all the Roomies streamers decide to do it, they can ban one chatter to all of their channels if that chatter is toxic to other streamers who's part of the Roomies. There's even a ban that you can straight up prevent the viewer acct from watching the stream and you can't chat too. So for yall to say twitch is full of toxic chat hoppers.... yall are outing yourselves to have never watched twitch recently.🙄
I love the youtube community. Twitch for me is just to toxic. But i think rae is feeling left out from her friends. They are enjoying there.. sucks for us youtube watchers but at the end of the day its about her feelings and mental health. I will surely miss her. She is the only streamer i watch for almost 5 years now. It hurts not to see her again live but always be happy for her to choose herself and her happiness.
I am with you, I absolutely hate Twitch. Just in general, before Rae said she’d go back. To me, there is absolutely nothing, zero, that redeems Twitch; I don’t understand why people love it so much.
@stormydesert ya I tried doing twitch and just could not get into it there. I'm happy she's planning to still do vods on UA-cam tho so I don't need to settle for twitch. Happy that she can choose whatever platform she wants but sad cuz twitch is kind of inconvenient for me
@@jamaalgaylord5029 yeah, I’m happy for Rae because Twitch seems to make her happier; but personally, can’t stand Twitch. I’m gonna settle for the vods as well. It is what it is.
@@stormydesert People will always say the chat experience but honestly, I don't think that's a great argument anymore especially if you're watching a streamer that plays ads. If you have to deal with ads, the chat experience isn't worth it IMO But I am like you, I hate Twitch and will never go there and instead just settle for VODs
@ To that I respond what chat experience?! I’ve had better technical & community experience on TikTok chat. Some of those cult fans on Twitch are bullies and I can’t stand the parasocialness. And “chat” seems to be the only reasoning on why they like Twitch better, which I agree, isn’t a solid argument anymore.
I dislike Twitch, as a viewer, UA-cam is superior. Will I follow Rae to to Twitch if she goes and stays? I honestly don’t know. I’ve been not only subscribed, but a channel member for at least 4 years. My 4 years badge is about to be meaningless, and that sucks. 😅 I do understand that Rae has spent time considering these things. She had a lot more information than I do and she’s making an educated decision based on her experiences and knowledge of what’s to come. I can’t fault her for feeling the way she does. When they signed her on she was like a flagship streamer, they asked her for her input and said they’d use it to shape the platform, but they largely ignored her. They put “streaming” on the back burner and applied few of any of her suggestions. She has a right to feel jaded.
Whatever gives her better control over her work & regulating her community. I know streamers complain a lot about the lack of support tools on YT. Mod tools are super super important (baning bad chatters is good for everyone). I switched to watching twitch streams and yeah ads are annoying, but i pretty much just pay for my favorite streamer and occasionally catch gift subs. Its easier to watch people your not subbed to not-live bc then you dont miss anything when ads play and you can skip/rewind. What i really like on twitch tho is hoping POV to see the same events from a different streamer (i just run back to my streamer when ads get too much)
yt mod tools are waaay better than twitch. I moved away from twitch bc limited options and don't want to give full control to a mod who can change anything including payment address. Yt can change settings on ai mod, only verified ppl, 1 account per phone, shadow ban, ban a country, save filters etc etc. Also chanters are based off streamer I can name many streamers who are very positive on both platforms bc streamer, mods, etc gets rid of it fast unless ya. Ppl are now making more money multi streaming now way more in fact. It's about $$$$ not community nor mod tools etc. Ask your parents what's twitch? then ask yt. More and more know yt and more streamers are now on yt live etc with way more viewers bc yt is worldwide. Look at the asia streamers on Yt hahaha. Soo many have crazy amount of views.
as for ads get a pihole works on Yt and twitch so don't need that prime which is best thing for twitch imho. lolol. If no prime ya
i just hate how twitch doesn't let us control when ads happen anymore. like every 30 minutes I get a little notification that says an ad is about to happen. I'm just like I can't stop this. either subscribe or just suffer through the ads. i can snooze it but it doesn't stop it after 3 times and im just like 😓
as someone who never has the time to sit down and watch a livestream i will always go to youtube for vods. regardless where she goes as long as the vods are on youtube im not complaining lol
The culture is dumb. There is no difference except the quality is better on UA-cam, and you can pause and rewind a live stream. You can't do that on Twitch. If you're a lurker only, UA-cam is the better choice. Plus, UA-cam has fewer ads
There is more differences than that when you look at it from a Streamer side. Like the whole knocking and collab stream features. Too many people are only looking at it from viewer side when they think about the differences but she's not a viewer. She's a Streamer and streaming is just easier on Twitch because of the differences, primarily the streaming tools each platform offers.
ya i cant watch anymore because of ads and im broke but im super happy 4 her and the community
Get a free vpn connect it to some other country which doesn’t serve ads like turkey and a bunch of south east asian countries.
@@Joy_49 This. There are countries who get no ads at all lol. People be too dvmb to think that there are ways around the ad issue and just give up.
If these people are really her fans, a platform switch won't stop them from watching her 🤷♂
Get pie if your on computer
there are tutorials/guides that with an adblock will block twitch ads, just google how to block twitch ads with ublock origin, if you can't figure it out at that point you're just too broke to be stupid
@@zm6rnachrnau nah Its just difficult to do with my lag and stuff. Also I don't idolize streamers or go out my way for them because no matter how many streams you watch, you don't truly know them. If being a "true fan" means going out your way to support them with no convenience to you, then I choose to focus on my life lmao.
Please watch streams/content for your entertainment, not to prove your a "TRUe FaN"
I'm canceling my subscriptions on twitch and just going to get turbo so I don't get ads. The only issue is that I don't get to be part of sub chat only mode or get emotes BUT it's not a big problem for me since I avoid chatting anyway because I get triggered by the flamers.
A solution for Rae is to do what leslie does. She can multistream and ignore YT chat. Leslie has her music streaming on a different audio channel so YT stream and vods don't get demonetized they just won't be able to hear the music. Multistream, she can keep her YT viewers and still have her .99 cent subs going.
I am actually surprised that the streamers that moved back to Twitch are against the idea of multi-streaming. Like why not? It doesn't seem like such a bad idea. And it doesn't seem like it would be a hassle to set up because Leslie is doing it.
@88CDawg agreed. In Ray's case she didn't want to split her community up and she didn't want to have to read both twitch and YT's chats and it does kind of alienate YT viewers/chatters
@@VROCSone But that is a crazy thing to say because it's not really splitting her community up when they can choose where to watch her. The chatters can choose Twitch and the people who don't care at all about chatting can choose UA-cam. You also don't have to have both chats up. Leslie only has Twitch's chat open and closes UA-cam's
I am really having a hard time seeing a disadvantage to multi-streaming.
@88CDawg i agree with you. I'm all for it. It's just that rae doesn't have it in her to juggle two chats, but she wants to appease everyone by including them in chat. You're right the people who don't care to chat will/can choose YT but there's people who out right just don't want to use twitch for all sorts of reasons but I feel like those people are far fewer than they seem. They're just louder than most of us. It's a one guy situation, and rae just wants to appease everyone.
@@88CDawgI totally agree! Ludwig’s logic against this was that bc twitch is organized by most viewers in a category, it’s more advantageous for the streamer to keep everyone in one spot on twitch to stay at the top of that category. I can understand that perspective for sure, but I also think that the amount of people who would make the switch from UA-cam to twitch isn’t enough to keep your numbers That high on twitch, but obv idk the stats or percentages and am biased towards YT lol
the real reason is because youtube stopped giving good contracts
Twitch is killing their own platform with these absurd ad reels. Twitch has never been profitable overall, but they fell into the classic company greed where they act like they need to do this while filling up the fat paychecks of the higher ups. A lot of the people that helped build twitch up are probably gone now as well. I feel like UA-cam could literally end twitch right now by copying the few good things that set them apart (emotes, discoverability, etc.) but they aren't interested it seems.
Crazy how UA-cam can copy TikTok with shorts, but won’t copy some features of Twitch to retain popular streamers. They could absolutely body Twitch if they prioritized it.
Why do they say it like they are experimenting if they are just going back to what they used to do before? Wouldn't multistreaming be the new thing to experiment?
It's been 5 years. A lot has changed on twitch since then.
I loved the community on UA-cam for her, i loved she truly seemed to read like almost all comments. On twitch it wont be even close to that and 10 times more toxic with chat hoppers. Its great she has another source of income again but as a vod watcher i loved youtube and i dont use twitch :/
The one benefit Twitch has over UA-cam are mod tools, yes chat hoppers are annoying but with enough mods, you can ban em all. An example of being able to supervise massive fast-moving chats is QTCinderella's Streamer Awards - she hired more mods to take care of the influx of toxicity in her chat, I believe Rae will probably do the same. UA-cam's live video having the ability to rewind/forward streams make it better than Twitch (along with not having the intrusive ads that Twitch has). So long as her team uploads her Twitch vods to UA-cam, then her streams will be somewhat accessible to her UA-cam only viewers.
I feel like yall have never watched a twitch stream in your life if that's your take. Twitch has better and superior mod tools for streamers compared to YT's archaic mod system. In YT, toxic messages will still appear even if the mods deleted it already bc of the chat delay. This has been talked about publicly by Rae's and Sykkuno's mods who has complained that YT chat is just straight up a s s.
In Twitch, you can community perma ban chatters. If all the Roomies streamers decide to do it, they can ban one chatter to all of their channels if that chatter is toxic to other streamers who's part of the Roomies. There's even a ban that you can straight up prevent the viewer acct from watching the stream and you can't chat too.
So for yall to say twitch is full of toxic chat hoppers.... yall are outing yourselves to have never watched twitch recently.🙄
UA-cam chat is way more toxic than twitch chat with mods. She is always one guyed, on UA-cam. With mods hopefully that’ll occur less.
Sounds similar to what Ludwig said.
I love the youtube community. Twitch for me is just to toxic. But i think rae is feeling left out from her friends. They are enjoying there.. sucks for us youtube watchers but at the end of the day its about her feelings and mental health. I will surely miss her. She is the only streamer i watch for almost 5 years now. It hurts not to see her again live but always be happy for her to choose herself and her happiness.
She can simply do the stream at Twitch and upload videos on UA-cam and do tiktoks and she will be fine. 🎉
I don't mind twitch. It's just ads. I get that cancelled for me mr.beast controversial beast games every few mins.
I prefer youtube over twitch sucks but ill just have to do vods i absolutely hate twitch
I am with you, I absolutely hate Twitch. Just in general, before Rae said she’d go back. To me, there is absolutely nothing, zero, that redeems Twitch; I don’t understand why people love it so much.
@stormydesert ya I tried doing twitch and just could not get into it there. I'm happy she's planning to still do vods on UA-cam tho so I don't need to settle for twitch. Happy that she can choose whatever platform she wants but sad cuz twitch is kind of inconvenient for me
@@jamaalgaylord5029 yeah, I’m happy for Rae because Twitch seems to make her happier; but personally, can’t stand Twitch. I’m gonna settle for the vods as well. It is what it is.
@@stormydesert People will always say the chat experience but honestly, I don't think that's a great argument anymore especially if you're watching a streamer that plays ads. If you have to deal with ads, the chat experience isn't worth it IMO
But I am like you, I hate Twitch and will never go there and instead just settle for VODs
@ To that I respond what chat experience?! I’ve had better technical & community experience on TikTok chat. Some of those cult fans on Twitch are bullies and I can’t stand the parasocialness.
And “chat” seems to be the only reasoning on why they like Twitch better, which I agree, isn’t a solid argument anymore.
I find it crazy that she is moving back to Twitch because she wants to try it but doesn't even want to try multi-streaming.
She never said she didn’t want to try multi streaming. Yesterday she said she might try it
I dislike Twitch, as a viewer, UA-cam is superior. Will I follow Rae to to Twitch if she goes and stays? I honestly don’t know. I’ve been not only subscribed, but a channel member for at least 4 years. My 4 years badge is about to be meaningless, and that sucks. 😅 I do understand that Rae has spent time considering these things. She had a lot more information than I do and she’s making an educated decision based on her experiences and knowledge of what’s to come. I can’t fault her for feeling the way she does. When they signed her on she was like a flagship streamer, they asked her for her input and said they’d use it to shape the platform, but they largely ignored her. They put “streaming” on the back burner and applied few of any of her suggestions. She has a right to feel jaded.