You can make very strong and long lasting essential oil cold process soaps. You need to blend them properly with a base note essential oil known as anchoring and keeping the soap as cool as possible during saponification
On clay - you can go up to 5% of total oils weight with white kaolin but far less with red & green as they can be drying. I unmolded & cut a lilac cold process bar last night made with fragrance oil Vs. essential oil. I used 3% oil weight. It seemed very strong last night but this morning has mellowed already. By end of cure it should be present but subtle in a hot steaming shower. With the price of essential oils doubling & tripling recipe costs I can see I will be using more fragrance oils. Made a mocha bar with real coffee & cocoa butter. No essential oil option there & it still nearly doubled the recipe cost with added coffee & chocolate fragrance.
Thanks for sharing this. Sooo true , I made a CP that smelled horrible. The fragrance oil was from a very very reputable company ( I won't mention out of respect) that endless smelled amazing in the bottle but once the bars were cut smelled literally like cod liver oil. Horrible! I called the company because it was a very simple cp with simple oils. I am also aware that temperature changes many things. So I advised that they look into why their fragrance oil was behaving like that even in different cp recipes. I also see a difference in soap scents when I use clay. Great info that you shared. ❤ from the soap community 🎉Happy soaping ❤
I have a lavender EO soap that retains it fragrance quite well. It could be the brand you use. There are also some EO & FO blends that give the best of both worlds. Happy soap making!
Thanks for the tips. But, beware of fragrance oils. They are hormone disruptors. Yes, the soap is a wash off product. But when you use it in the steaming shower, all the molecules are set free in the air you breath and you are leterally putting it on your largest organ of your body, which also absorbs everything you put on it and sends it into your bloodstream. Hormone disruptors can cause many problems, from migraines to infertility to cancer. Your hormones regulate all functions of the body. Please do your research ❤ stay healthy, everyone
When making cold process soap, can both essential and fragrance oil both be used in the same batch of soap to get the lasting scent of fragrance oil and the benefits of essential oil? I have searched and can't find an answer. Thank you.
There is a lot of great info out there on max safe amounts of essential oils in CP soaps as well as guidance on clay usage. Ex. Red clay can be very drying above a certain % of total oils wt. Im learning a lot about all of this. Additionally Im discovering all of the different temperatures at which essential oils are rendered scentless or greatly diminished. Temp is a biggie. Also as George mentioned, anchoring your top notes (commonly at a higher percentage) for example. 2.5% of oil wt in oj oil anchored with an additional 1% cedar atlas boosts the oj without smelling of cedar. I tried a 2% cedar oil w the oj & could smell it which I wanted & liked. In costing out my recipes I was kinda shocked to find my take on a recipe from Elly's chocolate soap made with coffee was doubled in price by both choc & coffee fragrance oils (I thought a mocha scent might be really nice) still waiting on the choc oil (holiday shipping times...) Since the recipe already has both cocoa butter & real coffee I think a light addition of both scents should be enough 30 grams ea per 1000g total oil wt. So per batch without fragrance oils its about $15.00 to make the soap (10 150g bars) with light oils added its $28.00! & with strong scent over $44.00! Yikes! Granted Im not yet investing in bulk essential oils & fragrances yet but it just shows how pricey these things are. Given the cocoa butter & strong brewed coffee in the recipe I may scale back the fragrances to 1/2 above amounts but wont know till I mix. I really hope to stick w natural colorants vs. synthetics & essential oils vs. fragrance. With judicious shopping around for supply I think you can offer up an organic all natural product that really speaks for itself (& you can feel & smell the quality difference) at a decent price per bar with a little homework. Its just a hobby now but maybe 1 day as a side thing. Having fun exploring it for sure. Great topic.
You are so right temperature is a HUGE part of it. Some essential oils WILL cause your batter to heat up VERY quickly and crack in the mold. Your cost analysis is super interesting-those costs add up VERY quickly. Most soap makers especially beginners or hobbyers tend to lean more towards fragrance oils due to the extensive and unique scent options, accessibility, and lower cost. Bulk definitely takes you cost down as you stated. Thanks so much for watching and weighing in here in the comments-hope you stick around for more!
You honestly can't tell by looking at the bottle but just try to do as much detective work as possible and buy sample sizes to test. Finding good fragrances can be expensive and time consuming. I still have a closet full of fragrances from when I first started out. Never used them.
Using kaolin clay in your recipe can also help anchor fragrance in your soap I suggest 1 tablespoon for every 2 pounds of soaping oils ..
Yes. Kaolin is such a great cost-effective option. Thanks for watching and commenting!
1 tbsp of clay?
You can make very strong and long lasting essential oil cold process soaps. You need to blend them properly with a base note essential oil known as anchoring and keeping the soap as cool as possible during saponification
That's right! Thanks for adding this gem to the conversation. Appreciate you watching.
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Any suggestions on how to do
that please? because I'm having problem with my fragrance to last in my soaps
I can't find the description can you please let me know how to access it thank you
Can u put it in the fridge during saponification?
On clay - you can go up to 5% of total oils weight with white kaolin but far less with red & green as they can be drying. I unmolded & cut a lilac cold process bar last night made with fragrance oil Vs. essential oil. I used 3% oil weight. It seemed very strong last night but this morning has mellowed already. By end of cure it should be present but subtle in a hot steaming shower. With the price of essential oils doubling & tripling recipe costs I can see I will be using more fragrance oils. Made a mocha bar with real coffee & cocoa butter. No essential oil option there & it still nearly doubled the recipe cost with added coffee & chocolate fragrance.
Thanks for sharing this. Sooo true , I made a CP that smelled horrible. The fragrance oil was from a very very reputable company ( I won't mention out of respect) that endless smelled amazing in the bottle but once the bars were cut smelled literally like cod liver oil. Horrible! I called the company because it was a very simple cp with simple oils. I am also aware that temperature changes many things. So I advised that they look into why their fragrance oil was behaving like that even in different cp recipes. I also see a difference in soap scents when I use clay. Great info that you shared. ❤ from the soap community 🎉Happy soaping ❤
Hope things worked out with the company. Even taking all the right precautions you can still find some real "stinkers" out there. Happy soaping!
😞well that answered my question! I like lavender EO in my soaps guess I’ll have to try a fragrance.
I have a lavender EO soap that retains it fragrance quite well. It could be the brand you use. There are also some EO & FO blends that give the best of both worlds. Happy soap making!
Excellent advice. Thanks for sharing.
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the tips.
But, beware of fragrance oils.
They are hormone disruptors. Yes, the soap is a wash off product. But when you use it in the steaming shower, all the molecules are set free in the air you breath and you are leterally putting it on your largest organ of your body, which also absorbs everything you put on it and sends it into your bloodstream.
Hormone disruptors can cause many problems, from migraines to infertility to cancer. Your hormones regulate all functions of the body.
Please do your research ❤
stay healthy, everyone
When making cold process soap, can both essential and fragrance oil both be used in the same batch of soap to get the lasting scent of fragrance oil and the benefits of essential oil? I have searched and can't find an answer. Thank you.
What did you shake onto your soap? Mica? Cocoa? Thanks.
Either one is a great option to get a nice defined design. Activated charcoal works really well too... its just a bit messy 😊. Thanks for watching!
There is a lot of great info out there on max safe amounts of essential oils in CP soaps as well as guidance on clay usage. Ex. Red clay can be very drying above a certain % of total oils wt. Im learning a lot about all of this. Additionally Im discovering all of the different temperatures at which essential oils are rendered scentless or greatly diminished. Temp is a biggie. Also as George mentioned, anchoring your top notes (commonly at a higher percentage) for example. 2.5% of oil wt in oj oil anchored with an additional 1% cedar atlas boosts the oj without smelling of cedar. I tried a 2% cedar oil w the oj & could smell it which I wanted & liked. In costing out my recipes I was kinda shocked to find my take on a recipe from Elly's chocolate soap made with coffee was doubled in price by both choc & coffee fragrance oils (I thought a mocha scent might be really nice) still waiting on the choc oil (holiday shipping times...) Since the recipe already has both cocoa butter & real coffee I think a light addition of both scents should be enough 30 grams ea per 1000g total oil wt. So per batch without fragrance oils its about $15.00 to make the soap (10 150g bars) with light oils added its $28.00! & with strong scent over $44.00! Yikes! Granted Im not yet investing in bulk essential oils & fragrances yet but it just shows how pricey these things are. Given the cocoa butter & strong brewed coffee in the recipe I may scale back the fragrances to 1/2 above amounts but wont know till I mix. I really hope to stick w natural colorants vs. synthetics & essential oils vs. fragrance. With judicious shopping around for supply I think you can offer up an organic all natural product that really speaks for itself (& you can feel & smell the quality difference) at a decent price per bar with a little homework. Its just a hobby now but maybe 1 day as a side thing. Having fun exploring it for sure. Great topic.
You are so right temperature is a HUGE part of it. Some essential oils WILL cause your batter to heat up VERY quickly and crack in the mold. Your cost analysis is super interesting-those costs add up VERY quickly. Most soap makers especially beginners or hobbyers tend to lean more towards fragrance oils due to the extensive and unique scent options, accessibility, and lower cost. Bulk definitely takes you cost down as you stated. Thanks so much for watching and weighing in here in the comments-hope you stick around for more!
I always have this problem 😢
It's always hit or miss until you get your process dialed in. Thanks for watching.
Interesting!
Thanks for watching!
I do you know if you’re buying a great fragrance by looking at the bottle?
You honestly can't tell by looking at the bottle but just try to do as much detective work as possible and buy sample sizes to test. Finding good fragrances can be expensive and time consuming. I still have a closet full of fragrances from when I first started out. Never used them.