Fences - Analyzing Staging in Act 1, Scene 3 - "How come you ain't never liked me?"

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  • @VirgilwithanE
    @VirgilwithanE 7 років тому +414

    When James Earl Jones begins to talk, you immediately forget you're an adult.

    • @Capcoor
      @Capcoor 2 роки тому +5

      I feel that.

    • @MM-qi5mk
      @MM-qi5mk 2 роки тому +4

      I said yes sir when he asked those questions because it felt like my old man

    • @DarkLorddReviews
      @DarkLorddReviews 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CapcoorMe too

  • @chatroomgoon4975
    @chatroomgoon4975 8 років тому +1407

    James Earl Jones gave an authoritative performance. Denzel looks like he's more charismatic

    • @chatroomgoon4975
      @chatroomgoon4975 8 років тому +9

      True

    • @cassandrawash9472
      @cassandrawash9472 7 років тому +7

      Brown Lady it should be that way, reminds me of good times. the other was good but made me uncomfortable.

    • @cassandrawash9472
      @cassandrawash9472 7 років тому +27

      ***** But Denzel totally makes up for it in the movie, its not as humurous but still not as uncomfortably angry as this dude. So its still a win for him.

    • @sherine202
      @sherine202 7 років тому +21

      Chris Jericho the movie is really really good. Denzel did a fantastic job

    • @kevBark1956
      @kevBark1956 7 років тому +120

      James Earl Jone gave an authentic 1950's response (just like my daddy would). Denzil gave a 2000's response. (don't be too hard on the boy). See how Denzil is smiling. This was not a loving smiling moment in the 1950's. JEJ was teaching his son how to be a MAN in an era where they were still lynching people. "Make sure that they are doing RIGHT by you". That is acting.

  • @LightningRetard
    @LightningRetard 8 років тому +1374

    Both performances were good but JEJ made me feel 8 years old again and I wasn't even on stage

    • @Cheeks730
      @Cheeks730 7 років тому +56

      That voice makes any grown man quiver a little bit.

    • @Panconciovedder
      @Panconciovedder 6 років тому +4

      a mi tambien

    • @eaqua56
      @eaqua56 4 роки тому +11

      When he said straighten up. I straightened up!

    • @TJ-bn1gc
      @TJ-bn1gc 4 роки тому +1

      😂😂😂yep

    • @michellebyrd9017
      @michellebyrd9017 3 роки тому +1

      Mustafa

  • @louiegallo1289
    @louiegallo1289 8 років тому +820

    02:36 He goes from scorning his son to gently and calmly caressing him... The dynamic of Jones' performance is unbelievable.

    • @django7783
      @django7783 7 років тому +41

      James Earl Jones is James "Fucking" Earl Jones!

    • @gregruelas7830
      @gregruelas7830 7 років тому +24

      Yes. I almost teared up like his son. Masterfully done.

    • @gaylegordon6435
      @gaylegordon6435 7 років тому +7

      Fences

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 7 років тому +14

      He won the Tony award for this role.

    • @djkid27
      @djkid27 4 роки тому +14

      That's the whole thing. The delivery was so vast, James earl jones was more teaching his son about worrying if hes being accepted while Denzel seemed more just venting and demoralizing

  • @sdegroot1
    @sdegroot1 7 років тому +473

    Luke: "Father, how come you never liked me?"
    Darth Vader: "Liked you....??"

    • @Sumitsu02
      @Sumitsu02 7 років тому +16

      Archangel the Stylish I totally laughed out loud at this... That just rewrote the entire star wars universe for me.

    • @TotalTuxedo
      @TotalTuxedo 4 роки тому +4

      Most underrated comment

    • @KaiCross
      @KaiCross 4 роки тому +1

      This is funny cuz it has two meanings

    • @KaiCross
      @KaiCross 4 роки тому +1

      and James earl Jones is death Vader

    • @abstraction6212
      @abstraction6212 2 роки тому +1

      You know I imagine an AU of Episode 4 where the roles of obi wan and Darth Vader are reversed I imagine this is how Anakin would treat Luke in episode 4. And it makes sense after all Anakin has been through

  • @hypersaiyan7102
    @hypersaiyan7102 7 років тому +440

    "You deliberately disobeyed me!"

  • @robbbbbbb1
    @robbbbbbb1 8 років тому +646

    No one ever once laughed during James Earl Jones' scene. He commanded far too much respect there. This is almost like a primtime Sitcom vs an Academy Award winning Film in many ways. Denzel's performance was for the entertainment of the audience, which he did fantastically. James' performance was meant to shake your core and impact you emotionally, leaving you with something you take away at the end and carry into your life. There is no comparison for me, Mr. Jones takes this by a mile.

    • @TheEschwank02
      @TheEschwank02 8 років тому +50

      i have a feeling the audiences reaction to denzel might have been more of a generational thing.

    • @robbbbbbb1
      @robbbbbbb1 8 років тому +27

      You wouldn't be wrong. Audiences are much more vocal, somewhat less serious, more seemingly entitled, and a bit less respectful nowadays than they used to be, especially in theater (but also in film and concert, etc.). And I say this as a young person.

    • @donkusack1424
      @donkusack1424 8 років тому +27

      I feel that it was also part of the directing. because Denzel Washington is also a fantastic actor. Because the way they delivered it was completely different makes me think the directors had completely different visions for the show.

    • @shanewicher1363
      @shanewicher1363 8 років тому +16

      +TheEschwank02 I think it was Denzel's speaking style that made audiences laugh

    • @xyon9090
      @xyon9090 7 років тому +1

      Robb Wilson If you listen carefully when the son said, "Because you like me?". The audience laughed in a low tone.
      Same low tone can be heard at the father's statement about him and his wife working it out between them.

  • @thinkingbiblicallywithjexx6564
    @thinkingbiblicallywithjexx6564 4 роки тому +256

    James Earl Jones's performance gave me chills. Courtney B. Vance actually looked scared.

    • @cupcakes7015
      @cupcakes7015 4 роки тому

      Triggering Trina
      He did.
      3/15/2020

    • @EverSide19
      @EverSide19 4 роки тому +9

      I wasn't even the one being yelled at and I was ready to start begging for forgiveness

    • @thinkingbiblicallywithjexx6564
      @thinkingbiblicallywithjexx6564 4 роки тому

      @@EverSide19 😂😂😂😂😂💯

    • @tiffanystennett5485
      @tiffanystennett5485 3 роки тому

      Yes, scared is right. Such believable acting.

    • @robosdrumworld
      @robosdrumworld 2 роки тому +5

      I think Uncle Phil would have played that role if he had the chance.

  • @susaetern
    @susaetern 8 років тому +258

    James Earl Jones has a seriousness to his act. Meanwhile Denzel comes off serious but with a sarcastic undertone, hence why it's seen as "comedic." I like both.

    • @clintmillent
      @clintmillent 4 роки тому +1

      No denzel acting. The 00s audience dont take nun serious smh. Cuz that audience is idiots

  • @Metroplex89
    @Metroplex89 8 років тому +620

    Nobody dares laughing at Darth Vader

    • @bawan45
      @bawan45 5 років тому +25

      Or mufasa lol

    • @js024861
      @js024861 3 роки тому +6

      Yea. It turned into a sitcom when Denzel came up. No disrespect to Denzel, but his take is so different.

    • @StillND
      @StillND 2 роки тому

      I was laughing at both. Even the one dude with Denzel.

  • @thelostremainunfound
    @thelostremainunfound 4 роки тому +63

    Setting aside the argument of which performance was better, Corey in the James Earl Jones version legitimately looks like he's going to cry the whole time and I think he deserves some kudos on his silent performance in that scene.

    • @erici9665
      @erici9665 3 місяці тому

      Yes both actors are tremendous. Both actors in the Denzel play are embarrassing

  • @PJsFirstChannel
    @PJsFirstChannel 8 років тому +246

    I closed my eyes and imagined Darth Vader scolding a stormtrooper and it was terrifying.

    • @pertamanakprimaindra3928
      @pertamanakprimaindra3928 8 років тому +15

      try luke skywalker

    • @marcusx8676
      @marcusx8676 7 років тому

      PJ Maher LOL

    • @zabari
      @zabari 7 років тому

      LoOOOLLLLZZ. Day Made.

    • @thegorn68
      @thegorn68 7 років тому +56

      Luke: Dad? How come you never liked me?
      Vader: Dad? Nigga, as long as you live on my planet of lava Mustafar, you put a "Lord Vader" at the end of every sentence.
      Luke: Yes, Lord Vader.

    • @leatherjackets92
      @leatherjackets92 7 років тому +3

      thegorn68 You forgot the Darth Vader breathing

  • @crashlight2
    @crashlight2 10 років тому +110

    It's really interesting too how JEJ takes the "Straighten up, Goddammit!" line very seriously while it's kind of a throwaway for Denzel.

    • @theastarshow1589
      @theastarshow1589 3 роки тому +6

      I didn’t like Denzel’s delivery of that line. It was a very important line of respect.

    • @iansalinas412
      @iansalinas412 2 роки тому +3

      I love JEJ's way more because it let's us know right away that discipline is really important to him. Whereas Denzel's portrayal says it offhandedly and while looking at the ground. It's the worst part of the Denzel version for me, totally misses the mark on that line whereas for JEJ it's a moment of reveal

    • @theajayieffect
      @theajayieffect Рік тому

      Denzel did it differently for the movie

  • @MichaelSewgoolam
    @MichaelSewgoolam 9 років тому +190

    James Earl Jones acting is powerful.

  • @mariewoods5969
    @mariewoods5969 8 років тому +40

    Both leading actors were great! It was the delivery of the response of the son after Troy asks, "Why do you think that is?" The responses of the son set the tone for the scene. James Earl Jones's (1st Troy) son, responded as one that was crushed by the answer he got to a deep seeded question with still a hopeful, "...because you like me!" Every heart longing to be loved, accepted and approved by a parent could feel his gut wrenching gulp in his throat! On the other hand Denzel Washington's (2nd Troy) son, responded jokingly...which made the audience respond accordingly. Denzel tries to get the scene back but at this point, the audience was primed to laugh at the young man's painful quest for an answer! This is sadly how oftentimes we cope with the tragedies of our experiences. But they both delivered the message! That's the most important thing! Kudos to them both!!!

  • @papalevies
    @papalevies 10 років тому +201

    Amazing performances. I can't believe how different these two scenes feel, using the same exact words. They really paint their own characters.

    • @michalt.6213
      @michalt.6213 5 років тому +12

      I guess their performance reflect the time when it was done and not the time in which the scene is based. Personally, I like Mr. Jones performance better...seems more authentic. He wasn't playing to the audience.

    • @robosdrumworld
      @robosdrumworld 2 роки тому

      Facts Danny DeLloyd did well too

  • @starfox14now
    @starfox14now 8 років тому +736

    those laughs ruin everything, sigh.

    • @Jojo-bk2pq
      @Jojo-bk2pq 7 років тому +57

      I know. It isn't even funny

    • @caseyj5637
      @caseyj5637 7 років тому +3

      How does it ruin anything?

    • @jasonu3741
      @jasonu3741 7 років тому +84

      Casey J it ruins everything because it injects a tone to the scene that was unintended and displaces the viewer from the performance.
      A father is/was imparting wisdom to his son in what was supposed to be a painful, powerful and almost sorrowful way, there is almost a sense of fear from the father that his son might be, or end up to weak to handle life's hardships as the father understands it.
      JEJ's performance will likely be viewed as better (i agree) but denzel's performance is lessened because there is a sense given by the audience's reaction that (it was light hearted in nature) while the silence for JEJ's performance adds to the gravity of his performance.

    • @TYbudgie
      @TYbudgie 7 років тому +31

      The audience reaction in no way disrupts the moment. It's not as if they're unengaged and being a distraction; they are participating directly by reacting naturally to the content of the play. That is the beauty of live theater. It is the actor's job to play the moment truthfully and the audiences job to listen. That is all.

    • @Clown_Syndrome
      @Clown_Syndrome 7 років тому +22

      Thank You Budgie as a viewer and as a human being, we are naturally susceptible to influence. Knowing that this scene is a serious scene, we are still influenced (whether you admit it or not) by the audience's reaction. The laughter absolutely changed the tone of the scene. It's not as though "it's our duty to listen and we will do just that." We're impressionable, and some wanted to see the scene as serous as it was intended. To this, I say watch the film. It re-captures the gravity of the situation.

  • @purnell_fmily
    @purnell_fmily 3 роки тому +19

    In this world it’s not about someone “liking you” it’s all about respect and responsibility.

  • @2Good2BeTrue45
    @2Good2BeTrue45 4 роки тому +42

    Demzel is truly one of the greatest actors of all time. You can tell the scene is originally meant to be dramatic but because of Denzel's immense charisma and natural ability to be funny as well, he can make you inadvertently laugh at things from even a serious nature.
    Despite the fact you could tell they were caught off guard by the laughter, I love how Denzel rolled with and actually started accentuating his voice in a comical way to keep the audience in a jovial type of manner, showing his immense skill of adaption.
    James Earl Jones was just a tour de force. The epitome of authority and order.

    • @Tonycillian5
      @Tonycillian5 Рік тому +2

      I think Denzel didn’t want to go up with JEJ stern angry father so he made sure to mix it up so he doesn’t have to deal with comparisons.

  • @janiceimnochefgetmeoutofhe4418
    @janiceimnochefgetmeoutofhe4418 8 років тому +186

    James Earl got my vote this time xxx

    • @soulfulman1971
      @soulfulman1971 8 років тому +1

      Mine, too. He is my celebrity twin. At let as that's what everyone at my work says. Almost similar voices. LOL

    • @janiceimnochefgetmeoutofhe4418
      @janiceimnochefgetmeoutofhe4418 8 років тому +1

      greeneyedsoul71 aww nice:)

    • @soulfulman1971
      @soulfulman1971 8 років тому

      Janice Riley-Sabanne I don't see a resemblance. I hope it's the Claudine version because we're about the same age. LOL

    • @janiceimnochefgetmeoutofhe4418
      @janiceimnochefgetmeoutofhe4418 8 років тому +1

      greeneyedsoul71 I looked, i see a slight resemblance, yes when he was younger

    • @soulfulman1971
      @soulfulman1971 8 років тому

      +Janice Riley-Sabanne (WhatDidYouCookToday) You, too, huh? I don't see it. However, if there was a movie based on his life, I'm trying out for the part because everyone says I look like him and have a deep voice like him.

  • @danielelford6767
    @danielelford6767 8 років тому +24

    I think this video wonderfully illustrates how performance changes everything. How important delivery is. Both great actors playing the scene very differently, elliciting very different responses. Props to theboy in the first, though, delivers his response breaks your heart.

  • @Brillsama
    @Brillsama 8 років тому +74

    JEJ nailed this

  • @monsterq6
    @monsterq6 2 роки тому +19

    If you're wondering why they're renaming the Court theatre the James Earl Jones, watch this scene. Unreal respect to both artists.

  • @lovethatmagic
    @lovethatmagic 8 років тому +145

    I understand why Denzel intergrated comedy into the performance; because something that is more relatable, will undeniably pull in more ticket sales.
    But James Earl Jones captured the tone of the scene, the use of suspense, tension, an intimidative role as a father; as well having the subtlety of doing more with less!

    • @akulahirpada1993
      @akulahirpada1993 8 років тому +25

      I don't think Denzel even integrated any comedy in his performance. I didn't find anything funny at all. It felt comedic to the audience maybe because of Denzel's fast "talkative" tone compared to James' deep intimidating tone. And also i think it's because of the other actor. In James version, the boy looks intimidated and scared, while in Denzel's version the boy looks rather annoyed, he looks like he's getting nagged about school.

    • @lovethatmagic
      @lovethatmagic 8 років тому +5

      akulahirpada1993
      Denzel's whole body language is also less intimidating and if you watch a lot of the other scenes Denzel plays off of the crowd.
      Sometimes boucing up and down, repeating lines until they get some kind of reaction and generally improvising.
      Don't get me wrong, it's a clear sign of a great actor and I'll even go as far as to say I would prefer to watch the play, due to his outstanding charisma that shines through. But to say that Denzel does not intergrate comedy into his performance.......is simply not true

    • @akulahirpada1993
      @akulahirpada1993 8 років тому +9

      John Lovethatmagic I'm not saying about the whole broadway performance since I didn't watch it I'm just talking about this particular scene. Yes it's true that he often integrates comedy into his performance like in most movies but I just don't find anything comedic about this particular performance.

    • @xxAfricanWarriorxx
      @xxAfricanWarriorxx 8 років тому +7

      I agree with +akulahirpada1993
      I feel like the crowd already know the play and just enjoyed Denzels re-enactment of it. But as far as trying to bring comedy into it I dont think thats what he was intending. Denzels act is also intimidating in its own way

    • @rickstevens5592
      @rickstevens5592 7 років тому

      John Lovethatmagic I don't think comedy was part of it. It's two different audiences. Folks in the 80's were familiar with Wilsons Pittsburgh Cycle and what it meant, whereas today, Wilsons been forgotten until Denzel put himself out there with the film. Seeing Denzel on stage, given that many of his characters are personable will immediately put the audience at ease, especially if he warmed the crowd up. I almost detected he was trying to burn through the laughter, but he didn't have the command Jones has. Denzel did a fantastic job on the film though!

  • @Dom8o8
    @Dom8o8 4 роки тому +23

    James had that old school hardness to it. Reminded me of my Grandpa with my uncles but my Gramps was like Denzel with me 😂

  • @barbados3592
    @barbados3592 3 роки тому +13

    Denzel was great, but James almost made me cry. James take on that was the definition of love, I know what he was doing, I've seen it, and I've felt it.

  • @Rainydayjar
    @Rainydayjar 10 років тому +23

    I found the first scene to be more effective. DW just went on and on, and didn't seem to be responding to his scene partner, whereas JEJ was using what his son was giving back to him to adjust how he was making his point. In particular, the moment where he stops himself, and makes contact with his son, 'before it go along any further,' he shifts entirely, and it's beautiful. Maybe it's a different take on Troy, to not listen to his son, to not pay attention to the effect his words have on him, but for my money, the first scene was much more dynamic.

  • @OneLoveRSR
    @OneLoveRSR 9 років тому +119

    Denzel lacks the intensity. His interpretation is more condescending, frustrated that he has to handle an annoyance: "Ugh, really? I gotta deal with you? Fine. Lemme check you right quick and then go about the rest of my day."
    Mr. Jones' interpretation is along the lines of being angry, fed up and weary (yet refusing to show his weariness, so it manifests itself in startling bravado): "I've had it! I go through shit, each and every single day to provide for you. I don't fuss, I just do it. And you're coming to me with this silliness? It's a slap in my face and I won't have it!"
    However, the common thread in both of their performances (Denzel's delivery and Mr. Jones' staging) is that you can tell there is LOVE deep down. A love which both interpretations of the character are using either "attitude" or "bravado" to mask.

    • @avalonbloodgood9919
      @avalonbloodgood9919 8 років тому +5

      Yes! Exactly! :D

    • @Faith_Ell22
      @Faith_Ell22 4 роки тому +7

      Great explanation! I liked Denzel’s performance, but JEJ blew me away! It spoke to the strained relationship between the father and son that was evident throughout the play. I just believed JEJ more. Just my opinion...

    • @jasonu3741
      @jasonu3741 2 роки тому +2

      @@Faith_Ell22 JEJ is more consistent with the character, tone and subject matter of the play.
      I do feel Denzel's was ruined by the crowd who likely are there to see Denzel on Stage rather than Denzel's rendition of this play, i also feel the actor that played the son made the questioning in a more comical tone, while Courtney B Vance asked more in inquisitive and fearful tone. Courtney B Vance in Essence played the role of the son far better because he acted in a way that a child would who lives with a father like JEJ, he asked the question and retreated immediately. Where as his counterpart asked the question like he was just comming home tipsy from a bar.
      Maybe that was the intention though, because when it came to Denzel in the film... he was far more JEJ than he was in this play (hell maybe he reviewed his own performance and decided to make it stiffer like JEJs, who knows).

    • @user-eq5vy4he7w
      @user-eq5vy4he7w 5 місяців тому

      Yes!

  • @SAnderson54
    @SAnderson54 8 років тому +82

    I love both versions. Denzel really made it his own. But James Earl Jones broke me. Like literally broke me.

  • @anthonygastelum9283
    @anthonygastelum9283 3 роки тому +10

    The audience tells you everything. When Jones said his lines people felt them damn near got me thinking of my life. When Denzel did them not saying it's was bad because it wasn't but just had more humor less reaction from co star. Jones just killed it.

  • @timothyq.5070
    @timothyq.5070 5 років тому +9

    Beautiful. Beautifully acted. By both Denzel and James Earl Jones. The old tough love scene. Troy is telling his son he loves and likes him without actually saying the words. He wants him to do better than he did without being abused or having to haul garbage like him. That is love

  • @WakandaBabe
    @WakandaBabe 8 років тому +17

    The son is Courtney B. Vance...fine actor...the one with James Earl Jones (Law and Order Criminal Intent), Angela Bassett's husband. He finally won a Tony in 2013!

    • @Zanderthegrape
      @Zanderthegrape 8 років тому +1

      and an Emmy just recently! So talented

  • @BraninT
    @BraninT 8 років тому +31

    That's interesting as a counterpoint to Willie Loman of "Death of a Salesman" who's philosophy was that being "liked" was paramount among all things.

    • @alsoknownas875
      @alsoknownas875 8 років тому +6

      Underappreciated comment, right here.

    • @deshaunx776
      @deshaunx776 6 років тому

      Fences and Death of a Salesman come from different perspectives, but share many similar themes. It is very common to compare the two plays.

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 4 роки тому +11

    I think another element of their performances was...James Earl Jones was literally a MAN at the time when August Wilson wrote fences. He would've had much more of a connected understanding of the kind of surrounding that went in to the black experience. Denzel was born around the time the play was set and his formative years were in the late 60's and in to the 70's. So James would've had an anecdotal understanding of what it was like for a black man in that situation. I understand the laughter of the audience...black people tend to laugh at elements of intensity that we have a real understanding of. And I know many of us who had conversations like this with a parent or an elder. But it does take away from the gravity of the play. I don't blame them...never tell the audience how to react, but being privy not only to the performance but their reaction, it does impact the seriousness of it a bit.

  • @patrickhart2483
    @patrickhart2483 4 роки тому +7

    With James, there are so many things I love. He’s working with the wood at the beginning and then the question comes and he stops he’s so upset that he stops his work immediately. He’s so personally offended by this question and that’s what the tirade comes from. He’s totally enraged by how out of order his son’s priorities are, and he’s trying to teach him a real lesson about life

  • @markiegreen5265
    @markiegreen5265 8 років тому +96

    I love Denzel...and the laughing didnt help...but James Earl was won....although the movie Trailer shows Denzels true intentions for the scene witch is great

    • @TomasiAkimeta
      @TomasiAkimeta 8 років тому +23

      these were two different deliveries... well, 4, actually... Denzel's son felt more like an annoyed teenager giving his dad sass, while his dad (Denzel) was a bit more sarcastic and annoyed
      JEL's delivery felt like a hardened man who's temperament has been accustomed by years of horrible treatement by forces outside his control, and JEL's son was a timid younger kid who's trying to deal with feelings of inadequacy

    • @markiegreen5265
      @markiegreen5265 8 років тому

      Good eye

    • @TrainerNomed
      @TrainerNomed 8 років тому +6

      What's interesting about the trailer compared to James Earl Jones' performance is that they are still vastly different from each other! James Earl really paints his performance as something that needs to be done so that he can pass a valuable lesson to his son. It's something that he needs to do as an authoritative, household figure. It's a necessity for him. In the Denzel Washington performance (a la the trailer), we see an intimate exchange that is quieter, personal, but ultimately done with the intent NOT to instruct but to instead abuse. He really drives home the anger he feels for his son in that performance, and to me it still doesn't perform better than James Earl's performance. Granted, he was the first Troy to ever perform, so his performance is undoubtedly the "definitive" Troy experience.

    • @clintmillent
      @clintmillent 4 роки тому

      No denzel acting. The 00s audience dont take nun serious smh. Cuz that audience is idiots

  • @72YaeYaeNdWyoming
    @72YaeYaeNdWyoming 8 років тому +35

    James Earl did it best . Gave it that true granddad touch

    • @stickmanbw
      @stickmanbw 5 років тому

      Grandad, that's how my father raised us.

  • @mhaze210
    @mhaze210 7 років тому +7

    The first minute of this is beyond fantastic.
    "Talkin' bout LIKING SOMEBODY (slam)...GET over here when I'm talking to YOU!"

  • @JuiceHasser
    @JuiceHasser 8 років тому +11

    There is absolutely nothing more refreshing in this world then seeing a brilliant acting performance.

  • @Lee_Forre
    @Lee_Forre 7 років тому +156

    The laughter in the more recent audience is very jarring. There is a realness and bitterness to Jones/Vance because of the closeness to living in a time with open racism. There is nothing funny about this text.

  • @OS-yi5lo
    @OS-yi5lo 4 роки тому +5

    James Earl Jones... holy shit. Absolutely incredible scene. Such a powerful message and true meaning of tough love at its absolute finest.
    I first saw this scene done by Denzel from the movie and thought it was done expertly. But Jones brings such a thundering and heavy dynamic that sends shivers down the spines of the audience.
    Denzel in his live performance definitely was a bit too dialed up and once the crowd started laughing you can feel it in Denzel’s voice as he tries to bring the seriousness of the situation back, but it’s too late; but more or less still was a successful scene.
    Just goes to show how Broadway is still an excellent arena for sharpening your skills to improvise, improve and learn about reactions of those watching. Great clip

  • @freein2339
    @freein2339 10 років тому +22

    James Earl James has such a great aura

  • @suzieqtruth6377
    @suzieqtruth6377 7 років тому +3

    Two different men. One who is broken but still providing for his kid who he expects will have a hard road and one who is essentially content and wants his kid to be grateful.

  • @bertoltbrecht
    @bertoltbrecht 8 років тому +18

    James Earl Jones all the way! His performance shakes me to the core....I cried. Would love to see a clip of Mary Alice as Rose, she was fierce too!

  • @WWAHP
    @WWAHP 10 років тому +39

    Damn, that was a powerful performance by James Earl Jones. Imagine Darth Vader saying that to Luke. LOL

  • @Shelver92
    @Shelver92 9 років тому +57

    It appears as if the 1987 audience was more enthralled and focused as opposed to the 2010 audience which was a bit more vocal and giddy. Still two very nice versions but I will have to take the James Earl Jones version over Denzel.

    • @sbshortcake
      @sbshortcake 9 років тому +2

      pete saws I feel like James Earl Jones as a dominating, commanding, very authoritative presence. I was scared. Denzel Seems more approachable. The way he speaks he more smooth, easy.... That's my POV.

    • @sha11235
      @sha11235 9 років тому

      pete saws Well, James was the voice of Darth Vader and he is playing just as powerful a person here. In the script, Troy is supposed to shove Cory because Cory leans over him when he comes over to Troy.

    • @KaygeeAllah
      @KaygeeAllah 8 років тому +1

      Agreed. You felt James Earl Jones' delivery in your soul. I wonder if it would've felt the same in reverse order.

    • @MarcusFreeman-PopiMarx
      @MarcusFreeman-PopiMarx 8 років тому +3

      +pete saws in James' performance he had different levels. If you notice Corey played by Courtney B Vance starts to decrease or cower but when James grabs him by the shoulders it was to lift him up. A non verbal to say be a man. Also remember the audience in 87 was more of a traditional theatre audience whereas today's audiences are more incline to engage with moments than content. Just a thought.

    • @davidmckibbin1071
      @davidmckibbin1071 7 років тому

      And the 1987 clip was at the Tony Awards, so the audience was even more considerate than usual for the time too.

  • @beetoc.2252
    @beetoc.2252 10 років тому +3

    words are senseless without Emotions , these 2 performances let you experience anything and its opposite. That's how talented and gifted actors can make you feel.

  • @TypetwoAbsolute
    @TypetwoAbsolute 4 роки тому +2

    Denzel throws a bunch of 2x4s
    *Audience starts cracking up*

  • @kevinskyssandbox7610
    @kevinskyssandbox7610 3 роки тому +4

    Surprised that nobody is talking about Courtney B. Vance's performance. He really pulls his weight and more right next to a legend like James Earl Jones!

  • @josevillagomez1375
    @josevillagomez1375 10 років тому +18

    denzel turned that shit into a sitcom .. SMH

  • @gabinoramosjr.597
    @gabinoramosjr.597 10 років тому +14

    When i read the play I imagined the acting as seen in the first scene.

    • @peppermintt3879
      @peppermintt3879 3 роки тому

      I also believe that was the intention. However, Denzel's movie actually portrays the same energy as the JEJ scene.

  • @flexvsl
    @flexvsl 8 років тому +14

    James Earl got this one i almost believe he was talking to me on this one

  • @relafen66
    @relafen66 8 років тому +24

    Great life lesson talk. No sugar coating.

  • @xblendpc9864
    @xblendpc9864 4 роки тому +31

    Imagine playing a serious scene and everyone thinks it’s a comedy

    • @jdavis6053
      @jdavis6053 4 роки тому +4

      Irked my nerve.

    • @starchygoblin9859
      @starchygoblin9859 2 роки тому +10

      Delivery and tone of voice are important. James spoke slowly, with an edge to his voice. Denzel spoke like The Rock delivering a WWF opening promo

    • @andieallison6792
      @andieallison6792 Рік тому

      @@jdavis6053 it was played like a comedy.

  • @zuzumontague
    @zuzumontague 7 років тому +9

    Courtney gives a dynamic performance as Cory.

  • @chrisguzman4633
    @chrisguzman4633 Рік тому +1

    One thing that needs to be accounted for is the importance of the supporting actor. Vance asked with fear yet yearning for love which led to JEJ authoritative performance; while the other actor seemed kind of an airhead, which led to a comedic atmosphere.

  • @justingrant4860
    @justingrant4860 4 роки тому +6

    "You deliberately disobeyed me"

  • @jaquayjackson8341
    @jaquayjackson8341 4 роки тому +7

    Idk why but seeing James Earl Jones play out this scene just felt deeper than Denzel not because of the laughs from the audience but James Earl Jones just has that base in his voice that makes you listen.

    • @HamboneyGamezYT
      @HamboneyGamezYT 4 роки тому +2

      Its like im scared..but i know he's saying something wise and forever relevant...

    • @francoisbessing
      @francoisbessing 2 роки тому

      Yes!

  • @7861iggy
    @7861iggy 9 років тому +6

    it is the tone and way of delievery that makes both acts different even though same dialogues, the theme changed because of the tone but point is still the same.

  • @josuemelena2669
    @josuemelena2669 4 роки тому +7

    People laughing during the Denzel version pissed me off....

  • @jock1645
    @jock1645 8 років тому +5

    I saw a local version of Fences last night. It starred Jeorge Bennett Watson and Gale Samuels and it was very good. Last nights performance was closer to the Denzel version. This scene in particular was delivered in a similar fashion. Personally, I like them both. It's fascinating to see the two interpretations side by side. Great show.

  • @monicahope3615
    @monicahope3615 7 років тому +1

    I just came here today because I watched the film yesterday. Stage play is different. Different audience every day. Different reactions. Seeing the play clips with Viola Davis made me cry.

  • @noseefood1943
    @noseefood1943 7 років тому +41

    i didn't know fences was a comedy.

    • @ehmiguel7602
      @ehmiguel7602 7 років тому +15

      Noseefood it isn't. stupid audience.

    • @incognitofool6516
      @incognitofool6516 7 років тому +8

      EH Miguel The audience isnt stupid. Denzel's delivery is filled with charisma. It connects to the audience differently. Think before you comment.

    • @SavantP
      @SavantP 7 років тому +3

      +Justin Baggett James Earl frightened the audience...he partially traumatised me watching from my phone...im sure some abused kid got flashbacks watching the scene..it had more to do with command is why nobody laughed...that voice is powerful

    • @piecesofme8531
      @piecesofme8531 4 роки тому

      LMAO

    • @cleofaspingarron
      @cleofaspingarron 3 роки тому

      @Nosefood well, Denzel made it one. He's is THAT good

  • @OfficiatingBornVideos
    @OfficiatingBornVideos Рік тому +2

    Both were wonderful. The crowds were different. Likely the crowd from Denzel's performance knew more about the book and the play than they did when James Earl Jones Performed the role.
    I love both actors just the same. Love what they did and how they interpreted it. I was almost in tears watching both. Both are treasures to the craft.

  • @sonofbatman5233
    @sonofbatman5233 5 років тому +3

    Both are phenomenal performances by very talent actors. They each had a different take on the scene, and of the character. That being said, I think JEJ’s performance was far more layered. He was trying to teach his son a very important lesson, the only way he knew how. “Don’t you go through life worried about if somebody like you!” Because the world is tough and cruel and it doesn’t give a damn about you...”But you better make sure that people are doing right by you!” You stand up for yourself, you stand up for what you know is right, and when someone tells you to move...you look them dead in the eye and say “No...you move.”
    He was telling his son how much he loved him, by trying to prepare him better for life than he was...

  • @angusmerriweather1589
    @angusmerriweather1589 39 хвилин тому

    RIP James Earl Jones. Your perfromances were always powerful and soulful.

  • @kgunitkeese17
    @kgunitkeese17 3 роки тому +6

    Even though they’re both fantastic actors, I’m going to have to put James Earl Jones as the winner. The minute he slammed the handful of wood down on the ground and commanded “come here boy when I talk to you! Straighten up, goddamnit!” I felt genuine fear and even I straightened myself up. He has such a presence with his voice that you stop everything and you listen.

    • @hnic623
      @hnic623 3 роки тому +1

      unfortunately, one is more dramatic and the other is more comedic. That is not to say that was the intention, per say, but it gives credence to the time in which we live.

    • @kgunitkeese17
      @kgunitkeese17 3 роки тому

      @@hnic623 I suppose you’re right. But that being said, I still feel chills when I listen to James talk. He’s just got an aura about him

    • @hnic623
      @hnic623 3 роки тому

      @@kgunitkeese17 I was leaning toward James

    • @kgunitkeese17
      @kgunitkeese17 3 роки тому

      @@hnic623 Oh, my apologies

  • @m.layfette6249
    @m.layfette6249 4 роки тому +2

    I was Beyond Privileged to see James Earl Jones live and in person perform "Fences" at the National Black Theatre Festival (NBTF) in W-S over 2-decades ago. August Wilson is my inspiration for writing. His talent knows No Bounds!! #BlackProse

  • @TempeSoldier123
    @TempeSoldier123 7 років тому +21

    A young Courtney B. Vance.

    • @stephanierandlet5798
      @stephanierandlet5798 6 років тому

      TempeSoldier123 yeah when I looked at him I couldn't remember who he was😣

  • @GGregoryDarnley
    @GGregoryDarnley 11 місяців тому +1

    The dynamic between these two is phenomenal

  • @horaciog9166
    @horaciog9166 8 років тому +6

    I want to give that dude a hug bro

  • @dionmitchell3793
    @dionmitchell3793 7 років тому +1

    thank you stagingShakespeare the more that I watch this the more I'm admired by the fact that you can take just an ordinary life and but it into a masterpiece and than show it in a way that everyone can relate to and understand it.

  • @Saku19
    @Saku19 9 років тому +4

    James Earl Jones reminds me of my father, my eyes started tearing up.

  • @francoisbessing
    @francoisbessing 3 роки тому +2

    Watched the James Earl Jones performance a second time in a row to properly analyze why it is so great and even the second time I still had chills and had to clap. That performance alone is Worthy of the Tony award.

    • @tomshea8382
      @tomshea8382 Місяць тому +1

      He got it handed to him about an hour later.

  • @jackmen4
    @jackmen4 7 років тому +3

    James jones reminded me about my mom and dad. I even straighten up myself when he said it.

  • @thadsteel4300
    @thadsteel4300 3 роки тому +1

    This really hits home in a way few things do. As fathers, we owe it to our sons to emulate what it is to be a man. Damn right, "ain't no law says I got to like you... it don't matter if anybody likes you... you just be sure they're doing right by you."
    Amen, 🙏🙏🙏

  • @marquiessimmons4508
    @marquiessimmons4508 7 років тому +3

    a real actor controls the stage the audiance and the actors with them such incredible pressence

  • @calebskinner5317
    @calebskinner5317 4 роки тому +1

    Providing for your family is the absolute bare minimum that a man does. A real man will love his family. Physical provision and emotional/mental provision are key to a healthy life and a true man provides both.

  • @dolled-upjen3606
    @dolled-upjen3606 8 років тому +4

    james earl jones......mmmmm!!! that some emotional acting right there, feelings his words rolling along my body

  • @anthonyclarke2253
    @anthonyclarke2253 8 років тому +263

    Anybody else come here after watching the movie trailer?

  • @utterfool2164
    @utterfool2164 3 роки тому +1

    This is the most inappropriate laughter I’ve heard in a while

  • @robot21093
    @robot21093 8 років тому +8

    Funny that the audience for the JEJ version didn't find any humor in the performance, while the audience in the DW version did.

    • @abadon226
      @abadon226 8 років тому +9

      I don't see either performances as comedy; that was serious dialog. The maturity level of the audience, or the ability to handle serious material, seems somewhat diminished with the later audience. A commentary on where we are going as a people?

    • @rich8307
      @rich8307 8 років тому +2

      Yeah, that audience fucking ruined the moment.

    • @tunafishjoe
      @tunafishjoe 8 років тому +7

      I think it's the pacing of the scene. The first scene was about 3 minutes long. The second, about 2. The faster pace gave it a more lively, jovial atmosphere. That, and Denzel had this goofy look and stance. James' stance was much more intimidating.

    • @jeremyz23
      @jeremyz23 8 років тому +8

      I agree. In the first scene the son's voice is shaking. He is intimidated and afraid of JEJ. In the Denzel scene the son responds quickly to each question. Almost like an Abbot and Costello bit.

    • @robbbbbbb1
      @robbbbbbb1 8 років тому +2

      That pacing of call and response may be the most significant factor.

  • @mr.november7971
    @mr.november7971 4 роки тому +1

    This was elite level acting! An absolute clinic!

  • @nighttray1489
    @nighttray1489 7 років тому +7

    James portrayal of Troy seems more powerful, while Denzel's seems more natural. I think I prefer Denzel's simply due to the fact it reminds me of my father. Both Denzel & James are great actors though.

    • @Kr4v3rd
      @Kr4v3rd 2 роки тому

      I don't know. James is perfect. Denzel, seems like he's just saying his lines. Didn't give any time to breathe. A more natural way was James earl jones. He gave pause, felt like this epic speech was given and he was thinking of it as he was going through it. Denzel is just way to fast. And yes, people are saying Denzel heard the crowd laughing and it kind of does seems like he decided to go with it. That last part did make it seem like he decided to continue with the angry sitcom dad vibe. He's got too much Denzel in his roles I feel, like he's about to man on fire somebody.

  • @mattpoochi6964
    @mattpoochi6964 3 роки тому +1

    I can’t take anything from Denzel because he’s one of my favorite actors but James does something that speaks more than the words spoken, he places his right hand on his son’s heart and left hand on his shoulder. That says, son I do what I do because I love you not because I like you. I love when he says, I owe a responsibility to you.

  • @lunch7213
    @lunch7213 7 років тому +4

    Corey had such a defeated look after Jones' speech, same as I would

  • @dawnunited6946
    @dawnunited6946 4 роки тому +1

    Man that's some real talk right there I respect that

  • @elijahspeller6796
    @elijahspeller6796 5 років тому +4

    I feel like they both intentionally put their own spins on this...JEJ set the tone early by slamming down the 2X4s and Denzel set it by chuckling before he said "like you...?" why must everything be a comparison...I like both... they provided different things.. they're both HOF level actors... just enjoy it

  • @chriswilliams7824
    @chriswilliams7824 2 роки тому +2

    James Earl Jones is intimidating as heck in this scene, but he showed love at the end of the scene.

  • @LaurieSuppleOfficial
    @LaurieSuppleOfficial 4 роки тому +4

    This shows the demands of audiences from then to now, which I’ve been thinking about a lot. There is no such thing as true drama on stage anymore, there’s always got to be comedy somewhere. After the first example, the second almost made me angry with how witty and fast paced it was for laughs. I blame the producers, audiences, and culture for those changes, not Denzel.

  • @FlorJor26
    @FlorJor26 3 місяці тому +1

    Both are great in their own regards, but JEJ started out so angry and then brought it back down towards the end. You really felt the scorn in the beginning, but brings it back with a teaching moment about it not mattering if someone likes you. Denzels is more of a sarcastic undertone the whole performance, and there's never a moment where you feel that heart to heart. Those are the biggest differences.

  • @MargoHall
    @MargoHall 10 років тому +21

    The contemporary style of Denzel's production did not do this scene justice. I feel like it was played for the audience not for each other. Much harder for the actors to approach if from the JEJ perspective.

  • @Angedoescoversongs
    @Angedoescoversongs 6 років тому +1

    Watching this puts shivers down my spine James Earl Jones is a replica of my grandfather everything about him reminds me of my grandfather he had the same exact conversation with my uncle when I was a kid and my uncle was a grown man at the time.that was something let me tell you lol

  • @SWIFTzTrigger
    @SWIFTzTrigger 8 років тому +142

    James Earl Jones is a much better actor in my opinion.

    • @Beregond1861
      @Beregond1861 5 років тому +12

      Regardless of which one of them is a better actor, this skit is protrayed VERY differently by JEJ than by Denzel. The first is much more serious and succinct. The second is somewhat light-hearted and potentially a bit more endearing. What this video's focus emphasises is the difference in each's point of view on the scene, not the skill of each actor, though they both are VERY skilled actors.

    • @bryant7542
      @bryant7542 4 роки тому +3

      Denzel seems more natural. He seems so dadlike.

    • @thejazzmusician
      @thejazzmusician 4 роки тому +1

      @@bryant7542 more natural than Jones??

    • @footmotion
      @footmotion 4 роки тому +2

      @@Beregond1861 one thing to keep in mind when it comes to the commentary section is that not everyone is judging the performances by the rubric. So going from person to person is going to have a very different interpretation of who performed the scene better, who related to the audience better, or other elements that could be compared.

    • @stedye
      @stedye 4 роки тому +1

      For all it means; As a former acting instructor at National Black Theater, both are solid performances, but, James Earl is more rooted to adherence to the context of the play as written by August Wilson than Denzel.

  • @abdelll9737
    @abdelll9737 3 роки тому +2

    There’s absolutely no reason to be cruel to your children. My father never understood this. Always gotta be a macho and show who’s boss.

  • @CertifiedLeeHawkins
    @CertifiedLeeHawkins 10 років тому +19

    The fact that the crowd was laughing so much in the second version shows how much dignity and respect black men and our stories have lost in modern times. Everything is a joke now -- even the relationship between a black father and his son. We are lost.

    • @Rebecca-ld9mu
      @Rebecca-ld9mu 10 років тому +7

      When this was shown to me I was drawn into the seriousness because of the relationship between a father and a son. Yes, the father referred to their race, but I was focused on their relationship, not their skin color. When everyone started debating race I had to stop and think "They're both the same race. There's nobody of a different race in this scene. Why are we debating this? How did the feelings between a father and son about their relationship turn into a racial issue?"
      The second performance was obviously made to be comedic. The speed, their expressions, the quick pauses after Denzel Washington said something, were all planned. They do rehearse these things. James Earl Jones was deliberate in his speech. He spoke slowly. His actions and facial expressions made the mood serious. In the second performance there was smiling. Not in the first. That changes the tone.
      Do you really believe that if James Earl Jones went out today and did the exact same performance in the same manner that people would laugh at him?

    • @freein2339
      @freein2339 10 років тому

      Being that the relationship was not very good...a little comedy didn't hurt....Actually I thought the play was depressing....

    • @freein2339
      @freein2339 10 років тому +3

      Also James Earl Jones brings more tension to the character...not to say Denzel was not good but the voice of James Earl Jones is hard to laugh at....even when he's funny....

    • @CertifiedLeeHawkins
      @CertifiedLeeHawkins 10 років тому +5

      I just believe that James Earl Jones "got" the script and August Wilson's original intent and the others didn't. And of course, you lost me at "It's not about race." LOL Nothing more to say on this.

    • @freein2339
      @freein2339 10 років тому +4

      Lee Hawkins James Earl Jones "gets" every script right....

  • @J.D.Vision
    @J.D.Vision 3 роки тому +1

    That was an amazing performance 👏 bravo!

  • @DurrellLyonsPerforms
    @DurrellLyonsPerforms 9 років тому +5

    I personally like Denzel's version better, just because it wasn't what I expected.
    When you read the play, that monologue appears as powerful as James Earl Jones delivered it. He was just really accurate in delivering it the way everyone would interpret it... and of course with the Jame Earl Jones power behind it.
    Denzel Washington was not what I expected, but that's what made it more interesting. Now I was forced to really listen and pay attention. There is no way you can possibly anticipate anything as an actor or a spectator. The comedy and sarcasm made it more human to me (maybe because my mama did me like that on a consistent basis). I wasn't just watching a powerful performance anymore, I was really living in it.
    Both obviously iconic regardless.

  • @smartymcfly7972
    @smartymcfly7972 Рік тому

    Almost somber how it transitioned from a drama to a comedy. Sign of the times I suppose. The struggle was realer back then but by God more authentic.
    Either way; A blessing to see such great men at work. Bring it back ✨

  • @wiisalute
    @wiisalute 7 років тому +3

    I'm imagining Mufasa scolding Simba a second time