One thing that I most hate about Digimon Seekers was that they decided to use amazing ideas and concepts, like being a mature story, exploring the digital side of Digimon, crack team, d-brigate, prototypes, etc, but do this for a format that didn't worked for it, not just because that most of people wouldn't care, but because of the web novel format and its length there was too little space to explore all of these ideias at its maximum potential, making things for example the prototype and pulsemon already have their mega forms unlocked and only them and a little of their perfect forms appear, or brigadramon that is this new super cool commandramon mega only appears for one chapter part and doesn't do much, or ryudamon that is one of the prototypes but the only thing he does is lost a battle and that is it. And we couldn't explore more of these ideas like more crack team Digimon, more d-brigate Digimon like darkdramon, more Royal Knights or just more moments with its main characters like eiji or leon. For me, one of the biggest wastes of Digimon's potential
While it had a very rough start, overall the story was very intriguing and entertaining, I honestly wouldn’t mind a sequel story set in the same continuity, but maybe following different characters; there are a number of background hints and information presented.. as well as the very nature of the Firewall itself that allows for a huge variety of stories in the “GrIMM” universe.
Finished listening to Digimon World Order's audio read of the book and I LOVED this story! Would love to experience this story again through other mediums!
I was pretty frustrated with Seekers when it came out. So much to that it was the the last drop of motivation I needed to accept I had to write some sort of original fanfic digimon story. However, this video makes me want to wait for someone to do a dramatic retelling of Seekers on YT - something actually pleasant to engage with, as a study case. Now that I think about it, Cory, wouldn't you be interested in doing? Something like Comicstorian, or just a general story breakdown and analysis? I'd be very down to listen to you!
There is a fan translation for seekers however its for the first 2 parts, they didn't continue afterward for unknown reasons but I do recommend looking into it if you wanna start reading it
Yeah I do name drop Appmon later in the video, calling it one of the best Digimon stories of the modern era (2015 onwards). But I know what part you're talking about and could have mentioned it there too. @@johncosco2348
Great video as always. I heard a lot of bad media about seekers, and you summed up the whole project very well in 11 mins. It looks great, but suffers from digimon's lack of effort or forward thought in many areas
Ok I wasn’t exactly convinced but you managed to sway me into reading it. Though I can say that I see DS as a bonafide anime. Honestly I’d skip (much to my utterly shattered heart) Ghost Game and give this a proper media it deserves.
@@thedigiknow thanks! & You were right about the last 3 parts of Seekers, so much easier to read. Speaking of CyberSleuth, if you want your Digimon fix in what's looking like a slow year for the franchise, there are unbelievably talented modders that have added another 500 Digimon from ReArise, New Century, etc to the complete edition on Steam. Well worth checking out at least.
It was the prose for me. Not only the clear automatic translation issues (even though they did seem to be reviewed by a human later?) but that fact that you can't tell who is talking to who 50% of the time, or that sometimes they just... narrate the same thing a character just said out loud. Maybe it works better as audio, but I don't know. Otherwise, the story wasn't actually bad at all, even though the premise and tone aren't exactly my cup of tea. I really liked Chapter 4.
(plus, you don't want me doing an audio drama production! I'm not an actor, me doing the voices would be terrible haha everyone would sound the same. The men, the women, the Digimon haha)
@thedigiknow oh no, I didn't mean you in particular, but the fact that there were a few digimon YTs that started and dropped it. But also yes the digimon Corp should have done it themselves
Yeah those channels probably paused because it's a lot of work for an individual. My hope is that Digimon announces an English equivalent of the Japan only audio versions. I would promote that! @@xerocloud3849
I might give digimon seekers a try, I like the design of the main digimon, which is a big factor to me when trying to approach digimon stuff. Sadly, chapter one, even with a fixed translation, felt so stale, boring and a repetition of what we have to always do. We always have to reintroduce them, we have to rediscover digimon, re explain them, re retcon, and I haven't read further more yet, but im sure the digital world is about to expload (and probably the real world too) like every weekend. The MC felt quite.m boring to me, and the fact that the first chapters try so hard to sell me on how poooooor he is but he is actually smaaaart felt so annoying. And my main thing with digimon seekers is if digimon are actual characters. Something I always hated about digimon is how they are just tools. They are villain, they are partners they are whatever the plot needs, but they almost never become fully realized characters like the human, especially if they are partner digimon. So, I always feel there is a huge disconnect with "digimon are real and they are sentient" with what the writers (or gameplay) actually use them for.
Without going into spoilers, I thought the ending could have been better. We are getting an epilogue, and, unfortunately, Seekers feels incomplete without it (which isn’t the job of an epilogue). Part 3 was certainly the most interesting part though, and I found that so fascinating that I had a hard time caring about Eiji afterward. It also didn’t help that part 1 is so awkwardly translated that his personality and relationships established then don’t feel properly set up. Like, there were parts of step 4 where it seemed like they were doing a callback to part 1 that didn’t come through the translation to me.
Honestly, Digimon Seekers wasn't a bad idea but I think the manga format wasn't the right fit. It would have worked better IMO as a video game or anime or perhaps Live Action. Still worth a look if you are a Digimon fan though.
Hm, I see, very interesting, I can see where you’re coming from, i hope this Story doesn’t just get left in the dust. Actually, have we had a True Digimon Adaptation of any kind at this point?
Whoever said "well that's just light novels are" when discussing digimon seekers writing, needs to stop coping. I read light novels in the past that weren't written or translated that well but even they had better grammar skills than Digimon Seekers.
Man. Seekers was weird. Like you I loved the more adult approach to Digimon, but I lost interest in it quickly. My main problem being the drip feeding. Would have preferred a finish project or at least larger parts released. I kinda wish I stuck with it as I like what I read, eh, I might go back and read all of it at some point. On that last point where you were talking about a narrated podcast with a bit of production put into it. I was actually doing that for a bit at the start. Unfortunately, life just got busy, and I put it down.
I liked the concept but got bored of the first set. I'll see if I can give the next chapter another read. I hope they collect it as a prose novel or adapt it as an anime/video game because its sounds pretty cool.
😢 i agree with your take. I couldn't get past the first couple parts of chapter one reading it was just a pain. I found a couple channels doing their own voice work for it but they were slow/poorly done too.. would have loved an english audio version
Although i saw you cover this was the next big thing. I have no idea what this is or how to watch it. Is it a manga, a web comic, a online thing? And anime? Where do i even go to see this?
I mentioned before last year when Ghost game concluded that Seekers was going to be a huge letdown one way or another. Seekers should have been an anime or a sequel to Ghost Game anime have taken the spot instead of Great Mission which after 46 episodes just still feels bland as hell and its the same slow pace as Ghost game when it comes to the more important story beats. I am growing tired of such slow crawl storytelling from a either a story such as Seekers and the show Great Mission that promotes the vital bracelet while everything else just feels generic. Because of this, there is nothing to make it stand out instead of just having another Digimon Series like we should have to fill the void last year and the Seekers format doesn't make logical sense as the next step in digimon storytelling when told the way it was with not much care put into it.
Part of me feels Adventure 2020's misuse of Omegamon and early as hell Ultimate/Perfects made everything related to the Vital Bracelet obnoxiously slow to the point where most big story beats don't feel satisfying. Tamers and Savers/Data Squad accelerated to Perfects/Ultimates in the early 10s and managed to be reasonable shows. Even Frontier with Beast Spirits were reasonably handled.
A "complete review of Digimon Seekers" posted before Seekers actually ends. What time travel trickery is this? Not that 1 chapter will likely make a difference, but still kinda weird to act like "all but the last page" is somehow "complete". Especially when it does end in just a few days, anyway.
@@michaelliggett1622 They took a month off. The epilogue chapter is releasing this weekend. They announced this last month when the previous chapter released.
I'm glad at least one 90's franchise is acknowledging/respecting that their original fanbase is getting older. We don't expect the stories to start having SA and murder and the like but the darker themes are welcome.
Just throwing it out there, Digipanda did a great narrated version of chapter 1 all the parts shout out to that
One thing that I most hate about Digimon Seekers was that they decided to use amazing ideas and concepts, like being a mature story, exploring the digital side of Digimon, crack team, d-brigate, prototypes, etc, but do this for a format that didn't worked for it, not just because that most of people wouldn't care, but because of the web novel format and its length there was too little space to explore all of these ideias at its maximum potential, making things for example the prototype and pulsemon already have their mega forms unlocked and only them and a little of their perfect forms appear, or brigadramon that is this new super cool commandramon mega only appears for one chapter part and doesn't do much, or ryudamon that is one of the prototypes but the only thing he does is lost a battle and that is it. And we couldn't explore more of these ideas like more crack team Digimon, more d-brigate Digimon like darkdramon, more Royal Knights or just more moments with its main characters like eiji or leon.
For me, one of the biggest wastes of Digimon's potential
Yulin should have an independent arc.
While it had a very rough start, overall the story was very intriguing and entertaining, I honestly wouldn’t mind a sequel story set in the same continuity, but maybe following different characters; there are a number of background hints and information presented.. as well as the very nature of the Firewall itself that allows for a huge variety of stories in the “GrIMM” universe.
Good review! I'll admit it was nice to see you do another "One Year Later" retrospective like you did for Ghost Game
Finished listening to Digimon World Order's audio read of the book and I LOVED this story!
Would love to experience this story again through other mediums!
If a live-action Digimon movie would ever happen, then I would want it to be like Digimon Seekers.
I dunno about a movie, but what about a TV series?
I was pretty frustrated with Seekers when it came out. So much to that it was the the last drop of motivation I needed to accept I had to write some sort of original fanfic digimon story. However, this video makes me want to wait for someone to do a dramatic retelling of Seekers on YT - something actually pleasant to engage with, as a study case.
Now that I think about it, Cory, wouldn't you be interested in doing? Something like Comicstorian, or just a general story breakdown and analysis? I'd be very down to listen to you!
Apparently the epilogue of digimon seeker will be posted on march 10th this review is in fact not complete review
There is a fan translation for seekers however its for the first 2 parts, they didn't continue afterward for unknown reasons but I do recommend looking into it if you wanna start reading it
NEXT VID WILL BE BEYBLADE PART 2
I would also include Appmon in the category of Digimon stories more focused about humanity’s relationship with technology
Yeah I do name drop Appmon later in the video, calling it one of the best Digimon stories of the modern era (2015 onwards). But I know what part you're talking about and could have mentioned it there too. @@johncosco2348
Yesss let’s go more beyblade
Great video as always. I heard a lot of bad media about seekers, and you summed up the whole project very well in 11 mins. It looks great, but suffers from digimon's lack of effort or forward thought in many areas
Wow. Now I really want to check this out
Ok I wasn’t exactly convinced but you managed to sway me into reading it. Though I can say that I see DS as a bonafide anime. Honestly I’d skip (much to my utterly shattered heart) Ghost Game and give this a proper media it deserves.
The epilouge has been released
Is DMIA is like Eden Syndrome from Cyber-Sleuth? I read the first part & gave up too. I'll have to check out the last 3 parts, thanks!
It's been a while since I played Cyber Sleuth but I think it's similar!
@@thedigiknow thanks! & You were right about the last 3 parts of Seekers, so much easier to read.
Speaking of CyberSleuth, if you want your Digimon fix in what's looking like a slow year for the franchise, there are unbelievably talented modders that have added another 500 Digimon from ReArise, New Century, etc to the complete edition on Steam. Well worth checking out at least.
It was the prose for me. Not only the clear automatic translation issues (even though they did seem to be reviewed by a human later?) but that fact that you can't tell who is talking to who 50% of the time, or that sometimes they just... narrate the same thing a character just said out loud. Maybe it works better as audio, but I don't know. Otherwise, the story wasn't actually bad at all, even though the premise and tone aren't exactly my cup of tea. I really liked Chapter 4.
This should have been an anime or a game.
I'm just saying, if we had a consistent UA-cam channel that did the audio book reading in English, I think it would have gotten more popular.
Perhaps! That sure sounds like something the DIGIMON IP HOLDERS should have produced, and not left to the fans, though ;P
(plus, you don't want me doing an audio drama production! I'm not an actor, me doing the voices would be terrible haha everyone would sound the same. The men, the women, the Digimon haha)
@thedigiknow oh no, I didn't mean you in particular, but the fact that there were a few digimon YTs that started and dropped it. But also yes the digimon Corp should have done it themselves
Yeah those channels probably paused because it's a lot of work for an individual.
My hope is that Digimon announces an English equivalent of the Japan only audio versions. I would promote that! @@xerocloud3849
DMIA reminds of some consquences from beyond the blackwall of cyberpunk or the .hack franchise
I might give digimon seekers a try, I like the design of the main digimon, which is a big factor to me when trying to approach digimon stuff.
Sadly, chapter one, even with a fixed translation, felt so stale, boring and a repetition of what we have to always do. We always have to reintroduce them, we have to rediscover digimon, re explain them, re retcon, and I haven't read further more yet, but im sure the digital world is about to expload (and probably the real world too) like every weekend.
The MC felt quite.m boring to me, and the fact that the first chapters try so hard to sell me on how poooooor he is but he is actually smaaaart felt so annoying.
And my main thing with digimon seekers is if digimon are actual characters. Something I always hated about digimon is how they are just tools. They are villain, they are partners they are whatever the plot needs, but they almost never become fully realized characters like the human, especially if they are partner digimon.
So, I always feel there is a huge disconnect with "digimon are real and they are sentient" with what the writers (or gameplay) actually use them for.
ure so real about the digimon part 😂thats why my favourite movie is x-evolution because honestly we DESERVE digimon-only media
Without going into spoilers, I thought the ending could have been better. We are getting an epilogue, and, unfortunately, Seekers feels incomplete without it (which isn’t the job of an epilogue). Part 3 was certainly the most interesting part though, and I found that so fascinating that I had a hard time caring about Eiji afterward. It also didn’t help that part 1 is so awkwardly translated that his personality and relationships established then don’t feel properly set up. Like, there were parts of step 4 where it seemed like they were doing a callback to part 1 that didn’t come through the translation to me.
Honestly, Digimon Seekers wasn't a bad idea but I think the manga format wasn't the right fit. It would have worked better IMO as a video game or anime or perhaps Live Action.
Still worth a look if you are a Digimon fan though.
Hm, I see, very interesting, I can see where you’re coming from, i hope this Story doesn’t just get left in the dust.
Actually, have we had a True Digimon Adaptation of any kind at this point?
Whoever said "well that's just light novels are" when discussing digimon seekers writing, needs to stop coping. I read light novels in the past that weren't written or translated that well but even they had better grammar skills than Digimon Seekers.
Honestly i said it before and i say it one more time
Seekers should have been Cyber Sleuth 3.
trueeee
I want a live action or atleast a Digimon Seekers anime
Sounds cool.I just wished that more Digimon content was available in English. If they did an anime dub, I would totally watch it.
Man. Seekers was weird. Like you I loved the more adult approach to Digimon, but I lost interest in it quickly. My main problem being the drip feeding. Would have preferred a finish project or at least larger parts released.
I kinda wish I stuck with it as I like what I read, eh, I might go back and read all of it at some point.
On that last point where you were talking about a narrated podcast with a bit of production put into it. I was actually doing that for a bit at the start. Unfortunately, life just got busy, and I put it down.
I really hope there's a fan translation at some point if there isn't ready one. I just couldn't get through the first chapter
I liked the concept but got bored of the first set. I'll see if I can give the next chapter another read.
I hope they collect it as a prose novel or adapt it as an anime/video game because its sounds pretty cool.
I'm just bitter that i had to wait this long for this to be over in the hopes they'll make a new anime
Should of been a tokusatsu... Like Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Ultraman, Godzilla, or Garou...
Oh yea Seekers was a thing, guess now is a better time than any to go back and try reading it again.
😢 i agree with your take. I couldn't get past the first couple parts of chapter one reading it was just a pain. I found a couple channels doing their own voice work for it but they were slow/poorly done too.. would have loved an english audio version
Yeah, digimon seeker do need get better, they did ended on cliffhanger on end of chapter 4 poorly, where they will still fighting death-x-mon
It not complete their literally a epilogue coming out all they did was take month hiatus with a announcement
The epilogue coming out march 10
@@michaelliggett1622 why did they put word “finish” at end chapter 4-12, if still incomplete.
@@sandstorm200 idk but march10 is when the epilogue released
Any chance Ghost Game will get a dub?
That already happening it was announced a while back
@@michaelliggett1622 nice!
this thing was a show?
It would've been great as a live action Netflix show maybe
So yeah o love It, but o get it from a fan translation to spanish, no oficial form of gettin it in my languaje
It'd be nice if many of these concepts got into a future digimon series someday. The lackluster translation is pushing me away from reading Seekers.
Seekers is so good it deserves a anime or a game based around it
Although i saw you cover this was the next big thing. I have no idea what this is or how to watch it. Is it a manga, a web comic, a online thing? And anime? Where do i even go to see this?
It a webnovel on the official digimon website
I can't get past the graphics. Its very 90's, but not in a good way
I still see an adult version of digimon to have elements of Palworld and Cyber-punk. They should have blood and survival used in the world building.
🦶🦵
I mentioned before last year when Ghost game concluded that Seekers was going to be a huge letdown one way or another. Seekers should have been an anime or a sequel to Ghost Game anime have taken the spot instead of Great Mission which after 46 episodes just still feels bland as hell and its the same slow pace as Ghost game when it comes to the more important story beats.
I am growing tired of such slow crawl storytelling from a either a story such as Seekers and the show Great Mission that promotes the vital bracelet while everything else just feels generic. Because of this, there is nothing to make it stand out instead of just having another Digimon Series like we should have to fill the void last year and the Seekers format doesn't make logical sense as the next step in digimon storytelling when told the way it was with not much care put into it.
Part of me feels Adventure 2020's misuse of Omegamon and early as hell Ultimate/Perfects made everything related to the Vital Bracelet obnoxiously slow to the point where most big story beats don't feel satisfying. Tamers and Savers/Data Squad accelerated to Perfects/Ultimates in the early 10s and managed to be reasonable shows. Even Frontier with Beast Spirits were reasonably handled.
A "complete review of Digimon Seekers" posted before Seekers actually ends. What time travel trickery is this? Not that 1 chapter will likely make a difference, but still kinda weird to act like "all but the last page" is somehow "complete". Especially when it does end in just a few days, anyway.
From what I understand no it been complete for awhile their been no chapter update for weeks now
@@michaelliggett1622 They took a month off. The epilogue chapter is releasing this weekend. They announced this last month when the previous chapter released.
Seekers has some pacing issues too. Chapter 3 being a long ass flashback almost took me out of it. Also the final boss was underwhelming.
It also not complete as the epilogue comes out on march 10
@@michaelliggett1622I'm aware.
I love that its a grown-up characters, no children, it looks like they're mainly targeting older fan base, which is much appreciated...
I'm glad at least one 90's franchise is acknowledging/respecting that their original fanbase is getting older. We don't expect the stories to start having SA and murder and the like but the darker themes are welcome.