Karn i post this on every video i watch, but upon re watching date squad and the movies, their is actually common villain in the data squad movie and the adventure 2020 series. And i think it should be talked about cause no one is talking about it anywhere!
Sephirothmon is base on the Kabbalah diagram of god (from most divine to most earthly aspects ), so no he isn’t base on the biblical accurate angels. Also if you need something for god evolution line he is an option
taking into account that there are digimon products that place blackseraphimon as double-spirit of steel, it is not strange to imagine a relationship between digi-spirit of steel and the crest of hope,so patamon kind make sense
Upon hearing, "We need an Ancient Angemon t round these out." Made me realize how much I desire a video of giving Ancient Varients to existing Digimon. Since it would be interesting to see which Digimon would be given Ancient variants.
Touched on the Sephirothmon connection to have Patamon as the rookie, but another really cool connection for AncientWisemon to have a Patamon rookie is, Mecrury absorbed Seraphimon's data to make ShadowSeraphimon. Heck, that was the whole reason there was a Patamon in frontier. The spirits of steel are more tied to Patamon's line then one may initially think.
Was in the process of watching a few of your videos and I was like “oh I have never seen this thumbnail in my recommended! Must be a hidden gem” come to find out it’s been out for 10 mins 😂😂
Something really cool you could also do for the Ancientsphinxmon line, is to evoke the corrupted darkness spirits and still referencing digimon adventure by having it digivolve from Skullknightmon and Axeknightmon
This was a lot of fun! I enjoyed seeing the Adventure references! It made me want to see Ancient Digimon for the rest of the Adventure Megas! Especially when you mentioned AncientAngemon. That would rule!
Honestly for AncientMegatheriumon (don't know if I wrote it right) as a champion Moosemon would make much sense, they're both inspired on horned herbivores. Also I think Soloogarmon would fit in-between garurumon and AncientGarurumon. Great video tho, keep it up man
Love these lines! Personally, for AncientSphinxmon, I prefer Salamon to Dobermon to Cerberusmon to AncientSphinxmon, as it feels more connected to me, but nefertimon to bastemon works as well
I really like the idea of using the X antibodies where available, since so many of them feel very primal and feral. Even without them though, a lot of these feel like they could have been a curated line all along.
for AncientGreymon I like to use Veedramon (Red), ultimate could be a fire variant of AeroVeedramon with flaming wings much like AncientGreymon. New Order did a similar thing with red Veedramon evolving from Shoutmon, then Agunimon was it's ultimate and EmperorGreymon the mega.
Patamon and AncientWisemon also have connection through Frontier since Mercurymon used Seraphimon’s fractal code to become ShadowSeraphimon and that Sepharimon obviously started out as Patamon.
Great video as always! an idea i would like to see in a video is 02 partners using "digi spirits" instead of armors. For example instead of the digiegg of courage, V-mon would use the fire spirit. idk i think it would be cool
I shall always love anything that is fire-related, which is why I love the Greymon line and by extension the Greymon-related Digimon present in other series like Frontier. I'm a fireboy at heart. I can't help it. P.S. still waiting on top 10 Digivice redux.
Really wish they used the Ten Ancient Warriors more outside of Frontier related media. I will say the new take on AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon in the TCG is really cool, with the modern heirs being able to temporarily manifest them as evolutions, or fully bring them to life by recombining the human and beast spirits via Digi-Xros. Hope all the Ten Warriors get this treatment.
So this begs the question, were Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon around during the Ancient days? Or do they also have Ancient digimon they hail from?
Since Frontier as a series took inspiration from Adventure while trying to do its own separate thing, it makes a lot of thematic sense for the Ancient digimon, who drive its worldbuilding, to have a connection to Adventure as well
It’s wild that there are ancient versions of Digimon that don’t have modern versions (for lack of a better term). These lines were really good, especially the ones for the dark squad
RizeGreymon reminded me of an idea I had about merging branch digivolutions that are clearly part of the same family but distinct in their own right, like a merged Metal/RizeGreymon or Lilymon/Lilamon.
RizeGreymon X also has part of EmperorGreymon in the design. With part of the sword / dragonfire crossbow’s hilt serving as the revolver & gun hammer of RizeGreymon’s gun arm. Fun facts.
Since you commented of explosions regarding Volcamon and AncientVolcanomon I thought BomberNanimon would be a great champion for Volcanomon for a few reasons like both being meta-references and BomberNanimon/Nanimon kinda looking like Volcano Ota himself a bit and that on Digimon Story: Super Xros Wars AncientVolcamon is a fusion of Volcamon, BomberNanimon, Vermilimon and Meteormon (and in Digimon World Data Squad Meteormon is a Rookie so I guess it could be the pre-evo for BomberNanimon?) As usual to say my thoughts if you were to consider Ancient Digimon above Mega then CresGarurumon would definitely fit as a sword-using Garurumon. Harpymon also fits as a champion for Silphymon if you want the bird-woman vibes but there isn't really any reason to deviate
I think these all work. I do agree with not using the spirits for the pre-evos and I also do see them as the ancients as the parents of the spirits so what you doing here it's not a big deal.
I like the idea of the 02 partners ending in Ancient megas, given that they were mentioned to be "ancient" digimon when we met them. AncientMegatheriumon feels like an ideal mega for Armadillomon. AncientTroiamon from Pegasusmon just feels right, too. Flamedramon into AncientGreymon or even AncientVolcamon flows pretty naturally. The outlier is sadly Wormmon as AncientBeetle loses the humanoid features of Stingmon.
Ultimate Battle Deck 4 did a lot of these evo-lines, except AncientIrismon and AncientSphinxmon. Some offered two Ultimates; MegaKabuterimon (Either Version) & Okuwamon for AncientBeetlemon, Paildramon (for some reason) & Mummymon for AncientSphinxmon, Volcamon & Meteormon for AncientVolcamon and Zudomon & Dagomon for AncientMegatheriumon. AncientIrismon used both Zephyrmon and Kazemon for its and AncientMermaimon used Ranamon for its second while AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon just used MetalGreymon and WereGarurumon.
Wonderful picks as always, but I feel like you don't have to force yourself to squeeze Gatomon and Patamon into the lines since they're already in the Three Celestials of Frontier, representing the Successors to the Ancient Digimon in the same way that TK and Kari continue into 02's Successor team. So Mirrormon can be proudly put as Ancientwisemon's rookie.
Nice one as usually, I always learn about new degimon form video like this one. About sphirothmon it really resembles something called sefirot from the Jewish kabala probably something more.
I really like Gotsumon surprisingly evolving into Meramon and then reclaiming its rocky core as Volcamon. Keeps a Bipedal Elemental Man thing going through the whole line as well. Syakomon is a nice Water rookie, but given the Adventure 1 theme you got going for nearly every other line I think Betamon works better, it and Otamamon are my headcanon original base Water Digimons
I like Mammothmon as a prevo for AncientMegatheriumon and for the rookie I like Tapirmon, since when you look at it Tapirmon has a lot of similarity with Mammothmon in its design: both have tusks, their ears have a similar form, both have their heads covered by a metal plate with a similar symbol on it and they have a similar color scheme. For the champion I like either Goatmon or Moosemon to keep it a quadrupedal mammal and I like armor, but Baluchimon or Yukidarumon could also work.
My (dumb) ideas, as I try to avoid spirit digimon or digimon like Mermaimon and Volcamon and any references to Adventure: Dracomon - Tyranomon - Megadramon - Ancient Greymon; Labramon - Gaogamon - Caturamon - Ancient Garurumon; Kunemon - Digmon - Metallife Kuwagamon - Ancient Beatmon; Muchomon - Swanmon - Sirenmon - Ancient Irismon; Snow Goblimon - Hyogamon - Mammothmon - Ancient Megatheriumon; Gotsumon - Golemon - Gogmamon - Ancient Volcamon; Betamon - Shellmon - Thetismon - Ancient Mermaimon; Kotemon - Yaksamon - Ajataramon - Ancient Troiamon; Ghostmon - Wizardmon - Mistymon - Ancient Wisemon.
I'm comfortable leaving Patamon & Plotmon/Salamon out of the Ancient lines since they're prevos for the Great Angels. Liollmon would be a good alternate prevo for Ancient Sphinxmon to keep up the lion/cat aesthetic.
My line for ancient Volcanimon is typically Gotsumon, to Icemon, to Meteormon, and then ending in Ancient Volcanimon... but that's just me liking the Gotsumon line just palletswapping until finally we end in ancient Volcanimon... man I wish there was a 4th pallet swap for Gotsumon at the mega level...
Golemon does have four small volcanoes on his back, so does PileVolcamon, which you can see more often in the Cyber Slueth games so I think it does fit with Ancient Volcamon as part of its line. And in the card game there are some Purple/Yellow Wizardmon cards and the only Wisemon card is Purple/Black while Ancient Wisemon is just black. So that means it is possible for Patamon to become Ancient Wisemon, in the card game at least. Maybe in the future they’ll make a Yellow and Purple Angemon card to represent him possibly evolving into a demon Digimon like Neo Devimon or in this video case Wisemon instead of Magna Angemon.
I got an idea for a line for AncientIrismon: What if we went Biyomon to Darcmon to piximon (not super sold on that pick) to AncientIrismon Just an idea I thought was kinda cool.
Personally, my Ancient Sphinxmon line would more follow the Lion motif rather than the Egyptian theme, with Leomon and Loader Leomon as the Champion and Ultimate forms, the latter being due to the quadrupedal stance and heavy armor. With the Rookie, I like using Gazimon to loop back into the 'darkness' theme, but Liollmon as the rookie to keep with the lion theming would work too.
The only thing I don't like about using RiseGreymon is it feels to.... futurestic.... I like that idea you said with DoruGreymon, but like you hinted to we all know it's not a Greymon unfortunately. But the only decision would be Metal Greymon and RiseGreymon. I guess we can put Rise here because Metal Greymon just looks weird here lol
I think Patamon > Angemon > Wisemon > AncientWisemon works perfectly well! Angemon could have "fallen" because it became a bit gluttonous in pursuit of knowledge. AncientWisemon is it tempering that gluttony to use that knowledge "wisely". Wisemon has wings itself (or at least its head scarf ends in wings). My personal line for AncientWisemon is Bokomon > Publimon > Wisemon > AncientWisemon.
For patamon, interestingly enough black seraphimon is considered the fusion spirit for both human and beast metal spirit of the ancient warriors. So it's actually not too much of a stretch to see that patamon could become ancient Wiseman
AncientIrismon honestly gives me much more butterfly/fairy vibes than bird vibes. Morphomon to Hudiemon to Eosmon could work for it although I know that there might be lore reasons why that doesn't really work. So alternatively you could do Tinkermon to Butterflymon to Pixiemon for it. I also think Oryxmon makes way too much sense as an Ancientmeguttheriamon prevo.
I'll admit that I would've thought of the ancient Earth spirit being connected to Veemon. I know there's the fire stuff, but there's something about the ancient Earth Digimon that seems like you could make a loose connection to Flamedramon. Or, if using Volcanomon, there's a V on it.
I am curious about taking Frontiers Ancient Digimon splitting into a Human and Beast spirit. I think it would be totally cool to see the Mega levels from different seasons be split into Human and Beast spirits. Probably not custom art, as that would be expensive, and besides I am more curious what already existing Digimon you would choose for some Digimon.
I agree to most of the list besides Ancient Sphinxmon. There I think a better evolution Line would be: Liollmon - Mad Leomon - Skull Baluchimon - Ancient Sphinxmon
Hmm, this is a thought inspired by the Greymon line here but, wouldn't AncientGreymon be the original Greymon? As in, it would have just be THE first digimon to be called Greymon, just 'megalevel', before eventually being renamed to 'AncientGreymon' when it's code later turned up in the modern 'Greymon' line. A bit of overthinking digimon history and evolution I suppose XD
Alt idea for ancient megatheumon , armour to moosemon to mamothmon to ancient megatherimon Have no idea for the rookie( maybe tapirmon but I can't think of any) Edit: petition to rename ancient beetlemon yo ancient kabuterimon
Hey Karn!! Some interesting video ideas for you. What if the Adventure 1 digimon received burst mode? What if the Adventure 1 mega digimon had beast/human forms? Like Seraphimon to Goldramon or Ophanimon to Magnadramon, etc...
You brought it up with AncientMegatheriumon, but it feels wrong that it doesn't evolve from Vikemon. Two options I thought of were, unsurprisingly, a slide evo or that the Ancient digimon could be "beyond mega", kinda like how Omnimon's level 7 in the card game despite being a mega. Vikemon into AncientMeg is nice visually, but they also look like they could be the human/beast slide evos for each other.
Miss opportunity to use Jellymon - Teslajellymon - Mermaimon - Ancientmermamon Do love the Gomamon -Ikakumon - Mammothmon - AncientMegatheriummon From full walking on land to semi aquatic
Mercuremon does have an inherent connection to the Patamon to Seraphimon line since in Frontier scanned Seraphimon's data to digivolve into BlackSeraphimon, and also digivolving with the Beast Spirit of Steel to Sephirothmon. It'd be really interesting if the Seraphimon of the Three Archangels is a descendant of AncientWisemon, since he reincarnates into an digiegg that hatches into Patamon. Cherubimon did make Mercuremon with the Human Spirit of Steel, so what if he manipulated a Patamon to digivolve into Mercuremon with the Human Spirit of Steel?
Patamon > Oryxmon > Pajiramon > AncientMegatheriummon or Pilomon > Sheepmon or Oryxmon > Pajiramon > AncientMegatheriummon could work too For AncientWisemon, Hagurumon is round and made of metal, and since AncientWisemon is the Ancient legendary warrior of steel, and polished metal is mirror-like, Hagurumon could be a great Rookie, then maybe Clockmon (either form) to keep the round metal theme going. Clockmon has been a pre-evo to Wisemon in some games too, plus Wisemon is a space-time Digimon (time, clock, Clockmon), so could tie in really nicely.
Sephirotmon very much takes inspiration in its name and design from the Sefirot of Jewish Kabbala, so the angel connection is a lot stronger than one would initially think
I always just accepted the spirits as part of the Ancient Digimon's evolution lines. They have that visual cohesion already to just be part of the actual evolution line. The real question is though what level would they be if they were part of a more traditional evolution line? Kind of like how Rapidmon is also an Ultimate level Digimon when he isn't being used as an Armor and I think a few of the other Armors were reclassified as traditional evolution as well so what would each of the Frontier Digimon be if they ever got reclassified in the same way? Flamemon is actually classified as a Rookie level Digimon so I think it's pretty safe to assume that Human Spirits would be equivalent to Champion. From there things get more difficult because there are a 4 evolutions between Rookie and Mega rather than only 2. The Beast Spirits I think since they act as slide evolutions that are on the same level as human rather than a stage above human would also be Champion level Digimon. Fusion evolutions actually feel like a stage up from Human and Beast combining the strength of both so I'm going to go ahead and call that an Ultimate level. Unified again feels like a step up from Fusion evolution combining other elements into the evolution so I'm going to call that a Mega. However I think the Ancient Digimon would either be the natural evolution from Fusion without introducing other elements into the mix or could be a slide evolution remaining at the same level. This does however leave gaps in the evolution lines since not everyone has a canon Fusion or Unified evolution.
I hate Gotsumon as a prevo for Monochromon (Because I love rhinos and I believe it deserves a more animalistic prevo) but as a rookie for AncienctVolcanomon, I think Gotsumon is a must. It is just such a classic Digimon.
I love the ancient digimon. Ancient Greymon is my favorite greymon. My decision on it would be Augumon X then go to geogreymon cause the x antibody changes it from usual greymon then rise greymon then ancient greymon cause they x antibody can be a gateway for it to get into its ancient dna. So im happy karn agrees
I have exactly one nitpick with the lines in this video. Blacktailmon instead of Tailmon for the alternate to Nefertimon for Ancientsphinxmon. Just to tie things together more cohesively. Also Ancientmermaimon works with shakkoumon as a survive reference.
Having the Legendary Warriors be "Ultra" level makes their status even higher having ascended past Mega however all the ultimates that flow into them is also a fair point. I like all these lines but hear me out, Kokuwamon->Kuwagamon->MegaKabuterimon(blue)->AncientBeetlemon, breaking each aspect of the Legendary Warrior's design into each of its prior stages.
I get the Nefertimon ancient Egypt connection but I think visually for a spirit of darkness line it should have Black Gatomon in there somewhere. It could be the Rookie but it is a Champion more often than not.
These were all good choices and here is what I think their evolutions would be as I think I would atleast use one of the ancient spirits 1, Agumon to Greymon to Burning Greymon to AncientGreymon 2, Gabumon to Garurumon to KendoGarurumon to Ancientgarurumon 3, Biyomon to Aquliamon to Zephyrmon to Ancientirismon 4, Kokabuterimon to Beetlemon to Mega Kabuterimon Blue to AncientBeetlemon 5, Gommon to Ikakkumon to Korikakumon to Ancientmegatheriummon 6, Salamon to Blackgatomon to JeagerLoweemon to AncientSphinxmon 7, Sunrizamon to Grumblemon to Volcanomon to AncientVolcanomon 8, Jellymon to Ranamon to Mermaidmon to AncientMermaidmon 9, Palmon to Armourmon to Cherrymon to AncientTrojiamon 10, Mirrormon to Mercurymon to Wisemon to AncientWisemon.
If the Ancients are Ultra I think Cres Garurumon would be a better pre-evolution for Ancient Garurumon because of the knightliness and the swords. Blitz Greymon could also work for Ancient Greymon since the red color and ranged blasts
HAPPY EASTER, NOTIFICATION SQUAD! I'm really on my Frontier kick at the moment so of COURSE Ancient Warriors evolution lines had to come out haha
Karn i post this on every video i watch, but upon re watching date squad and the movies, their is actually common villain in the data squad movie and the adventure 2020 series. And i think it should be talked about cause no one is talking about it anywhere!
Like Argomon being the villain in the data squad movie and the main villain of adventure 2020, i personally find it intriguing
Sephirothmon is base on the Kabbalah diagram of god (from most divine to most earthly aspects ), so no he isn’t base on the biblical accurate angels.
Also if you need something for god evolution line he is an option
Keep the Frontier content coming
taking into account that there are digimon products that place blackseraphimon as double-spirit of steel, it is not strange to imagine a relationship between digi-spirit of steel and the crest of hope,so patamon kind make sense
Upon hearing, "We need an Ancient Angemon t round these out." Made me realize how much I desire a video of giving Ancient Varients to existing Digimon. Since it would be interesting to see which Digimon would be given Ancient variants.
Might just work on that 👀
@@Karn_EX Ancient Cherrymon being a massive forest on par with something like Eldoradimon would be crazy 😮
Could be that just as there are Ancient Digimon for elements there are Ancient Digimon for Virtues (crests).
Ancient Saraphimon
@@Karn_EXYeah that's a terrific suggestion.
Touched on the Sephirothmon connection to have Patamon as the rookie, but another really cool connection for AncientWisemon to have a Patamon rookie is, Mecrury absorbed Seraphimon's data to make ShadowSeraphimon. Heck, that was the whole reason there was a Patamon in frontier. The spirits of steel are more tied to Patamon's line then one may initially think.
Oooh excellent pull!
I always thought Tsukaimon would make a perfect BlackSeraphimon child with Mercurymon and Sephirothmon between because of the purple wings
@@couchpotato3197 also being a green metallic evil angel
Was in the process of watching a few of your videos and I was like “oh I have never seen this thumbnail in my recommended! Must be a hidden gem” come to find out it’s been out for 10 mins 😂😂
Hahahaha thanks for watching some older vids, hope you enjoy this new one!
@Karn_EX sometimes I get in a mood and just go back and re binge your videos
2:49 I didn't think about it but the X Anti body greymon line works for Ancient Greymon
The X Antibody is definitely ancient enough
Honestly my only problem with Risegreymon for the ancient greymon is the fact it’s to “Modern” with the gun on its arm. But that’s just my opinion
Something really cool you could also do for the Ancientsphinxmon line, is to evoke the corrupted darkness spirits and still referencing digimon adventure by having it digivolve from Skullknightmon and Axeknightmon
I love Mirrormon as an AncientWisemon prevo, but yeah you gotta throw Patamon a bone lmao
This was a lot of fun! I enjoyed seeing the Adventure references! It made me want to see Ancient Digimon for the rest of the Adventure Megas! Especially when you mentioned AncientAngemon. That would rule!
Thank you! Yeah I think that might be an upcoming custom art haha
Honestly for AncientMegatheriumon (don't know if I wrote it right) as a champion Moosemon would make much sense, they're both inspired on horned herbivores. Also I think Soloogarmon would fit in-between garurumon and AncientGarurumon. Great video tho, keep it up man
Absolutely enjoying the love you are giving the Frontier digimon
HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE hope everyone has a good day now let's enjoy some ancient evolutions
Love these lines! Personally, for AncientSphinxmon, I prefer Salamon to Dobermon to Cerberusmon to AncientSphinxmon, as it feels more connected to me, but nefertimon to bastemon works as well
I really like the idea of using the X antibodies where available, since so many of them feel very primal and feral. Even without them though, a lot of these feel like they could have been a curated line all along.
Happy 🐣 Karn EX!
Bring on The Ancient Digimon.
for AncientGreymon I like to use Veedramon (Red), ultimate could be a fire variant of AeroVeedramon with flaming wings much like AncientGreymon. New Order did a similar thing with red Veedramon evolving from Shoutmon, then Agunimon was it's ultimate and EmperorGreymon the mega.
This was an awesome video. Love Mammothmon for Ancientmegatheriummon!
Patamon and AncientWisemon also have connection through Frontier since Mercurymon used Seraphimon’s fractal code to become ShadowSeraphimon and that Sepharimon obviously started out as Patamon.
Some of your video involving drawing new digimon is so cool it looks fun to do!!
Great video as always! an idea i would like to see in a video is 02 partners using "digi spirits" instead of armors. For example instead of the digiegg of courage, V-mon would use the fire spirit. idk i think it would be cool
Loved all of these, especially Palmon into woodmon tickles my brain right haha,
Haha cheers bud
Love the video, great lines, poor Patamon lol. Happy Easter!
Thanks! You too!
I shall always love anything that is fire-related, which is why I love the Greymon line and by extension the Greymon-related Digimon present in other series like Frontier.
I'm a fireboy at heart. I can't help it.
P.S. still waiting on top 10 Digivice redux.
AncientVolcamon line goes HARD hard.
Woo! Meramon mentioned!
Really wish they used the Ten Ancient Warriors more outside of Frontier related media. I will say the new take on AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon in the TCG is really cool, with the modern heirs being able to temporarily manifest them as evolutions, or fully bring them to life by recombining the human and beast spirits via Digi-Xros. Hope all the Ten Warriors get this treatment.
Amazing video 1000/1000
Wow, thanks!
I felt so validated when you used Silphymon as the pre-evo for AncientIrismon! Also the Gotsumon pic, get out of my brain Karn! Also more wood!?!? 😁😏
Yessssss syakomon finally getting a shout out
Well a question I had at the back of my mind just got answered regarding the ancient warriors
Patreon definitely has great wood 😂 go support the boy for me! Thank you karn much love my dude!
Hahaha appreciate ya buddy
If I were to use AncientGarurumon as an Ultra level, I'd have him Digivolve from CresGarurumon, it just fits so much more than MetalGarurumon imo
Happy Easter everyone
Great video
Thanks!
It's Another Frontier Videos, Thank You For Not doing it a April Fool's Joke!!!
So this begs the question, were Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon around during the Ancient days? Or do they also have Ancient digimon they hail from?
Great now this makes me want to see custom art lines for these digimon.
Since Frontier as a series took inspiration from Adventure while trying to do its own separate thing, it makes a lot of thematic sense for the Ancient digimon, who drive its worldbuilding, to have a connection to Adventure as well
It’s wild that there are ancient versions of Digimon that don’t have modern versions (for lack of a better term). These lines were really good, especially the ones for the dark squad
Got to say, the Mammothmon inclusion, and AncientMermimon and Ancientvolcamon lines have to be my favourite here.
Hm, how very interesting, nicely done.
I wonder which you’ll give Evolution-lines to next?
Have a series where the "Ancient Warriors" are the bad guys. Like with Data Squad did with the Royal Knights.
Would be lit
RizeGreymon reminded me of an idea I had about merging branch digivolutions that are clearly part of the same family but distinct in their own right, like a merged Metal/RizeGreymon or Lilymon/Lilamon.
Does anyone else like to think they didn't have Ancient in their names during their time period?
i feel like a good easter video would've been something digi egg related.
also Happy Easter everyone, remember, Gabumon died for your sins!
RizeGreymon X also has part of EmperorGreymon in the design. With part of the sword / dragonfire crossbow’s hilt serving as the revolver & gun hammer of RizeGreymon’s gun arm. Fun facts.
Since you commented of explosions regarding Volcamon and AncientVolcanomon I thought BomberNanimon would be a great champion for Volcanomon for a few reasons like both being meta-references and BomberNanimon/Nanimon kinda looking like Volcano Ota himself a bit and that on Digimon Story: Super Xros Wars AncientVolcamon is a fusion of Volcamon, BomberNanimon, Vermilimon and Meteormon (and in Digimon World Data Squad Meteormon is a Rookie so I guess it could be the pre-evo for BomberNanimon?)
As usual to say my thoughts if you were to consider Ancient Digimon above Mega then CresGarurumon would definitely fit as a sword-using Garurumon. Harpymon also fits as a champion for Silphymon if you want the bird-woman vibes but there isn't really any reason to deviate
I think these all work. I do agree with not using the spirits for the pre-evos and I also do see them as the ancients as the parents of the spirits so what you doing here it's not a big deal.
I like the idea of the 02 partners ending in Ancient megas, given that they were mentioned to be "ancient" digimon when we met them. AncientMegatheriumon feels like an ideal mega for Armadillomon. AncientTroiamon from Pegasusmon just feels right, too. Flamedramon into AncientGreymon or even AncientVolcamon flows pretty naturally. The outlier is sadly Wormmon as AncientBeetle loses the humanoid features of Stingmon.
10:08 Not to mention that whole thing with Mercurymon using Seraphimon’s data to make Black Seraphimon
Ultimate Battle Deck 4 did a lot of these evo-lines, except AncientIrismon and AncientSphinxmon. Some offered two Ultimates; MegaKabuterimon (Either Version) & Okuwamon for AncientBeetlemon, Paildramon (for some reason) & Mummymon for AncientSphinxmon, Volcamon & Meteormon for AncientVolcamon and Zudomon & Dagomon for AncientMegatheriumon. AncientIrismon used both Zephyrmon and Kazemon for its and AncientMermaimon used Ranamon for its second while AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon just used MetalGreymon and WereGarurumon.
Wonderful picks as always, but I feel like you don't have to force yourself to squeeze Gatomon and Patamon into the lines since they're already in the Three Celestials of Frontier, representing the Successors to the Ancient Digimon in the same way that TK and Kari continue into 02's Successor team. So Mirrormon can be proudly put as Ancientwisemon's rookie.
Maybe an idea? What if the Ancient Warriors had Modern Forms? Like they were reborn in new bodies.
Nice one as usually, I always learn about new degimon form video like this one.
About sphirothmon it really resembles something called sefirot from the Jewish kabala probably something more.
That's the intent yep! Its design is the Kaballah tree
What digimon would match well with a digidestaned whose element is darkness
I really like Gotsumon surprisingly evolving into Meramon and then reclaiming its rocky core as Volcamon. Keeps a Bipedal Elemental Man thing going through the whole line as well.
Syakomon is a nice Water rookie, but given the Adventure 1 theme you got going for nearly every other line I think Betamon works better, it and Otamamon are my headcanon original base Water Digimons
I like Mammothmon as a prevo for AncientMegatheriumon and for the rookie I like Tapirmon, since when you look at it Tapirmon has a lot of similarity with Mammothmon in its design: both have tusks, their ears have a similar form, both have their heads covered by a metal plate with a similar symbol on it and they have a similar color scheme. For the champion I like either Goatmon or Moosemon to keep it a quadrupedal mammal and I like armor, but Baluchimon or Yukidarumon could also work.
My (dumb) ideas, as I try to avoid spirit digimon or digimon like Mermaimon and Volcamon and any references to Adventure:
Dracomon - Tyranomon - Megadramon - Ancient Greymon;
Labramon - Gaogamon - Caturamon - Ancient Garurumon;
Kunemon - Digmon - Metallife Kuwagamon - Ancient Beatmon;
Muchomon - Swanmon - Sirenmon - Ancient Irismon;
Snow Goblimon - Hyogamon - Mammothmon - Ancient Megatheriumon;
Gotsumon - Golemon - Gogmamon - Ancient Volcamon;
Betamon - Shellmon - Thetismon - Ancient Mermaimon;
Kotemon - Yaksamon - Ajataramon - Ancient Troiamon;
Ghostmon - Wizardmon - Mistymon - Ancient Wisemon.
I'm comfortable leaving Patamon & Plotmon/Salamon out of the Ancient lines since they're prevos for the Great Angels. Liollmon would be a good alternate prevo for Ancient Sphinxmon to keep up the lion/cat aesthetic.
My line for ancient Volcanimon is typically Gotsumon, to Icemon, to Meteormon, and then ending in Ancient Volcanimon... but that's just me liking the Gotsumon line just palletswapping until finally we end in ancient Volcanimon... man I wish there was a 4th pallet swap for Gotsumon at the mega level...
God I love Frontiers. Used to play with my Bionicles as if they were the spirits. Video idea???
Did you ever do one of these for V-Tamer 01? I swear you did a video about V-Tamer but I don't remember an evolution line one...
I haven't really no, I don't know if it would perform well tbh
Golemon does have four small volcanoes on his back, so does PileVolcamon, which you can see more often in the Cyber Slueth games so I think it does fit with Ancient Volcamon as part of its line.
And in the card game there are some Purple/Yellow Wizardmon cards and the only Wisemon card is Purple/Black while Ancient Wisemon is just black. So that means it is possible for Patamon to become Ancient Wisemon, in the card game at least.
Maybe in the future they’ll make a Yellow and Purple Angemon card to represent him possibly evolving into a demon Digimon like Neo Devimon or in this video case Wisemon instead of Magna Angemon.
I got an idea for a line for AncientIrismon: What if we went Biyomon to Darcmon to piximon (not super sold on that pick) to AncientIrismon
Just an idea I thought was kinda cool.
Fun idea!
Cool!
Personally, my Ancient Sphinxmon line would more follow the Lion motif rather than the Egyptian theme, with Leomon and Loader Leomon as the Champion and Ultimate forms, the latter being due to the quadrupedal stance and heavy armor. With the Rookie, I like using Gazimon to loop back into the 'darkness' theme, but Liollmon as the rookie to keep with the lion theming would work too.
The only thing I don't like about using RiseGreymon is it feels to.... futurestic.... I like that idea you said with DoruGreymon, but like you hinted to we all know it's not a Greymon unfortunately. But the only decision would be Metal Greymon and RiseGreymon. I guess we can put Rise here because Metal Greymon just looks weird here lol
Yeah I can appreciate that, I just wanted to kinda represent the various types of Greymon a little bit more
Karn, Terriermon digimental evos other than Destiny
02 "slide jogress" (like Dinobee to Paildra) please
I think Patamon > Angemon > Wisemon > AncientWisemon works perfectly well! Angemon could have "fallen" because it became a bit gluttonous in pursuit of knowledge. AncientWisemon is it tempering that gluttony to use that knowledge "wisely". Wisemon has wings itself (or at least its head scarf ends in wings). My personal line for AncientWisemon is Bokomon > Publimon > Wisemon > AncientWisemon.
For patamon, interestingly enough black seraphimon is considered the fusion spirit for both human and beast metal spirit of the ancient warriors. So it's actually not too much of a stretch to see that patamon could become ancient Wiseman
AncientIrismon honestly gives me much more butterfly/fairy vibes than bird vibes. Morphomon to Hudiemon to Eosmon could work for it although I know that there might be lore reasons why that doesn't really work. So alternatively you could do Tinkermon to Butterflymon to Pixiemon for it. I also think Oryxmon makes way too much sense as an Ancientmeguttheriamon prevo.
Happy Easter, Everyone
Also, what about evo lines for the 7 evil generals from xros wars
Good idea! Probably do that in October :)
technically, we have Gatomon/Salamon & Patamon representation with Seraphimon & Ophanimon, so there's that option.
I'll admit that I would've thought of the ancient Earth spirit being connected to Veemon. I know there's the fire stuff, but there's something about the ancient Earth Digimon that seems like you could make a loose connection to Flamedramon. Or, if using Volcanomon, there's a V on it.
For AncientMermaimon, I kinda like Gomamon to Ikkakumon to Mermaimon. It feels like a selkie shedding her skin to become more human.
I am curious about taking Frontiers Ancient Digimon splitting into a Human and Beast spirit. I think it would be totally cool to see the Mega levels from different seasons be split into Human and Beast spirits. Probably not custom art, as that would be expensive, and besides I am more curious what already existing Digimon you would choose for some Digimon.
I actually came up with a partner line for myself that goes Tapirmon, Baluchimon, Mammothmon, AncientMegatheriummon.
I agree to most of the list besides Ancient Sphinxmon. There I think a better evolution Line would be: Liollmon - Mad Leomon - Skull Baluchimon - Ancient Sphinxmon
Hmm, this is a thought inspired by the Greymon line here but, wouldn't AncientGreymon be the original Greymon? As in, it would have just be THE first digimon to be called Greymon, just 'megalevel', before eventually being renamed to 'AncientGreymon' when it's code later turned up in the modern 'Greymon' line.
A bit of overthinking digimon history and evolution I suppose XD
Alt idea for ancient megatheumon , armour to moosemon to mamothmon to ancient megatherimon
Have no idea for the rookie( maybe tapirmon but I can't think of any)
Edit: petition to rename ancient beetlemon yo ancient kabuterimon
Hey Karn!! Some interesting video ideas for you. What if the Adventure 1 digimon received burst mode? What if the Adventure 1 mega digimon had beast/human forms? Like Seraphimon to Goldramon or Ophanimon to Magnadramon, etc...
You brought it up with AncientMegatheriumon, but it feels wrong that it doesn't evolve from Vikemon. Two options I thought of were, unsurprisingly, a slide evo or that the Ancient digimon could be "beyond mega", kinda like how Omnimon's level 7 in the card game despite being a mega. Vikemon into AncientMeg is nice visually, but they also look like they could be the human/beast slide evos for each other.
Miss opportunity to use
Jellymon - Teslajellymon - Mermaimon - Ancientmermamon
Do love the
Gomamon -Ikakumon - Mammothmon - AncientMegatheriummon
From full walking on land to semi aquatic
I love your videos! And if I may ask you, could you react to some of the german digimon songs and rate them? (Only if you want to of course)
Thank you so much! I would like to but unfortunately UA-cam copyright strikes would probably cause me to lose the channel.
@@Karn_EX What if you just said the names of the songs and rate how you liked them? Would this still count and cause the loss of your channel?
Mercuremon does have an inherent connection to the Patamon to Seraphimon line since in Frontier scanned Seraphimon's data to digivolve into BlackSeraphimon, and also digivolving with the Beast Spirit of Steel to Sephirothmon. It'd be really interesting if the Seraphimon of the Three Archangels is a descendant of AncientWisemon, since he reincarnates into an digiegg that hatches into Patamon. Cherubimon did make Mercuremon with the Human Spirit of Steel, so what if he manipulated a Patamon to digivolve into Mercuremon with the Human Spirit of Steel?
Patamon > Oryxmon > Pajiramon > AncientMegatheriummon
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Pilomon > Sheepmon or Oryxmon > Pajiramon > AncientMegatheriummon could work too
For AncientWisemon, Hagurumon is round and made of metal, and since AncientWisemon is the Ancient legendary warrior of steel, and polished metal is mirror-like, Hagurumon could be a great Rookie, then maybe Clockmon (either form) to keep the round metal theme going. Clockmon has been a pre-evo to Wisemon in some games too, plus Wisemon is a space-time Digimon (time, clock, Clockmon), so could tie in really nicely.
Sephirotmon very much takes inspiration in its name and design from the Sefirot of Jewish Kabbala, so the angel connection is a lot stronger than one would initially think
I always just accepted the spirits as part of the Ancient Digimon's evolution lines. They have that visual cohesion already to just be part of the actual evolution line. The real question is though what level would they be if they were part of a more traditional evolution line?
Kind of like how Rapidmon is also an Ultimate level Digimon when he isn't being used as an Armor and I think a few of the other Armors were reclassified as traditional evolution as well so what would each of the Frontier Digimon be if they ever got reclassified in the same way?
Flamemon is actually classified as a Rookie level Digimon so I think it's pretty safe to assume that Human Spirits would be equivalent to Champion.
From there things get more difficult because there are a 4 evolutions between Rookie and Mega rather than only 2.
The Beast Spirits I think since they act as slide evolutions that are on the same level as human rather than a stage above human would also be Champion level Digimon.
Fusion evolutions actually feel like a stage up from Human and Beast combining the strength of both so I'm going to go ahead and call that an Ultimate level.
Unified again feels like a step up from Fusion evolution combining other elements into the evolution so I'm going to call that a Mega. However I think the Ancient Digimon would either be the natural evolution from Fusion without introducing other elements into the mix or could be a slide evolution remaining at the same level.
This does however leave gaps in the evolution lines since not everyone has a canon Fusion or Unified evolution.
Oh there is an custom art video idea, giving the remaining Adventure kids "Ancient" digimon, AncientBirdramon, AncientAngemon ext
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I hate Gotsumon as a prevo for Monochromon (Because I love rhinos and I believe it deserves a more animalistic prevo) but as a rookie for AncienctVolcanomon, I think Gotsumon is a must. It is just such a classic Digimon.
I love the ancient digimon. Ancient Greymon is my favorite greymon. My decision on it would be Augumon X then go to geogreymon cause the x antibody changes it from usual greymon then rise greymon then ancient greymon cause they x antibody can be a gateway for it to get into its ancient dna. So im happy karn agrees
I have exactly one nitpick with the lines in this video.
Blacktailmon instead of Tailmon for the alternate to Nefertimon for Ancientsphinxmon. Just to tie things together more cohesively.
Also Ancientmermaimon works with shakkoumon as a survive reference.
Having the Legendary Warriors be "Ultra" level makes their status even higher having ascended past Mega however all the ultimates that flow into them is also a fair point. I like all these lines but hear me out, Kokuwamon->Kuwagamon->MegaKabuterimon(blue)->AncientBeetlemon, breaking each aspect of the Legendary Warrior's design into each of its prior stages.
Now we just need a Kaisergreymon or Magnagarurumon level for the other spirits before Susanomon
I get the Nefertimon ancient Egypt connection but I think visually for a spirit of darkness line it should have Black Gatomon in there somewhere. It could be the Rookie but it is a Champion more often than not.
My pitch of Ancientbeetlemon would be a fusion of both AtlaKabutarimons
Patamon digivolved to Wizardmon in World 2. You're all good.
These were all good choices and here is what I think their evolutions would be as I think I would atleast use one of the ancient spirits 1, Agumon to Greymon to Burning Greymon to AncientGreymon 2, Gabumon to Garurumon to KendoGarurumon to Ancientgarurumon 3, Biyomon to Aquliamon to Zephyrmon to Ancientirismon 4, Kokabuterimon to Beetlemon to Mega Kabuterimon Blue to AncientBeetlemon 5, Gommon to Ikakkumon to Korikakumon to Ancientmegatheriummon 6, Salamon to Blackgatomon to JeagerLoweemon to AncientSphinxmon 7, Sunrizamon to Grumblemon to Volcanomon to AncientVolcanomon 8, Jellymon to Ranamon to Mermaidmon to AncientMermaidmon 9, Palmon to Armourmon to Cherrymon to AncientTrojiamon 10, Mirrormon to Mercurymon to Wisemon to AncientWisemon.
If the Ancients are Ultra I think Cres Garurumon would be a better pre-evolution for Ancient Garurumon because of the knightliness and the swords. Blitz Greymon could also work for Ancient Greymon since the red color and ranged blasts
Honestly, Ancientsphinxmon should have used the Leomon line if you wanted adventure links as both are lion based.