The Beautiful Lies of Sound Design | Tasos Frantzolas | TEDxAthens

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  • @HarmonicaMustang
    @HarmonicaMustang 8 років тому +351

    Sound design and Foley is a great job; when working with animations you create the world from nothing, letting your creativity and imagination flow. I remember my first attempt at composing music and organising sound design for an animation project of a university student a year above. One of the things I needed to do was to recreate the sound of a sword being drawn to go in tandem with the demon onscreen revealing his claws (directors decision). I could've called a friend who has a katana but I wanted to be creative. So I got a butter knife and a sharpening stone and dragged the knife across it for the main sound, then took a wine glass and flicked it for the 'ding' of the claw tips. Putting them together I got a good result, and from that moment on I got hooked. Since then I've taken up a part time job of creating sound design and composing music for short films and I'm having the time of my life.

    • @thomaswilliams6869
      @thomaswilliams6869 8 років тому +1

      DJ Shuffle r u a foley artist?

    • @thomaswilliams6869
      @thomaswilliams6869 8 років тому +1

      DJ Shuffle did u hav to get a degree of some kind? Or is it on the job training

    • @HarmonicaMustang
      @HarmonicaMustang 8 років тому +37

      Its sort of both. I studied Audio Production which included a brief overview of Foley and Sound Design. After doing some research I bought some equipment (portable recorder and a shotgun microphone) and began experimenting. My university also did courses in film production and animation, so I teamed up with a few students who were also experimenting with different techniques and had lots of small projects that didn't lead anywhere. I asked them if I could record Foley and create Sound Design for their test projects, to which they happily agreed. Next thing I know, they began working on their major projects and required sound. They remembered me and asked if I was willing to participate. Up to this point I gathered enough experience to know what I'm doing and how to achieve certain effects. I agreed and we got some great films and animations together. Using their work as examples of past work, I asked around local post production studios and I managed to find a place. I got further training from a fellow experienced Foley artist working there, which mainly included breathing techniques (to minimise interference) and fine tuning my synchronisation.

    • @thomaswilliams6869
      @thomaswilliams6869 8 років тому +1

      thanks!! where abouts are u based?

    • @sebaba001
      @sebaba001 7 років тому +9

      Any shotgun will do, in fact, almost any decent mic will do. How your room sounds is 100 times more important than your mic. Little noise, little reverberation/echo is what you're looking for, with a solid floor (if your house is made of wood it's gonna be trouble, your footsteps are always gonna have some extra boxy low-mids).
      Best tip to learn foley is to see someone else do it. So ask for internships at any studio that does foley, or even people that do it independently. If there's a college in your city that teaches audio, at bare minimum one of the teachers probably does sound design as a freelancer, ask him if he needs an intern and that you will bring him coffee and tidy the place up and clean up the place if he teaches you. Work is cheaper than any college, and you learn more if your boss is good.

  • @INDEPTHSoundDesign
    @INDEPTHSoundDesign 6 років тому +38

    No layperson seems to understand how important sound design is in media but luckily they always seem to get their minds blown when you show them the inner workings of it. I love that bacon example

  • @SamirTimilsina
    @SamirTimilsina 4 роки тому +28

    This is such an underrated video. This deserves more views.

  • @NetroXi
    @NetroXi 6 років тому +210

    But can you use rain sound for bacon video??? :D

    • @pontram
      @pontram 6 років тому +11

      Of course you can. You can also use silence for bacon frying video. Creates a lot of tension with you and the producer, and the director, and finally, the audience (if it happens to have one) ;-)

    • @tiberiu_nicolae
      @tiberiu_nicolae 5 років тому +23

      I did some experiments so here are my results: DO NOT FRY BACON IN THE RAIN

    • @OfficialStevenCravis
      @OfficialStevenCravis 5 років тому

      Belated LOL, *Justinas Nargela* - Good one! (I'm late to this video as you can see).

  • @tedtw
    @tedtw 6 років тому +25

    Only thing I found tougher than doing sound design (Foley) for a film, is doing it LIVE with a full-house audience during a live production. Timing must be perfect every time to prevent spoiling a scene. Wizard of Oz required 35 sound effects which I created from scratch, and used the original film script for the play. Wrote special software to cue each effect for instant play.

  • @jeremywatts3173
    @jeremywatts3173 8 років тому +106

    by far the best TED talk about sound

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol 7 років тому +3

      Well, there was that one along time ago where the guy focuses and directs sound across the audience with some device, that was neat

    • @DhirajKyawal
      @DhirajKyawal 7 років тому +3

      +Adam Bechtol Interesting. What was it called?

    • @archologyzero
      @archologyzero 6 років тому +12

      Your profile picture had me trying to clean my phone screen for five minutes

  • @joey4track
    @joey4track 7 років тому +153

    "I actually lied, they're all bacon..." [thunderous applause] is really quite cracking me up right now

    • @Depuratumba
      @Depuratumba 6 років тому +27

      I would like to make an edit where right after he says that, it cuts to the ending with him saying "Thank You"

    • @Kolutic4723
      @Kolutic4723 6 років тому +4

      Guido Flichman
      It's been seven months, where is it

    • @abrampainter3764
      @abrampainter3764 5 років тому +4

      Lol I'm imagining someone literally waiting 7 months to see if the edit was was made, checking back every few weeks hoping to god the comment hasn't been buried by comments like "Fart at 00:12" and "MORGAN FREEMAN + REVERB = GOD" (which is the only true thing that's been said thus far), only to get frustrated enough after 7 months to write, "It's been seven months! WHERE IS IT!!!!!???"

    • @kiaeshghi6999
      @kiaeshghi6999 3 роки тому +2

      @@abrampainter3764 waiting for this edit tbh

    • @maddywade5081
      @maddywade5081 3 роки тому

      that wasn't real applause.

  • @thefruitofpassion927
    @thefruitofpassion927 6 років тому +132

    As a sound designer I bet he's mad at his microphone when he's talking.

    • @oysteinsoreide4323
      @oysteinsoreide4323 4 роки тому +4

      It was adequate. But of course not perfect. But was only the words that were important. It was not a vocal in a musical piece. A narrator versus vocals in movies or music has very different requirements. Accuracy is not important in speech. But clearness and easy to discern words are. In my mind the only negative about the sound on his mike was because it was placed slightly too close to the airflow from the mouth creating popping sounds.

    • @natepelham9028
      @natepelham9028 3 роки тому

      @@brysenbowie4024 Thats an invasion of her privacy, bud. Not a good look

  • @theboblaurenshow4274
    @theboblaurenshow4274 8 років тому +29

    Thanks for doing this seminar. I am presenting at Texas Frightmare this year on horror film sound. Some of your vocabulary and terms for describing sound were very inspiring. Indy film sound is quite messy and many just kick it to the curb, do not budget, and sometimes think of it as a red headed step child to the point of disrespect. I'm struggling a bit with having to be diplomatic to my film maker audience while trying to bridge the gap between director and mix engineer. We have so many misconseptions and problems.

    • @aspirestudios8167
      @aspirestudios8167 6 років тому

      are you in Texas? if so, I gotta chat with you re: sound design :-)

    • @Spiderhip
      @Spiderhip 6 років тому

      My newborn baby's screams are perfectly suitable for sudden scared woman scream sounds. He starts with whining like engine sounds before the drag race. At around 4th or 5th step he makes his peak sound which is that screams. :D

    • @Spiderhip
      @Spiderhip 6 років тому +1

      Oh and I believe with a little bit editing, you can make lots of usefull sound effects from his long and juicy farts :D

  • @lachietaylor7504
    @lachietaylor7504 7 років тому +5

    So fascinated by sound now!!! crazy what the film industry can do with it, it is so creative

  • @elvoj5245
    @elvoj5245 3 роки тому +4

    I put this recommendation on a list, I knew it was going to be quite useful and, I wasn't wrong: As music producer, I've found his assertion to the sound design as as language and how it plays around illusion very enlightening.

  • @babotond
    @babotond 7 років тому +9

    "- Don't you hate that?
    - Hate what?
    - Uncomfortable silences. Why do we feel it's necessary to yak about bullshit in order to be comfortable?
    - I don't know. That's a good question."
    btw I love to simply listen to movies without the picture, draws my attention to more details, I recommend it...

    • @jp3813
      @jp3813 3 роки тому +2

      Never let anyone tell you that cinema is exclusively a visual medium.

  • @pachathavala
    @pachathavala 6 років тому +3

    This is one of the best presentation ever....and the audience haven't grown to understand it...

  • @AdarshJohnson
    @AdarshJohnson 3 роки тому +5

    Can we take a moment to appreciate the stage decor?

  • @didcomusic
    @didcomusic 2 роки тому +2

    Yes , sounds and music are powerfull. But most powerfull is the creativity associated. Creativity often comes when you take an idea from its original context and you move it somewhere else; it's amazing. I love the magic moment where things are different and interesting but stay in the same format .

  • @BDLabs2
    @BDLabs2 6 років тому +42

    In summary: *_MORGAN FREEMAN + REVERB = GOD_*

  • @Northsea_007
    @Northsea_007 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you that was VERY INTERESTING! Every day we are confronted with and surrounded by sound and never really recognize how much it impacts our feelings and thoughts!

  • @prashantkaul8151
    @prashantkaul8151 7 років тому +4

    This is quite encouraging for anybody looking to get into sound business.

  • @abhishekvaru
    @abhishekvaru 6 років тому +3

    Sir, I love creating foleys and just enjoy providing, setting and mixing sound effects and ambience and all to a video... and whosoever had watched my work, they were shocked at my perfection. SHOULD I CHOOSE THIS PASSION AS MY CARRIER ??? and if YES, WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST !!???

  • @6stBeatz
    @6stBeatz 6 років тому +4

    Best Presentation On Sound I Seen So Far

  • @OliverOsborneMusic
    @OliverOsborneMusic 5 років тому +2

    Love this! Plan for weekend: Make ambient tracks.

  • @BriannaTerese
    @BriannaTerese 6 років тому +7

    I love foley art 💖

  • @AemaethMonster
    @AemaethMonster 5 років тому +2

    He has so many ideas to keep my concentration.
    I love this ted.

  • @MrKgomotso
    @MrKgomotso 6 років тому +5

    My life will never be the same !!

  • @rwharrington87
    @rwharrington87 2 роки тому

    The bit on the dynamic contrast... the play between loudness and silence can't be overstated.

  • @justinn9769
    @justinn9769 6 років тому +4

    This was great! An invitation to appreciate and PLAY with perception. I liked the juxtaposition of the baby and the congas.

  • @perrypelican9476
    @perrypelican9476 6 років тому +4

    Great talk to, among other things, get someone interested in sound design.

  • @MrUsamamubeen1
    @MrUsamamubeen1 7 років тому +3

    You did great Tasos! thank you for shearing the knowledge.

  • @Audiostoke1
    @Audiostoke1 8 років тому +299

    sounds like he put a laugh track in here?....

    • @julioflores8352
      @julioflores8352 7 років тому +62

      Sound Design...

    • @D3TOSS
      @D3TOSS 7 років тому +55

      too much gate...

    • @gerritgenis1685
      @gerritgenis1685 7 років тому +30

      That's because of the noise gate. Pretty badly set up

    • @BlackinVegas
      @BlackinVegas 6 років тому +4

      ok now I know I'm not the only one

    • @iemgote7249
      @iemgote7249 6 років тому +5

      I'd think HE out of all people would do a better job, so it's the noise gate.

  • @BaumannMusic
    @BaumannMusic 7 років тому +3

    Great talk! I should join a TEDx when I come to Athens next time :-)

  • @DaikFlowkes
    @DaikFlowkes 7 років тому +84

    I too stab cabbages

    • @OthO67
      @OthO67 6 років тому +6

      DaikFlowkes
      DaikFlowkes & The Cabbage Stabbers would make a great band name. 😎

  • @subeg
    @subeg 6 років тому +2

    Silence is golden

  • @vocoded5290
    @vocoded5290 3 роки тому +1

    Frank Serafine is a legend! Glad to hear his name.

  • @gorkyd7912
    @gorkyd7912 6 років тому +10

    Sometimes they push it too far. Like when National Geographic makes a hyena getting bit by a lion cry out using a canned moose call.

  • @pentprod7766
    @pentprod7766 7 років тому

    Dropin gems left and right

  • @bienmabbayad6226
    @bienmabbayad6226 Рік тому

    I'm adding this video to my lecture on Radio and Movie appreciation.

  • @midi510
    @midi510 6 років тому +29

    I believe the reason people think fake sounds are more real is because they've been conditioned over the decades by fake sounds. It's like if you only ever taste artificial banana flavor, and then eat a real banana, it wouldn't taste right to you.

    • @jeremyhume5563
      @jeremyhume5563 5 років тому +1

      Wow..
      ..for whatever reason, I read your comment and read "fart" sounds (instead of "fake"), not once.....but twice - reading it at the end of the first sentence. Needless to say, my version of the comment was much more entertaining.

    • @turnerofwheels
      @turnerofwheels 5 років тому +6

      There's a surprisingly non-subjective and technical answer to your question. Both sounds are made out of many tiny random events: rain sounds are made of thousands of raindrops impacting. Bacon, hundreds, perhaps thousands of tiny bubbles splattering. Both are in a similar frequency range. So you have two sounds that share the similarity of being a composite of many tiny random events, and what you hear is the result of all of that. These can be modeled as stochastic (random events in a fixed range over time) processes and you can simulate a lot of sounds pretty easily with common stochastic sound design tools, from applause, to leaves in trees to fire (think of what the sound of plastic crumpling is made of--many tiny creaking sounds, whereas fire is made of many tiny cracks as gas escapes the wood etc). Stochastic sounds are found throughout the natural and manmade world and there's been research into this since the mid 20th century, starting with Iannis Xenakis. So yeah, this isn't just because of deception--the sounds share real similarities in their properties. You can also use rice to simulate the sounds of rain quite effectively, for the same reason--just put a bunch of dry grains in a container and shake it around. Sound designers have used this trick for decades.

    • @anispm7508
      @anispm7508 4 роки тому

      The point makes a lot of sense. That's true. But how we are conditioned so..? is a question worth consideration..We always are fed up with the shabby boring life..We keep looking for fantasy..Something that has more effect in our sense than real. Cinema definitely is designed for fantasy. Real elements are very cleverly blended with this design to outsmart the brain of audience.

    • @GameyRaccoon
      @GameyRaccoon 4 роки тому

      The reason artificial banana flavor tastes different is because its supposed to taste like an extinct species of banana. Today's bananas are called cavendish bananas and taste completely different.
      So, not the best analogy

  • @1949AKN
    @1949AKN 3 роки тому

    Beautiful presentation.బాగుంది.మెచ్చుకుంటున్నాను.

  • @glitch314
    @glitch314 8 років тому +3

    excellent and inspiring

  • @ashiamikumarisensei
    @ashiamikumarisensei 6 років тому +1

    Fascinating Ted Talk. Excellent job Tasos Fratzolas. Thank you!

  • @thijsdebont
    @thijsdebont 6 років тому +5

    It's ironic that a talk about sound design has such a horrible thin and mid-huff-puff audio quality.

  • @honigtamara
    @honigtamara 2 роки тому

    08:00 "A real big one": that was when - listening in the kitchen, windows opened - church bells started ringing outside

  • @nemolee_exe
    @nemolee_exe 28 днів тому

    "in brooklyn they use kale" has to be one of the most subtle jokes ever

  • @evillepin
    @evillepin 6 років тому +2

    This is great! thanks!!

  • @Thandidladla
    @Thandidladla 4 роки тому +1

    Watching this for the second time cuz I forgot I already did. Still, absolutely worth watching again

  • @alazturkmen3945
    @alazturkmen3945 7 років тому +2

    This is a great explanation for film editors

  • @steffeeH
    @steffeeH 6 років тому +1

    Former sounddesigner here. I approve this talk. Great one!

  • @Earth2Ross
    @Earth2Ross 9 місяців тому

    Learned so much from this video. 🤯

  • @PearlMaStudio
    @PearlMaStudio 5 років тому +1

    Thank you so much.❤

  • @teddyl7006
    @teddyl7006 6 років тому +3

    So was the applause at the end rain?

  • @b00i00d
    @b00i00d 6 років тому +2

    Lovely!

  • @Nightizm
    @Nightizm 8 років тому +13

    love me some good foley

  • @kerwinfernandes9583
    @kerwinfernandes9583 2 роки тому

    That was fun, thanks and God Bless! 😊🙏🏻❤

  • @lordberly
    @lordberly Рік тому

    I'm an amateur mixing engineer. I found this very interesting and somewhat correlated to what I do.

  • @Leotardoification
    @Leotardoification 7 років тому +121

    Pretty bad sound for a video about sound design..

  • @brngsh5549
    @brngsh5549 7 років тому +4

    This is great for anyone who knows nothing about post production and humor.

  • @rendagreat1866
    @rendagreat1866 6 років тому +47

    who else thought that this was going to be about serum???

  • @systematic-sound
    @systematic-sound 7 років тому +1

    nice talk.

  • @ling6701
    @ling6701 3 роки тому +1

    Very funny guy, and interesting talk. That was a good moment to witness.

  • @yijuncai8400
    @yijuncai8400 6 років тому +1

    Boom~ its cool for my interview questions ~ well
    ~ keep enjoy ~😉

  • @RSS6612
    @RSS6612 7 років тому +1

    This is awesome.

  • @dyor2086
    @dyor2086 3 роки тому

    such amazing clip for sound define

  • @RmaNYouTube
    @RmaNYouTube 8 років тому +5

    this was awesome & inspiring !!!

  • @gavinmagnus6607
    @gavinmagnus6607 3 роки тому

    What an eye/ear opener

  • @OliverJHughes
    @OliverJHughes 7 років тому +2

    For a talk about sound design (or any live event, honestly) - why in the world was his dialogue gated in this edit?

  • @nahomseyfu
    @nahomseyfu Рік тому

    Awesome

  •  5 років тому

    One of The best i have ever watched

  • @ishan_r
    @ishan_r 5 років тому

    Thank you Tasos

  • @k.o.p5190
    @k.o.p5190 7 років тому

    awsome man .great lessons

  • @AndrewKarnavas
    @AndrewKarnavas 8 років тому

    Wonderful talk!

  • @foxfire180
    @foxfire180 7 років тому +4

    All those people sleeping at 14:57

  • @lanayashina
    @lanayashina 5 років тому

    Ok this is the best ted talk i've seen )))

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- 8 років тому +1

    Πολύ καλή παρουσίαση

  • @devilichus
    @devilichus 2 роки тому +1

    Today I've created a bell sound with distorting the sound of my electric guitar btw.

    • @martindiehl155
      @martindiehl155 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, sound design is pure fun. I started my journey 1,5 years ago and still have fun.

    • @devilichus
      @devilichus 2 роки тому

      @@martindiehl155 I was trying to record my new song but in the middle of it I found realized that the sound of my guitar is giving a bell sound when I pull off my fınger with enough power (the pull of technique from hammer on - pull off thing) Then I stopped working on the tune and added bass and high octave pitched versions of ıt to the bus, EQ a little then a compressor did the trick. Who knows maybe I can try more ın the future because sound designers always inspire me I love being experimental even in my songs trying all those sounds and home studio tricks…

  • @litobakzcozykc7616
    @litobakzcozykc7616 7 років тому +2

    Where is the best place to study a degree of Sound Design? Thank you.

  • @MorrisonProductions
    @MorrisonProductions 6 років тому

    For a video about sound, you'd think they would have worked out a way to reduce the vocal popping.

  • @tvkafuka
    @tvkafuka 6 років тому

    so nice

  • @rnomberg
    @rnomberg Рік тому

    Speaking about sound, his microphone records plosives and there is some Larsen effect...;)
    Great video though!

  • @hansraj110995
    @hansraj110995 4 роки тому +1

    I'm so sorry for this comment .... I really LOVEDDDDDDD the presentation..... But was that a fart at 9:09 🤣🤣🤣

  • @snjert8406
    @snjert8406 4 роки тому +1

    Thank god I had headphones, I could hear that it was all bacon :D That talk was awesome, I'm gonna implement that

  • @passiton3801
    @passiton3801 6 років тому +1

    Sounded good to me...

  • @JohnLRice
    @JohnLRice 7 років тому +1

    Nice!

  • @vishakhagautam2173
    @vishakhagautam2173 8 років тому +3

    Brilliantly explained the meaning of sound, i want to more about meaning behind the sound as the example of breaking of glass depicts breaking of relationship is sow. Kindly help me with the links where i can study more about it.

  • @HackMyControlSystem
    @HackMyControlSystem 6 років тому +18

    I eat meat to save salad from cruel sound design.

  • @samwu1836
    @samwu1836 6 років тому +1

    So what does all this mean?

  • @17samalex
    @17samalex 3 роки тому

    Fantastic :)

  • @StefanReich
    @StefanReich 6 років тому

    Cool

  • @hosseinmontazeri491
    @hosseinmontazeri491 7 років тому +20

    the gate on his voice is killing me so much for a sound guy, also he walks waaay too much

  • @zeinhaydar8780
    @zeinhaydar8780 2 роки тому

    Great

  • @alexdem98
    @alexdem98 7 років тому +1

    When did TEDx came in Athens??? D:

  • @Frost0ne_
    @Frost0ne_ 23 дні тому

    POV : You're a sound designer and you knew all 3 were bacon lol. It's not about the frying but about the exploding bubbles of oil

  • @MrDavidschloss
    @MrDavidschloss 5 років тому

    Dude is ballistic

  • @ZendelWashington
    @ZendelWashington 6 років тому +3

    shout out to David Lynch!

  • @johanpruys
    @johanpruys 8 років тому

    nice!

  • @benmills5372
    @benmills5372 5 років тому

    now this is epic

  • @way2girly
    @way2girly 3 роки тому +1

    “Brains are conditioned to believe the lie“ 😂
    So deep

  • @cybergrimreaper6669
    @cybergrimreaper6669 6 років тому +1

    When i read the title ,i thought that he was going to rant on the music producers

  • @tahakalil2380
    @tahakalil2380 3 роки тому

    13:12 colin stetson

  • @TraxtasyMedia
    @TraxtasyMedia 2 роки тому

    "and the Oscar goes to........ The fridge of your neighbor!"

  • @spane5mixline
    @spane5mixline 7 років тому +1

    dope