PSA Removes Ludkins - The End Of Middleman Grading

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 6 лис 2022
  • My store: www.ebay.com/str/smpratte
    E4: www.elitefourum.com/
    Patreon: / smpratte
    IG: / smpratte
  • Розваги

КОМЕНТАРІ • 167

  • @Gandolphin
    @Gandolphin Рік тому +57

    The absolute worst thing is that they still accepted new orders up until at least October 20th, despite probably knowing they wouldn't be able to fulfil them, then suddenly ghosting everybody.

    • @tallcatshortdog
      @tallcatshortdog Рік тому +9

      which makes it obviously malicious. Once you start ghosting people zero benefit of the doubt.

    • @KetchumAllCollectibles
      @KetchumAllCollectibles Рік тому

      While PSA had them featured as an official partner PSA UK

  • @javatreecko
    @javatreecko Рік тому +16

    ‘Live under a geodude’ 😂

  • @dillsimmons
    @dillsimmons Рік тому +15

    Trusting a stranger with your money and property is a terrible idea in general.

  • @jscottyson
    @jscottyson Рік тому +15

    The thumbnail is pure gold!

  • @AlphaWasSpotted
    @AlphaWasSpotted Рік тому +16

    R.I.P. to the lost cards :'(

  • @Mallhall85
    @Mallhall85 Рік тому +47

    There is one big reason why middleman were used so much in Europe! At least for Germany its needed a lot! If you send cards yourself, the German customs will make you pay massive tax after grading! They will let you pay almost the difference in value after grading!
    With a middleman you dont have to pay it since they have a way to prevent this...
    Peace ✌️

    • @AlphaWasSpotted
      @AlphaWasSpotted Рік тому

      That sucks, im sorry to hear that.

    • @sebastian8418
      @sebastian8418 Рік тому

      There are easy ways to prevent this. Middlemen in germany are not necessary anymore.

    • @haggiscollectibles
      @haggiscollectibles Рік тому +3

      You send it out as Repair/Return, PSA return it as Repair/Return. You dont pay customs or tax, except a £21 package clearance fee to FedEx.

    • @Jugoplastika
      @Jugoplastika Рік тому

      copy i send up : one thing im in EU and they promise they will ship from Paris office as import taxes was his part of they job, reason i take them in first place, after two years they shock me saying no Paris anymore you need to pay taxes , and just say sorrry , thats all, imagine situation they late more then year and ppl from EU getting cards from paris but because they late that much in mean time they close paris office and we all from EU who wait more then others now we are punished and we need to pay taxes because they late , haha insaine just broke our deal and thats it, they say brexit is reason and its not , after brexit paris office still works they made that office because of brexit in first place , i ship one sub in UK when UK was in EU and second sub to paris it means i ship both time to eu now i will not get back cards from eu and i need to pay taxes and deal with customs

    • @000FireStorm37000
      @000FireStorm37000 Рік тому

      @@haggiscollectibles is this actually a thing?

  • @cryptosir2025
    @cryptosir2025 Рік тому +1

    I got so lucky..
    I sent tens of thousands worth to Ludkins in 8 shipments at the end of 2020 and got my last cards back only 2-3 months ago which must of been right before all of this blew up!

  • @gengarbrigade479
    @gengarbrigade479 Рік тому +11

    This is where the fun begins

  • @kushypokemon8613
    @kushypokemon8613 Рік тому

    Love the content. Keep it coming. :D Finally have downtime watch them all

  • @anthonyhenryhoover9278
    @anthonyhenryhoover9278 Рік тому +12

    Definitely the end of middlemanning. But the PSA UK office was ran by ludkins that lasted a few months. They made a statement a few days ago as PSA uk saying any subs will be returned to sender. So now if you’re in the UK/EU the really only option now is to sub direct that is very complicated with importing and exporting. Why middlaning was so popular over here.

    • @Jugoplastika
      @Jugoplastika Рік тому

      one thing im in EU and they promise they will ship from Paris office as import taxes was his part of they job, reason i take them in first place, after two years they shock me saying no Paris anymore you need to pay taxes , and just say sorrry , thats all, imagine situation they late more then year and ppl from EU getting cards from paris but because they late that much in mean time they close paris office and we all from EU who wait more then others now we are punished and we need to pay taxes because they late , haha insaine just broke our deal and thats it, they say brexit is reason and its not , after brexit paris office still works they made that office because of brexit in first place , i ship one sub in UK when UK was in EU and second sub to paris it means i ship both time to eu now i will not get back cards from eu and i need to pay taxes and deal with customs

  • @o_xRoKu
    @o_xRoKu Рік тому +9

    Wow I was just considering FINALLY submitting cards for my first time. This video pops up in my subscriptions. This is why I stay subscribed to you bro, now I'm well informed of the things that go on from a casual like me.

  • @ZoooomYou
    @ZoooomYou Рік тому +4

    I used a middleman service before (a well known one) and I would never ever use it again. It was like pulling teeth and felt like I was at the mercy of the middleman to get the status of my order. Only reason I sent it to the middleman in the first place was the hopes to get my cards back faster, but I actually got my own submission MONTHS faster than the return by the middleman. The communication is terrible/non-existent and that is not something I want to go through when I already paid thousands for grading fee and have hundreds of cards out there. Now I feel way more comfortable knowing I have control & whereabout my order is at.

  • @PlaySkapeGames
    @PlaySkapeGames Рік тому +13

    Waiting on over 1700+ cards from Ludkins UK I submitted in Q1 2021. At this stage I just want my cards back, I'll pay however much shipping PSA ask for!

    • @E-A-Z-Y
      @E-A-Z-Y Рік тому +1

      Wow, Stephen that’s horrid. Really hope you get this sorted.

    • @Jakelol1980
      @Jakelol1980 Рік тому

      Get ready for the worst man 😢

    • @Danzo1212
      @Danzo1212 Рік тому

      i have like $5,000 worth of cards with ludkins im praying for sure because theres no chance we can get our card value back

    • @theo9743
      @theo9743 Рік тому

      They ask for the PSA submission numbers on the Google form but I'm not sure where to find them from my correspondence with ludkins, have you got any idea?

    • @PlaySkapeGames
      @PlaySkapeGames Рік тому +1

      @@theo9743 I didn't have mine either - Just fill in the form as best as you can for now, still waiting for news.

  • @raffiehalajian4873
    @raffiehalajian4873 Рік тому +2

    I’m thankful my 75 card submission was without any issues… hopefully everyone gets their cards

  • @YouSayBooyah
    @YouSayBooyah Рік тому +1

    Not defending ludkins, but didnt help that ludkins put all their eggs in one basket with psa when they could have submitted to cgc/bgs while psa was shut down, which would help keep money flowing.

  • @KelvinTrading
    @KelvinTrading Рік тому +5

    Pokémon is filled with immature people acting like they are owners and business people. While they are just here to get some fast cash. And everyone knew 2020 would be a good exit point.

  • @jat7370
    @jat7370 Рік тому +4

    Ludkins was ‘PSA U.K.’ and was the official U.K. hub for PSA. They were not a middleman after July 2022, they were PSA 🤦‍♂️

  • @theboringchannel2027
    @theboringchannel2027 Рік тому +2

    upside was the elimination of VAT TAXES on the returned cards,
    which is considerable.

  • @tyrants3062
    @tyrants3062 Рік тому +5

    The middlemen have fallen

  • @jakubkulakowski
    @jakubkulakowski Рік тому +8

    FOR GOD'S SAKE: WE NEED PSA IN EUROPE. Shipping to US is an absolute nightmare

    • @haggiscollectibles
      @haggiscollectibles Рік тому

      It’s not. You can ship a sub to PSA in California, within about 2-3 days for around $35-40. Its hardly a nightmare. It seems to be a bit of a myth.

    • @jakubkulakowski
      @jakubkulakowski Рік тому +1

      @@haggiscollectibles 40 dollars is not cheap for me :D But anyway, what about VAT for example?

    • @haggiscollectibles
      @haggiscollectibles Рік тому

      @@jakubkulakowski you dont pay VAT on return - you pay a £21 disbursement fee to FedEx to release your package, and thats it. You mark the initial shipment as Repair/Return on the customs forms, PSA do the same and then you pay no VAT on the card value, grading fee value etc.

    • @Zretgul_timerunner
      @Zretgul_timerunner Рік тому +1

      @@haggiscollectibles so where to commit tax fraud is what your saying instead bruh

    • @haggiscollectibles
      @haggiscollectibles Рік тому

      @@Zretgul_timerunner no - this is the correct way to submit your cards.

  • @jackzhu462
    @jackzhu462 Рік тому

    Just as you said you needed to take a sponsored sip, an ad popped up 😂😂😂

    • @MRkriegs
      @MRkriegs 10 місяців тому

      An ad shouldn't have popped up. He doesn't run ads. I don't think I've ever gotten an ad on this channel.

  • @BartAllen
    @BartAllen Рік тому +15

    *Literally praying PSA opens a centre in the UK after this ~ But super happy I didn't send in my boxing cards to "PSA UK" a few months ago ~* 😂😂

  • @OdaComeOda
    @OdaComeOda Рік тому +1

    I am still waiting for some cards that were sent through ludkins USA in March 2021. Is the USA branch affected too? Messaged them and just got a big long auto email saying this situation.

  • @gekhang
    @gekhang Рік тому +2

    A few bad apples doesn't ruin the batch. Just because one or two that we have heard of recently mishandled it improperly doesn't mean EVERY single middleman does it the same. I would focus more on Local middleman services rather than sending it to a big middleman several states away. You got it right about it being a service. As a middleman myself and a LGS we use it as a service to bring people in. We do not allow others to send it in to us as it doesn't make sense in the long run.

    • @MRkriegs
      @MRkriegs 10 місяців тому

      "I know all u guys got scammed but u can trust me.".😂😂😂

  • @GastonBaluchon
    @GastonBaluchon Рік тому +2

    Ludkins get paid at the beginning of 2021 when 1£ was 1$40
    But PSA ask for the paiement in the middle of 2022 when 1£ was 1$25 (approximately)
    To be clearer, it's a loss of almost 900£ per $10.000 order for the middleman who asked for paiement at the order.
    Now imagine that ludkins had accumulated for $100k or $200k or more orders. This is where they fucked up

  • @creed5
    @creed5 Рік тому +2

    great Thumbnail yet again

  • @Danzo1212
    @Danzo1212 Рік тому +5

    this is terrifying as someone who has cards with ludkins uk and they are ghosting me website is down, i dont know how to go about getting my cards back now

    • @fireftw_tcg1633
      @fireftw_tcg1633 Рік тому

      When did you send them? If they have gone to the US to be graded PSA has a form you can fill in to try and find and return your cards for you

    • @Danzo1212
      @Danzo1212 Рік тому

      @@fireftw_tcg1633 January 2021 issue is ludkins never gave an order number

    • @Johnmillanmc
      @Johnmillanmc Рік тому

      I'm in a similar boat, I submitted through ludkins in March of 2021 and Im worried I won't get my cards back

  • @NatWestC
    @NatWestC Рік тому

    When I sent to Wata they had a problem with the parcel then even thinking about sending it back, then a few hours later they accepted the parcel. When it got back to the uk it stayed at customs for a week then I got a import charge. Sometimes the middleman
    can help you save time and money, not anymore now.

  • @becomingaplumber
    @becomingaplumber Рік тому

    I waited 2 years for my 70 card submission. Nov 2020 and received two weeks ago. Had some big cards in there and it was nerve racking at times

  • @LupercalRising
    @LupercalRising Рік тому +2

    This happened with GradedGem too

    • @jordanashley2837
      @jordanashley2837 5 місяців тому

      They were my favorite and I'm so sad they couldn't make it after the boom of grading

  • @AlexSmith-jd6ns
    @AlexSmith-jd6ns Рік тому

    It's crazy I was always so sceptical about sending my collection off and finally in 2019 I sent 50 of my best cards through ludkins and they are currently lost, I asked multiple times for my order number and updates and never received a straight answer, I've submitted photos of my cards to PSA currently as that all I can supply them with really regretting it all

  • @MisterStubstep
    @MisterStubstep Рік тому +1

    One day my PSA return will come back

  • @dillonsmith-6982
    @dillonsmith-6982 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @WSFM_Rex
    @WSFM_Rex Рік тому

    So what happens if you have a ludkins submission sent in? It’s just gone?

  • @Jugoplastika
    @Jugoplastika Рік тому +1

    i stuck with ludkins 2020 , 3000$ with them and i was patient but this now is really too much, im so frustrated, some ppl can die in mean time and still not get cards back

  • @Lagghy
    @Lagghy Рік тому +1

    Im so happy i didnt send my 99 tropical wind. But still i wish i could grade that card but im too afraid of losing it

  • @JoeKyser
    @JoeKyser Рік тому

    I wonder why Ludkins still has their PSA site up

  • @AlphaWasSpotted
    @AlphaWasSpotted Рік тому +3

    Would you say reckless spending caused this also? How did Ludkins make profit? How weren't they able to pay up?

    • @benwillis5840
      @benwillis5840 Рік тому +1

      Ludkins took money in advance from customers, sent cards to PSA then paid when the cards were graded. They were "robbing Peter to pay Paul", like a Ponzi scheme they needed money from new customers to pay the bill for current customers. With PSA closing during the pandemic, Ludkins could no longer do this. Allegedly they used the money they'd received to keep the business running while there was no money coming in and now don't have the money to pay PSA (there could be 100,000 cards involved).

  • @George-gs7xb
    @George-gs7xb Рік тому +1

    What about people in other countries like South Africa for example. The middleman companies fill a role or you as an individual will pay a fortune to grade 1 card.

  • @moneyninja3852
    @moneyninja3852 Рік тому

    Hi! Do you think the price of those Charizard Boxes are going to go down a little bit because Pokemon is going to add more inventory to the market soon? Or should we buy now at the inflated Prices? Thanks

    • @cryptosir2025
      @cryptosir2025 Рік тому

      I personally think under $100 is a good price with $80 being a great price if u want to wait or search for deals.

  • @NinjaCamper94
    @NinjaCamper94 Рік тому

    Honestly surprised to see this happen I graded a bunch of cards through them in 2018-19 and it was a pretty nice process if not long. But things just aren’t the same in the grading world to the point where I have 10 or more cards i would like to grade but just don’t trust them in PSA or others hands. Truly sad to see what’s happening

    • @josephozturk3288
      @josephozturk3288 Рік тому

      Why don’t you trust psa? They are pretty reliable and trustworthy

  • @schweppesz9215
    @schweppesz9215 Рік тому +5

    I almost sent my cards to 'PSA UK' (which is Ludkins UK) last month but their submission process wasn't straight forward so I decided not to. PSA should open a UK based submission centre that can handle UK and the rest of Europe submissions.

    • @Mallhall85
      @Mallhall85 Рік тому

      @@Tyrese18 Word!

    • @BartAllen
      @BartAllen Рік тому +4

      @@Tyrese18 *Nah, PSA UK -- bigger market to Pokémon ~*

    • @BartAllen
      @BartAllen Рік тому +5

      @@Tyrese18 *Ah, so Nintendo opened a Pokémon Centre in Germany? When was this? :P*

    • @BartAllen
      @BartAllen Рік тому +4

      @@Tyrese18 *Sure will - hence why PSA most probably wanted to end it -- but a lot higher chance than Germany but nice try though :)*

    • @Mallhall85
      @Mallhall85 Рік тому +2

      @@BartAllen how would UK be a bigger market to Pokémon than the whole EU?oO
      Also more than half PSA subs from all Europe including UK are from Germany...
      Peace ✌️

  • @cardboardorigins
    @cardboardorigins Рік тому

    Sorry for anyone experiencing this nightmare. On a related note, hopefully stuff like this doesn't make PSA start charging grading fees before they grade cards. Paying right when they send your cards back is my favorite thing about PSAs grading process.

  • @yimleej4385
    @yimleej4385 Рік тому +1

    I’m not surprised. Had a somewhat bad/neutral experience with Ludkins via eBay. Got the feeling they were in a financial situation.

  • @jeremyg3369
    @jeremyg3369 Рік тому +2

    Kinda weird that you chose to omit the perspective of collectors outside of the US and the obvious reasons why we still absolutely need middlemen services as long as the grading companies don't open their own offices. I would obviously also be sending directly if I was living in the US.

  • @jpcirb
    @jpcirb Рік тому +1

    Glad I escaped with just a 19 month sentence with my cards

  • @AlphaWasSpotted
    @AlphaWasSpotted Рік тому +4

    I love how humble Pratt is.

  • @vito4373
    @vito4373 Рік тому

    My guess this comes down to the value charges? since the value change came in I haven’t sent anything to PSA, you’ve got the initial cost of grading that is paid by the customer and then this extra charge that has to be covered by the middleman and then they need to get that money from the customer it’s just meh I agree the middleman service is silly now, educate me if I’m wrong

  • @WilliamBurnt
    @WilliamBurnt Рік тому

    With regards to PSA , I got 1,000 cards back all at once in December 2021 somehow they got all 10 orders done and shipped, I like to stagger them to spread out the costs… but not that time haha

    • @nateahearn1133
      @nateahearn1133 Рік тому

      bro probably graded 1st edition energies

    • @WilliamBurnt
      @WilliamBurnt Рік тому +1

      @@nateahearn1133 all Unlimited weedles

  • @AlbertoJMarcano
    @AlbertoJMarcano Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately, in the UK you have to use a middleman if you want to use PSA or CGC. Shipping alone is just too expensive if you want a few cards graded every so often.

    • @duckwhoasksunpleasant
      @duckwhoasksunpleasant Рік тому +1

      Agree. In Europe, you will need a middleman as long as PSA doesn't have a local foothold.

  • @tonyjohn6269
    @tonyjohn6269 Рік тому +1

    They didn’t pay their bill/ PSA is 💯 correct Ludkins should be in jail.

  • @jaymaden8672
    @jaymaden8672 Рік тому

    I used ludkins as a middle man, Charlie Hurlocker is a nice guy. It took a year and a half to get my cards back. I will be sending cards in myself now.

  • @kb1039
    @kb1039 Рік тому

    Im the one of those who gave cards trought them and still waiting after 2 years. Who could now this will happen... 🥺

  • @444mutation
    @444mutation Рік тому

    Speaking as a collector in Australia. We have a few big middlemans that have been in the game for years and are only getting stronger reps. I understand there are middlemans in the world that have tarnished the rep, but it seems wrong to ignore the middlemans that are well established businesses who genuinely want to make the process of grading easier

  • @ragunamist677
    @ragunamist677 Рік тому

    I “middleman” for people in a close community. I make no money, I donate my time and people know that. They send through me cause they don’t want to or can’t pay the cost for 1-2 cards plus the shipping fee and gst and they don’t want to send 100+ at a time to keep costs down. End of the day it works out to $35-40aud per card for us so I’m some peoples only option for grading

  • @braxtonabbey7228
    @braxtonabbey7228 Рік тому

    Please someone give me advice. I sent 100+ cards in with Ludkins in 2020, They kept telling me orders were coming in. Cards totaling more than $10,000 in value. Who the hell do I contact now? Advice is extremely appreciated please.

  • @its_grev
    @its_grev Рік тому +3

    Who’s “the ugly” Pokémon on the shirt?

  • @rickkrispies7390
    @rickkrispies7390 Рік тому +1

    Was US effected or just UK?

    • @waynecao6414
      @waynecao6414 Рік тому

      Following. I have order with Ludkins US too.

  • @gitusumbia
    @gitusumbia Рік тому

    Didn't Charlie leave awhile ago and start a new company?

  • @jaszong
    @jaszong Рік тому

    If psa was in 10 different counties the industry will grow much rapidly and much more efficient. Hope Australia and UK will have psa grading services

  • @KetchumAllCollectibles
    @KetchumAllCollectibles Рік тому

    Ludkins was not just another customer. Ludkins was a partner featured on PSA's website as an authorized middleman who then became branded under the PSA UK name. I find it funny some can place total blame on Ludkins when Ludkins was in fact acting as an agent of PSA. There is so much info behind the scenes that we don't know what happened (and may never) but certainly the two public statements made show someone is lying/hiding things. Probably like PWCC x eBay we will never get the full story but how anyone looks at this and doesn't place most of the blame on PSA (given the little information we know is true without speculating or taking either of their words for it) is beyond me.

    • @KetchumAllCollectibles
      @KetchumAllCollectibles Рік тому

      The whole communication thing and all the complaints against middlemen (which are totally valid) also apply directly upon PSA themselves. None of this would have happened had PSA not taken in a 10MM+ card backlog.

  • @Pokebuu
    @Pokebuu Рік тому +3

    I also believe it was not malicious like many people seem to think it was. I released a video a few days ago talking about many of the things that went wrong that lead to this. Brexit, pound value dropping like a rock vs US dollar, covid, PSA backlog, and more.

  • @Lonewolf0840
    @Lonewolf0840 Рік тому

    "Living under a geodude"
    That a refence to the "card cleaners" PokeGeodude or whatever? Or am I reaching here?

  • @DarkSharkBark
    @DarkSharkBark Рік тому

    Im glad atleast psa working hard on this. So bad that Ludkins even deleted theyr site. Now ppl cant get the key info they had to psa so they can get theyr cards..
    Here in Norway we use trusted ppl in the community as middleman straight to psa . Only issue we got no service that can be used in Norway with insurance from Norway to psa just from psa and to us again. But so bad that Ludkins the most trusted international middleman is just gone rogue. Why tho..

  • @Jugoplastika
    @Jugoplastika Рік тому

    marxcards , graded gem, ludkins who is next, psa need to change ppl pay to psa middleman sort pack and ship

  • @andrewgrinter
    @andrewgrinter Рік тому

    PSA Australia PLEASEEEEE 🙏

  • @Daniel-vx5vc
    @Daniel-vx5vc Рік тому

    To add insult to injury their Twitter (which is still linked on their wesbite) is gone and their Instagram posts have comments disabled. Virtually zero communication.

  • @wheelkidd
    @wheelkidd Рік тому

    PSA switching to graded value for pricing is pretty bullshit though.

  • @turbo8628
    @turbo8628 Рік тому

    PSA used the middlemen because it saved them a lot of money.
    Having operations in europe would have additional costs with no additional income (unless you factor in bulk submissions vs single card prices).
    Middlemen saved psa money and helped them get customers who otherwise would not have got their cards graded. They may lose customers because of this.
    PSA operating in europe could benefit everyone who grades with them (including those who send to america because it would mean they have a lighter load to deal with). It should lead to shorter waiting times, be cheaper all around for customers as they avoid a lot of import fees, do not have to pay middlemen, and will have more staff to handle enquiries.
    Losing these middlemen may be a sign that PSA is expanding to other territories or just collateral damage from the pandemic/economic climate.

  • @mrpokedragon511
    @mrpokedragon511 Рік тому

    Profit margins for these middle men are so minor and I bet they had loans. Interest rates rising quickly cuts the fat.

  • @jat7370
    @jat7370 Рік тому

    PSA turning ludkins into ‘PSA U.K.’ whilst knowing they had poor finances was very much PSAs fault. At that point they were no longer ‘customers’ and business partners. Collectibles was bought for $300million and yet they use a third party to open an official hub, PSA should have just opened their own hub.

  • @sylviahume6520
    @sylviahume6520 Рік тому +3

    I’ve got to ask, what Pokémon is ugly on your tee as can’t quite catch it in the video? 🤣🤣

  • @Doors067
    @Doors067 Рік тому +1

    Me just imagining the hoard of UK flippers waiting fir thiere psa 10 amazing rare zacians lol

    • @yugiboy-uk680
      @yugiboy-uk680 Рік тому

      Hahaha! Don't forget the Charizard ETB Champions path promo as well

  • @shaytes1598
    @shaytes1598 Рік тому +13

    smpratte youre wrong... ludkins arent just another customer, they were heavily involved with psa, affiliated with them and showcased on the psa website as a legitimate partnered middleman service that has direct ties to psa.

    • @gengarbrigade479
      @gengarbrigade479 Рік тому +4

      lol

    • @vince7024
      @vince7024 Рік тому +7

      at least that's what they wanted you to think lol. We all got duped, agreed?

    • @Mr.NiceGaius
      @Mr.NiceGaius Рік тому +1

      @@vince7024 lol great call back

    • @benwillis5840
      @benwillis5840 Рік тому

      Before I used Ludkins (back in early 2021) I emailed PSA to check they were legit. They recommended using Ludkins to me!
      "Graded Gem and Ludkins are both PSA Authorized dealers, however they do not grade the cards at their facility - they are a third-party submitter and they will send your order to PSA on your behalf.
      I recommend using one of our authorized dealers, as they do abide by our customer bill of rights.
      If you have any other questions please let us know!
      Sincerely,
      Alyssa
      PCGS/PSA Customer Service"

    • @shaytes1598
      @shaytes1598 Рік тому

      @@benwillis5840 exactly.. psa and ludkins were directly affiliated with each other

  • @Pokevers3
    @Pokevers3 Рік тому

    Where were the contracts. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Martinsrulesd00d
    @Martinsrulesd00d Рік тому

    I would never use a middle man, I don't want my cards touching any more hands then they need to be.

  • @mccabe8818
    @mccabe8818 Рік тому

    I don’t understand this, what is even the point of sending cards to a middle man when you can just send to psa directly?

    • @Wingafalei
      @Wingafalei Рік тому

      It was a UK based company, it makes it simpler for us international submitters

  • @Jakelol1980
    @Jakelol1980 Рік тому

    Im kind of happy that this has happened because this will likely cut the waiting in half if not even more.

  • @Fab1LouS
    @Fab1LouS Рік тому

    The good thing is everone will get his cards back.

    • @Jakelol1980
      @Jakelol1980 Рік тому +1

      No Ludkins wont tell PSA whos cards is whos so it looks like all cards will stay at PSA unless Ludkins will pay for the graded cards.

    • @Fab1LouS
      @Fab1LouS Рік тому

      @@Jakelol1980 PSA graded the cards already. Additionally PSA said that they will ship the cards without any further payment from Ludkins. PSA is in communication with PokeGeoDude for example. Everyone will get their cards back. Maybe it will take some more time.

    • @Jakelol1980
      @Jakelol1980 Рік тому

      @@Fab1LouS Wow thats great im so happy for all who sent there cards in :)

  • @mackeejack6731
    @mackeejack6731 Рік тому

    Blumpkins

  • @KelvinTrading
    @KelvinTrading Рік тому +1

    And this is why people should do the sending yourself don't pay people money for easy things you can do yourself. Its increasing the amount of risk involved its not a good idea to lett someone else do it for you. You want to get work done a good way do it yourself

    • @barracuda6817
      @barracuda6817 Рік тому

      @@UrAveragePlayer0 who cares. the turnaround time is substantially longer too. You get what you pay for

  • @shawlax
    @shawlax Рік тому

    i would have to disagree, ive been using a uk middle man for 2 years with 0 issues and based on the person / the safety nets put in place i have no issues when it comes to trust

    • @ohhave3586
      @ohhave3586 Рік тому

      I’m a uk collector as well, who do you use? I heard we were close to psa uk opening, will you just transfer over when that happens?

  • @Al_Dee
    @Al_Dee Рік тому

    Lmao el chapo

  • @Jugoplastika
    @Jugoplastika Рік тому

    @smpratte you miss one thing im in EU and they promise they will ship from Paris office as import taxes was his part of they job, reason i take them in first place, after two years they shock me saying no Paris anymore you need to pay taxes , and just say sorrry , thats all, imagine situation they late more then year and ppl from EU getting cards from paris but because they late that much in mean time they close paris office and we all from EU who wait more then others now we are punished and we need to pay taxes because they late , haha insaine just broke our deal and thats it, they say brexit is reason and its not , after brexit paris office still works they made that office because of brexit in first place , i ship one sub in UK when UK was in EU and second sub to paris it means i ship both time to eu now i will not get back cards from eu and i need to pay taxes and deal with customs

  • @brandonjeffi5976
    @brandonjeffi5976 Рік тому

    I don't understand, Pratt didn't you offer something like this? I remember you mentioning in videos that for a price people could send you cards for PSA submissions and you would include them in one of your bulk orders. I feel like it's been a few years since you mentioned it, and idk if it was a Patreon thing or what, but it seems very similar

  • @Zretgul_timerunner
    @Zretgul_timerunner Рік тому

    Not suprising sadly.
    And good riddance those who knows, knows this is not news to me or suprising.

  • @simongamer987
    @simongamer987 Рік тому

    Noonie Milk

  • @Syred123
    @Syred123 Рік тому

    I agree but in this situation PSA are to blame. They endorsed Ludkins as their UK submission center and branded them PSA UK officially on their website - in my mind if you affiliate yourself to that extent with a business you should have credit checked beforehand. Bad business by PSA in my books. I’d have honestly never used a 3rd party and had been submitting directly from the UK to the US before that but when the PSA officially change the narrative publicly it n their website then backtrack a few months later with stories coming out highlighting there seems to have been a problem for a while, why was that not picked up sooner?

  • @Dielonthug
    @Dielonthug Рік тому

    Middleman grading is for middleman people.

  • @codybarta1941
    @codybarta1941 Рік тому

    These Ludkins jerks still have two of my damn cards I sent in Oct. 2020. Livid

  • @thinkingchaka
    @thinkingchaka Рік тому

    Hey pratte I got a winning from you but I'm not sure if it's a scam from somebody else or not. Do you use telegram is how they are reaching out to me

    • @Mr.NiceGaius
      @Mr.NiceGaius Рік тому +1

      No, it’s a scam. He does not use telegram and there were a bunch of similar comments on his video before they all got removed.