I know Fabiano from an Online flash game, he was used to play for years, he IS a little trash talker, BUT unfortunately for him, he messed with the wrong one and lost badly over years about ! He learned a LOT from me, how to trash talk, BUT lost badly vs me every single time (about trash talking) ! ;-)
trashtalk in brain games like chess hurts more than video game trashtalk. especially because it insults your intelligence. even if you know youre stupid you still get hurt getting trashtalked after being scholars mated on blitz.
I mean magnus isnt really a trashtalking person, he's usually a gentlemen hence shown vs ding yesterday. If he wanted to he couldve just asked fabi how often he got world champ in any time form and it would be end of story anyway.
@@filucutie that's not even relevant to the topic or context lmao. He'd sound so fucking stupid if he asked that. Magnus didn't get the question right and said something that sounded like trash-talk. The tournament was irrelevant to their world championship title match. But Magnus said that Fabi needs to win it to even be at London (which is flat wrong), implying that Fabi can't even challenge him unless he has won tournaments with him in it. To which Fabi said he has won tournies with Magnus in it. Which he has.
Nah u are giving him ammo if u say that... He can say "soon to be my first time" or "I will give you the chance to be one of the guys to reclaim the title soon" or something
Wasnt ever much substance to those "wars" tbh, the East Coast was compeltely and utterly dominant up until the very moment both sides lost any sort of distinct identity as hip hop became more universal. People with differemt styles from all over the country. The thing is, for every great/legendary rapper from the West Coast, there was always AT LEAST 2 or 3 of similar or higher caliber from the East Coast, and honestly Pac, Cube, Aceyalone, and Del were the only West Coast rappers who could stand up to the better East Coast rappers artistically and otherwise, and even then Cube wasn't all that outstanding of a lyricist, but just a great artist.
Coming back to these kind of situations, the Ian & Magnus battle has been severely tame. Hindsight is everything but you could feel Fabi & Magnus were at the same level, this match it always felt like Ian would need to do something special to beat magnus
Yep, in fact, Magnus was explaining why it was NOT arrogant for him to say that the tournament didn't mean as much to him as it did for Fabi. Because Fabi needed it to qualify for the WC while Magnus didn't.
@@shapowlow I guess you're not very into sports because saying things like "if you ever get there" is pretty much a banter in any kind of sport, even if is a factual statment.
Le preguntaron a Fabiano que si significaba algo ganar contra Magnus en ese torneo de cara a lo que será los próximos eventos y que si sería importante para él. Fabiano responde que lo que llegue a pasar así como las veces anteriores no tiene relevancia con lo que sucederá después pero que obviamente una victoria es importante. Luego le preguntan a Magnus lo mismo y él responde que bueno que para él no es tan importate como para Fabiano para poder clasificar a las finales de Londres no para el campeonato mundial, tratando de clarificar cuál torneo Fabiano todavía tiene que clasificar. Pero Magnus no lo dijo con la intención de decir eso como diciendo que él no necesita el torneo o no es importante o relevante para él solo quería recalcar la importancia para Fabiano. El público es bien amarra navajas y empezó a hacer "uuuuuhhh" y fue que Fabiano igual lo vió con mal sentido y dijo: básicamente que le ha ganado en torneos anteriores y como que no iba hacer algo difícil ganarle. Y la respuesta de Magnus fue: que no lo dijo para tirar mierda solo lo dijo para clarificar cosas que son verdad sin ofender. Gracias por leer mi testamento.
I think Magnus was just trying to state the facts but the crowd can change intention and drive home a diss more than it should. Also Magnus may not be fully aware how his statement would come across, so we get this result.
I wasn't the biggest Magnus' fan when it comes to interviews, when I first and times to come heard him. As years passed Respect for his public appearances grew.
I missed this sort of line up man. When all adult play there, topalov, vishy, so, mvl, fabi, mag, hikaru, karjakin, levon, grischuk all there. Nowadays, tournament is dominated lot by alien kid, ali, nodirbek, pragg, arjun, etc
Yes, he's the most annoying and irrelevant commentator, always so judgemental. Look at how he treated Nepo during the world championship.. I mean, he's a bumhead.
Magnus is always disrespectful to every other chess player except Ding Liren. He used to be my favorite, but now I like him much less. I follow Hikaru and Caruana mostly because they reflect, in there conduct, how life should be lived. Edit: (My opinion 1 year later) Hikaru is a peace of💩. Ignore my ignorance
@@sporadicdrive5884 I've watched a few of hikarus youtube videos recently. He seems genuinely polite to people especially when he is teaching/coaching someone in chess.
0:41 - 0:57 Carlsen smoked Fabiano 1:02 - 1:09 Fabiano pissed and smoked Carlsen back 1:10 - 1:18 Carlsen realised he got smoked so,he played smart and smoked Fabiano back
Not what happened at all. Magnus just pulled a socially awkward move, he's not lying when he says he just meant to state a fact as answer to the question. Escalated by the interviewer for no reason.
I kinda believe magnus, and fabi’s reply sort of took him off guard. Magnus absolutely knows how aging fabi is and is not to be counted out in any circumstance.
Brilliant of them to do this! A little trash talk , taking some jabs in good fun to spice things up is great! Anything to create even more interest in this greatest game of all. Great to see a Chess boom too now, with Covid and "The Queen's Gambit".
A lot of people in comments doesn't have the context and thinks Magnus was actually trash talking. He meant he needs to win this tournament to qualify to World Chess Championship. When someone asks you what does this win mean to you? You can take it both ways actually. Like how happy are you? Or like what are you going to gain with it?
Magnus's isn't facial expression shows that he was going for the factual joke and not personal trash talk. I love it how the world champion and one of the best of all time is so humble and when he's being misunderstood and trash talked he's like yeah Fabi has proven himself true...🙏 Our boy Magnish Kaalicharan❤️
@@everytingYay Nah Fischer was a slave to chess. He couldn't escape from it and just play for fun, it was do or die for him. Magnus won't end up like Fischer.
John Ndung'u And how did Fischer end up? Are you still brainwashed by the media that he was cRaZy because he was angry and said a couple of aggressive and rude sentences about Jews?
John Ndung'u Fischer was a tool used by his country to show power against the Soviets during the Cold War. Fischer wasn’t playing for himself like he wanted to, he was forced to play for an ideal. The circumstances of Fischer and Magnus are not even close to the same
Mag: gives a check.
Fabi: Counter check.
Mag: that was not the point.
EL MAGNITO
😂🤣
He stalemated him
Alireza: [cries because he doesn't understand the language Magnus is speaking in]
He learned a LOT from me, how to trash talk, BUT lost badly vs me every single time (about trash talking) !
;-)
I am interested what kind of face Hikaru is having.
No face. This wasnt about him at all so he would have acted bored or something like that.
@@outerdimension7276 so basically this: encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSzZnkRmWfMkLWSJDT1PvWiuOPInsiwM-MC1A&usqp=CAU
I mean... I'm surprised he is even there. He used to laught due to people breathing, so...
1:09 He is chill, but I can't see his face clearly
First thought
For top level chess players this is practically brawling
Edit : having just seen the Nakamura Hansen clip it would appear that times are changing.
He got served and then serves him back so it's ON!!
It was extremely violent...
I know Fabiano from an Online flash game, he was used to play for years, he IS a little trash talker, BUT unfortunately for him, he messed with the wrong one and lost badly over years about !
He learned a LOT from me, how to trash talk, BUT lost badly vs me every single time (about trash talking) !
;-)
Lol
Link?
Thrash talking in chess is a different kind of flex
It's another level of brutal man!
No cap
trashtalk in brain games like chess hurts more than video game trashtalk. especially because it insults your intelligence.
even if you know youre stupid you still get hurt getting trashtalked after being scholars mated on blitz.
@@megugu2155 *>>>⁸[⁹9
0:54 That "OOOHHHHH" has to be Yasser😂😂
@@bishshoy and Jen goes "spicy" right after that lol
Haha Yess
Hell yes!!!
Definitly
LMAO definitely lol
I have watched so many caruana games on agadmators channel now and that is NOT what I expected his voice to sound like
OMG 100% agree. I imagined it far more... soft? And like... nerdy?
He sounds so serious and manly xD
I thought he would have an Italian accent or something like that 😂
Totally agreed, i also follow agad😂
Mee too
I know right?? Doesn’t match his face lol.
They need UFC style stare downs before the match
That shits so cringe
imagine hikaru in front of a 6 foot man
LOL for real
lmaoooo
Best. Recommendation. Ever.
seriously.. don't know how i missed this 😂
Notice how Magnus’ voice shakes when he says he didn’t mean to trash talk. He certainly didn’t anticipate such a savage reply by such a nice guy
No, he just really didnt mean to trash talk. 😉
I didnt hear and shakes
I mean magnus isnt really a trashtalking person, he's usually a gentlemen hence shown vs ding yesterday. If he wanted to he couldve just asked fabi how often he got world champ in any time form and it would be end of story anyway.
Did we watch the same video?
@@filucutie that's not even relevant to the topic or context lmao. He'd sound so fucking stupid if he asked that. Magnus didn't get the question right and said something that sounded like trash-talk.
The tournament was irrelevant to their world championship title match. But Magnus said that Fabi needs to win it to even be at London (which is flat wrong), implying that Fabi can't even challenge him unless he has won tournaments with him in it.
To which Fabi said he has won tournies with Magnus in it. Which he has.
"i didnt mean to trashtalk... but now that we are on it... how many times are you world champion fabi?"
😂😂😂😂
Imagine
LOL
Nah u are giving him ammo if u say that... He can say "soon to be my first time" or "I will give you the chance to be one of the guys to reclaim the title soon" or something
@@KARTIKEYA007 That would be weak
damn, next we need is carlsen vs mcgregor
J. Rogan: Ohhhhh, ohhhhhh Carlsen is hurt, ohhhhhh.
Connor would say he would win, and his fans would believe him AGAIN.
Connor would say I don't wanna smash fooking grandmaster😂😂
Magnus would bring up touch-butt with that dork in the park.
there is actually a crazy sport where they alternate boxing and chess
This reminds me of the East coast/West coast rap wars of the '90s.
😂😂😂
Pac is Magnus. Biggie is Fabi
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@aqikaxar9995 Ohter way around buddy
Wasnt ever much substance to those "wars" tbh, the East Coast was compeltely and utterly dominant up until the very moment both sides lost any sort of distinct identity as hip hop became more universal. People with differemt styles from all over the country. The thing is, for every great/legendary rapper from the West Coast, there was always AT LEAST 2 or 3 of similar or higher caliber from the East Coast, and honestly Pac, Cube, Aceyalone, and Del were the only West Coast rappers who could stand up to the better East Coast rappers artistically and otherwise, and even then Cube wasn't all that outstanding of a lyricist, but just a great artist.
This guys need to be state leaders. Look at their diplomacy.
and then 12 draws
And then 3 losses 😂
Fact?
@@themitickgamer yes, facts !
Lol you gotta love world class chess players lol
Smooth jab by Fabi
Magnus took a full blow but he is still on his feet
The refere : Lord Ashley Smooth separates the fighter
Ashley Smooth games hahahaha I understand that reference!
I think Magnus's response to Fabi was extremely humble and classy. Seems really obvious he wasn't trying to put him down at all.
lol
Yes he was.
Bro he knew
1:36 Grischuk sitting there thinking: "Thats a trashtalk??? Oh, cute..."
True
Get over it. Carlsen wasn't trying to diss him. He just genuinely expressed his opinion.
Autism
Coming back to these kind of situations, the Ian & Magnus battle has been severely tame. Hindsight is everything but you could feel Fabi & Magnus were at the same level, this match it always felt like Ian would need to do something special to beat magnus
Its because Magnus and Nepo are close friends as well.
Honestly, the crowd is a bit toxic. Turned a pretty neutral statement into a banter.
yup. he just said fabi needed to win to qualify for London tour, no trashtalk there.
Yep, in fact, Magnus was explaining why it was NOT arrogant for him to say that the tournament didn't mean as much to him as it did for Fabi. Because Fabi needed it to qualify for the WC while Magnus didn't.
you are toxic, calling others toxic
@@shapowlow I guess you're not very into sports because saying things like "if you ever get there" is pretty much a banter in any kind of sport, even if is a factual statment.
Magnus played a gambit,
Fabiano takes,
Magnus checks
Next step is basically start throwing the pieces at each other.
Le preguntaron a Fabiano que si significaba algo ganar contra Magnus en ese torneo de cara a lo que será los próximos eventos y que si sería importante para él. Fabiano responde que lo que llegue a pasar así como las veces anteriores no tiene relevancia con lo que sucederá después pero que obviamente una victoria es importante. Luego le preguntan a Magnus lo mismo y él responde que bueno que para él no es tan importate como para Fabiano para poder clasificar a las finales de Londres no para el campeonato mundial, tratando de clarificar cuál torneo Fabiano todavía tiene que clasificar. Pero Magnus no lo dijo con la intención de decir eso como diciendo que él no necesita el torneo o no es importante o relevante para él solo quería recalcar la importancia para Fabiano. El público es bien amarra navajas y empezó a hacer "uuuuuhhh" y fue que Fabiano igual lo vió con mal sentido y dijo: básicamente que le ha ganado en torneos anteriores y como que no iba hacer algo difícil ganarle. Y la respuesta de Magnus fue: que no lo dijo para tirar mierda solo lo dijo para clarificar cosas que son verdad sin ofender. Gracias por leer mi testamento.
Gracias bro
Gracias por la traducción
Gracias Bro
Gracias
Gracias por la traducción amigo
I think Magnus was just trying to state the facts but the crowd can change intention and drive home a diss more than it should. Also Magnus may not be fully aware how his statement would come across, so we get this result.
Specially when english is not his main language XD.
True very true, Magnus is humourous but people misunderstand everything he says for humour that it can put him in quite a spot 😂
No, ever heard Keep My Name Out Your Mouth?
Magnus was not being factual though... Caruana didn't need to win this tournament to get a shot at the title
He needed to win to get to london, I don't doubt magnus, he would know all about his opponents
Fabi. A low key savage. I love it!
I wasn't the biggest Magnus' fan when it comes to interviews, when I first and times to come heard him.
As years passed Respect for his public appearances grew.
Ooooh. Chess banter! 😆😆
I wish top chess players trash talked more...the hype the spice umm
Mag’s response at the end was a hell of a check mate !
More like a resign
It’s interesting that google’s captions think “Magnus” is “madness”.
They aren't that wrong though
Madness Carlsen vs Fabiano Corona
Madness Carlsen. I like it.
“Well the last few months I’ve generally won the tournaments in which Magnus is playing in sooooo” 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 ouch! 😂
Yes but he lost tho. And we Norwegians speak direct. He dont trash talk he dont need to. We just state the facts. Simple
@@Jan.Martin.BrendenSharing the nationality with a person doesnt make you better
@@pds4 Im not saying that. Keep on topic. I explain how a typical Norwegian mindset is. So people understand hes view.
Journalist says "Things are getting hot here", the time that things were getting their normal temperature again. Yes, journalists, I know...
He is not a random journalist though. He is a GM himself as well, Maurice Ashley.
@@leventunver how does that change anything
@@Pedro-op6zj it doesnt change anything but he certainly doesn't deserve to be referred as "a journalist" either.
So did you want him to start commenting stuff in the middle of their exchange??
This made me think about a UFC style photo shoot between the finals participants of tournaments 😂
That would be gay just like ufc itself
@@josephjoestar4633 you sound like a fucking ignoramus, erasing almost all doubt that you are one, in fact.
*Agadmator: Captures, captures.*
As they are talking all I hear is...
Check...
Check...
Checkmate.
I missed this sort of line up man. When all adult play there, topalov, vishy, so, mvl, fabi, mag, hikaru, karjakin, levon, grischuk all there. Nowadays, tournament is dominated lot by alien kid, ali, nodirbek, pragg, arjun, etc
Magnus was obviously being sarcastic but the crowd turned them on each other
Man, this is really intense. This is chess equivalent of a prefight brawl.
If you notice closely, Maurice is always the reason for such brawls
Yes, he's the most annoying and irrelevant commentator, always so judgemental. Look at how he treated Nepo during the world championship.. I mean, he's a bumhead.
@@psychozirus9085 lmao He is big league something you will never be.
Caruana honestly gives me a scientists vibes with his bright big eyes
Everytime
@@ishantmehta8453 I swear to god I've never seen that bright eyes
@@mrinmoysen3860 looks like he just came out of lab after a successful experiment..
Or a successful magnojab?
I say the culprit is the old man in the centre. "Trash Talk" he says
Things getting how because the sun is reflecting on that super shiny Maurice’s gargantuan dome
1:27 guy in the middle "chodo mutter paneer par concentrate karo"
😂😂😂
1:02 magnus's face says that he didn't mean to trash talk
Yeah the crowd didn’t help at all.
i mean, says also something about his character, if this was his normal way of talking
"I wasn't meaning to trash talk". Maybe, maybe not, but you knew how it would be perceived.
That's always a good way to get out of something after you lost off the bat.
Magnus is always disrespectful to every other chess player except Ding Liren. He used to be my favorite, but now I like him much less. I follow Hikaru and Caruana mostly because they reflect, in there conduct, how life should be lived.
Edit: (My opinion 1 year later) Hikaru is a peace of💩. Ignore my ignorance
@@everytingYay 100% agree
@@everytingYay Fabi I can agree with, but Hikaru's way of conducting himself is questionable
@@sporadicdrive5884 I've watched a few of hikarus youtube videos recently. He seems genuinely polite to people especially when he is teaching/coaching someone in chess.
This is chess equivalent of a fist fight.😂
Damn magnus didnt really even think that he made such "brave" comment, he is really smart.
I wish Fabio was like "that's right you better apologise"😂😂
Wait chess is on HBO now? How cool!
This is the chess equivalent of conor mcgregors “who da fook is that guy” press conference
*"I meant to state something factual"*
This my friend, is the savagest way you could've completed your trash talk 😂😂😂
Nowhere as sick as that Fabi's comeback
nah, was poor
Magnus : *Explaining how Fabi needs the win to get to London*
Crowd : *Laughs*
Magnus : *Confused Laughter*
This is great we need more WWE style trash talk in chess 😂
This is "tense" situation in chess, compare now to "tense" situations before fighting in MMA / Box...
Screw that... Chess tense situations are much more funnier
Compare it to World War II
Everyone was laughing when magnus started answering
This is savage level 10 for chess players. Further escalation would result in a squirt gun fight.
Fabiano was legit about to get up and fuckin swing on Magnus. Bout to hand Magnus a nap.
He shaved his beared
This is old
I didn't understand what Carlsen meant when he said "Being the Grand chess final tour, not the world championship"
Wow such a surprising come back from Fabi... who would expect that
Great comeback from Fabi there.
The crowd goes wild
Specially Yasser.
Crowd made it happen
Magnus is such a troll xd
Magnus certainly got trolled
0:41 - 0:57 Carlsen smoked Fabiano
1:02 - 1:09 Fabiano pissed and smoked Carlsen back
1:10 - 1:18 Carlsen realised he got smoked so,he played smart and smoked Fabiano back
Thanks for the timestamps!
@@LeventK np bro🔥👌
Not what happened at all. Magnus just pulled a socially awkward move, he's not lying when he says he just meant to state a fact as answer to the question. Escalated by the interviewer for no reason.
Probably the best check mate ever 😂
virgin fabi vs chad magnus
I kinda believe magnus, and fabi’s reply sort of took him off guard. Magnus absolutely knows how aging fabi is and is not to be counted out in any circumstance.
0:47
You can even hear someone saying "trash talk" 😂
Magnus is always playing mind games
Dfg Sdfg I know right lol
I like the way the man in the middle drinks after the heat.
Just like Apollo Creed and Rocky in their pre match pressconferences
Imagine if Conor McGregor was a chess player and he was at the press conference. YOU'LL DO FUKIN NOTHING
Loooool
1:05 Magnus pulls a H I K A R U Face
All that trash talk b4 a chess tournament weigh in. So civilized.
And RN Hikaru Nakamura is LAUGHING REAL FUCKING LOUD .
I think it was a simple non-native language moment where one doesnt pick up clues. Like when someone says „i dont care“ instead of „i dont mind“.
Magnus is such a savage haha
He got a savage reply , he couldn't digest.. lol
He doesn't take it nearly as well he dishes it.
Brilliant of them to do this! A little trash talk , taking some jabs in good fun to spice things up is great! Anything to create even more interest in this greatest game of all. Great to see a Chess boom too now, with Covid and "The Queen's Gambit".
Wow, Hikaru is such a small man
Magnus is so smart everyone missed his point and thought it was trash talk lol
Sure, being arrogant is unnatural to his personality.
@@regzzuse280?D
dudes, Grievous is using *sarcasm* xd
What exactly was his genius point that everyone missed? He was stating the obvious
same trash talk we are used to hear by UFC fighters
A lot of people in comments doesn't have the context and thinks Magnus was actually trash talking. He meant he needs to win this tournament to qualify to World Chess Championship.
When someone asks you what does this win mean to you? You can take it both ways actually. Like how happy are you? Or like what are you going to gain with it?
Ashley is the Dana White of chess
Good banter right there.
Awesome!!!!!!
Hikaru : Take, Take..yup draw
I think he meant that Fabi literally needed to win the tournament to qualify for the grand chess tour lol
Magnus's isn't facial expression shows that he was going for the factual joke and not personal trash talk.
I love it how the world champion and one of the best of all time is so humble and when he's being misunderstood and trash talked he's like yeah Fabi has proven himself true...🙏
Our boy Magnish Kaalicharan❤️
yooo sad
bruh
Hahaha... Magnus trollsen, but Fabi is such a good guy, he wouldn't be angry about that at all.
There should be more trash talk in chess lol I love it
Nice comeback Caruana.
Didn't like the question and polemic incitation by Ashley
Magnus just made an in between(Zwischenzug) but Fabi missed the tactic completely
So now chess is becoming like the UFC with all the trash talking to hype things up 😂
I'm ok with it. Different groups and different generations will set their own style.
Fabi is such a confident young man. Magnus sometimes tries to hard to impress people. Both are phenomenal players though
Lives in his own world. He'll end up just like Bobby Fischer
@@everytingYay Nah Fischer was a slave to chess. He couldn't escape from it and just play for fun, it was do or die for him. Magnus won't end up like Fischer.
@@MrTVx99 exactly my point, and that's everything wrong with Magnus
John Ndung'u And how did Fischer end up? Are you still brainwashed by the media that he was cRaZy because he was angry and said a couple of aggressive and rude sentences about Jews?
John Ndung'u Fischer was a tool used by his country to show power against the Soviets during the Cold War. Fischer wasn’t playing for himself like he wanted to, he was forced to play for an ideal. The circumstances of Fischer and Magnus are not even close to the same
Poor Magnus :(
Why?
Excuse me? Magnus is very rich.
He is the world champion and basically owns chess 24.. 😒
Lol poor can mean more than just a lack of wealth :D
@@gabrielpianolad2462 I thought no one would take my bait :P
Sorry, I thought you actually meant it :P
Like before a box fight
MAGNUS CARLSEN AND FABIANO CARUANA TENSE SITUATION!
Both players are smiling by the end of the video.
I want chess to turn into professional wrestling
There is already chess with boxe