How to Make a Soup Can Forge
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2013
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This video shows how to make a simple and inexpensive tabletop forge out of a soup can with a plaster lining. The forge runs off of a common propane torch (spiral flame will work better than pencil flame) that can be bought at any hardware store. The question has been asked about what sand can be used. Any sand.
The exact torch used in this video is a Bernzomatic TS8000, you can purchase the same torch here (this is an affiliate link): ebay.to/1F2HEiM
The idea for this video was inspired by this website, so take a look: www.zoellerforge.com/coffee.html
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Hey, I just wanted to say that I followed your tutorial and made one of these 7 years back, when I was in high school. You set me down a blacksmithing rabbit hole, which evolved into an engineering degree as time went on. I really gotta give you props man, you’re truly one of the OG content creators in my book. Thank you, and keep being excellent :)
A great example of how to make a 'how to make' video. No crap music, straightforward commentary and well prepared. Others should make a note because THIS IS HOW YOU DO A 'HOW TO MAKE' VIDEO
i agree
I agree, short, to the point and good filming.
Simples.
dont forget how the materials are actually something you can buy without calling some polish company based in krakow
Buy... or find lying around at home. (blow torch not included in that)
Totally agree. No 10 minute intro talking about wife and kids and how you're feeling right now, blah blah blah
I made one of these a few years ago, and surprisingly it is still around. It still makes cool stuff sometime
I just want to say that i love your zanza's profile pic
"Plenty hot for forging steel"
Something about the idea of forging steel in a soup can on my kitchen table makes me laugh.
Clever idea. Very well done video! Excellent video quality, narration and step by step instruction. And all in less than 4 minutes. Impressive!
Wow! Hopefully in the next few months I will share some of my older metal working sculptures. Have to keep things spicy on Google. Nice videos!
Great video...straight to the point, easy to follow instructions, just the bare bones for the topic - unlike so many folks who 'ramble on' as if we tuned in just to hear their voice.
The inventiveness of this kind of stuff gives me hope for this country. Now if only I knew what to use a forge for. Thanks for the info.
Ben you are amazing. You make science and learning fun. Your ideas are so incredible. Thank you. Keep up the fun.
Thanks Scott! Much appreciated
Years after first watching this video I'm going to make one of these today. Though I've decided to forgo the plaster of paris for refractory cement which is meant to work at 1500-3000* to begin with.
I have plaster of Paris and sand to hand or do you think refractory cement is better
I did this with a 55 gallon drum rather than a soup can to make a full sized forge and it works great :D
I had the same exact idea, I was just trying to figure out how you would support it.Can I ask ,how did you support it?
Christian McIlhenny he probably just joking...but using siple bar stock ...or 90' angle bars would work
i used an old engine stand
been searching on diy metal forging, and this guy has the simplest, genius method.but i would really pack that plaster/sand mix tightly. what a great way to get it done. you rock man.
ive been looking for years on how to do this and you're the only person to show it in such depth, thank you so much
The Modern Rogue brought me here
Bro that is soooo cool. But would it work if i used concrete instead of the sand and plaster mixture?
Nadeem Kablawi no. The concrete could have water and since it isn't porous it can explode
DONT! It will blow up in shards.
Absolutely Nobody oh shit I think we are too late this guy died from the explosion
I love this!! Thank you so much! The way you explain leaves nothing to chance...excellent work!
...This is AWESOME!!! I found this by accident but have wondered about a forge and never remembered to look it up when I get onto the computer. Thank you, I love this video.
Hello NightHawkInLight
I saw this video on a Facebook post. Are you affiliated with a Facebook page called "The Wilderness Depot"? If not, they are using your video, thought you might want to know.
+Mellow Robinson Also saw this on Facebook.
NightHawkInLight, if you're not apart of the Facebook page, I would suggest trying to report them and taking it down as people are stealing your videos
+Mellow Robinson I am not. Thank you for the heads up, people steal this video all the time.
+rasgul Not sure if this question is still unanswered for you but I have plans to build a soup can forge and also a coffee can forge, having one of each size offers a bit of flexibility, and the torch is interchangeable between the two. .
+NightHawkInLight Think about putting on a water mark near a corner as these are hard to remove from videos.
+NightHawkInLight a group on Facebook also is using your bullpup airsoft gun video. they are called "A Bit of Everything" just saw it today
Why is Machinima at the very end of the video?
Illuminati.
@@SugarBombs89 genius
I thought they only did gaming channels, but Machinima used to be a partner network on YT.
Clear, concise, well narrated and clean video. Good job, thanks.
For an even larger application I have used a larger coffee can. This allows for a large heating area inside. I still used a narrow opening to restrict the heat from exiting the furnace. Thank you for the video. Excellent!!!
Can i use fireproof refractory cement instead of the plaster?
Forjam yes
Satanite refractory cement would be ideal and and also some glass wool but I think the aim was to make one as cheaply as possible. I have sand and plaster. Satanite is expensive in comparison to 0 £'s.
would it work with a bigger can? like the large heinz tomato juice cans?
Probably, but you might need a different ratio of the plaster on the inside. (It's just a guess. I'm not an expert so you shouldn't take my word for it.)
You probably shouldn't use a much bigger can. Because how forges work is they concentrate a massive amount of heat into a very small area. That's why a big 2 foot X 2 foot forge will only have like a one square inch or so working area. That's why when blacksmiths make swords and stuff, they work the metal only two inches at a time. So a larger forge will be much less hot and powerful.
Fargraven
Look up full size forge plans.
It should but you might need a larger torch
Thank you so much for this video. At the end of this month, I'll be taking bladesmithing classes. I definitely will build this.
Thank you for the simple break of the build. I will be making one this weekend.
Great demonstration video. Have you considered using water for fuel Brown's gas that is called HHO Gas? HHO Gas is pure hydrogen and oxygen through electrolysis the waters pulled apart into hydrogen and oxygen gas. When this HHO Gas fire flame comes in contact with any surface, what took minutes to heat up only take seconds. 1 gallon water produces 1700 gallons of HHO Gas.
no one gallon of water will produce 1 gallon of HHO. The space taken up by the gas state of Hydrogen and oxygen will be greater but the volume will remain constant.
that'll be to fast to maintain metal integrity and may damage the metal it's self.
***** You mean the mass will remain constant, not the volume. The volume by definition is how much space the gas takes up, which will of course be greater than the volume of an equal mass of liquid water.
Isn't it evident enough that NightHawkInLight knows his stuff? I'm so tired of seeing oxyhydrogen-related propaganda/misinformation on youtube! It's a subtle form of spam...
***** I'm going to jump the gun here and assume that you're talking about the typical electrolysis that I see spread around youtube, which involves using electrolytes (salts) (or not, but relying entirely upon electricity the same as the ones that use salts). You may want to find out how much electricity is actually needed to convert 2H2O to 2H2 + O2.
A little physics for you: If you dump electricity into water, you'll boil the water. If you dump electricity into saltwater, you'll boil the water and the salt will remain as crystals. Water vapour (steam) is neither oxygen gas nor hydrogen gas. You might get a tiny amount of hydrogen & oxygen, but not in an immediately useful form and certainly not a useful amount.
Commercial water electrolysis sources tend to use a different method involving some non-electrical source of heat (eg. nuclear radiation) to preheat the water to at least 800C (1600F) and pressurise the resulting steam before hitting it with a current. That's high temperature electrolysis operating WELL above boiling point, and your salts become pointless at that point because they'll just crystallise when the water evaporates, well before the point of splitting. Why so much heat?
A little chemistry for you: If you have two different plates of metal dipped into an electrolyte solution, you have a wet cell battery. If you dump too much charge into it, you're abusing it by overcharging. Overcharging wet cell batteries does cause a tiny amount of electrolysis at comparatively low temperatures, but it's very inefficient, yielding no more than 5% hydrogen and no less than 95% steam. Your
We have Brown's gas - HHO Gas Machines that produce 300 Liters per hour all the way up to 10,200 Liters per hour of HHO Gas. We are setting up a HHO machine at a automobile shop to do engine carbon cleaning machine that produces 93 L per minute of HHO Gas. This machine will be delivering gas to multiple automobile bays for doing bodywork and also engine carbon cleaning from a central HHO Gas delivery system. Professional grade HHO Gas machines for sale worldwide.
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I am now buying the materials to make this... I am gonna be ready for the zombie apocalypse
***** you won't win a war with arrowheads alone. Making a bow is also a skill
Zombies are basically never going to happen, and you're not going to have the appropriate fuels for this lying around for long. If you want some kind of apocalypse-proof system, I'd go with charcoal. Charcoal is relatively easy to make, and has been used for thousands and thousands of years. It also burns hot enough to do metalwork. On top of that, it has other uses, such as helping to filter air and water, and is a basic way of helping to neutralize ingested poisons. It's a common practice medically, but they use activated carbon, which basically is just a lot more effective. Charcoal in general has been used for a long time.
And no, you probably don't want to be making arrows or bows in an apocalypse, esp. a zombie apocalypse. They're hard to make well enough for them to actually be useful (read: accurate), and an arrow isn't going to do much to a zombie.
I don't know much about zombies, but in a'normal' apocalypse, if you get a strong enough bow, you could be quite irritating, especially with a large group. And there are ways to make relatively good bows in a couple of minutes, not kidding.
ilikethisfood The arrows are more important than the bow, and good arrows are hard to make. If you do it wrong, you're going to get a very inaccurate weapon. In any situation that matters, you can't afford to be inaccurate. You're better off dying if you're going to be attacking people, or, for hunting purposes, going with throwing weapons.
seigeengine Yes, I agree on that, i tried it myself many times, it certainly is harder than it looks.
The guy's voice and video style remind me of kipkay
I really like this build, me and my friend are really into knives and I have been wanting to find a forge that is easy to make and effective, thanks for the video
How long does this forge run on one bottle of propane?
It lasts long enough to make like 2 knifes
Or 2 knives.
If I had money I would be a regular at home depot
this the simplest and easiest homemade forge i have seen on youtube. great job and i am on the way to making my own.
i have no idea how you can think of stuff like this, its awsome, and your videos are very cool.
How safe is this?
Not very , the Calcium sulphate ( plaster of Paris) breaks down at high temperature to form Calcium oxide and the SO3- ion, this reacts with water in the air to make sulphuric acid vapour.
How do I know this?
I made this in my garage and was violently ill for 3-4 days due to the fumes. Breaking difficulties, dizziness, vomiting.
If you do make this, do it outside, or make one out of perlite and refractory cement.
Ollie Robs Where the hell are you getting these chemistry "facts" from? Because everything you just said is complete bullshit.
Chris Valdez I have a well ventilated work area, how ever I have just upgraded the extraction system. However, I will still never do this indoors again, as I am mentally scared by how ill I was!
Sean Confer I study Chemistry at University. I have been researching energetic materials and energetic chemicals recently. I can use my knowledge of thermal decomposition to figure out what it going on. One of my hobbies is, metal casting; Copper, Silver, Aluminium, Brass etc. So I know a lot about refractory materials, as I have 3 homebuilt foundry's that are all capable of melting copper. Made of nothing more than perlite, normal cement, and fine sand.
CaSO4(s) ==> CaO(s) + SO3(g)
Or the SO3 reacts with H20 to form H2SO4(g)
The SO3 further decomposes to SO2 and O2.
2SO3(g) ==> 2SO2(g) + O2(g)
Stay safe all.
If that's the case, and you knew all about it, then why would you think its a good idea to do this in an enclosed garage? From what you claim, you know the risks, so if that's true, then I don't understand how you were able to expose yourself? Let alone perform the experiment in the first place. I'm guessing you either are lying about what you study, or you are lying about actually making this. Either way, I was just wondering.
baht to heet soup all U need is stove. seems liek a lot work for soup.
=_=
ryan atanacio going sleep is no help 4 U :-(
HAHAHAHHA this comment is amazing
Your tutorial helped me make a
Nice coffee can forge with some modification. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for sharing! This video was really informative and entertaining. I am an aspiring blacksmith and this is an excellent first step to take considering my low budget. Also, definitely get the TS8000 swirling flame torch head, I found using the pencil flame simply doesn't generate enough heat.
Keep up the good work!
I lost it when he said pipe nipple...
I paused the video and laughed really hard xD
i lost him when he said hole....
nothing innapropiate just really really confused
It's a cool design for a little forge, but the choice of material is very poor. When you drive off water from plaster of Paris you're left with calcium sulphate. This compound decomposes at the temperatures this forge provides. You get calcium oxide and sulphur trioxide, which is basically sulphuric acid without a molecule of water. It is a highly corrosive substance you don't want to breathe in even if it's given off in small amounts, and it makes the steel brittle.
Refractory materials of choice are bentonite, perlite, fireclay, silica sand. Not sulphurous compounds.
Nah.
I call bullshit.
Great video man, very detailed and really straight forward. looking through the comments I see a lot of negative feedback but really people if u were so smart, why in the world are u sitting there watching UA-cam videos on how to make a forge. this man has took his time to show the one of us out there that love this "hobby" how to do something on a low budget and I believe it is a great project, just made mine last night, although I did use a large coffee can instead of the soup can so I could make bigger projects. I have not used it yet, but I am going to be using a 20lb propane tank for my fuel source just so I have a lot more work time. I will be making a video of the finished product when I get my tank refilled . But anyways great video friend and thanks for the great idea!!!!
Wow I can't believe that even I CAN do this! It's great to see this stuff!
0:58 HAH, he said nipple
You are so immature!
Cue the 'Beavis and Buthead' laughing.
This is a great tool for survival!!! Nice job Night Hawk!
This is the kind of genius that the world needs. Way to go! 👌
I just finished making this forge 10 min ago. It works great! I am so subscribing!
Very nice, very simple forge. Superb instructional video too.
Perfectly simple. Great work.
Your videos are always so helpful and interesting
A very well done, even professional video! Man, this could go on the DIY network, or something.. super job, man!
Thank you so much for the step by step explanation! I've been looking for a how-to for a small scale forge and this completely fits the bill! I also like your cheap alternative for the insulated walls! I'm glad I've subscribed to your channel!
I tried this experiment, and it works quite well, nice job!
you have the best channel ever! all your videos are so interesting and informative.
Cannot wait to have the opportunity to apply this.
Go NightHawk!
Just finished my forge and works like a trooper... Cheers mate...
Great video, you have inspired me, I'm gonna make one myself. Got a few tweaks in mind. A deeper tomato juice can with 4 L brackets cause I can see the plaster cracking if bumped. Definitely a bigger base for stability and a rest for whatever you are placing in the forge.
I made a slightly modified version of this when I took up knife making (not forging like the video, but starting with metal stock and filing away everything thats not a knife) and needed a way to heat treat knives in my apartment.
Mine was made with the bottom 3/4 of a 2 liter coke bottle as the outside form and a coke can as the inside form, and I used a runnier mix of plaster/sand so I could pour it in. When I dried I pealed off the 2 liter and ripped out the coke can and chiselled a hole for the blow torch and it works great. I just set it sideways on my oven rack since I didn't build the stand.
It has now officially heat treated 3 O1 tool steel knives perfectly. And to Stephanie Morgan, yes it can definatly melt lead.
Nice! A very VERY simple and cheaply made forge. Excellent video.
Thanks for the info!!!! Just built one out of a coffee can. Will post video when I have a chance.
Genius! And superb editing!
I will probably never do anything like this but this is so cool to watch. Your voice is great aswell. Keep it up!
This was so cool! I actually managed to do this, and I have it in my back yard at home.
This is awesome! I'm gonna build one this summer, and when I make knives, I can finally heat treat them properly!
I made this and it works great. Thanks for the instructions.
Wooow! One of your best, really liked it, I'm going to test it soon.
Clear concise instructions . Thank you Sir ...
Hey Nighthawkinlight! So my dad and I decided to build this this weekend and it works great! I was able to make a karambit out of a wrench. Thanks for the awesome video!!!
make a video showing your kbofe
+Relevant okay :D it's super ugly doe
You build some awesome things man.
That is amazing!! Thanks for sharing. I will be sure to add the directions to my list of prep ideas.
Excellent home-make project
My nine year old son and i will be doing this today. But we will be using a paint can. We will post results later. Thank you for the informative video.
Excellent video. Very informative. I'm glad I found your site.
Very economical and if it doesn't last more than a couple of sessions then it is cheap enough to throw out and make another.
I remember using this as a source in high school for a manufacturing project to make a scaled up version, turns out they only recently replaced it with a newer one.
Great video.
GJ on your invention! It looks so cool I am about to try it!
Sir you have just saved me a lot of money. Thank you
You just made my day with this one. Thank you so much!
Amazing.Thank you very much for this technique
For my first forge that's all I need, once I get better at it then I can build a bigger one. Thanks for the video.
I really like your videos you explain in them very well
love this, so easy but looks fantastic, gotta make one
Thanks for a very useful and money saving idea xx
loved this video.. such a simple to make amazing idea thanks for sharing...this will be a project of mine very soon...
This is great. No cancer causing glass wool, no expensive satanite plaster.
I will give this a go. No big Cambells soup cans here in the UK so will use an old paint tin.
Perfect project😃
Thanks.
Keep up the great work! I really appreciate you and your experiments! ❤
Thank you!
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing your tecnique.
Wow your really smart, I'm going to try this hopefully it's not too expensive for all the parts. Thanks for the video
Thanks for the video man i made q charcoal forge for knife making but this will come in handy for hear treating and things like that. Thanks again.
Very good job .Will share it right now on Facebook
Just adding my two cents after researching making forges, I think the inlet for the torch should be closer to the front and angled backward so that when the blade is in it the thick part by the handle is nearest to the flame and the thinnest part by the tip is away from the heat. This will allow for a more even heating. Other than that I built this and it works great, though I did build a housing for it out of fire bricks instead of the brackets.
Nice anvil/vice!
And very nice little forge, great tutorial!
Hey NightHawkInLight! I would love to see a video on how to forge glass! That would be cool and helpful.
Great invention!
Thanks for posting, very useful.
Great Job, Keep up with the amazing videos
Neat video - I learned some & see other applications - got the thought process working, thx.
Sweet!Me and my cousin loved this vid!
dude that is awesome. keep on making videos I really appreciate it
Made it, loved it, went on ad now blacksmith with a brake drum forge. Regular dirt works and the pipe nipple is a bad idea, just punch a hole that will fit your torch as the pipe nipple gets red hot and cracks if cooled too fast
Impressive! Thanks for posting.
Awesome....just what i have been needing. Great for forging silver jewelry work.
Very cool. Awsome job!