2019 KTM 1290 SUPER DUKE GT REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2019
- 2019 KTM 1290 Super Duke GT review - the Super Duke GT is meant to be the touring incarnation of KTM's 'Beast', the 1290 Super Duke. But does it live up to the hype?
I've been lucky enough to ride the KTM Superduke GT for a couple of weeks and cover a few thousand miles. After my initial thoughts vid - link available below, I've had a chance to get to know this insane machine, so here are my thoughts.
KTM Super Duke GT 2019 Review - First Ride
• KTM Super Duke GT 2019...
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Very professional and honest review. In keeping with the individual. This is good stuff.
Happy travels.
Enjoyed a lot this video. Thank you for that. Due to the free and honest opinion, and views of the subject. You also summarized very well the diferences between this GT and the BMW GS 1200 R or 1250 R, and I think you’re full of reason about the general matters involved. I subscribed the channel and hope you keep up doing this well thought and useful videos👏👏👏
Thanks Brito 🙏👍
A great real world review that should help anyone considering either bike. On a similar sort of theme when I changed my previous GS for a new one the salesman said they had a few customers who changed from a GS to a S1000XR only to change back to a GS as once the honeymoon period was over they decided they preferred the GS which was good for the dealer but not the customers bank balance. However he said that in contrast XR riders didn't swap to a GS so the different AV bikes available don't necessarily suit everyone and it's expensive if you get it wrong.
Another great vid Bruce. I think it's only natural you compare your current bike to the one your testing, because it's your reference point. I found myself comparing my GS to the S1000RR M-Package at times.
Nice to see a video that presents the pros and cons..proper journalism. I was considering a Super Duke but find it lacking in wind protection. Also, it seemed geared very tall..4th or maybe 5th felt good at paralegal highway speeds..6th for the autobahn, but I live in Canada..read..short summers and restrictive speed limits
Good review..love the KTM but the Gs is a dream to ride..Keep the videos coming..🤟🏻✌🏻
Cheers Rodders 👍
Excellent informative vid. Just found you on here and subscribed. Was looking for reviews on this bike and really helpful. Swapping in a handful of bikes for one all rounder, hear what you say but the fun quirk factor and looks make it my number 1 choice, now I just have to find that mega deal.....cheers
Cheers and welcome to the channel.
There’ll be some mega deals as the new 2020 GT is released now too 👍
More wise words from teapot
Great review mate that is how it’s done 👍
Thanks John, that’s very kind bud 🙏👍
Excellent, balanced review. Hard to argue the GS vs GT comparison. I am a fan of both brands for all the reasons you mention.
Thanks Paul 👍
Great video, keep them coming.
Cheers David 👍
Ok Bruce, you have teased us already a few times with your mint looking VW T2, it really deserves a proper vid on it's own, don't you think?!
Oh and I've not been able to concentrate on your words from about 11:38 because of the thing on your face...it really has a mind of it's own right? Don't you poke your self with it sometimes 🤣🤣🙈
Oh yeah good review, and your montages are getting better with every vid 🤘
Ha Ha, the beard is actually starting to get in the way now, it works its way everywhere!!!
Thanks for your comments on the vid, glad you’re still enjoying them 👍
Bruce...mate...ye cuda brushed the wind oot yir beard afore ye set the camera up for "a chat" !! 😂👍 Love ure vids mate, catchin up wae older vids now. Great stuff. 😁👍💚
Haw big man, grand wee video review of the ktm tasty looking bike agree on look of headlight. Keep up the great vids still filling my days with youtube and daytime telly. Aw the bes5the haund less weegie
Cheers John 😉👍
Great Video!, and I agree with you:). I own a GT and a 1250 GS. If you like traveling very long distances with or without a Missy, the GS is indeed the bike to go, If you like sport and being a hooligan, and do not like to be folded up on a superbike, then the GT is your tool. The only thing I do not like about the GS is that it starts to pump in long speedy corners (+160 km/h), the KTM is more stable at those speeds.
However, do not get me wrong both bikes are good tools to slide your knee in low-speed (80-90 km/h) switchbacks in the German Eifel region, although you would not expect that from a GS, the KTM needs more hanging-off to achieve that, once the speed goes up, it's all GT terrain. Once again good honest review.
Thank you Matheus 👍
Hi, I am intrigued as to why you have two similar bikes ... I know they are different but not drastically.. you could have one of them and a really different one .. panigale etc
As an ex-Met and current Queensland Traffic Cop I am highly enjoying your videos. Thanks ex-DPG Rich Catley for the recommendation. Keep up the great work. 🇬🇧🇦🇺🥇😎
Ha Ha oh Jesus mate distance yourself from that deviant if you want to keep your job! 😂😂
He’s a top bloke, for an oversized midget on steroids 😉
And a ginger
Can't wait for the R1250GS review !!! ...part 2 :)
good video.. not sure your Gt vs GS math is bang on .. but all the best and keep it up... looking forward to new vids
Not sure why you'd compare the GS to the GT.. not the same class of bike. However, nice review.
I've got a GT and love it, the quickshifter, I find is best when you want to shift quickly, i.e accelerating and its very 'user sensitive'. If you are positive with your upshift, it works fine, any wafty foot movement and the quickshifter can get clunky.
I'm not sure I agree with the steering lock/ restriction comment but then I dont go as squeaky close to traffic as perhaps I saw you do in the vid. (a definite confidence thing on my part)
And WTF are you doing jetwashing a motorbike??
edit: not true about the basic price, quickshifter and heated grips are standard.
Yeah seems I got the wrong end of the stick when briefed about the different ‘packages’, my apologies, I’ll make a correction on the vid👍
Reason I compared the GT to the GS is because it’s practically the first question I’m asked whenever I review ANY bike tbh!
Cheers for now 😉👍
They're both touring machines, which is why the comparison, and BMW dealerships jetwash their bikes post service every time, no problem 👌
I think the comparison is good. It is more than the two bikes, but comparing two different styles of bikes.
Good video and review Bruce.
Thanks very much 👍
Nice ad honest review. I enjoyed a lot. l'll be on the market next year I and this bike seems to be my choice!! Cheers from Rome Italy.
Cheers John 👍
Nice comprehensive review, cheers
Cheers Tim 👍
Great review Bruce! Sticking with my GSA for the time being, can't find anything else that will do everything so well. If you are talking to BMW about the GS, talk to them about the Simon Pavey Off Road Skills courses in Wales. Do Level 1 you will have a lot of fun and learn a lot to 'de-mistify' riding off-road :-)
Cheers Scott 👍
Thank god I do not have this traffic crap where I live in Australia. Even travelling around the entire country, we still have the option of using smaller road/track systems to avoid traffic that you have to deal with. Avoiding cities also helps!! GSA over the GT any day mate, as our roads are absolute shit!! Great videos as usual brother.
Cheers Andrew 👍
Great review dude.
Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed it 👍
At 56 year's old my 2008 ZX-14 turbocharged is,not best for city riding. Now i see the 2020 1290 Super Duke R,thinking on getting one for city blasting. That were KTM really Fuck themselves such a premium bike and having to purchase simple quickshifter,every bike have them now, really enjoyed your views on the touring version.Great video cheers from Canada
Hi Gerald,
Yeah it’s strange they’ve done that isn’t it, making all those as extras when, as you say, most new bikes have them standard now?
Very nice review, you’ve clearly invested a lot of time and resources into this so thank you. I’ve not riden the GT yet, I can’t wait. For me the SAS is a great combo of the LC8 and the practicality of a GS. Still want to try the GT for the fun factor though.
Well worth trying the GT, I actually found it more refined than the SAS and easier to live with 👍
I swapped my SAS for a GT and haven’t regretted it.
Colin Porteous what changed your mind? I am really torn between the SAS and the SD-GT. Any input would appreciated.
@@mkmahooo9722 I got around to riding the GT late last year. They are totally different bikes. Sure they have similar engines and power, but the GT is a BEAST and the SAS is much more chilled. The GT reminded me of my Ducati Monster, it has that naked sports bike feel to it. I'd lose my license on the GT so I kept the SAS.
Wildlife Moto thanks for your feedback! Got it... so the GT will motivate to open up the throttle all time. I like your sense of self-control (lol) and choosing the SAS therefore over the GT. Make sense to me
Great review!
Cheers Jake 👍
Great vid again pal, when your on about Action Cameras, try DJI OSMO Action Camera.
Cheers Jock, i buy all my cameras so can’t really take a punt on it at the mo.
Would give it a go though 👍
“I Clydesdale hoarse on steroids “ rolling along 2 wheels.......... epically WOW !!!!!! 👍🏼 👏👏👏 😎 🇺🇸
Great vid as usual Bruce... I guess the beard is staying for now then 🤣🤣🤣
Aye.... for now 😉👍
The beard seems to have a life of it's own.
Maybe it should have its own channel lol
Loving the helmet beared hair Bruce! 😂
Ha Ha cheers Adrian 👍😉
That is a cracking review!!!!!
Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Excellent video 👍
Only had one for couple of weeks and even now I think it's simply the best bike I've ever owned. Can't wait for next summer to put a bucketload of miles on it :)
Another good one, Bruce. While I understand your reasons for comparing it to the GS, I consider the XR closer to the GT in terms of class. How would you compare the XR and the GT? Guessing more "character" from the GT. Keep up the good work, sir.
Yep you’re absolutely right there, the XR and GT are better suited rivals for sure in terms of class.
I just found the XR bland for me, almost a non-event to ride, which is insane as it’s incredibly quick and an amazing bike.
But the GT made me smile and it made me want to get on it and ride 👍
I like what KTM does to your beard
I was looking for the best "beard" comment here and I am not disappointed :))))))
Ah Bruce how could you not
want one 🏍️🏍️🏍️💪💪💪 great vid thanks 👍👍
Ha Ha, I’d love one, but it couldn’t be my only bike unfortunately 🤷♂️👍
@@teapotone just between you and me did the KTM win the race 💪💪🏍️🏍️🏍️🤔🤔
6:56 My Gitup Git2 has been great the last few years. Can't complain at all. Looking at upgrading to the Git3 to get higher res options.
Stunning
Helga's safe 😂😂👍 Good man
As houses.... for the time being 😉
The M25 car park, know it well & when we stay in Watford ( from Australia ) we tend to use the M25 a lot, had several trips back to Heathrow in the rain..also done 15 miles in 1st gear along there
Ha Ha it can be horrific can’t it! 👍
The GT’s USB cubby hole is uselessly small but it has a 12v socket beside the TFT too, and 4 other connectors on the wiring loom to add accessories, cameras, heated clothes etc. so there’s no shortage of options (& avoids upsetting sensitive canbus systems = take note BMW & others!)
Driven the Superduke GT from Leuven (Belgium) to Tignes (french Alps) in one go (1000+ km), during 2/2019 (to go skiing). Found the bike comfortable, and very stable. When there is a lot of rain and heavy winds this bike is far more stable then a GS, especially when driving next to lorries.
Really, I didn’t find that at all, I feel the GS is a much more stable ride tbh. The GT is definitely more fun but the GS is a far better all round bike for me
@@teapotoneWe will have to agree to disagree then. When I am on the highway to Brussels in morning traffic there are situations where I would not dare to drive close to a lorry with the GS. Problem is the moment you are actually not shielded anymore from the wind (by the lorry). There is pull at that moment towards the lorry. In my opinion, the GT is far less bothered by that then the GS. Especially if the wind is coming from the side. Each there preference :-)
Like the review Bruce ,currently riding a BMW XR and looking to upgrade. I also work in London living in Kent and commuting every day ,maybe I should try the GS before I decide. Are you reviewing the new S1000XR anytime ?
Not heard from BMW UK in a while so no idea if/when I’ll get to ride the XR I’m afraid
I keep my 2017 GT in Sport for the engine and Street suspension until I get to the fun roads and the speeds increase, then Sport firms it up and since it's ECU update it just rides superb. A friend was out on his GSXR 1000 last week and things got interesting, at the end of it he was crippled from his riding position, I was fresh as a daisy and the GT has matched or even beaten the Gixer (stomping out of slow corners but we kept a cap on top speeds) while also being a much better cruiser for when you just have to cover the miles on less fun roads.
It sounds like you need to try one with the powerparts seats, mine has them and the other week I was reminded about a bit of physics with goretex in torrential rain. My arse got cold, turned heated seat on, warm arse then wet arse... Water vapour goes from hot to cold through goretex and the seat was steaming when I got off...
I still want a go on the BMW R1250RS, but it will have to be insanely good to replace the big GT.
stonesie81 I went from a SDGT to the new 1250 RS. The RS is half the bike but more reliable and just sneaky quick. Still in the break in period.
I'm glad you made the point about goretex and the heated seat I'll make sure I don't fall for that one in winter! Can I ask how much is the ECU upgrade, just got my 2017 gt and was wondering if it is worth doing? ta
Do you mean the ‘Track Pack’ - part of the KTM powerparts range? If so I don’t actually know, you’d need to contact your dealership and find out what they’ll charge as it’ll require their labour charge on top to fit it - unless you can do that yourself.
Try some of the KtM forums and pages on Facebook etc to get an idea of cost 👍
Awesome review. 😝
Thanks Murt, glad you’re still enjoying them bud 👍
Great video, can you a make a review with 1290 super adventure S 2021 and compare with GS?
Good review as ever Bruce !, I had a short ride on the Super Duke recently...I agree it's a terrific bike, awesome engine. But parked up it's just so ugly....( in my eyes!) Cheers , Steve
Thanks Steve, I actually like the look of it????? But then I also like the look of the GS now too!
🤦♂️🤷♂️👍
@@teapotone The big GS looks great!...and who am I to judge, I think my XT660Z Tenere looks handsome! Cheers, Steve
Have 2017 model, didnt change settings and didn’t think about it till now, went to check, rain mode, comfort damping driver and pillion.
Went with it to track day as well and did not need any more than that. From all this electronics think for average motorcyclists that only traction control is needed, but that is my opinion
Forgot abs, yes it’s important, I did not experience it kick in yet
Cool video,thks.
Cheers Bruce 👍
A steroid infused sprinter you say!! I'm sold!! "Waves pretend checkbook at dealership - Is actually poor, cannot afford bike, becomes sad".
Great video !
🤣👍
Gosh that VW behind the bikes brings back so many memories! :-)
Thanks for that great review!!! As you‘ve driven both, i need to ask the question. SAS or GT? Which one would recommend? I‘m a sport oriented rider but a big guy with 185cm and 135kg. I’ll have to take my wife on some weekend tours, so i lean a bit toward the SAS. Just concerned that i‘ll miss that bit of extra power the GT has. Thx in advance for your input mate! 🙏🏼
Hi Mario,
I actually thought the SAS was more of an animal than the GT - the GT is fast but felt more refined than the SAS making the SAS actually more fun to ride for me
teapotone Now that’s interesting. Thanks for feedback. 🤝Guess both are stunning machines with +\- depending whats important for each individual. Need to test ride both asap. Have a good weekend ahead, and stay safe!
Yes bud absolutely, no better way than just riding them yourself and seeing what fits you best in every way - we’re all different eh.
Stay safe and all the best to you and your family too 👍
Another entertaining vid and informative review..but made me think, 17k for a bike that doesn't have bugger all but a frame wrapped round a engine..no luggage..no comfort seat..no heated grips..no quickshifter and to cap it call the engine is lumpy under 2000 rpm making it, I should imagine a handfull in slow city traffic ! For my sins drive a lowly Corsa costing a paltry 13k in which I get air con..heated seats...heated steering wheel...cruise control.. variable power steering not forgetting, radio, CD player, bluetooth phone connection, around 48 to the gallon runs as smooth as butter at any speed in any gear and all my buttons are also backlit ! I started riding bikes when i was 16 and I still enjoy riding my bike at the age of 68. And in all those years I've never understood why the biking feternatiy excepts and puts up with these outrageous prices. No wonder one the best selling motorcycle in the UK at moment is a £5,500 Royal Enfield a brilliant back to basics bike. You only have to watch UA-cam vloogger Itchy Boots to see you don't to sell a kidney to buy a very costly adv bike to ride the world. 👍
That’s my mistake I’m afraid Re the basic spec - apparently the basic bike DOES come with heated grips and quickshifter
10:07 a green woodpecker shouts in woodpeckerese "here's that bloody ktm again" .
Quick shifter, blipper and heated grips are all included in the base model!
Also I've not seen 2019 models discounted so low. Pretty sure they'll be 2018's but am interested in a link if you have one
Hi Bruce, Great review - thanks. Just one comment, the £4K off is only for the old model!
Ah right, apologies about that bud, didn’t realise
True but they are also doing good deals on the 2019 bikes too. They seem happy to negotiate (unlike BMW)
Bruce, when you're filtering, are the gaps wider than they appear on camera? I find myself clenching a tad while watching.
Ha Ha, not much 😉😎👍
Ooooh I’m still itching for the 1250 gsa, just need to bring em out in some nice colours.
TheFozzy222 sometimes I feel the same way about the colors for 2019 GSAs. I wish they gave them the 1250 GS colors.
Funny you say that - I could not bring myself to have either a mud and dirty green GS or a bike with tacky gold wheels. KTM SAS for me and I'm glad I did!
I find tire pressure on the GT is key. It felt mushy to me with stock pressures but get em up to 40lbs and it handles tremendously. I agree that the GS for every day may be better when considering comfort but you are exactly correct when you say there is no comparison when it comes to fun factor. I would have to differ in my final opinion though. I have had several GS's and just find I lose my enthusiasm for them pretty quickly due to the their sterile nature. All KTM's are simply fun to ride. Out of left field though, for pure comfort and fun and for long distance everything.....I prefer my Harley Road Glide Special.
I’ve never ridden a Harley actually, but should be trying a few next year all going well 👍
@@teapotone So I ended up selling my GT, I enjoyed it but I bought an MT10, put on some bags and find it much easier to ride and frankly better all the way around. On another note, I used to own a 2006 GS Adventure and I absolutely hated it....fast forward and I ended up buying the 40th anniversary R1250GS and it could not be any more different than the 2006. The 1250 is amazing, the torque is insane, handling comfort, tech and all around there is no better machine. Fast forward even further and I bought a Super Duke EVO. Yes, far too many bikes or is that possible? The EVO is, IMHO, THE best naked on the market and that is after riding the V4S, Tuono and Speed Triple RS. I actually find I like the MT10 equally to the new SD but the SD is far more feature packed. Love your vids and I am glad you are sticking with it!!
"riding with purpose". I'll remember that one lol
😉👍
HI Bruce..like the look of this bike and I will book a test ride when we are allowed out. What’s the LG room like mate between the seat and the pegs. I am 6’3. Cheers Dave
Same height as me David, it’s absolutely fine 👍
Hi tp, did you experience any wobble or weaving on the GT at high speeds. I experience it on my 1290 SA R and is frustrating.
Over priced for me I'm afraid....ktm did this before with the gt, lobbed off 4k ish to clear some....I'd be pissed though if I'd just spunked out full price the month before!! Boom, goes yer resale....that's another great thing about BMW, stable prices....anyway, another great video and overview, Bruce....hope you're doing well.
You can also change the power modes on the move but you need to do it on a closed throttle. Build some speed shut the throttle and change mode. Fools it to thinking it’s on idle. 😊 well you could with the 16 plate.
😉👍
Heated grips, hand guards and quick shifter are all standard on the 2019 model. And the cheap prices are for the 2018 models, there are no 2019 model available at the moment
Aye apologies, I got the wrong end of the stick when being briefed by KTM 👍
I really liked your video. I am in the market for the KTM super duke gt but I am a little worried about wind protection. Is it better then on the Bmw R 1200 Rs. Also, regarding seat height. I am 1,73 cm (32 inseam). The 82 seat height on the Rs felt perfect for me. What do you think?
I think some people maybe getting their bikes confused, if you're saying that people want to compare this to a GS. They maybe forgetting about the BMW S1000XR, 17 inch wheels, upright Adventure style seating. The KTM 1290 Adventure and BMW GS have more in common.. ie 19 inch front, 17 rear.. looking forward to seeing your 1250 BMW review, as long as it doesn't break down again and need a tow truck.. Have you reviewed the BMW S1000XR yet... really enjoyed your reviews..
Lovely bike, and yes to buy one new to find out a month later you could save 3k would put a bit of a damper on the bike for me.
Ha Ha yeah I’d be a tad ‘miffed’ 🤨👍
@Mike W Yeah I read up the comments and someone pointed it out mate 👍 cheers.
Hi Bruce. Having explored pricing after watching your vid, it appears that the only £12k deals are on 2018 models. Best deal on a 2019 model is around 15.5k.
Just can’t decide on this or the s1000xr for my commute to London every day. What do you think tp?
For me it would have to be the GT, purely because of the character and performance of that engine.
For me the XR is insanely fast, handled well, it’s a great bike, but it just didn’t do ‘it’ for me.
The GT did. But get the Powerparts dear as the stock on will kill your arse after about 45mins!
KTM is running killer deals in the US at the moment...I have a 2016 S1000XR that I ride in Los Angeles traffic commuting mostly on the free ways. About 3 years worth and I am working on trading it in next week for a SDGT. I love the XR...traded a VFR800 that I had 75k miles on, for the XR and its been lovely. It’s stupid fast, (gave me my first infraction in awhile racing (and beating) my buddies RR), its comfortable 1 and 2 up. The suspension is excellent, plush on the freeway and good enough to scare in the local canyons. The one thing its missing...the character of the VFR or some of the other bikes I ride. I love the XR for what it does, but for me some of the experience is missing (I think its the 4-cylinder sound). That being said...it looks like it might be a bit more agile in traffic than the GT. If I remember, I will update this later this week if I get the GT and let you know.
The loaf looks fantastic.
Given you are a GS man at heart and I know you say in your vid that you would still prefer the GS, but what if you had a KTM adventure 1090. What you swap to the GT or go for a Super Adventure?
I’d go 1290 Suoer Adventure over all them, even the GT. I find the SA more raw and just more fun to ride
Still can’t top the GS eh Bruce....btw, was wondering how much you Police bike course has changed your riding, if at all?
Love the VW Kombi
Cheers, the wife’s pride and joy 👍
You need to try the track throttle. It's precise not jerky. Not saying you would want it all the time, but if you have a smooth wrist, it's nice.
Cheers Sapa, yeah I kind of wish I’d tried the track mode now 🤦♂️👍
Very cool garage.
Ha Ha thanks Sapa 👍
I was in the market for a new bike recently. I was basically considering the KTM GT and the BMW S1000XR HP. After I realised the KTM was £16,700 my choice was made. I purchased a BMW S1000XR HP Sport SE for under £14k. Had I been aware the KTM could be available for £12K I would no doubt of had a test ride. Maybe KTM are shooting themselves in the foot with the ridiculous pricing?
Just been to Austria fully loaded with my girlfriend and the S1000XR was faultless. I kind of wanted a straight four as Bruce points out, the twins can be lumpy at low speed. Not what you want two up with panniers and a 58 litre top box.
Sure it's not the previous 2018 model that can be had for 12k Bruce?
Gt allday for me rode gs1200,and 1250 not for me,oldmans bike sorry,but thats all i seem to see riding them,great review though👍and everyone has there own opinions
Aye exactly bud, each to their own eh 😉👍
@@teapotone exactly bud 😉👍
I'm 36 and ride a R1250gs Rallye HP, hardly an old man lol
@@b1gd312 you sir are the exception 😆 all gs riders i know are 50plus
Take your head out of the sand mate, times are changing 😉
Nice van in the garage Bruce...will we get a review?
Ha Ha, thanks Michael, only as a passenger. The VDub is Mrs Teapot’s pride and joy 👍
That's what I've said 😉 sweet looking thing.
Bloody big garage too.
Take a look at the Garmin Ultra VIRB 30 action camera that’s what I’m using I stopped using Go Pro years ago
Nowhere near the same spec as the GoPro Hero 7 bud, I need to film at 60fps at minimum of 1080, can’t do that with the Garmin.
Plus the stabilisation of the Hero7 is wordclass
teapotone It will do 1080P @60FPS check the specs below but keep in mind that this camera came out around the time the Hero 5 came out I’m just saying keep your eyes open bc they should have a new camera coming soon
buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/522869#specs
Isn't the R1250RS the closest rival to the GT than the GS?
Yep in terms of strict bike type yes, but I’d suggest most people out there would still compare the GT with the GS - that’s the overwhelming question I’m asked about it anyway 🤷♂️👍
I know this is an old vid but really how many GS owners take their bikes off road especially the new 1250 doubtful if many do.
I had the same GS blue rally as you and it was flickable and I took it on track twice but it was far too heavy and that annoyed me after a while. Maybe I’ll come back to a GS but not for a while .
Bruce I notice that Helga is in the repair shop a lot. why is that and if you dont mind, how much do you spend a year for the maintance. I own a V-Strom because I knew the BMW's get you when you take them in.
80CJ5 as a owner of k1600 2018 i have already new engine after 5000 Miles then in Spain two coils blow up ( holiday end up in one place as no parts for 4 days) from time to time throttle electronics give up, yesterday got message you have no fog lights and from time to time quick shifter playing games with me. After all bike from day one pull to left so counterstering need be apply daily. Mind you I use it as daily drive and done already 20000 miles. Bmw owners are like Harley owners they will always be protective to they motorbike company even when you see the same faces in service for repairs, The conversation with them is silly as they never admit it’s not reliable bikes.... So if you think about bmw buy new one to cover this repairs on warranty. I had before yamaha and have not been in service more than for just oil change and mind you it was they big twin 1800 air cooled covering yer by year Europe on it and 60000 miles. Not a bit repair done apart usual oil chane and belt tension after 30000 miles. But give to k1600 - is a arm chair with steroids and can easily left sports bikes behind with comfort. It’s very very easy to drive and flick like a dream that is why I keep it until warranty go......and then back to jap bikes for they reliability so I can left those posh snobs in service lol... Did you see those GS owners drove on Sunday with they full panniers set to coffee shop with stickers around world which had no one scratch on it lol.
abazdarhon at last, an honest BMW owner....
@@alrightdave6135 agreed. I've got a GS, and I've owned 5 BMs, and they're the only ones that have ever given any trouble.
I'm looking at getting a new bike next year but I need a bike for all occasions....only aloud one bike :-( .... so the Super Duke GT is on the maybe list along with the MT10 and the Ducati 1200 multistrada... Liking the MT10 but the tank range is the only thing letting it down for me at the moment.
All I can say is take them for a good test ride and see which one does it for you.
The GT is great, but looking back I think the Super Adventure was more fun to ride as it was a bit less ‘refined’.
The Mt10 is insane, but a lot of people say the throttle is too binary and every snatchy - as well as it’s incredibly thirsty.
I don’t know about the Multistrada as I’ve not even thrown a leg over one... yet 😉
Let me know what you go for bud 👍
@@teapotone Will do Mr Pots .... Test rides a plenty for next year :-p
I feel my fascination with the KTM GT is waning towards the R1250rt but I may still give the Austrian upstart a test ride .
@Mike W I ment up start in the context of the new kid on the block that challenges the position of the traditional market leaders because KTM has really only been producing this type of motorcycle relatively recently .But the KTM sport touring GT is in the same league as the BMW R1250 GT or Rt the rt marketed more towards the touring type less than the aggressive loonatic type.
And how is the classic KTM bench to sit on? Good review.
Cheers, I never had any comfort issues from what I remember, it’s a great bike 👍
Thanks, I ride the Sas1290 , 2018 20000km, had to even modify the ergo seat to be able to ride with descent comfort. I think if you're thinner guy with smaller butt KTM seats are why to hard, way, Way to hard. Completely destroys the the ride. I been thinking if the GT is more comfortable for me, I see the seat are wider. Let's see how the Airhawk V2 will help, on order ..
So the GS won’t have a problem keeping up with the GT on a backroad?
Any issue with the steering lock and open/close fuel cap?
Alwin Quek get a race cap. Best aftermarket purchase. Moto D
Did you not adjust the chain in those 2K miles from your lovely man cave or just forgotten how after so long with shaft?!?!👍🤣👌
No I didn’t actually, got lazy since living with the Beamer!
I did the chain on the Super Adventure when I had that, but the KTM’s need to be torqued up to 240Nm on the rear axle! 👍
@@teapotone I've just bought one and from the manual, you don't need to loosen the axle nut, just the nut on the back of the inner part of the swinging arm (behind the sprocket). Torque for that is 70nm, easy.
So how did you stretch the chain, Bruce??
What tyres is she on Bruce?and what were they like for You?
Think they were some Pirelli’s but no idea what ones I’m afraid.
Never had any issues at all with the tyres, but that won’t help in the slightest seeing as I can’t remember what ones they were! 🤦♂️🤷♂️😬
@@teapotone Cheers! 😁
Praying Mantis front just couldn't live with it. ugly! But great vid TP
Ha Ha cheers Paul 👍
Ditto.
Good and fair review Bruce, You are a die hard GS fan. A friend of mine has just come back from a Europe trip and says that he spotted more Ktm 1090, 1190, and 1290's than Bmw Gs... it seems that the tide is turning. Have a great weekend peeps.
You will find Singapore's traffic during peak hours similar. Indian and The Philippines would be considered the maximum level in terms of congestion and lane splitting.
Is it just me or does no one else find the electronic suspension extremely confused when riding proper fast ?
I find it ok at normal speeds but it can get very out of sorts and no matter what setting I use I still can’t get anywhere like a good feeling
A bit like the multistrada s but they make a pikes peak to sort that issue
I’m in the process of swapping the electronic stuff for conventional k-tec and ohlins just waiting for confirmation the e stuff can be mapped out
Can’t think of a better bike for me if I can get it to handle that is 😀
Got to be honest here Adrian, I didn’t properly spank the GT for any prolonged period of time due to what I was going through at my previous work at the time.
I gave the SA a proper hammering and it was fairly wobbly at very high speeds, but I’ve since found out that was the tyres. Change them to road tyres and it fixes the speed wobble.
GT is a different story. I’ve got mates who own them and they ride them hard, none of them have complained about it though? 🤷♂️
teapotone I had it back to the dealer to get the suspension update done but it’s already been done 🤔 it’s only done 5k so unlikely to have a duff shock , none of the settings are good for anything
I Rode a superduke r back to back and it was miles more controlled
I have road and club raced at a decent level for a lot of years so not unfamiliar with suspension issues and have struggled with lots of bikes tbh
I’m convinced simply swapping the cartridges and fitting a quality shock will make the bike unbeatable it’s the only bike I’ve considered doing this to the motor brakes noise etc is amazing just ( for me) bad boingers
I do realise all riders experience different things from all bikes though
Not tried track?? I didn't use anything else 🤪🤪
If you’d hurry up and teach me how to wheelie Chops, then I’d be giving track mode a go!!! 😉😎👍
You’re quite right , Sir, urban India has the most horrendous congestion . Ever.
Hi Pavan,
I’d still love to come over to India and ride there though, would love to meet other bikers there 👍
Is that the Super Sausage Cafe you were at? My local.
Yes bud 👍
So how goof are the panniers?
No idea bud, I wasn’t given any to test unfortunately