Thanks for watching!! As usual, this is edited from a livestream (I stream every Friday at 7.30pm EST) Some notes worth adding: - There's a whole separate story here about how subminimum wages, and child labor protection rollbacks are linked with immigration (in the case of agriculture, a lot of the workers are migrant children). That honestly would deserve it's own video entirely so I decided to focus on the legislative side of things here. We did briefly talk about it on stream tho. - I am (clearly) not american, but if you are then I suggest you check out OpenSecrets. It's a really handy website that allows you to see who funds specific politicians and is super insightful if you wanna learn more about that stuff! Many countries have a similar version of this too. - Apologies for any awkward pronunciations of US states lmao
Why is it that any time someone refers to "children" as "young adults" it's always in an attempt to justify something that should be a crime even with fully grown adults? It's never about respecting others or giving more rights.
Why is it that any time someone refers to "children" as "young adults" it's always in an attempt to justify something that should be a crime even with fully grown adults? It's never about respecting others or giving more rights.
@@sgnibble1 Not a good idea people like that will just use that as a poor justification of the "just pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mindset, completely blind to their advantages and "luck" and they will completely dissociate and misunderstand just what everyone else is going through while falsely believing that they do understand. There was a person who "tried" being homeless for a month to prove a point and even though he had to give up on his "experiment" because of "family matters" he still came to the wrong conclusion that he "would have been able to work his way out of it if it wasn't for X".
If you had told me 20 years ago that this is the world I’d be living in as an American I would’ve laughed. This country feels more like a dystopian novel every year.
You thought everything was going in the right direction back then? I envy your happiness. Since I was 9 years old, back in the mid-2000's, I looked around and said "This school system is r3tarded. If people are falling for this nonsense, then there's no saving this country." I would be surprised if America had turned out any other way. I was very pleasantly surprised when Trump became President. But I think the Deep State is smart enough to not let that happen again. Only a miracle from God can save us now.
Other countries manage it. Americans might just have to accept that starting their own country was a bad idea in the first place, and cancel this whole experiment.
People aren't having children because they can't afford them. I reckon the 1% has decided the solution to falling birthrates is sending kids out for a wage, then people would pop them out again. Need another income? Have another kid.
I don't get it... what is the reason for not paying children at least minimum wage? I mean... if a kid is working, it's most likely because they need the money, right?
No there's not "labour shortage" - there's a shortage of people wanting to be exploited at (or even below - with trickery and threat of being fired etc.) minimum wage and that is a GOOD THING! Just like quiet quitting bad jobs (so doing the least amount possible while looking for better work!)!
This is on the whole true. Many people in the US are underemployed, which official statistics don't show. The U6 labor statistic shows ca. 8% unemployment in the US. Wages have stagnated and real wages are trending downwards.
Not even that. Unemployment stats aren’t based on people without jobs - they’re based on jobs without people. Those jobs obviously can’t attract workers, and under capitalism should fail. But we have socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor
to be fair there is a labour shortage since less and less people get kids, thus making pensions more difficult and such, which yes indeed government bad they did this
I don't generally share this with people in person, but I was employed at 11... Was told it was to build character and it's good exercise. The funniest thing is that they also then try to claim I don't need a full wage either
I started working at 10, doing jobs around the neighborhood. By 13, I was working summer jobs that tore my body up. I worked and went to high school, standing on my feet for hours. By 30, my body wasn't any good.
It's weird how accepted it is to underpay minors. Common argument why burger flippers shouldn't be paid a living wage is "Those jobs are for teenagers, not adults."
Slavery is older than Homo Sapiens. We have been trying to abolish it, but it's going to be very difficult and take centuries to change something so ancient
I had a substitute teacher argue with me a few years ago when I brought up loosening regulations on child labor and how its going to be terrible because obviously children being exploited for their labor isnt good. His argument was "well those were implemented forever ago when it was actually a problem, no one wants to send their kids to the mines anymore" LIKE DUDE YES THEY WILL. WHEN THERE IS NO LAW TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM MAKING MONEY OFF A SET OF PEOPLE WITH NO VOTING RIGHTS THEYLL DO IT.
On the record? In public? I oppose it. In private? At voting day? “Well… there was an extra provision tacked in that was really important to my constituents and I had been working on that for decades so I voted yes to the child labor bill that was called “restore local jobs act” - I honestly didn’t notice it legalized child labor… I deeply regret my vote” If they cant bribe you with money, or trick you with a nice title - imagine voting no to “all the good stuff and free money with no downsides act” - they will find your pet political project and add in some pork.
I met someone in a social Justice group who wanted to run for senate and she was saying that her 11 year old wanted to work and she wanted to make it possible for her to do that. People have real issues. She said “she wants to start working and help with bills. She’s ready.” Like bro you are a bad parent and you’d make a terrible leader.
Judges and politicians should be forced to wear their sponsors on their sleeves like nascar drivers. it would make a lot more sense if a congressman with an “Exon Mobile” sticker on his back was pushing zoning regulation to require a natural gas line. Or if a “McDonald’s” senator was in favour of lower the minimum wage for under 18 year olds. All I want is transparency in governance.
You're better off in any other country if you want transparency. USA just convinces their citizens every other country is worse, like some sort of weird abusive relationship.
Oh boy if you would make it a reality you eouldnt ever see a corporate brand but something you will notice is ethnogenetic How i know? Because i looked what many of these "sponsors" have in common and especially their heritages
Very well-spoken and informative presentation. I was guilted by my parents into working 9.5 hours hoeing strawberry fields 6 days/ week when I was 14-17. I remember praying for rain on blazing hot August days so I could get an early dismissal and truckbed ride home. I have achieved much in my lifetime but am certain this was deleterious to my social and personal development spending so many summertime hours in solitude with little mental stimulation while my friends played and socialized. This call to awareness is appreciated, believe me.
My parents did the same thing to me as well. Once I was 15 years old in HS my parents told me “You NEED a job! When I was 8 years old I had a job throwing newspaper out!!!” Full time student at high school mixed with being a worker was miserable. After 8 hours of school I would work for 6+ hours, sleep, and wake up just to live the same day everyday like I was stuck in purgatory. I worked at subway at 15, my coworkers were even younger then me, and yes, it went against labor law for employing minors for some of them. Having no time for myself, making minimum wage, feeling trapped, I wanted to end it all (I didn’t tho so that’s good 👍)
I’ve recently fallen down a rabbit hole of learning about early twentieth century labor movements here in the US and I’ve realized that we only have our current labor rights because of people that literally died fighting their employers, and most of this was only possible because of unions.
Except many unions have turned sour and toxic for their members. Not all, but many. They cut deals between themselves and the employer often excluding the actual worker while gladly taking that membership fee. In my own experience anyway
@@indoorkite651Except, that isnt true in a lot of cases but the perception of idiots and incompetents who don't go to the voluntary meetings. So its the same few guys doing alllllll the paperwork. All the time. There's corruption in any institution and it is woefully disingenuous to act like unions are some extreme example of this. Unions require active participation, and not getting news on unions from your idiot coworkers.
@@fueyo2229I was very much taught this. I'm thankful for the excellent education I was afforded in my small rural town. I learned how to think for myself. I learned of all of our hard fought rights. That right wingers want to piss away. While calling themselves patriots. The destruction of the US is coming wrapped all snug and tight in the US flag and it is the people who claim they love it the most carrying it.
This isn't just child labor, every advancement made in the labor movement has been systematically attacked by capital, that's why working conditions are what they are currently, all of this is intentional.
I build america. Working conditions are fine where I'm at. Having your hardhat out of reach can result in a writeup from the saftey guy... Of course there are some shady companies out there, requiring dilligence from would be employees reporting to OSHA. In general we are tracking in the right direction. Even 20 years ago jobsites were much less safe than today.
@@mikepalmer1971there always has to be a population desperate enough to work for slave wages coming here tis been the fact of America since James towns
I worked as a kid in foster care doing unpaid labor maintaining facilities, cooking meals, etc. and later when I got my GED and then a job, the company that was my guardian took most of my paychecks to pay for the foster care. This nullified any potential to save up money and start my adult life.
my family must have fostered wrong, we put most of the money we got for the kids into trust under their name, so they'd have money for stuff like college when they aged out of the system.
@@mjlh7079 it varies state by state, placement to placement. I was in a state that privatized foster care, my guardian wasn't a social worker but instead an employee of a for-profit foster company. That company cut costs and increased revenue for themselves while being assisted by the state. They cut doctors visits, dental checkups, counseling, clothing allowance, and the amount paid to our foster parents for food and everything else. There was also a policy (I don't remember if it was a state or corporate thing) that I could only save a maximum of $1200 from working and everything after that would be taken by the foster company to pay for my care... allegedly. I hit that limit in 2 paychecks, then when they dropped that info on me I quit working because I sure as hell wasn't going to work for a company that profits off of orphans. That $1200 was given to my biological parents when I aged out and they dropped me off in a grocery store parking lot with my garbage bag of clothes and books. I could go on, but it was overall not a good experience. It wasn't as bad before they privatized and allowed companies to profit from the foster care system.
Well, that sucks. I always worked with my mom and she paid me half of what the employer paid her. Even thou arguably i wasn't doing half of the work. Though in return she almost never gave me any pocket change nor i ever asked. Because i always had my money and didn't waste (most of) it.
Bro the meat packing plant I work for got sued because a third party company hired middle school aged kids to clean the place, they definitely must’ve had to handle various toxic chemicals to clean an entire facility with hooks, knives, saws and just about every workplace hazard ngl
There will be future lawsuits against these well heeled CEO's, for the damage they have done to children. Modern CEO's especially in meat packing are the lowest of the low. The worship of wealth has shown us exactly how low a human being can fall. These CEO's appear to be a SUBHUMAN Species.
@@annjuurinen6553 Facts. I couldn’t agree more, these CEOs and executives are really doing the most when it comes to maximizing production, they really don’t mind polluting a neighboring town’s rivers or creeks, just as long as they see a profit margin.
I think they are counting on quantity not quality. More unplanned pregnancies from teenagers with little to no access to birth control or schooling will create an easier to exploit permanent underclass!
@@tylerbarrios9762 A lot of them just think ending a pregnancy is bad, however they are also supporting the other crappy things that party does without question JUST so they can shove their morals down everyone's throat with the law.
I really don't get how more people haven't figured out that the people who own the corporations that these laws benefit are the same people making those laws yet. Our government is run by the corporation owners and bankers, and it has been for decades. Yet somehow people still don't see it.
@@tylersingleton9284 That's by design. The ruling class does everything they can to keep the working class at each other's throats. If we're too busy working our 9-5 jobs, taking care of our families, and arguing with each other about left vs right, then we don't have any time or desire to ask who is really pulling the strings. Fun fact: The same person that created the 9-5 work day (Henry Ford) is the same person that a certain famous German dictator loved so much that he had a full sized portrait of him in his office, and Ford is only one of the real n@zis that won the war by funding both sides. Ever wonder how the German "miracle" happened? How a nation that was completely devastated by war was somehow able to rise from the ashes to become a superpower in another world war immediately after? Capital Investment.
For decades? This has been America since before America. Remember that, by and large, the taxes and restrictions imposed on the Thirteen Colonies by the Crown were aimed at the colonial neo-aristocracy. The American Revolution was a bourgeoisie revolution, and its Founders were all wealthy landlords looking out for their own self-interests above all else. "Freedom" was merely a hobby to them, and that only applied to men, like them.
It's special interests actually. Stop blaming the corporations. Look how lgtbxyz forces corporations to be beholden to DIE etc since life 2012 And before that it was forced racial quotas Like srsly why does no one understand this is literally ..
talking to people in the US about things like this is like yelling into the wind. we are intentionally misinformed, encouraged to engage in politics in only superficial ways, and people most affected by things like this are so overburdened by the cost of living (and oftentimes, the cost of dying), they don't have the energy to learn on their own
This is terrible cause now we're bringing back the old incentives for people to have kids - an army of workers. I can easily see how this will be abused by abusive parents. I was raised by the kind of adult who would see no issue in putting kids to working if they're making money. The kind of people who would justify it to themselves by saying they need to contribute and children shouldn't be having fun but learning how to support the family through work. Give it 10 years and you'll see more kids being raised by corporations than community
You know it's interesting to think of that in the context of the current population decline in the first world. Maybe that was the secret all along: the thing that really incentivized people to have kids in prior generations was the ability to exploit them for your own gain 💀
Ah, "parents" that narcissistically treat children as mere slaves, as a pet that makes their AWFUL life easier without a thought. And here I was thinking that all parents are innately cruel thus don't deserve a single damn thing from their kids because ALL PARENTS PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH THEIR KIDS, THE BULLET BEING HORRIBLE HEALTH PROBLEMS OR ABUSE FROM THE WORLD, LIKE A POOR HOUSEHOLD. How many bullets do you think are in the cylinder? Here I was thinking that having kids is purely narcissistic in intentions because what the parent wants the kid to do and accomplish is NOT what the kid wants to do, in fact you have no way of even knowing if it'll want to stay alive in this world WITHOUT ENOUGH SUICIDE RIGHTS. Those beings you mentioned aren't parents, they're sociopaths. They fail the role of a parent, to provide wellbeing and safety for a child until it fully develops it's productivity and independence skills. They treat them more like an ineffective roomba.
@@MisterCynic18 I mean we KNOW why the population has been declining. More people are responsible enough to go “I literally can’t afford children.” That and a perfectly reasonable depressed outlook on the future account for 100% of the reason.
Canada too. It's legally down to 14 (with parent's permission, but still) in most places and 12 in some. It's pretty transparent that it's just the government bending to the grocery store cartel who don't wanna pay their employees a living wage. It's really jarring going to the store and being helped by kids
They lowered the age you can become a lifeguard to 15 recently in Canada. Its so fucked, some of these kids can barely pull another 15 year old out of the water let alone an adult
As an aside most child labour in Canada takes place in family run businesses, and you are required to pay children the same wage as an adult, along with the safety standards that a business must adhere to it makes child labour generally less cost effective then just hiring an adult.
Imagine someone who would starve toddlers to death so their Bank Balance went from $20,000,000,000.00 to $20,000,000,050.00 Now imagine that is EXACTLY who rules the US.
The global market. These aren’t only American rules. Corporations are legal persons who have all the rights of born humans, but only one responsibility- to profit.
I worked a full time job for about 3 years while I was a kid washing dishes in an industrial setup. Chemicals, accidents, ect were all pretty common, so we're drugs, smoking, drinking. We haven't been a first world country for a while
I live in Arkansas. I work at a McDonald's. We have 2 15 year olds on staff. That law does exist, but it isn't really applied outside the age aspect. One of our babies as I call them is just working for a little extra money. She wants to buy her own car. $14/hr gets you there. The other is probably a good reason the law exists. She turned 15 and worked her birthday. Her family situation is pretty bad. Meth. She'll get emancipated at 16 and a full driver's license. She works 20 a week and is saving money for an apartment when she's emancipated. She'll probably be the defacto mom for her 3 year old brother. In her case, I agree with the law. She has a right to independently get out of her nightmare. She also gets paid $14. We pay every new employee the same. 15 or 55 it's $14 an hour to start.
as long as labor literally can't pay the bills, you're gonna struggle to hire someone. Maybe work on making rent and utilities cheaper before thinking about paying people to not survive.
@raze2012_ You don't need anything other than water, bread, and a dry place to sleep. You're living above your means by using electricity. What do you need internet for?
@@user-zu5do6ri6r thank you. By survive most of these entitled people mean being able to live in expensive apartments downtown, drive luxury cars, have door dash delivered four nights a week etc. just for flipping burgers
@@captain_improbability5690 wants are not basic necessities, that's the point. You are not owed luxuries for working at McDonald's. If you want luxuries then go to college. 70% of billionaires have a college degree. The other option is working two jobs. If you're not willing to do either of these things then you can shut up as far as I'm concerned.
It would be nice if we could get a lot of our fellow humans to realize this: Government's control over "Births, Deaths and Marriages" isn't meaningless! It is an indirect breeding program to try and get 'the right person' for whatever the government needs. Much like our education programs are nothing more then 'specializing to the government needs.'
I mean you can its called a revolution weither an active violent one, or a passive one. But the governements are essentially making careful choices to profit the most without going so far that the populace are going to accept laying their lives down for their ideals, and while its not fine we cant exactly blame each other for that. Big Change dont come from the top, it comes from the bottom, if it comes from the top it means its made FOR the top (example: Japan which is absolutely NOT a good country to live in because for all of their traditions, they kept the one most harmful to the locals for the benefits of the elite), i know the US is brainwashed into thinking socialism is bad, but thats not truly the case, only part of it is bad. The truly bad thing is wealth inequality of such absurd scale allowed by the thriving of capitalism and globalism in its current state, because ironically capitalism in its purest form doesnt encourage competition it encourages monopolies because only a few big companies can just cooperate to manipulate the governing body of every country to make laws giving them privileges. Governing body which is PARAMOUNT to us humans living in a society, and paramount to making sure companies dont rule over every facet of our lives, which is hard when everyone in said governing body is open for corrupti-i mean totally legal lobbying which is definitly not corruption with another name so we can look good on a corruption index
@@DaLink25 "not true" why? Care to actually explain WHY what this person said is wrong? Isn't it crazy how you brush off an informed opinion without substantiating your claim that they are wrong?
The irony of the school system being designed to produce obedient little factory workers. School has the effect of work because of that. Kids not working is a side effect of living in a wealthy country. Child labor is a sign of economic poverty in some regard
"Child labor is a sign of economic poverty in some regard" Here is an example that goes against this: Brazil is one of the 10 largest economies in the world. Why is there porverty? Poverty is the result of an extreme concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. Almost half of money coming from taxes in Brazil go to the financial system. - And the tax system there makes that the lower classes are those who contribute the most and receive the least support. Elite-backed far-right politicians advocate legalizing child labor and cutting funding for public schools because this would provide a large source of cheap labor (obviously, the children of the rich go to good expensive schools). Poverty is not random, it is planned.
its the worst thing in history. parents should not have ownership over their children. its simply wrong. children are people, with rights and needs that are not those of their parents.
@@pigslam There are way worse things than parents owning their children. I could list 5 things that are worse actually. 1. Genocide. 2.Rape and molestation. 3.murder. 4. Animal abuse. 5. Actual, genuine exploitation of other people. A parent owning their child until they are an adult wouldn't even be on a top ten list of terrible things much less be the "worst thing in history."
Children can work at home, they can help with the dishes, mowing the lawn, painting a fence, cleaning the sidewalk. No bussiness should be allowed to hire kids.
@@liamsteele4982 No. No exceptions. It just opens the door to child abuse. Small business is still business and a workplace where children have no business working. Children are not investors or business partners.
I honestly see no issue with kids having jobs. I don't see it as really being any different than participating in athletics or other extracurricular activities after school. Those things can be time-consuming and stresful as well, so they often aren't necessarily different from a job. I worked at a school where kids were routinely kept after school at late hours on school nights, and I seemed to be the only staff member who had an issue with it. I think that jobs for kids can be great as long as the employer follows the child labor rules. However, like schools, they often don't follow the rules, and therein lies the problem. We need spaces in the world that are FOR kids with their needs in mind, whether that be jobs, extracurriculars, fun activities to do in the community, etc. However, the idea that those places should lack protections for children is insane.
The whole "children are adults" idea takes away the idea of teenhood as well as misses huge parts of development. We may be going back to "You're a child then an adult" regarding laws.
i have a perfect explanation for this. well off eurocentrics brains stop developing in toddlerhood. so to them, they truly dont understand what an adult actually is. thats why they are some of the only people on earth who are capable of looking you in the eye and saying you can do 15 hours of hard labor per day while only eating 200 calories 3x a week. no adult thinks thats a reasonable expectation or even consider it any less than torturing people to death with labor induced starvation for entertainment and ego...
@@danycashkingthey are the perfect workers, can’t vote, can’t complain because who listens to a child and can pay them low it’s not like they need just doing eats jobs, and if they aren’t well, just blame someone else for their safety, what’s a few lost limbs and a few millions law suit compared to all the millions you make
@@silverhawkscape2677(sobs in missing when MAPs meant *just* "Multi Animator Project") Yeah, and not only that but the intentional fingerpointing at the LGBT+ community as "the true MAPs" while politicians are out here taking away sex ed (the number one means for kids to report CSA), allowing legal marriages with minors, and preventing pregnant people (including minors) to be forced to carry to term even if it kills them, or trap them in said marriages.
Eventually we'll be looking at the "Are you sure she/he isnt an adult at 14?" This is a slippery slope, and there is shit being added to the hill everyday.
Also delivery drivers operate under the same rules as a waitress. We get paid less when on the road. So while the people making the food get paid minimum wage to make the food I’m getting paid 3$-5$ per hour and the argument is always “delivery drivers make the most” sure, we “make the most” at the end of the night, but we don’t make a profit. All that money goes to gas and car maintenance and whatever I am tipped in credit of debit they take off your paycheck. That’s supposed to be illegal but when I spoke with a lawyer about it they claim that there’s a lot of loopholes they can use to get around it unfortunately. This stuff is disgusting I can and have worked 7 days a week both weeks 8-12 hours a day and only come home with a $200-$300 paycheck.
solution: stop working, stop getting exploited, sell your home and live in a tent or something because it's so much cheaper, live off of water and bread
@@TheRealNiktWazny I turned to crime and shoplift my food. Being in and out of jail has changed my life for the better. I never pay my fines and that has only helped me. Home ownership is out of the question for me so i can throw away just about everything and be happy as i shit on the streets.
@@WerewolfofEpicness it's useful to do though if nothing else is done then these businesses will disappear and be replaced with slave labour from the 3rd world
There isnt a labor shortage. There's a shortage of people willing for a negative net cost/wage ratio. Education, vehicle, insurance, and gas cost more than many of these jobs pay. If a 20yo has to live at their parents' place and use their patents' car, then what's the motivation to waste your day at smoothie king?
@@mikepalmer1971Not like in America. We are the richest country in the world and I’ve travelled to many other first world countries and poverty here is like nothing else I’ve seen.
Nothing but everyone loving God with all their heart mind and strength and loving one another as someone would love themselves will change the way this country is or even how this world is right now.
Alot of parents want this. Sorry to say. It should be normalized to learn to work at 14. full time work from 16-18 to pay back your parents or college for sponging of them and getting them ready for the real world. the high school system is just a rubber stamp anyway. you should be learning to pay taxes at 16 not analysing macbeth lol.
@@olmsfam1”sponging off them” like they aren’t the literal product they CHOSE to make. Bffr. If you have a kid it’s your responsibility to take care of it until AT LEAST the age of 18. If you can’t handle that don’t have kids.
@@olmsfam1 those aren’t parents, just greedy broke people. How can you justify children working full time hours…while still in school. That’s hard enough for many college students to even do part time. Your fucking trolling
@@olmsfam1 how about we have financial literacy classes AND poetry in high school instead of burning it all down to try and get your kids to "pay you back". You know what pays you back? your kid making 6 figures out of college because you put them through a good education.
I've been working since 15 years old. I most certainly regret working since 15 years old. There is little to no time for socializing, exploring hobbies, learning ect. I sometimes wonder how much better off I would have been had I not worked for most of my teen years
This is how I feel about being homeschooled and working: I'd work a crappy fast-food job, come home, do housework and make dinner, then do an absurd amount of self-paced coursework, then wake up and do it all over again the next day. And since I wasn't able to socially network or grow, and since my coursework wasn't easily accessible by anyone other than my mother and me, I didn't get anywhere near a college scholarship. I still don't know how to file a FAFSA, I still don't really understand my taxes (I let a website do them for me every year), I still don't know how to drive at 23 years old, and I'm sick and tired of being stuck in my small town. I love my mom, I love my family, but I can't help but feel like they failed me in some regards. I'm probably just being entitled and cruel, I guess.
Yeah you might've missed out a bit, but also depended if you actually did stuff with your time too lol, but yeah I don't think working at 15 is always good if no time is dedicated to your extracurricular activities.
mean ive been told that socializing, hobbies etc arnt a right, your a servant first and formost, i grew up dreading adulthood because it was basically shown to me your nothing but a drone you go to work,hate the work, make the money to struggle to pay your rent, and you die young and have your relatives they are "at that age" and to just get use to death. I'm sick of seeing adults who work thier asses off day in and day out die with dreams and aspriations killed long before they themselves did. because being homeless is equal to being a corpse (which now is if you refuse to be chained for not having a place to sleep)) we are gonna have an uptick in prison labor as the homeless are rounded up and forced into 13th admendment except sleavery
I'm sick of the death of the american dream, im sick of every idiot adult in my life turning a blind eye to this bullshit, and refusing to aknowledge it because it makes them sad, im stick of being powerless to do anything about it
I’m glad I got used to working by that age but it basically told me that’s what I was to do for the rest of my life untill I got out of high school and realized education plays a big part in income now I’m trying to catch up without going to school and it’s almost disheartening to think of how limiting that belief was but as long as you keep pushing
Using the word gift and handle in the same sentence is so wild, cause the sentence is actively contradicting itself. A gift isn’t something you handle. That implies there are negatives about this “gift”. And a core part of the definition of a gift is literally that it is a positive.
The old folks talking about working when they were young... a paper route is not the same as factory work. I worked at 14 in an ice cream shop. I worked 12 hours a week. I think I got $1.35 an hour. They aren't the same. Make companies pay a LIVING WAGE!
Except Swift was being satirical when he wrote 'A Modest Proposal' & the authors of crap calling for ending child labor prohibitions are being 'serious'.
There's is no threat of organised worker strikes or communist/socialist states, so they have nothing forcing them to increase pay, it will not happen, they will not do it, its litteraly the last thing they will do.
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Calling 13 to 17 year olds "young adults" is omega deranged when nearly every person doesn't develop brain functionalities enough to be fully functional in society until you're 25 or higher (or never in cases with severe mental health issues).
Yeah, and there's a huge difference between 13 and 17 in a child's develompment, physically, mentally and cognitively. They can't and shouldn't be treated as a uniform group.
sadly they dont care, trust me been told to my face enough times that my Autism spectrum diagnsis isnt an excuse and the doctors are quacks there isa growinbg segment of those with money and power that would wipe out all mental health services and worse others who think those with severe special needs should just be put down, and theyre growing more and more comfortable saying that shit where it can be heard and backtracking to save face. your a body to work the machine that keeps them on top, or your a corpse to alot of these rich old assholes
Stop repeating this absolute crap. It's the new "You only use 10% of your brain." The brain is way more complicated than that and nobody has ever said that you aren't "fully functional" in society until you're 25 because that idea is just stupid. There are countless 18-25 year olds with full time jobs, who live on their own, and who are "fully functional".
Strongly disagree. Nature marked adulthood with fertility. Modern society oppresses people long past reaching adulthood. The capacity to have children or not is not an opinion. Creatures, not just humans, as well as plants are adults once they reach the amount of maturity to mate and have offspring. Your opinion doesn't match the real truth. You are delusional and support spreading your delusions.
falcongamer58 You can't. From a biological perspective (science here), all mammals, including humans, go through two (2) life stages after birth: Childhood (infantile phase) and adult. What separates the two? Puberty. That implies that the so called teenage "phase" is really part of adulthood. We humans are the only ones that created a false category of teenage hood in order to prolong the child hood phase, simply because we want to.
Sounds like the difference is the parents. My parents put me and my siblings through private school. Both of us boys had jobs outside of the home by 15. The legal age at the time. We also had jobs before that, hay bailing and bucking, fixing fence line, working with heavy equipment. At 13. It wasn’t a big deal. We had cash to spend on things we wanted and learnt a lot of important lessons. Example, I didn’t want to be a farm hand……education was important to get a better job, and money is a nice thing to have.
The answer is to repair the clan family group. Notice I didn’t say “nuclear”. Larger family groups mean more stability and more layers of protection for kids. But that answer doesn’t get support from too many people that have been conditioned against it by living in the modern corporate world.
Yeah, children should not be working in a slaughterhouse. They should have jobs like selling / delivering newspapers, waitressing working at a summer camp selling ice cream
I wrote an article in HS ('95) talking about the fact that the things we were learning in HS weren't going to really help us in the real world. All these stupid exams we pass and then forget about. I started working at 14, dropped out of HS at 16, then went back at 17 and dropped out again. Went for my GED, got it, and haven't used the damn thing till this day.😅😂
Did you watch the vid? Your comment belies that you watched. Flooding a country with migrants to exploit and use to suppress wages is not a "great depression" and now using children to do the same just shows it's greed and corruption.
This all tracks back to the UN. They've been passing child labor for decades through out the world. That and using women as a tool to destabilize governments
If we want to stop child labor in the U.S I feel like the simplest way to do that is forcing every job wanting to make kids work is pay them the same amount as everyone else. It bothers me and confuses me that because of age and as well gender can let employers pay you less than the minimum wage the state requires. Screw things like minimum hours needed to work that's just a loop hole to screw over kids.
it's cute that people still think there are solutions to "fix" the intended outcomes of capitalism. It's like talking about how to make a weapon unalive the fewest number of lives possible, while fully intending to use that weapon to unalive as many lives as possible. I'm very tired of playing word games with the banbots
Or, you know, closing the border and stop advertising the country as a sanctuary state so we stop child trafficking? This isn't the locals sending their kids to factories it's corporations exploiting illegal migrants.
The hyper libertarian types never factor in that these jobs are designed like abusive relationships. The kids are exploited for their obedience to authority and made to think it's immoral to quit or ask for more
I wouldn't call them hyper libertarian. Child workers have been advocated for by nearly every part of the political spectrum at some point or another. This one is currently caused by neoliberal/neoconservative groups who are funded by multi billion dollar companies who want cheap labor.
Don’t dare give them an out like “they never factor it in,” they know exactly what the deal is and they’re perfectly happy as long as they have someone lower on the pecking order.
It's very easy to exploit children. They don't know their rights, they don't have the emotional maturity to recognize when they are being exploited, and they don't have the knowledge on how to properly push back against such exploitation. In studies where companies have been found guilty of wage theft, it has been shown that the younger the workforce is, the egregious the instances of wage theft was. In places with more mature workforces, you would see cases where workers was not paid the overtime they deserved as the company attempted to skirt around regulations for certain groups -- typically in situations where people needed to be on-call or where longer work hours were necessary to meet deadlines. However, in places with younger workforces, such as fast food and retail, wage theft was occurring across the board for ALL employees, many of whom had no idea that they were being stolen from until an older, more experienced individual was hired who was both knowledgeable enough to recognize the exploitation and strong enough to push back against the practice. So of course these businesses want child workers; they know they can push them around, and the children won't talk back.
I'm actually of the opinion that 13 as a minimum age is fine, if kids WANT to make money at that age, let them The problem is that many parents don't make enough money and have to rely on THEIR CHILDS INCOME Child labor should always be optional, as a young teen I always wanted a job because having money at that age is very much appreciated It should never get to a point where 2 working adults don't make enough to fully cover their child and that child HAS to work
The parent also shouldn't be allowed to just take the money whenever they want. Seen way too many of those cases where a kid was robbed of thousands purely because they were under 18
Here in Germany, we have also the issue of a tight labor market. But certain industries and sectors in our economy are screaming louder for employees then others. Usually those with poor working conditions and bad sallery. I think a lot of people in western societies are tired of being exploited and go into more profitable jobs. Using the resulting advantage to thier favor.
In the Netherlands we have had lower minimum wages for kids for a long time now and it never ceases to baffle me. It is crazy to me that employers are allowed to pay a 15 year old 4 euro per hour for time that could be spent on education and social development. Or doing something good for society like volunteering. No wonder people are getting dumber and more selfish. Worst part is that these dumb and selfish people will just keep voting for the neoliberals or fascists that profit from ignorance.
Ahh thank you. I can never get my thoughts together for comments, but this was essentially floating around in my head. Because, yeah, who needs an educated, mature population🙄? Ppl really need to get their heads out of their behinds.
Our votes have never mattered. Please see this. The sooner we see we are enslaved the sooner we can be free. Voting lesser evils only affects you morally and spiritually as it is a pledge of support. That is why they have us vote. They do need our approval. PLEASE stop giving it to them.
I find it hilarious hearing about a labor shortage when I am trying to get into a union electrical apprenticeships and and theres 150 -200 people at the union halls on application day. Only about 50 people get in per year. Tried for years and its always this bad getting in.
The ‘labor shortage’ is all corporate propaganda. They make ghost jobs and understaff so they can point at their ghost jobs and understaffed locations and demand the government make things easier for them.
Remember minimum wage back in the 1960s was 1.25$ people working for minimum generally were paid in coins. Rarely small bills. 90% silver quarters adjusted for inflation means minimum wage federally for most people was 58$/hr adjusted for inflation or approximately 129600 dollars per year in todays money.
I've worked since I was 14, which happened to be in Va (ages 14-18) and I was never paid below minimum wage. Just because companies can pay sub-optimal doesn't mean kids have to get a job there.
Big issue I'm wondering about with the home lives of the kids who end up in these places- how are they getting to & from work if they're too young to even legally get a drivers' license?
So that's why companies don't want to hire. They'd rather force children to work than to ever take adults because children are more exploitable. It's actually fucking evil, like a whole new level of evil.
Leaving comment here for the algorithm. There’s a cheap labor shortage because it’s not a living wage shortage, this is legalized slavery caused by the people who benefited from slavery.
our country is going backwards, and the people seem to be okay with it. In fact there's a lot of labor violations going on and literally nobody is doing anything about it.
It’s going backwards because the liberal world that had its seeds planted in 1901 with Theodore Roosevelt and came to fruition with FDR and reached its apex under Clinton is dying. It’s dying for a multitude of factors but it is dying. Expect things that were hallmarks of 20th century liberal agenda to be gradually pushed back and dismantled over the course of the 21st century.
Yes, I have issues, we all do. How much of that is related to me mowing lawns at 10? Helping my parents with chores as early as I can recall, or getting my first real job at 13 picking grapes? Later, I worked at 14 in a restaurant. I now own a restaurant. And yes I did technically drop out of high school. My work ethic is strong. I do believe it is very important for kids to get jobs. But with substantial protections. I've hired so many neighborhood kids and now some of their kids are looking for jobs. I think I've personally corrected the path heading towards prison towards education and home ownership ownership for a number of individuals. It is very rewarding to earn legitimate money at the 13-17 year old age range. In my state though, they need to meet a minimum Gpa and can only work a few short shifts a week. But for a restaurant, that is a perfect match. Judging by how many former employees bring in their families, it must have been a positive experience for them.
Did you somehow miss that he was saying it in reference to business and that his goal is to allow kids to work? Somehow, you missed the entire point of the video.
It’s a mystery how some politicians have extremely line pockets while doing almost nothing. And how they seem to always sponsor the bills that makes life’s worse for everyone who’s not rich.
I can't say the company I work for, but it is a fortune 500 company. I am an industrial ammonia systems operator and mechanic. We contract out the facility cleaning staff because of how enormous the factory is and because we are required to have nightly sanitation of all machines and equipment related to manufacturing and production. The cleaning company was bringing in children as young as 13 to clean within an industrial factory before they got busted by the government.
Allowing young adults to work and forcing them to work are two seperate issues. The American education system is bad and getting worse. Who are you to say a teenager cannot get a better education from an employer than they get get from an increasing sub par public education system?
Forced Child Labour is unacceptable plus unsafe work places and kids shouldn’t be anywhere near a slaughter house. Kids need to be given time for themselves but with the way the world going earlier you start making money the better. Plus you’d have to do lots of safeguarding and safety protocols to make sure ain’t any workers that are nounces
The educational system would need a major overhaul to be able to actually teach kids life skills. Other than reading and basic math it's a way to take up the kids' time for the day to allow the parents to go to work, and to meter the kids out into the work force in a regulated way so they don't take up all the jobs with their lower cost of labor. Maybe montessori style school can actually prepare people for life, but not the highly politicized public system. It's far too wrapped up in crappy laws by now.
i agree with you. You can have training programs in schools with corporate help. They can train them and make them simulate what they would do in real life. so Zero danger. They both can get skilled workers, yet im sure they still wanna pay them nothing.
i have been raging about this since it passed in my state. kids can literally work in the mines and with heavy machinery now, man. when i was a teenager (and i'm only 21) if you're under 16, you couldn't work remotely dangerous jobs and couldn't work past 7pm during the school year. at a restaurant i worked at when i was 16, the under 16 kids weren't allowed to go in the freezer or work in the kitchen. i work at the DMV, and this year my state passed a "special minor restricted driver's license" for 14 year olds, literal children, to be able to drive to school, work, home, and a secondary address within a 20 mile radius, basically giving kids free reign to drive without an adult. before that, we had the school permit which was just home to school to home. they also passed a law that kids can work to 10pm during the school year.
There are several fast food places near us that absolutely have children under the age of 14 working at them. You don't expect a lot from Virginia but obviously Virginia really wants to go back to it's highly problematic roots
Fellow Virginia resident here and based on the massive changes I've seen around me the past few years as well as what I personally experienced growing up I can safely say things are far more screwed than people realize. The sheer amount of people that choose to be oblivious to what is materializing around them is absolutely staggering, and it is 100% them choosing. I understand the old saying ignorance is bliss but willful ignorance is unacceptable.
@@invisimine I live in the southwest part of Virginia. I have a wonderful view of our second tallest mountain from my front porch. You're welcome to come by and hangout. You choose to see what others refuse so I think that just made us best friends......like in the movie Stepbrothers lol.
Thank you for accurately explaining the tip wage. I regularly argue with wait staff that are convinced they they only make $2/hr if they don't make tips. it's sad they are lied to so much they don't even read the labor poster in the business that explains their rights and even start yelling at me saying I don't know what I'm talking about till I throw the DOL website at them
Every single time people say there's a labor shortage in an industry, jobs all of a sudden become hard to find in that same industry. So Im inclined to believe that it's never true
well lets start with the fact that rich eurocentrics are hell bent on reestablishing overt feudalism and are currently the biggest investors in perpetuating european monarchy... perhaps those benefitting the most from this behavior are the ones orchestrating it? dont think these kinds of things just happen on coincidence. you dont accidentally receive the lions share of profits extracted from the human species in this kind of economic organization...
Because it is a balance of interests and values. We never extinguished people who seek to exploit other humans. They are finding new rhetorical outlets to gain consensus and today work is the new religion, in America at least.
@@pif5023 Piggy backing on this; humanity has been ruled by sociopaths since the beginning. There are always those who don't work with the same general guidelines that others do, for whom no amount of gain will be enough and no price is too big to pay- so long as they aren't paying it. But for the majority of us who don't think like that, we assume others think like we do, and then that gets used against us. We can write all the laws we want, with good intentions and fair checks and balances, but with absolutely no caveats, inevitably people with resources and the will to do so will dismantle or work around those efforts. Humanity is a beautiful tragedy.
Oh believe me I noticed when this started, I just didn't and still don't know how to stop it. It started briefly after the recovery from the pandemic when companies were desperate for workers. If I remember correctly it was due to corrupt politicians wanting to pass a bill that would allow child labor again, but in certain States.
I think my jobs as a youth were beneficial, but only because one was with my dad as an electrician - learning the trade and beholden to no schedule, just show up when I can help (paid well above minimum wage), and the other was lifeguarding during school breaks. I wasn't distracted from school in this regard and felt I was learning while working anyways. I suppose I support apprenticeship then.
While dangerous jobs are definitely not for kids. My entire extended family made a living and made it out of poverty by working since we were 8 years of age. This has made us some pretty capable and hardworking adults. Labor shortages are real in my world. I am a handyman and I could sure use subminmum wage to train youth to become a minimum wage earner. The more concerning labor issue is hardworking, life appreciating, and productive babyboomers leaving the workforce while the youth knows how to do very little outside of moving fingers.
I fully support kids getting odd jobs at a young age, just to start to learn the concept of earning and spending their own money, and giving them a bit of responsibility on a smaller scale. But like you say, I'm thinking child and pet sitting, basic garden tasks, paper boy, maybe a bit of retail at absolute most, and only for a few hours here and there. But kids absolutely should not be put into areas like manufacturing and factory work, and/or long term employment. This is just another push to expoit the poor and woking class, becuase you can bet you won't be seeing any billionaiires kids scrubbing the floors of factories at 13 years old.
Thanks for watching!! As usual, this is edited from a livestream (I stream every Friday at 7.30pm EST)
Some notes worth adding:
- There's a whole separate story here about how subminimum wages, and child labor protection rollbacks are linked with immigration (in the case of agriculture, a lot of the workers are migrant children). That honestly would deserve it's own video entirely so I decided to focus on the legislative side of things here. We did briefly talk about it on stream tho.
- I am (clearly) not american, but if you are then I suggest you check out OpenSecrets. It's a really handy website that allows you to see who funds specific politicians and is super insightful if you wanna learn more about that stuff! Many countries have a similar version of this too.
- Apologies for any awkward pronunciations of US states lmao
no this platform has been muting me for years now ive been saying its happening
mississippi kansas kentucky and utah are taking them from around the country and selling them into elite beds
why they attack any social servants as being to nosy
births to cases are surprisingly lazed for a state with underfunded social servants
the only difference between us and red states is we actually charge our diddy thats it
Finally, 18 year olds with 20 years of experience. Perfect for hiring managers.
and even with that 20 years of experience they will earn subminimumwage cuz they are under 20 yrs of age Xd
Why is it that any time someone refers to "children" as "young adults" it's always in an attempt to justify something that should be a crime even with fully grown adults? It's never about respecting others or giving more rights.
Pretty sure pedophiles think this way too- Diddy r Kelly Epstein 🤮
Well, you see:
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
@@emzetkin1100 The book that Kindle deleted from it's sales lists AND from every Kindle, even if customers had already paid for and downloaded it.
Can't wait for the pedophilia allegations.
children are always young adults when its convenient to adults. but then they're "just kids" any other day
"give me a break" BRO GIVE THOSE KIDS A BREAK
They should make his grandkids work in those places under the same conditions, maybe his tune will change. I’m sick of these rich people
@sgnibble1 it's just a shame the other side isn't that cooperative either.
@@mikepalmieri4989 how so?
Why is it that any time someone refers to "children" as "young adults" it's always in an attempt to justify something that should be a crime even with fully grown adults? It's never about respecting others or giving more rights.
@@sgnibble1 Not a good idea people like that will just use that as a poor justification of the "just pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mindset, completely blind to their advantages and "luck" and they will completely dissociate and misunderstand just what everyone else is going through while falsely believing that they do understand.
There was a person who "tried" being homeless for a month to prove a point and even though he had to give up on his "experiment" because of "family matters" he still came to the wrong conclusion that he "would have been able to work his way out of it if it wasn't for X".
If you had told me 20 years ago that this is the world I’d be living in as an American I would’ve laughed. This country feels more like a dystopian novel every year.
your country was already a dystopia 20 years ago. Expensive as hell healthcare and black segregation was only banned in the 60s
@@carlossalmeronpalenzuela3320 Yeah, from the looks of things we should have kept it in place. Democrats are pushing to bring it back. 😂😂😂
You thought everything was going in the right direction back then? I envy your happiness. Since I was 9 years old, back in the mid-2000's, I looked around and said "This school system is r3tarded. If people are falling for this nonsense, then there's no saving this country." I would be surprised if America had turned out any other way.
I was very pleasantly surprised when Trump became President. But I think the Deep State is smart enough to not let that happen again. Only a miracle from God can save us now.
Other countries manage it. Americans might just have to accept that starting their own country was a bad idea in the first place, and cancel this whole experiment.
@@Here_is_Waldo I get why you're in hiding.
“work is a gift that our kids can handle” is a uniquely dystopian phrase
It wouldn't seem out of place in the story of 1984
"work shall set you free"
@libervitaexaltis4551 stop pawning off farm equipment
Starting work at 14 and by 18 suffering from permanent lower back pain. What a time to be alive.
People aren't having children because they can't afford them. I reckon the 1% has decided the solution to falling birthrates is sending kids out for a wage, then people would pop them out again. Need another income? Have another kid.
Corporations would rather spend millions lobbying for child labor than raise wages to livable standard.
They are run by psychopaths
Its been like this forever.
I don't get it... what is the reason for not paying children at least minimum wage? I mean... if a kid is working, it's most likely because they need the money, right?
It's about control
@@sophiashekinah9872 Because they want to keep their money
No there's not "labour shortage" - there's a shortage of people wanting to be exploited at (or even below - with trickery and threat of being fired etc.) minimum wage and that is a GOOD THING! Just like quiet quitting bad jobs (so doing the least amount possible while looking for better work!)!
This is on the whole true. Many people in the US are underemployed, which official statistics don't show. The U6 labor statistic shows ca. 8% unemployment in the US. Wages have stagnated and real wages are trending downwards.
Not even that. Unemployment stats aren’t based on people without jobs - they’re based on jobs without people. Those jobs obviously can’t attract workers, and under capitalism should fail. But we have socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor
This. There is no labor shortage when America still has it unemployment problem, it has an exploitation problem.
to be fair there is a labour shortage since less and less people get kids, thus making pensions more difficult and such, which yes indeed government bad they did this
They just bussed in millions to replace you.
I don't generally share this with people in person, but I was employed at 11... Was told it was to build character and it's good exercise. The funniest thing is that they also then try to claim I don't need a full wage either
People that do this to kids are sociopaths.
I started working at 10, doing jobs around the neighborhood. By 13, I was working summer jobs that tore my body up. I worked and went to high school, standing on my feet for hours. By 30, my body wasn't any good.
It's weird how accepted it is to underpay minors. Common argument why burger flippers shouldn't be paid a living wage is "Those jobs are for teenagers, not adults."
@@LeSpeederus Like who's covering afternoons on a Tuesday though...
Now you know what it’s like to be in the third world, or at least the child labor part
They will always find an excuse for why people should be treated as slaves.
Slavery is older than Homo Sapiens. We have been trying to abolish it, but it's going to be very difficult and take centuries to change something so ancient
I had a substitute teacher argue with me a few years ago when I brought up loosening regulations on child labor and how its going to be terrible because obviously children being exploited for their labor isnt good. His argument was "well those were implemented forever ago when it was actually a problem, no one wants to send their kids to the mines anymore"
LIKE DUDE YES THEY WILL. WHEN THERE IS NO LAW TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM MAKING MONEY OFF A SET OF PEOPLE WITH NO VOTING RIGHTS THEYLL DO IT.
the "this is modern world" mindset is quite the blinding disease.... idiotic hubris..
How is it possible for someone to openly advocate for child labor and still be an active politician?
"The children yearn for the mines."
Because the people who fund their campaigns write those laws and campaign on their behalf to keep that stuff quiet.
On the record? In public? I oppose it. In private? At voting day?
“Well… there was an extra provision tacked in that was really important to my constituents and I had been working on that for decades so I voted yes to the child labor bill that was called “restore local jobs act” - I honestly didn’t notice it legalized child labor… I deeply regret my vote”
If they cant bribe you with money, or trick you with a nice title - imagine voting no to “all the good stuff and free money with no downsides act” - they will find your pet political project and add in some pork.
I met someone in a social Justice group who wanted to run for senate and she was saying that her 11 year old wanted to work and she wanted to make it possible for her to do that. People have real issues. She said “she wants to start working and help with bills. She’s ready.” Like bro you are a bad parent and you’d make a terrible leader.
Because quite frankly many republican voters think it’s great if a 14 yr old had a job. “Builds character!” They say.
Judges and politicians should be forced to wear their sponsors on their sleeves like nascar drivers. it would make a lot more sense if a congressman with an “Exon Mobile” sticker on his back was pushing zoning regulation to require a natural gas line. Or if a “McDonald’s” senator was in favour of lower the minimum wage for under 18 year olds. All I want is transparency in governance.
You're better off in any other country if you want transparency. USA just convinces their citizens every other country is worse, like some sort of weird abusive relationship.
Not going to happen. Never
Oh boy if you would make it a reality you eouldnt ever see a corporate brand but something you will notice is ethnogenetic
How i know? Because i looked what many of these "sponsors" have in common and especially their heritages
love it
George Carlin.
There is no labor shortage. There is a shortage of jobs that pay a living wage.
Edit: I am seriously shocked at how this blew up.
if you're going to be homeless even if you work you might as well just enjoy the freedom
True but also there are a lot of people who died during COVID
@@Leftistatthepartyless than 1 percent of the worldwide population is not a lot
@@CucombrKat but muh confirmed cases 😮😮😮
not for migrants packing 5-10 people a house
Very well-spoken and informative presentation. I was guilted by my parents into working 9.5 hours hoeing strawberry fields 6 days/ week when I was 14-17. I remember praying for rain on blazing hot August days so I could get an early dismissal and truckbed ride home. I have achieved much in my lifetime but am certain this was deleterious to my social and personal development spending so many summertime hours in solitude with little mental stimulation while my friends played and socialized. This call to awareness is appreciated, believe me.
My parents did the same thing to me as well. Once I was 15 years old in HS my parents told me “You NEED a job! When I was 8 years old I had a job throwing newspaper out!!!”
Full time student at high school mixed with being a worker was miserable. After 8 hours of school I would work for 6+ hours, sleep, and wake up just to live the same day everyday like I was stuck in purgatory. I worked at subway at 15, my coworkers were even younger then me, and yes, it went against labor law for employing minors for some of them.
Having no time for myself, making minimum wage, feeling trapped, I wanted to end it all (I didn’t tho so that’s good 👍)
Needed a fidget spinner? Ngmi
I’ve recently fallen down a rabbit hole of learning about early twentieth century labor movements here in the US and I’ve realized that we only have our current labor rights because of people that literally died fighting their employers, and most of this was only possible because of unions.
Except many unions have turned sour and toxic for their members. Not all, but many. They cut deals between themselves and the employer often excluding the actual worker while gladly taking that membership fee. In my own experience anyway
Wild that this seems to not be taught or known at all in the US. In Europe it's an important part of the history class portfolio.
@@indoorkite651Except, that isnt true in a lot of cases but the perception of idiots and incompetents who don't go to the voluntary meetings.
So its the same few guys doing alllllll the paperwork. All the time.
There's corruption in any institution and it is woefully disingenuous to act like unions are some extreme example of this.
Unions require active participation, and not getting news on unions from your idiot coworkers.
@@fueyo2229I was very much taught this.
I'm thankful for the excellent education I was afforded in my small rural town.
I learned how to think for myself.
I learned of all of our hard fought rights.
That right wingers want to piss away.
While calling themselves patriots.
The destruction of the US is coming wrapped all snug and tight in the US flag and it is the people who claim they love it the most carrying it.
@@BlueRidgeBubble sure, but that wasn’t my experience now I want no part, and that should be anyone’s choice
This isn't just child labor, every advancement made in the labor movement has been systematically attacked by capital, that's why working conditions are what they are currently, all of this is intentional.
This!
Intentional, and _international._
I build america. Working conditions are fine where I'm at. Having your hardhat out of reach can result in a writeup from the saftey guy...
Of course there are some shady companies out there, requiring dilligence from would be employees reporting to OSHA.
In general we are tracking in the right direction. Even 20 years ago jobsites were much less safe than today.
This so why the powers that be have wanted to import foreign illegal workers.
@@mikepalmer1971there always has to be a population desperate enough to work for slave wages coming here tis been the fact of America since James towns
Super high inequality! Monopolies! Activist Billionaires! Child Labor! Is it 1884 or 2024? Gilded Age part 2, Electric Boogaloo!
Billionaires? Your thinking too small, multi-trillion dollar hedge funds pushing their weight around in government and business to allow such things.
Good ol' neo-feudalism
@@ClaySano I have family that have been paying rent to landlords since the French revolution. Serfdom never ended for my bloodline.
@@Praisethesunson it ends with you. "Prison" is a free hotel. "Murder" is just an electrical signal being lost. In minecraft ofc
Also tons of immigrants flooding into the country for borderline Slave Labor
I worked as a kid in foster care doing unpaid labor maintaining facilities, cooking meals, etc. and later when I got my GED and then a job, the company that was my guardian took most of my paychecks to pay for the foster care. This nullified any potential to save up money and start my adult life.
my family must have fostered wrong, we put most of the money we got for the kids into trust under their name, so they'd have money for stuff like college when they aged out of the system.
@@mjlh7079 it varies state by state, placement to placement. I was in a state that privatized foster care, my guardian wasn't a social worker but instead an employee of a for-profit foster company. That company cut costs and increased revenue for themselves while being assisted by the state. They cut doctors visits, dental checkups, counseling, clothing allowance, and the amount paid to our foster parents for food and everything else.
There was also a policy (I don't remember if it was a state or corporate thing) that I could only save a maximum of $1200 from working and everything after that would be taken by the foster company to pay for my care... allegedly. I hit that limit in 2 paychecks, then when they dropped that info on me I quit working because I sure as hell wasn't going to work for a company that profits off of orphans. That $1200 was given to my biological parents when I aged out and they dropped me off in a grocery store parking lot with my garbage bag of clothes and books.
I could go on, but it was overall not a good experience. It wasn't as bad before they privatized and allowed companies to profit from the foster care system.
They fostered u right unfortunately orphanage taje advantage off ophanes to much@mjlh7079
😰 that's horrible I hate hate HATE the world we live in
Well, that sucks.
I always worked with my mom and she paid me half of what the employer paid her. Even thou arguably i wasn't doing half of the work.
Though in return she almost never gave me any pocket change nor i ever asked. Because i always had my money and didn't waste (most of) it.
"The wording is 'We're here to harm children.' Give me a break, these are young adults. We're here to harm young adults."
Bro the meat packing plant I work for got sued because a third party company hired middle school aged kids to clean the place, they definitely must’ve had to handle various toxic chemicals to clean an entire facility with hooks, knives, saws and just about every workplace hazard ngl
There will be future lawsuits against these well heeled CEO's, for the damage they have done to children. Modern CEO's especially in meat packing are the lowest of the low. The worship of wealth has shown us exactly how low a human being can fall. These CEO's appear to be a SUBHUMAN Species.
@@annjuurinen6553 Facts. I couldn’t agree more, these CEOs and executives are really doing the most when it comes to maximizing production, they really don’t mind polluting a neighboring town’s rivers or creeks, just as long as they see a profit margin.
The implication of child labor is that it leads to even worse declining birth rates.
I think they are counting on quantity not quality. More unplanned pregnancies from teenagers with little to no access to birth control or schooling will create an easier to exploit permanent underclass!
Why do you think the US right wing movement is working so hard to criminalize access to abortion?
@@tylerbarrios9762 A lot of them just think ending a pregnancy is bad, however they are also supporting the other crappy things that party does without question JUST so they can shove their morals down everyone's throat with the law.
@@tylerbarrios9762 And they are working against birth control pills next, they already allow corporations to ban it from insurance.
@tylerbarrios9762 True, Democrats already stripped our educational system. Now Republicans want as many kids as possible.
I really don't get how more people haven't figured out that the people who own the corporations that these laws benefit are the same people making those laws yet. Our government is run by the corporation owners and bankers, and it has been for decades. Yet somehow people still don't see it.
Because they want to blame regular people. They don't care that it is high up sociopaths that make these decisions if they can blame whytie.
@@tylersingleton9284 That's by design. The ruling class does everything they can to keep the working class at each other's throats. If we're too busy working our 9-5 jobs, taking care of our families, and arguing with each other about left vs right, then we don't have any time or desire to ask who is really pulling the strings. Fun fact: The same person that created the 9-5 work day (Henry Ford) is the same person that a certain famous German dictator loved so much that he had a full sized portrait of him in his office, and Ford is only one of the real n@zis that won the war by funding both sides. Ever wonder how the German "miracle" happened? How a nation that was completely devastated by war was somehow able to rise from the ashes to become a superpower in another world war immediately after? Capital Investment.
They're just that dumb 🤷♂️ the bell curve will keep us on earth for as long as we don't address the elephant in the room that is iq.
For decades? This has been America since before America. Remember that, by and large, the taxes and restrictions imposed on the Thirteen Colonies by the Crown were aimed at the colonial neo-aristocracy. The American Revolution was a bourgeoisie revolution, and its Founders were all wealthy landlords looking out for their own self-interests above all else. "Freedom" was merely a hobby to them, and that only applied to men, like them.
It's special interests actually. Stop blaming the corporations. Look how lgtbxyz forces corporations to be beholden to DIE etc since life 2012
And before that it was forced racial quotas
Like srsly why does no one understand this is literally ..
Bruh why are children working when adults are jobless. I can’t believe this is legal.
Because businesses can use it as an excuse to pay less. Cheaper labor, they don't care about the ethics.
Businesses form special interests and political parties to protect their interests, you should too!
Adults won’t put up with bad jobs on bad wages! Children just want money
@@ConfusedBirthdayCake-so5wd No no no that's terrorism.
@@HeldIntegral or do and give your kids better choices and a better life while not leaving the world to the people who put kids through this
If your company/country can't survive without child labor it shouldn't exist.
talking to people in the US about things like this is like yelling into the wind. we are intentionally misinformed, encouraged to engage in politics in only superficial ways, and people most affected by things like this are so overburdened by the cost of living (and oftentimes, the cost of dying), they don't have the energy to learn on their own
This is terrible cause now we're bringing back the old incentives for people to have kids - an army of workers. I can easily see how this will be abused by abusive parents. I was raised by the kind of adult who would see no issue in putting kids to working if they're making money. The kind of people who would justify it to themselves by saying they need to contribute and children shouldn't be having fun but learning how to support the family through work. Give it 10 years and you'll see more kids being raised by corporations than community
You know it's interesting to think of that in the context of the current population decline in the first world. Maybe that was the secret all along: the thing that really incentivized people to have kids in prior generations was the ability to exploit them for your own gain 💀
Ah, "parents" that narcissistically treat children as mere slaves, as a pet that makes their AWFUL life easier without a thought. And here I was thinking that all parents are innately cruel thus don't deserve a single damn thing from their kids because ALL PARENTS PLAY RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH THEIR KIDS, THE BULLET BEING HORRIBLE HEALTH PROBLEMS OR ABUSE FROM THE WORLD, LIKE A POOR HOUSEHOLD. How many bullets do you think are in the cylinder? Here I was thinking that having kids is purely narcissistic in intentions because what the parent wants the kid to do and accomplish is NOT what the kid wants to do, in fact you have no way of even knowing if it'll want to stay alive in this world WITHOUT ENOUGH SUICIDE RIGHTS. Those beings you mentioned aren't parents, they're sociopaths. They fail the role of a parent, to provide wellbeing and safety for a child until it fully develops it's productivity and independence skills. They treat them more like an ineffective roomba.
@@MisterCynic18 I mean we KNOW why the population has been declining. More people are responsible enough to go “I literally can’t afford children.” That and a perfectly reasonable depressed outlook on the future account for 100% of the reason.
The old incentives were one of the only reasons people had children, especially since religion is dead, functionally anyway.
@@MisterCynic18No, it was for survival.
Canada too. It's legally down to 14 (with parent's permission, but still) in most places and 12 in some. It's pretty transparent that it's just the government bending to the grocery store cartel who don't wanna pay their employees a living wage. It's really jarring going to the store and being helped by kids
They lowered the age you can become a lifeguard to 15 recently in Canada. Its so fucked, some of these kids can barely pull another 15 year old out of the water let alone an adult
@@2008-wii-remotelifeguard? Give me a break we are talking about slaughter houses here buddy
As an aside most child labour in Canada takes place in family run businesses, and you are required to pay children the same wage as an adult, along with the safety standards that a business must adhere to it makes child labour generally less cost effective then just hiring an adult.
Here in Canada I had to work a job at Tim hortons as community service at 13 for burning down a few houses… that people were living in…
I think it's time for workers to own the businesses.
Imagine someone who would starve toddlers to death so their Bank Balance went from $20,000,000,000.00 to $20,000,000,050.00
Now imagine that is EXACTLY who rules the US.
The global market.
These aren’t only American rules.
Corporations are legal persons who have all the rights of born humans, but only one responsibility- to profit.
Yep and they all vote democrat every time
@qoph1988 yeah, because there aren't any Republican billionaires, right?
Tiny hats
@@denofpigs2575big noses
I worked a full time job for about 3 years while I was a kid washing dishes in an industrial setup. Chemicals, accidents, ect were all pretty common, so we're drugs, smoking, drinking. We haven't been a first world country for a while
I live in Arkansas. I work at a McDonald's. We have 2 15 year olds on staff. That law does exist, but it isn't really applied outside the age aspect.
One of our babies as I call them is just working for a little extra money. She wants to buy her own car. $14/hr gets you there.
The other is probably a good reason the law exists. She turned 15 and worked her birthday. Her family situation is pretty bad. Meth. She'll get emancipated at 16 and a full driver's license. She works 20 a week and is saving money for an apartment when she's emancipated. She'll probably be the defacto mom for her 3 year old brother.
In her case, I agree with the law. She has a right to independently get out of her nightmare. She also gets paid $14. We pay every new employee the same. 15 or 55 it's $14 an hour to start.
Shi I was 14-15 years old when I started working at a grocery store, got paid $11/hr to do manager stuff without having the actual position.
There is no labor shortages, there are shortage of cheap labor.
as long as labor literally can't pay the bills, you're gonna struggle to hire someone. Maybe work on making rent and utilities cheaper before thinking about paying people to not survive.
@raze2012_ You don't need anything other than water, bread, and a dry place to sleep. You're living above your means by using electricity. What do you need internet for?
@@user-zu5do6ri6r thank you. By survive most of these entitled people mean being able to live in expensive apartments downtown, drive luxury cars, have door dash delivered four nights a week etc. just for flipping burgers
@@nitroneonicmanUnlike most countries, it is not out of this world for people in an extremely developed country to want those things.
@@captain_improbability5690 wants are not basic necessities, that's the point. You are not owed luxuries for working at McDonald's. If you want luxuries then go to college. 70% of billionaires have a college degree. The other option is working two jobs. If you're not willing to do either of these things then you can shut up as far as I'm concerned.
They will force you to have children then have those children work before they pay people more during a labor shortage.
Yeah, Roe v Wade getting struck and now this? It's very obvious what's happening.
It would be nice if we could get a lot of our fellow humans to realize this:
Government's control over "Births, Deaths and Marriages" isn't meaningless!
It is an indirect breeding program to try and get 'the right person' for whatever the government needs.
Much like our education programs are nothing more then 'specializing to the government needs.'
aint nobody forcing me to have children brah xdddd
@@lostbutfreesoul but what does the government need?
Well they can suck it 😂
Exploiting the innocence of children instead of paying a living wage is sickening
No, we noticed. But the people with the money made it happen.
We noticed.
We can't stop it.
The PEOPLE cannot stop their GOVERNMENT!!!
I mean you can its called a revolution weither an active violent one, or a passive one. But the governements are essentially making careful choices to profit the most without going so far that the populace are going to accept laying their lives down for their ideals, and while its not fine we cant exactly blame each other for that.
Big Change dont come from the top, it comes from the bottom, if it comes from the top it means its made FOR the top (example: Japan which is absolutely NOT a good country to live in because for all of their traditions, they kept the one most harmful to the locals for the benefits of the elite), i know the US is brainwashed into thinking socialism is bad, but thats not truly the case, only part of it is bad. The truly bad thing is wealth inequality of such absurd scale allowed by the thriving of capitalism and globalism in its current state, because ironically capitalism in its purest form doesnt encourage competition it encourages monopolies because only a few big companies can just cooperate to manipulate the governing body of every country to make laws giving them privileges. Governing body which is PARAMOUNT to us humans living in a society, and paramount to making sure companies dont rule over every facet of our lives, which is hard when everyone in said governing body is open for corrupti-i mean totally legal lobbying which is definitly not corruption with another name so we can look good on a corruption index
Not true. Vote for Donald Trump and Republican Congress runners from Oct.8th-Nov.5th.
@@DaLink25 just as corrupt if not even more nothing uncorrupt will come from the already deeply corrupt 2 party system
@@DaLink25 "not true" why? Care to actually explain WHY what this person said is wrong? Isn't it crazy how you brush off an informed opinion without substantiating your claim that they are wrong?
Yes you can. With your VOTE.
The irony of the school system being designed to produce obedient little factory workers. School has the effect of work because of that. Kids not working is a side effect of living in a wealthy country. Child labor is a sign of economic poverty in some regard
"Child labor is a sign of economic poverty in some regard"
Here is an example that goes against this:
Brazil is one of the 10 largest economies in the world. Why is there porverty?
Poverty is the result of an extreme concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. Almost half of money coming from taxes in Brazil go to the financial system. - And the tax system there makes that the lower classes are those who contribute the most and receive the least support.
Elite-backed far-right politicians advocate legalizing child labor and cutting funding for public schools because this would provide a large source of cheap labor (obviously, the children of the rich go to good expensive schools).
Poverty is not random, it is planned.
I hate this "Parents freedom" talk, even if it is a lie, it still sounds like parents see their children as their cattle.
Have you seen some of these morons walking around?
They are cattle.
Not cattle, but they are under their parents' ownership.
its the worst thing in history. parents should not have ownership over their children. its simply wrong. children are people, with rights and needs that are not those of their parents.
@@pigslam There are way worse things than parents owning their children. I could list 5 things that are worse actually.
1. Genocide.
2.Rape and molestation.
3.murder.
4. Animal abuse.
5. Actual, genuine exploitation of other people.
A parent owning their child until they are an adult wouldn't even be on a top ten list of terrible things much less be the "worst thing in history."
@@pigslam Welcome to the ugly reality that most parents see their kids as property or assets.
Children can work at home, they can help with the dishes, mowing the lawn, painting a fence, cleaning the sidewalk. No bussiness should be allowed to hire kids.
the only exception i would see is a small family business that's a convivence store or restaurant cleaning the tables
But do their labor give me money?
HAS I TOGHT!!!
@@liamsteele4982that’s goes without saying
@@liamsteele4982 No. No exceptions. It just opens the door to child abuse. Small business is still business and a workplace where children have no business working. Children are not investors or business partners.
I honestly see no issue with kids having jobs. I don't see it as really being any different than participating in athletics or other extracurricular activities after school. Those things can be time-consuming and stresful as well, so they often aren't necessarily different from a job. I worked at a school where kids were routinely kept after school at late hours on school nights, and I seemed to be the only staff member who had an issue with it. I think that jobs for kids can be great as long as the employer follows the child labor rules. However, like schools, they often don't follow the rules, and therein lies the problem. We need spaces in the world that are FOR kids with their needs in mind, whether that be jobs, extracurriculars, fun activities to do in the community, etc. However, the idea that those places should lack protections for children is insane.
The whole "children are adults" idea takes away the idea of teenhood as well as misses huge parts of development. We may be going back to "You're a child then an adult" regarding laws.
Not only that but the hypocrisy that those same "young adults" aren't allowed to do other adult things like vote, or self-determination 😂
i have a perfect explanation for this. well off eurocentrics brains stop developing in toddlerhood. so to them, they truly dont understand what an adult actually is. thats why they are some of the only people on earth who are capable of looking you in the eye and saying you can do 15 hours of hard labor per day while only eating 200 calories 3x a week. no adult thinks thats a reasonable expectation or even consider it any less than torturing people to death with labor induced starvation for entertainment and ego...
@@danycashkingthey are the perfect workers, can’t vote, can’t complain because who listens to a child and can pay them low it’s not like they need just doing eats jobs, and if they aren’t well, just blame someone else for their safety, what’s a few lost limbs and a few millions law suit compared to all the millions you make
Reminds me of the Creepy push for the Acceptance of MAPs or Minor attracted Person.
@@silverhawkscape2677(sobs in missing when MAPs meant *just* "Multi Animator Project")
Yeah, and not only that but the intentional fingerpointing at the LGBT+ community as "the true MAPs" while politicians are out here taking away sex ed (the number one means for kids to report CSA), allowing legal marriages with minors, and preventing pregnant people (including minors) to be forced to carry to term even if it kills them, or trap them in said marriages.
Eventually we'll be looking at the "Are you sure she/he isnt an adult at 14?"
This is a slippery slope, and there is shit being added to the hill everyday.
I thought slippery slope was a fallacy??
We brining back the Victorian Era with this one 🗣🔥🔥🔥
Also delivery drivers operate under the same rules as a waitress. We get paid less when on the road. So while the people making the food get paid minimum wage to make the food I’m getting paid 3$-5$ per hour and the argument is always “delivery drivers make the most” sure, we “make the most” at the end of the night, but we don’t make a profit. All that money goes to gas and car maintenance and whatever I am tipped in credit of debit they take off your paycheck. That’s supposed to be illegal but when I spoke with a lawyer about it they claim that there’s a lot of loopholes they can use to get around it unfortunately. This stuff is disgusting I can and have worked 7 days a week both weeks 8-12 hours a day and only come home with a $200-$300 paycheck.
solution: stop working, stop getting exploited, sell your home and live in a tent or something because it's so much cheaper, live off of water and bread
That is shit but your a bozo for sticking with such a job lmao fast food makes more and is plentiful
@@TheRealNiktWazny I turned to crime and shoplift my food. Being in and out of jail has changed my life for the better. I never pay my fines and that has only helped me. Home ownership is out of the question for me so i can throw away just about everything and be happy as i shit on the streets.
Problem: "Once in a lifetime" crises are happening every 10 years.
Solution: Work on shortening the life expectancy to 10 years.
The fact that we are always in crisis is engineered
I shouldn't have laughed at this but its whats happening.
I'm noticing as I get older that material luxuries I desire would basically make me a faceless slaver to far away exploited people.
always prioritize local business and see how you can strengthen your local economy
@@WerewolfofEpicness it's useful to do though if nothing else is done then these businesses will disappear and be replaced with slave labour from the 3rd world
support your local communist party, more like
There isnt a labor shortage. There's a shortage of people willing for a negative net cost/wage ratio. Education, vehicle, insurance, and gas cost more than many of these jobs pay. If a 20yo has to live at their parents' place and use their patents' car, then what's the motivation to waste your day at smoothie king?
And constantly bringing in cheap labor to kill wages
Greed...its whats ruining this country
It runs every country in one way or another.
@@mikepalmer1971Not like in America. We are the richest country in the world and I’ve travelled to many other first world countries and poverty here is like nothing else I’ve seen.
Nothing but everyone loving God with all their heart mind and strength and loving one another as someone would love themselves will change the way this country is or even how this world is right now.
"nobody" noticed lol there are a lot of people who did just nobody cared to listen to them when there is lobbyists in their pockets.
Alot of parents want this. Sorry to say. It should be normalized to learn to work at 14. full time work from 16-18 to pay back your parents or college for sponging of them and getting them ready for the real world. the high school system is just a rubber stamp anyway. you should be learning to pay taxes at 16 not analysing macbeth lol.
@@olmsfam1”sponging off them” like they aren’t the literal product they CHOSE to make. Bffr. If you have a kid it’s your responsibility to take care of it until AT LEAST the age of 18. If you can’t handle that don’t have kids.
@@olmsfam1 those aren’t parents, just greedy broke people. How can you justify children working full time hours…while still in school. That’s hard enough for many college students to even do part time. Your fucking trolling
@@olmsfam1 paying back your parents for the bare minimum is pretty crazy.
@@olmsfam1 how about we have financial literacy classes AND poetry in high school instead of burning it all down to try and get your kids to "pay you back".
You know what pays you back? your kid making 6 figures out of college because you put them through a good education.
I've been working since 15 years old. I most certainly regret working since 15 years old. There is little to no time for socializing, exploring hobbies, learning ect. I sometimes wonder how much better off I would have been had I not worked for most of my teen years
This is how I feel about being homeschooled and working: I'd work a crappy fast-food job, come home, do housework and make dinner, then do an absurd amount of self-paced coursework, then wake up and do it all over again the next day. And since I wasn't able to socially network or grow, and since my coursework wasn't easily accessible by anyone other than my mother and me, I didn't get anywhere near a college scholarship.
I still don't know how to file a FAFSA, I still don't really understand my taxes (I let a website do them for me every year), I still don't know how to drive at 23 years old, and I'm sick and tired of being stuck in my small town. I love my mom, I love my family, but I can't help but feel like they failed me in some regards. I'm probably just being entitled and cruel, I guess.
Yeah you might've missed out a bit, but also depended if you actually did stuff with your time too lol, but yeah I don't think working at 15 is always good if no time is dedicated to your extracurricular activities.
mean ive been told that socializing, hobbies etc arnt a right, your a servant first and formost, i grew up dreading adulthood because it was basically shown to me your nothing but a drone you go to work,hate the work, make the money to struggle to pay your rent, and you die young and have your relatives they are "at that age" and to just get use to death. I'm sick of seeing adults who work thier asses off day in and day out die with dreams and aspriations killed long before they themselves did. because being homeless is equal to being a corpse (which now is if you refuse to be chained for not having a place to sleep)) we are gonna have an uptick in prison labor as the homeless are rounded up and forced into 13th admendment except sleavery
I'm sick of the death of the american dream, im sick of every idiot adult in my life turning a blind eye to this bullshit, and refusing to aknowledge it because it makes them sad, im stick of being powerless to do anything about it
I’m glad I got used to working by that age but it basically told me that’s what I was to do for the rest of my life untill I got out of high school and realized education plays a big part in income now I’m trying to catch up without going to school and it’s almost disheartening to think of how limiting that belief was but as long as you keep pushing
Thx for the info. It's not like our government is going to publicly tell us about our laws changing.
Using the word gift and handle in the same sentence is so wild, cause the sentence is actively contradicting itself. A gift isn’t something you handle. That implies there are negatives about this “gift”. And a core part of the definition of a gift is literally that it is a positive.
The old folks talking about working when they were young... a paper route is not the same as factory work. I worked at 14 in an ice cream shop. I worked 12 hours a week. I think I got $1.35 an hour. They aren't the same. Make companies pay a LIVING WAGE!
Also in project 2025, they want to get rid of overtime pay.
"A Case against Child Labor Prohibitions" sounds like the modern version of "A Modest Proposal"
Except Swift was being satirical when he wrote 'A Modest Proposal' & the authors of crap calling for ending child labor prohibitions are being 'serious'.
There is no labor shortage, no one wants to or can work for these prices. Increase pay
There's is no threat of organised worker strikes or communist/socialist states, so they have nothing forcing them to increase pay, it will not happen, they will not do it, its litteraly the last thing they will do.
sadly that would raise good prices
@@MasterMadLad no that would cut out share holder profits or executive compensation
My grandpa started working on construction sites at age 15 and until retirement. Saw the X-rays, didn't know knee joints could become this flat.
On one hand families need every dollar they can get. On the other they shouldn't need to rely on children for those dollars.
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Calling 13 to 17 year olds "young adults" is omega deranged when nearly every person doesn't develop brain functionalities enough to be fully functional in society until you're 25 or higher (or never in cases with severe mental health issues).
Yeah, and there's a huge difference between 13 and 17 in a child's develompment, physically, mentally and cognitively. They can't and shouldn't be treated as a uniform group.
sadly they dont care, trust me been told to my face enough times that my Autism spectrum diagnsis isnt an excuse and the doctors are quacks there isa growinbg segment of those with money and power that would wipe out all mental health services and worse others who think those with severe special needs should just be put down, and theyre growing more and more comfortable saying that shit where it can be heard and backtracking to save face. your a body to work the machine that keeps them on top, or your a corpse to alot of these rich old assholes
Stop repeating this absolute crap. It's the new "You only use 10% of your brain."
The brain is way more complicated than that and nobody has ever said that you aren't "fully functional" in society until you're 25 because that idea is just stupid. There are countless 18-25 year olds with full time jobs, who live on their own, and who are "fully functional".
@@nolifenerdwhohasnevergotten if they can work they can vote. Shouldn’t be a problem since the brain is so complicated, right?
Strongly disagree. Nature marked adulthood with fertility. Modern society oppresses people long past reaching adulthood.
The capacity to have children or not is not an opinion. Creatures, not just humans, as well as plants are adults once they reach the amount of maturity to mate and have offspring.
Your opinion doesn't match the real truth. You are delusional and support spreading your delusions.
Anyone calling 14 year olds "young adults" needs to be put on a list.
Outside of a legal framework, how do you define an adult?
@@falcongamer58 bro what the fuck
@@whitegorilla1368?
@@whitegorilla1368 hm?
falcongamer58
You can't.
From a biological perspective (science here), all mammals, including humans, go through two (2) life stages after birth:
Childhood (infantile phase) and adult.
What separates the two?
Puberty. That implies that the so called teenage "phase" is really part of adulthood.
We humans are the only ones that created a false category of teenage hood in order to prolong the child hood phase, simply because we want to.
Kinda weird how only the "poor" children end up laboring, while the "rich" children end up going to hyper funded private schools. Curious dat.
Sounds like the difference is the parents. My parents put me and my siblings through private school. Both of us boys had jobs outside of the home by 15. The legal age at the time. We also had jobs before that, hay bailing and bucking, fixing fence line, working with heavy equipment. At 13. It wasn’t a big deal. We had cash to spend on things we wanted and learnt a lot of important lessons. Example, I didn’t want to be a farm hand……education was important to get a better job, and money is a nice thing to have.
The answer is to repair the clan family group. Notice I didn’t say “nuclear”. Larger family groups mean more stability and more layers of protection for kids. But that answer doesn’t get support from too many people that have been conditioned against it by living in the modern corporate world.
Yeah, children should not be working in a slaughterhouse. They should have jobs like selling / delivering newspapers, waitressing working at a summer camp selling ice cream
Or lemonade and cookies.
@@jkseraphim4 yes that is not working on a coal mine butcher shop meat plants or anything crazy like that.
I wrote an article in HS ('95) talking about the fact that the things we were learning in HS weren't going to really help us in the real world. All these stupid exams we pass and then forget about. I started working at 14, dropped out of HS at 16, then went back at 17 and dropped out again. Went for my GED, got it, and haven't used the damn thing till this day.😅😂
And people still try to deny that we aren’t entering another Great Depression?!
Did you watch the vid? Your comment belies that you watched. Flooding a country with migrants to exploit and use to suppress wages is not a "great depression" and now using children to do the same just shows it's greed and corruption.
i think you're thinking of the industrial revolution instead
We’re downgrading to the industrial age and becoming China 2.0
The appearance of child labor and sub-minimum wage laws are a labor law problem, not an economic problem
This all tracks back to the UN. They've been passing child labor for decades through out the world. That and using women as a tool to destabilize governments
If we want to stop child labor in the U.S I feel like the simplest way to do that is forcing every job wanting to make kids work is pay them the same amount as everyone else. It bothers me and confuses me that because of age and as well gender can let employers pay you less than the minimum wage the state requires. Screw things like minimum hours needed to work that's just a loop hole to screw over kids.
Give it a few years. Consumer spending will drop like a rock when the only workers hired are children.
it's cute that people still think there are solutions to "fix" the intended outcomes of capitalism.
It's like talking about how to make a weapon unalive the fewest number of lives possible, while fully intending to use that weapon to unalive as many lives as possible.
I'm very tired of playing word games with the banbots
@@Demopans5990that doesn't matter to corporations. They only need higher profits this quarter.
Or, you know, closing the border and stop advertising the country as a sanctuary state so we stop child trafficking? This isn't the locals sending their kids to factories it's corporations exploiting illegal migrants.
@@rampaginwalrusDid you just write a comment saying that we can't vote our way out of this while also being anti-gun?
The hyper libertarian types never factor in that these jobs are designed like abusive relationships. The kids are exploited for their obedience to authority and made to think it's immoral to quit or ask for more
I wouldn't call them hyper libertarian. Child workers have been advocated for by nearly every part of the political spectrum at some point or another. This one is currently caused by neoliberal/neoconservative groups who are funded by multi billion dollar companies who want cheap labor.
I do think that is gonna go well.
Don’t dare give them an out like “they never factor it in,” they know exactly what the deal is and they’re perfectly happy as long as they have someone lower on the pecking order.
It's very easy to exploit children. They don't know their rights, they don't have the emotional maturity to recognize when they are being exploited, and they don't have the knowledge on how to properly push back against such exploitation.
In studies where companies have been found guilty of wage theft, it has been shown that the younger the workforce is, the egregious the instances of wage theft was. In places with more mature workforces, you would see cases where workers was not paid the overtime they deserved as the company attempted to skirt around regulations for certain groups -- typically in situations where people needed to be on-call or where longer work hours were necessary to meet deadlines.
However, in places with younger workforces, such as fast food and retail, wage theft was occurring across the board for ALL employees, many of whom had no idea that they were being stolen from until an older, more experienced individual was hired who was both knowledgeable enough to recognize the exploitation and strong enough to push back against the practice.
So of course these businesses want child workers; they know they can push them around, and the children won't talk back.
Stop working for shit. Teach your kids to stand up for themselves. Stop worshipping weakness.
That photo op with Sarah Huckleberry Saunders with the kids, legalizing child labor will always be funny
I'm actually of the opinion that 13 as a minimum age is fine, if kids WANT to make money at that age, let them
The problem is that many parents don't make enough money and have to rely on THEIR CHILDS INCOME
Child labor should always be optional, as a young teen I always wanted a job because having money at that age is very much appreciated
It should never get to a point where 2 working adults don't make enough to fully cover their child and that child HAS to work
The parent also shouldn't be allowed to just take the money whenever they want. Seen way too many of those cases where a kid was robbed of thousands purely because they were under 18
Here in Germany, we have also the issue of a tight labor market.
But certain industries and sectors in our economy are screaming louder for employees then others.
Usually those with poor working conditions and bad sallery.
I think a lot of people in western societies are tired of being exploited and go into more profitable jobs. Using the resulting advantage to thier favor.
In the Netherlands we have had lower minimum wages for kids for a long time now and it never ceases to baffle me. It is crazy to me that employers are allowed to pay a 15 year old 4 euro per hour for time that could be spent on education and social development. Or doing something good for society like volunteering.
No wonder people are getting dumber and more selfish.
Worst part is that these dumb and selfish people will just keep voting for the neoliberals or fascists that profit from ignorance.
Abolish national minimum wage
Ahh thank you. I can never get my thoughts together for comments, but this was essentially floating around in my head.
Because, yeah, who needs an educated, mature population🙄? Ppl really need to get their heads out of their behinds.
@@moniques1377 ok pardo
Our votes have never mattered. Please see this. The sooner we see we are enslaved the sooner we can be free. Voting lesser evils only affects you morally and spiritually as it is a pledge of support. That is why they have us vote. They do need our approval. PLEASE stop giving it to them.
And it also harms adults. Employers would rather hire a 16 year old without experience, than a 22 year old with. It's disgustingly greedy
I find it hilarious hearing about a labor shortage when I am trying to get into a union electrical apprenticeships and and theres 150 -200 people at the union halls on application day. Only about 50 people get in per year. Tried for years and its always this bad getting in.
The ‘labor shortage’ is all corporate propaganda. They make ghost jobs and understaff so they can point at their ghost jobs and understaffed locations and demand the government make things easier for them.
Remember minimum wage back in the 1960s was 1.25$ people working for minimum generally were paid in coins. Rarely small bills. 90% silver quarters adjusted for inflation means minimum wage federally for most people was 58$/hr adjusted for inflation or approximately 129600 dollars per year in todays money.
I've worked since I was 14, which happened to be in Va (ages 14-18) and I was never paid below minimum wage. Just because companies can pay sub-optimal doesn't mean kids have to get a job there.
Big issue I'm wondering about with the home lives of the kids who end up in these places- how are they getting to & from work if they're too young to even legally get a drivers' license?
So that's why companies don't want to hire. They'd rather force children to work than to ever take adults because children are more exploitable. It's actually fucking evil, like a whole new level of evil.
This is the Devil’s world, so they will eat their privileges till God’s judgement.
People who try to blur the lines between children and adults are akin to child molestors.
Thank you Steve for drawing that parallel.
“They’re not children They’re young adults”
I can feel my MIPs boiling in my blood at that statement
_The children yearn for the mines..._
Leaving comment here for the algorithm. There’s a cheap labor shortage because it’s not a living wage shortage, this is legalized slavery caused by the people who benefited from slavery.
our country is going backwards, and the people seem to be okay with it. In fact there's a lot of labor violations going on and literally nobody is doing anything about it.
It’s going backwards because the liberal world that had its seeds planted in 1901 with Theodore Roosevelt and came to fruition with FDR and reached its apex under Clinton is dying.
It’s dying for a multitude of factors but it is dying.
Expect things that were hallmarks of 20th century liberal agenda to be gradually pushed back and dismantled over the course of the 21st century.
No, many of us noticed. We just have a legislative body that is unresponsive to the needs of the majority of the population.
I don't usually leave comments but I wanted to thank you for this video and also boost it!
Yes, I have issues, we all do. How much of that is related to me mowing lawns at 10? Helping my parents with chores as early as I can recall, or getting my first real job at 13 picking grapes? Later, I worked at 14 in a restaurant. I now own a restaurant. And yes I did technically drop out of high school. My work ethic is strong.
I do believe it is very important for kids to get jobs. But with substantial protections. I've hired so many neighborhood kids and now some of their kids are looking for jobs. I think I've personally corrected the path heading towards prison towards education and home ownership ownership for a number of individuals. It is very rewarding to earn legitimate money at the 13-17 year old age range. In my state though, they need to meet a minimum Gpa and can only work a few short shifts a week. But for a restaurant, that is a perfect match. Judging by how many former employees bring in their families, it must have been a positive experience for them.
FBI needs to check that man's electronics, talking abou5 young adults.....hmmmm
Did you somehow miss that he was saying it in reference to business and that his goal is to allow kids to work? Somehow, you missed the entire point of the video.
@@old-slow-and-tired whooosh
It’s a mystery how some politicians have extremely line pockets while doing almost nothing. And how they seem to always sponsor the bills that makes life’s worse for everyone who’s not rich.
Kids have no representation in a democracy.
*the people have no representation in a democracy
I can't say the company I work for, but it is a fortune 500 company. I am an industrial ammonia systems operator and mechanic.
We contract out the facility cleaning staff because of how enormous the factory is and because we are required to have nightly sanitation of all machines and equipment related to manufacturing and production.
The cleaning company was bringing in children as young as 13 to clean within an industrial factory before they got busted by the government.
Allowing young adults to work and forcing them to work are two seperate issues. The American education system is bad and getting worse. Who are you to say a teenager cannot get a better education from an employer than they get get from an increasing sub par public education system?
Forced Child Labour is unacceptable plus unsafe work places and kids shouldn’t be anywhere near a slaughter house. Kids need to be given time for themselves but with the way the world going earlier you start making money the better. Plus you’d have to do lots of safeguarding and safety protocols to make sure ain’t any workers that are nounces
The educational system would need a major overhaul to be able to actually teach kids life skills. Other than reading and basic math it's a way to take up the kids' time for the day to allow the parents to go to work, and to meter the kids out into the work force in a regulated way so they don't take up all the jobs with their lower cost of labor. Maybe montessori style school can actually prepare people for life, but not the highly politicized public system. It's far too wrapped up in crappy laws by now.
Schools are places of indoctrination not education.
i agree with you. You can have training programs in schools with corporate help. They can train them and make them simulate what they would do in real life. so Zero danger. They both can get skilled workers, yet im sure they still wanna pay them nothing.
i have been raging about this since it passed in my state. kids can literally work in the mines and with heavy machinery now, man. when i was a teenager (and i'm only 21) if you're under 16, you couldn't work remotely dangerous jobs and couldn't work past 7pm during the school year. at a restaurant i worked at when i was 16, the under 16 kids weren't allowed to go in the freezer or work in the kitchen.
i work at the DMV, and this year my state passed a "special minor restricted driver's license" for 14 year olds, literal children, to be able to drive to school, work, home, and a secondary address within a 20 mile radius, basically giving kids free reign to drive without an adult. before that, we had the school permit which was just home to school to home. they also passed a law that kids can work to 10pm during the school year.
There are several fast food places near us that absolutely have children under the age of 14 working at them. You don't expect a lot from Virginia but obviously Virginia really wants to go back to it's highly problematic roots
The south will rise again brother! 😂
Fellow Virginia resident here and based on the massive changes I've seen around me the past few years as well as what I personally experienced growing up I can safely say things are far more screwed than people realize. The sheer amount of people that choose to be oblivious to what is materializing around them is absolutely staggering, and it is 100% them choosing. I understand the old saying ignorance is bliss but willful ignorance is unacceptable.
@@invisimine I live in the southwest part of Virginia. I have a wonderful view of our second tallest mountain from my front porch. You're welcome to come by and hangout. You choose to see what others refuse so I think that just made us best friends......like in the movie Stepbrothers lol.
How do the thoughtless citizens of our country allow even this past themselves? How could this not enrage anyone in a first world country?
Americans are known to stay SILENT AND COMPLICIT!!!!
NEVER EVER FORGET IRAQ!!! 💔
Thank you for accurately explaining the tip wage. I regularly argue with wait staff that are convinced they they only make $2/hr if they don't make tips. it's sad they are lied to so much they don't even read the labor poster in the business that explains their rights and even start yelling at me saying I don't know what I'm talking about till I throw the DOL website at them
Every single time people say there's a labor shortage in an industry, jobs all of a sudden become hard to find in that same industry. So Im inclined to believe that it's never true
Jesus Christ why history just keep making circles why we can't as a humanity progress and stayed progess without coming back to square back.
well lets start with the fact that rich eurocentrics are hell bent on reestablishing overt feudalism and are currently the biggest investors in perpetuating european monarchy... perhaps those benefitting the most from this behavior are the ones orchestrating it? dont think these kinds of things just happen on coincidence. you dont accidentally receive the lions share of profits extracted from the human species in this kind of economic organization...
Because then they'd call you are a degenerate.
Because it is a balance of interests and values. We never extinguished people who seek to exploit other humans. They are finding new rhetorical outlets to gain consensus and today work is the new religion, in America at least.
@@pif5023 Piggy backing on this; humanity has been ruled by sociopaths since the beginning. There are always those who don't work with the same general guidelines that others do, for whom no amount of gain will be enough and no price is too big to pay- so long as they aren't paying it. But for the majority of us who don't think like that, we assume others think like we do, and then that gets used against us.
We can write all the laws we want, with good intentions and fair checks and balances, but with absolutely no caveats, inevitably people with resources and the will to do so will dismantle or work around those efforts. Humanity is a beautiful tragedy.
Humans do not fundamentally change, so the same desires that drove us to make the world hell before continue trying to make it hell now.
Oh believe me I noticed when this started, I just didn't and still don't know how to stop it. It started briefly after the recovery from the pandemic when companies were desperate for workers. If I remember correctly it was due to corrupt politicians wanting to pass a bill that would allow child labor again, but in certain States.
I think my jobs as a youth were beneficial, but only because one was with my dad as an electrician - learning the trade and beholden to no schedule, just show up when I can help (paid well above minimum wage), and the other was lifeguarding during school breaks. I wasn't distracted from school in this regard and felt I was learning while working anyways. I suppose I support apprenticeship then.
While dangerous jobs are definitely not for kids. My entire extended family made a living and made it out of poverty by working since we were 8 years of age. This has made us some pretty capable and hardworking adults.
Labor shortages are real in my world. I am a handyman and I could sure use subminmum wage to train youth to become a minimum wage earner.
The more concerning labor issue is hardworking, life appreciating, and productive babyboomers leaving the workforce while the youth knows how to do very little outside of moving fingers.
I fully support kids getting odd jobs at a young age, just to start to learn the concept of earning and spending their own money, and giving them a bit of responsibility on a smaller scale. But like you say, I'm thinking child and pet sitting, basic garden tasks, paper boy, maybe a bit of retail at absolute most, and only for a few hours here and there. But kids absolutely should not be put into areas like manufacturing and factory work, and/or long term employment. This is just another push to expoit the poor and woking class, becuase you can bet you won't be seeing any billionaiires kids scrubbing the floors of factories at 13 years old.