Nice workflow, i prefer to mix and add more fx later in the daw so I tend to export every single tracks and then mix it inside the daw. I connect via USB and send clock from the daw to the deluge, then I mute all the tracks except one and play/rec form the daw and record the audio output. It work quite well but I would love an automatic export!
100% what you said is this is the best workflow you can take to make a finished track on the Deluge. I mainly do it this way to save time and capture the performance as it's happening. Honestly, a lack of automatic export is really what's holding me back from doing this with every performance. Hopefully it is included with a future update. I really want to get an external effects unit (something like an empress Zoia maybe) and try setting up the same chain on that. Hopefully that way I could get the same results while staying DAWless with the Deluge.
This is great! I do the exact same thing with processing the Deluge, and our signal chains are eerily similar! Thanks for sharing, I learned a few things about the Deluge from this video, too!
Thanks for the video! This is exactly the same workflow I've got with the Deluge as well. I usually record a mix into ableton then try my best to compress, eq, and maximize levels of the track. Thanks for walking through it, I learned a lot of tips I'll use next time. There's a nice Discord group for the Deluge too where we all share tips and tricks with each other if you're interested in joining!
Hi, I must say I was chocked to see that you only had 60 subscribers?! This tutorial was pure quality! I got my deluge a couple of months ago and I love it. I sequence my hardwaresynths with Keystep pro and then live loop them in to separate tracks on the delgue. Works really well. Love this workflow. Until it’s time to start arranging the song.. I usually have like 10-12 tracks. Until now I’ve just recorded a stereotrack to my DAW from song view, unmuting and mixing everything manually. This is kinda messy and it feels like I’m just looking down in a ocean of colored buttons. I often mute/unmute the wrong track and have to redo everything. I tried the arranger view but was not convinced. When I started watching this video and saw your way around the deluge I was hoping for a chapter covering the arranger view. I would love to see a tutorial on that or just have some tips 😊
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I don't often upload to this channel as my art channel seems to be a lot more popular. Hoping to change that with some more Deluge vids though. I'm hoping to do a video on complex drum patterns next. Arranging on the Deluge kind of caught me off guard to be honest. It doesn't exactly work the way I thought it would and it took some getting used to. My workflow for it so far has been to live record a performance from song view into arranger view and then go in and edit the arrangement. It's a lot of starting and stopping, but you can make unique variations which is kind of cool. I might do a video on that in the future once I'm a bit more comfortable with it.
I have not got my Deluge yet but these tips are pretty cool :) I use Logic Pro and you can get pretty good results with just EQ and Compression, it would sound a lot better if they were separate tracks, but you did a really good job of identifying the muddy bits. Synths are always really hard to EQ as they have a lot of harmonic content, I find using baby audio smooth operator or Soothe 2 works wonders!
Thanks so much! I have to admit, this video's in need of a fresh coat of paint, and I'll be re-doing it in some of my upcoming Deluge vids. Hopefully the new version will be an improvement on this one.
Amazing content! Thank you for putting the time and effort to show your process. As a dawless enthusiast and deluge owner this video is just perfect ^^ Cheers
Thanks heaps! Yeah, I'm really loving the Deluge too. It's not perfect, but that said, nothing else comes close (for me at least). Glad you liked the video :)
Wow. Thank you for putting this together. Really really good. It was great to see your workflow. My preconception was that you were going to bring in each clip and work them. As I'm fairly new to music production myself I hadn't considered just mixing the entire track in an audio pipeline. So thanks for demonstrating that. I will take that approach on my next track. Like you, I don't want to step into the DAW too much. I find it way too distracting 😂 Look forward to future videos.
No problem at all! :) I will have to try the other workflow of exporting stems in the future, but I don't have time for that lol. I hope that they add an "export stems" feature one day. For now, I'm glad to hear this was able to help you :)
Really happy to hear that. The art community on my other channel is always so nice, but I've seen the music community can sometimes be a little more brutal. It's good to see this was received well. :)
It's funny, a lot of people like this video, but I really hate the end result. I think I recorded the whole thing in mono and mixed it that way, and it might have just been the wrong way to go about it. Either way, I'm going to be redoing this method when I get up to the workflow section of The Deluge Video Manual. So hopefully I'll get it right by then.
Not at all my friend,I think it's a great way you demonstrated to do as much mixing on the deluge before going to Ableton...I myself trying to it that way, I'm running my deluge through an SSL six and H9 pedal hoping to get good results,and then a polish in Ableton.Ive had deluge for a couple years but mainly used it for sequencing external gear but you're videos are superb and I'm starting to dive into it a bit more, keep up the great work 👌👍🎶
@@deanlopez1978 that's awesome to hear man! I've been experimenting with recreating this exact same effects chain but using an Empress Zoia pedal to achieve the same result. Still needs a bit more time in the oven, but it's a great way to do the whole thing completely DAWLESS. You can even resample the processed audio back into the Delly then, and have a fully completed WAV file ready to go. So many possibilities with this little box!
@@RSKT_music great stuff pal 👌,it truly is an amazing machine, just to sit down and have a groove going in minutes is unique.. I'll be watching your new videos with great interest, thanks for your time and effort 👌👍
Really nice approach. I hope they will add individual track render at some point. Although they have already added so many features that it almost feels like wrong to say that.
Thanks! I'm going to completely redo this video soon. I hate the way the audio for this one turned out and I know I can give a better example. Individual track render is the one feature I'm holding out for to be honest. Hope they add it one day.
I've got no good answer for you, you could do it either way really. To be honest with you, i really dislike this video now. I mean, the basic setup is good and my process hasn't changed much, but I had a lot of issues recording the audio from Ableton and I think the end result in the video sounds like crap. Either way, I've left it up because a lot of people seemed to find it useful. I'm working on a Deluge Video Manual at the moment and I'm hoping to get a chance to take another look at this workflow in one of those videos, so hopefully this gets replaced someday :)
Hey EZBOT! Good to see you here man, I'm a big fan. Yeah this vids pretty old and I realise that now, but thanks for clearing this up for anyone else who view this.
Thanks! No reason, I record all of my stuff in stereo tracks, couldn't tell you why I did it this way in the past. I still have to redo this video someday, I really hate the way the audio sounds in it and I've got much better equipment to record it properly now.
the first bit on the deluge is really practicle as a beginner, mixing volumes, adjusting eq and pan to avoid clashing sounds, etc. But when you get to ableton, I either can't hear a difference, or sometimes prefer the before? This isn't just you, I get this with a lot of mixing stuff I see... It's just not the kind of thing you can show someone it seems.
Nah, you're absolutely right. I hate this video and wish I never made it. I had a lot of trouble screen recording Ableton and the end result is rubbish and doesn't sound much different. I'm filming a Deluge Workflow Guide series right now, and I'll be remaking this video with a lot better quality, so stay on the lookout for that sometime next year. :)
@@RSKT_music oh cool. I don't own a deluge, but still a lot applies to other systems, so I'm interested to see that. Another thing I think is interesting; imagine if one of your melodic parts was an octave lower. You probably wouldn't just EQ it, but transpose it. At some point it's hard to seperate mixing from just the overall composition of the track. Maybe there's someway of training the intuition that you build, but otherwise it's sorta hard for me not to see mastering as sorta hand wavey. At least at my level of experience, when I can't really make a decent track in the first place lol.
@@waporwave5066 hmm, maybe I need to go a bit deeper in the next mixing video then. There's definitely a rhyme and reason to all of it, and it can make a drastic difference! Stay tuned! I'll beef that episode up a bit :)
Subscribed. Excellent. I'm still waiting for mine in the mail. I don't get why your column of pads on the right stay solid blue when you were muting and unmutting. But anyway, great job!
Thanks so much! Honestly, I'm strongly considering redoing this video, because the end result just sounds like crap and isn't a good example of what I was trying to demonstrate (I think the mono output is a contributing factor there). Still, I'm glad a lot of people have found it useful. Also, the pads far right are blue because they all belong to the "blue group". However, the pads to the left of those are actually green! They just look blue because my colour correction skills where shit when I made this video haha. I've gotten a lot better since then. Cheers for tuning in! You're gonna love this thing when it arrives :)
what a fantastic video, really well done, I am migrating from iOS to a dawlees setup and based on your vid I am more and more convinced to go with the deluge. You´d mentioned that you checked other gear, what were your options and why you finally decided for the deludge?
Thanks so much! I've always wanted to incorporate my iPad more into my production setup, but haven't found something that quite clicked for me just yet. As for other gear - There are so many other great grooveboxes out there, and it's a tough choice. Each has their pros and cons (including the deluge). I like the novely of the op1, but I don't think I would like using it with some of its limitations. The circuit is awesome, but I don't like the track limit and how they moved sampling to the rhythm. Electron boxes are so great, but each one seems to have a feature I want that the others don't. I think this is mainly due to their business model, but they're crazy expensive here is Aus, so I gave them a miss. I even like the little Roland groovebox, but the lack of sidechaining is just weird to me. I mean, there's ways to fake it, but I don't want to be thinking about that when trying to build up a track. I'm not into bigger grooveboxes like akai force or anything like that. I want something portable. The deluge seems to tick a lot of boxes where other grooveboxes fall flat, which is really great. That said, some more ins/outs, an effect loop, and stem export are features I really wish it supported. I'm definitely still happy with it though and it makes me take a different approach to making music than I'm used to.
@@RSKT_music thanks for the fantasticly detailed answer, your generosity has no limits . super fan of your content here. I was evaluating the OP-1 because its unique characteristics, but I think is somehow limited for what I want to achieve. Hopefully the guys in Synthstrom will move forward with this topic of stem export for example and make the deluge just being better year by year. I will go for it definitively. thanks to your deep videos I saw the huge potential it has. Thanks a lot and keep walking, your are passionate and your content speaks loud. here Alexi from Colombia in South America.
Side chain is triggered by the first kick sample you use. The deluge will even autodetect any kick sample you import for the first time. With the kick selected, you can press kick > sidechain, and you'll get a value of 0-50 (50 is max). This way, you can tell the deluge which sample you want to trigger the sidechain. You can have a single source, or multiple sources. There's a few more options in the same row for the attack and decay, so you can really dial it in. Hope that helps in some way :)
Nice video and tips , but it makes more evident how the Deluge alone is not suitable for live use. The lack of a master compressor and even eq on the master bus makes impossible to use it alone in a live situation. This is not an issue for studio use, where you can export the mixdown and tweak it using a DAW. But if you want to play the Deluge live on a gig , you will definitely need more things after it to make it sound decent on a PA.
I think there are certain use cases where you'd get away with it, but on the whole, I have to agree. You'd need to build these effects on something like a Zoia to play live. Man. It's hard. As a standalone groovebox, I love this thing. I love what the company does and their constant updates. But there are some things that just make me scratch my head. Like with this new update for example. Do we really need Wavetable and MPE support when we still haven't got access to the basics (like stem export, and maybe a basic compressor)? That said though, I can't knock it too much. This thing ticked more boxes than any other device when I was looking for a groovebox that suits me, and it gets a lot right. I guess everyone has different use cases for it.
@@RSKT_music I also love the Deluge, but hate somethings on it. It's a love and hate affair, just like i had of my Octatrack before switching to the Deluge (and ending up keeping the Octatrack as fx / compressor). In the end of the day there is no perfect gear, it's all about to find out what works best for you
I've played my Deluge in a live setting, and it sounded awesome. No running it through anything. Just made sure to balance the sound of everything before I played live.
Definately have, and I do that a lot in Ableton. But with this, I find a 2 band EQ is what I need. I don't always want to cut the highs or lows out that much, I just wanna turn the down a little bit with the EQ. Still use LP and HP filters a lot tho.
No worries! Definately panning is the way to go. I didn't realise until after I uploaded, but this whole video is in mono :( It's because of the way I recorded the sound of what was going on in Ableton at the time of screen recording. Going to have to find a better way next time.
Honestly, even using the panning and eq build into the deluge will help a fair bit. You should give it a go! All my stuff (even in a DAW) used to sound super muddy. But changing the volume, panning, eq, compression, and saturation of different elements can help to make a pretty clean mix. I only wish I recorded this video differently, cause watching it back it sounds horrible lol
@@RSKT_music I shall. If I had a good camera maybe I’d make a video trying it out for Slappy’s Happy which am actually pretty jazzed about but which - if you wanted to waste a few mins if your life is on my channel - is suffering from this very ordeal. Cheers!
@@Hysteric_Subjects just watched it and subbed. Loved that track dude. Gives me Death Grips vibes. I wouldn't worry about a decent camera. The old saying goes something like "if your video quality sucks but your audio doesn't, people will still watch. If your audio quality sucks though, you've lost em." I feel like the footage matched your glitchy asthetic. Very cool :)
Nice workflow, i prefer to mix and add more fx later in the daw so I tend to export every single tracks and then mix it inside the daw. I connect via USB and send clock from the daw to the deluge, then I mute all the tracks except one and play/rec form the daw and record the audio output. It work quite well but I would love an automatic export!
100% what you said is this is the best workflow you can take to make a finished track on the Deluge. I mainly do it this way to save time and capture the performance as it's happening. Honestly, a lack of automatic export is really what's holding me back from doing this with every performance. Hopefully it is included with a future update.
I really want to get an external effects unit (something like an empress Zoia maybe) and try setting up the same chain on that. Hopefully that way I could get the same results while staying DAWless with the Deluge.
@@RSKT_music you can do all the mastering chain with an iPad and a small audio I/o
@@AndreVibrations True! Guess I'm aiming to do it all without a computer
Amazed how fast you learnt the Deluge. I just got one this week and will be going through my slow-pace learning curve.
Haha still got a lot to learn to be honest, but getting the basics down was kind of intuitive coming from Ableton, so I guess I had a leg up.
This is great! I do the exact same thing with processing the Deluge, and our signal chains are eerily similar! Thanks for sharing, I learned a few things about the Deluge from this video, too!
Thanks so much! Glad you got something out of this :)
Thanks for the video! This is exactly the same workflow I've got with the Deluge as well. I usually record a mix into ableton then try my best to compress, eq, and maximize levels of the track. Thanks for walking through it, I learned a lot of tips I'll use next time. There's a nice Discord group for the Deluge too where we all share tips and tricks with each other if you're interested in joining!
No worries! Sure, I'd love to join! I saw one shared on the forum a while back but the link was broken. How do I find it?
@@RSKT_music discord.gg/N87mcFkD here ya go!
Hi, I must say I was chocked to see that you only had 60 subscribers?! This tutorial was pure quality! I got my deluge a couple of months ago and I love it. I sequence my hardwaresynths with Keystep pro and then live loop them in to separate tracks on the delgue. Works really well. Love this workflow. Until it’s time to start arranging the song..
I usually have like 10-12 tracks. Until now I’ve just recorded a stereotrack to my DAW from song view, unmuting and mixing everything manually. This is kinda messy and it feels like I’m just looking down in a ocean of colored buttons. I often mute/unmute the wrong track and have to redo everything. I tried the arranger view but was not convinced.
When I started watching this video and saw your way around the deluge I was hoping for a chapter covering the arranger view. I would love to see a tutorial on that or just have some tips 😊
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I don't often upload to this channel as my art channel seems to be a lot more popular. Hoping to change that with some more Deluge vids though. I'm hoping to do a video on complex drum patterns next.
Arranging on the Deluge kind of caught me off guard to be honest. It doesn't exactly work the way I thought it would and it took some getting used to. My workflow for it so far has been to live record a performance from song view into arranger view and then go in and edit the arrangement. It's a lot of starting and stopping, but you can make unique variations which is kind of cool.
I might do a video on that in the future once I'm a bit more comfortable with it.
I have not got my Deluge yet but these tips are pretty cool :)
I use Logic Pro and you can get pretty good results with just EQ and Compression, it would sound a lot better if they were separate tracks, but you did a really good job of identifying the muddy bits.
Synths are always really hard to EQ as they have a lot of harmonic content, I find using baby audio smooth operator or Soothe 2 works wonders!
Thanks so much! I have to admit, this video's in need of a fresh coat of paint, and I'll be re-doing it in some of my upcoming Deluge vids. Hopefully the new version will be an improvement on this one.
Very very very well done. Nice tutorial. Definitely on my playlist of must-watch Deluge tutorials
Thanks so much! Really glad you liked it :)
Amazing content! Thank you for putting the time and effort to show your process. As a dawless enthusiast and deluge owner this video is just perfect ^^
Cheers
Thanks heaps! Yeah, I'm really loving the Deluge too. It's not perfect, but that said, nothing else comes close (for me at least). Glad you liked the video :)
Excellent and surprising Vid, man.
Thanks so much :)
Wow. Thank you for putting this together. Really really good.
It was great to see your workflow. My preconception was that you were going to bring in each clip and work them. As I'm fairly new to music production myself I hadn't considered just mixing the entire track in an audio pipeline.
So thanks for demonstrating that. I will take that approach on my next track.
Like you, I don't want to step into the DAW too much. I find it way too distracting 😂
Look forward to future videos.
No problem at all! :) I will have to try the other workflow of exporting stems in the future, but I don't have time for that lol. I hope that they add an "export stems" feature one day. For now, I'm glad to hear this was able to help you :)
Well done for a first music tutorial! Keep up the good deluging!
Really happy to hear that. The art community on my other channel is always so nice, but I've seen the music community can sometimes be a little more brutal. It's good to see this was received well. :)
4 or 5 weeks, you learned fast lol it took me a year to realize the main feature was the arranger mode
Haha, DW. Still got a lot to learn. Haven't even tried out the looper yet and it's one of the main reasons I got this thing.
took me 10 minutes
Great video 👌
It's funny, a lot of people like this video, but I really hate the end result. I think I recorded the whole thing in mono and mixed it that way, and it might have just been the wrong way to go about it. Either way, I'm going to be redoing this method when I get up to the workflow section of The Deluge Video Manual. So hopefully I'll get it right by then.
Not at all my friend,I think it's a great way you demonstrated to do as much mixing on the deluge before going to Ableton...I myself trying to it that way, I'm running my deluge through an SSL six and H9 pedal hoping to get good results,and then a polish in Ableton.Ive had deluge for a couple years but mainly used it for sequencing external gear but you're videos are superb and I'm starting to dive into it a bit more, keep up the great work 👌👍🎶
@@deanlopez1978 that's awesome to hear man! I've been experimenting with recreating this exact same effects chain but using an Empress Zoia pedal to achieve the same result. Still needs a bit more time in the oven, but it's a great way to do the whole thing completely DAWLESS. You can even resample the processed audio back into the Delly then, and have a fully completed WAV file ready to go. So many possibilities with this little box!
@@RSKT_music great stuff pal 👌,it truly is an amazing machine, just to sit down and have a groove going in minutes is unique.. I'll be watching your new videos with great interest, thanks for your time and effort 👌👍
@@deanlopez1978 No problem at all! :)
Really nice approach. I hope they will add individual track render at some point. Although they have already added so many features that it almost feels like wrong to say that.
Thanks! I'm going to completely redo this video soon. I hate the way the audio for this one turned out and I know I can give a better example. Individual track render is the one feature I'm holding out for to be honest. Hope they add it one day.
Very good tuto for the D ⚡
Thx you
No worries! Thanks for watching :)
Why two separate mono tracks in Ableton? Why not a single stereo track?
I've got no good answer for you, you could do it either way really. To be honest with you, i really dislike this video now. I mean, the basic setup is good and my process hasn't changed much, but I had a lot of issues recording the audio from Ableton and I think the end result in the video sounds like crap.
Either way, I've left it up because a lot of people seemed to find it useful. I'm working on a Deluge Video Manual at the moment and I'm hoping to get a chance to take another look at this workflow in one of those videos, so hopefully this gets replaced someday :)
@@RSKT_music You've got phasing issues once it got to Ableton. That's the sound you don't like.
Hey EZBOT! Good to see you here man, I'm a big fan. Yeah this vids pretty old and I realise that now, but thanks for clearing this up for anyone else who view this.
@@RSKT_music Thanks! Yeah makes sense you'd have solved that by now. Nice work!
Thank you, this was a really great tutorial!
No worries, really glad you liked it :)
Great video! was there a reason why you recorded each stereo channel individually, vs recording as a stereo track?
Thanks! No reason, I record all of my stuff in stereo tracks, couldn't tell you why I did it this way in the past. I still have to redo this video someday, I really hate the way the audio sounds in it and I've got much better equipment to record it properly now.
Great tips, thanks
No problem! :)
the first bit on the deluge is really practicle as a beginner, mixing volumes, adjusting eq and pan to avoid clashing sounds, etc. But when you get to ableton, I either can't hear a difference, or sometimes prefer the before? This isn't just you, I get this with a lot of mixing stuff I see... It's just not the kind of thing you can show someone it seems.
Nah, you're absolutely right. I hate this video and wish I never made it. I had a lot of trouble screen recording Ableton and the end result is rubbish and doesn't sound much different. I'm filming a Deluge Workflow Guide series right now, and I'll be remaking this video with a lot better quality, so stay on the lookout for that sometime next year. :)
@@RSKT_music oh cool. I don't own a deluge, but still a lot applies to other systems, so I'm interested to see that.
Another thing I think is interesting; imagine if one of your melodic parts was an octave lower. You probably wouldn't just EQ it, but transpose it. At some point it's hard to seperate mixing from just the overall composition of the track. Maybe there's someway of training the intuition that you build, but otherwise it's sorta hard for me not to see mastering as sorta hand wavey. At least at my level of experience, when I can't really make a decent track in the first place lol.
@@waporwave5066 hmm, maybe I need to go a bit deeper in the next mixing video then. There's definitely a rhyme and reason to all of it, and it can make a drastic difference! Stay tuned! I'll beef that episode up a bit :)
Appreciate you
Thanks, you too :)
Subscribed. Excellent.
I'm still waiting for mine in the mail.
I don't get why your column of pads on the right stay solid blue when you were muting and unmutting.
But anyway, great job!
Thanks so much! Honestly, I'm strongly considering redoing this video, because the end result just sounds like crap and isn't a good example of what I was trying to demonstrate (I think the mono output is a contributing factor there). Still, I'm glad a lot of people have found it useful.
Also, the pads far right are blue because they all belong to the "blue group". However, the pads to the left of those are actually green! They just look blue because my colour correction skills where shit when I made this video haha. I've gotten a lot better since then.
Cheers for tuning in! You're gonna love this thing when it arrives :)
what a fantastic video, really well done, I am migrating from iOS to a dawlees setup and based on your vid I am more and more convinced to go with the deluge. You´d mentioned that you checked other gear, what were your options and why you finally decided for the deludge?
Thanks so much! I've always wanted to incorporate my iPad more into my production setup, but haven't found something that quite clicked for me just yet.
As for other gear - There are so many other great grooveboxes out there, and it's a tough choice. Each has their pros and cons (including the deluge). I like the novely of the op1, but I don't think I would like using it with some of its limitations. The circuit is awesome, but I don't like the track limit and how they moved sampling to the rhythm.
Electron boxes are so great, but each one seems to have a feature I want that the others don't. I think this is mainly due to their business model, but they're crazy expensive here is Aus, so I gave them a miss.
I even like the little Roland groovebox, but the lack of sidechaining is just weird to me. I mean, there's ways to fake it, but I don't want to be thinking about that when trying to build up a track.
I'm not into bigger grooveboxes like akai force or anything like that. I want something portable.
The deluge seems to tick a lot of boxes where other grooveboxes fall flat, which is really great. That said, some more ins/outs, an effect loop, and stem export are features I really wish it supported. I'm definitely still happy with it though and it makes me take a different approach to making music than I'm used to.
@@RSKT_music thanks for the fantasticly detailed answer, your generosity has no limits . super fan of your content here. I was evaluating the OP-1 because its unique characteristics, but I think is somehow limited for what I want to achieve. Hopefully the guys in Synthstrom will move forward with this topic of stem export for example and make the deluge just being better year by year. I will go for it definitively. thanks to your deep videos I saw the huge potential it has. Thanks a lot and keep walking, your are passionate and your content speaks loud.
here Alexi from Colombia in South America.
@@alexiwiedemann hey thanks so much for the kind words there Alexi. I really appreciate it. Hopefully you get to pick up a deluge soon :)
Do you ever bake homemade bread? Do you ever RSKT for the biscuit?
Haha, there's a product in there somewhere ;)
How does the sidechain work on the deluge? Like how do you assign the sidechain to the kick?
Side chain is triggered by the first kick sample you use. The deluge will even autodetect any kick sample you import for the first time. With the kick selected, you can press kick > sidechain, and you'll get a value of 0-50 (50 is max). This way, you can tell the deluge which sample you want to trigger the sidechain. You can have a single source, or multiple sources. There's a few more options in the same row for the attack and decay, so you can really dial it in. Hope that helps in some way :)
Nice video and tips , but it makes more evident how the Deluge alone is not suitable for live use. The lack of a master compressor and even eq on the master bus makes impossible to use it alone in a live situation. This is not an issue for studio use, where you can export the mixdown and tweak it using a DAW. But if you want to play the Deluge live on a gig , you will definitely need more things after it to make it sound decent on a PA.
I think there are certain use cases where you'd get away with it, but on the whole, I have to agree. You'd need to build these effects on something like a Zoia to play live.
Man. It's hard. As a standalone groovebox, I love this thing. I love what the company does and their constant updates. But there are some things that just make me scratch my head. Like with this new update for example. Do we really need Wavetable and MPE support when we still haven't got access to the basics (like stem export, and maybe a basic compressor)?
That said though, I can't knock it too much. This thing ticked more boxes than any other device when I was looking for a groovebox that suits me, and it gets a lot right. I guess everyone has different use cases for it.
@@RSKT_music I also love the Deluge, but hate somethings on it. It's a love and hate affair, just like i had of my Octatrack before switching to the Deluge (and ending up keeping the Octatrack as fx / compressor). In the end of the day there is no perfect gear, it's all about to find out what works best for you
@@danield_sounds I get where you're coming from. Words of wisdom indeed!
I've played my Deluge in a live setting, and it sounded awesome. No running it through anything. Just made sure to balance the sound of everything before I played live.
@@RSKT_music since the new update just dropped, I'm gonna say yeah we needs the new sequencer, wave table synthesis and mpe support. It's awesome 😎
Curious if you're experimented with using the HPF/LPF instead of the EQs for cleaning up the mix?
Definately have, and I do that a lot in Ableton. But with this, I find a 2 band EQ is what I need. I don't always want to cut the highs or lows out that much, I just wanna turn the down a little bit with the EQ. Still use LP and HP filters a lot tho.
thank you 4 video, but if use panoraming on hi-hat may be perfect sound
No worries! Definately panning is the way to go. I didn't realise until after I uploaded, but this whole video is in mono :( It's because of the way I recorded the sound of what was going on in Ableton at the time of screen recording. Going to have to find a better way next time.
All my stuff out the Deluge sounds muddy and I know it's because I've never touched EQ in my life. LOL XD
Honestly, even using the panning and eq build into the deluge will help a fair bit. You should give it a go! All my stuff (even in a DAW) used to sound super muddy. But changing the volume, panning, eq, compression, and saturation of different elements can help to make a pretty clean mix. I only wish I recorded this video differently, cause watching it back it sounds horrible lol
@@RSKT_music I shall. If I had a good camera maybe I’d make a video trying it out for Slappy’s Happy which am actually pretty jazzed about but which - if you wanted to waste a few mins if your life is on my channel - is suffering from this very ordeal. Cheers!
@@Hysteric_Subjects just watched it and subbed. Loved that track dude. Gives me Death Grips vibes. I wouldn't worry about a decent camera. The old saying goes something like "if your video quality sucks but your audio doesn't, people will still watch. If your audio quality sucks though, you've lost em." I feel like the footage matched your glitchy asthetic. Very cool :)